Think or Drink? - "Middle Earth Trivia"

Ever wondered how well you know the intricate mythology of J.R.R. Tolkien's Middle Earth? Prepare for an epic journey with us as Andy, Jason, Rob, and Siobhan, join Matt for a special edition of Think or Drink trivia. We kick things off with unique "One Ring" mechanics that let players swap lore questions for movie-related ones, all while enjoying Dragon's Milk Reserve and Eagle Banana Bread beer. 

Tune in as we traverse the creation of Middle Earth and dive into the complex roles of characters like Manwë and Melkor. Our guests share their personal connections to Tolkien's works, from childhood memories of reading "The Hobbit" to the deeper complexities of "The Silmarillion." Stories of cherished collectibles and special movie screenings bring a nostalgic atmosphere to the trivia challenge, making it a heartfelt segment that any Tolkien enthusiast will appreciate.

Finally, the stakes rise with challenging Middle-Earth Trivia, featuring tough questions and strategic use of lifelines. The competition heats up with discussions about legendary creatures, punctuated with friendly banter and quick-witted humor. Whether you're a casual fan or a Tolkien scholar, this episode is packed with passion and knowledge, making it a must-listen for anyone who loves Middle Earth.

Transcript

Intro and Introductions

Matt 1:01

10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

Rob 1:13

We have liftoff. Welcome to Matt and Friends. Drink the Universe. Drink the Universe.

Matt 1:25

All right, everyone, welcome back to Matt and Friends Drink the universe. All right, everyone, welcome back to Matt and Friends Drink the universe. The theme for today is Think or drink. Are you thinking or you drinking? It is think or drink trivia today, and we are going to be doing Middle Earth trivia.

Siobhan 1:53

Okay, flat Earth.

Rob 1:56

Not, no, oh okay Good, because I'm a man of science. Middle Earth was flat.

Andy 2:01

Middle Earth was flat, we might have already. We might have already Spoiler question. We're gonna win the look on frustration, on matt's face says we already spoiled it.

Matt 2:15

So, before we go any further, let's go around the room here and I'll have all of you introduce yourselves hi, everybody, this is rob hey, it's siobhan. Andy.

Jason 2:23

This is Jason.

Matt 2:25

All right, and I am Matt, your host, and, as I said, today is Middle Earth trivia. So we are not just covering the Hobbits or Lord of the Rings, we are deep diving into Tolkien mythology. So put on your nerdy helms and here we go, helms, helms.

Rob 2:39

Helms deep what.

Andy 2:41

We're going helm's Deep, I like it. We're going Helm's Deep, I like it.

Rob 2:43

We're going Helm's Deep on this bitch.

Matt 2:46

Oh Is that what you did last night.

Siobhan 2:48

Oh no, I doubt it. That's what I mean.

Rob 2:53

I plead the fifth.

Siobhan 2:54

Okay.

Matt 2:55

So to remind everybody of the rules Think or Drink is our classic trivia game, where players start with six points. The last person with points remaining wins Correct answers. Let you choose someone to lose a point and drink, while incorrect answers will cause you to lose a point and drink. For difficult questions, you have two options. First, you can make it a double to get help from someone else. If your collective answer is correct, you can choose individually to gain a point or to make somebody else drink and lose a point. If you're wrong, both of you lose a point and drink. Or you can put it on their tab by selecting someone to answer for you. If they're right, you lose a point and drink. If they're wrong, you gain a point. Make sure to balance potential risk and reward when you put it on their tab.

Matt 3:41

Okay, so I am going to introduce one more mechanic for the game today to mix things up just a little bit. This one should be relatively simple. We're going to call this the one ring, so when you wear the one ring you can see the unseen world. Right, that's the whole thing with the one ring. So in this case all of the questions are tolkien lore, not movies or making of specific. But if you pop on the one ring, you can choose to, one time during the game, swap out your question for a making of or movie related question. Actor related question.

Rob 4:11

I love that Interesting, good job. Each of us gets to do that once.

Matt 4:15

Each of you gets to do that one time.

Andy 4:17

Okay, cool, so I'm pretty sure that ring goes on the middle finger. Yeah, pretty much.

Matt 4:25

No loss of points, no change up or anything like that. It's just you swapping out the question and, if you want, at that point you can even compound it with another, uh, another lifeline or mechanic.

