Mind Over Matter: Mindset Development
Dreamers vs. Dream Killers ft. Qua of Hood Visionaries
What happens when you dare to think beyond your immediate surroundings and dream big? Qua, the creator of Hood Visionaries, joins us to share his inspiring journey from Crown Heights and Bed-Stuy to building a brand that motivates people to envision a better future. We'll explore how mental resilience, community, and collaboration are vital in overcoming the "dream killers" that often stand in the way of success.
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What happens when you dare to think beyond your immediate surroundings and dream big? Qua, the creator of Hood Visionaries, joins us to share his inspiring journey from Crown Heights and Bed-Stuy to building a brand that motivates people to envision a better future. We'll explore how mental resilience, community, and collaboration are vital in overcoming the "dream killers" that often stand in the way of success.
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Speaker 1:Thanks, Yo One two, one, two, one two.
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Speaker 2:How did I know?
Speaker 1:Ew, all right. Yeah, just like you know, don't think too hard, you know, just chilling, just a combo with a mic.
Speaker 2:Gotcha yeah, I do laugh a lot though. That's chilling Just a combo with a mic. Gotcha yeah, I do laugh a lot, though.
Speaker 1:That's good, that's good. We love laughter. All right, let me get my questions out, all right. Brr, brr, mop, mop, and it's, I don't. How do you pronounce your name properly, because I don't want to butcher it? Qua you say qua.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, Qua Qua All right. Three, two Yer Yer.
Speaker 2:Oh, is that my fault Yer?
Speaker 1:What's going on? Wow, that's crazy. You, a native New Yorker. That's like our greeting call. That's a fact. It's gonna leave me hanging like it's crazy. Welcome to mind over matter. Baby. I'm your host, deja wallace, and if this is your first time joining me, welcome. If this is not, welcome back, I appreciate you, like you really came back to listen, to join us for another episode, like I really appreciate you. A big number, 92. You're 92, okay, so we're going to talk about a lot this episode. From our visuals you can already see we got a guest and I'm excited to introduce him to you. We have Kwa here. He is creator and owner of Hood Visionaries, partial owner, part Visionaries and partial owner. Partial owner partial owner.
Speaker 2:Let the people know a little bit more about you about me born in Crown Heights, grew up in a star, best star. Photography, graphic design, design clothes. Used to play sports, retired athlete a little bit. Yeah, just anything creative for me. We just into it for real.
Speaker 1:Okay, fire, fire. So I have you here today, as another creator, to talk about dreams. Right, yeah, we're going to talk about dreams and we're specifically we're going to talk about dream killers. We're specifically, we're going to talk about dream killers. I don't want to spend too much time talking about the haters, but it's a harsh reality that comes with following your dreams. You're going to have people that's trying to distract you from your vision. We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about the brand, of course, visionaries. We're going to talk about the media, the content creation behind it. We're going to talk about environment, because you did grow up in the stye, so that's a whole episode. Right there, we're going to talk about dreamers and dream killers.
Speaker 1:So kick back relax and enjoy this episode, so let's get into it. So Hood Visionaries, why that name?
Speaker 2:What does that mean to you? Hood Visionaries is kind of just just that term alone is kind of just like where we started out. It's like where we started out and where we're going type of thing. It's not really about where you're from, it's about where you're going for real. So it's just seeing past the block for real. It's like just seeing a bigger picture and just not wanting to be where you at. We all been through our hardships and our struggle. But it kind of goes two ways. It's either you're going to try to make it out or you're just going to fall in a pile with everybody else. And for me and my brothers we just didn't want to fall in a pile.
Speaker 1:Right, right, I like that, and so it's not just you. It's like how many of you are behind the brand?
Speaker 2:I would say service level is two of us.
Speaker 1:It's two. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2:But it is a collective, though there are others within the group that have their hands in a pot, but if we talk about just creating the division in the brand, it's only two of us yeah, the vision and the brand is only two of us. Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so what really inspired you was to just rise, just step out of the crowd, basically, and do something different yeah. Originally HV was my brother's idea.
Speaker 2:Now, we shared the same views but I didn't really take it to the lengths of where he took it, but for me it was just more so for the youth and for my family. For him it's everybody Well, us, us black people, our culture. So, us sharing those views is like you might as well do it together and get active.
Speaker 1:But yeah, rob Markman. So talk more about your environment, because you were raised in the hood. Talk more about how strong your mental has to be to even pursue your dreams. Coming from the hood, Facts.
Speaker 2:So I grew up in well. I was born in Crown Heights. It was like 50-50. I spent a lot of time with my moms in Crown Heights and then my aunt and my cousins in Bed-Stuy. But I grew up in a piece with my moms it was me, her and my five older sisters in a crib. So it was a lot going on and for me personally it was like I used my imagination to escape.
Speaker 2:I never wanted to deal with nothing negative. Anything that was negative. I just didn't want to deal with it. I just went to my craft. I was always drawing. I was always playing with toys. I was always drawing. I was always playing with toys. I was always watching cartoons. I didn't really want to focus on what was going on. My mom did a good job of keeping all of us in the house. I didn't really get to come outside for real by myself until I was a teenager, 15, going into high school. So you feel me I do give for that, for keeping us safe through those times. But me growing up in the sty, that's where I kind of learned how to be outside and how to maneuver in the streets and be on my cousins and we were safe over there too, of course, but that was kind of my dynamic Going from the P's to the Brownstones, the Bed-Stuy. I got to live in two different lives, so it was cool.
Speaker 1:Would you say your craft was your escape? Because I feel like, with imagination, especially as kids, a lot of kids, they use their imagination, especially as kids, a lot of kids, they use their imagination and it's a way for them to like teleport into a different reality, but in your mind you know what I mean. So was that like your safe haven for you, your craft?
