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Timeless Wedding Trends: Balancing Tradition and Innovation Pt. 1
Wedding trends come and go, but how do you ensure the choices you make for your big day are timeless and not regretful? In this conversation, we examine trends and traditions like pearl veils and the garter toss, and discuss how photographers handle capturing these moments. Join us as we chat about the roots of wedding traditions and share our thoughts on creating memorable, timeless wedding moments.
Lastly, have you considered hiring a content creator for your wedding? We dive into the pros and cons of this trend and its impact on wedding photography and videography. From capturing the essence of beach attire evolution to discussing how to break up the reception portion of a wedding album, we've got you covered. Don't miss this captivating episode as we examine the delicate balance between embracing new trends and capturing timeless memories in the ever-changing world of weddings.
Wedding trends come and go, but how do you ensure the choices you make for your big day are timeless and not regretful? In this conversation, we examine trends and traditions like pearl veils and the garter toss, and discuss how photographers handle capturing these moments. Join us as we chat about the roots of wedding traditions and share our thoughts on creating memorable, timeless wedding moments.
Lastly, have you considered hiring a content creator for your wedding? We dive into the pros and cons of this trend and its impact on wedding photography and videography. From capturing the essence of beach attire evolution to discussing how to break up the reception portion of a wedding album, we've got you covered. Don't miss this captivating episode as we examine the delicate balance between embracing new trends and capturing timeless memories in the ever-changing world of weddings.
Hey guys, we just wanted to put a quick note at the top of this episode to let you all know that when we recorded we had not yet heard the outcome of the missing submersible that was trying to visit the Titanic. We don't want to make light of the situation and we fully recognize that five people lost their lives tragically. We chatted a bit about it in the beginning of this episode and our hearts go out to the families and friends of these explorers. That countdown is going to spook me like a lot.
Speaker 2:There's an actual countdown here that we're looking at on the screen.
Speaker 1:It's a lot of pressure to see like the five, four, three, two um go. Okay, have you seen all of this stuff about the missing submarine?
Speaker 2:I have That is nightmare fuel That is pure nightmare fuel for me.
Speaker 1:I thought about you instantly because one of the like the first things that we like bonded over, was the fact that we're so afraid of the ocean.
Speaker 2:Yup, That's I same exact thing. I definitely knew if you saw that you were going to be like nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. I've been following it all morning. I didn't even realize that was a thing I didn't know that you could just I mean, i guess, if you're super wealthy and you can just probably do whatever you want, go to space, go to see the Titanic, because, yeah, it's nearly two and a half miles under the ocean, there's no life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, i was going to say I think you have to have at least like $250,000 of like expendables to be able to actually like even consider this type of a thing. You couldn't pay me, i don't. you could not pay me to get on that, let alone me spending $250,000 to be like.
Speaker 2:And it's. It's just five and it's a tiny little thing. It's not big like you're and there's.
Speaker 1:Did you see the way they control it?
Speaker 2:No, oh, wait a minute. How do they control it?
Speaker 1:Dude, you didn't see the video where they're like showing like the inside and all of that. Absolutely. It's like a PS4 controller. The guys literally like you go up, you go down, it has, he's controlling it with a joystick that you can buy at a gas station. Oh, I'm like 250,000 dollars to get into a tiny little thing and then see the PS4 controller. I'd be like no, I'm out.
Speaker 2:I mean I would look at that in general and go, i'm out. I don't even need a PS4 controller to tell me that that's, that's wild And I I mean it's a tragedy, it's absolute tragedy, because I all, all you can hope for is that you know, if, at that pressure, or I should say yeah, at that depth, we were doing the science this morning real quick, which?
Speaker 1:you and Kelly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cause we were, you know, went. but this is, you go back to meteorology, you had to. and then for her oceanography she did physical oceanography, which is like crazy math and science, and oh, i should have known you guys would have been all over this, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Immediately went down and was like okay, so what does that actually mean? What's the pressure at that level? So, super scientific nerdy, this is as much as I'll give you is that it's super easy to calculate pressure underwater because, generally speaking, water is not compressible like air. Like air you can. That's why you can squeeze air into a tank and it can keep. Like you know, pressure water You can't. You can't squeeze it. It is what it is, it's, it's got a certain density and you can't change it. So what that means is it's easy to calculate how much weight is around you because of you. It's kind of a weird concept, but you think about it as you go deeper and deeper, there's more water on top of you and that's weight. So it's literally that's the pressure, it's literally pushing down on you. So as you continue to go deeper and deeper, it's literally just a curve on a line, or it's not a curve, it's just straight line. How much pressure is it? And at that level, at that depth, titanic, it's 6,000 pounds per square inch around that metal tube.
