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Episode #155 B-side Driving Solo: The Ups and Downs of an Uber Driver's Life

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Ever felt alone while doing your gig job? Meet Philadelphia-based Uber driver and member of our telegram group, Frank - the man who finds joy in the solitary nature of his work. Tag along for the ride as we delve into his journey, from buying his first car to the accident that put it out of commission, and the switch to a rented Chevy Bolt EV.

Strap yourself in as we navigate Frank's unique insights into the world of ridesharing. If you thought this business was all about the destination, Frank is about to change your mind. From the self-defense tools he keeps on hand to adventures in Atlantic City, you’ll be gripped by his tales from the road. Furthermore, his stories - the good, the bad, and the downright weird - shed light on a side of the gig economy rarely experienced by the average commuter.

 Don't miss out on this enlightening chat with Frank, where every story is a cue to rethink the way you approach your gig work.

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Speaker 1:

Hi guys, welcome to the gig economy podcast the. B Thank you guys so much for joining us tonight. As you know, this is a Wednesday night where we interview a gig worker creator, and tonight we have a gig worker, although I don't know if he's a creator I never asked I'm not.

Speaker 3:

I'm not creative, you're not creative, no, okay.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, we have Frank. Frank has been in our group, our telegram group, for about what?

Speaker 3:

three months, couple couple months here a few months, couple months so. I learned for a while before I started talking about. That's how you guys were totally normal and totally normal.

Speaker 1:

It would be weird if you jumped in and started like it'd be fine but I'd be like oh, this guy's ready to rock.

Speaker 2:

I'm impressed you actually turned from looking mode into.

Speaker 3:

I love talking. I love talking to people, so much so it's awesome to have a group where it's like this is a very. It's a job that like is very lonely, without you know any co-workers, so yeah, for sure, we talk about that all the time.

Speaker 1:

That's kind of why.

Speaker 3:

I get legitimately depressed if I go weeks without talking passengers.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

It's fun to talk.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, for sure. So so tell us a little bit about who you are, what market you drive in and how you got started in gig work. Frank.

Speaker 3:

I'm in the Philadelphia market, philadelphia, so Southeast Pennsylvania, new Jersey, delaware areas.

Speaker 3:

I got started in this six years ago, started delivering pizzas for Domino's on the side and I love that that was a lot of fun but did not pay very well, so it was purely for fun, something to do on the side. And then did Uber Eats for like a week before my car broke down conveniently so I wasn't able to do that. And then, off and on as I got better cars kept doing pizza delivery. And then I finally got a better car that allowed me to do Uber and I'd always wanted to do Uber because taking rides for so long it was like it was something that was really cool, that you know something would show up super quick. They were nicer than cab drivers, cheaper than cabs, it was seamless and I was like this is something I could do. And then I finally got a nicer car and started doing it.

Speaker 1:

That's amazing. I'm in Philadelphia. What was the reason for it? Just because you wanted more money, or like because you're a full timer right now, right?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'm now full time. Yeah, the past couple months I've been full time. Yeah, Okay. Off and on, but I did. I started doing Uber about a year ago. That was the thing with my account says it's six years old because six years ago I started doing Uber Eats for a week. So I've only been doing Uber for about a year at this point now.

Speaker 1:

How many rides do you have? 1200.

Speaker 3:

Okay, just under 1200. Are you on lift at all? Yeah, so I do lift too, but not nearly as often. I only have like 400 rides and 200 of those are from the introductory bonus, okay. So yeah, I don't really do lift all that often because it doesn't really pay nearly as much as Uber.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

But I keep it on still, just in case something comes in and every now and again something does.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and you never know when Uber's going to deactivate. You run a background check, right, esper yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay, we didn't. We don't have to get into that. So what was your first vehicle that you had when you drove? Uber, so that's how.

Speaker 3:

you're still this vehicle. It's still this vehicle, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And what is that?

