Good Guys Also Use AI

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Security Breach
Good Guys Also Use AI
Aug 12, 2026
Eric Sorensen

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The pace of technological advancement and the evolution of hacker behaviors makes recording episodes of this podcast well in advance a bit or a risk. There’s always the worry that whatever we discuss could become less relevant by the time it goes live. Today’s episode, however, bucks that trend.

The number of AI programs that have made headlines recently for busting out of their developmental sandboxes has generated some justified scrutiny of AI-based security solutions.

And while all of these developers deserve the heat they’re getting, it’s also important to not let these missteps serve as an excuse to delay your use of AI in strengthening cyber defenses.

I’m excited to have you listen to a conversation I had recently with AirMDR’s CEO Kumar Saurabh. His unbridled enthusiasm about how AI can help the good guys keep pace with evolving threats and implement solutions far more quickly and cost-effectively than even months ago, serves as a critical reminder to continue moving forward with AI implementations, albeit at possibly a more measured pace.

Watch/listen as we discuss:

  • How AI also simplifies and scales things for the good guys.
  • Why AI is only in the second inning of the game.
  • How an AI strategy should be like "building the car around the engine."
  • Why AI could be the solution for enterprises trying to implement cybersecurity fixes, but lack the time and resources.
  • Where agents and humans can compliment each other.
  • Why shrinking attack windows mean manufacturers have to pick up the pace for response.
  • Ways to identify the right tools and platforms for your organization.

A copy of the report mentioned by Kumar can be found here. 

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To catch up on past episodes, you can go to Manufacturing.net, IEN.com or MBTmag.com. You can also check Security Breach out wherever you get your podcasts, including Apple, Amazon and Overcast.

If you have a cybersecurity story or topic that you’d like to have us explore on Security Breach, you can reach me at jeff@ien.com.

Episode Artwork Good Guys Also Use AI 26:35 Episode Artwork LISTEN: The Continuing Evolution of Ransomware 34:13 Episode Artwork LISTEN: Security Breach: 'Prevention is Damn Near Impossible' 34:52 Episode Artwork The Hard Realities of OT Cybersecurity 30:52 Episode Artwork Focus on Hitting Lower, Not Harder 43:38 Episode Artwork 'Defense in Depth is Dead' 35:36 Episode Artwork Countering New-Age, State-Sponsored Industrial Hackers 35:25 Episode Artwork Taking Down of a North Korean Remote Access Scam 36:41 Episode Artwork Multiple Paths to Zero Trust - Channeling D&D, LOTR and It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia 44:01 Episode Artwork The Bad Guy's Different Set of Rules 29:01 Episode Artwork Finding the Soul of a Pirate 37:35 Episode Artwork Analyzing, Responding to the Inevitable Uptick in Iranian Cyberattacks 36:38 Episode Artwork Hybrid Warfare is Upon You 31:34 Episode Artwork Security Breach: Strengthening Your Weakest Links 32:58 Episode Artwork Clarifying the Big-Picture Impacts of CMMC 41:23 Episode Artwork Shiny Objects and the Power of Preparation 44:22 Episode Artwork You Don't Have to Out-Tech the Hacker 40:55 Episode Artwork Speaking the Right Language 46:39 Episode Artwork Why People Are Not the Biggest Risk 49:03 Episode Artwork Preserving Uptime in the Face of Evolving Attacks 31:05 Episode Artwork New Patching Strategies for Old Vulnerabilities 26:12 Episode Artwork The Wild & Weird of Industrial Cybersecurity 30:33 Episode Artwork Using AI to Stay Ahead of the Hack 31:41 Episode Artwork Threat Landscape Update 49:32 Episode Artwork Cure Me or Kill Me - The Little Things That Escalate Attacks 43:18