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Ep. # 161 Uber is a drug mule, Taco Bell will pay you 5 bucks, and much more!
Dive straight into the heart of gig work with us as we unravel the layers of Uber's data. Imagine using this data to inform city planners, or even for selling as data sets in a data-driven gig economy. We also dissect the emerging market disruptor, Empower, and its potential threat to Uber and Lyft's business model.
Our discussion doesn't stop there. Brace yourself as we delve into a contentious incident involving a Lyft driver refusing to switch off his Christian music for a Jewish rider. This sparks a debate on the driver's rights and the delicate balance of providing customer service in ride-sharing services. Don't forget to meet Janet at Riverside Park in Grand Rapids and join us in our upcoming picnic on September 23rd. Let's continue this thrilling journey together, one episode at a time.
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Good evening everybody. I almost said good evening Vietnam, but that's a different thing, different show. I just tell them how old I am. So good evening everybody. Tonight we are going to be talking about a newish app that is entering the market. Well, has been in the market for a little bit. Some of the bigger cities Talking about Uber as a drug mule, Taco Tuesday and lots of other fun stuff. If you haven't already, go to gigakonomachewcom and sign up for our newsletter and get notified when. What Jason.
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Speaker 1:The Seaman oh, Jason sounds bad.
Speaker 2:Thank you, Omar.
Speaker 1:I don't think he's sound that bad yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, they don't, so they don't hear. Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 1:So, nate, he's interesting, the Seaman either. He's a new follower.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's from Florida. That's pretty cool. I don't think we have a chance to talk about it, but remember when we were ripping him did we talk about it on the last show?
Speaker 1:And then, he's like hey, this is me the guy that didn't spell right on the review or whatever, whatever, but I appreciate it so much, nate, that you have reviewed us and appreciate for being a follower and a fan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and a Patreon.
Speaker 1:Everybody else do, like Nate, go to patreoncom the GigaCon podcast, or go to patreoncom and search for the GigaCon podcast and sign up. You can either do the cheaper tier, which is $5 a month, or you can do the $10 tier, which I almost forget the name of it.
Speaker 2:It's the Unicorn Ride, yeah, the.
Speaker 1:Unicorn Ride. For anybody who's been around long enough to know what a unicorn ride is, Every time we got a ride that was over $100. We refer to that as a unicorn ride.
Speaker 2:So anyways, what's the $5 tier name? I don't know. I'll tip you in the app. I'll tip you in the app, that's right, I'm a pro tonight.
Speaker 1:I remember all these stuff. Anyways, go to patreoncom slash GigaCon podcast and sign up for the $10 tier and after three months you get merch and all kinds of other stuff. You get to listen to the episodes without apps.
Speaker 2:And what?
Speaker 1:else.
Speaker 2:You get a Patreon bonus.
Speaker 1:You get a Patreon bonus.
Speaker 2:Which we'll be doing tonight.
Speaker 1:Yep, that's right, you get the post show, the post show. So this is just basically two old geese talking about our pains, talking about our pain points, yeah, so 9.10 pm tonight.
Speaker 2:You still have an opportunity if you are on the $5 tier, which we 100% appreciate. If you want to upgrade to the 10, you get the post show tonight and all the extra goodies. So also want to talk about the Telegram group. It's a great area to join and talk about gig work. That's basically what it is.
Speaker 4:It doesn't need anything more than that?
Speaker 2:Mostly well, there's, I wouldn't say most, I would say mostly Grand Rapids, but North.
Speaker 1:Carolina and for people who don't know what Telegram is, what is the Telegram group? A place where everyone talks about gig work. But why is it called the Telegram group? That's the name of the app, because we're using an app called the Telegram app. Yes, and then you have, once you download the app, you have to click on the link sign up for the group. Yep, join us, say hello, say where your market you're from, and if you don't say that, we're going to ask you Yep and come join in all the chatter. I know both me and Jason we're going to be in there this weekend for cool.
Speaker 2:Are you a lot, are you?
Speaker 1:I am.
Speaker 2:Are you actually going to speak? I? Yeah. Okay, we'll see everyone.
Speaker 1:You heard it here, I'm going to be driving somewhere between 15 and 20 hours this weekend. I'm going to do it. All right, it's on the record as it's on the record. So, anyways, if you haven't listened to it already, go after the show. I was going to say, go right now, but don't go right now. Go after the show and listen to last week's episode, the B side. We'll be talking to Jenna, who is a Uber driver who has Tourette's, and it's just doing some really cool stuff. She's using the platform to just spread the knowledge about people with Tourette and how people should deal with it, both people with Tourette's and people without it, how they can approach each other and better communication. She's doing some cool stuff. It was a really, really cool episode and I really liked it, and so go listen to that.
Speaker 2:And our picnic is coming up on January.
Speaker 1:Nope strike that September 23rd from two to four. Jenna almost got worried.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's like shit, I'm planning my whole vacation around this, yeah, so definitely plan to join us. I'm sure if you've listened to the audio podcast, you've heard our annoying ad that will be stopping very soon. I realize I probably put it on too soon.
Speaker 1:I like it, though it's good. Yeah Well, thank you.
Speaker 2:That's a good ad. I appreciate that. But yeah, we have some giveaways we're working on right now. I have a doc open right now that I've been planning for food and that kind of stuff. I know Janet's bringing a few items herself.
Speaker 1:That's some cool stuff. I guess some regular things from down under.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:So I'm not necessarily thinking about there, but recipes from there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she packed it in her carry on and she's going to hold it for six weeks.
Speaker 1:Is she traveling six weeks?
Speaker 2:No, but I mean between I think it was over a month, because she went to Australia for a couple of weeks too. Yeah, I don't know, but yeah, she's back a little bit.
Speaker 1:But yeah, but we definitely super, super excited to meet her and get to meet her in person.
Speaker 2:And that week she will be on the show.
Speaker 1:She will be on the show in person In this, and you better clean up this studio. Oh my God.
Speaker 2:It's so bad you guys can't see it, but it's terrible it smells down here.
Speaker 1:There is a small dead critters in the corner. There is a funk down here I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2:I was just telling Jesper before we started live I'm like it stinks bad down here, like stale farts. He's like well, it's not me. I was like no, I think it's me, because I smelled like that before he got here. So anyways stories from the road. Don't have any. Didn't drive Labor Day weekend? Nope, I don't think I drove the weekend before or maybe I did? I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's been a month since I've driven. I've been getting the little notices from my app that I should turn my app off. I put it in the notebook. Oh, from Octopus, yeah, octopus.
