V.C.R. Presents: Diving into "The Lost Boys" – A Nostalgic Bite of '80s Vampiric Cool

Step back into the big hair and bold fashion of the '80s with our latest podcast episode, where the iconic film "The Lost Boys" takes center stage. Prepare to have your nostalgia senses tingled as we reminisce about the unforgettable duo Corey Haim and Corey Feldman, discussing everything from the film's Californian cool and the vampiric undertones to the cultural references that shaped a generation. We'll even share some trivia to satiate your hunger for behind-the-scenes knowledge and debate whether a month of movies starring the two Corys is in order.

Let's peel back the layers of Santa Carla's eerie charm and the rebellious spirit captured in Joel Schumacher's masterpiece. Through the lens of the Emerson family's experience, we analyze the unique blend of horror and humor that made "The Lost Boys" a film ahead of its time. Uncover fan theories about mysterious posters and laugh along as we connect dots between '80s sneaker culture, comic book clout, and the shiny sheen of fake blood that gives this film its timeless appeal.

Wrap up your trip down memory lane with our examination of the climactic showdown against the vampire gang that has become almost as legendary as the film itself. As we question the logistics of vampire lore and the convenience of fence post weaponry, we open the floor to you, our listeners, to chime in on social media and share your perspectives. Join us for this celebration of an era where the sax was sexy, the vampires were cool, and the two Corys ruled the silver screen.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:01

thanks for tuning in to the vintage cinema review on this week's episode. We're covering from 1987 the lost boys yeah, with cory haim and cory feldman.

Speaker 3: 0:10

It ain't the innocent boys from wonderland anymore no, uh yeah, sam and michael are two all-american teens.

Speaker 1: 0:15

Uh, one's in the comic books, one's into jamie gertz yeah, this was a uh, a listener pick, but also matt's pick yeah, we're doing lost boys, we hope. Speaking of which, if you are, leave us that five-star rating on Spotify, on Apple, leave us a written review and sit back, relax and enjoy. From 1987, the Lost Boys. Hey, this is Dave.

Speaker 3: 0:39

Matt and Zap, and welcome to the Vintage Cinema Review.

Speaker 1: 0:44

Where, every week, we review some of our favorite films from the past.

Speaker 3: 0:47

Hey, there ain't no late fees here, silence is golden and be kind Rewind. It's dark in here, I seem to be lost. What up boys? What's up man?

Speaker 2: 1:04

Nice, nice, nice. It's always dark in the movie theater in the lost. Well, what up boys? What's up man? Nice, nice, nice. It's always dark in the movie theater in the basement it is.

Speaker 1: 1:08

Yeah, matt's loading it up today. What you got, we have the lost boys an 80s classic, 80, what 687 87, 87,.

Speaker 2: 1:17

You know I slept on this for the longest time.

Speaker 3: 1:19

Really yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:20

I.

Speaker 2: 1:21

I didn't see this. Well, I guess it's not the longest time. So if it came out in 87, early high school at best early high school, so early 90s.

Speaker 1: 1:30

I know I saw it like back when I was younger, like probably a year after it came out, and I remember I didn't like it as much back then because I think it was a little too stylistic for me at the time. It was different.

Speaker 3: 1:40

Well, like two 80s.

Speaker 1: 1:42

Well, it was just at the time. It was different. Well, like two 80s. Well, it was just at the time, if you look at the movie.

Speaker 3: 1:45

It was a little Dated.

Speaker 1: 1:46

No, no, no. At the time I think it was kind of not futuristic, but it was just shot a little different than most movies at the time.

Speaker 3: 1:53

I think it's because it was Californian. I think, they're like 10 years ahead of us. I see what you're saying.

Speaker 1: 1:58

The perspective from which this was shot shot is it's unique for sure it was a little too hip, maybe for me at the time. I was like, I mean, I liked it. I shouldn't say I didn't like it, but I just I liked it more as time went on. If that makes sense, I don't know. But yeah, so lost boys. Uh, july 31st 1987, this was released, so that summer we would have been what? 11, yeah, yeah, going 12 for me, running time on this 97 minutes, and it was rated R. No surprise there. No surprise. This was directed by Joel Schumacher and produced by Harvey Bernhard.

Speaker 1: 2:33

That's not the guy that.

Speaker 3: 2:34

no, that's not the guy for all the rapes and everything. Bernhard.

Speaker 1: 2:38

Right right, budget on this $8.5 million and box office was $32.2 million. Nice, so that's a good return. Hell yeah, man.

Speaker 2: 2:49

Very good, that's a 400% return, Juice is definitely worth the squeeze. That's a winner and that's a good summer return man. That's good.

Speaker 1: 2:57

Like I said, I know the marketing on this like the posters and stuff looked cool and I was definitely excited to see it. I didn on this.

Speaker 3: 3:05

like the posters and stuff looked cool and I was, you know, definitely excited to see it. I didn't see it at the theater, I didn't.

Speaker 1: 3:07

I saw this on like tv, I think, so it had to been when I was in probably high school or right before uh see, I I know we used to rent movies like crazy, so I would rent stuff as soon as they came out, you know. So I know I probably saw this at like 12 years old. That's probably why I didn't really get it. Then I was like, yeah, and cory haim and cory feldman were close they were huge.

Speaker 3: 3:26

Yeah, they were closer to my age.

Speaker 1: 3:28

But, um, yeah, I mean, like I said, I don't say I hated it back then, but I know I didn't really get it as much back then agreed.

Speaker 2: 3:35

It took me a second or third watch since it, you know, since my first time to, to really let it soak in yeah we could do like a haim feldman.

Speaker 3: 3:43

We could do like a whole month of those like license to drive. I thought was an awesome movie, if anybody's ever seen that. Um, what else were they in together? Dream a little dream, a little dream where, uh what feldman thought he was michael jackson that's right um and actually carried that on like he's.

Speaker 2: 3:57

He still does that shit correct when in recent years and this is everything got blurred in 2020. So it could have been 2015 for all I know, but even when he tried to come back out as again a solo artist and he had these girls dancing behind him and doing whatever the hell, he was dancing like Michael Jackson.

Speaker 1: 4:14

But yeah, this movie was shot in Santa Cruz County, california, and Santa Cruz in Spanish means Holy Cross, which that's kind of ironic.

Speaker 3: 4:25

Glad you're touching up on your Spanish thing.

Speaker 1: 4:27

Well, I'm not Wikipedia is oh awesome.

Speaker 3: 4:29

Thank you, wikipedia.

Speaker 1: 4:31

I thought that was interesting, though, being that it's vampires and crucifixes and all that. So they filmed this from June 2nd 1986 through June 23rd 21 days, yeah.

Speaker 2: 4:43

Three weeks, yeah, that's fantastic.

Speaker 1: 4:46

Yeah, mean, that's kind of shocked me.

Speaker 3: 4:47

I thought it would be longer yeah, usually a few months, like five, six months for a movie, right dang they were getting it in, man, that's not bad and this had some stunts in it and effects yeah things.

Speaker 1: 4:57

So, um, maybe they were just rushing it. I mean, the budget was eight and a half million, sneaky fucking russians, yeah r Russians, they were rushing it. Yeah, but that's pretty much it for that part of it. I'll turn it over to Zap for the cast.

Speaker 2: 5:09

Yeah. So the cast of the Lost Boys includes, but is not limited to, jason Patrick as Michael Emerson Corey Haim playing the part of Sam Emerson. Diane Wiest as Lucy Emerson Bernard Hughes as Grandpa Edward Herman as Max Kiefer Sutherland playing the part of David Jamie Gertz as Star.

Speaker 3: 5:40

You know how much she's worth? Zap, nope, $8 billion With a B. With a B With a B. Car doors go like this yeah, yeah, she got more, a lot of cars. How did that happen? Yeah, we'll get into that. I think I mentioned it before. I'd like to get into that.

Speaker 2: 5:58

Corey Feldman as Edgar Frog, jameson Newlander as Alan frog, brooke mccarter as paul billy worth as duane, alex winter as marco chance, michael corbett as laddie and, lastly, tim capello playing the part of the beach concert star.

Speaker 1: 6:25

The beach concert guy. You know, when you went upstairs Matt was showing, we pulled up a picture of that guy. Matt's like look this guy. He's only like 52.

Speaker 2: 6:33

You took a look at a recent picture.

Speaker 1: 6:39

Well, Matt pulled it up when we were looking at it, matt, because he's 52.

Speaker 3: 6:41

I'm like there's no way he would have been like 14. You were like, wow, he was in such great shape for a 15 year old kid was the math off on the

Speaker 1: 6:46

calculation the picture was from like 2015. Yeah, I see.

Speaker 3: 6:49

Yeah, I was like there's no way it was some sort of like comic-con thing, like the guy sits around. It looks like on like tables like this. You know how the wrestlers yeah yeah, they show like them going to like these old gyms and signing pictures. It looks like that's what that guy does. Yeah, how is he a?

Speaker 2: 7:01

draw. Who gives a shit about tim capello?