Speaker 3:

100 axon.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

Why was it? Why was it in for in for a month? Did you get? I got an accident, oh got you?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but they had to get the parts shipped from like across the country and painted and stuff. So Okay. Yeah, that's a forever.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, that would probably was it during it wasn't the last year, sorry, I started.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it was a couple months ago, okay.

Speaker 1:

I was going to think because I remember during COVID how terrible it was to get anything.

Speaker 3:

You know what I mean. Oh, yeah, yeah, like the whole country shut down. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So usually there was an accident.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, just a small accident. Yeah, some jerk came out in front of me when I was down in the wildwood. Okay, it was going to go along with my best of our stories. Actually, nobody can say that for later if you want, but that was also when I rented the. They gave me a Chevy Bolt EV to rent, okay, at Avis and to drive for Uber and that was a lot of fun, but yeah, I saw that you batteries rough.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what was rough about the battery? Did you have a UV or just the smaller one? No, I had the UV, I had the bigger one, the bigger one. Well, I wouldn't say it's big, but yeah.

Speaker 3:

It's decently big. I liked it. It's a roomy SUV but there's no trunk space. No, but I hated it because you had maximum about 200 miles between it being like 80% full down to 20%. You had like maximum 200. If you were lucky yeah, and that's no go I could be 400 miles a day easily.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like.

Speaker 3:

I cannot do 200 miles, but it takes 45 minutes to charge those. I was sitting at those charging points forever. I was like six in Philadelphia.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, unfortunately it does it. The Bolt won't accept 50 kilowatts at a time, so and Barely ever gets that. If you go to a charge point I can get yeah as long as there's no one else on the other charger, I get like 46. But soon as someone else plugs in, I get like 28.

Speaker 2:

I'm like Just go and block them, Jason. You would.

Speaker 3:

You would do that Well he was I did that a couple times for people to select. Get them. Stop having the charge in the fees stuff, just because I felt nice.

Speaker 1:

Well, it will go. It will. Once you hit 80 per no, it'll keep going at 80%, I think it goes past 80% but it slows down, it goes it slows down significantly.

Speaker 3:

Yes, by the time you're at 90 to 95, it's no faster than charging through your home charger.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Slow one, the home charger. They said I will get 25 miles an hour, so I'll be able to charge it, it's pretty useful, so shouldn't be a bad for a $500 investment? Yeah $500 investment. What do you mean?

Speaker 3:

For what? Get the wall? To get the wall battery at your house. More than that I somebody quoted me five hundred randomly when I was driving.

Speaker 2:

He must have stolen it.

Speaker 1:

Well here's the thing. So the the charger that comes with the car, I can use that I just got quoted 1600 to get the plug put in like the Outlet.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah so.

Speaker 1:

Chevy gave me a thousand and then I'd I have to come up with 680, which I think is fair. My house is a little, you know.

Speaker 3:

That's pretty fair yeah because you'll see a decent amount of money for that month that I did that. I spent $200 on electricity. Oh at the station. That's so cheap. But that's. That is cheap compared to the 6800 a month you can spend.

Speaker 1:

I know.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I know the trade-off is. I hated sitting around, I know close. This one was like 12 miles from my house. I was in nowhere in his hell to go do that, I know 45 minutes before I had to start my shift and it's like you know shit, they're good, is all that time?

Speaker 1:

No, I agree. The yesterday I went out and charged before I did it Amazon route. I get to the warehouse and they gave me a freebie. They didn't have any boxes, so I charged for 45 minutes and then went to the warehouse and they sent me home not complaining, but I'm like, yeah, I spent 45 minutes just watching Seinfeld on Netflix for but then you don't have to do that tomorrow.

Speaker 2:

Hey, so you said about a year ago you started on over full-time. What? What made you make that change?