Speaker 2:Yeah, have you driven for Uber since you got?
Speaker 1:I have not See, that's so funny, you've been bitching for two months.
Speaker 2:I got busy, man, I know, I know, I know I have a shit going on, but I am excited.
Speaker 1:This week will be the first weekend back on Uber, yeah, and pretty excited about it, although my bonus isn't really that great, but it's okay. You know, I think if we do 70 writes it's like 260s.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a little flat, but I think Jesper and I were talking before the show. I mean, obviously Uber watches the algorithms and the numbers and they know the college kids are back. They've seen that, they saw their revenue jump and they're like, oh, we don't need to offer these guys.
Speaker 1:Well, they also know what happened last year, so it's not like they have to watch the revenue. Well, no, I know.
Speaker 2:I mean, I just can you imagine the amount of data they have on every city they're in? Oh, absolutely they could probably tell the city planners more information than they know.
Speaker 1:There's so much value in all that data sets. They should sell the data they have. They would make the whole money.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's do a gig economy. In the news we have a lot of videos and pictures tonight, so that's good for us, because we're dumb, we don't like to read which is beautiful for us.
Speaker 2:First up, there's just a guy that just okay, so they do use the N word at the end. I didn't bleep it out so just to let you know. I didn't want anyone to be surprised by it. But just a guy that's not going to put up with this guy's bullshit. It's a little hard to make out, but hopefully you'll figure it out and we'll chat about it here we go Basketball.
Speaker 5:why don't you pull it down here? What's your name, brother? I'm outside playing basketball, brother. I'm locked down my crib. Why don't you pull it to my crib? Well, I told you come to the rim when you see me go.
Speaker 3:Wait, wait, wait. Don't talk to me like that my brother that's cool, I appreciate you my money already spent, brother.
Speaker 5:That's not my fault. My brother, I feel you because your request right here, I have to come here. If you had any problem, just request another one. My brother, no, I'm not. My money gone. Okay, doesn't matter, but not Shut up, Go because. No, no, no, no, no, no, go, go, go, go. No, I'm not going to let you talk to me like that. Request another one.
Speaker 5:Oh you open this, though. I will call the police right now. You're going to request my over. No, no, no, no. Get out of my car. My brother, uber is requesting you right here, get out. No, no, no, no, no, you're not. You're not. You're not going to treat me like that, my brother, I feel you, I'm doing my job. No, no, no. Just call me and say my brother, say you call me my brother. Why don't you open in the door man, a man Call the door, say something like that. Say something like that. Tell my other police man Get out. No, no, no. So where my money at, leo baby? Uh, uh, your money, uber, we'll give you money back. And I mean, I don't deal with that. Well, that ain't happening on Mac today. Bitch, fuck you, tom out, because you open this door, like you with that nigga, not quarter cops. Mom, leo baby, just put on this. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:He called his mom at the end. It was hard to kind of tell a little bit. But basically I think what happened was he pulled up to the address that was requested and the guy was playing hoops. It's like how am I supposed to know that it is? And I like that the guy the second he told him to shut up, or at the beginning he was like out, get out. So I mean it's just one of those things.
Speaker 1:That's what you do, you agree? You're big on the get out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love people that. Just don't put up with anybody bullshit and I think they. I think the driver was calm too, like he didn't Cuss back at him or anything like that. So I think it was it was a Equal opportunity. No not equal opportunity, it was just a good. I think it was a good video to show what you're supposed to do and don't put up with anyone. Like what I say at the end but don't put it up with anyone's bullshit. That's bullshit.
Speaker 1:Well, how is he supposed to know to pull up anywhere else?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and, of course, what we've always said to if you're a new driver, you're gonna get a one-star right Like you. Might as well cut your losses right there, cancel it, move on with life. The only things you could run into is the person decides not to get out, and then that's like a whole thing.
Speaker 1:But then you have to do the. You know, do the thing he said he was gonna do a call the police now, yeah, but it's like us that's so frustrating to right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm glad it just didn't escalate to violence.
Speaker 1:Well, at least you don't see the violence, because he still hadn't gone out yet.
Speaker 2:I mean, well, clearly, at a dash cam. I think it was a van. True, it's all in the left-hand corner, so yeah, all right, next up. I'm excited to hear this.
Speaker 8:This place.
Speaker 2:John has driven for them for empower yeah Down in North Carolina.
Speaker 1:So empower is a new right, one new ish, I should say, ab, that is in the market, in some market, for some of the bigger cities. Basically, there's article goes that uber and lift obviously, as we know, has been around forever. I tried to. Hundreds of millions of customers across globe, blah, blah, blah, blah. There and the ad goes they have done so by undercutting the price points offered by taxi Cabin. Can't companies undercutting? Anyways, by now uber and lift are facing their own market disruptor, one that potentially poses a mortal threat to their business model. Enter empower Mm-hmm, now, we've seen these kind of models before, this kind of this kind of app model. So so what differentiate empower from the other ones is that you pay a set fee every month for empower, okay, and then you get to set your own price.
Speaker 2:Oh, maybe it wasn't John. I swear to God it was John. Who did we talk to, was it Frank?
Speaker 1:But I didn't think it was in power. I think it was one of the other ones that did kind of do the same. There's a number of maps on the market that does this. Apparently in power, is doing pretty well, particularly in some of the on the East Coast cities.
Speaker 2:But East South like like North Carolina.
Speaker 1:Well, I was more thinking like like.
Speaker 1:Boston and some of those East and East and coast, it's anyways, but but those are also markets where that's that ginormous markets, right, and there's room for other Other thing, because in medium-sized markets we all know this, I mean, it's only gonna work if they market. In the market there's actually drivers yeah. There's passengers doing using the app yeah, there's no way I'm gonna pay them. Now. They said the most expensive tier with empower is 249. I think it was. You could pay them 249 dollars a month and then you get to use their platform for free after that and you get To keep all the money. Okay, so it's a subscription model, you get to keep all of it, right, so the same thing. But but basically what they're saying is that, sorry, you're right, in power currently operates North Carolina, new York and Washington DC. Sorry, not Boston, new York and DC.
Speaker 2:Hey guys, he didn't even read the article.
Speaker 1:I did read, it was just my gosh. So you're such a, you're such a dork. So, anyways, after paying the fee, driver said their own rates and receive a hundred percent of the payment for each ride. In Contrast with you know, uber and lift take steep commissions, steep commissions on each. I wonder, wonder, if this is a sponsor at 4 for a power.