Speaker 1: 7:05

because the lost boys yeah, it must be from that, or what was the other thing you said he toured with?

Speaker 2: 7:09

he toured with. Well man, you're killing my fun facts here, bro hey, premature, I'm not telling okay, we'll save it. We'll see we're holding on to that one.

Speaker 1: 7:19

That's a hot ticket when it comes to tim capello, I gotta edge because he's so fine there's gonna be a lot of tim capello talk, I'm sure when we get to that.

Speaker 3: 7:27

Real quick into the Gertz thing. I know nothing's real quick but Jamie Gertz. I guess because of her super hotness back then she is so hot in this movie, so hot. This guy Wrestler, I think, is his name he's a huge investment banker, hedge funds. This guy is funds like this guy's money, money and uh, I think he was so into her that he had to ask her out and apparently they got married and now she owns, like uh, baseball teams and hockey teams and good for her.

Speaker 2: 7:52

I know that's what I said good for you I say good for her and good for her husband yeah, so uh, I guess that's it for the cast.

Speaker 3: 7:59

We'll turn over to matt for a brief synopsis if I can read this, my eyes are getting bad. I'm getting older, that's why it's Old, dirty Basement. Yeah, it is old, you gotta brush the dirt off of that synopsis.

Speaker 3: 8:11

Yeah, this is a hip comic twist on classic vampire story. Sam and his older brother, Michael, are all-American teens with all-American interests, but after they move with their mother to peaceful Santa Carla, California, things mysteriously begin to change. Michael's not himself lately, and mom's not going to like what he's turning into. Uh-oh, the Lost Boys reshapes vampire tradition, deftly mixing heart-pounding terror, rib-tickling laughs and a body-girating rock soundtrack. Actually, very good soundtrack, Good soundtrack, yeah. Under Joel Schumacher's direction, a marvelous cast Jason Patrick, Jamie Gertz, Kiefer Sutherland, Corey Feldman, Corey Haim, Bernard Hughes and Edward Herman stakes you to a gleefully ghoulish entertainment. Ladies and gentlemen, the Lost Boys.

Speaker 2: 8:58

So I'm looking over, as Matt was reading that synopsis and in fact, instead of a piece of paper or a computer screen, matt was actually reading that from the back of the dvd yeah, which brings me to kudos to you, dave, for owning the dvd of the lost boys.

Speaker 1: 9:12

Oh yeah, like I said, I've grown to like this movie. You know, over the years, like watching it, you know what I mean, it's not my collection, but I'm envious that it's in yours. Yeah, no, it's one of those ones that when you go to blockbuster and it was like five, 99, you know I'm like fuck, yeah, I'll get that movie.

Speaker 2: 9:26

Hell yeah.

Speaker 1: 9:27

I got a ton of DVDs like that that I just picked up over the years and I've held on to them, Thank God.

Speaker 3: 9:33

You sound like Stilton George. He still calls me sometimes. He's like you never believe what I got for 99 mart and places like that. They'll throw him in these big bins and there's, like I think he found like a jaws 2 or something he's all excited about there is a perpetual yard sale that occurs in downtown harrisburg every day, every day, in the 200 block of second street.

Speaker 2: 9:52

it's right in front of the uh hornings hardware. Okay, so hornings hardware, not only do they operate, maintain and operate a handful of hardware stores, but they also operate a second business, and it's basically cleaning out estates, vacant houses, anything like that. So essentially you one would call them, say, look man, I got this house. My parents died, or I'm sitting on this house, or it was a, it's a rental that nobody's there and they left all their shit. I want to pay you to take all this shit out of my house. Cool, so they show up, they take all the shit out, they rummage through it and then they make money on the back end reselling some of that stuff.

Speaker 1: 10:30

Yeah, eBay.

Speaker 2: 10:31

So I tell you all of that to get to at this never-stopping everyday yard sale in front of this hardware store they have a bin of DVDs and VHSs.

Speaker 1: 10:41

Nice and it grows, grows, it, shrinks, it grows, it shrinks. It's amazing. Yeah, much like uh, never mind, oh, um, but yeah, lost boy is definitely one of the ones that like over the years I was like man. I get it as I got a little older and that style of movie, like it, like it is stylistic, even watching it now, like you had a different style to the filming yep um.

Speaker 3: 11:00

Watching it now was excellent yeah I really appreciated it.

Speaker 1: 11:03

Although I saw some undertones in it that I didn't really probably notice as a kid, and different things.

Speaker 2: 11:09

That's going to pop up in one of the breaks.

Speaker 3: 11:11

Undertoneage.

Speaker 2: 11:12

There's an undertone there that I saw that it didn't quite make sense, that I certainly wouldn't have noticed as a kid, but certainly nothing I would have done as a kid either.

Speaker 1: 11:20

No, no, just not making sense Nope kid either.

Speaker 3: 11:24

No, no, just not making, not making sense. Nope, no, it's funny. I do remember, um, we're going ahead a little bit, but uh, when cory haim in the bathtub, when he was singing that song, I remember like trying because you, I couldn't just jump on the internet what song was it I ain't got a home that one

Speaker 3: 11:40

oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, but um yeah I remember my sister and I would love that song, like we'd always sing it, but we'd always ask my dad like he's like I don't know what the hell you're talking, what song, yeah? So you couldn't like I couldn't just jump on a computer like look it up right away and some shit and google it because I have a phone, then you know what I mean?

Speaker 2: 11:54

right, yeah, not yet I don't even think I had a computer yet no, I didn't no well, hell, at this point, nobody even knows what the hell you're talking about yeah, true, we'll get there we will in fact. Let's get there, shall we? Yeah, yeah let's ride.

Speaker 2: 12:08

All right, canyon arrow all right. A knight at the boardwalk introduces us to a group of troublemakers harassing a young couple on a merry-go-round at the carnival. The remainder of the night doesn't bode well for the policeman who broke up that scuffle. After being chased by an unseen assailant, he's whisked away into the night sky. Welcome to Santa Carla, vampire capital of the world. According to the graffiti on the back of a local billboard, amongst the town's tourists and boardwalk attractions are dozens of missing person leaflets posted around town. As the landscape unfolds, we're introduced to michael emerson and his younger brother, sam, along with their divorced mother, lucy. The three are moving to santa carla to live with lucy's father, an eccentric but wise old man whose house resembles a cluttered rustic hunting cabin with a kitchen attached to it that opening scene there on the boardwalk and stuff, like I'm so used to our boardwalk on ocean city.

Speaker 1: 13:08

Like east east coast boardwalks, like that boardwalk had a different vibe out there on the west coast.

Speaker 2: 13:14

Maybe that was one part of it too, like it just seemed more fun and less cold yeah, well, actually I think it's probably more cold, it's a weird group of people out there like so I remember going to california, like venice beach or any one of them out there, uh, hermosa beach. You just have these, the people that look like that. And I say that that look like that, because that's that style. You don't see that. Look on the on the east coast.

Speaker 1: 13:38

You just never did definitely in the 80s in ocean city was like a family oriented. Now you'd go down there, maybe see some wild shit, um. But back in the 80s and ocean city was like a family oriented. Now you'd go down there and maybe see some wild shit, um, but back in the 80s ocean city was kind of like clean and very nice and there was no didn't seem to be a bad element going on there in ocean city. So, uh, this boardwalk looked like it had some bad shit going on.

Speaker 3: 13:58

You know what I mean right off the bat in in um like late 70s, 80s, even in the mid 80s I think if people were trying to make it, they'd go out to california like in la figure they can't make it in la.

Speaker 1: 14:10

They still liked where they were at, they could be who they were and like you moved all over, like, and then you go down like more southern california, northern california but that's why I think they had such a mix of like wacky not to say they were weird or anything, but just you can be yourself down there and be weird and strange and okay and it's acceptable, absolutely yeah, in 87, though, it was uh, that was like definitely more like a counterculture going on, like you know, for now, nowadays it's just like I said, ocean city, even for that matter.

Speaker 2: 14:37

They got some wild shit going on, but it was definitely uh, the west coast was a little different I was reminded a bit of the karate kid as they're pulling into town, into their, with their, their what was it? A Jeep.

Speaker 1: 14:49

That was a Toyota, uh land cruiser.

Speaker 2: 14:52

Wait, no, wait, wait, wait, wait. That was theirs was a land cruiser.

Speaker 1: 14:56

Yeah, the family, the Emersons.

Speaker 2: 14:58

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 14:58

Yeah, they were in a Toyota FJ, like a 68 Land Cruiser.

Speaker 2: 15:01

Okay, that's one of the fun facts. That's right, grandpa had a nice ride too.

Speaker 1: 15:06

Yeah, because actually that thing's still running.

Speaker 2: 15:08

Nice.

Speaker 1: 15:08

Yeah, I'm sure.

Speaker 2: 15:09

Still reminded of the karate kid that was there driving into town. They just got this. You know they're packing they were from jersey.

Speaker 1: 15:22

No, they're from phoenix, but arizona okay, uh, macho man, I was gonna say macho. Where'd I get that from?