Speaker 1:And that's literally what it is some metal or like that's it.
Speaker 2:Or the pressure outside that you just walk outside. We use the, the terminology and atmosphere That's like the unit one atmosphere at that level It's 480, 480 atmospheres of pressure. So it's 480 times The amount of pressure versus just standing outside on a normal day.
Speaker 1:I'm not okay with it. So, and there's and there's no way for them to open it from the from the inside either, like they were saying like okay, best case scenario is like they're just lost and they're bobbing around on the ocean surface somewhere. Even if they were doing that, they're still running out of air inside because they can't open it from the inside. There's no way to do it. They need somebody to unbolt it from the outside.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's terrible, that's terrible, That's yeah.
Speaker 1:I just can't it's horrifying.
Speaker 2:That's that is, and I'm looking at my screen right now shaking. That's what it is.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's awful. I just I can't even imagine, and, like all of these people, to me it doesn't. I mean, i don't know. You see these like space excursions and that seems like it would probably be like the scariest thing ever, but when I think about going underneath the water that's 10 times scarier to me. Nope, No do you do you get into the submarine going like, okay, this might be it?
Speaker 2:You know like I'm I'm sure, like anything that you've ever, if you've ever even like a carnival ride, right, it's just like something where we'll say something more than a carnival.
Speaker 1:I've you ever done. Don't scare me with the carnival. I'm not.
Speaker 2:I'm not going on carnival rides anymore after the things that I've seen. so, but have you ever done anything I'm trying to think of like something random that you'd sign a waiver for and you're like, oh, you know, you kind of like half joking, like, well, this is safe, it's just they just have to make you sign a waiver skydiving, bungee jumping Oh, did you do those?
Speaker 1:I have not done.
Speaker 2:Oh okay, i just talked to somebody. No, i literally like checking off, like, oh yeah, skydiving, bungee jumping, i was coming.
Speaker 1:No, no, i'm thinking of all the things that you would sign a waiver for, i Don't know. I talked to somebody last week that did the skydiving. They said that it like changed their life And I was, like Good thing it changed yours, cuz mine stay in the same. I am not doing that, pretty sure.
Speaker 2:Who you photograph Matt McEwen, taylor. Did they? that's yeah, i'm nearly positive that they did skydiving. I'm like 99% sure they hear this. They're gonna below me now again.
Speaker 1:Good for them. I'm good on that. I think I'm good It's, it's.
Speaker 2:How about this? would you rather skydive, or rather Go in a submarine? you don't have to go the depth of Titanic, but just literally get in one and go in a little bit.
Speaker 1:I Don't know.
Speaker 2:I'm getting in the air.
Speaker 1:I think Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm getting in the air, i'm not going underwater perfectly telling. That's Kelly and I have this conversation. She's like it's a it's She's just she can scuba dive, she certified scuba diver, but as like a kid, she would absolutely go scuba diving at Ridiculous depths versus skydive and for me, being, and you, afraid of the ocean, those deep levels, i would absolutely take skydiving, no doubt.
Speaker 1:You know, i just or neither.
Speaker 2:I'll take neither too. If that's an option, i'm gonna go with that.
Speaker 1:Well, and I was looking it up, i guess they've had like successful excursions going down there since 2021, so this isn't the first time that they did it. This is just the first time it's gone missing, which is really, really frightening. I don't know, i just Thoughts and prayers, yeah, that's.
Speaker 2:I don't it's, yeah, i, it is, no, it's, it's, it's awful, like it's absolutely awful. I, i truly You, you will, as I've had read, as I'm just like stumbling over my words here, if anything, if it were there actually was a crack in that Actual to you know, they wouldn't even have known it would have been milliseconds because the pressure is so intense.
Speaker 1:So to me that's like best case scenario. It sounds terrible, but like I would rather that than have all of my oxygen running out and no one can find us. Yep I don't know anyway, what a morbid way to start, but I just couldn't, i couldn't not talk to you about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, though it's, it was one of my friends, tim, sent it to yesterday to our little group text, and I immediately was like, oh god, no, no, that's didn't. Didn't even realize it, didn't realize that was a thing awful, awful.