Speaker 2:Probably is I mean.
Speaker 1:So yeah, it's just, it's just, it's just weird, but anyways. So there's a guy here that says I've been using in power for about a month. I found its service to be generally accident. While the quality of empower cars is sometimes of a lesser quality to those of lifts and Uber, such distinctions are marginal. Empower drivers are also abundant in DC, making this for short ride, for short wait times. More importantly, I found that around 85% of the time in power, rights Are at least 15 to 30% cheaper than lift, and over now I must say that we were in DC, we were using another company I forget what it was called and they were way cheaper than lift.
Speaker 2:I wonder if lift was super expensive. I wonder with with those apps that allow the driver to keep all of it? They actually charge less but still are making more money because Uber's taking it and lifts is taking a shit ton of it.
Speaker 1:Well, that's what the app is saying. Yeah, that's what I was saying. Now, the thing is that they're saying that Empower is saying that they're different type of ride, like to the to. The tax company is saying the different type of model. Then then Uber and lift, which I disagree with.
Speaker 1:They were saying I was trying to find the word in regards to like being uber X or well, so so this particular model says that uber and and lift is, is is Like taxi companies, which they say they're not uber and if says of course they do. The Uber lifts say they are, you know, computer companies like the tech companies, providing a model. Right yeah, and so they are saying the same thing, but it's basically essentially the same thing. But I don't know that we're gonna see empower coming to other bigger markets or smaller markets like ours, I don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's all about market share, right? Oh sorry, not market share marketing, like you said. Like absolutely. I mean there's tons of drivers, you don't have to worry about that. If there's riders You're gonna empower, can go anywhere they want. They can go to the small cities in the in the country?
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's drivers everywhere. Absolutely. There's drivers, but it's only gonna work if they get the riders with them. Exactly, that's what I, yeah, exactly right without the marketing.
Speaker 2:They should be spending 99% of their budget right on marketing to riders.
Speaker 1:So empower say they are booking platform on the same market as such as a Expedia.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's kind of what they call themselves. So no one wants to call themselves a technology company.
Speaker 1:I guess not, I mean.
Speaker 2:I mean. So if you could get a consistent weekend of work, would you do empower? I can see myself doing empower a force, a full-time driver, but not for the weekend, no, but if there's different tiers, well, why wouldn't you though? Well, didn't you go where you make the most money?
Speaker 1:But if I, if I could guarantee that I'm making that, have enough rides to keep me busy all the time, that was, that was my hypothetical question.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I guess, then I would yeah and you'd pay this a subscription fee, whatever that. Well, yeah, yeah what if it costs 249 a month?
Speaker 1:Well, if I made a thousand then it'd be okay. A month, no, I mean, let's say I only drive one weekend that month.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so, and you would pay the 249 if it was worth it sure. Well, I mean, yeah, I just, I'm just yeah.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:I miss because I just trying to get past. If you hate the subscription model and like would never do it like because some people, no matter what they're like, fuck that, I'm not gonna pay for there's lots of things that I have, the subscription model, I know, but it's different, but not when you're you don't have a subscription model. Be well, as a business, though I mean okay, what? What do you mean then? I guess I'm confused.
Speaker 1:Well, if I use it enough, it's worth it. It's fine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know sure.
Speaker 1:I mean, we have a subscription model for iStock photos. We use it at work, yeah right, and you can buy photos for $10 apiece.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but is that photo making you money on the spot?
Speaker 1:This is a different thing where you're like giving someone, but it's still cheaper by subscribing for it and I know I'll use them, so it's fine. You know it's. I mean again, if I was a full-time driver and I knew I was gonna be using enough and there was enough drivers, absolutely I would do it, sure.
Speaker 2:You gotta work on. You confuse drivers and riders all the time.
Speaker 1:Oh, I know, I know when you speak you say so if I'm a full-time driver and I have enough riders.
Speaker 2:Yeah, last time you said drivers and drivers. I know.
Speaker 1:But that's honestly, that's because English is my second language.
Speaker 2:Oh, is it, is it, is it? There's a translation thing there.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, totally, oh okay, because it's yeah, I mean yeah when I go back and edit.
Speaker 2:I'm like why the fuck did he does he keep saying, yeah, I know it's a?
Speaker 1:translation thing. So I think of it differently, you're saying I never even thought about that. No, yeah it's. There's lots of words that's like that. Oh, all right.
Speaker 5:But I will do better, jason, now I feel bad.
Speaker 1:Now that you threw me down. Now I feel bad.
Speaker 2:Do I really feel, feel bad, I don't give a shit, I would do Empower if you since you didn't ask me, I would definitely do it?
Speaker 1:Would you do Empower no?
Speaker 2:No no I would, but I need to. If anyone's listening that has done Empower or is currently like working through their platform, I'd love to interview you. Just I mean just because I want to know. All right, moving on, this is funny. It says closed. So it's a restaurant closed for sex, be back in 30 minutes. And I was like, oh, that's hilarious, right. But then the comment says 30 minutes. Jesus guys running a marathon over here.
Speaker 4:And that's what I immediately went to make a joke.
Speaker 2:I'm like damn, I'm usually done in three minutes, but I thought that was funny. And then someone also put a gif of this is obviously not a quickie, mart God. And then someone commented 30 minutes is a woman. She's like 30 minutes is a quickie. I'm like oh, get ready for your DMs to blow up. Good luck with that. So just so everyone knows, 30 minutes is a long time. I don't care what anyone tells you it is. All right.
Speaker 1:So this one here is I'm assuming it's either a newbie or a doodash. So he goes here and this is for the person who got the food he goes. I'm at the mailboxes right now. Nothing is here. I send you the picture of your food at the mailboxes. What you need to do is include a gate code if you want food brought to your door.
Speaker 2:I just had a brilliant idea. So from now on we'll each take a roll, Like one will be, because we get this a lot and then you got to.
Speaker 1:That's true. So you're the person who got it delivered, so let's try it.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'll start at the beginning. I'm at the mailboxes right now. Nothing is here.
Speaker 1:I send you the picture of your food at the mailboxes. What you need to do is include a gate code if you want food brought to your damn door, bro, you can't leave food in public area.
Speaker 2:It's not here.
Speaker 1:There's no way else to leave it. You did not provide you the code that would allow me to access your building. I did what support told me to do.