Speaker 3: 15:27

karate kid.

Speaker 1: 15:28

Yeah karate kid was from jersey. Indeed, he was macho, that's macho man.

Speaker 2: 15:34

It was nice watching this as well as they're. Before we move into the next segment in this particular one, they get to the house and they're talking to Grandpa. He asks him about the mailing. Looking around the house, he asks if he's seen the TV guide.

Speaker 1: 15:46

Yes, I wrote that down too, the TV guide how I miss the TV guide.

Speaker 2: 15:52

That was good reading. I came up broke so we didn't get the TV guide. We got the free one that came in the Patriot.

Speaker 1: 15:58

News. The TV Weekly, the free one, that came in the Patriot News the TV Weekly. Yeah, we would get TV host that was another version. That was the thing absolutely, it was a little bigger.

Speaker 3: 16:06

They would always end up from out of the TV room in the bathroom, though, yeah, you would never find the TV guide. That's another thing for these kids growing up. There was no phone to take with you to the bathroom. You had to grab reading material.

Speaker 2: 16:18

Grandpa's excuse. Well, you read the TV guide. That way I don't need to watch the show, and just read about it.

Speaker 1: 16:23

Hell yeah, I wrote down some things from the beginning of this too, so, uh, very off the bat. The lost boys on the carousel, the one dude reminded me of an MTV VJ.

Speaker 2: 16:38

And I think it might've out here no do it. He's actually considered the podfather.

Speaker 1: 16:41

The podfather yes, yeah.

Speaker 3: 16:42

Number one guy, isn't he like 70-something?

Speaker 1: 16:46

Probably in his 60s. I bet yeah, I wouldn't-. I saw someone an.

Speaker 3: 16:50

MTV VJ. They said was 72. I forget what the name was. It just popped up on like Facebook or something like that Carousel coming around.

Speaker 1: 16:57

It actually kind of reminded me of the band Poison too Sure. Their look Absolutely With the leather jacket and stuff.

Speaker 2: 17:02

Absolutely. That was the four of them together. They should have been. They could have easily been an 80s band.

Speaker 3: 17:08

Mm-hmm. Well, that's what the whole scene like, that whole it looked like every mid-80s, like heavy metal type Like a video.

Speaker 1: 17:16

It did.

Speaker 3: 17:16

It looked like every video on MTV at the time.

Speaker 1: 17:18

Could have been round and round A rat. That's a rat Going on the carousel. Also, the grandfather looked like Riley Martin. If any of you watched Howard Stern or listened to Howard Stern, riley Martin is a character on there. He was dressed just like Riley Martin, so look that up if you don't know who Riley Martin is. And then also the curl bar Ready as soon as they get to grandpa's house the uh, the curl bar is in the kitchen yeah, and we all had that curl bar, I think as kids absolutely older brothers.

Speaker 1: 17:43

They're curling. They got like 10 pound weights on each other those sand filled uh plastic they were sand filled plastic weights you got a curls for the girls. You know what?

Speaker 2: 17:52

I mean curls for the girls all right. Well, that night michael and sam attend a town-wide party at the beach along the boardwalk, complete with a live band and unmistakable 1980s dancing. It's love at first sight when Michael is smitten by Star, a hot young local, dancing in her devilishly desirous ways. Lucy, who's also out for a stroll along the boardwalk, finds her way to a local video store. There she meets Max, the owner, and his dog Lauren.

Speaker 2: 18:27

The group of troublemakers we'd seen at the beginning of the movie come and go from the video store, but not without a stern warning from Max, who'd told them previously to stay out of his establishment. Back at the boardwalk party with Michael, now in hot pursuit of the hot star, sam finds his way to a comic book shop owned by the Frog Brothers, edgar and Alan. Later in the night, the young couple who were being harassed in the beginning of the movie on the merry-go-round suffer the same fate as the policemen the roof of their car is ripped off and both are whisked away into the night sky yeah, that, uh, we were talking about that, that band playing, that's the tim capello tim capello so on tim capello, holy shit, so nope, there is no doubt.

Speaker 2: 19:13

As soon as I see this guy singing, I'm reminded immediately of brutus the barber beefcake from wwf days with, uh, a saxophone. Yeah, he just has longer hair. Capello does instead of brutus the Barber Beefcake from WWF days with a saxophone.

Speaker 3: 19:21

Yeah, he just has longer hair. Capello does instead of Brutus the Barber.

Speaker 1: 19:25

He definitely had a wrestler. Look, and I even wrote that down before we even started talking about this we were all on the same page. Great minds think alike.

Speaker 3: 19:31

Yeah for sure, and I liked when Corey Haim goes into the comic book store, the Frog Brothers are dressed like you know, like kind of military style.

Speaker 1: 19:42

That was the thing for sure.

Speaker 2: 19:46

And then Haim kind of looked like Zack Morris from like Saved by the Bell Dude, I have that written down too. Sam's clothes, so he's wearing this oversized button-down shirt with a very oversized blazer over top of it, or a sport coat or shit.

Speaker 3: 19:58

The sport coat with the shoulder pads.

Speaker 1: 20:02

Huge shoulder pads Like come on and you got to push the sleeves up, so it balls up real big.

Speaker 3: 20:05

You know what I mean but then then the frog brothers, they were kind of like he's, he's okay because he knew about the comics. He's like you don't put like a superman 5 with uh, whatever 8 series, and they were like, oh, okay that's what I was laughing at.

Speaker 1: 20:15

Like you get cred, you go in there.

Speaker 3: 20:17

They're like sizing you up sure, yeah, what's his like preppy, you know, whatever they think. What's he doing in here?

Speaker 1: 20:22

and then he starts spitting facts like all right, he's cool, then he's like yeah, I thought that was a cool part.

Speaker 3: 20:26

Then they're like okay, you're all right, you need to read this comic and he handed him a.

Speaker 2: 20:29

Thing about the vampires. He knew this. Comics is right. The. Uh, anyone take notice of the? As what's lucy's walking around? She sees, though, the woman is posting another one of those missing person leaflets. In this case it's the. Clearly it's the worried wife of the now missing policeman that was whisked away at the very beginning, like so she's put. Yeah, she's putting up the poster of like where's my, where's my husband, the policeman oh wow, I didn't catch that uh, yeah I had a question too.

Speaker 1: 20:54

Did you guys notice cory hame sneakers? They were like the purple and yellow converse. Was that a lakers? Was that like that, like?

Speaker 3: 20:59

a magic. That was a Lakers. That was a magic Magic Johnson sneaker Because, remember, the Larry Birds were the green and white, so they were the magic sneakers. The magics were the purple and yellow.

Speaker 1: 21:05

Because I felt like he had his own sneaker then at one point.

Speaker 3: 21:08

Who Corey Haim?

Speaker 1: 21:14

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 21:14

Corey Haim the Haims, they were jell.

Speaker 1: 21:16

They didn't have a logo on it.

Speaker 2: 21:18

So they sure did. There's a Chuck Taylor which is not what you're talking about. That's not, no it was their signature brand Like a high top. It was a high top, puffier Yep.

Speaker 3: 21:29

Larry Bird, magic Johnson and Akeem Olajuwon, because they had the red and white.

Speaker 1: 21:34

Atlanta Falcons the dream. Yeah, Atlanta Hogs. But I thought Magic had like his own logo or something.

Speaker 2: 21:39

No, he was Converse. Nope, that's Michael the Jordan.

Speaker 1: 21:42

Yeah, I know, jordan had that, obviously Obviously Because he was supposed to go to Converse Jordan?

Speaker 3: 21:46

because they were the ones, because or was it Adidas?

Speaker 1: 21:49

I think Adidas, adidas, it was a big one.

Speaker 3: 21:51

He wanted to go to Adidas because he liked Adidas, because of like the shells, and it was, yeah, but I gotta, you know, cory haim sneakers.

Speaker 1: 21:58

I don't know.

Speaker 3: 21:58

I gotta look that up and like nike was running, I think and that's why he's like I don't want to be nike, that's a running shoe, but look what happened yeah, two more things I wanted to point out that we've gotten so far in this movie.

Speaker 2: 22:08

One is alex winter's hair. So alex was, that was bill from bill and ted's excellent adventure, yes yes, foreshadow so foreshadows right. So that hair was awful. You could tell that was some kind of clip on mullet. Marco, oh yeah, for sure that was just a clip on just in the back mullet that he wanted because he had to support longer hair. I'm guessing in a short amount of time.

Speaker 1: 22:32

Right.

Speaker 2: 22:32

Cause I'm thinking I don't want to do a chicken and the egg thing, but I think Bill and Ted's excellent adventure came out before this.

Speaker 1: 22:41

No.

Speaker 3: 22:41

I think it was after. It was after, I think, 88.

Speaker 1: 22:44

Okay, yeah, it was either like right during or after, I don't know.

Speaker 2: 22:48

Now I'm thinking Either way. That hair was fake as hell. It was again just for Alex, not to be confused with the one that looks like Adam Curry. That hair was real as hell and blown out as hell.