Speaker 1:All right, we're taking a turn taking turn again thoughts and prayers.
Speaker 1:Okay, so today I want to talk to you about what in trends. So the premise of this entire podcast is basically to have the push to have our Clients and other people who are listening not even just our clients the push to capture really authentic moments, and I want to go over some trends with you and, in a general sense, what trends mean. You know basically What we think as photographers about what these trends are doing for a day. Are they a waste of time? Are they going to be something that will turn timeless? So, first things first. I just want to talk to you about, like your opinion on trends in general, the trendiness of Let's just say we'll give an example, because this is a, this is a good one. I even had pearls in my little thing, so pearl veils, for example are a trend that's happening right now.
Speaker 1:Do we think that that's gonna turn timeless or do we think that people are gonna regret that in the future, going I? you know I probably didn't need to have that. What do you think, not just specifically about the pearl veils, but about our clients following these trends and hoping that it will stay timeless in their photos?
Speaker 2:totally depends on what it is, how loud it is, meaning not just like actual volume, but you know Actually, how much of it does it take up the photo? Is it screaming at you? Is it something so outlandish and the definition of outlandish is totally dependent upon, potentially, the person. But pearls on the veil, even if it goes out of style, i don't think that's going to be something. I'd look back and go, oh and I'm, it's coming for me not wearing a veil. Yeah, i Would go to guess, though It's, you know it's, they're on a white dress, neutral colors. I think that's really elegant. I really don't think that would be something that would stick out to me, especially even as the photographer. I would not be worried about that.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't be concerned. And if a bride was concerned I would say yeah, if you really want these, you know, go for it. This in a photo and a black and white photo are gonna look beautiful. In a color photo they're gonna look beautiful right.
Speaker 1:What's like pearls themselves, when they were out of style? just the pearls on the veil maybe, but the pearls that I've to me? pearls are Timeless, they're classic. Yeah, so the trend of adding them to into your hair, which I did, and doing the, you know, the On the cathedral veil, i don't think that that's ever technically gonna go out of style. So that is a visual trend. So when you think about trends being activities, how do you feel about that?
Speaker 2:Those are the ones that stand out to me. Activities stand out because they just Let's just, i guess, remove the photography portion of it. Great example Wait, i pick it right off the bat is garter toss. Right, garter toss is definitely one that it was.
Speaker 1:Everyone did it everyone did it 20, 30 years ago.
Speaker 2:I would love to know how far back that started and like when that started and why, to be completely honest, why it took so long to start phasing out, because, yeah, it's a little, a little cringe It's a little it's really cringe, yeah, yeah, and like it's Can be light-hearted and it could be a little bit funny, but it and it, it is but it, but at the same time it's not it's.
Speaker 2:Yeah like we could just so again, even from our standpoint. When I find out that people aren't doing that anymore, it's like, yeah, let's, we're good We can be fun from that one.
Speaker 1:That's okay. And the bouquet toss The boots. I feel like most people that I photograph right now don't do the bouquet toss anymore they don't.
Speaker 2:And even beyond the bouquet, toss the Cake cutting used to be such a big thing and people still so. I don't know about you, but I find that they'd still do the cake cutting. But it's almost labeled always now just like private, private cutting Yep just like.
Speaker 1:Just want the photos.
Speaker 2:just want the photos, they just want to do it, and then that's it, and then, yeah, so Interesting isn't that weird.
Speaker 1:Well, i think at one point we had what we either have to dig it up from, like the very beginning of when we started podcasting. But I remember we tried to do an episode Which, by example, for example No, not for example I'm tongue-tied- by example, no an example. No, for example. No, i'm not trying to say that No we, we tried to do a podcast on wedding trends or not. Wedding trends shit.
Speaker 2:I think we're looking at each other. Talked a lot, yeah, no, this is so. This is the first time that we're looking at each other on a screen, so you can't very distracting. It's very different.
Speaker 1:It's very different and you know. Apologies if we're like yeah.