Speaker 2:Okay, not here, not at the mailboxes.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. I really wanted to bring it to your door but I couldn't get there. It made me very sad. To prevent making your driver sad next time, give them the code to your gate. Dude, that was fun. We just knew that from now on. That was so fun, anyways. So basically, put in the damn code.
Speaker 2:I see that all the time and people are usually like oh, just wait for a car to go through. You know what I mean. I'm like that's creepy. You know what I mean. You're like just waiting there in the wings and somebody opens and you scoot in behind him Like no. If I live in a gated community and I saw somebody do that, I would stop and say what are you doing?
Speaker 1:So don't do that. The one thing I've asked I thought about a lot often Don't you think that these gated communities should have like codes that change, so like they should have a code they can give to people like this every month or every week? Oh yeah, so it's not their code.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean not every week, but you should have like with my security system, I can give a temporary code, right, but I don't think they're at sophisticated. They're not at that point yet, because it's just like a little box.
Speaker 1:No, I know. But why? Not, I don't know. I mean, don't, don't they have different codes? All the people living there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they do. But I'm saying don't give them your personal code, give them a time.
Speaker 1:My point is so a gated community generally have hundreds of people living in there, right yeah, and there's. There would be hundreds of different codes, correct, right. So I can't the community company just say, hey, use three, two, four, one for you to the rest is month. Tell everybody, oh okay. The next month. We'll just reset that. Use something else. Yeah, I mean, it'll be a temporary solution and yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2:I mean nine times that I wouldn't say nine times out of ten. I about half the time. The codes that are in there, they don't work. No, they didn't work, or you have to hit a command or something I know.
Speaker 1:And then nobody ever knows whether you have to tag hashtag before or after.
Speaker 2:I know that's the worst. I'll try them all the only time I'll use the gate if it doesn't work. If someone comes out and it opens, I will go in, because then they don't know. I'm like you know you just feel like you're creeping. That's the worst part.
Speaker 1:You look like a creeper. That doesn't help that, doesn't help that doesn't help.
Speaker 2:A $25 Uber package delivery turns into discovery a suspected drug trafficking operation. We got a video for this. We'll watch this and then it's 348. I doubt we're going to get through 348 before I dump it, so Tonight on the 10 o'clock news caught on camera the moment a local Uber driver and her friend discovered that they were unknowingly being used as drug trafficking mules.
Speaker 4:Well, the people who knew I had their drugs knew where I was at and it started to get a little scary.
Speaker 6:The two women discovered that the suspected pure crystal meth was in there, and then they called the police to report it.
Speaker 7:Yeah, law enforcement sources say that it weighed in ounce news for Jackson Porter, eric Oveney joining us live with more on this really crazy discovery, eric.
Speaker 9:What began as an Uber package a $25 Uber package.
Speaker 2:Why did they have to do this live?
Speaker 9:from Jacksonville to St Augustine quickly turned into the discovery ofa suspected drug trafficking ring. And now the female Uber driver who discovered that that those drugs with her friend now fears for her life.
Speaker 9:And I got a $25 order on my phone, which we're hiding the identities of the two women who spoke with us as a safety precaution. The woman on the right is an Uber eats driver who just started doing Uber package deliveries. The woman on the left is her friend, who was with her late Thursday night when a request came in to pick up a board game from a home on the West Side.
Speaker 4:An older lady walks out, middle aged, and she walks up and she's got a yellow game in her hand and she says hi, are you the delivery people? And I said yes, you're my first person. This is so exciting. And she hands me a game.
Speaker 9:The game was supposedly going to another woman in St Augustine who likes board games. 15 miles into their journey, what? The driver got an order from her phone telling her that the delivery request was cancelled. The cancellation cleared the delivery address on her screen. The driver and her friend began to feel something suspicious about the board game.
Speaker 6:We actually smelled something and didn't know what it was. We couldn't describe it, but now I would describe it as a gross chemical, pungent chemical smell.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like your voice. What do we do? We have a random package in our car.
Speaker 6:We don't know what we're driving around with, so we pulled over and we opened it.
Speaker 7:I have to call the cops. Call the cops, please.
Speaker 9:This is when the women discovered an ounce of suspected pure crystal meth hidden inside a compartment of the board game. While waiting for police to arrive to take possession of the drugs, the women were in fear for their lives because the Uber app discloses the location of its drivers.
Speaker 4:One point I actually ducked down in the car because I became so paranoid that everybody pulling in was get it together.
Speaker 9:The driver says Uber could avoid employees becoming unsuspecting drug trafficking mules by verifying the people who request pickups and deliveries.
Speaker 4:I picked up this package, I didn't have to verify this lady, and when I dropped it off, according to Uber, I wasn't going to have to verify her, only confirm the delivery there was. This can happen to anybody at any time, because Uber has no safety measures with the packages. You can just send anything. You can send drugs.
Speaker 2:Okay, so yeah, no, you want two things. You just said that the woman wasn't verified and the package wasn't verified. Well, the woman is verified, she created the account.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, but is she really verified? It's the same thing as a rider account, that's not verified, but I don't verify when a passenger gets in.
Speaker 2:No, no, I don't ask that, but at least you know the name and stuff.
Speaker 1:Well, I guess it's not a big deal. Who knows what the name is?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's the same thing. So, I mean, there's still a record. Yeah, anyone can create an Uber account and I'm sure they went back to that person. I'm sure they would get a subpoena from Uber, because you know Uber's not going to give that up right away. But then the whole thing like well, they canceled, and they know my location. No, the second it canceled, everything stopped. They don't know where you are.
Speaker 1:Well, they knew where they were last. For that second, they could have moved yeah, and then called the cops.
Speaker 2:I don't know. Would you have opened it up?
Speaker 1:I wouldn't have taken it as a damn game. I mean, that was weird to me in the first place. Why isn't this wrapped in something? Why doesn't it happen?
Speaker 2:I mean, well, the whole thing is, that whole package thing is weird. What did Uber think? I mean, of course, didn't they know that this was going to happen. I bet this happens all the time, every day.
Speaker 1:Right, but that's the other thing about what they said. And I don't know Uber delivery. I don't know what it is, I don't either, but aren't you supposed to at least take a picture of the package and stuff so they know what you're looking at when you're picking up?
Speaker 2:I don't know. That's another thing I mean.
Speaker 1:I mean, that just seems very strange. Again, we don't have Uber delivery in Grand Rapids as far as I know.
Speaker 2:but it's like, this is just Well, I mean, it's kind of like curry. You know, you basically go, you see what it is, you take a picture of it, you upload everything Like it's. I'm sure this, that is the procedure with Uber. They're not just going to, they have to take a picture of it. I can almost guarantee it. But it still wouldn't prevent, like. No, you've obviously chose your like, but it's just weird, like what did Uber think was going to happen?