Speaker 2:for sure. That was definitely my safe haven, just being able to live in that cartoon world for real. Like that's what it was for me. Like it was kind of like a cartoon world, like I just felt like a superhero as a me. It was kind of like a cartoon world. I just felt like a superhero as a kid. Everything was kind of like a game to me and that was my escape. My mom told me how to draw, so I would say I was kind of under her. She told me how to sew, hand sew and draw and she told me most of what I know creatively, and then I kind of took that and just went crazy after that.
Speaker 1:So, considering your mom helped, she helped water that creativity, right yeah. How important is it for your environment, even though, or the people around you, not even the environment, to help water your vision? How important is that to you?
Speaker 2:Rob Markman. It's super, super, super important because I've lived many lives and I've been around so many different people. I would say the group I'm around now it's kind of like I chose people from different parts of my life and just bunched them all up into one circle. So we bring attributes from hustlers and nerds and creatives and it's just a whole bunch of different people within the same group, but we all just have the same vision. We all want the same group, but we all just have the same vision, Like we all want the same result.
Speaker 2:So just having that around me all the time, you know, we all push each other to just get better and we hold each other accountable so much. Like there's not a day that goes by that me and bro is not thinking about what we got to do. Like there's a task every single day, every single week. Like there's always something to do. There's a task every single day, every single week. There's always something to do. I be at work working on stuff for the brand. You know what I'm saying. Just having those type of people around just reminds you that life is not really a game. You really got to get active if you want to change the world. I just appreciate having them around and that is really super important to me. Rob Markman.
Speaker 1:Jr. You sound very tunnel vision. Not even the haters is going to get to you at this point on your journey. You sound very focused on what you're doing. How do you deal with haters, dream killers, people that are trying to distract you?
Speaker 2:Rob Markman Jr, haters. I would say I don't even have much haters anymore. I feel like maybe I used to. I don't even know, because I don't pay people much attention. For me I like to kill people with kindness. I just maneuver with love with everybody. So it's kind of difficult for people to really continue to hate on you when you just maneuver with love. You know what I'm saying. Eventually people start to feel dumb when they can't penetrate your bubble.
Speaker 1:You feel me.
Speaker 2:That's kind of how I've always been, Even for those that have penetrated the bubble and tried to ruin what I got going on. It was just like you run into a little bump and just find a different approach. The train, don't know, ruin what I got going on. It was just like you know, you run into a little bump and just find a different approach With the train don't stop.
Speaker 1:Yo, you're so unbothered Facts Like you're, Mr Unbothered Sure. Do you think it's hard for people like hood people? Because hood culture has been, it has thrived off of conflict, off of people tearing each other down, off of just being very negative. So do you think it's hard for people in the hood to support one another, Especially because of their environment?
Speaker 2:Rob Markman To support. I would say it's kind of like 50-50 in my head. It's like people don't want to see, People don't really care whether you're doing good or bad. People don't want to see you doing bad, necessarily, and they want to see you doing good, but just not better than them. So it's like I feel like, as long as they're also doing good and you're doing good, it's like there's no real problems for real, Because there's no jealousies, no hate. There's no, none of that going on. But it's always when someone's lacking something. Most hood beef goes over like bread or a woman, or you know what I'm saying. That's where shit really start from. So it's like, you know, if everybody had a girl, if everybody had money, there wouldn't be no problems for real. So yeah, if everybody had something, then wouldn't really be no issues.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Do you believe? What school did you even go to? Did you go to school around you, your zone school, or did you get out your neighborhood and go to school?
Speaker 2:A little bit when I would say, from pre-K to fifth grade I went to school downtown.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Again because my mom trying to keep us out of the hood, I went to school downtown, I went to Head Start over on Vanderbilt, I went to PS9 on Underhill. By what can I say that? By by the library, public library, big one yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I went to school over there yeah, so I went to school over there, and middle school I ended up going to school Court Street for my. So I went to school over there, and middle school I ended up going to school Cork Street for my house. So I was real mad about that one. For me it was a real ghetto in there, but for me that kind of gave us character Like I went through a lot in that school and eventually I was able to get out and I went. I went to, I spent fifth and sixth grade in the hood and then 7th and 8th I went to school in Park Slope because I was finally able to transfer back out and those both years were my whole middle school career, was the best couple years I've ever had. Growing up. In high school I went to school all the way in Coney Island. I went to Lincoln Abraham Lincoln yeah, that was only for sports, though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I figured, because they really good. I played football to Lincoln. Okay, abraham Lincoln. Yeah, that was only for sports, though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I figured Facts Because they really good. I played football, but if it wasn't for sports I probably would've went to school downtown too. Probably would've went to like BHSAs and shit.
Speaker 1:That's interesting because I went to school in different neighborhoods too, for that same reason, because neighborhoods closer to where I was living, where it was predominantly black, just didn't have as much resources as neighborhoods outside. Yeah, so my mom made sure I went to, like you know, like Mill Basin, where it was, like you know, predominantly Italian and it had just more resources. And you see, you could like see the difference. You know, um, even though I did go to school close to the home, it still had like good resources, but like they had like a whole band program and stuff like that just expanding kids minds to like different things. Like I played the flute, you know I could still play the flute, and it's not a lot of people that could play the flute. So what did that experience do for you? Like going from different schools, like how did that expand your mind instead of just staying in one place?
Speaker 2:Going to school in the hood. That made me work on my character more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the character development space.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you had to be tough. You had to have tough skin, and you had to be tough At the same time. You had to learn discipline too. To have tough skin, you have to be tough. At the same time you have to learn discipline too, because you know you can't really crash out every chance you get. You feel me, because there's always somebody that's tougher than you. So you know you just have to learn your limits and pick your battles, and you know what I'm saying. So that helped me out with my character. And then going to school in Park Slope and downtown, that kind of helped me with just being able to see that there's a different life.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Rob Markman. You know, just seeing that there's more to do with yourself other than being in the hood, like there's such a big world other than where you at Like some people don't leave the block, like there's some people that, like I've met people that haven't even left crime rights their whole life and they're like 30, 40 years old. You know what I'm saying. So me being able to move around, I'm just glad I got that experience.