Speaker 1:Look away So yeah, um no, we did one on wedding traditions is what we did. We did one on wedding traditions and where they came from and all of that. So we're either gonna have to dig that up or we're gonna have to redo a traditions one. If it was like terrible quality Because it probably was I think we recorded at my house. But we did one on traditions and then we discussed briefly how the garter toss was tied into the idea that the father was giving away his daughter, the bride, and a lot of that also had to do it with, like you know, almost like doing like a trade at one point for your, your daughter as a bride, for livestock and all of that. So some of me almost wonders if the garter Tradition has something to do with that.
Speaker 1:Probably, it probably does like like a sacred thing that you're taking off of the brides thigh to To change ownership or something you.
Speaker 2:I mean, there are so many I don't even know what the word would be things that we take for granted and just do, and I always have this conversation of like Do you know why you do it? Is there a? I know that you think it's just because, so, even the, even the concept, what was I talking about recently? It was like There's a, so I'm I'm tanging a little bit, but it'll, it'll come full circle, full circle here. You're good.
Speaker 1:There is a book.
Speaker 2:There's a bunch of them in Connecticut. These are. There was the same author who made these books of like It's like the history of the town. I know you've. You saw the cover.
Speaker 1:You probably see yeah, I've definitely seen them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they're like it's like a sepia color almost on the cover and there's a block island one that I had got Kelly a few years back and she was going through at the other night because we had just gone to block Island and Inside of it was a photo from I'm gonna say it was the 1920s, might have been the 1920s of people at the beach on block Island and they're wearing Full suits like tux with tails and hats and everyone, and it looks so ridiculous because they're wearing up You know not much shoe choices back then.
Speaker 2:I'm assuming so to wear like casual clothes, because that wasn't a thing, people didn't go to the beach yet and like hang out.
Speaker 1:So I Can't even like. You just go to the beach in a suit.
Speaker 2:That's just what you did, because going out and like being in public, it was just. You know, it's the class, it was the sign of class.
Speaker 1:Oh, like the nudity, thing and that?
Speaker 2:well, that too, but it was just. It was wild to see that photo, and it wasn't until The 50s that there was basically like a revolution of like oh, you can wear bathing suits because that. But you couldn't even buy those clothes. They didn't exist yet. You couldn't in America, you couldn't buy. You know, go shopping for a bathing suit.
Speaker 1:It wasn't a thing, it's so strange, like how, i guess how, how recently all of these things have become popular, you know?
Speaker 2:what.
Speaker 1:I'm saying like you think about, like bathing suits They've been around forever but they haven't they haven't.
Speaker 2:You don't realize, like how, like in reality, like in general, america in in itself is not that old. It's, it's really not.
Speaker 1:So it's kind of why you think about that. Yeah, what are you saying?
Speaker 2:No, nothing, i was just like thinking for a second. Yeah, we just both just goes up, and So, going back to The traditions of something like the, the garter toss, what are some other ones that you, that you, i mean just the bouquet, okay, okay, so like.
Speaker 1:So, those are some traditions that I just don't really understand. I mean, i they're phasing out, which is awesome, and new trends are coming in, which is what I wanted to talk to you about today, and I think I think everybody's just trying to be as creative as humanly possible to try to create these new trends, and I know you sent me one not too long ago. It was something about making your cake cutting like a photo opportunity, where the bride and the groom cut a cake and serve each of their guests a piece of the cake Yes, and in.
Speaker 1:In theory, that sounds really great. If you have 25 people at your wedding, that sounds really nice, you know, if you have 125 people. That sounds Terrible, and it sounds terrible for your photographer to be totally honest.
Speaker 2:It would just be it. It can't be a last-minute decision. It would have to be something Planned well ahead of time, because I would I mean, i would have to have Another photographer there, like or you are literally sacrificing an enormous amount of time an enormous.
Speaker 1:It has to be like an hour of your time to have all of your people come up. Yes, that's.
Speaker 2:That would be wild because, also, going to guess, cake cutting at that time It's probably dark or it's or your inside or it's not good natural light. So it's not easy for us to just like whip up around the corner and be like, yeah, real quick, boom, boom, boom. We got to make sure that the lighting is good once it's set, even from an, even from a flash off camera. You know you should be good to go, but it still takes time to set up and That would just be for me. That would be a nightmare. That would be just kind of a I'm. Another trend on this realm was the which I have. You and I went back and forth on this. Last time we talked about it was Running around the room in a song and catching all the tables.
Speaker 1:So I've done it.
Speaker 2:I've seen it well and I've seen what can happen when it doesn't go well. Yeah so there's, there's risks involved on both sides of that for the, for the couple.