Rob 4:31

Okay, I like this.

Matt 4:32

I like this, I'm, I'm in says the least confident guy here, hey. So trying to go with appropriate themed drinks for this episode, we have some dragon's milk reserve s'mores flavored.

Rob 4:46

Buddy, if you're stumbling over Dragon's Milk, I don't know what you're going to do with all these s'mores.

Siobhan 4:51

It's a slippery slope. It's going to be great.

Matt 4:54

Has anybody tried the Dragon's Milk yet? It is delicious.

Rob 4:57

Yes, I'm deep in the Dragon's Milk right now.

Siobhan 4:59

Whoa.

Rob 5:00

Cheers. Ask the dragon.

Andy 5:02

Consent. Does the dragon's milk come from the dragon teats? Indeed, why not? I've got milk coming from them. Can you milk, yep?

Siobhan 5:13

Yep. Yep we were all going for it, me, frodo, I got it.

Matt 5:22

He was alone in that cave with Smough for a while. What's?

Siobhan 5:24

Smough, not Frodo. No, he was not. Bilbo was he was not in the cave.

Andy 5:29

Smaug was dead.

Rob 5:33

Oh, Andy, you missed a great joke that I had.

Andy 5:36

I was too enraged over Frodo being in the cave with Smaug. It's not.

Siobhan 5:41

Frodo.

Matt 5:41

Bilbo.

Siobhan 5:42

Right.

Matt 5:43

Oh God, and I'm hosting.

Andy 5:46

That's why you're not answering.

Siobhan 5:47

Wait, what just happened?

Rob 5:49

You'll hear it. Okay, great, I can't wait.

Matt 5:52

The dragon's milk is quite good. It does actually taste like a s'more. I was worried we were going to get way too much coffee or something like that.

Round 1

Rob 5:58

No, it's actually quite nice by itself, but I've actually mixed it with the other beer that you brought, which is the Eagle Banana Bread Beer. Yes, typically I mix that 50-50 with the Chocolate Stout, but it's doing well with the s'mores.

Matt 6:11

Well, they don't exactly make a Lumbus Bread Beer, so Banana Bread was the closest I was going to get. Thank you, dnr Beverage in Nazareth and also Poppin's Travel for the fifth microphone. Help us go that distance.

Rob 6:23

That's right, jason, on the Poppin's Travel mic tonight. Yep, yep. What are you poppin'? Am I poppin'? Yeah, what's poppin'? I don't think you want to know what's poppin's a Okay.

Siobhan 6:34

Moving on. What did we all start with?

Matt 6:38

Six.

Siobhan 6:38

We all start with six, six points, six, six points, six points, six points, to rule them all. Hey, thanks. I was doing that for all the listeners to make sure you all remember. And also I'm supposed to keep score now, so just doing that.

Rob 6:49

I'll help you with that as well, oh no, I'm not worried.

Siobhan 6:51

I just want to make sure I'm doing the right thing.

Matt 7:09

As my lovely crew discussed earlier.

Matt 7:11

I all right, we're gonna start at the beginning. Oh god, what is the name of the transcendent, supreme being who created the bounds of the world, yeah, and gave the einor will to shape it, resulting in the creation of Arda, is it?

Siobhan 7:34

Melkor Eru Iluvatar Manwe or Olorin. Ha, ha, ha ha ha. My God, this is some deep-cut shit man, I can't do this.

Rob 7:37

I think it's.

Siobhan 7:38

Melkor. You're going with Melkor. That is incorrect.

Rob 7:39

You are drinking, not thinking. Ah Okay, I think it's Malkor.

Matt 7:42

You're going with Malkor. That is incorrect. You are drinking, not thinking.

Matt 7:48

Okay, I'm all of a sudden feeling good.

Rob 7:50

Yeah right, Shut up. Well good, I'm glad you're feeling good. I'm not All right. I didn't want to blow a thing right off the bat there, but A.

Siobhan 7:57

Thing.

Matt 7:58

So we'll catch up here. Eru Iluvatar created the Valar and the Maiar, collectively called the Ainur.

Siobhan 8:05

I hate this and shaped the world and they sang the world into being. Oh, that's kind of beautiful.

Matt 8:11

Which I absolutely love. Anybody not a trivia question, but does anybody know what the music was called?