Speaker 1:Rob Markman, yeah, I know people that don't even leave Canarsie and I'm like why? Why not Oma Ops? They don't mess with people in other hoods. I'm like nobody cares, Nobody's looking for you, that's just a story to tell themself, rob Markman for you.
Speaker 2:That's just a story he tell himself. Rob Markman yeah, that's why we do what we do. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of youth, and even them, the people that's our age that's tied into those things. They just don't. Some of them, they see that there's more to do, but they don't know how close to home it is. I've grown up with some people that probably didn't think that they could make it out and some people that didn't make it out. But I'm right next door and I'm doing things that you could be doing.
Speaker 1:You know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying Like I'm doing shit, that people probably you know what I'm saying. You would look at my address and probably be like, oh nah, he's blah, blah, blah. And then you see me, you speak to me and it's a whole different thing. So for me, like just for them to see that there's so much more to life than where you at like um.
Speaker 1:So you did have the support you needed, right? Do you feel like all right? Do you think society is catered to dreamers?
Speaker 2:Nah, I don't think it's catered to dreamers Word. I would say like you really have to live the life that everyone else is living, like just living a normal life, like what people call normal. You know what I'm saying. Like you got to dress like people. You got to speak like people. You got to do what they doing Go to the same stores, eat the same thing. You got to speak like people.
Speaker 1:You got to do what they doing.
Speaker 2:Go to the same stores eat the same thing. Y'all got to play the game, rob Markman. Yeah, other than that, you're weird or you know what I'm saying, but I don't think it's necessarily supported. It's only really supported when you make something of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Rob Markman, when it's like the weirdos are only cool when they're famous or when they're lit. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:That's where your imagination plays into part, because you got to imagine where you want to go before other people see it. Facts Because people don't see the vision. It's your vision. Only you can see it Right.
Speaker 2:People definitely won't see it for you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, For real. So do you feel like, how do you think, how do I even phrase this? Do you think that if more people believe, what would a world look like if more people believed in themselves?
Speaker 2:There would be so much more like individuality, like there would be so much more individuality. There'll be so much more. Probably, some crazy inventions, clothes probably will look crazy, language will probably be crazy, everything will probably be so different if everybody was just themselves, the general population. They're all clones. Everybody's dressing the same, talking the same, going to the same five spots every weekend, doing the same thing.
Speaker 1:It's like copy and paste of each other. Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2:And it's only because they think that's what's cool or that's what's going to make them lit and it's not. If we all trying to get through the same door you know what I'm saying it's going to be hard for everybody to achieve something. You know what I'm saying. It's going to be hard for everybody to achieve something. You know what I'm saying. But it's okay to go jump out the window fucking around if you want to. You feel me. So yeah, people just understood that Life would be easier. A lot of people go through so much shit mentally just trying to keep up. You don't have to. You know what I'm saying. Not everybody's story is the same. Not everybody got to be dark in India. Go be yourself, go be. You Feel me, it's okay to do that. People just don't really grasp it until it's too late.
Speaker 1:And I feel like it's way more exhausting trying to uphold the image that's not true to yourself, because you have to keep feeding that image and it's draining because it's not you Exactly. So that's where the mask comes, where people feel like they have to wake up every day and they have to put on that mask, and then they have to fulfill that duty that they put on themselves, and I feel like that's harder than being yourself.
Speaker 2:That's a fact. We should all chase true freedom, and that's just subjective to yourself. We all have our own definition of what shit is, but so what's freedom to you?
Speaker 2:freedom is just being able to do whatever comes to my mind. I'm just able to do it. You know I'm saying and I'm whether I gotta learn it or I'm just able to do it automatically. That's just freedom to me Just being able to do whatever, of course not breaking laws or nothing, but creatively, just being able to just mentally think, feel and just do, without worrying about any outside views or opinions. That's true freedom for me, just being able to just black out anything that's got to disrupt my imagination. I'm still running on that to this day. Whatever comes to mind, even down to how I speak, my little outbursts or whatever, I just say whatever, do whatever. You know what I mean, because that's what feels natural. That's why I feel most comfortable just doing what I want to do. When I'm forced to do what everyone else is doing, it's kind of just like that's when I become uncomfortable. Yeah, it feels mundane.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it feels like you're just following a status quo. Do you feel like a lot of people who do think like you a lot of dreamers, I think like us, um, have a similar mentality. They are told to be realistic a lot, and do you do you feel like that's a way to diminish or like, is it like telling them to shut up in a way to be more realistic? Because, like to like counter your art, like what you just said, you're saying, like, okay, I want to just do this right now, I want to go to the beach right now. And then somebody's like nah, that's not realistic. Like you, all the way in here and they trying to tell you you can't do it because you like, you think that's just a way of telling you to shut up because they can't do what they want to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll definitely say that's like a form of like projection, like even growing up, you know there'll be some adults that you know you would say you have a dream to be a firefighter or something and that might be far-fetched for them. You know what I'm saying. They probably would never see themselves as a firefighter or nothing like that, and they would just project that on you Like, oh nah, you from here you can't do that. And I feel like that's what a lot of people on the block go through. Everybody has a dream. Everybody grows up dreaming. We're all like a clean slate growing up and just over time we pass through so much different views and knowledge and advice that can either cloud or project us into the future. But yeah, it's just that does limit people so much if you take it the wrong way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it takes a very strong mind to not allow other people's judgment to affect you, right? And I think it's an underrated skill. Yeah, because it's really a skill. It's something you practice. You just it's not like you just wake up and you like, or you just you're born with it. I feel like it's something you have to keep teaching yourself and telling yourself. So how did you become Mr Unbothered? Because I feel like you's something you have to keep teaching yourself and telling yourself. So how did you become Mr Unbothered? Because I feel like you're just so unbothered by other people's opinions. How did you get to this point, and were you always like this?