Speaker 1:Right. I guess I mean sure they know this was going to happen.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I saw. They know very well this is happening.
Speaker 2:And how do you avoid it? No idea.
Speaker 1:Well, but the real question is does Uber have a care?
Speaker 2:No, Uber doesn't care, I just met more as a driver. Right, right, if you see it and looks weird, just don't take it, it's like I'm good, I'm going to cancel. Yeah, but that would, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:But again they're out making money. 25 dollar package. I mean, you don't turn down a 25 dollar package?
Speaker 2:I did look up and now I'm going to get a warrant. It does meth smell, apparently. I mean, it's a distinct order how it's produced, but I can't. When meth is smoked it tends to have a lighter, more subtle and almost sweet smell.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's when it smoked.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this was in the bottom. I know, I'm trying to look.
Speaker 1:But again, I'm not going to say maybe they did so.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but anyways it's just. I mean, really the shame is they should have just fucking smoked it and gone on with their night. That's what they should have done. I mean, let's be serious.
Speaker 1:I mean, oh, it's so old. They would have made a lot more money than 25 dollars.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's true. That's a good point.
Speaker 1:No, they did the right thing. They called the cops.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think I would open, but it's weird that they were videotaping it too. When they opened it, it's like it almost feels like a setup. I don't know why, but I don't know.
Speaker 1:Maybe it was just them telling the story about this. That's just. This does happen.
Speaker 4:I don't know you mean like I'm sure it does happen.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I just seemed weird, it seemed a little too.
Speaker 1:But why would you use a? Why would you use a board game?
Speaker 2:I mean, it's something's, I mean, why not? It just didn't seem like they hit it very well.
Speaker 1:No, I would have like hit it but it's not a dead, isn't it a giveaway? So here you are you're making $25 to transfer a damn board game but who sets the price? No, but I'm assuming part of that 25 dollars was a tip, because there's no way. It's true 25 dollars to the way that yeah yeah, because I've gotten Sephora.
Speaker 2:You know that isn't that jewelry place. I've got requests for that for like 20 miles, for like eight bucks.
Speaker 1:I know right. I mean, come on, it was a driving into another state, oh yeah that's true. Yeah, 20, yeah, 25 bucks all of a sudden the feds are including now cuz now they're going across the street as drug mules. Now it's now, it's a federal thing. Yeah, oh my gosh. No, that's crazy.
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Speaker 2:the fuck are you talking about. Yeah, I didn't have that experience. I actually was fine with it. I mean, but I but it doesn't mean it doesn't happen, and I haven't read about it.
Speaker 2:I don't want to throw belt higher completely under the bus because they still are a mechanic place. So absolutely and obviously if they find something are my inspections you should go get a fix. Like absolutely not gonna pass you If it's all jacked up. No, no, check it out. The link is in the description for 19 bucks. I mean you can't go wrong and get on the road quicker instead of dicking around with belt higher.
Speaker 1:So there you go is dickin around Okay. I don't know. I say that in the ad. Maybe I don't think it digging around. Anyways, the next one was interesting to me. I was actually first was a little bit confused, yeah.
Speaker 2:I was wondering. You put this for yourself, so I'm wondering.
Speaker 1:My assumption is that the fun part is that this is three different rides and they're all six thousand nine cents, so that was the one I was assuming. That was my takeaway from these three. Yes maybe Jason can tell me the real story.
Speaker 2:No, that is the real story, the interesting part about it. It's John from North Carolina. Yep and he was getting. He got 25 of those. They were all the same six or nine, six or nine, and he also got a bunch of them that were thirty four dollars.
Speaker 1:You know, the other interesting part is, today is September 6.
Speaker 2:That is interesting. But yeah, they're all the same price, different, different Distances. It's so weird. There's some sort of glitch. I haven't heard anyone else talk about it. But yeah, john was sending me like tons of photos. And then there was another one. It was a thirty four dollar. It was like I think it was food delivery. Like Jesus Christ, I'll do three of those and call it a night. I know, right you know what I mean, but clearly there was something going on there that they need to fix, but not in our market.
Speaker 1:Six or nine.
Speaker 2:Six or nine. Yeah, that's not like they were great or anything.
Speaker 1:Well, at least it wasn't 690. Why 69?
Speaker 2:Oh, I wish it was. At least it wasn't 666. That's more like it. Moving forward. Uber Lyft drivers on YouTube. I'm not on YouTube, on Facebook. This morning I picked up a rider in the middle of the trip. He told me to turn off my Christian music because he's Jewish and forbidden to listen to that type of music. I said no and he asked me to drop him off. So I did, did so. I did at a safe place. Why should I satisfy his belief at the expense of mine? I don't think he realized it was my car and I chose the music. Besides, it was a 15 minute trip with half of it Already completed. This is America we pride ourselves in being religious, religiously tolerant. I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 1:It was. But what he's? What's he being tolerant? I Mean it's.
Speaker 2:It's a 50-50 right? Yeah, you have a customer and you have a Driver, a rider and a driver. But it's independent. So it's like, well, it's my car, right, I can do what I want. The riders like well, I don't like this religion and we're supposed to be tolerant, so I get it. I. I mean, I, I'm fine with that. Like no, I'm not gonna turn. Actually, I would turn it off. I'm not a dick, right, I would be like alright, man, that's cool. Like I turn it to something else. But I don't know why this guy decided to take a stand, but I still think it's in his right to do it.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. It's in his right to do it, yeah, but as you know, with everything else that's in your right to do it, they also come with consequences.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but what's the consequence of one star? No, no.
Speaker 1:I'm sure he didn't get a one star. He chose. He chose a safe spot to drop the customer.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I forgot that. He dropped him off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean so. I'm sure it was fine. Yeah, I mean what? There was no other option if he decided not to turn off the music.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm just gonna set you off. I don't, I don't why.
Speaker 2:I don't know why people would get such hard-on's. Maybe that's not the right word, but just like, why are you riding or dying on this? Like, just turn the fucking music off.
Speaker 1:I think the real question is he shouldn't be driving through a lift.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:I mean because you can't do that and be. I Don't want to call him intolerant, because that's not what it is.
Speaker 2:No he has his right to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he has his right to do what he was doing, but I mean, we are still providing a customer service. It's a customer service. Yeah, the person is paying for that service. Yeah, and yes, it is your right. You can do whatever you want, but you shouldn't be driving through a lift it.