Jason 8:18

Wasn't it just a song of creation?

Siobhan 8:19

It wasn't country. I'll tell you that.

Jason 8:21

It was like Ainulande or something like that Ainulindele, there you go.

Rob 8:24

Okay, I would have guessed, rob we are effed.

Andy 8:29

We're going solo cup.

Matt 8:34

Siobhan. Who is Manwe and what was his primary role? Was he the king of the Valar, responsible for ruling over Valinor and maintaining order in Arda? A powerful wizard who aids the free people of Middle-earth? A renowned elven warrior who led the war against Morgoth? Or a cunning dwarf who oversees the ancient mines in Valinor?

Siobhan 8:56

Ooh, mines in Valinor. Are there mines in Valinor?

Andy 9:00

They call it a mine.

Siobhan 9:02

A mine, a mine, valinor's. The Undying Lands. There's mines there Seems a little odd, so I know part of these questions. Ooh, manwe does not sound like an elven name. Can you give me the options again?

Matt 9:26

Sure the King of Valinor, a powerful wizard who aids the free people of Middle-earth, a renowned elven warrior who led the war against Morgoth, or a cunning dwarf lord who oversees the ancient mines in Valinor?

Siobhan 9:39

I mean, I definitely have no idea, so I'm going to go with a wizard, you're going to go with a wizard. Yeah.

Rob 9:50

He was actually the king of the valar responsible for ruling over valinor, and he was aru iluvitars, more or less right hand gotcha okay cool.

Matt 9:53

I would not have known that. I would have guessed the wizard as well, didn't?

Rob 9:55

know that what's a man weigh about 200 pounds. You know that's all I have to say yep andy.

Matt 10:03

He was named morgoth black foe of the world for slaying the first high king of Noldar Fenway and stealing the Silmarils. What was his original name? Sauron, melian, melkor or Manwe? The correct answer would be Melkor. That is correct.

Siobhan 10:19

Certainly not Manwe, since we just figured that one out. So, you're welcome.

Andy 10:26

Yeah, who are?

Siobhan 10:26

you making drink. I was hoping for a milk or question. Okay, none of us were, but the just you.

Andy 10:31

Let's, uh, let's go with Rob.

Rob 10:33

Uh, taking me down faster.

Matt 10:36

Jay. The two trees of Valinor brought light to the land of the Valar in ancient times. What was the fate of the Valar in ancient times? What was the fate of the two trees of Valinor at the end of the First Age? They were totally destroyed by Morgoth and Ungoliant. They withered and died. Naturally. They were saved from an attack by Fenwy and continued to shine for all eternity where Morgoth damaged them. But one was uprooted and transplanted to Gondor.

Jason 11:00

I believe that would be A they were destroyed.

Matt 11:02

That is correct.

Jason 11:03

Good job.

Siobhan 11:05

So rude. So, rude Sorry. No, you should never be sorry.

Matt 11:11

Did you read the Silmarillion to prep for this? I did, he said he did I read it recently.

Siobhan 11:15

That's rude. Is that cheating? Sorry, no, it's not cheating.

Rob 11:20

So who are you going to?

Matt 11:21

take points away from oh All right, from okay, all right the glove has been thrown.

Andy 11:27

Should we go around and say what our extensive knowledge of the lord of the rings.

Rob 11:33

Sure I mean I will say this, people will know very soon at one point in my life I I read the lord of the rings trilogy, but for the most part my knowledge is primarily from like all of the media. So movies and tv shows like that's.

Siobhan 11:49

That's the extent of my knowledge are we going around um, I am similar in that, like I've dug into the book lore more recently than rob has, but most of my recent knowledge is movies and reading a lot on the internet I was a massive fan of the hobbit as a kid, um to the point.

Andy 12:13

at one point I watched the rankin and bass hobbit adaptation of the hobbit, but I couldn't remember the name of the movie, so I was trying to describe it to people because I wanted to watch it again.

Siobhan 12:27

It's a kind of messed up description.

Andy 12:28

And nobody knew what the hell I was talking about. So I thought I had made it up. And then, in what was like middle school, we had to read the Hobbit. I'm reading the book, I'm like this is it. I didn't make it up. Good job but huge fan of the Hobbit. I've read all the Lord of the Rings. I haven't read all the Cimmerillion, but I've read part of it. Definitely huge fan of the movies. In fact I think pretty sure I watched the movies before I had read the Lord of the Rings.