Speaker 3:

Oh, I really. It was that I needed a car for my living situation, to get to my day job. I needed a car because I was full-time working for home and they started being as come in Like once or twice a week. So I had to finally buckle down and get a car so I wasn't be the train stations anymore, okay, and I was like what this was, you know, a year ago, with COVID markets, covid making the vehicle market still top to terry v. It's more expensive to buy a used car than as a new one.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I didn't really care about the depreciation On it, since I'm gonna have it for the whole life of the vehicle. So I was just like screw it. I was buying you car that way. I know I'm the only one putting all the miles on it. I want to worry about what the hell else somebody did with it 40,000 miles ago. Yeah, so yeah, which recall. Yeah, I'm very happy I did it, you know.

Speaker 3:

It's. It's not that bit much different than having a used car, to be honest with the price of it, and it's nice to know that I'm the only one that put all the miles on it and I take care of it religiously.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, are you pretty a stickler on maintenance. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. How often you get an oil change.

Speaker 3:

Every 5,000 right on the car.

Speaker 1:

What is that like? Once a month, yeah holy, yeah, it's not so bad.

Speaker 3:

But what should I call it? And then I do the rotation and the line that Firestone offers a $200 lifetime alignment, so that's pretty sweet, because otherwise they're $100 each. And you have to do that each oil change, every tire rotation. Why do you grind the long trip?

Speaker 1:

so much I see you talk about that. I love the long trip, I love driving.

Speaker 3:

Driving is like my favorite thing, but I hate city driving. I hate the stop and go and constant traffic, which is why I drive at night, because even at night there's not much city traffic. But I love highway driving so much. It is so easy to get on the highway, hit cruise control and talk, talk the whole night and they pay decently well for what it is. You know, I know I have to dead head back.

Speaker 1:

Most of the time with those.

Speaker 3:

Depending on where they get they take me. Eventually I'll have to dead head back, yeah, but it's not that bad, because usually they tip pretty well, the long ones too, especially like airport trips, do you have up front pricing?

Speaker 1:

Oh, no, we do have a front price and the long right here, just shit. Yeah, no, they're decent here for Uber they're very reasonable.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and so do you have a negotiator return rate no I never do anything like that.

Speaker 2:

I don't have a lot of money, I don't have a lot of money.

Speaker 3:

No, I never do anything like that, but I always get hit pretty recently, so I don't really worry about that. My car gets incredible gas mileage for what it is. It can get 40 50 miles a gallon on the highway just because I drive like a grandma, so I don't mind, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I don't have that on mine. I could tell you that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And he's got a leg foot.

Speaker 2:

Hey, do we have to bring that up all the time? You gotta be conscious.

Speaker 3:

You gotta make the conscious decision to not speed.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh once you're wearing the.

Speaker 3:

It's a very hard thing to get over for it. Learn that the brake pedal is for stopping, not slowing down slow down by letting go of the gas.

Speaker 2:

Most times I get about 22 23 miles per gallon which I think that's pretty good.

Speaker 3:

That's pretty good. That's about average, for it's exactly.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I was getting 17 on a good day with my pilot. So, I know I've gone, I'm going from that to an ev, so I'm really looking forward to get my turn.

Speaker 2:

No, you have your. You have your solar power panels.

Speaker 1:

Can we start?

Speaker 2:

talking about frank and not you, jason.

Speaker 1:

No, hey, he brought it up bitch hey I don't have problem, I'll talk about anything, bro asshole.

Speaker 2:

He's so excited he doesn't have fuel costs.

Speaker 3:

I know so go ahead. Yeah, that's gotta be awesome.

Speaker 1:

Go ahead, yes, sir.

Speaker 2:

No, I was just gonna say so what make you, I mean so?

Speaker 1:

so a year ago you bought the car and then you want to know what was the flip, the switch to be, like you know.

Speaker 2:

But you were working from home, oh yeah.