Speaker 1:The risk is, you know, the picture is not gonna be that great like unless you have a perspective, unless you start the song out by saying everybody, get up at your table, stand together in a group around your table, and the bride and the groom are gonna come in the middle. Like leave some space, because if everybody's sitting at the table, you have a round table and everybody They're gonna be like. Some of the people in your photos are gonna be like Yeah that's you know. Their backs are to you.
Speaker 2:Yep, and it would so from the Photography standpoint. What do you got to do from that? Well, that means you've got a really Close down your aperture because you don't want people to be weirdly out of focus because it's probably gonna be a circle table And you're gonna have a ring around it unless everyone's in a perfect line.
Speaker 1:And your lighting is different all around your venue, so you have to keep just Over the place.
Speaker 2:So that was a you know one venue had done was a. You know it had an upstairs and it downstairs and there's beams in the way And there was a. You know it was. It was tricky, it was challenging. At the end of the day, good with their. You know they're just silly photos and but that's what they wanted.
Speaker 2:They want just you know it was a fun, fun photo, so it it. The trend totally entirely depends on Understanding what's gonna happen, how your couple expects what the photo should look like, and you making expectations clear of what that will be. But I have noticed that that, at least for me I don't know about you I'm already seeing that trend die down. I'm already. I haven't had that, i've only had one wedding ever do it.
Speaker 1:I've only had one of my couples ever do it and It was it was. I'm not. I'm not trying to complain, it was fun. Because they did like they did, like the six flag, like.
Speaker 2:As they went around the whole room.
Speaker 1:It's a fun thing to watch the bride in the groom do it, but from a photographer standpoint it's a nightmare trying to figure out the lighting and all of the different corners, and and then if you Take a photo and they're trying to get to everybody by the end of the song and you're like, wait, but this photo is actually kind of shit, are we moving to the next one? You know, thank you friend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the best ones that I've had doing that were basically wide open ballrooms with a neutral color ceiling. And I'm able to. I don't. I don't have a, you know, i'm not gonna have a second shoot to run around with a flash, i'm gonna just use my bounce and we're. And it was okay, it was good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the one that I ever did. It was in a white tinted wedding, which is that works.
Speaker 2:Yep, totally fine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's against the white. The other thing, the other one was The dollar dance. Did you get, have you?
Speaker 2:ever done that, yet Never done it.
Speaker 1:It's, it's only, it's only a nightmare, because, as they so like, what people do is, they come up, they put a dollar in the jar And I could be complaining about a trend that's totally dying down, because I think only two of my clients have ever done it But the bride and the groom stand, or the wedding couple Stand up on one side, like both sides, and then somebody comes up for a dance And you basically do like a spin with the bride and a spin with the groom and then you have photos taken of you On the spin but like if you're only doing one spin and your photo comes out bad.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, you know, it's kind of like oh no, you know. Cuz like.
Speaker 1:Then they get photos of some people but not all the people, cuz I don't, i don't deliver photos of people. That are just bad.
Speaker 2:I just I can't you know it's yeah Well, meaning like in the shot itself, like it's just not, it doesn't look great, yeah well like, if, if like, for example, if I take two shots and in both of them the person is blinking. What, yeah, what am I supposed to do there? You know?
Speaker 1:so like, okay, you paid a dollar to have this dollar dance, but you don't technically get your photo because it was only one quick spin, it's just. It's those things that It seems like a huge Time suck I don't want to say like a time waster, but it's a huge time suck for Photos that aren't really gonna come out that good, like the table photos. It's like, do you really want to run around and do that, or would you rather just like enjoy and see them?
Speaker 1:on the dance floor or stuff like that. So I have a list of Of some Wedding trends that are happening right now and I just go through it. I want to hear it, Okay so we've got a phone guest book. I'm here for it.
Speaker 2:I'm that's a freaking love that, because it's cute, you can do it on the side, it's. you know, it's really nice to be able to hear these like little custom messages from people.
Speaker 1:I think that's awesome. Yeah, I love that trend. I don't think it's gonna die. I.
Speaker 2:Have you know it's, it's hit or miss. I've seen that only in a few, but it's. but I don't think it's like a Yeah, let's put it this way, it's, even if it was a dying trend. I think we need like a seal of approval, something here that that's a, that's a good trend, that's a good one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yes, okay, we agree on that one.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:All right. So then we've got a micro bouquets, basically a little tiny. I'm good, i'm honestly I don't know if the floral industry will hate me for this I love like dainty florals, like I love-.