Siobhan 12:55

Oh, that's fun.

Andy 12:56

Yeah.

Jason 12:56

Backwards. Yeah yeah, I've read the Lord of the Rings, the Cimmerillion and the Hobbit multiple times, merlion and the Hobbit multiple times. Haven't read Lord of the Rings or Hobbit in like a decade at least, but I finished the Silmarillion today as a reader.

Matt 13:09

Okay, anyway.

Jason 13:13

Those are the movies, yeah, showing up prepared.

Round 2

Matt 13:15

I'm a huge Lord of the Rings fan myself Probably actually started. I can blame Jay for this because I was really into the movies and we went to a special screening in King of Prussia, pennsylvania, to watch hometown, yeah, to watch the extended editions of fellowship of the ring and the two towers and then the release of return of the King.

Matt 13:37

So I actually have like a commemorative thing from what a workshop down there on the table with three cells of the movie. Jay and I both got one for attending. That was the only day in my life that a large, uh like refillable popcorn and soda were totally worth it, because we were literally there for like 14 hours and um, I was asking you I don't know if you remember this, I was asking jay questions, like the entire time, and you knew like every answer and I was like okay, I need to go home and read the books and this Silmarillion thing.

Matt 14:03

And then I did and became a massive nerdy fan.

Andy 14:08

I did also play and 100% max out the Lego Lord of the Rings video game Nice. Which one? Two Towers or Return of the King?

Matt 14:16

Oh sorry.

Siobhan 14:17

Oh yeah, it's a whole thing. Play the Lord of the Rings game.

Jason 14:20

The Helm's Deep one. Two Towers one.

Matt 14:22

One of the best PS2 games ever made.

Jason 14:24

It's fantastic that and the Return of the King Highly recommend.

Siobhan 14:27

I did see all the movies at the midnight release. Nice For all of them.

Matt 14:31

All of you still have your lifeline mechanics yes. Including putting on the one ring we do.

Rob 14:37

But I am in last place. Oh yeah, Do we need a score check? Do we need a score check?

Siobhan 14:42

Right Rob has four, I have five, andy has five and Jay has six. Rude, just kidding.

Rob 14:48

There we have it All, right, you're prepared so good.

Matt 14:52

Rob, yes, in the last question I mentioned Ungoliant temporary ally of Morgoth, who actually drank the sap of the two trings of Valinor. They withered and died. What type of creature was she? A vampire, a werewolf, a giant spider or a balrog?

Rob 15:09

Oh, a giant spider that is correct.

Siobhan 15:11

That is the correct answer Well done. Oh, my God. I just almost grabbed your arm to be like ask us what we think. No, it's okay, Because if you didn't know, we would know Smeagol Okay. I feel like that's the first of many of those we're going to get now. Jay, have a drink, man.

Matt 15:30

Join this party Get on our level.

Rob 15:32

Welcome to the podcast. He's going to drag me down to your level.

Jason 15:35

I see how it is.

Siobhan 15:36

It's okay, you're not at his level yet Don't worry, we're a ways to go to get there.

Matt 15:39

Si Siobhan, what is the name of Morgoth's fortress and primary stronghold during the First Age?

Siobhan 15:47

You couldn't give me the spider question. Really, come on.

Matt 15:50

I mean, you can use a lifeline and swap this out for a movie question.

Siobhan 15:53

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, go, all right Was it Angband Barad-dur Utunmo or Thangoradrim, thangoradrim, sorry. I'm sorry. Can you read the question again?

Matt 16:05

Sure, what was the name of Morgoth's fortress during the First Age? His primary fortress during the First Age? Angband, barad-dur, utunmo or Tengoradrim.

Siobhan 16:19

I've only heard of one of these and I know it probably isn't the one. That is going to be the answer. Let's go with the third one. What's?

Matt 16:24

the third one. The third one was Ultanmo.

Siobhan 16:25

Great.

Matt 16:26

It is not that it's Barad-Dur. No, it's not. It was not that. That's the one I know, that's Sauron's.

Siobhan 16:32

Tower Ah Son.

Matt 16:34

I would have gotten that very wrong. What is it? It's Angband.

Siobhan 16:37

Okay, great.