Speaker 3:

Because I was an accountant. Oh, okay, yeah. So working from home gave me the opportunity to put lots of miles on the car for doing Uber, and not lots of miles community day today, okay, yeah. And so, yeah, you know, for so long I'd taken ubers and lifts and be like I really want to do this at some point and looking forward to doing it in the future. And I finally got the car and I was like all right, got the car, now I'm gonna start doing this thing, bang-bang, boom. And turns out I fell in love with it from the first day I started it so you quit a car and you're doing accounting.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I did that quit a while ago. Yeah, okay it's very stressful, incredibly stressful. Yep no time since I quit has flown by. I could have ever imagined, just because all that job was worrying about the next four weeks, yep.

Speaker 2:

Yeah no.

Speaker 1:

I see sometimes it's not worth the stress, you know.

Speaker 3:

No, yeah, eight years of stressing out about the next three or four weeks and then month-end close is just too too much yeah.

Speaker 2:

I guess we talked. We don't spend enough time talking about that benefit as well by being by this kind of job, right?

Speaker 3:

cuz you really don't have stress free.

Speaker 2:

You don't really have to worry about it, and then you can just drive, turn the app on and you will make money. I mean, yeah, I just drive.

Speaker 3:

I drive and I pick up Passengers high readings to make sure I don't get people that have peepers and chill like that and and I just drive.

Speaker 1:

I'm the total opposite though. Like rideshare adds anxiety for me, like having people in the car and stuff like. That's why, like Amazon and food delivery and and stuff like that, I find that I I feel I'm more at ease doing that because I just I feel Like I need to be on you know like try to engage and then okay, Is this guy gonna Stab me in the neck? Cuz you sat right behind me and not so I can't see you and now I got this car that's smaller and everything's closer.

Speaker 1:

I don't know it causes me anxiety.

Speaker 2:

Just happen to move over.

Speaker 3:

But that's why you know you keep, keep mace and stuff on you.

Speaker 1:

I know uber allows.

Speaker 3:

The only thing uber allows is mace is a self-defense tool. This is not a weapon, so you keep mace on, they do. Yeah, they allow me, they allow self-defense tools. So you can't have a knife, you can't have a gun. You have self-defense tools in a taser or mace and taser. Yeah, I have a taser and you wrap.

Speaker 1:

Interesting I have. Those are very expensive.

Speaker 3:

I would and it's much harder to like get somebody with a taser compared to pepper spray.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you're gonna get yourself a pepper spray to get the whole going like that.

Speaker 2:

But you'll hit yourself in the face too.

Speaker 3:

Well, that's why you get the pepper gel, because the gel goes straight ahead.

Speaker 1:

It doesn't spray like yeah, but then then you got to aim though, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Swing your whole arm around like that to get the guy who's gonna still be several inches back there. I mean fair, because they're not gonna be up there trying to do they're gonna be back there, I Think, all this stuff through a head time.

Speaker 2:

That's amazing. So why do we go into you talking about your, your, your best and your worst worries? Cuz I mean, we kind of so I got Best worst okay, so my best, worst is fun because I was.

Speaker 3:

I went down to Atlantic City everybody's Atlantic City, new Jersey. South of that way down south is Is where all the beach towns are of New Jersey everybody loves wildwood is a very popular one went down there. I earned five hundred dollars, like five hundred twenty dollars, over the course of like about eleven hours I think ten, eleven hours that season because it was there was Memorial Day weekend, that's that was. I think it's Memorial Day. That just happened in May. That was that. And then I was like, oh sweet, this is awesome. I went down the next night, sunday night, made 18 dollars off of three cancels because of no shows and one like two mile trip and it was just nothing for like two hours and then I had the app off. I'm just driving around and then boom, I got into an accident and guess what?

Speaker 1:

my deductible is 500 bucks okay, so you weren't online and it was not an accident.

Speaker 3:

No, I didn't have anybody, I was Just a shitty situation one way streets that are crazy cramped and guy wasn't paying attention shocker. Yeah, but yes, that was a shitty situation, but then I'd say my worst, my best, I don't really know all, because almost all my trips are super chill. Yeah, I always have like awesome we chill passengers. I never get people that are frustrated or angry. If they are, it's because they were already angry.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they got in the car, you know, and your goals to come that way, can't do nothing yeah.