Speaker 2:I don't think I hate you for that. I think it's totally dependent upon each person. So what they're gonna make is I'm sure that to get it to look good, even dainty is still a. that's still a talent to get that perfect, so Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Well, I just think dainty means less florals, So it's kind of like you know, I don't want nobody in the floral industry.
Speaker 2:come at me because I had dainty florals at my wedding. Send them to me. I love them. I love them. Send all the Send your pitchforks to Chris. That's fine, okay, so micro bouquets.
Speaker 1:You're saying yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Okay, Me too. We have okay this one Day of Content Creation, So this is basically yeah. So this is basically. I think you had somebody do this with you at a wedding not too long ago. Somebody was following you around with a phone to create content Create-. Yes, it was a wedding.
Speaker 2:Yes, you are Yep.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:So I think it. so this one once again expectations. So if it is a couple who is completely okay with that and maybe not only okay with it, but maybe it feels like a paparazzi style, like this is my big day, like yeah, get the people here record them, this is awesome. But there are couples that are going to be the complete opposite of that and are private, who don't want that at all. So it you can't just, as a photographer, hire someone for behind the scenes if that is not okay with your couple.
Speaker 1:So- Is that how it happened? Is your? you had to hire the content creator.
Speaker 2:I think there's multiple ways to go about it, but I know one of them is the photographer can actually hire the content creator for video behind the scenes of them working.
Speaker 1:Oh, so I'm looking at this like the bride and the groom or the wedding couple. are the content creators like for a job? That's what I was thinking is like they hire their own content creator to not be working with the photographer, necessarily, i didn't realize that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, i have not personally had to. I have not seen that. I have not seen a bride and a groom hire a content creator, because the content creators, in my mind, would be the photographer and the videographer.
Speaker 1:That's what I would think, but we don't also get like. We get behind the scenes but it's not, you know, when we're taking photos of the dress being bustled, for example we're not also taking a video of the people bustling the dress.
Speaker 1:We're taking the photos but we don't necessarily have the video to be able, like when we're taking photos, basically, we can't take the video as well.
Speaker 1:So if somebody wanted the content creation and like let's say that the bride was like a content creator for her own business and she decided, like I want somebody to follow us around all day with, you know, an iPhone, just to create that and then send me all of the footage, I think it's good, like I'm giving this like a one thumbs up and a one thumbs down only because I feel like it's so easy to forget what you're there for, kind of, and like get caught up in, like well, i'm working today Because, like, if you're taking, if you are a content creator and you're constantly taking the behind the scenes, or you have somebody or just one of your friends taking the behind the scenes and they're like, oh, do that again. And then it doesn't really give you time with your photographer or your real videographer. And now you feel to me, if I was a bride who was a content creator and I hired somebody to do that.
Speaker 1:I would feel like I'm working all day. Sure, that's yeah, absolutely, but having a friend that just kind of like takes videos and does things like on their own and whatever. like you get what you get and you don't get upset. And you know you could kind of say like do you mind? just like videoing some behind the scenes, but if you're literally doing it for creating content for your job, that is where I'm like no, that's a thumbs down, like I don't think that that's entirely necessary.
Speaker 2:I would agree 100% on this, and I know that's so boring for a podcast.
Speaker 1:I should be here to be eating this out here at both sides.
Speaker 2:But I do. I think the we're going to yeah, thumbs up. This is terrible. The camera thumbs up, thumbs down, both.
Speaker 1:Oh, oh, for both reasons.
Speaker 2:Just for the sole purpose of this podcast, which is about creating real authenticity and everything is BS. Yeah, we don't live in the side of you know, complete What's the word like? fabricated, fabricated looks of a wedding day. You know you want to make it special, make it nice, but check off the reasons why you're doing it. So we do work and I absolutely do lean into the the realism here of why you're there for your right, because it's your wedding day with your partner. So yeah, i once again. Unfortunately, it depends.
Speaker 1:Thumbs up, thumbs down, thumbs up, thumbs down, thumb in the middle. So I'm not really going to go too much into like the, i guess, like the styles of like wedding day, like I, i see that some trends are like you know, the embroidered veils. I think that's really cool, i mean, i think whatever you choose for your look, or like bows right now are apparently a trend. But like, when have we ever not had bows? You know?