Speaker 1: 22:58

You know it definitely was after this, because I remember one of the fun facts was the only other movie he was in before this was Death Wish 3. Okay, which? Charles Bronson, I'm assuming.

Speaker 3: 23:08

Yeah, where was Edward Herman? His face is so.

Speaker 2: 23:13

Well, you would know him certainly as the husband from Overboard.

Speaker 3: 23:18

Yes. There it is, yes, there it is he's all dancing with, like the three girls.

Speaker 1: 23:23

that's right after goldie hawn goes missing he's having a great time, so wait tofutti. Edward herman, as max max was the max was max. Was goldie hawn's husband from no no but in this movie, yes, he was a loving, not giving anything away.

Speaker 3: 23:37

He was lucy's. She was kind of into him. He was the shop owner, yeah, he was the one like force, like the reverse foreshadowing, where he's like get out of my store, bad kids he was the one dressed like oingo boingo yes, I think they're all. There was an oingo boingo thing.

Speaker 2: 23:50

and another thing I wanted to point out in this is I got so tired of and I think that's probably what turned me off to this movie years ago, when I was watching it the first or second time Corey Feldman's voice. He tries to talk so deep. Oh man, you better get yourself a garlic.

Speaker 3: 24:08

T-shirt pal yeah.

Speaker 1: 24:10

I know, what you're saying, the.

Speaker 3: 24:12

Oingo Boingo reference. That's Dead Man's Party. Remember back to school.

Speaker 1: 24:15

They actually had a cameo in there.

Speaker 3: 24:18

Yeah, that was a good jam. Yep, that's another one we could cover. Did we do that?

Speaker 1: 24:20

one, yet Not yet.

Speaker 2: 24:21

Not, yet we sure can. The triple lending yeah, the triple lending was something special. Yeah, it was Okay. Moving along, the next morning Sam returns to the Frog Brothers comic shop. The Frog Brothers aren't just comic book salesmen. They are devoted to a higher purpose truth, justice, the American way and eliminating the supernatural that have infiltrated the town. They give Sam a comic book about vampires. That night, michael's in search of Star. Again, he finds her accompanied by the same group of hoodlums we've seen intermittently since the beginning, who were led by a man named david. David swiftly invites michael into the fold of the gang and they make their way to the gang's hideout as part of his initiation into their throng mike are you?

Speaker 2: 25:14

familiar with that term, matt.

Speaker 3: 25:15

Yes, yes, yeah that's what I was thinking. Let me see that throng. Oh, what's his name?

Speaker 2: 25:20

cisco, that's it all right, uh, into the fold of the gang. They make their way to the gang's hideout initiation into the throng. Michael accepts and drinks from a bottle. He believes the liquid to be some sort of wine, but it's actually blood.

Speaker 3: 25:37

Meanwhile, sam begins his education about the undead as he delves into his comic book yeah, star was trying to like let him know she's like no, michael, you don't have to, it's blood, it's blood. Yeah, sure, it's blood yeah, how do you like them? Noodles, michael?

Speaker 2: 25:51

yeah, so they were like yeah, what do you call that phrase? Matt, fake truth or some shit?

Speaker 3: 25:56

truth, lie, truth, lie, that's it.

Speaker 2: 25:57

So he had, up until this point he had been duped twice with the Chinese food, once with the rice that was maggots and once that was worms. It was actually low main. So now it's wow, fool me once, fool me twice, you're not going to get me a third time.

Speaker 3: 26:11

I'm going to drink.

Speaker 1: 26:12

No, it's blood. Yeah right, I don't know I'd be drinking, eating anything off these cats. Then he almost like try to run them off a cliff, like five minutes earlier.

Speaker 3: 26:22

That's correct, yeah, but they were just being kids, man.

Speaker 2: 26:25

They got really friendly really quickly yeah.

Speaker 3: 26:28

In the 80s too. All the bad kids always have motorcycles.

Speaker 2: 26:32

Dirt bikes yeah, dirt bikes is like a thing. Again, Karate Kid comes back.

Speaker 1: 26:39

I did like on the back of Kiefer's dirt bike. The brake light was like an iron cross.

Speaker 3: 26:42

Yeah, that was pretty cool, looking Like an independent truck company.

Speaker 1: 26:46

Yes.

Speaker 3: 26:47

Or Santa.

Speaker 2: 26:47

Cruz. Yeah, santa Cruz, which we learned is Mexican for Holy Cross.

Speaker 1: 26:51

Holy Cross. Ah yeah, that makes sense, okay.

Speaker 2: 26:55

So in this part, at this point, what we've seen so far, there is a scene that happens in Sam's bedroom. Yes, so this is Sam being Corey Haim Mm-hmm. He has on the door of his closet a poster of Rob Lowe.

Speaker 1: 27:15

Right, yes, we were talking about that earlier.

Speaker 2: 27:17

Why in the hell does a boy have a poster of another boy or another dude? Why does a dude have a poster of another dude?

Speaker 1: 27:25

but posed like that, yeah, like that, look we got a poster, a winger down here.

Speaker 2: 27:31

That's a whole different world, it's different yeah maybe, maybe not for him.

Speaker 3: 27:35

Maybe he was like in the like movies or something.

Speaker 1: 27:38

It is rob, low or dudes right and it was in on the closet that's like foreshadowing they were trying to, yeah, and, and they were actually in the closet. There were people saying trying to tie that to his character, and joel schumacher is openly gay oh, so that's, that's why they were putting the stuff like so they were. They asked him about.

Speaker 3: 27:57

He's like he loves the boys yeah, he was like.

Speaker 1: 27:59

no, I didn, he loves the boys.

Speaker 3: 28:00

Yeah, he was like no, I didn't Bring me the boys he said I didn't put that poster in there for that reason.

Speaker 1: 28:04

He said I put it in there because I guess he had just I don't know if he worked on St Elmo's Fire or one of the other movies.

Speaker 3: 28:09

Oh, with Lowe, and Rob Lowe was big at the timetones yeah yeah, like, like to me.

Speaker 1: 28:21

I was like, oh wait a minute, but there's fan theories ago. Oh well, look the way he dressed. He was always much better dressed than the other boys he was the trendiest, most flamboyant dresser sam right in the earring and all that yep.

Speaker 2: 28:33

But who knows? Look, not for nothing. I think there was. I. I see the undertones, I think what's his name?

Speaker 1: 28:39

joel schumacher put it in there and yeah, yeah rob.

Speaker 3: 28:42

Rob low is a handsome guy, though he's extremely handsome.

Speaker 2: 28:45

He hasn't changed in 30 years he still looks good. He still looks the same. He will thank the atkins diet for that maybe he's a vampire oh could be.

Speaker 1: 28:53

Maybe that's what the symbolism is. He's a vampire.

Speaker 2: 28:56

There's something we don't know he hasn't aged, yeah, not a bit. Um, let's see oh the uh in this scene. So in all of the, the harassing or the initiation between, yeah, between the, the maggots and the, the worms now that he drank the blood again, as, as matt had mentioned. You know, didn't these guys just try to drive one another off of a cliff earlier on their bikes? Now, all of a sudden, they're all buddy buddy hanging out and the michael ends his night by dangling from a railroad bridge yeah like dude.

Speaker 2: 29:26

How did you guys become so friendly and so trusting, just like that?

Speaker 3: 29:29

come on, michael but uh, no, he michael was, he was in love man star just got him. He's like, if I hang with these guys, if I show I'm cool, that's all it was he had his eyes on the prize. It was peacocking man and he was like, if I can show star that, I'm just as cool. Plus, he was wondering you guys got this cool ass hangout stars living down there with you. Like, who is she even dating?

Speaker 1: 29:50

I don't even know, it was a weird vibe. Yeah, can I get a?

Speaker 2: 29:53

piece of that action what was the story of that hangout?

Speaker 3: 29:56

it was a used to be an old hotel. Earthquake an earthquake, Earthquake.

Speaker 1: 29:58

It dropped down below, so now it's ours. One other thing back to his room. You're talking about the poster, but one other thing I noticed in there Did you guys have one of those swatch watch?

Speaker 3: 30:07

Yes on the wall.

Speaker 2: 30:08

I had that. Was that a swatch? That was a swatch. Yes, 100% that was a swatch.

Speaker 1: 30:12

And it was actually a full size, like 10 times bigger watch you would hang on your wall back in the 80s With the strap.

Speaker 3: 30:20

They also had the cool Jim Morrison poster from their little lair.

Speaker 1: 30:25

That was cool.

Speaker 2: 30:27

The cover of that song was done. Wait, is anybody going to be talking about the soundtrack?

Speaker 3: 30:31

No, you can talk about it anytime you want.

Speaker 2: 30:33

So the cover of that for this movie, I should say the People Are Strange, was covered by Echo and the Bunnymen Good band. They did a great, a great job on that, I think yeah, I thought it was a good cover.

