Nostalgia, Personality Types, and the Emotional Journey of Photography Pt. 1

Remember the first time you visited your childhood home after moving out? The flood of nostalgia, the bittersweet emotions, and the realization that things can never be the same again? This episode explores the emotional weight of nostalgia, especially when it involves visiting loved ones and cherished places filled with memories. We share personal stories of dealing with the sentimental turmoil when saying goodbye to places that once held a special place in our hearts.

Imagine being a Type A person in a world that seems to revolve around Type B attitudes. We share our experiences and discuss how personality types influence how we manage our schedules, especially in high-stress situations. With anecdotes from our professional lives as wedding photographers, we elucidate how we handle the multitude of emotions and expectations that come with planning a wedding. At the end of the day, it's all about finding a balance and creating organized platforms to keep our sanity intact.

Photographs, a beautiful way of remembering our life stories - the joys, the sorrows, the choices our loved ones made, and the places we've been. As we wrap up this intimate conversation, we reflect on the importance of capturing memories from special places, despite knowing that these memories may not be revisited in the same way ever again. Nonetheless, we believe in the power of photos as they serve as a poignant reminder of the past and a form of acceptance of the chapters that have ended.

Transcript

Speaker 2: 0:37

Always scary every week scary. We're talking about the countdown. It's always so scary to see the 54321.

Speaker 1: 0:45

You're gonna hear us talk about this every week, because every week we forget we both go. Yeah, five, four, three.

Speaker 2: 0:51

It's like it's just a podcast. Yeah, how was your weekend?

Speaker 1: 0:56

Weekend was great. It was a less, less busy weekend Compared to the past. I'd say month, month and a half.

Speaker 2: 1:05

Yeah, you've had a pretty, a pretty like Crazy ride, I feel yeah, it's, it's, I mean I.

Speaker 1: 1:13

It's so funny because last year last year for the wedding photographers we and a lot of photographers will go to say not even just weddings was the the last year of the COVID Explosion, reschedule. So last June I was hopping all over the place doing all weddings, just you know, every weekend, but not just every weekend like Friday, saturday, sunday and three triple headers to double headers, new Jersey, rhode Island, massachusetts, was driving around in one weekend staying in hotels, just to, you know, charge the batteries, get over the card set, said I would never do a June like that again. Only I loved my couples and my weddings and I I'm so happy that I have those opportunities Never complained about too much work. But if there is too much work and I can make a, a adjustment to my schedule so that my work-life balance is better, I Will work on that and I said, this year I was gonna work on it and this June was technically less weddings, but I filled it with other things.

Speaker 1: 2:11

Just crazy. It's all good, it's all good. So well, those two years.

Speaker 2: 2:15

I said basically, like the, our schedules didn't choose us or no, we didn't choose our schedules, our schedules chose us for those two years because we literally just had to accept whatever Reschedule date the venues had. Like the brides and grooms had, it was, it was nuts.

Speaker 1: 2:30

I know.

Speaker 2: 2:30

I had a wedding up in Think I had a wedding in Vermont, and two days later or not two days later, I think it was the next day I had one in like Rhode Island and I was like, okay, I just kind of have to suck it up and do it.

Speaker 1: 2:44

Yeah, that was. That was the epitome of all those reschedules and just the, the cramming of work, because at that time you didn't know still know what the world was gonna be like. So it was like well, if this is the day that works for you, like Yep, this is what we're gonna really have another joy.

Speaker 2: 3:00

I don't have a choice.

Speaker 1: 3:00

Let's do it, and then I I remember saying it loud We'll deal with the stress later, because I know it's coming.

Speaker 2: 3:05

Yeah, and, and it was, oh, and it did.

Speaker 1: 3:10

So tell me about your weekend. Was yours like?

