Prepare your hearts and minds for a truly touching and poignant journey through loss, grief, and faith. We're joined by the remarkable Geneva, who shares with us the painful experience of losing her father while in seminary. As she opens up about the life-altering challenges her family faced, you'll be inspired by how her faith evolved and helped them adapt in the absence of their main priesthood holder.
Our conversation takes a deeper turn as we explore the profound changes within Geneva's family following her fathers passing. Through shared trauma and loss, they found unity and love, bringing them closer than ever before. Geneva's reflections on her mother's enduring love beyond physical presence and the eternal nature of her marriage shed an uplifting light on the grieving process.
Listen in as we discuss the transformative power of loss, and how the belief in our loved ones' continued spiritual existence can offer comfort during our darkest hours. We also explore our deep-rooted connections with our ancestors and guardian angels. Come, join us on this heartfelt journey that will inspire you to view loss, grief, faith, and healing from a new perspective.
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Prepare your hearts and minds for a truly touching and poignant journey through loss, grief, and faith. We're joined by the remarkable Geneva, who shares with us the painful experience of losing her father while in seminary. As she opens up about the life-altering challenges her family faced, you'll be inspired by how her faith evolved and helped them adapt in the absence of their main priesthood holder.
Our conversation takes a deeper turn as we explore the profound changes within Geneva's family following her fathers passing. Through shared trauma and loss, they found unity and love, bringing them closer than ever before. Geneva's reflections on her mother's enduring love beyond physical presence and the eternal nature of her marriage shed an uplifting light on the grieving process.
Listen in as we discuss the transformative power of loss, and how the belief in our loved ones' continued spiritual existence can offer comfort during our darkest hours. We also explore our deep-rooted connections with our ancestors and guardian angels. Come, join us on this heartfelt journey that will inspire you to view loss, grief, faith, and healing from a new perspective.
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Hey everyone, welcome back to the Remember Podcast. Good to be here. Good to be here. My name is Dianne Butler, I am the host of the podcast and we do not have Micaela here with us today. Unfortunately. She is not feeling well, so everybody, pray for Micaela. Hashtag. Pray for Micaela. I'm just kidding. We have an amazing guest with us today, so we have Geneva with us today. I haven't had much time with her as of yet, but she's an amazing person. I can already tell. And she's from, do you say, north or South Maryland.
Speaker 2:Southern.
Speaker 1:Maryland, southern Maryland, all right. Well, geneva from Southern Maryland, take it away.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you. So, as she said, I'm Geneva. I'm from Southern Maryland. Currently right now I'm at BYU, idaho. I am a theater major and so I get to participate in all the shows, which I'm really excited because I am the youngest of three kids and so, being the baby, I like giving all the attention, so I'm excited to get some of the spotlight and some of the future shows. I graduated a year early, so I should technically be a high school senior right now, but plans took a turn and God had told me that graduating early was the best decision for me and my future.
Speaker 2:So back in 2021, so not that long ago it was about a couple of weeks before Christmas my dad had broken his leg from helping me and my mom drag some leaves to a reservoir that we have in our backyard. We didn't think it was that serious, but on the morning of December 13, my dad was actually on his way to his school. He was a history teacher and he unfortunately passed away on the way there. My brother, who's currently trying to get into the army, had to witness my dad's die, so he had a lot of PTSD from that, but for me it was a little bit harder because my dad was quite early my cheerleader and my teacher, because he was a history buff and he would help me with my history. I was actually in seminary when I got the call that he died and so that was really hard because we were talking about the Atonement of Jesus Christ and about following Christ. And that really, really punched me in the gut, since I am a member of the church and so Christ does the right things when he knows it's the best. And I kind of struggled with that because I didn't understand why Christ wanted my dad to come back home so soon as he had people relying on him and loving him. And so for a little bit me and my mom would leave church early because we couldn't handle it, because for my ward they had a whole year focused on the Atonement of Jesus Christ, so right after sacrament we would go home and just try to block out all the information, but then, getting back to it, realized that the Atonement of Jesus Christ and that topic we had to learn from it eventually. So we slowly came back to like doing second hour.