Speaker 2:What's interesting to me? Always in my head I'm trying to do something to get a tip. I so like in my head I'd be like, yeah, sure I can turn it off, because in my head I want more money. That's my goal. Out there I'm kissing I mean not kissing ass, but like I'm making you comfortable. I'm trying to have a conversation. Like for me I was like, well, maybe I'll get a tip because I turned the music off. But yeah, he right, I don't think he should be driving like.
Speaker 1:It's just not for him. No, I mean, because what if other people come and say, hey, turn off this crappy Christian music, I want to listen to them in country. Yeah, I mean, then he's got, we all know if it's a country right, a country person listening, he's going to, you know, break his jaw or something he's just going to know to him.
Speaker 2:Oh man, you just threw all our country listeners right out the window. No, I don't know. Is this to me? Is this like just chill out, Just like?
Speaker 1:I know exactly. Just chill out. You are fucking idiots All right, you're up. Tom. The location of the picnic is in Grand Rapids Freaking old man.
Speaker 2:Tom PM me with technical location and pavilion.
Speaker 1:So this is an interesting I think it's a video Women speaks out. I didn't know if you had loaded the video. I did pull it, yeah. So it's a news interview. Women speaks out after Lyft driver abandoned her, and then the driver does something interesting. But let's go back to that. Why do you play it? Yeah, this one's weird too.
Speaker 2:I have many questions.
Speaker 8:Well, yes, now to an alarming story of a woman using a ride share to get home from Salt Lake City International Airport. Last night, after returning from a trip, dante Deleu used the Lyft app to book her ride home, but when the Lyft driver arrived at the airport, she says the ride took a strange turn. I'm down.
Speaker 3:I noticed that the license plate number was correct. The car was correct. I'm waving him down and he stops in front of me and then speeds away, even though the driver did not stop to pick her up.
Speaker 8:she says he still drove to her home in Harriman Deleu, tracking him through the Lyft app, saying the driver never canceled the ride. She called home telling her family to lock the doors while also trying to reach out to Lyft. She then called police. I did speak to the policemen.
Speaker 3:And I think there should be a real warning to the general public, because he notified me that there are a lot of problems with the rideshare apps and they go on a lot of calls.
Speaker 8:There are safety issues, deleu says the Lyft app shows the driver sat outside of her home for a few minutes before leaving. She was still charged for the ride as well, but Lyft telling her today they will refund her. Abc4 are reaching out to Lyft for comment, but we have yet to hear back. I don't get why she called the cops.
Speaker 1:Well, she was obviously scared, because she happened to see that he was still going the ride. Now here's the other thing, and this is the thing that I thought was interesting why didn't she just cancel the ride?
Speaker 2:That's a good point, because the moment she did, he no longer knows where to go Right, and it was a 36-minute drive, 23 miles, so it's not like. And then, during that time, she couldn't get a ride home, right Because she, that's a good point. I never thought Just cancel the damn ride.
Speaker 1:I get her being worried.
Speaker 2:I get her being worried that he would know where she lives. But if he took her he would know where she lives. Well yeah, so what's the safety issue?
Speaker 1:Well, he, obviously. I mean, the story was obviously, the driver just went. Yeah, he just wanted the money, he just wanted the money and not wanting her in the car. But why?
Speaker 2:is she talking about safety issues Like all the cops? Like blah, blah, blah. Like she was focusing at the end on safety issues Like where's the safety?
Speaker 1:It's obviously the fact that he was sitting outside her home for several minutes and knew where she lived. Blah, blah, blah. It was probably a rich area, whatever yeah.
Speaker 2:But I can't. He would have known that. Anyways, though, if he took her, that's my point Cancel the ride. No but I'm trying to discredit her bitching about the safety issue.
Speaker 1:No, I'm sure I don't think there was any safety issue. There wasn't, and particularly not if she would have canceled the damn ride. Well, yeah that agreed.
Speaker 2:Your point is valid in number one, but she's still stupid, sorry.
Speaker 1:No, it's true, it is true, but I mean so again. If this happens, what is the best thing you can do?
Speaker 2:Cancel the ride.
Speaker 1:Right, because everybody who doesn't know this already, the address disappears.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it goes back to the regular screen, right, yeah. I mean, I don't take screenshots of all your rides, to you Only the shitty ones, I know if some does, but I'm not doing that there's an app, or I think the Maximo app, which we'll talk about a little bit. You can set it up to every incoming order to take a screenshot Ooh that would be great For anything. So then you at least have record of stuff. So you have the record Is someone if Uber fucks you on a surge or something.
Speaker 1:That actually happened for me once, many, many years ago. Yeah, I've had it happen a couple of times, but I fought him on it and they gave me my money. Oh, really yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't have the time.
Speaker 1:That was back. This was back in the. This was New Year's Eve, it was on a search night and it was back where the multiplier was on. I had picked a group up at the bar and it was like an 8.9 times surge. Oh my crimey. Yeah, it was crazy and they wouldn't give it to me. It was like 80 bucks.
Speaker 2:And they, what did they give you Just a regular rate. Yeah, oh geez.
Speaker 1:They said that I had moved just as the surge. No, no.
Speaker 2:If it's New Year's Eve. The surge didn't drop off back in the day.
Speaker 1:No but they, I fought him on it and they finally gave it to me.
Speaker 2:Well, they're probably like we're screwed because we know it's been surging for six hours straight. I know.
Speaker 1:No, it did not drop off the moment I left. You fucking morons.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right, I can't believe I said that. Yeah, you're such a cursor I love this. Why can't this come to us? This is Uber Eats. I'm an idiot. Yes, it's Uber, but it's packaged. And looking for Walmart, I know 10 to 15 bags, $418.
Speaker 1:But it's three and a half hours each way.
Speaker 2:But it's no, no, no, it's not each way it's 57 miles round trip. Oh yeah, Dude, I'll do four hour, three and a half hour routes for Flex and make a hundred bucks.
Speaker 1:But you can't do that in your car. Why not? Because you wouldn't be able to drive that far in your little electric mobile.
Speaker 2:It's 57 miles. You dumb, fuck, yeah, okay. I get 300 miles on a charge you asshole Take it back. Okay, fine.
Speaker 1:But why is it three hours and 50 minutes and 57 miles?
Speaker 2:Because it takes time to get out and deliver the packages. Yeah, the three hours and 26,. That seems a little ridiculous. I would agree, but it's 57 miles, yeah okay, for $418.