Speaker 2:Rob Markman Jr. Oh, nah, I would say growing up I was real. I guess you could call it anger issues. I was just quick to act on things. You said something that bothered me. I'll probably fight you right then and there as a kid where, when I got to middle school, that all changed. But being young, that's definitely how it was. Like I said, middle school kind of taught me character, because there's always somebody that's stronger, tougher than you are. So going through that phase of my life and then entering high school to kind of getting into finding myself and kind of stepping into fashion too, I kind of went through a little phase. Like you know, I wanted to wear what I wanted to wear. You know what I'm saying. Like skinny jeans wasn't really hot back then. It was, but it wasn't really hot in our state yet. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So I was kind of there when H&M was releasing the biker jeans and all that the skinny jeans, so I was wearing those that was ripped back then For me I was wearing those, but the people I was around wasn't really on that yet. You know what I'm saying. So it was kind of different for me. They would try to call me gay or all that other crazy shit. I didn't really pay it no mind. It did get annoying sometimes but I didn't really pay it no mind because I knew what I was capable of. I knew what I was doing. I was getting girls and all that. You know what I'm saying. It wasn't really nothing crazy for me, but going through that kind of taught me how to. I feel like that's where I kind of saw my superpower. I bet they could say whatever, but it's like.
Speaker 1:You know who you are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know who I am. And even down the line, them same people come to me asking for fashion advice. Like yo, should I put this together like yo? That fit is crazy. Ah, and it's the same people that was calling me gay back in high school you feel me, so it's like it's crazy, ho you feel me how shit come full circle, yeah, literally yeah, and I like that really told me my superpower and I've just been maneuvering the same ever since.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's just like do what you want to do, and I've seen how that has benefited so much other people. Like when you just do what you want to do and just keep all that shit out your way, keep all of it out the mix.
Speaker 1:Yeah, especially in New York City schools. They're so like judgmental. These kids are so harsh Word Like I don't know how people work at these schools, how people teach Like these kids will cut your ass as a 45-year-old and it's going to hurt. It's going to hurt.
Speaker 2:And it's crazy. You say it because I work with kids. Now, I've been working with kids for the past like about to be five years now. You feel me and I've definitely seen them do that to other kids Like, oh, you got that on, you got this on, you got that on, and just me being me, I've been able to step in and just be like, yo, that's him, that's what he wants to do, that's how he is.
Speaker 2:And they didn't really understand that until they tried to do it to me, like, oh, yo, you got this on Miss Akua, and I was like, okay, you know what I'm saying, like I'm still flattable, you feel me, like at least I'm, you know what I'm saying. And once they got that from me, then they started maneuvering with the other kids differently. Like, oh, let me stop bothering him, let me focus on myself, let me focus on like, let me be more self-aware versus getting on other people. Like I have stuff that I don't got. You know what I'm saying you from, maybe, when you go home, you don't got this, you don't got that, but you talking about another kid that might not have something. You know what I'm saying Just off of looks.
Speaker 2:You never really know. So that's what I do, try to teach the youth when I come across those type of issues.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It's not easy with them kids. It's getting worse. I heard a kid in a park call another kid and they called another kid a disabled cricket. I'm like yo these kids are so creative I've never heard that, like ever, I was laughing. I'm like, damn, now it looks bad because that was good, and the kid didn't know what to say back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, now they're super, super, super unfiltered.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's good and bad. It's good and bad. Some people need it.
Speaker 1:Do you think it's easier or harder being a positive or negative person? Which one do you think is easier?
Speaker 2:I'd say it's easier being positive. Who doesn't want to be happy, I mean? And everybody wants to be happy? So it's like when you actually find that for yourself and you hold on to that and you keep going, it's like that's where you want to be at, like I'll probably say like when I do get in and it's hard to get me upset, but when I do get into that space I probably wouldn't be in that space longer than a couple hours to a day. I wouldn't be mad about something over time, even me being sad. I wouldn't be sad about something for too long. You feel me and I'll say it's definitely easier to be happy than it is to be sad and upset. It takes way more energy. I think growing up I heard something where it takes more muscles to frown than it does to smile.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it takes more facial muscles to frown.
Speaker 2:Rob Markman. So it's been smooth. Everybody should be happy, why not?
Speaker 1:I feel like, coming from New York, we have that stigma where everybody's just negative, everybody mad, all the time, angry at their world, hate their job. They just mad, angry. Yeah, do you think we live up to that to a certain extent?
Speaker 2:We do. I would say it's just surface level, though I've met a lot of nice, of course we grew up here, so we know that New York is not really as gritty as it sounds. It is, but it's not. You know what I'm saying? Mindset Environment. You know what I'm saying? Mindset Facts, and it's like surface level. You just have to be ready for whatever. So that's why we be so like. We look mean and we probably talk mean. You know what I'm saying. You probably say something. You'll be like what Some people, you just got to be ready for whatever. But most people aren't even really mean for real. Yeah, it's the exteriors for real.
Speaker 1:Because I feel like I always say you got to carry a mean mug around, especially as a female. Yeah, because you don't want to be approached in a certain manner. You know you look too nice. People look at that as a green light to speak to you and just even flirt with you sometimes. So I feel like it's just a protective mechanism we've adopted living here just to not be pushed over. But once you speak to somebody, I feel like we are mad, genuine, we open up Rob Markman.
Speaker 2:Yeah, shit, we Look man. If you're not from here, just know we some nice people we are. There's just a lot of crazy shit that goes on.
Speaker 1:It's weirdos out here. I'm not going to lie, yeah like. But for the most part people are nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you just don't know what you get. What was it? What was that Back in like December or before, when all the bums I don't know what it was in the air, but all the bums just going crazy on the trains. Feel me, I know exactly, bro, slap somebody with poop. Yo, I'm like you. Feel me, you just don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1:Nah, they was doing whatever. Yeah, it was the most random stuff the news was reported about. Some lady just got slapped and another lady got slapped. I Like some lady just got slapped and another lady got slapped. I'm like wait what that?