Speaker 2: 3:13

mine was good. So I I know that we've chatted a little bit about this, but I took a little bit of a a less Hactic wedding season so that I was able to take some more time for me, for my mental health, all of those things, and I'm finding that I have been booking a lot of sessions that required just a little bit of travel, but I'm able to, like, basically add my family members to my route. So I get to, you know, go and see my grandmother. I just told you the other week I went to Cape Cod with Chad for another family session for my cousin, and so this weekend I went up to Vermont and I visited my grandmother at her cabin, and Right after that I popped over to South Burlington where some of my clients from Connecticut actually just moved. So they reached out to me in January when my books were open and they were like I know it's a long shot because we're so far away, but you know we'd love to continue our journey with you and I think you said that your grandma has a cabin up there, so I was able to just book both of those or book that in the same weekend as going to see my grandma. So hey, um, yeah, and I don't, I don't get to visit her too too much. I feel like We'll talk about it a little bit more on the podcast.

Speaker 2: 4:24

But I feel like there's a lot that comes with visiting my grandmother up at that cabin that I do love so much. There's a lot of emotion that is tied in with that, and so sometimes I feel like I really want to go visit. However, the emotional I don't know, I want to say distress that I kind of have when I leave is a totally different. Like I find myself feeling so guilty because I'm like she's up there, she's alone, I want to go visit her, but there have been some things like my grandfather passing, that just makes the house not feel the same way that it used to. And I don't know if we've talked about this, but like I have a serious issue with nostalgia, like a serious if I think about it too much and I think about the way in which, like my siblings will never live under the same roof and you know we've lost so many people within my family. Oh, I could make myself throw up if I think about it long enough.

Speaker 2: 5:19

No, seriously, and it's funny because I keep getting these messages from my brides and my grooms and these families that I have that kind of make me feel like I'm not the only one. I'm talking with my hand a lot and I can't see it out of the camera. But yeah, so I had a little bit of that like nostalgia. I took some photos of the cabin. Some of you know I was kind of trying to capture my grandma's aura in, like the textures of the cabin and things like that. So it was a really good weekend. But it's funny I was telling my clients like I left with just enough time to get to my clients, or so I thought. And then I plugged it into my GPS and I was in the car and I'm all like teary because I just said goodbye to my grandma and it says that it would take a half hour or less and I was like, do I go back in? And then I'm like I look at myself in the mirror and I'm like in tears.

Speaker 2: 6:10

I'm like no, I'm just gonna go like this would be bad for both of us. So I just ended up leaving a little bit, a little bit early and arriving early, which was good because it took their little girl a little bit to warm up to me. But but yeah, no, it was a good weekend. There was just a lot of emotion involved.

Speaker 1: 6:29

So I saw some of those photos and obviously you did a good job of capturing, kind of, some of that vibe that you were just describing, because I believe I messaged you and was like oh wow this is a cool house, yeah it's a cool house, so you did really well with the photos.

Speaker 2: 6:43

No, thank you.

Speaker 1: 6:44

Yeah, absolutely. And it was yeah, it has a yeah. I felt to be completely honest. If it reminded me even though I know I was trying to figure it out it reminded me of your home. It really did.

Speaker 2: 6:57

Yeah, so it's so funny, like when we, when we saw well, a little bit of backstory my grandparents built their cabin. They bought that property in the 80s and they built it from the ground up and there was like a trailer that was on the property that everybody would go up and stay in while they were trying to build. And so I have all of these amazing memories going up and staying in that trailer and having the house. Actually, there's one memory specifically I went up with my grandfather, my grandpa Pete, and right before we went he went to his friend and he was like I, you know, I want I don't even know why he did this, but he basically grabbed two chickens, like little chicks, and he was like these are yours for the week. Take care of them, you know.