Matt 16:38

Angband.

Siobhan 16:47

Hoor, now I'm on rob's level. Dang, I would like to think that I'm higher than rob's level.

Jason 16:51

I I like you, but I'm just like I should know more than this life's full of disappointments yeah, you're right, I need I know that now it's fine, it's all right.

Matt 16:58

Andy, what monstrous creature, guardian of the gates of angban, did baron and luthien confront in their quest for a silmaril? What?

Andy 17:13

I am pretty sure it's the werewolf that we're going with. My gut wants to say the Balrog, but I'm I'm going with the werewolf. It was the werewolf.

Matt 17:26

You are correct, I would have gotten that one too probably.

Rob 17:30

I would have Balrog bear.

Matt 17:31

He was the first werewolf, the greatest and most powerful. He was later killed by Juan.

Siobhan 17:37

Juan Juan what.

Matt 17:39

Juan of Eleanor, what After his buddy?

Rob 17:43

Jose was dinner of tacos, Juan came in.

Jason 17:46

He got drunk on macarons.

Siobhan 17:47

Stop it. No, it's not his name.

Matt 17:51

I ate all of you.

Siobhan 17:54

You didn't write it, I need context.

Matt 17:56

You can tell when I skipped the pronunciation key.

Siobhan 17:58

What is it?

Matt 17:59

Spell it H-U-A-N Juan Juan.

Siobhan 18:06

Let's go with Juan. Because, then it feels a little different. Juan first.

Andy 18:11

Yeah, there is some nerd swearing up a storm.

Siobhan 18:16

They're not listening to this. They're not listening to this.

Andy 18:19

We lost at least one listener. It's okay, let's toss that one to Jay.

Matt 18:24

If you're still here, Thank you Ooh, jay.

Siobhan 18:27

Now you're at our level, if you're still here.

Matt 18:29

thank you, ooh Jay. Now you're at our level.

Siobhan 18:30

If you're ready, oh-ho.

Matt 18:33

Jay, what was the significant act that Erendil undertook, leading to the War of Wrath in the First Age? He forged a powerful weapon to defeat Morgoth, sailed to Valinor and pleaded with the Valar for intervention against Morgoth, led an army of dwarves and elves in the siege of Morgoth's fortress, or created a secret alliance with Sauron to defeat Morgoth.

Jason 18:54

That would be B. He went to Valinor.

Matt 18:56

That is correct. I knew that one.

Jason 18:59

That was in the Rings of.

Rob 18:59

Power show.

Matt 19:00

They talked about it, it was. That was a good show by the way.

Round 3

Matt 19:03

Season two, apparently, is happening yeah, and I know eight years, yeah right, I know that that show kind of caught a lot of flack, but a lot of people didn't realize that they didn't have the rights to the lot of the silmarillion for that they literally had to ask permission for every yes single specific thing from the samarillion oh to be included but I did hear that they got much more permission for the second season and they're planning on actually kind of going back and talking about Sauron more and his history, specifically Kind of back in time, how he ended up on the raft in the middle of nowhere which was not really described. Sorry, spoiler alert if you haven't seen the show.

Andy 19:44

I didn't dislike it, but the fight scenes are awful. They're just real bad.

Matt 19:51

There's a couple that are quite questionable.

Andy 19:53

But since you got that right, you got to sign a drink for somebody.

Jason 19:57

I'm going to go with Andy and bring us all down to the same level.

Siobhan 19:59

Yes, someone's keeping track.

Jason 20:02

I got you, I can do math, it's not hard, all of us wrapped together.

Siobhan 20:05

It's not hard, it's not hard math.

Matt 20:07

What happened?

Rob 20:07

sorry, he said math. Math e equals mc hammer we talking about numbers why?

Matt 20:16

yes, why not all the drops love it we're gonna move it around a little bit. We were in the first stage moving around.

Siobhan 20:24

Okay, love, making it closer to the shit that I know we're going to the second. Oh, we are all at four. Everybody's got phone, everybody has phone and everybody still has their lifelines, so don't forget about those. I'm surprised nobody's going for it yet. All right, okay, it's early.

Matt 20:37

What significant event Rob in the second age led to the haunting presence of falling warriors in the Dead Marshes, creating a sorrowful landscape in Middle-Earth. Was it the Battle of Dagorlad, the War of Wrath, the Battle of Sudden Flame or the War of the Last Alliance? I would like to make it a double.