Speaker 2:But one of my Sunday school classes talked about the Atonement of Jesus Christ and I was like, yeah, I can't handle this. But luckily, with great support of family and friends who were in my Sunday school classes, they were able to help. A couple months before that I ended up in the hospital from sodium issues which, for anyone listening, sodium is the salt in our bodies. I had actually didn't realize that all the salt levels were building up from not drinking water and so I ended up in the hospital my first week of sophomore year and realizing that crap, I need to drink water but as for everyone, they don't want to. But it was really important and like that was hard. But my dad was there, luckily, like helping. He gave me a blessing because he was the main priesthood holder in my family, so he was able to give me a blessing.
Speaker 2:But when he died in December my family lost their main priesthood holder and so that was a little bit challenging as COVID was still at the highest peak, especially in Washington DC and then that whole Virginia Maryland area and so doing the sacrament at home, we were like how do we do the sacrament without our main priesthood holder? And luckily my family got approval to have my older brother, who is a film major at NYU in New York City, provide the sacrament. So we appreciate that. But I had anger still with Christ for picking my dad so soon and I was like why did you do this to a great person, someone who was a teacher, a father and everybody's cheerleader? Like why couldn't it be someone else? He had so much to learn from and to grow. And so I was a little upset about that for a while and had a grudge on it.
Speaker 2:But then, moving up here to Rexburg, my amazing teacher in the Book of Mormon teacher with my brother Rick, he kind of went deep into the settlement and they talked about how Christ had a plan for each and one of us and that started in the premotor of life.
Speaker 2:And I, like he brought up that, even if you don't think that someone should have died, christ wanted them back because they had people to teach on the other side of the veil. And so that helped me open up more, knowing that, like from the scriptures and other people, that my dad was supposed to go back early because of the helmet of Jesus Christ. Now I'm only 17, so I'm still learning a little bit. Like I don't fully still grasp it, but I'm understanding a little bit more, especially as going being at a school that's centered around Jesus Christ and all of his teachings, but it's like helping me learn more if even though it's like I'm still growing because if I was still back in Maryland like doing my normal stuff before coming out in here, I don't think I would fully grasp why certain things have happened in my life yeah, Definitely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thank you for. Thank you for coming on and for sharing your story. Geneva, I don't know if I don't know if you were aware, but my, my father, passed away Almost eight years ago, or it might be eight years ago, I don't even. I think it's like seven years, almost eight years ago. I don't know, I lose track, but I can definitely relate to and understand a lot of the feelings that that you said you've you've been having, that you're going through Because I've felt them and I love. I love what you said there at the end that, like you know you're, I'm only 17. I've got so much to learn and I hope you always keep that mentality Because and life is life, is an adventure, life is full of growth and full of things to learn. And if you can always keep that mentality, then the Lord will be able to work miracles for you. And if you know too many people, they lose that mentality. They think, oh, like I'm, because I'm this certain age, like I'm 22 years old, I think I don't know a thing. You know, sometimes I'm like you know, I know all there is to know because of, but I have to humble myself and tell myself like hey, like no, there's still so much to learn, so much to know, and I know that I'm really about the gospel and I love that you have that mentality. Keep that mentality, it will work miracles in your life, believe me.
Speaker 1:But going back to what you were saying about your father, I don't think anyone is taken early. I think everyone is taken at the right, precise moment that the Lord needs them, and that was planned from the beginning. My dad, he he didn't pass away from a medical issue or anything like that. He passed away because of a car accident, a trucking accident. He was a truck driver, oh, and I'm not trying to take away from your story, but the I don't know. It was like I remember I was 14 years old, I was sitting in my living room and my dad walked by and I was like Dad, like like go leave, but can you leave your laptop? Like I want to play video games on your laptop. And he's like no, I need it for work, I'm taking it with me. And so he left. I took it with him and I was so bummed that he didn't leave his laptop. But that was the last time I saw him and I think about that. I was so worried about, or I wanted a laptop with video games on it more than I wanted my dad and boy, has it changed? Like I would kill, I would throw away so many laptops this one I'm recording this episode on. I would throw this thing away in a heartbeat if it meant having it back, because people and relationships and you know just like you were talking about your dad.
Speaker 1:You said he was a teacher. He was, he was a you know, a wonderful father and the priesthood leader of your home. And that's what my dad was. He was such an amazing man and he was just gone and I never really said goodbye. I always, you know, I think about that kind of often. Actually, I just asked him for it to keep his laptop. I didn't, I didn't really say goodbye. I figured he would come home and I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't really know where I'm going with this, but I understand a lot of that guilt or not maybe not guilt, but like anger with having a father. It's like like gosh, god. You know, like this man was my father. He was my cheerleader, he was the most amazing person that I know, one of the best influences in my life, and you took him away from me. That is hard, that is one of the hardest things that anybody will go through in this life.