Speaker 2: 7:34

So we go up to Vermont, we're staying in this little trailer, these two little chicks running around, and as he was trying to get the plumbing done in the actual cabin, I'm running around and like it's basically like an unfinished foundation, kind of like I just had the bones but there was an upstairs and it had all the piping and all the holes and all of that. So I'm running around upstairs with my two little chicks and they run in opposite directions and I chased one and the other one they're putting in the plumbing downstairs and the other one I just see it go right over the hole ago and it fell right through the hole where they were trying to do the plumbing and my grandfather caught it and brought it up. So I was like my face was like oh what, I thought I lost it forever. But I guess they were just, you know, installing that pipe. So the chicken just went right down that pipe and my grandfather caught it and brought it up and was like, hey, I think his name should be lucky.

Speaker 1: 8:32

Yeah, absolutely so yeah.

Speaker 2: 8:36

so they built that house from the ground up. I have so many amazing memories in that property and it's funny because when my realtor he used to call the homes that he would pick out for me Brooke Brady Homes because he always said that they were super quirky he was like I know none of my other clients would be like into these homes. I don't know if that's a compliment, but he was like the homes that you choose generally to look at are kind of weird, like they have a little bit of a quirk to them. So when he picked this house out, I remember feeling like from the listing photos I was like yeah, this one's a little too weird for me. I think like I don't really know. You know, like it kind of looks like a brick breaking home I'm not really sure. And then Chad and I we decided to look at this house because we just kept losing every single bit. We just kept. I mean it was terrible. It was in 2020.

Speaker 1: 9:25

Yeah, so it was awful. I felt terrible for anybody having to deal with that, because if you didn't have seemingly, if you just didn't have, you know enormous amounts of cash to just throw at a you know a home which most people do not, then you were out of luck.

Speaker 2: 9:41

Right.

Speaker 1: 9:41

Your shit out of luck.

Speaker 2: 9:42

So I saw this house and I was like this is a really nice house, but it's out of my budget, it's, you know, not even in the area that I was looking in. I just I don't really know. And then finally we just were like, all right, let's just go take a peek at it. And I think I honestly only think that this wasn't snatched up quicker, because they dropped the actual location of this house in a totally different town. So I think people got confused when they tried to drive by and look at it because it wasn't where it was dropped on like Zillow, but anyway.

Speaker 2: 10:13

So we came to look at the house and Chad left early to come and look at the house with us, and the second Chad and I stepped on this property. It was like this is meant to be, kind of, and I was like this, like even walking in and there were older people that were living here before, but even walking in I was like it smells like my grandparents' house in Vermont and he was like no way it smells like my grandparents' house in New Hampshire. So he also had these memories tied to a cabin and, long story short, like most of what we fell in love with here reminded us of our favorite places in Vermont and New Hampshire, and so we were kind of like all right. And then I saw the backyard and I was like well, if things keep going well, do you want to get married back here? Like can you see us doing that? And he was like I was literally thinking the same thing.

Speaker 1: 11:02

So, oh, that's nice, that's real nice.

Speaker 2: 11:04

Yeah. So I mean fast forward now. We've already had our wedding here. We kind of have done our projects. But yeah, a lot of the reason why we chose this house was because it reminded me so much of that cabin in Vermont. So it's bittersweet, though, because we lost my grandfather in late 2015. And he was kind of the rock that held that place together. He you know my grandma has a really hard time taking care of it alone. So when I say that I'm leaving and crying it kind of, I just feel guilty. I feel like emotionally, it's a lot for me to go and visit, but at the same time, when I go up there and I'm spending time with her and I remember how much I love the house and the property and I love being there, but it's like pulling away, feels just so like heart wrenching. I called my mom on the way home. I'm like mom, this is why I don't go up here.

Speaker 1: 11:58

Understandable I mean yeah you've got, so nostalgia for you is just a pulls on your heartstrings, those nostalgia things yeah.

Speaker 2: 12:05

Because I feel like it's not without, without my grandpa Pete there. It's not the way it's supposed to be.

Speaker 1: 12:11

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2: 12:11

It's just it doesn't, and going down into his man cave he had like this awesome man cave and you know so bringing things down to the refrigerator down there for her.