Speaker 3: 30:44

I don't know I you know, did they give michael a little bit of the weed? Was it like here, michael I?

Speaker 2: 30:49

wasn't sure if that was a cigarette or if that was a weed cigarette. I think it was the weed, the weed.

Speaker 3: 30:54

They were trying to see if he was cool, if he like, drank wine and smoked the weed.

Speaker 1: 30:57

They're on the pot, yeah well, they did reference uh earlier when, when they showed up at the grandfather's house that he was growing weed outside because he said to cory amy was like hey look like he's like grandpa's growing weed out back yep, yeah, but michael, he couldn't get his mind off star, so he just he had to be in the group, and can you blame him?

Speaker 3: 31:14

no, not at all, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2: 31:15

He had a bit, although I, I don't know, not for nothing. I think she could have used bigger jugs yeah michael was shooting a shot man. That's all there was to it I'm not saying, look, obviously she's not ugly. I just think she would have been better had she had you know yeah, better bosoms.

Speaker 2: 31:29

Well, if she wants to buy some, she sure can, she sure can oh, at this point, by the way, we're now we're seeing these guys all hanging out in the again they were at the hell stars, even walking around with him at the carnival right. At any point is anyone questioning what's with this little boy? It's, yeah, that's, hanging around like at first, you see it. Maybe it's like stars, little brother maybe, but this kid's just hanging around. He sure is hanging around late night yeah, what's up with that kid was?

Speaker 3: 31:57

147 years old.

Speaker 2: 31:59

Yeah, that boy was 137 years old. He ain't never met no old young boy. You ain't never met no Martin Luther the King. All right. Poster of Rob Lowe young boy. Okay, we're good, moving on. The next morning, michael awakens to find himself irritated by sunlight Brushing it off. He's been tasked to spend the day and evening with Sam, while Lucy is to go to dinner with Max. That night, michael's transformation continues. Unknowingly, he finds himself compelled with bloodlust to attack his own brother. It's only thanks to Sam's dog, nanook, that Michael is brought to his senses. Michael and sam discover that michael's reflection in the mirror is now translucent and that michael can now levitate. He's becoming a creature of the night. Michael returns to the gang's hideout to find star alone. Hey, now the two make sweet, sweet love and Michael returns home. The next morning, lucy makes her way to Max's house to offer an apology for their date having been cut short the night before, but only finds herself viciously attacked by Max's dog when she attempts to approach the house. The hounds of hell.

Speaker 1: 33:16

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 33:16

The hounds of hell are right.

Speaker 1: 33:18

So that sex scene? That's where we hear that song Cry Little Sister, cry Little Sister, cry Little Sister. We do a little group text when we're talking about what we're going to cover. What do you guys want to do? What's coming up next? And Matt said, hey, lost Boys. And Zap responds with Cry Little Sister or something else.

Speaker 2: 33:37

And I'm like oh, I said thou shalt not lie, cry, little Sister, the notes, yeah. And I'm like oh, I said thou shalt not lie, cry little sister.

Speaker 1: 33:41

So I forgot about it. I didn't. It didn't really register with me when you sent it. I was like I want to look that up because obviously a reference manson covered it charles manson maryland, oh, charles manson covered it also a musician also a musician, yeah, so that was a reference to this song that's during this, uh, this scene, which I found out, uh, fun fact, is one of the two songs from this movie that the lead singer of, corn, john davis, is his favorite.

Speaker 2: 34:07

Two of his favorite songs yep, yeah, the other one is the one by the, by the, the saxophone player, oh, for real.

Speaker 3: 34:14

Yeah, that song yeah he's a big lost boys fan, I take it he must be yeah well, he was out on the west coast at that time.

Speaker 2: 34:23

What is it? It's I Believe in Something I believe in.

Speaker 3: 34:25

I still believe.

Speaker 2: 34:26

I still believe. Thank you, and. Life After Love. That's it no.

Speaker 3: 34:30

So anyway.

Speaker 1: 34:31

Let's share.

Speaker 3: 34:31

So, star, oh, you're saying Believe in Love, god damn.

Speaker 1: 34:36

Dave, goddamn Dave, life after life.

Speaker 3: 34:38

Something about Cher she's dating some 30-year-old dude.

Speaker 2: 34:41

Well look at it, everything's coming back. Gay Dude Cher is hugely popular amongst the gay population. Oh for sure.

Speaker 1: 34:49

Huge.

Speaker 2: 34:50

Definitely I'm bouncing off of the concept of Rob Lowe's poster on the thing Corey Haim dressing all preppy All.

Speaker 3: 34:59

Zach Morrissey.

Speaker 2: 35:02

Zach Morrissey, not to be confused with morrissey right, he's asexual, oh interesting, I don't have. Is that all sexual?

Speaker 3: 35:11

all sexual nice yeah, michael, uh, he goes to attack sam sam's in the bathtub singing that amazing song. So we ain't got no home one. The nook stops him, and we know Star's pretty easy when you're like a vampire.

Speaker 2: 35:26

That is exactly what's happened so far Easy stop.

Speaker 3: 35:29

Easy. Where's the little boy when all this is going on? He's missing.

Speaker 2: 35:34

He's missing somewhere. But I can tell you, oh fun fact in this scene, what we had just gone through the Michael is trying to drink milk, or he goes to take a drink of milk and he gets a stomach pain and he drops the carton of milk on the ground. That carton of milk has a picture.

Speaker 1: 35:51

Yeah, who was that on there?

Speaker 2: 35:53

The boy, oh, the little boy, the little boy that was walking around with Star.

Speaker 1: 35:56

Oh, okay, I didn't catch that Little things little things All right.

Speaker 2: 35:59

Well, sam is piecing the puzzle together. He believes that max is the head vampire and is the cause for all of the recent problems. He also believes that, since his brother hasn't killed anyone yet, his brother can be saved. He enlists the help of the frog brothers. That night, max has been invited over to lucy's home for dinner. The frog brothers arrive to help sam expose max as the head vampire, but their attempts fail as Sam passes all of their rudimentary tests.

Speaker 3: 36:29

He's like you need a little more garlic on that.

Speaker 2: 36:31

Yeah right.

Speaker 1: 36:31

He's like oh, this is horrible.

Speaker 3: 36:33

What's wrong? Oh, it's garlic.

Speaker 2: 36:36

So, yeah, he offers Parmesan cheese, but really it's garlic. Meanwhile, David reveals to Michael that he and his gang are in fact, vampires, and that Michael need only kill to truly become one of them. Is it David who is the head vampire? Michael wants nothing to do with it and returns home. For Sam's help, Star follows him to the house and informs him that it's not too late for him or her to avoid becoming full-fledged vampires. They need only avoid killing. Star also reveals to him that David had intended for him to be her first victim.

Speaker 1: 37:14

It seems like in all movies all the time like kids are always trying to cock block anytime, like a parent's divorce Sure, and they're like. You know what I'm saying Every time. They act like an ass at dinner.

Speaker 3: 37:23

Yeah, and then the person leaves, so he has always dinner.

Speaker 1: 37:25

It's just always in movies. That's how it goes.

Speaker 3: 37:27

You're not my dad.

Speaker 1: 37:28

It's usually yeah, it's usually the mom that's trying to hook up, and then the kids ruin it. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2: 37:34

Fun fact in this little segment we had just discussed. This includes the scene where they're at the beach. The vampires, the, the vampires the, the four vampire gang and Mike and Michael are hanging out at the beach and this is where the vampires come full-on. Like everybody is now essentially out of the closet right, so they're all vamping out. You know fangs everywhere. They're attacking everybody on the beach. Fun fact this is Alex winters favorite scene. He loved it. Love to read that mullet and all, yeah, the mull Clip on mullet.

Speaker 3: 38:06

Is that the part where they attack the bonfire?

Speaker 2: 38:08

Correct.

Speaker 3: 38:10

Yeah, they go fully vamp out.

Speaker 1: 38:11

Run DMC was playing and all that that's not on the soundtrack, which I always thought. If it's in the movie, is that not on the soundtrack?

Speaker 3: 38:19

I think they have to give their Wait. They would have gave the right to use the. In the movie In the movie but maybe not on the soundtrack. Maybe you got to buy our tape to listen to that song instead of being on the soundtrack Possibly. I thought he made their money back then.

Speaker 1: 38:32

Now it's just going to concerts In Juice, I think it was, or one of the ones we covered, like Cypress Hill. One song was on and it wasn't on the soundtrack.

Speaker 3: 38:41

Yep that happens kill a man. That happens all the time. Yeah, buy my album, not that album that makes that's a good idea.

Speaker 1: 38:47

I didn't think of that. That's probably why it makes sense.

Speaker 2: 38:50

We could have made money 30 years ago with that kind of knowledge yeah let's see, ah, the next day, michael sam and the frog brothers make their way to the vampire gang's lair.