Speaker 3:

But, so I have a lot of bests of just really happy, awesome three, four passenger car, you know trips where we're just having a lot of fun talking up, being goofy the whole night, the whole time, and then just lots of Times of just you know, I keep you know the hundreds I've gone through that I can't remember but lots of talkative passengers that have wonderful stories. That's why I really love this job. There's all the awesome stories I hear about people's lives.

Speaker 1:

Yes, bird Is it does Frank remind you of Ben at all.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, totally.

Speaker 1:

Just like, except the hair.

Speaker 2:

Ben doesn't have the hair.

Speaker 1:

No, you, you have the hair for sure, but Ben was always like I just love the conversations I meet, so many unique. Oh yeah, and it's just like so cool which which it is, but like again, I Is, it's not for me. And you drive at night too, do you find? Like, oh yeah, I almost still talk so I get headaches.

Speaker 3:

I get headaches and stuff on this song, but yeah, I still get tons of frequent conversations in the middle of the night. Yeah, that's why I go back with saying like, if I get several days without a passengers, I get sad, because most times I really don't have talkative people. It's only a few times a night where it'll be talkative. If it's the middle of the night, there's a lot of locals and failure that are doing a traveling the night okay, right.

Speaker 3:

Not like a tourist and stuff, so it's not too much to talk about. But occasionally There'll be somebody that's a tourist and like came from the Phillies game or something like that. So I get that phone so.

Speaker 1:

So if you get chatty into the telegram group, we know you're lonely and you haven't talked to anybody in a while.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I just fucking love talking.

Speaker 2:

I love it so much For so many hours maybe that's why I'm not enough chatty, jason, because I have so many chatty customers, because most of the ones I pick up I'm drunk.

Speaker 1:

I say, if you're so, if you like to talk, you should start a podcast.

Speaker 3:

No, I can never start a podcast. I don't like to be out in public like. This is as far as I would go, with me having a front-facing public family, but yeah, but that's why I love, that's why, also, why I do the night is because the drunk passengers are so much fun. Yeah, right, if I was like oh, don't you hate the drunk, so why do you work at night? It's like no, those are my favorite.

Speaker 2:

Me, that's always fun.

Speaker 3:

They're almost never, you know, to intoxicate.

Speaker 1:

I need to go to Philly.

Speaker 3:

They're pretty good.

Speaker 1:

I need to go to Philly. It's a pretty big, I know, but my point is like I never. I mean, I do get some fun people, but most of time maybe it's my attitude, maybe you my attitude.

Speaker 3:

Gotta be happy, always have a smile. I wear a mask, usually Excuse me. I always wear a mask, but I still smile underneath because you can tell if you can see it and you can hear it when you speak.

Speaker 1:

Oh for sure difference. Yeah, I, it's probably my attitude for sure.

Speaker 3:

Always be happy and cheerful. I gotta tell my passengers a lot. This is like the best customer service job in the world, because customer service is about solving the problem for the customer. Yep and you showing up are solving the problem right down there. You're not having to deal with somebody that are registered as furious ahead of time.

Speaker 2:

My mama you show up problem solved, they're happy to get in your company car so so you know you didn't bring this up as your worst right or anything that, but I gotta ask you anyways have you ever had to throw anybody out of your car?

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, not not tons, but I'd say like three or four times I've had to do it, and why? Just in time to intoxicated to intoxicate Okay. Yeah, one time a guy got poured into the car. Yeah, I have to say, I say a lot they. If they, if they look like they're about to get poured into my car, I pull out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't say with that crap.

Speaker 3:

Because that's what it is when they, when you got two people helping you get into a car and you can barely get in yourself Like it literally looks like you're being poured into a car like you're liquid and that's a no-go. That's like a hundred and ten percent like they are going to have a problem right something, or they're gonna get sick and somewhere. Yeah. So that happened one time and he was like I don't even wanna go. He was fighting the woman who was helping him get the car in the first place and I was like perfect sounds good, get out Of my car.