Speaker 2: 12:20

It's like I walk in and I'm like, oh, grandpa, you know, like this wasn't the way it was supposed to be.

Speaker 2: 12:25

So it kind of leads into a little bit about what I want to talk about today, and that is we lean so heavily on real moments and photographing your people and you know I've I know that I've said before on this podcast like I've had brides and grooms lose their people and I'm just so honored and grateful to be photographing them. But similarly, your favorite places should be somewhere that you also photograph. So I know I talk a lot about in home sessions and clients sometimes want to move away from those in home sessions because they're like my house isn't the picture perfect magazine photo, like it's never going to look like that. And to me I mean the photos that I shared on on Instagram of my grand like, of my grandma's cabin. Nothing about that is picture perfect, but it's perfect to me because that's where my grandma is, you know. So, if it's okay with you, I want to talk today about, you know, the importance of photographing your favorite places.

Speaker 1: 13:22

Nope, it's not okay with me Moving on.

Speaker 2: 13:26

Do you have a place that, like you, no longer can visit, but you it like when you think about that place, it in captures either a childhood memory or something like that where, if you think about it, or is this like a I don't want to gender it, but is this like a woman versus man thing where, like, the nostalgia kills me, where, like you know, sometimes guys are like they have a thought and it's like well bye, oh pooh.

Speaker 1: 13:51

Done Moving on, yeah, short term. So on that, my unfortunately my short term memory is absolutely terrible. That's a separate side note. The amount of times I say what was I just doing.

Speaker 2: 14:02

Oh, the amount of times you you message me and you're like oh, by the way, I can't talk to you on Tuesday. I'm like, dude, you already told me it's going to be Monday.

Speaker 1: 14:09

Yeah, brooke has unfortunately dealt with. She has learned very quickly about what it means to really work with like a type B person. So I'm working on it, brooke.

Speaker 2: 14:19

It's a but here's the thing about type B people.

Speaker 1: 14:24

Is that we're for? The most part, usually like calm, carefree, just like you want to. You want to like chill out and have a nice conversation where your people will get you there, will help you listen. We'll do all that. When it comes to remembering where my keys are, my coffee, remembering scheduled dates, always unless I have a someone to tell me or an organized platform. So for weddings, obviously, I have an organized platform that tells me that we're good, but when it comes, to.

Speaker 2: 14:50

and I just want to say, most of the time when Chris is like oh, by the way, I think I double, he didn't he's. He's messaging me preemptively because he thinks he messed up before he did, but he actually didn't and he's already prepped me for the right date.

Speaker 1: 15:03

It's the firing of the brain, like it's unfortunately. It's the reactive method, like it just comes to my thought and I'm like, oh crap, I didn't message Brooke in this date and we need to do this and it's already been not only conversed between me and her, but it's on the calendar.

Speaker 1: 15:17

It's confirmed, yeah, so the smart thing to do would be like no, dude, you're good, Look at the things that we said we agreed to share, like a calendar, and make sure that I, before I messaged her in a panic that it's there, and then I just so the amount of messages that Brooke has that just says, oh, never mind, it's just like it's so funny. So back to what you you know, the main topic here. Yeah, I do have places that they, they instill memories real quick and you have to and it's it's, you know, childhood years, childhood years. Man, it's crazy how when you get older, those the age between, like I don't know, when you start remembering, like five years old, when you start your memories really start kind of coming, coming together that you can pull back to sort of like five, six, isn't that nuts?

Speaker 2: 16:05

Yeah, it is Five years old.

Speaker 1: 16:07

There's years that go by that you just don't, you're not going to remember so, but even still five years old to you know, through high school, maybe college, those you know to 22, 23, 24, those those years are. So you're a sponge, you know. You just like absorb all that and then that turns into nostalgia for you, whatever was going on at that time period. So for me, you know, some of those locations would be, like you know, my grandfather's house in North Carolina, which was just sold recently.