Speaker 2:should be so random.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You just really got to be ready out here, mm-hmm yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's what comes when you live in a city full of billions of people. It's just a billion possibilities.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean Too close, too much people here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they on top of each other. I couldn't hear my neighbor fart. I promise you Word Crazy. I want to get back into mindset, because this show is heavily about mindset. Talk about just mindset development, yeah, and the power of using your internal world to attract your external world, and I truly believe that whatever is happening inside of you is projected into your reality Facts. So how do you feel about that? Just mind over matter that statement.
Speaker 2:What do you think about when you hear that I agree with what you said, with what you know, what you think you attract. You know the law of attraction.
Speaker 2:I definitely believe that and if you stay in a certain mindset, that's what comes to you all the time, like I have friends that you know they think negatively of certain situations before it even comes in it. That's what happens to them because that's what you were so heavy on. And for me, personally, it doesn't happen that way, because I always try to think positively on things before shit comes and things have been smooth, like I'm living in. What a lot of people need to see too is that we're living in shit that we prayed for a couple weeks ago, months ago, last year, years ago. You know what I'm saying. We're living in that now. So don't really shoot yourself down before she even comes up. Keep that positive mindset if you can. But, yeah, mind over matter. For real, like I said before, it's not really about where you are right now, it's about where you're going.
Speaker 2:And even for me right now, like what I've been, I moved out about a year ago. You know, thanks to my brother, moved out about a year ago. Congratulations, thank you. For me, before that, it was like I never thought to myself that I would be here forever or that I wouldn't make it out. You know what I'm saying and I always kept that to myself. Like yo, no matter how it happens, you won't be here one day, you'll go somewhere, you'll go do something great one day. You feel me and it was so crazy how shit happened so quick you feel me Just keeping that mentality, and opportunities just came like that and I was gone Out of there. I was gone.
Speaker 2:I was out of there. You know what I mean, and a lot of people just need to hold on to that little thing. It's just so little surface level. Just believe in your situation and yourself, no matter what goes on. I tried moving out plenty of times before and shit didn't happen. But I just knew yo, this is not the place for you.
Speaker 1:It's not the right time.
Speaker 2:Exactly. You're not ready probably yet Exactly that for you. It's not the right time, exactly. You're not ready, probably. Yet exactly that, too, for me. You just have to be around the right people, and there's certain pieces that you need before you move on right.
Speaker 1:So um, how do you feel about like? It sounds like you've placed yourself, or you attracted like the right people in your environment to help you grow with your dream and it has made your route seamless, almost right. Unfortunately, that's not the case for everybody, right? Some people, unfortunately, have different cards dealt to them and it's harder because they're getting more resistance from the people around them, right? Um, all of that being said, how do you feel like some encouragement for people who aren't really where you are yet, with that mentality of just blocking everything out, because at times it feels like it's an attack on their dreams. They can't even speak about their dreams, no more. I feel like sometimes, when you can't speak about your dreams, you're still suppressing it, because when you speak about things out into your reality, you're speaking it into existence. That's why they say speaking it into existence. That's why they say speak it into existence. That's like manifesting.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, it really comes from you and it's. You know it sounds easier said than done Always with a lot of things, but it really comes from you. Like I've been through, you know, my mom, you know not to put on a spot, Sorry, ma.
Speaker 1:Not to put on a spot.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying Like there was a certain point in time, even though she instilled so much in me where and this is what goes on within our community, and you know, I would say Caribbean parents mostly, but just black folks overall. You know they, you know like, like they just want to see you win, but they want to see you win, whether that's what your dreams or not. So I've been through phases where my moms or whoever like family members, have like told me like yo, like just get into this, get into that. Like go do sanitation, go take this test, go take that test. Go be an engineer, go do sanitation, go take this test, go take that test go be an engineer, go do that versus following your dream.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying and I'm just like bro, like yeah, that's cool, like money is cool, but it's like without happiness, all that shit is dead, like all that shit is whack, like I don't want to do that. So it really just comes from you for real, like you really just have to see it. Once you see it, then you believe it. For me, seeing is believing.
Speaker 1:Casper shit.
Speaker 2:But yeah, you really just have to see it for yourself. There's never a time I had the same visions over and, over and over again. I created that for myself and I feel like I'll get there eventually. But it's the same vision, the same picture every single time where I see myself in those environments doing those same things that I'm praying for myself to get to. And you just have to see it. You really have to see it, and you can do that shit. I've helped a lot of people that thought they couldn't do certain things, and it just took seeing it for themselves to even take the first step. A lot of people thought they couldn't even think of a brand for themselves or think of how to brand themselves, not even having a brand, just branding yourself. So you just got to see it for yourself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, faith, faith, exactly. That's really what it is. Facts, it says.
Speaker 2:sometimes you just got to don't see by sight, see by faith, don't see by sight, see by faith and people too, where they go wrong good things, have faith, because faith without work is dead.
Speaker 2:For me, so it's like a lot of people they may want to do so much but nobody want to put the work in. Nobody wants to actually sit down and pull out a notebook and write some shit down or go down and ride the whole of what you want to do and people and study people that have been there before you you know what I'm saying Just doing those things that you need to do to just be fully of yourself and your dream. Rob Markman.
Speaker 1:Tunnel vision Rob Markman.
Speaker 2:People don't want to do that.
Speaker 1:You know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying they don't understand that, yes, fun will always be there and I still enjoy myself. Fun will always be there. I've taken time off of going to clubs and all of that and I go back and it's the same people, Same shit going on.
Speaker 1:It's scary.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So it's like you're not really missing out and, having that self-isolation phase, you'll find that other things are fun. You feel me Like you know I mean people probably look at it small type shit. Like at a certain point in time I was trashing bowling Like I was super dookie. I used to hate that shit and then once I already took the time to be like yo, like I bet is how you roll the ball, you could do this, you could do that. Now I love bowling. Like you know what I'm saying, like you're just getting active, I did not see that coming yeah like people just don't.