Speaker 1:But you have to give the Lord a little bit of time to work. You know it's okay to have I call it a pity party. I don't know if that sounds condescending, but I call it a pity party. Whenever something bad happens to me, I have my little pity party for a few days. You know, I throw on some sad songs and I just, you know, ball my eyes out and I just I'd have a pity party. But then, after the pity party is over, I set that aside and I start working on whatever it is that I'm working, and for right now I'm going to school and sounds like you are too, but you let the Lord do his work and you put in work yourself and the Lord heal through that.
Speaker 1:I miss my dad so much, so much. But I see him in my life as I'm doing things, and this is different for everybody, so you have to find how you see your own, how you see dad in your life, but I see my dad in my life as I'm up and I'm moving, I'm doing things. My dad was also a diesel mechanic and he worked with his hands. He loved working with his hands and building and fixing things. And on my mission, oh, my goodness, I had so many amazing experiences with my dad, even though he was nowhere nearby. He was in here, you know, he was with me, but I couldn't touch him. I couldn't feel him, but I could feel his presence. There was a time when we were doing service for someone and we needed to change out his rear axle on his suburbant. And I don't know if you know anything about cars, I love it. So you know what the rear axle is.
Speaker 1:It sounds familiar, but so it's tires are mounted on. Does that make sense? Yeah, we took the whole thing out and put in a new one, and everyone I was with nobody knew how to do it. Nobody even had a clue of what to do. But I did. I didn't even know.
Speaker 1:My dad passed away when I was 14. I was a nerd before that, I was just playing video games, so he never really had the opportunity to teach me these skills. I kind of had to teach myself a little bit through high school. But here I am on my mission and I'm like how do I do this? I don't forget, you know, but we're just going to wing it and figure it out. And we. It was amazing because I got underneath the car and I looked under there and it was like everything. I knew what I was doing and I know it was my dad. He was there with me and and he helped me do it. He showed me how to do it. And this is a subject that I can talk for hours and hours about, because you know, I've had seven or eight years to think about these experiences and all these things. But this is my episode of your episode. So I want to ask how has the impact of losing your dad, or when. When did you lose your dad? What year was that?
Speaker 2:2021.
Speaker 1:21. So almost two years ago.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Or over two years ago About two years. We'll just say two years. But how? How has the dynamic in your family changed after this experience and over the course of these two years?
Speaker 2:Well, it's about my family.
Speaker 2:They're closer together, especially since, like everyone they gather around, like having like memories of him have brought us together more.
Speaker 2:My oldest brother he's no longer part of the church, but when he comes down to visit like he goes to church and he does it for my dad, and so they are families like adapting to learn, like not being around him, even though it's been a year and a half, like we've had time to grow, but still like a lot of growing to do. Like especially specifically for me, my dad taught at BYU Idaho in 2008 as a political science teacher and all of his colleagues are still here, and so it's like I'm closer to, like the BYU I family and then our we have family friends here, so our friend group who we treat as a family. But with my biological family, I mean, the dynamics are a little complicated, those like we each have our different like traumas from losing him. Like from mom she didn't really get to say goodbye to him in the happiest way, and so she's still heartbroken about that. And then for me, it's like learning, still don't fully understand what happened. So, like the dynamics are complicated.
Speaker 2:If that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, definitely, and I think things like that will heal and come through time. Absolutely I don't know the reason why I ask that is because, like that's the biggest thing that I saw in my family when my dad passed away was it brought and you said this to me it brought your family closer together, right? It's amazing how things like that happen, how loss brings each other like loved ones together. And you know my family, we're imperfect, so like we're still imperfect, but Everyone is, everyone is. Every family has their flaws, and this is true. But I remember when I was younger, when my dad was still around, I felt like there was so much tension in the house, you know, like things were kind of falling on the verge of falling apart and for whatever reason it was. But when my dad passed away, like all of that was taken all the up and thrown out the window right.
Speaker 1:We were like, we still had moments of contention, like my little sister bugs me, but we, our hearts were connected so much more. That's how it makes sense, yeah.