Speaker 2: 16:34

So that's it's not going to be anymore. I was going to ask if you still have access to it.

Speaker 1: 16:37

Yeah, because, yeah, they both have my grandma and grandpa and my mom's side have both passed away. So that house they, my mom and her brother, they it's sold. So that's, that's gone. It was just, it's so far away.

Speaker 2: 16:48

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 16:49

So we're in the Smoky Mountains and we have obviously, I don't have any family out there other than that, so that was like a very, very unique location that you have early memories of. So it's, it's, it's it's grandpa's house.

Speaker 2: 16:58

It's grandpa's house, yeah, and I had you know it.

Speaker 1: 17:00

You know it has a certain smell to it. It's just like and it was very like. I don't know what the type of wood it was, but the house was very had a very certain. I wish I could remember what the wood is. It's a certain type of wood smell and it was like it didn't smell anywhere else.

Speaker 2: 17:14

Rich, Rich Mahogany.

Speaker 1: 17:15

Rich Mahogany. Yeah, what's that from? This is a movie.

Speaker 2: 17:19

Anker man? I'm pretty sure Anker.

Speaker 1: 17:21

Man, there's a few other locations, like probably you know where I went to school for meteorology, westconn. I won't walk back into the dorms, but that's. You know those locations. Anywhere there's where the major life events happened, where you spent a lot of time. You walk back into it and you can't go there anymore, or you just you just don't. It's very odd.

Speaker 2: 17:42

Or when you go back, it's different. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 17:45

And another thing is like selling your childhood home or having you know the the. The weird thing is that you know if this house was tied to your grandpa in some way, for you, for your memory, and then let's say that an aunt or an uncle was like no, no, no, I think I'm going to, I'm going to take over that house and I think I'm going to update it and I'm going to make it a place where everybody can come. Now it no longer has the same feel that it did when your grandfather was there. So it's like what hurts worse Never being able to, never being able to go back, or being able to go back, but having an entirely different feel when you go back, so it doesn't feel like your favorite place anymore. You know, it's like it's kind of teetering on that edge of like would you rather just say goodbye to that place and not have access to it anymore, or would you rather have it? But now somebody else has taken over and it no longer feels like your favorite people in that space.

Speaker 1: 18:35

It's a good question. I don't know if I have an answer to that right now.

Speaker 2: 18:38

That's a if I do give you an answer?

Speaker 1: 18:40

it is nuts. It's nuts how we. There are certain things like vision of memories and smell. Those are the two that tie to your, to your long term memories really well. I know, I know, specifically, smell is like that's a. I feel weird too, because I've said the word smell like five times. But that's, that is a thing, right, that's a scientific thing that tied very directly to long term memory. So let's talk about the locations and what you want to, you know, discuss on that. So are we talking in the world of photography? That's where we're going to kind of shift this into, and you're talking about your grandma's house and it's not the most picture perfect location, but it is for you, right?

Speaker 1: 19:22

So that's the whole point of this podcast was realism and getting away from being so locked down to and what we, so many people, do it. We do it every day with our phone cameras, where we're looking for some like ridiculous spot or something to look a certain way to post and you're like you have to step out of your shell and ask why? Why am I taking this photo? Why do I care about the exact environment?

Speaker 1: 19:43

Because I just wanted to look good in the photo, or because it's actually capturing the moment and the memory. Right, you shouldn't care what other people view it as, because they're, it's not for them.

Speaker 2: 19:56

No, no, and that's so. You know, like I was posting these photos and to someone. You know somebody might look at the photo of the lamp with the lime green walls and be like dude, you know, like what is that to me, though? Like my grandma's quirky style, is a lot of like. Where I get my inspiration, kind of it's, it's when I look at that house. It's not a house, it is my grandparents like entirely, and I can understand why my grandmother has taken so long trying to sell that house, because she looks around and she sees all of the projects that her and her husband did together. She sees the memories that are tied to each wall. If something isn't tiled, just right, you know it's like oh, I remember when we tried to do that but it didn't. You know, it didn't quite go go in. And then I started thinking about it. I'm like I think a lot more people than we realized deal with this nostalgia on their favorite places, and One of the things that I started thinking about was I had a bride reach out to me recently.