Speaker 2:yeah, bows have just always come in and out. So, it's not more, maybe it's, i guess it's. we consider bow like bootleg cut jeans like right, they were popular, and then they kind of come back, but they'll always come back.
Speaker 1:It'll always come back. We'll never not have a bow somewhere.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Yep, what do you think about like having a second dress to change into for the reception?
Speaker 2:Or like a second look.
Speaker 1:In general, I want to be like very inclusive, like not just for the bride.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Oh no, I'm all about that. That's selfishly, because I'm a photographer and I'm like, oh different, You know here's yeah. I think about it from like the album perspective too, because when they, they that's you know, a wedding album.
Speaker 2:I'm all about chronological order, making it look good like a story, and having that second piece to change into like just it, just like helps your brain visualize the next step of the story instead of. So sometimes I feel like that way I don't know how you deliver your photos. When I deliver photos, you know I'm breaking it up into the sections of the day. Yep, Me too, and sometimes the reception section is just so long and I don't know how to break that up, sometimes other than like before cake, after cake, like I don't know how I would label that, but that would be a great way to do it. It just like mentally. For me that would separate the different parts of the night.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's just like you know, here's formal portion of reception and then here's like extra fun part.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that would be cool, so what. I usually do to break up the reception is, if we have an opportunity to go out for sunset portraits, i will do the first half of the reception and then I'll do the sunset portraits. So I have like portraits too, and then the second half of the reception that'll be broken up. But if they don't have sunset portraits then it's all just kind of one big fun time.
Speaker 1:But, I think and this is unpopular because of like the money that goes into it. But I've seen so many horror stories about dresses either getting completely, and I'm talking like like listen, my dress was ruined at the end of the night, i was okay with it. I tell all my brides I'm like, listen, if you're going to be one of those brides, it's going to get bent out of shape. If you step on the back of your dress and it has a grass to the back of your dress, it has a grass stain. Like I'm not for you, because I just feel like my brides are so adventurous, like they just want to like walk around and have a good time. If your dress is not dirty at the end of the night, you didn't do your night right. But that also comes with like a little like I've seen brides and grooms and wedding parties on like docks that go down, and so for me, i think having something to change into no matter what is a really good idea.
Speaker 1:Yeah, You know what I'm saying, like just in case something could happen, and it doesn't have to be another complete wedding gown. but to not have a backup is a little risky. You know what I'm saying, cause anything could happen, anything. Do you agree or no? I do agree.
Speaker 2:To be completely honest, i just was thinking back on what I said and I said bootleg cut jeans. Is that what they're called? They're not bootleg, are they?
Speaker 1:I think they're. They're just bootcut. I think they're just bootcut. Yeah, bootleg, bootleg, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I said so I was literally thinking about that. I was like I'm pretty sure it's not bootleg, but that's what I said.
Speaker 1:So in your brain I'm talking and you're like bootleg. Yeah, if you can hear my thoughts you just gave me that whole thing.
Speaker 2:I was like bootleg bootleg?
Speaker 1:No, definitely not bootleg. I have to address this. I have to address it.
Speaker 2:I absolutely two thumbs up, like, if you want my answer on this, two thumbs up, give yourself an outfit to change into, make it fun, make it still formal, ish, and you're probably going to be way more comfortable in it. Specifically for, like a wedding gown, like what some brides want to wear their wedding gown all night. Because it's the wedding gown and you went to, you're going to wear it just like that again. Yeah, but it's also sometimes really heavy and just not easy to move around and on the dance floor, and especially if you want to get out and dance. The last wedding I was just at, the bride changed into her second dress and it was this, you know, still beautiful, gorgeous thing that you could easily dance with though way easier.
Speaker 2:And there's something about it too, because when she came out in her new dress, all of a sudden talk of the town again. Oh my God, have you seen her? Have you seen what she's wearing? Like, and everyone gets like for some reason like oh my God, yeah, Just like the dancer like gets more energized again because she's like Oh, she's ready, let's go.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So love that.
Speaker 1:Um, let's see. So that's a resounding yes for both of us, which is good. Then we have let's see, let's see Sorry, i'm like watching. Okay, many reception dresses. Yeah, we already said yes for that. Small bouquets, yep.
Speaker 2:I got one.
Speaker 1:Oh, tell me.