Speaker 3:

I drove a half mile down the street around the corner. I was like I get out there. You go bars right back there. You want to go back it was like three-thirty in the morning, so they're already.

Speaker 1:

It's win-win.

Speaker 3:

And then one time I had somebody that was just making the making the vomit burps.

Speaker 3:

Tell you's grown in and he was like oh no, we still had 20 minutes to go and it was just about to get on the highway. I was like I'm not pulling him around the highway, you're gonna get out right here. I'm sorry, bud. And his friend was like totally cool, I understand, his friend was sober, oh, and he was trying to like ease him the whole time about like oh, it's okay, man, we'll be there soon. I was like I'm not, I'm not playing this roulette, you can get out right here at this gas station. And he was like okay, that's fine. Sorry, I was like thank you for at least understanding Most people wouldn't mind.

Speaker 2:

Have you ever frozen people out like you like? The trick we use is you just open all windows, cool the car down like a down, and then that'll really slow them down. Have you done that?

Speaker 3:

What well, give there like to intoxicate If you're?

Speaker 2:

worried about them puking. Just roll down all your windows.

Speaker 3:

Oh no, I'm not gonna risk that, because the moment that stuff gets on your paint that starts eating away at your paint. I'm not risking having my brand new car paint being all my stuff like that either.

Speaker 1:

What we do is I. I don't roll the windows down, but I just turned the air on full blast cuz like anytime if you've had the flu cold AC helps. Yeah, you've had the flu you're, you're hot and you're uncomfortable and like being cold is the best and so like, cuz you know You're getting the sweats and you're just like, so I just freeze them out and just like okay.

Speaker 3:

I'm dying a nice car helps.

Speaker 1:

I'm like dying. It's a middle of winter and I got the fucking air on.

Speaker 3:

I'm just like yeah, you know the cold air helps them. So that's true, I always do. I always have a crank in the first place because I love the cold. So, yeah, I had the other night I had picked up a family from the airport, a family of two mom, dad. There's two little boys couldn't more than like three or four. And we're like halfway through the ride and she's like are you getting tired? Yeah, she's like you, okay, he's like yeah, tired and cold.

Speaker 1:

I have a question as far as like you just do uber, do you maximize? Like, what kind of incentives do you have in your market? Do you have like quests or are you? Do you get?

Speaker 3:

we have the, we have the quests I guess they're called where you do like 20 trips, you get 30 bucks or whatever the other way around. Okay they. They go all this scale on the web, like 90 trips for like a hundred bucks or whatever. I never do any of that crap. I just do the lowest with tier ones, because it's you're gonna make more being selective about your trips in the first place.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I that that new little program hasn't come to Grand Rapids, that where it goes on how much money you've made, you know like it.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I've seen that, yet hasn't come here either.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because, like this, weekend I got 60 rides for 260, you know I mean.

Speaker 3:

although I wouldn't really complain if that came here. I've thought off and on about that because it seems like it works out about the same you think.

Speaker 1:

I mean they they they.

Speaker 3:

Uber is a multi-billion dollar company. They've got people they pay well into the six figures to do research on this stuff.

Speaker 1:

I'm sure, it's really the same I.

Speaker 3:

it's not gonna be so wildly different as to Cost backlash, because it would have gone away.

Speaker 1:

I don't. I just I disagree, because some of those are like you earn $400, you get like 20 bucks. I mean like I oh, is that poor Some of them that's, that's pissed. We talked about it like no, it was very bad. Now it, those quests could have been bad in their area already too. So it may be equal. You're right. I will say you might be right. It may be equal for them in their market.

Speaker 1:

But I looked at I'm like 400 bucks, I get $20 bonus like she. That's pretty. I would rather just you know.