Speaker 2:Like just take the time to focus and put that work in and you'll see how much shit around you changes. And even you being so about yourself and about your work will change your environment too. You know what. So about yourself and about your work will change your environment too. You know I'm saying that'll bring certain people along, like you said attracting, and that'll also shave off ones that don't need to be around you. You know I'm saying like some people don't, some people will see you going crazy or you just so into your work and they'll get intimidated versus, like you know, asking for help or just feeding off that like feeding off your energy and being motivated.
Speaker 2:Like I have bros that aren't necessarily doing what I'm doing, but they see me doing what I'm doing and it motivates them to get out of what they're, like where they're at, and just do more for themselves, like whether it's the same business as me or a different one, and a lot of people just need to see that. Like you don't got to be jealous of your bros, you don't got to be jealous of your bros, you don't got to be jealous of nobody. Like, take that same, take that same energy and be inspired. You feel me?
Speaker 1:it's like we all got the same 24 hours and if somebody else can do it, you can definitely do it and some people are doing it with little to nothing less than what you have.
Speaker 1:Somebody has exactly the same circumstance, the same resources that you have, and they've done like. They've done what they needed to do to get where they are. Facts and people it's all about mindsets, and people see that as a threat and some people don't see that as inspiration. So choose a mindset that you feel like is gonna bring you like joy and peace, because I feel like, like you said, I feel like positivity is way easier, but it's marketed to us like it's hard, like, oh, this podcast isn't gonna sell because you're not talking about sex, or you should be talking about this, or you should be talking about that because nobody's gonna care. But I truly believe that not everybody has that toxic mentality. Not everybody wants to hear the same things repeated, repeated about. Oh, just weird stuff that grown people be talking about on podcasts, which is concerning, but that's a whole different episode.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm tired of the way our culture is right now, all of those topics, the whole man versus woman thing, especially us, our man versus woman, our kings and queens versus each other, and for me that's a whole different conversation. You know what I'm saying. All that was installed from way back, you feel me, and it's working now and it's working now and we still lost.
Speaker 1:But I want to touch on social media too. It's a big. It's just a bit of things we could talk about there, but I want to talk about specifically just what's promoted on social media right now. And first of all, your content creation game is crazy. You're doing your thing. I love the visuals, the animated, oversized things you be doing. It's very different. It's creative. It reminds me of old meme culture. When I see your content, that's how I interpret it. It's very cool, rob.
Speaker 2:Markman Jr. That was our era.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm going to post some stuff too, of his pics and stuff. I went on a whole tangent back to the social media thing, right? So how do you, as a creator, stay tunnel vision in that? It's just a abyss of distraction sometimes, yeah you could get caught into the scrolling, into the comparing very easily um, you know we're all the same in certain aspects.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. I catch myself scrolling. You know what I'm saying? Like it's, I wouldn't even say it's normal, but it's normal. You feel me Like we all do those things and it just takes like it's normal at this point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like it's. I feel like as long as you're getting, it's okay to do that, but just make sure your priorities are straight, just staying away from the distractions, just being self-aware, just knowing yourself. I don't fanboy over anybody. I don't care how bad you are. I'm not a fan of anybody. You know what I'm saying. I would love your work and I'll be so inspired, but that doesn't mean I want to live your life. You inspire me to do what I need to do for myself, not to be just like you. You know what I'm saying. That's the way people need to interpret what they see, not to just do the same thing that they're doing. I listen to some crazy music. I listen to the same drill. Everybody else listen to. That don't mean that I want to go kill somebody. That I mean I want to go pick up a strap or something. You know I'm saying I might pick one up for my family. You know I'm saying like down the line yeah where, but not.
Speaker 2:You know, I'm saying like I'm not gonna go beef with nobody over, no bread or no girls or no. You know, I'm saying like people just need to see that and just just be yourself. You shouldn't be going back to that, I think also.
Speaker 1:Social media obviously is a reflection of our society too. If you are a conscious person, you're going to see conscious things on your timeline, so your scrolling is actually benefiting you in a way. And if you're a toxic person, you're going to see straight toxicity on your timeline, which is interesting how that whole algorithm works. I also feel like this instant gratification era is also making it look like the process is easier than what it really is. Rob Markman yeah, fyfe L, and I feel like a lot of kids that are growing up in their social media era are getting very discouraged when it comes to following their dreams, because they see people their age who have all these things, but they're not showing the process of it. So how do you feel about just that instant gratification age and just that kind of image of overnight success that is being portrayed, not the process?
Speaker 2:Gotcha. I would say with that now it's sort of like common sense. You know what I'm saying. It's like, of course, you're not seeing what they had to do to get there, but you should know that it takes some sort of work to get there. Like you know, some people do blow up over a day. Some people do. You know what I'm saying. You could jump over the table and be viral and maybe earn millions just for that one video.
Speaker 1:But for most.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe you know what I'm saying, but for most, like most people put the work in Like most people have been through things and you know we all have similar stories. Like we all came from, most of us came from struggle, you know. So it's like just taking where you've been from and just seeing that, how would I say? I would say like, and it's crazy for people because they could see somebody going through struggle and they could hear somebody's backstory and still just want to earn something quick you know what I'm saying? Like they would just want to skip that whole process and it's like, bro, you can't do that. Like you know, it's not, that's not how it works for everybody and that's not how it works for most, you know.
Speaker 1:But when you're just catching a reel or catching a quick few seconds of something and not seeing the whole process, it kind of can manipulate people to thinking, damn, they have everything together and it's just there, especially younger kids.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that shit took work. Anytime I can, I love to share the process of what things was and the inspiration and the process that it was to get where we was at. And that's why me and bro, we shoot so much BTS, even if we just sitting on the couch talking, even before we had a couch, you know what I'm saying. We record all of that, we take videos and pictures of everything, just so that one day we could show people like yo, this came from somewhere. It wasn't like bro just had a family and we was gifted whatever we had. Nah, this shit took work. It was times where we was eating the same meal every day. Well, that's not bad. We meal prep. You know what I'm saying. You got to do that. But it's certain times where we was eating the same things and we didn't have a couch, we didn't have a TV yet you know Like shit takes work.