Speaker 2: 39:05

I like what you said there vampire gang's lair yeah, while michael tends to star and laddie laddie's the name of that little boy sam and the frog brothers find the gang of vampires sleeping. They kill one but awaken the others in the process. The boys, along with Star and Laddie, escape and return home. All are fearful of the retribution they will face from the vampires by the day's end. Sam and the Frog Brothers prepare for the inevitable by barricading themselves in Sam's house and filling squirt guns with garlic-infused holy water.

Speaker 3: 39:42

Also another cool scene they kill Marco. That's Bill or Ted. One of the excellent adventure guys.

Speaker 2: 39:46

They stake him, marco. They stake him alright. Blood's everywhere. All the vampires wake up. But, interesting, all the vampires end up going back to sleep. Like they chase the boys out, like the boys escape, obviously, from the vampires. This whole place is just one big coffin, corey Feldman, I don't know. They go back in and go to sleep. Why didn't the boys just come back and kill them one by one?

Speaker 1: 40:12

When they were out. Why were they covered in glitter too, the boys? Did you notice that on the beach?

Speaker 2: 40:16

I have a feeling. Okay, you're saying I know, I actually know that is a fun fact.

Speaker 1: 40:22

Oh, is it a fun fact? Okay, we'll get to that. Yeah, no.

Speaker 2: 40:24

I can tell you right now Go for it. The blood, the fake blood that was used in this movie was mixed with glitter to make it shimmer more, given the low light. So whenever light would hit it it would make it shimmer and it gives you that Shimmery shine. Well, the thought of it's it's extra special blood, or it's extra special weird because it's in a vampire, it came out of a vampire, or they're vampires drinking it, or some kind of shit like that.

Speaker 1: 40:50

yeah, the fake blood was mixed with glitter so that's why they look like they were out of a strip club or something. There you go, strip club all day, blue glitter, all like. You know what I mean. That's how, when you come home, you know funny story with that no, dave, I don't know. What do you mean by that?

Speaker 3: 41:03

You know, no, I found some of that antibacterial stuff, but it was like from a bath and body.

Speaker 1: 41:09

Yes, with the glitter, it's like vanilla.

Speaker 3: 41:12

Yeah, I was at a thing this week and I was looking at my hands. They're all sparkling.

Speaker 1: 41:17

Covered with it. Yeah, it always was like vanilla peach or something. Yeah, something Just awful.

Speaker 3: 41:26

But this part here in the movie that also had the iconic scene of keifer sutherland where he gets the tear in his eye because he goes to reach out but the sun shining yeah, and his hand gets burned and they just go to him and they show the tear. Yeah, you're like oh shit's gonna hit the fan now, yeah you don't make that

Speaker 3: 41:36

no, the tear from he was. His hand was burning and he wanted so bad to go out there and kill the guy that just killed marco uh, so he was crying because he couldn't, and then he went and he, just like, had the one, the one tear. Thou shalt not cry. Cry little sister, or no, or no, he was just upset that his buddy just got killed Marco's dead and he just burned his hand, but he's going to go kill some people now.

Speaker 2: 41:57

He's very upset, fun fact Kiefer, when he filmed this movie.

Speaker 3: 42:03

Ah, that's right. I thought he was like 19 or 20, but yeah, 17.

Speaker 1: 42:06

He was 17?.

Speaker 3: 42:06

He's only 17. He's coming back around God he looked older than that.

Speaker 2: 42:10

Dude.

Speaker 1: 42:11

That's crazy.

Speaker 2: 42:11

And he had just come off of filming. Stand by.

Speaker 1: 42:14

Me who has a five o'clock shadow like at a 17? Wait, yeah he wasn't 17.

Speaker 3: 42:17

He was 20, I thought, let's do.

Speaker 2: 42:21

Look, I don't know what his birthday was, but my understanding was that he was 17. I'm happy to be wrong, Because I mean, if he was that young, God bless him, so he would have been born in 70, then yeah, or 69. 69. That could be right Either way. One more thing in this.

Speaker 3: 42:40

Oh, so the he was born 1966. Oh, okay, december of 1966.

Speaker 2: 42:45

Well then, I clearly misread a little blurb about this. Joel Schumacher was mentioning his. He was supposed to be playing a 17-year-old In the movie maybe. There it is Okay, because he was 20.

Speaker 3: 42:58

I mean still. He had a huge 5 o'clock shadow for.

Speaker 2: 43:00

But playing the part of a 17-year-old.

Speaker 3: 43:02

That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, they were all high school kids, because like um, like he had like a like I know I shaved in high school.

Speaker 1: 43:08

I mean most of us did, but to get like a beard like that, yeah, that's impressive. I know a couple dudes, yeah, but I don't think I shaved in high school. It was still thin, you didn't, I did, I had to there's the, the, the sacrilegious part of this scene.

Speaker 2: 43:22

Where they're? They're prepping for the you knowdon, here the Frog Brothers are going to church and they're filling up canteens with holy water.

Speaker 3: 43:31

That was a good montage. I like that.

Speaker 2: 43:32

Yeah, that was very cool. Yeah, they're rolling around buying garlic filling up canteens with holy water Smashing the garlic, throwing it in the bathtub.

Speaker 1: 43:39

That's what this Corey Feldman's always on a mission he is.

Speaker 2: 43:46

Every movie on a mission, he is every movie he's in.

Speaker 1: 43:47

He's always like like goonies fucking uh the burbs, he's typecast. They're always like headbands and and mission.

Speaker 3: 43:50

Well, they wanted they wanted this movie was supposed to be. This is a quick fun fact. Was supposed to be like the goonies. Did you guys read that?

Speaker 1: 43:55

I didn't know that.

Speaker 3: 43:56

Yes, supposed and I think the the frog like. They were supposed to be like eight, nine year old kids and they're supposed to be like these 12, 13, 14 year olds that were like the gang I did hear that, yeah, I can see that in hindsight I can see this more like, or having, a goonies-esque yeah, because like the,

Speaker 3: 44:10

goonies those, those type of movies then were so big they were making all the money so they were trying to keep it like where all the kids want to go see it. Buy t-shirts, buy little like vampire dolls and shit like that.

Speaker 1: 44:20

Yep I think he said too he wanted to make it more sexual. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 44:24

Not sexual but sexy. Yeah, Pin up some Jamie Girtz. Yeah, to put Girtz in there.

Speaker 1: 44:29

So, making him older, you can make it a little more sexy $8 billion.

Speaker 2: 44:32

It worked $8 billion. All right, we're almost there. David and the remaining two members of the vampire gang arrive at Sam's house as expected. After breaking into the house, one of the gang members is melted in a tub of holy water and another is impaled and electrocuted Death by stereo. David is now the last remaining vampire and, after a mono-e-mono fight with Michael, he's impaled on a set of antlers. But nothing's changed. Michael remains vampirical. Is that a word, sure?

Speaker 2: 45:07

is that's awesome of or having to do with vampires vampires just then, max and lucy return to lucy's home and max reveals himself to be the head vampire. He passed the boys tests earlier because he'd been invited into their home.

Speaker 1: 45:23

Yes, yeah, trick you thereby you trick him.

Speaker 2: 45:25

Thereby rendering their tests useless. Max's plan all along was for David to transform Michael and Sam into vampires, thereby leaving Lucy no choice but to want to be converted herself. Just as Max is about to bite into Lucy's willing neck, grandpa arrives by crashing through one of the walls of the house in his land cruiser and impaling Max with a fence post. Max explodes and Michael Star and Laddie return to full human form, and if it's one thing about living in Santa Carla that Grandpa could never stomach, it's all the damn vampires, all them vampires.

Speaker 3: 46:05

Like Grandpa's horn was, like whatever that was.

Speaker 1: 46:08

That was actually an international harvester. The Land Cruiser was the. That was what the mom was driving. That's why I'd asked earlier. Yeah, yeah, so he was driving the international.

Speaker 2: 46:18

I was trying to figure out what vehicle that was and as I was reading through, I read again. It's like I thought keeper sutherland was 17.

Speaker 1: 46:25

For christ's sake no, but that I saw land cruise and it didn't seem like a toyota that the harvester was like, uh like, almost like a farm truck correct like you know what I mean big brute looking thing could almost be mistaken for like a large volkswagen thing. Yes, yeah, very much like that. Yeah, but um, yeah, I, I wrote down here at the end. I thought these vampires went down a little too easy. Yeah, I agree, you think that I?

Speaker 2: 46:48

wholeheartedly agree the fact that the one died look the fact in a bathtub against two little boys yeah the frog brothers come on and then the dog jumped and knocked.

Speaker 3: 46:58

I mean, I know it's a movie, but I'm like these are vampires that were like shredding people on the boardwalk flying around but I think if you get like a sneak attack like that, like you know what I mean, they went with their little clawy toes which were weird, like picked up the people yeah, they had like that bad fungi nail.

Speaker 2: 47:13

Yeah, it was real bad.

Speaker 3: 47:14

But I think they were kind of like newer vampires so maybe they would have been easier Like there wasn't like one of them old school crusty.

Speaker 1: 47:27

Yeah, right, when they got to uh the main dude, then it was a little bit harder, but even that went quick. I mean, I felt like the yeah, the uh, the ending scenes here which they had to wrap it up they're all.