Speaker 1:But still yes, yeah, okay, holy shit. But that includes an expected tip.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which is interesting too, because with Walmart, when you're doing these, they call them batch orders, which would be like this there's no tip, it's just you get what you get.
Speaker 1:At least not an hour market.
Speaker 2:Pretty sure they're not in any market. No, this is when I'm talking Walmart spark sorry.
Speaker 1:Right right, right right.
Speaker 2:Not Uber, okay so, but yeah, I was like God, I was drooling over that. I'm like can you imagine, for three and a half hours you make almost 420 bucks.
Speaker 1:I know Last time I made $400,. It took me seven hours.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it makes you throw up when you see prices like that.
Speaker 1:You're just like it's like we want those back. I know.
Speaker 2:So Middleton Tech is the app of choice if you want to customize your ride share or any experience. Ooh.
Speaker 1:And you want to use multiple apps.
Speaker 2:Did you hear that I?
Speaker 1:customized your ride share experience. Yeah, your ride share experience. I know I used it there.
Speaker 2:Gary, you can use that. You can put it on any of your ads. So on your screen, if you're looking, you have blue on the my left is Maximo, flexalert in the middle and DriveUtilityHelper. Gary well, he doesn't care, but I did cancel DriveUtilityHelper. I cannot get on the DoorDash platform. I'm pretty much done with them for right now, Like until things change, and I need to do it on a regular basis.
Speaker 2:I'm not you doing DoorDash, so, anyways, driveutilityhelper is just for DoorDash, flexalerts, ivy for Amazon, that helps you tap not doesn't pull the route for you, but to refresh the screen, and then Maximo's for Uber, lyft and Grubhub. Anything you want, Anything you want to do, you can do. Like I said earlier, it takes pictures of the incoming request. So if you want to keep that for your records, you can do that too. The link is in the description. We obviously do get a little bit of money each time you well, not each time you click. If that was the case, it'd be great. If you sign up for a plan, which is, I think Maximo is $5 a month and DriveUtilityHelper is $10. And FlexAlert is actually. Flexalert is free unless you don't want any ads, and it's $20 one time.
Speaker 1:Oh okay, I don't think we need money for that one, but we were still using it, even if we didn't get money.
Speaker 2:Oh God, I use FlexAlert all the time Like that. I would say that's my favorite we would still recommend him no matter what.
Speaker 1:So absolutely you.
Speaker 2:If you're a multi-app or you want to use Well, yeah, I mean, right now I'm a third, you other one?
Speaker 1:maximal maximum.
Speaker 2:I'm a I'm a uber whore right now because I get a dollar extra with the comfort or with the Electric and and then I have comfort too, so like I'm not using lift anymore. You know I had an email lift. They only offer the dollar extra for any if you live in California.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's so bullshit, stupid like You're, you're hurting yourself. You want to. I mean cuz I I may stick with lift if I could get the extra dollar. I know it a dollar doesn't sound like a lot, but when I'm going out on a weekend and doing 50 rides, oh that's 50 bucks, although I don't get it for eats, I will have to say they don't give it to me for eats, it's only for people, which is so weird too.
Speaker 2:It's the same thing. I'm just moving food instead of people. They don't give me the dollar. Yeah, I mean, what's the point? Well, what it is is there. Well, I would say, they're preventing someone else from using a car, but you're also preventing someone else driving to go get their food. Why, there's that?
Speaker 1:There is that. All right, you're up.
Speaker 2:So the next one is read that on the screen.
Speaker 1:I can hear so. So this is interesting. This is another delivery door to ash delivery for Dennis. It says, handed to the recipient. The dog's name is Wiggles. I pay him to bark. I lost my right leg in the war. I'm in my bed. Come on in, man, I would leave the food on and I wonder how many people actually go in. It's so dark.
Speaker 2:Name is the Wiggles the whole thing. I love that part, but then he's like I pay him to bark. I lost my right leg in the war. I'm in my bed, come on in, that's I.
Speaker 1:Have so many flags Going off right now and he's getting a chicken egg roll.
Speaker 2:He's getting something.
Speaker 1:Uh Taco.
Speaker 2:Bell, which I thought was interesting. I I know I I've been following this a little bit will pay five dollars off your door dash order from more than 20,000 Mexican restaurants. If you don't have door dash account, get one now. On Tuesday, september 12th, the Taco Bell will pay you five dollars of your minimum $15 order on door dash for more than 20,000 Mexican restaurants To celebrate the liberation of the phrase Taco Tuesday. Do you know about this lawsuit?
Speaker 1:I do, ron James, I do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay. So basically he was trying to trademark it and they said no and whatever. But the the restaurants include not only Taco Bell, but also Moe's Southwest Grill in Chipotle and many more. Taco Ball pay a total of five million dollars.
Speaker 1:Now, isn't it the same like company who owns them all? Probably, I think so.
Speaker 2:I thought Taco Bell was owned by the company that owns KFC Pepsi.
Speaker 1:They're probably franchise. Yeah, I probably local franchise models.
Speaker 2:Taco Bell had filed a petition to ask the phrase Taco Tuesday be removed from trademark. In July the owner of the trademark Abandoned it. Taco John said, as we've said before, were lovers not fighters at Taco John's, then the action means that anyone may use the phrase without fear of trademark infringement in 49 states. Gregory hotel still owns the trademark in New Jersey. You just he does their own shit.
Speaker 1:Well, he got it. They probably can't give. Not give it to him, I guess now Taco John's don't have a company.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they suck, they suck. I'm sorry, they're terrible. So have you ever had it?
Speaker 1:You heard it here first gentlemen, do not get taco, john.
Speaker 2:I've tried it twice and it's it's worth. It's like at least Taco Bell. Yeah, is it like greasy and might give you the shit? Yeah, but it's good. It's good that one got you.
Speaker 1:That is why I have not gotten Taco Bell in a long time, right exactly.
Speaker 2:I mean it's good yeah, I mean it does, if you eat a lot of it and it. But it's good though, like it hits the spot, especially if you're drunk, and it's delicious, right, you go to Taco John's no flavor. I know it dry and I'm just like this is ridiculous. They should be ashamed to call themselves a taco place and they weirdly have like their staple, like side is like some weird fucking potatoes. It's stupid.
Speaker 1:Have you ever had an adobe in and out chicken chicken taco?
Speaker 2:No, that is the best is it their local GR right? Yeah, there's one right in Granville.