Speaker 2:It was still showing you feel me, because we still had to get shit done and we knew that what we do would change our environment. And now we have those things. Now shit is different for us. You feel me, people just need to understand. Like you really have to look within yourself. That's where everything starts. You cannot look too far outside of yourself.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. I can see someone on a train, a Mary Down with a baddest shorty, and it's just like all right, cool, that's where you at. But like one we on the same train together, and two like I don't know what you did to get what you have. You know what I'm saying, even for her. And that's a lot of people need to see too. Like that's a whole nother thing, like people just come to you because they think you have something or that they think that they can benefit from you. Like, you know what I'm saying, some people may look rich and don't give you a dollar. You feel me, and that's why a lot of people get messed up. You know what I'm saying. Oh, I might see blah, blah, blah, blah. He got all his bread. He driving his cars Whole time, his rentals Whole time. The bread was probably scammed. You know what I'm saying, you. You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. I was there before Most times, but you know what.
Speaker 2:I'm saying it's like and it's never longevity. You know what I'm saying? Everything is always quick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's quick, Like you get with somebody you don't appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Exactly Like everything is so quick and they have it now but you don't know where it's going to go. That's music, clothes, brands, like I've seen people that create a brand just because it brings you some bread, but they're not thinking of long term and where they should go with it and shit just don't last.
Speaker 1:It's not intentional.
Speaker 2:Exactly so.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Really just got to put work and look within yourself and I want to talk also about like fun, because what's seen as fun also on social media is like a lot of like, you know, partying drinking. That what's seen as fun also on social media is a lot of partying drinking. That's the main thing that's promoted as fun and I love that.
Speaker 1:Earlier you mentioned how, when you step away from those things, you see other things, maybe funny, like bowling which you're not really going to see people doing on your feed like that, unless that's your niche you know that's your niche, yeah, um, so I think that also the instant gratification also plays a role into our age group not being okay with being bored facts and I feel like in that, like just that's. You know, that stillness is where you find what you like.
Speaker 2:It's okay to sit the fuck down, it's okay to chill. You feel me, sometimes that stillness does bring in other things, like what would I say Just being at home? Or sometimes you could just be on your stoop in the hood and just you might miss the opportunity to be inspired by something because you're always moving around and just living that fast life. Like yo, I got to wake up, I got to go to this club, I got to do this, I got to do that, and it's like you miss certain things that you can just enjoy the little things. You feel me Like just being able to sit outside or take a walk and just see people meet people, like seeing how other people are living, just enjoying the nature, enjoying the weather. You feel me Eating fruits outside, grounding, like all those type of things, like people miss out on that because they just want to live that life.
Speaker 2:You feel me that life. You feel me Fast life, like what seems cool, and you miss those opportunities when you're trying to live the same life, like when you move within your same lane, like this stuff, there's a life for you already, and when you're trying to move out your lane, you miss what's for you, trying to grasp what someone else already got. You feel me, but, yeah, just being able to sit down, you miss out on so much, and even about yourself like people don't. The fact that you're moving around so much and all of that you don't see yourself Like you don't take the time to look into yourself and think about yourself and take care of yourself. Like a lot of people are messed up in the head. But, like you said, the instant gratification and that little satisfaction of just going outside and drinking and smoking. People need that to live and that's so crazy. People need to drink, people need to smoke, people need to do certain things to function and that's really crazy and it's like-.
Speaker 1:Rob Markman Jr, or be around a bunch of people.
Speaker 2:Rob Markman Jr. Yeah, and it's like if you would just sit down and think for yourself for once. You know what I'm saying You'll realize so much Like you'll realize how great you are and you need to appreciate certain things about yourself when you get there. But people just need to start off. Just getting away from everything and just bringing it back to yourself Like self is so important.
Speaker 1:Word Getting away from everything and just bringing it back to yourself Like self is so important Word and I feel like when you do get to that you also attract what's right for you and in alignment with you, Because sometimes when you are just filling the void constantly, I'm so sorry. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Happy men's damn. What is it?
Speaker 1:Mental.
Speaker 2:Men's Mental Health Month.
Speaker 1:Yeah, please, aside from all that other you I'm saying I ain't gonna get into all that, but big up.
Speaker 2:Yes, for me. Happy that for us, because we really need that. Yeah, for me we go through a lot in these streets.
Speaker 1:But yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I'm glad you did that. Um, yeah, what does that even like? Why is that so important to you? Not to get deep into it, not to make this a whole therapy session, but why is that so important to you?
Speaker 2:Rob Markman. It's important because for us you know what I'm saying coming out the womb, we have a role already. We already have, damn near, we already have our whole life planned out for us and if you don't live by that, you're not a man. You feel me, rob Markman, and what we need to understand you know what I'm saying. Me and my brothers call all y'all brothers, you feel me, if you fuck with me, I'll fuck with you.
Speaker 2:What we need to understand is we create that definition for ourselves. You feel me. We take those norms from the world and whatever definitions and we create that for ourselves. And that goes for not even just being a man, but just love, relationships, life, everything, like you know, you create that for yourself, that definition. So, yeah, there's a lot of us that go through shit and we're not allowed to talk about it because it's not manly. You know I'm saying this whole sassy word is being thrown around for us, holding others accountable. You feel me? That shit is crazy. You feel me we just people, just us as men, we go through a lot yeah we're not allowed to say much.
Speaker 2:Our only role is just to get up, work, protect, keep your mouth closed, that's it and provide exactly. We have so much on our minds, we have so much to say and we're just not allowed to say it. So, and I know people that's real close to me that have been through so much and just don't say much, and it hurts me to not be able to know what's going on with them, just because that's just how life is, that's how the world is, like, bro, like, go through that yourself, figure it out. You feel me?