Speaker 3:

I from what I saw I thought I saw they were like hundred on bonuses for doing like four or five hundred you know that's like decent. That's not bad. I'm not quite sure, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So do you have those on? You have any aspirations of doing anything else but uber, and you know I like what's what's your.

Speaker 3:

No, you're just gonna keep on grinding. I'm happy doing this. Yeah, I've been driving for people, it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 1:

I just love working at night.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I love the night show. Yeah, I've never had a job. I've always wanted to work at night and I never had a job or like that would pay you reasonably well and allow to work at night, right, and so this came around what kind of as a wrapping up.

Speaker 1:

I'm asking all kinds of questions as far as like gas, like do you use a specific gas app, or do you use like to save money?

Speaker 3:

Oh, I used to use physical gas upside. Grid wise oh grid wise upside. Yeah, no, not upside grid wise. Why was fucking sweet? Because at one point they were given like 50 cents off a gallon and I was eating that up every day.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

I was maxing that out every month. Um I and yeah, they were losing way too much money off of giving everybody 50 cents off a gallon, you pay $10 a month thing at 50 cents off a gallon for a hundred, oh, you're saving $40 a month.

Speaker 3:

You see $50 in gas. Yeah right, spend 10 bucks to save 50 bucks a month. It was awesome for what it lasted. But no, I just use the scenario app and I have a credit card that gives me 5% back on gas. So we find you know you're never gonna find any better gas card Then like four or five percent Um, what's my color? I think it's 10 federal credit union or some some pen Bank that offers it. It's a pretty sweet, job pretty sweet.

Speaker 1:

You know you can't get more savings with an uber pro card. I.

Speaker 3:

Don't know, I'm not, but uber pro, is that the one you pay for? No it's not uber one, it's what's uber pro is like the blue gold. So yeah, those are your status.

Speaker 1:

But it's just the debit card that you get from them that you can use, and the higher the status like, the better percentage like I think you can get all I'm never past.

Speaker 3:

Oh no, you know my acceptance rates like 40%.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's better than mine. Pretty good, I'm blue too.

Speaker 3:

I've never, I've never excelled I've never been higher than like 50% acceptance rate.

Speaker 1:

I don't know how I'm used to gold, but oofie.

Speaker 3:

And then, like every time I have to take it uber personally, like to get my car if I have to leave it at a shop somewhere or something. It's like the driver's like diamond, it's like what the fuck are you taking every single ride. Our bonuses not worth it. The only thing that might be worth it is the airport extra thing. But you know you're gonna have a hundred other drivers that are also diamond.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, competing for that shit too. It's crazy. I mean, even in our market you don't have the airport benefits anything, because we have like.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, your efforts are small, Philadelphia is massive.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's.

Speaker 1:

It's kind of small, the only thing that I would take advantage of, if I was, diamond is back to the EV, but they don't. They give you like 40% off EV charging but that's not, but the, the company that they use isn't as only in Detroit right now, it's not in Grand.

Speaker 2:

Rapids, so I'm just as a drive to out to Detroit, oh yeah, that that that makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what happened. Okay, but anyways, we're coming up on 30 minutes, so you got to get to work and, yes, we're not gonna go to bed. I. Gotta drive it, I gotta drive a school bus in the morning, so.

Speaker 3:

I'm not going to work tonight. I usually take off Tuesdays and Wednesdays. I'm going to see Oppenheimer.

Speaker 1:

Oh, are you yeah?

Speaker 3:

70 millimeter, 30, 70 millimeter.

Speaker 1:

I'm actually got an IMAX bike because there's only like 27. There's, I think, 30.

Speaker 3:

East Coast. King of Prussia is like 10 minutes outside of Philly. That's got we actually. You guys have one yeah.

Speaker 2:

We do, we have. We have multiple IMAX, but one of them actually got the big Oppenheimer.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, 70 millimeter. That's the one you want to see. That, that's what Christopher Nolan said is let's be honest though let's be Frank. I don't know the difference.