Siobhan 20:56

Oh.

Rob 20:57

All right.

Siobhan 20:57

What is that?

Rob 20:59

With Jason. Oh Oi, baki, make it a double. Do you know the answer to this?

Jason 21:07

I'm not sure I do. Son of a bitch.

Rob 21:12

You had a glint in your eye and I thought it meant that you knew it was more of a no. No, don't do it. I misread that.

Matt 21:21

You mustn't look at the lights.

Jason 21:22

Yeah, read this for me again.

Matt 21:23

What significant event in the Second Age led to the haunting presence of falling warriors in the Dead Marshes, creating a sorrowful landscape in Middle Earth? The Battle of Dagor Lad, the War of Wrath, the Battle of Sudden Flame or the War of Last Alliance?

Rob 21:39

I think it's the War of Last Alliance. Because didn't the dead people like, weren't they upset? Because the Alliance was broken, unbeknownst to them, and so like? That's why, aragorn, I think you're describing the army of the dead.

Jason 21:50

Yeah, you're mixing stuff up.

Siobhan 21:54

Is that?

Rob 21:54

not where they were from the dead marshes.

Jason 21:56

I said one of the last. Oh my god.

Siobhan 22:01

You were close though.

Jason 22:02

I want to go with either the Dagorlad or the last alliance, but I'm honestly not sure. Oh god, good one, alright, the dagger lad or the last alliance, but I'm honestly not sure, oh god, good one, all right.

Rob 22:10

All right, give me that. D wait. What are you going for the world?

Matt 22:15

last alliance alliance yeah, give me that d, let's try that so it was the battle of dagger lad which took place. So it took place during the war of last alliance, but we were trying to get very specific, no, no no, hang on, hang on.

Andy 22:31

Push the button. Hang on no.

Rob 22:34

Cosmic Chug. No, you cannot do that to us.

Matt 22:37

I can do that to you. There's a specific battle responsible for it.

Rob 22:40

Would everybody be okay. If nobody gets anything, no penalties, no anything for that, I lose a turn. I lose a turn and I lose a lifeline.

Siobhan 22:50

But I'm not taking any points. I agree with that.

Rob 22:53

Is that fair? But also we give a Cosmic Chug to Matt. Yeah, drink you, jackass.

Matt 22:59

The ass question Give me something to drink, then I need something to drink.

Siobhan 23:03

Give him the shitty one.

Matt 23:07

Pour that a little deeper there my podcast damn it. That was deep. That was the banana bread ale that I just Cosmic Chugged. It was quite good. Thank you, eagle, all right.

Siobhan 23:17

Great Go ahead what.

Matt 23:19

Okay, siobhan, who was the leader of the elves during the Second Age, who played a significant role in the events leading to the war of last alliance? Was it gilgalad, elrond, galadriel or therendwill?

Siobhan 23:32

oh, um, second age. Did elrond leave the elves in the second age? I'm gonna go with elrond yeah, is it the first one.

Matt 23:42

I think it's d. It is actually gilgalad, wasn't the high king? No, it's the first one. Yeah, I was close, I know. Yeah, I was close, I know it's on Thranduil because that's somebody else.

Matt 23:52

I'm.

Siobhan 23:52

Galadriel. Yeah, no, thranduil, that's true.

Rob 23:55

Galadriel, can I ask a question here? Yeah, what age do the Fellowship take place in the third?

Matt 24:04

It's the third one. That's why I had to think earlier.

Rob 24:07

See, I needed to know that, thank you, thank you Moving on.

Siobhan 24:09

Yeah, so we're not there yet. Is what we're saying?

Rob 24:11

Yes, you're not there yet, great.

Siobhan 24:13

Okay, yep, sorry. Well, here I am.

Matt 24:17

Andy. Yes. What was the fate of Numenor at the end of the second age? Destroyed by a giant wave, destroyed by an earthquake or destroyed by an asteroid? I'm going with the big wave.

Andy 24:32

That is correct. That is correct. I was going to say did they have asteroids? I remember being on the island.

Jason 24:36

I'm like I think it was a little bit of like the first three, like there was an earthquake too. I don't remember.