Speaker 1:Yeah, man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that should be crazy. And it's people in the general would say like oh, you know, we want to hear what's on your mind, you wanted this, you wanted that, and when we finally speak, we finally say something. It's laughed at what's turned down or we're seeing that self because we're vulnerable.
Speaker 1:now it's dismissed. Yeah, Word.
Speaker 2:Because we're vulnerable. Now it's dismissed, yeah Word. So it's like that kind of just adds on to the bulletproof vest that we have already.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So word.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to lie. Sassy has been a very dismissive term too.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I feel like it's unfair because, like you've seen that list going around, I don't want to get too deep into it about like, oh, men aren't allowed to like, oh, that should do this and do that, and do this and do that, and it's like what it does. It it masks like something that's actually real into like a con, like a con, like a comical yeah deep.
Speaker 2:They're kind of like desensitizing us from a lot of shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's important. Mm-hmm Word. So yeah, like that sassy man apocalypse is really very detrimental to specifically black men and I feel like it attacks them a lot from even more from being vulnerable.
Speaker 2:And it's, and you know there's always a middle, a middle ground, like there are men out here that you know certain shit is like all right, bro, like you're a dude you know what I'm saying, like you feel me like?
Speaker 1:yeah, for sure it's not that sassy isn't a thing, it's just that where they're taking it now was like bro it's to the point where a lot of my friends they are so like, when they even interact with the dude that's, one of the first things on their mind is if he has any signs of being sassy.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's to that point, which is like huh.
Speaker 2:It's weaponized and so much of it is weaponized. I'm not going to get into the whole what is weaponized, but that's one of the things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:It's okay to do what you want to do, feel how you feel it's okay to do that, and I'm glad that at least we're confiding in each other as men.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:If it's not your mom or whoever sister, girlfriend, whoever, at least we're talking to the bros, at least At least you letting it out of your head, whoever sister, girlfriend, whoever, at least we're talking to the bros, at least At least you letting it out of your head. Yeah, something. And I would say like I mean, people have been doing it forever now, like especially us men just finding our outlet, whether that's sports, music, fighting or like boxing you know what I'm saying Whatever martial arts or whatever you know, we've been doing good with that, like just finding that outlet but you know, just finding that vocal outlet, I'm glad that we have that now.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, for sure, I'm glad you brought that up too. We love you men. Sorry, I don't know what to say, but, um, any last words. You want to finish off with Any topics you want to touch on. That's on your heart, and you just want to get it off, get it out there, let the people know.
Speaker 2:Positively. I would just say you know, just stay true to yourself, Be yourself, Figure out your purpose, man and woman. Figure out your purpose, man and woman. Figure out your purpose. Maneuver through that, because that's what comes first and that is what'll make you a better person in this world.
Speaker 2:We need that, no matter how alone you feel or how whatever things are, there are eyes on you, Somebody's looking at you, somebody's looking up to you, somebody's watching you. Just do the right thing, especially the youth. I see this all the time I've seen when I first stepped into this world of teaching kids and mentoring kids where they were their own person, and then me coming in, just being myself and being genuine and showing them love, how they want to be like me. So there's definitely eyes on you and just to do what you got to do, you feel me. Don't live nobody else's life. You're your own person. For a reason we all don't look the same. We wasn't born on the same day, same time, same. You know what I'm saying? Like we're all different for a reason and we need to live by that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Rob Markman word.
Speaker 1:Not even identical twins have the same fingerprint.
Speaker 2:I never knew that.
Speaker 1:Every fingerprint is different. They may look the same, but they're not really the same. So, yeah, I really like the message that you bring out here, because I'm not going to lie these past few months I've been feeling really down because I haven't been as heavily into my craft as I wanted to be, and now I'm back and I'm feeling better. So, yeah, this conversation was really needed, because it just reminded me that it's all in your head. At the end of the day, it's all mental warfare.
Speaker 2:Facts that you have and even with that, like, you have your own pace and time for things you may not be doing. Of course, I see people and kids and even people I went to school with or whatever that's doing way better than me and they're younger than me. You know what I'm saying. I'm like, damn, I wish I was doing this at that age. You know what I'm saying. But everything happens for a reason. You have your own time for things. Even me, I felt like my designing and my life slowed down and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:But you look back at what happened and you see that shit happened for a reason and there's certain things that have to come into your life and certain things that are part of your story, other than what you feel like or what you think is supposed to go down, and that all plays into, like spirituality and those type of things. Just leaving, yes, putting in the work, but also keeping the faith, like just understanding that. You know what I'm saying. Your life is already set for you and, depending on your decisions, is what'll change how things go on. Like there's certain possibilities depending on what you choose, but it's already set for you and depending on your decisions, is what'll change how things go on. It's certain possibilities depending on what you choose, but it's already set for you.
Speaker 1:You just have to play the game you know it's already destined. Facts Destiny is already there. Facts If it's your destiny, nothing can take you away from it. It may be detours but, at the end. It's always going to be there. The vision is in you for a reason. That's why they call it tunnel vision. There's light at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 2:That's a fact.
Speaker 1:That's a fact. I like that. So if you listen to the end of another episode, I appreciate you Shout out to you. I feel like you really believe in yourself, you really love yourself. For that you made it to the end. Big up, big up, big up. Thank you so much, kwap, for joining me. Appreciate you. Make sure you follow everything. Link in the description. Where to find him, the clothing brand Everything is linked in the description. Thanks, tune in.
Speaker 2:Tune in.
Speaker 1:Tune in. I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 2:Stay fly, please stay fly, rob Markman, the Boss of the World, and I appreciate y'all. Stay fly, please stay fly, rob Markman, the Boss of the.
Speaker 1:World and I appreciate y'all. Please do, please, I beg of you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man.
Speaker 1:I'm struggling with that episode Because you know like when you bring somebody on, they got to be like aligned mentally. Sometimes I'll be inviting people on and they don't get to be aligned. That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, mm-hmm you don't want to work with them right back. You want to wear one that's like Thank you, yeah, oh yeah, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy.
Speaker 1:I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy, I.