Speaker 1:I've never been there the best that chicken taco is so good, the best taco.
Speaker 2:The original, though, I think is like like a real Mexican taco is poncho tacos, in fact. I don't think I've ever had that there's one in Wyoming and there's one in Byron Center. So, in fact, I'm going there tomorrow because my son, who is marrying a Guatemalan, she's from Guatemala. Well, she was born in the States. They're like authentic and I was, like I, I need to take you to poncho, not my, not the fiance, but my son, because I want him to taste like is. This is close, because he's obviously eating at their house.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, of course and so he knows what true Mexican food tastes like. That's cool, but anyways, yeah, long story short, short story long. Taco John sucks. Go to Taco Bell or order on.
Speaker 1:Pond shows apparently poncho taco.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but only if you're in Grand Rapids.
Speaker 1:Well, the same with Adobe, I think. I don't know. Yeah, adobe, I can't say anything.
Speaker 2:All right, lay off the alcohol.
Speaker 1:So this one is interesting because I think this was a known fact. At least I know from From Uber Eats. They did do this, but why don't you play it?
Speaker 2:that I don't have a video.
Speaker 1:You don't have the video, so anyway, so wait wait, wait, I lied, I do have the video go ahead, go ahead and play it the. What they're saying is that restaurants are Hightening like increasing the cost. The menu costs when you come out on the door dash then regularly, because they want to regain some of the cost of the order.
Speaker 7:Yeah, All right if you've noticed restaurants are charging more for food sold on delivery apps. You're not alone, she says.
Speaker 3:So delivery companies like door she's much prettier restaurants, I think they're menu pricing.
Speaker 7:Restaurants have raised prices to pass on additional cost to customers and it's become a top complaint. Door dash says this could lead to a drop in sales and reorder rates for restaurants. The Wall Street Journal reports door dash has threatened to limit a restaurant's visibility in its app or remove some that continue to put up higher prices. The company wants prices to be similar to what customers are charged in-house in order to boost sales and create more Opportunities for delivery workers. I will tell you that this will absolutely stop me from ordering from a place.
Speaker 2:Oh, shut up. No, at least on the app.
Speaker 7:I'll just go in, yeah, but because like the thing is is that you're already dealing with the delivery cost and you're tipping what you should, uh-huh, but you know that you're paying more for the convenience, but I don't want to get the receipt taped to my bag and show that I'm paying double for a time. It's insane. Yeah, I mean, when I anchor here on weekends, a lot of times I'll order.
Speaker 7:I have some more Botox and you think you're ordering something for 20 bucks and all of a sudden it's 40 bucks or something crazy, yeah. So I'm with you. Sometimes you look at their receipt on, you look at you know the screenshot and you're like wait a minute, it's not the fees, yeah, someplace. So you go too often is just upping the prices on the app. It's. It's an interesting process, you got to. Yeah, you figure out what's not gonna turn customers away and what's also gonna make the money. I guess, yeah, it's a fine balance.
Speaker 1:Now what I don't think a lot of people knows, and at least I know it. We each used to do this, and I think who do it as does it too they take a piece of that food cost as well. Yeah, so they charge. The restaurants use the app? Okay, they get their fee. They get the fee that you know. It says under the seat, but they also get a piece of the food cost. Yeah. Which is mean that's what they're trying to regain.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, we get that.
Speaker 1:But that's what's so stupid. I don't think normal people knows that. That's why the restaurants are wanting, are increasing the cost of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but here's the thing. Do you know that Instacart and SHIP raised the prices of? Oh, absolutely Right. They're doing the same thing that the other apps are doing, so I don't know why that's such a big.
Speaker 1:No, but this case here. What DoorDash is saying now is if the restaurants are showing different prices on the DoorDash app than themselves, they're gonna take them off the DoorDash.
Speaker 2:Well no, they're saying if they raise the prices they're gonna take them off.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, if it's a different price that they're giving to DoorDash, then they're giving themselves. That was what it was, if I can buy.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no. They're upset that the DoorDash customers are getting charged more.
Speaker 1:Right, because if the same customer can walk into the same restaurant and buy a taco for $10, but that same taco costs $12 for buying on DoorDash, that's what they don't want.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, but I think it's stupid. Oh absolutely yeah, Because everyone else does it. That's how you recoup costs.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's obvious.
Speaker 1:People knows it, but so why does DoorDash cast?
Speaker 2:Well, here's the problem is that, yeah, it can't have another drink. I know I think the problem is is DoorDash. A lot of the restaurants do put the receipt on the bag, like when I shop for.
Speaker 2:Instacart. They literally make you every single time there's a message, did you keep the receipt? And you have to check a box that you kept the receipt because they don't want the receipt going to the customer because they're gonna see that they raise the prices. I'm fine with that. I know that going in. I think companies should just be upfront about it, right? I don't think people would care. It's the not.
Speaker 1:But why does DoorDash charge? Why do they take part of the food cost?
Speaker 2:I don't know, because they're fucking greedy what Exactly? And they're charging the customer like a bunch of other fees Like this is why they're a billion dollar company. Is because of all the fees Correct. But they know we're fat fucks and we don't want to go to the store Like they. People will still order. That's the thing.
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely, and people don't care. Most people don't care no.
Speaker 2:And that's why everyone I mean I get it. There is inflation going on and it is more, but DoorDash has never been bigger. So yeah. I know, on that note, you guys.
Speaker 1:We are fat fucks. We're fat fucks, these two fat fucks are going to Patreon Patreon.
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Speaker 1:I love other fun stuff, so yeah, Again.
Speaker 2:Reminder December Damn it, that's the second month.
Speaker 1:September.
Speaker 2:September 23 from two to four.
Speaker 1:It is in seven, no 16 days.
Speaker 2:We're terrible 16 days and all I've had is water, Although I've had a headache all day. But yeah, this is the wrong measure. December 20. 16 days September 23, 2023. December 17 days. I'm tuning you out from two to four in Grand Rapids at Riverside Park, at the Island Shelter.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Tom, send me a text. Yeah, that's my phone number, I will walk you through.
Speaker 1:Everybody show up, everybody show up, everybody show up.
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Speaker 1:I mean Janet and no one.
Speaker 2:Not everyone likes Janet. I mean, I'm not saying she's bad, but maybe they don't know Janet.
Speaker 1:Well then, come and know Janet. Come to know Janet, good point, I mean, she travels around the globe just to see you, man Around the world.
Speaker 2:All right, guys. As always, don't put up with anyone's bullshit.
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