Speaker 2: 20:59

Actually, no, she posted something was like has anybody else's parents sold their childhood home? How did you deal with it? Like what? Because she's just really struggling with the fact that she's never gonna be able to go home. She's never gonna be able to go home for Christmas. And yeah, it sounds so harsh when I'm saying it, but I've gone through the same things. My mom doesn't have my childhood home anymore. My dad passed away. I don't have access to that home anymore. So you know, after my grandfather passed away, we still have this home. It's like it's almost like the catch-22 of like there are places that I can go and I no longer visit anymore because they don't Feel quite right without those people, and then there are some homes that are just Completely ghosts to me, where I don't have access to that anymore, and now it's only a memory. So this bride that I was talking to her name is actually Brooke too. She's really cool.

Speaker 2: 21:50

We were talking about it and I started to realize like you have to say something goodbye to something, to everything at some point. Like you have to say goodbye to everything, I mean and in going into a little bit of like a morbid positioning, I guess is like Nothing in this entire world lasts forever. One. You or your significant other is going to have to say goodbye to the other one first. That's just, that's how it's gonna happen, like if you guys live together until you pass, one of you will have to say goodbye to the other one. You might have to say goodbye to your parents before you say goodbye to your childhood home. And that's really hard and having to deal with that. So some of me was like when she was talking to me, I'm like how beautiful would it be for people who are moving or losing their childhood homes and things like that to hire a photographer to catch those last Moments in there, because now you're saying goodbye to that home as a whole.

Speaker 2: 22:46

You're not saying goodbye to it when you know Mom or dad have passed away and now you have to go through it all on your own. You get to pack up this house with your parents. You get to see them move into their next stage of life. So there's so much um, variation and all of the way in which I Guess we Do. You know what I'm trying to say. Like you can either say goodbye to your family home with your parents, understanding that they're it's bittersweet, but they're also happy to say goodbye to it, or you can say goodbye to your parents first, and which is not ever ideal and having to take care of that house, but then that house is almost has like tainted memories of Having to do that alone and not having your parents to pack it up. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 23:34

Yeah, because your brain is focusing on the what, if, what, what could have been? That's what you're focusing on.

Speaker 2: 23:39

Yeah, so now your childhood home is tainted with that memory of well, dad wasn't supposed to go before that home was supposed to go.

Speaker 1: 23:45

Yep, you know and that's a that's a. That's a tough struggle. There's, and there's, no easy answer to that. There's no way to handle that other than that's, I think, case by case basis right.

Speaker 2: 23:58

But the point of the I mean the point of that entire rant, I guess is just that we're all gonna have to say goodbye to Someone, something, our favorite places nothing, nothing lasts forever. It just won't. And so for me, when I say I want to photograph you as you are today, I mean even the client they've been. The clients that I met in Vermont. You know, I photographed them in their apartment in New Haven and then I went up and I photographed them in Vermont and they, they said, basically before I came, like we don't really know if an in-home session is like what we want to do, and I said, well, why don't we split it in half and we'll do half in-home and we'll do half, you know, at a field close by, or something like that. Because to me it really is important to capture you where you landed in Vermont, and it's so funny, like walking into their house. I almost felt like they never belonged in New Haven, like people hung to Vermont the whole time.