Speaker 1:

Exactly like. Am I gonna know that? Am I gonna like have fun in my pants when I see this, compared to watching? On my video what I'm gonna be looking for Exactly like I feel like you need to Google it before you go. So be like what you're looking for, because, like that's a good idea.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, now, I'll do that first, so that I know, like, what I'm paying.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and then you can report back to us and be like, hey, don't do it, it's not worth it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah or maybe it'll be totally.

Speaker 1:

I know I'm excited for the feedback.

Speaker 3:

I haven't seen an IMAX since I was like five years old, I don't remember it's been really pumped for.

Speaker 1:

It's been so long.

Speaker 2:

It's a giant screen. I love IMAX.

Speaker 3:

I heard they had they had to do some technological advancements with the IMAX Systems okay because Oppenheimer is three hours long, like 182 minutes, and they've never had an IMAX movie that long and since they use actual, real, like yeah film, it's 11 miles of film. I know, I know and they had to actually make the thing that holds that much filming to make it bigger.

Speaker 2:

It will not hold anymore. There's, that's it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's like right on the edge, like anymore would just fall.

Speaker 2:

Justice, the medal it will not hold anymore.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I saw a video on that Well cool We'll have fun that, watching that and report back on the group.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much for coming on. Yeah, thank you for having me.

Speaker 1:

This is appreciate it and, yeah, we'll catch you next time if I ever talked.

Speaker 3:

I talk a lot. Oh no, not at all.

Speaker 2:

So are we gonna see you at the picnic.

Speaker 3:

I probably not. It's to do it 11 and a half hour drive, but who knows? Baby.

Speaker 2:

I mean, come on, he's only. It's only 11 and a half hours, come on.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, I mean, that's you know, I do you that every other day Think of what, what Janet is doing here.

Speaker 2:

Come on, where's Janet coming from? New Zealand, she's driving for New Zealand.

Speaker 3:

Driving, but what is?

Speaker 1:

it like a like a 23 hour flight.

Speaker 2:

We said something like that I mean not straight.

Speaker 1:

She's got a fly to like oh, I don't know, somewhere, maybe Australia and then Australia.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, there's a couple of layovers, but it's like, wow, I didn't have flights into that was because I don't think, I don't think the app was 22 hours.

Speaker 2:

She says 22 hours.

Speaker 1:

I was one hour but the picnics on the 23rd. That's where the number came from.

Speaker 2:

Maybe, there's a pretty good a bnb sub here you can. You can pick up, pick up. Oh yeah, bnb, and what's his name? Oh?

Speaker 1:

my John.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, john would be south of him.

Speaker 1:

He's south of.

Speaker 2:

Georgia. He's on the.

Speaker 3:

East Coast, I'd have to go yeah, this way to get to you guys, I'd be going like a big old you shave just to get out of adding like an extra 10.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, don't go down it.

Speaker 3:

Where are you?

Speaker 1:

Who? John? No, yeah, I'm in North Carolina. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Oh no, carolina. Oh no, that's cool. That's like I have to drive out of yeah, you'd have to go south.

Speaker 1:

Larry's in Kentucky, yeah, and John's or Tom's in Chicago. That's, that's yeah. No, don't let yes for peer pressure. He always peer pressures out of towners to come. So Well, it'll be cool to come we'll be able to hang out after the picnic and stuff all the odds out. Well, I'll hang out with anybody, doesn't have to just be out of towners.

Speaker 3:

But Doesn't have to be over, no, or listeners of the podcast, whoever happens to be walking on the street.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, I'm talking way back, so we don't get too many randos, but we did remember last year yes, sir, we had that one guy. I know, I think he was a driver, I, but I think he just came upon us.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I know he wasn't planning on it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and then he won something too, and I was like yeah, yeah we can. We can afford a hamburger for him, Anyways all right, frank have a good night, enjoy the movie. Thank you. This podcast is produced and edited by hey guys media group. Want to start a podcast? Check out hey guys media group. Calm oh oh.

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