Speaker 1:And and I think he was like my dad was the one that was connecting us and he has so much more ability to do that on the other side of the veil than than he does or than he did when he was here, and so there were so many, so many issues that were resolved, so much healing that took place from issues that were present even before he passed away. And, that being said, like losing a loved one, it does, you know, hurt and you use the word trauma and I think something like that not being able to say goodbye properly or like in the way that you normally would like that can, that can be a very heavy thing to carry, but those things heal, especially through the savior, through his atonement and, I think, through the presence of your, your dad, or you know. It's interesting because I was literally just talking to my mom, like 30 minutes before this episode, and we were talking about my dad. I don't know.
Speaker 1:This is one of those things that it's so funny how the Lord works, because it's like like my mom just went through it, like my mom just went and had an amazing weekend doing things that she and my dad love to do together and in fact, you know she felt my dad, she felt her husband with her throughout all of that and I said to her and you can probably share this with your mom, I guess I don't know if you feel so inspired, but I told my mom that like sure, we're, we're her kids and she should worry about us and love us just like she did when we were little. But we're not little anymore. We're adults now and you're going to turn 18 on Sunday, right, so you're going to about it as old. But she still can focus on her marriage even though her spouse isn't on the earth with us today. She can still heal her marriage. She can still. She's still married and that is eternal in nature.
Speaker 1:That's not something that goes away. As long as my mom lives righteously and keeps her covenants, which I mean, she's one of the most righteous individuals I've ever met in my life. She is an angel. I love my mom, so I don't think she's ever going to, you know, do something to lose those privileges of being sealed in the temple, but because she's sealed in the temple, that marriage will last for time and eternity. All time and eternity. I can't talk right now. I know what you said. Yeah, it is eternal in nature.
Speaker 1:How about that? And so she's still married now, so she should. She is totally fine to act married. She's totally fine to do things that she and my dad love to do, and she told me of all these wonderful experiences that she had over the weekend that brought her and my dad closer together, even though it seems like he's so far away. And really he's just right here with us.
Speaker 1:I feel him all the time. He is with me constantly, and that is part of the miracle of God's plan is, even when they're gone, even though we can't see them, oh, we can feel them, oh, they're right, right with us. He's here right now. I know it because I'm here, I'm talking about it, I'm thinking of him, I am loving my father and here I am talking again. Oh, my goodness, oh, I'm a chatty, kathy. Good, I love what you're saying. I definitely love your comment about they're still married even if he's not physically here.
Speaker 2:I love that because it's so true. For them was like because they were married into temple. They are sealed together for all eternity. So, even if he's not here, they're still going to be married, because that's the blessings of temples, is they're able to have a forever family even if they are married. They're able to have a forever family, even if they want to then die.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and he's still your dad.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And did he love you.
Speaker 2:Oh, he loved me so much.
Speaker 1:Exactly. So don't say, did he love you? But he loved you. He's still. He's still here, he's still loving you. And now, yeah, that's a huge realization that I had was like holy smokes, like this man, like he he's, he's gone. I'm not going to be able to hold his hand, for, you know, until I die I'm not going to be able to to watch him work on a truck like he used to. I'm not going to teach me how to, how to weld or how to do all these things. I had to teach myself where my brothers have taught me, and even I could go into that too. But he is, he's still here and you love me so much. He in our first episode.
Speaker 1:It's titled our story, season one. It wasn't episode one, we just kind of left it at. Our story is myself and Michaela and one other person was with us and we we talked about what the episode was going to be and like, or what the podcast is going to be and what we want to do with it. We told a little bit about who we are and I shared an experience that I had when I was 16 years old. I was driving a pickup truck and I had rolled my pickup truck because I'm a diggleberry, I'm a goofball, and it was one of the most amazing experiences I have ever had. Up to that point, I've had awesome experiences.
Speaker 1:I remember in my truck as it was rolling, I'm watching the world spin around me and I was like whoa, it's crazy. And I just felt so calm as the world was spinning and I wasn't gripping onto the steering wheel, my veins weren't popping out or whatever. I was just calm and like hold on, just like kind of relaxed hands. I was just existing, I was just there, I wasn't getting jerked around in my seat belt, but I was just completely calm and just watching and it felt like somebody was holding me as everything moved around me. And then all of a sudden the truck stopped and I was upside down. It felt like weight suddenly came back to me and I fell into my seat belt and I buckled the seat belt and I crawled out and I had just gone through this crazy experience and I came out without a scratch, bruise, nothing.