Speaker 3: 47:32

They're all pretty much trying to bang star. I think that's all they were worried about.

Speaker 2: 47:35

It was look, they were cheesy endings. Right they were. I think they were half-hearted endings to the vampires lives. I think the vampires deserve better, build back better. Build back better that's right.

Speaker 1: 47:46

When I uh, when I saw this you know, watching it last night, and I mean I have the dvd, but I probably watched that. I don't know. I probably got that dvd 20 years ago. Sure, there was a movie that came out in between all that that had me like perk up at the scene where he goes uh, you have to invite me in. There was a movie called let Right One In, which is a great horror movie. It was first released over in Sweden or something, and it was subtitled and it's all about-.

Speaker 3: 48:12

Was that about a little girl in the apartment complex?

Speaker 1: 48:14

Yeah, that vampires have to be invited in. Yeah, and I never really knew that. I don't remember that I ever heard that back in the 80s about vampires. I remember something about it, something about it but I know I wouldn't have picked it up in this movie, uh, back then. But then hearing that after watching, let the right one in, yeah, as a, you know, 48 year old now, I'm like oh shit, yeah, he's probably is the he's the one but then at dinner they trick you because he's like max was a tricky little fucker.

Speaker 2: 48:40

Max shows up and he says well, michael, you're the man of the house, you'll need to invite me in. Yeah, I won't.

Speaker 3: 48:46

I'm sorry, I won't come in unless you invite me, unless you invite, said, come on in right, oh max, you tricky son of a bitch well he's been. See he, he was like, uh, like the head guy. He should have been a little harder to kill that's what I'm saying but it was. It was a sneak attack, though it wasn't like a real battle. How did the? He would have probably fucked some people up in a battle battle.

Speaker 2: 49:04

True. So, grandpa, I saw there's a scene when the boys go driving away in Grandpa's car earlier. They say hey, grandpa, we're going to borrow your car. It's when they go to Vampire City to go kill Bill Alex Winter. As they're driving away, you see Grandpa, as he's waving goodbye to them. He's sharpening the tops of the the fence posts.

Speaker 1: 49:24

Oh, he knows, and yeah.

Speaker 2: 49:26

So how did the fence post fly into max when he drives the international harvester through the front wall? Like, what did he? How did it like? Did I blink for a second? Like, or what did he? Mount them to the front of the car?

Speaker 1: 49:41

They were on the front, maybe when he, maybe when he ran over the fence coming in like they got stuck to the front. I don't know, maybe that's like I didn't really get that. Like I said, they kind of I think the end of this was thrown together so quickly.

Speaker 2: 49:52

It seemed pieced together, it really did.

Speaker 3: 49:54

That it was like oh let's kill them off the filming. What you said was what that's insane. Yeah, let's wrap this up.

Speaker 1: 50:03

We got to wrap it up and then Much like our podcast sometimes. Sometimes right right, but yeah, maybe that's it Zap, Maybe he ran it over, Maybe, but you would have to time that perfectly. It's a movie. Guys Suspend this belief.

Speaker 2: 50:17

Yeah, there was one other thing in this segment that I took notice to. That kind of stuck out to me as cheesy. And it's when a white guy tries to talk like a black guy back in the 80s. Uh, what do you say? The, the, so the brown haired, the soul, singular brown haired vampire, that, the one that gets electrocuted death by stereo. He says to sam at some point you know you better try harder or something.

Speaker 3: 50:40

Sucka, sucka he says sucka like you better try hard sucka, like I'm going to get you sucka.

Speaker 2: 50:46

Yeah, he's talking that it didn't seem he's talking that jive, Jive talk. He doesn't speak jive.

Speaker 1: 50:52

Yo man.

Speaker 3: 50:54

I don't think that's jive talk no.

Speaker 1: 51:12

All that jive. So, uh, I guess that's it for that it might be time for fun facts, hell yeah it's time for fun facts. I always like our little fun facts. Hell yeah, that's a good button. So who wants to start it?

Speaker 3: 51:17

off matt. Oh yeah, um, cory feldman. Actually you know how we were talking about and that was always like referencing to how he's like trying to talk like that yeah yeah, they were trying to tell him to act like sylvester stallone mixed with chuck norris that's why I got it. That's why they were directing him like that. So he's trying to.

Speaker 2: 51:31

This is what I'm talking about, so it's their fault. Yes, I got somebody's director air hmm, oh, speaking of, uh, that cory cory feldman, that dude almost didn't get the part. He showed up the first day of film and coming down off of a Coke binge.

Speaker 1: 51:48

Oh, really yeah.

Speaker 2: 51:49

Feldman yeah, he showed up coming down off a Coke or had been up all the night before and he was like messing up lines and doing whatever. And Joel Schumacher was like look man, you're out, you're fired, you're gone. And he was gone. Days go by and whomever had convinced him like, look, give him another chance, give him another chance. Or even maybe he was just on the horn with joel like, look, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I won't fuck up again. And he didn't, he was clean and fine.

Speaker 3: 52:13

the rest of the the rest of the he was what 14, 15 that's crazy. Hey, cocaine's a hell of a drug well, no, they were saying, um, there's all those movies and stuff out now about the kids when they were growing up, these young kids and stardom like they had them on drugs they were taking molly yeah they were. They were going to sex parties and shit at like 14, 15 doing drugs with uh producers.

Speaker 1: 52:32

It was a whole, a whole scene I vividly remember reading an article, or you know, I was probably like 12, 13 at the time with drew barrymore, who's around our age yeah, and she's 40, yeah, she's 48 she was on the cover of like people or something I don't know, and I remember thinking, wow, she's like beautiful, like I hadn't seen her since um, like poltergeist or et, when she was a little sister she was on 50 first dates no, but this is back when I'm like 13, oh gotcha she was an et and I remember looking like man.

Speaker 1: 53:04

She don't even look like my age, like she grew up. She looks so much older right and you get into the article and it was all about like the party she was going to her like alcohol addiction this and that I'm thinking this she's like my age, like who goes to parties, like. I remember thinking that as a kid, like because I was interested in the article, because I was like, oh, I remember her from that movie right she used to party with like punkunky Brewster.

Speaker 1: 53:25

Yeah, and I'm like, who hangs out with like 21-year-olds when you're 13, 14?

Speaker 2: 53:28

years old. They did, but they do in Hollywood, so they didn't cry.

Speaker 1: 53:30

Yeah she was another one later on.

Speaker 3: 53:33

I think she got a reduction. Yeah, she looked good. Punky Brewster yeah, Punky Brewster.

Speaker 1: 53:39

But yeah, these kids grow up quick. So I have a fun fact here on Santa Cruz which, like we said where they filmed it, actually was considered the murder capital of the world at one point because of three men there in the early 70s that were doing some killing had John Lindsay Frazier, Herbert Mullen and Edmund Kemper, who I'd like to cover someday. Yeah, Edmund Kemper, yeah, yeah, yeah, On the podcast they 28 murders over 30 months, between 70 and 73.

Speaker 2: 54:06

Dang. So it was all in that area there so that's in reference to in the beginning part of the movie when they first show up, when the, the two boys show up with their, with lucy and the, I guess it's sam who says to his grandfather hey, isn't this the murder capital of the world?

Speaker 1: 54:20

ah, okay, yep, so that actually really was legit for that area at one time I know um schumacher, shoemaker, schumacher, right the director.

Speaker 3: 54:29

He wanted a blonde to be the part of Jamie Girtz's.

Speaker 1: 54:33

Yes, I did hear about that.

Speaker 3: 54:34

But there was a movie. Jason Patrick was actually like you need to get this Jamie Girtz girl. There was Solar Babies. You guys remember that.

Speaker 2: 54:40

Yep, no, is that a movie?

Speaker 3: 54:41

It's a movie, yeah, it's a movie and, uh, he was like you need to. You need to check out this jamie girtz girl.

Speaker 1: 54:45

I think she'd be perfect and sounds like an 80s toy solar babies, like something you'd get put on the sun babies. Yeah, water, dreams come true you had water, put them in on your, like windowsill I like the muppet babies reference.

Speaker 2: 54:58

Thank you, zap. Uh, yeah uh, solar babies was 86 I'm pretty sure I.

Speaker 3: 55:04

I like adventure, I like romance, I love great jokes, animal dance, yep.

Speaker 1: 55:09

What's that from Muppet babies? Oh shit.

Speaker 3: 55:12

I used to watch that before I went to school in the morning.

Speaker 1: 55:13

That must've came on after jelly bears.

Speaker 3: 55:16

No, it's gummy bears. That's what it was Gummy bears.

Speaker 1: 55:20

We had gunny bears.

Speaker 2: 55:21

You were you were talking about bussing cabs, everywhere bussing cabs, gummy bears nice yeah what, what?

Speaker 3: 55:28

what morning cartoons did you watch there in harrisburg man?