Rob 24:40

Yes, the earthquake made the wave happen, but the wave is what overtook it.

Siobhan 24:46

Yes, the wave happened, but the wave is what overtook it. Yes, ooh, good job, all right, who's drinking Science, science.

Andy 24:54

I'm thinking Siobhan's drinking.

Siobhan 24:56

Oh my God, Now I'm down to two. Oh no, that's so mean Whatever.

Rob 25:02

Gesturing for the bottle opener.

Matt 25:09

Jay, it's going to be your turn as soon as our host can open a beer and read things. Good lord. The bottle opener was on the other side of the room.

Siobhan 25:15

Oh my god, you didn't go get it. It's because it's a Steeler's bottle opener.

Round 4

Andy 25:20

So it was way over there where their playoff hopes are. Yeah.

Matt 25:26

Dude, I feel that Damn.

Rob 25:30

I feel that in my soul burn of all burns burn like the fires of motor j.

Matt 25:40

Keeping with the same thing. What did the new minorians do that directly defied a ban set by the valar, leading to their downfall? Built a, a fleet to sail east to conquer Middle-earth. Built a fleet to sail west to challenge the Valar in pursuit of immortality. Formed alliances with orcs and built ships for them, or assisted Sauron in the forging of the rings.

Jason 25:59

It'd be B. They went to Valinor.

Matt 26:01

That is correct, they were specifically told you will not get immortality. Do not sail this way. Hence big wave Everybody dies.

Andy 26:10

Mostly.

Siobhan 26:11

Who's drinking?

Andy 26:12

Your ships are cute. Let's go Rob Giant wave would do something terrible to them.

Rob 26:16

All right, All right, All right. I'm still in this Aria. Can you recap the scores please? I can.

Siobhan 26:22

Rob is at three, I am at two, womp Andy's at four, jay's at four. Everybody has all of their options for lifelines, except for Rob not having me get a double anymore.

Rob 26:34

And Matt is still an asshat, correct we established that Choice E.

Matt 26:39

It's an asshelm Asshelm.

Siobhan 26:42

That's so true, asshelm. That's great, I love that.

Matt 26:47

How does that even work?

Siobhan 26:48

What? It's just a helmet.

Rob 26:49

No one knows what it means.

Siobhan 26:51

It's a helmet that looks like an ass it's the same as an ass hat, but it's a lot more firm Right.

Rob 26:56

A firm ass Made of plate steel. What is happening?

Siobhan 27:04

Gin and tonic is happening Sometimes.

Andy 27:05

I'm curious why you keep doing this. You just get continually abused, week after week. We love you, though.

Siobhan 27:13

I'm just saying the truth.

Matt 27:14

These are my best friends.

Siobhan 27:17

I am saying true facts out here.

Andy 27:19

Okay, You're going to have to change the title to Matt Gets Made Fun of by the Universe.

Siobhan 27:25

Well, no, we're recording now, but I was going to say before we recorded there were a lot of things that were thrown at me also.

Matt 27:31

Rob. Yes, which two characters have their final resting place next to Aragorn, legolas and Gimli, vormir and Faramir, merry and Pippin or Elrond and Arwen?

Rob 27:46

Jesus Christ. That's incorrect, no, okay.

Siobhan 27:51

Well, he was there, he rose out. Hold on, hold on, he's not there anymore.

Rob 27:54

I'm going to go with Legolas and Gimli.

Matt 27:57

That is unfortunately incorrect.

Andy 27:59

Don't tell me it's Elrond, hold on, hold on. No, it's not. Read the answers again.

Matt 28:03

Is it Legolas and Gimli, boromir and Faramir, merry and Pippin or Elrond and Arwen?

Andy 28:09

Oh, Merry and Pippin.

Matt 28:11

Merry and Pippin is the correct answer. Well, I'm very wrong.

Siobhan 28:15

We all were going to figure it out when he told us the right answer. I am.

Rob 28:20

I lose the point.

Siobhan 28:22

So at the age of 102,.

Matt 28:24

They returned to Rohan and Gondor. They passed in Gondor and were laid to rest among the kings and later moved next to Aragorn.

Siobhan 28:33

Hence the final resting place. All right. Well, at least we're getting into people that I know it was after they got bored and murdered the shit out of orcs Word.

Andy 28:40

Oh, those two went on a murder rampage.