Speaker 1:And I remember thinking, holy crap, dad was with me, my heavenly father was there, but he sent my dad Like my dad was, and, heck, my dad probably pushed me and made me roll because he's a goober like that. But when you look at life in such a way that you're constantly looking for his hand in your life and maybe my dad wasn't there, but it's comforting to me to think that he was but you can see all these little things in your life like holy smokes, dad was there. Holy smokes. God is there. Holy smokes. God loves me. Holy smokes. Dad loves me. Holy smokes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I definitely think that, especially with my roommates. I mean, I've never imagined my whole life like living with like five other girls that I barely know, but like now, like even like three of them, like just moved them, it's like I love them so much, it's like I am automatically connected to them, it's like I think, like heavenly father, they definitely sent them one to build me as a shoulder person and two like show that, like the girls that I'm going to be living with and they get to know, like love me and like that's the whole point of like Christ, like sending these girls in my life so to show that I am loved, and I think that's like amazing.
Speaker 1:That's right. It really is wonderful and you know, I have my father. God is constantly with us and constantly guiding us, and he's going to use your dad to guide you. He uses angels and your dad, I'm sure, is an angel. He's right there with you, it's you know. It's why family history is so important. We get to learn and build relationships with people we've never met, the more that we learn about him.
Speaker 1:I've learned so much about my dad since he's passed away. Like obviously I would love to hear those stories from him, but but he's not here. My mom is, my grandparents are. I can hear their stories of my dad. I've learned a lot of things about my dad, both good and bad. He was a goober, but it's, even with some of the bad things, like it's changed the way that I look at him, and you know that also comes with adulting. The more experiences we have in life that we can look at our parents and we look at them differently. It's like, holy crap, they didn't have it all together, everyone. They had me, you know, because they were struggling with this and this and this and this and, but.
Speaker 1:But like, so am I, so is everyone and it's amazing that the relation, like I feel like my relationship with my dad has grown so much more with him after he's passed away. Then it was with him when he was here and that's because I think, because I have to be more intentional about it as well. He's not going to come to me. Well, he comes to me and he, like, protects me and he gives me all these cool experiences. I know he's nearby, but if I want a relationship with him, I have to go seek him out. And I don't know. I think that's one of the greatest blessings Losing my dad has brought me. If it's given me more intention with all of my relationships, does that make sense?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that makes total sense.
Speaker 1:Good, I'm not going crazy over here.
Speaker 2:No, not at all Okay.
Speaker 1:That is good it's. I don't know. It's one of the most difficult things anyone can go through to lose a loved one, and especially losing a parent when you're young. And I can only imagine what it would be like for those that aren't members of the church and for those that lose both parents. And I just want to ask you if you were to meet somebody like tonight, like in five minutes, and they have lost a loved one and they don't know anything about the gospel, what would you do? What would you tell them?
Speaker 2:Oh, I would definitely tell them.
Speaker 1:Kind of a heavy question.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would tell them that you will be able to see your family member again. God is not leaving you in the dark without seeing that person again. We're meeting them, that you will get the opportunity to meet or see that family member again, even if it's like in the next couple weeks we're 20 years from now Like you'll have that opportunity to be with your loved ones again.
Speaker 1:That's a good one, and it's true, and they don't. They don't actually have to wait Until they're dead so that you can have a relationship with them still.
Speaker 2:It can start right now Exactly.
Speaker 1:Have you had any experiences in the temple? You have to do baptisms for the dead because you lost your dad.
Speaker 2:So right after the New Year's I actually was able to go to the Philadelphia temple with my mom. I wasn't planning on doing baptisms.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I didn't have a temple recommend but they let me write into the Philadelphia temple to do baptisms because my mom had explained that, like my dad had just died a couple weeks prior and they're like you know, we completely understand. We have had people come in right before the temple closed and they had just lost a loved one and they really needed to do baptisms to feel better. So definitely late in January. But then recently the Rexburg temple is a 10 minute walk from where I live and I was actually able to do baptisms and I get to go again in like two weeks to do baptisms again. So I'm excited.
Speaker 1:That is so cool. I'm happy for it. It is so awesome to live like so close to a temple.
Speaker 2:Sure, and they're building another one just because BYUI is too big.
Speaker 1:I'm sure I'm excited for that one too.
