Speaking the Right Language

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Speaking the Right Language
Dec 04, 2025
Eric Sorensen

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Perhaps you’re familiar with the quote, “The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.” While its use in the movie The Usual Suspects might resonate with most, the original attribution goes to French poet Charles Baudelaire.

The quote came to mind in preparing for my conversation with Tim Chase, Principal Technical Evangelist for Orca Security. I knew we were going to be discussing topics where the biggest implementation challenges typically resonate from OT asset owners who don’t see the need to address these topics.

Or, with all due respect to Baudelaire, the greatest trick hackers ever pulled was convincing the industrial sector that they didn’t care.

The good news is that folks like Tim are aware of these situations, and working to offer some new solutions. Watch/listen as we discuss:

  • How vital it is to define security responsibilities.
  • The growing need for cloud security education.
  • Why a top-down approach is vital for creating a security-focused culture.
  • The benefits of creating internal security champions.
  • The annoying, but growing significance of SBOMs.
  • Combatting alert fatigue.
  • The biggest challenges AI is creating for cybersecurity.

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Episode Artwork Speaking the Right Language 47:27 Episode Artwork Why People Are Not the Biggest Risk 49:51 Episode Artwork Preserving Uptime in the Face of Evolving Attacks 31:53 Episode Artwork New Patching Strategies for Old Vulnerabilities 27:00 Episode Artwork The Wild & Weird of Industrial Cybersecurity 31:21 Episode Artwork Using AI to Stay Ahead of the Hack 32:28 Episode Artwork Threat Landscape Update 50:19 Episode Artwork Cure Me or Kill Me - The Little Things That Escalate Attacks 44:05 Episode Artwork Being 'Proactively Paranoid, Not Paralyzed' 37:41 Episode Artwork Why More Hackers Are Logging On Than Breaking In 33:15 Episode Artwork You Think You Know Me 35:54 Episode Artwork Avoiding the Ostrich Approach 51:34 Episode Artwork 'We've Made Our Own Prison' 43:07 Episode Artwork Dark AI Speeding Hacker Evolution 36:58 Episode Artwork Why Ransomware, Credential Theft and Phishing Schemes Persist 40:10 Episode Artwork Unsecure Webcam Was All a Ransomware Group Needed 32:10 Episode Artwork IABs, Dark Web Fueling Ransomware Surge 39:29 Episode Artwork Manufacturing’s Internal Cyber Struggles 28:06 Episode Artwork Observations of an Ethical Hacking Researcher 36:23 Episode Artwork The Evolution of OT Vulnerabilities 37:35 Episode Artwork The Legacy of AI in Cybersecurity 27:33 Episode Artwork A Happy Ending to the Latest ICS Hack 30:12 Episode Artwork The Biggest Hacks of 2024 40:48 Episode Artwork Looking Back to Move Forward 42:16 Episode Artwork AI Is Exposing Your Most Vulnerable Attack Surface 36:05