Speaker 1: 55:31

we, I don't know, we didn't have like I. I do remember that. Now. Honestly, though, after we talked about that on the last podcast, I went in and looked at I'm like, oh, I do remember jelly or gummy jelly bears, jelly bears, killing me, gummy bear, yeah I do remember that, yes, gummy bears, dave wasn't watching cartoons.

Speaker 2: 55:48

He was watching the news to see who got murdered the night before Right right right, dave had one of those radios.

Speaker 1: 55:53

You get the police channel scanners, police scanners, yeah.

Speaker 3: 55:57

Oh, not going there today, yeah.

Speaker 2: 55:59

So we were talking about the two Corys earlier. X number of movies. They were, in fun fact, this one was their first movie together.

Speaker 3: 56:08

I did what? Two or three?

Speaker 1: 56:09

more since then. I didn't see that yeah this was their first one.

Speaker 2: 56:10

They became buddies, uh, because they weren't old enough to hang out and party with the older actors, so they just hung out together like they'd go to the arcade. They'd hang out in each other's rooms like watching movies and shit yeah so they became, you know, friends, thanks to the three weeks of filming this movie yeah, I know that.

Speaker 1: 56:25

Uh, like hame was up for one of the roles that felt I think it might have been the goonies, correct, cory hamer?

Speaker 2: 56:31

he he auditioned for the role that what's his name? Got mouth. He had applied to be mouth and uh, feldman got it.

Speaker 1: 56:37

So I'm sure a lot of roles they were going up against each other and stuff, but feldman was definitely the more known uh at the time. You know, yep.

Speaker 3: 56:44

I think it was. The Lost Boys was after Peter Pan. That's why they named it.

Speaker 1: 56:48

Yes, yeah, I did read about that. It was like a short story or an offshoot of that.

Speaker 2: 56:50

I didn't piece that together until I did the write-up for this, oh, for real, and I didn't even read about that. I pieced this together like holy shit, the Lost Boys. Well, that's the name of that hangs out with peter pan. Those are the guys that are on the you know land of misfit toys, wherever the hell they're at. Oh wow, wasn't that the guy with the teeth? The doctor maybe? But they're hanging. These, these, these, the lost boys, these, and they live forever.

Speaker 2: 57:15

They just stay, boys forever, boys forever I never, ever pieced together the idea that, oh, vampires live forever. And these are young kids or younger, the lost boys. Huh, no shit, no shit.

Speaker 1: 57:25

Well, here's another. You guys, like some could have, would have, should have.

Speaker 2: 57:29

Yeah, I got two.

Speaker 1: 57:30

Go ahead who you got.

Speaker 2: 57:31

I got David.

Speaker 1: 57:32

Uh-huh.

Speaker 2: 57:33

Could have been Jim Carrey.

Speaker 1: 57:35

Yeah, that's the one I saw, yeah.

Speaker 3: 57:37

Well, he did that one movie with the vampire movie Once Bitten yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 57:48

Movie once bitten yeah, no, nobody wants to see him. Uh, typecast. Uh, let's see who was the other one you had, because I have three here, but max, yeah.

Speaker 2: 57:52

So max was played by the guy from overboard which is give me a second, give me a second, give me a second. Edward herman yeah could have been fred gwynn yeah, the monsters, the monsters.

Speaker 1: 58:02

Also, the judge from um, my cousin benny. Yeah, I look forward to the Munsters, the Munsters.

Speaker 2: 58:04

Also the Judge from my Cousin Benny.

Speaker 1: 58:08

Yeah, which I?

Speaker 2: 58:09

look forward to doing that one on this show. That's a good one too, yeah.

Speaker 1: 58:11

The only other one I had was and they didn't say for which part, but Ben Stiller auditioned for it.

Speaker 3: 58:15

Yeah, I saw that Ben Stiller was supposed to be a lost boy. Yeah, the two youths, the two youths.

Speaker 2: 58:21

The only one I got left is about Tim Capello, the beach singer guy. He's the one who he sang, I still believe, on the soundtrack, and he was actually in for true to form. He was in Tina Turner's touring band.

Speaker 1: 58:32

And when he's in it like Mad Max. Correct yeah, Was it like a Mad Max theme?

Speaker 2: 58:36

He did. He was in the band when she did the Thunderdome Yep, yep, because he looked like one of them dudes.

Speaker 1: 58:43

Yeah, I was going to say too, he reminded me of the. I don't know if we talked about it during that scene, but like the, when that band was playing, it reminded me of weird science, like the dudes at the end and the chick that come into the party. Oh, yeah, yeah Like they if they were in a band, that's kind of that.

Speaker 2: 59:02

that group, that motorcycle group that came in at the end of weird science that was based 100% on Mad Max, to the road warrior Um there was in this movie.

Speaker 3: 59:11

They wanted to film at the very end. You know how, like the Marvel and stuff. Now at the very end, everybody waits around for the very end, yeah. Um, they were going to have showing that there was going to be another one. They were going to have a camera go back into the little lair there. They were supposed to go back and down this cave and they go through the cave and then there was a painted mural at the back of the cave which was Max, exactly how he looked in the movie.

Speaker 1: 59:33

So he was from back in the day, yeah, stating that they're going to have more to come, but they never did.

Speaker 2: 59:38

Why didn't they? That's a shame, I don't know. I was watching. I'd love to see something come out of this like an origin story, like where did the four boys come from? Like where was Kiefer Sutherland from? Could he have been some I don't know punk guy from New York? And he made his way to California and all of a sudden he got bit. And where did Max come from? Could he have been from the 1500s or wherever the hell who knows?

Speaker 3: 1:00:01

Yeah, right, origin stories for a lot of these movies would be cool, and it's just moneymakers too.

Speaker 1: 1:00:06

Right. Two other things I have which we talked about in the beginning. The Emerson's truck was a 1968 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ55. Like I said, that thing's probably still running. Those things are legendary. What was the blue convertible? So that was a 1957.

Speaker 2: 1:00:20

Ford Fairlane 500 Skyliner. Yeah, that grandpa was driving around you are the one to notice this. Did you notice the vanity plate on the front of that Ford?

Speaker 1: 1:00:29

What was it? No, I didn't notice what was it 57 Flip. Oh shit, no, Yep. What's the flip? For you think it's?

Speaker 2: 1:00:36

convertible. Oh, because of the convertible.

Speaker 1: 1:00:38

I got you, I got you, yeah. So that's pretty much I have you guys all done on fun facts. All done on fun facts, I guess this is a time where we'll do our rating.

Speaker 2: 1:00:46

Sure.

Speaker 1: 1:00:47

We have late fee return or burn, matt, it's your movie. You want to lead us off?

Speaker 3: 1:00:51

I would actually I would late fee this. That was, I think, my first late fee. I might keep it an extra day, maybe have some friends over or something.

Speaker 1: 1:00:59

I feel like you got to check this shit out. Cool, cool.

Speaker 2: 1:01:03

Does that mean you want to go, or I would return it, but I would watch the shit out of it yeah I would. I would give it at least two back-to-back watches, maybe a third the next morning, but I would.

Speaker 1: 1:01:12

I would return it yeah for me back then. I'm returning it. Um, like I said I told talked about in the beginning I didn't really I liked it in a way but I wasn't like blown away by it back then. But I think it was a little too stylistic at the time for me. I did grow to like I actually own it, so I did I do like it, um, but it probably returned it at that point. Now it's putting me back in 88.

Speaker 2: 1:01:32

Yeah, yeah A hundred percent.

Speaker 1: 1:01:34

But uh, yeah, I guess that said, you guys have anything else in closing on this?

Speaker 3: 1:01:38

No, you guys are good. This podcast we could dress as the lost boys. For we could, for halloween, pull that off or just start dressing like that, like every day. General yeah, it's a cool look.

Speaker 1: 1:01:48

That's a timeless look. I don't think it ever goes away, but you could definitely dress like that now and it would look all right sure I would say go to the mall, but there's no malls left, so I don't know where you would go capital city on the west shore, oh yeah yeah, so this was one off of our list on facebook.

Speaker 1: 1:02:02

We have a list of movies on Facebook where our listeners have been going on and adding movies. Lost Boys is one of them. So that's, we're knocking that out. I picked one off of that list, for next time is going to be Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. So we're going to try to get back to listener input. What do you guys think on that?

Speaker 2: 1:02:17

I say please, please with butter and cheese. Let us know what you like.

Speaker 1: 1:02:21

Let us know what you'd like us to cover. There's probably about 20 movies on that list. Lost Boys, I think, was maybe one that's been on there for a while. So definitely go on our Facebook Instagram, leave us a note and leave us a movie to review.

Speaker 3: 1:02:34

Here we can start knocking them out. Start picking them off the list. That'd be fun.

Speaker 1: 1:02:39

Obviously on Spotify. Apple you can leave us a review. Apple written review really helps, and I guess that's it for now, so we'll catch you where on the flip side.

Speaker 2: 1:02:45

If we don't see you sooner, we'll see you later.

Speaker 3: 1:02:47

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Speaker 1: 1:03:06

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