Speaker 1:The temple is such a special place and you can grow so close to your loved one at the temple. I have had so many wonderful, wonderful experiences with my dad and with my father and Jesus Christ in the temple and I think, as long as you're surrounding yourself with them, and as well as the spirit, like you will always feel loved. Just think about how much love that is from your heavenly father, from Jesus Christ, and from your dad and the Holy Ghost. Maybe I should put the Holy Ghost before your dad, but it could be the head and then your dad. But think about how much love is there, how much love you can apply into your life through those individuals. I don't know.
Speaker 1:For me, it's like I get so wrapped up in what's going on in my own life. I get so wrapped up in my own emotions that I don't think about that all the time. But when I you know, the thought pops into my head and I stop. I'm like wait a minute, and I think about, like dad, are you here? Yes, yes, I'm right here. Okay, I'm the father. Are you here? Yeah, yeah, I'm everywhere. I built this place. Oh, okay, okay. God said yeah, yeah, jesus, yeah, okay, we're all here. I can feel them through the Holy Ghost. We're all here. I have so many people with me. Even in my darkest moments, even my loneliest moment, I have people with me. I've lost, you know, my grandfather on my mom's side, and there's several ancestors that I've never met that I know are here with me, and so that is such a boost of confidence that is easily accessible. You just have to think about it and kind of it's kind of like you have to accept their help a little bit, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But they're here, and they're here to help, they're here to love you, they're here to support you. My mom has felt that this weekend with the experiences that she's had, and she called me and she all she was. We cried a little bit together because it's such a sweet experience that she's had and I'm so overjoyed for her to have those experiences with her husband. I'm sure your mom is having plenty of experiences, or, if she's not, she has the opportunity to. She just needs to look to him, and the same goes for you and for me and for anyone else who has lost a loved one. They are here, they are with us and they're so ready to help.
Speaker 2:Amen.
Speaker 1:I know I, kind of you know, took over this episode, so my apologies.
Speaker 2:Oh well.
Speaker 1:I just have so much. I love the plan of salvation. You know, it's my testimony of plan of salvation that got me on a mission. It's my testimony of the plan of salvation that gets me through each and every day. And it's amazing how the gospel is so connected. If you have a testimony of the plan of salvation, you have a testimony of it all. If you don't have a testimony of it all, you don't have a testimony of the plan of salvation, because everything, is everything in the gospel, works in God's plan, his plan of happiness. And that's what it is Happiness, pure joy. So amazing.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm going to shut up now. Do you have anything else that you would like to add?
Speaker 2:No, I think that was it. I love hearing your story too.
Speaker 1:Oh, thank you. I like telling stories that you haven't noticed.
Speaker 2:Sometimes that's the best part of the podcast.
Speaker 1:Right, exactly, I get so much out of these episodes, like you have no idea, I love it. So thank you so much for coming on, because if you didn't come on, we wouldn't have had this discussion. Boom. And so thank you, thank you so much for joining me today, geneva.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you.
Speaker 1:That's a cool name. Where does that name come from? Geneva?
Speaker 2:So it comes from my mom's side. It's her great-great-great-grandmother's name.
Speaker 1:That's cool, boom. And you know what's crazy about that. Oh yeah, so here we go, another standard before we end this episode. So I have, my middle name is Walter and I'm named after my great-grandfather on my dad's side, and it's interesting because I've never met the guy he passed on.
Speaker 1:Excuse me, he passed on long before I was ever born, but I feel this connection with him because I share his name. There's so much power in a name Like the name of Christ. What happens when we're baptized? We're in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost. Boom, don't cry. In their name. That's powerful. What do we do when we do baptisms for the dead? We do something for and behalf of their name. Names are identity and names are lineage. Names are just so much. There's so much power in a name. Names are authority too.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I go on this tangent for a while too. You have a name of one of your ancestors and maybe you've never thought of that before like really in depth, but you are everything you do in your life. I feel like the things that we do in our lives have an impact on those individuals specifically, and what they did has an impact on us specifically. Not like we're reincarnation of them. We're reincarnation of them. No, that's not what I'm saying, but I feel like they are. They have a certain tie to up, unlike other ancestors, because of the name. I think you have another guardian angel that you don't know about. Maybe you do.
Speaker 1:Maybe everything I'm saying is old names and you already know this.
Speaker 2:I don't really know things.
Speaker 1:That's good. That's something to ask your entity teacher about. Yeah.
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