Speaker 2: 24:49

But having that, those photos of the New Haven apartment, those memories, and now Transitioning into the next portion of their lives, I feel like it's easier to say goodbye when you've been photographed in your favorite place. So if that favorite place happens to be an apartment in New Haven that may or may not be unpacked, why not have those photos? If you're packing up with your parents and you're trying to say goodbye to some of your favorite places or, you know, your childhood home, why not hire a photographer to come and capture some of those moments as you're going through the memories, as You're packing up the boxes and you pick up the, the drawings and all of that, which it's a very niche session to have, like a packing up your childhood home session. But If that's the way that you all get to say goodbye and you get to relive that moment with each other, I'm almost like why not do a moving session?

Speaker 1: 25:44

It's, it's you're providing. So what you're the mindset on this use case is you are Removing entirely the concept of. I want to say I'm not tangible. I want to say it's the word for like, just stuff, extra stuff. What's the word I'm looking for? It's like, it's not even goods, it's a oh, I can't think of the word.

Speaker 1: 26:16

But you're removing the concept of something that is simply for visual appeal. You're removing that concept entirely, which is what social media has turned into a very toxic, picture perfect location for everyone feeling the need to be the same and wanting to quote, unquote, level up, which in turn, means to just make it pretty visually appealing. But when there's no soul behind it, what is it? It's an empty shell of something that a million other people are doing, which also is just. It's just stuff. It has no meaning to it.

Speaker 1: 26:58

It kind of coincides with the concept of people afraid of AI art and just typing in something and getting a picture, and there are a lot of artists that are like, oh my God, it's gonna take my job and it's like. If you are in that mindset, I think, say this carefully you are leaning into something that you've forgotten. The whole background and concept of art is essentially the human emotion Put into the photo, whether that's a portraiture or a location, something tied to it that hits some kind of emotion somewhere. You can't get that from AI art because it didn't happen. But in this case you are removing the concept of visual appeal entirely and telling people that this photo shoot could be something worth it because they're gonna walk away with photos 10, 20, 30 years, look back and be pretty happy that they had those photos.

Speaker 2: 27:53

Almost like. Do you remember? It's like an album of like. Do you remember when we said goodbye to mom and dad's house? Yeah, yeah. And how lucky are you to be able to say goodbye? I know it's hard on all different like I'm not saying like so lucky, but like we could only be so lucky to say goodbye to our favorite places, while we still have all of our favorite people.

Speaker 1: 28:14

Yeah, you know it's kind of weird to think about that. There are certain locations and places that isn't it weird that it was like you walked in it the last time and then that's the last time you were there, but you weren't thinking of it at that time.

Speaker 2: 28:24

No, so weird, so weird like.

Speaker 1: 28:29

On a lighter note, it's kind of it's like the concept of like the last time that you listened to a CD in your car, like there was one day that that was the last time you heard a CD.

Speaker 2: 28:39

There's one CD that stayed in that CD player, you know.

Speaker 1: 28:42

That's it.

Speaker 2: 28:42

It never, it never left.

Speaker 1: 28:44

It never left, and it's weird to think about those things that there was. You used to do that thing all the time and there was one more time, so wouldn't it be cool to have photos of that last time that you could look back on?

Speaker 2: 28:57

Right, the last time you were jamming out to that specific CD, that specific song, you know, and it's and I'm not even saying necessarily that you need to even have a photographer to hire to do this thing. I'm saying, if you take your iPhone and you just try to capture every nook and cranny I mean I was taking photos of, like I mean I just I freak myself out and think that every place I go now is gonna be the last time I step on it, because I'm just an idiot, but because I get so scared, I'm like oh, and then, driving away from my grandma's house, I'm crying, I'm like, oh, but I was even trying to take photos of the things that I used to feel like why would grandma do that? You know, like what was that choice, you know? But I wanna look back at those photos someday and be like that was definitely a choice and it was definitely grandma Elaine, you know.

Speaker 2: 29:50

All right, guys, that's part one of today's episode. Just a quick reminder that we record these episodes and divide them into two parts to drop every Tuesday. If you wanna continue this conversation with us, we'll see you in part two.