Siobhan 28:42

Hell yeah, go for it Sometimes you gotta, y'all earned it, you gotta do what you gotta do.

Matt 28:47

So, keeping with the morbid death questions Great. After the death of his wife, with special permission, this character was allowed passage to the Undying Lands of Valinor. Was it Faramir, sam Pippin or Aragorn?

Siobhan 29:01

Oh, um, I guess I'll go with Sam.

Matt 29:05

It was Sam, correct. Great, my God, I got one right. I would have guessed that.

Rob 29:08

Yeah, okay, great yeah, good for me, good guess.

Siobhan 29:10

All right, everybody Suck it. I don't know. I'm going to make Jay drink. Oh yeah, you're fine, you'll be all right. You studied a lot more than the rest of us Study's a strong word. It's okay, you read the Cimmerillion before you got here, so you know. Yes, yay.

Matt 29:31

Andy Mm-hmm. From where does the battering ram used during the siege of Minas Tirith, named Grond, derive its name? The black axe wielded by Gothmog? A mace wielded by Morgoth, an ancient wizard's staff, or Morgoth's greatest werewolf? You've got lifelines galore.

Andy 29:51

I'm putting on the ring. Oh Whoa, I'm so happy I'm tossing it.

Siobhan 29:56

I'm so happy. Oh, Matt's going to cry.

Rob 29:57

I'm tossing it hey real quick. I'll make a guess at it. Can we still know the answer to that question?

Matt 30:09

I think it's the mace and son of a bitch, jay actually inspired that question because when we went to see the movie, you knew exactly where it came from.

Siobhan 30:13

Did I, yes, you did. He did in another life well way back when I knew, but he didn't put on him.

Andy 30:18

I forgot more than you'll ever know.

Matt 30:20

That was only 20 years ago so on the ring.

Siobhan 30:23

what's the question now?

Matt 30:24

All right. Prior to Sir Ian McKellen prior to. Sir Ian McKellen, who was offered the role of Gandalf but turned it down, saying he just didn't get Tolkien's world. Nicolas Cage Was it?

Andy 30:40

I just want you to sit on it.

Jason 30:41

I want to see that version.

Rob 30:43

Desperately.

Andy 30:44

I hope it's Chris Walken. You shall not pass. You shall not pass, you shall not pass you Balrog. I wield the ancient flame.

Rob 30:54

Fly you fools. The ring was in my anus Fly you fools In my ass.

Andy 31:01

Is it secret? Is it safe?

Matt 31:04

I would love to watch that.

Rob 31:07

I would be ready.

Matt 31:09

Okay, Anybody out there listening who is good with AI. You can make this happen for us.

Siobhan 31:14

Okay, anyway, all right, anyhow, who is it?

Matt 31:19

So, prior to Sir Ian McKellie, who was offered the job, sean Connery, pierce, brosnan, alec Baldwin or Anthony Hopkins as much as Brosnan Alec Baldwin or Anthony Hopkins, as much as I want it to be Eric Baldwin, I would assume not him.

Andy 31:37

I don't know who offers Pierce any roles. Well then, I'm going to also make it a double, and we're going to throw it to Siobhan.

Siobhan 31:45

I think it's Sean Connery.

Andy 31:46

I was thinking Sean Connery as well.

Siobhan 31:49

I would like it to be.

Andy 31:50

Sean Connery. We're agreeing on Sean Connery, we're going with Sean Connery. It was.

Matt 31:55

Sean Connery, all right.

Rob 31:56

High five.

Siobhan 31:57

High five.

Matt 31:58

Full of a joke. I loved learning about this when I made the question. So he claimed he read the books and the script and just didn't get it. He turned down. Wait for this 30 million and 15% of the box office, which amounts to around $450 million.

Siobhan 32:13

Okay, that's ridiculous and the dude is dead. He's not dead.

Andy 32:19

He still made enough money that he didn't give a shit.

Rob 32:22

He didn't even need it, and why?

Andy 32:25

Because he's one of the correct answers for the best Bond.

Siobhan 32:28

Right, I really enjoyed.

Andy 32:29

Daniel Craig as well.

Siobhan 32:31

That's fine.

Andy 32:32

I'm against you. I hated Daniel Craig.

Siobhan 32:34

Whoa, that's a All right.

Andy 32:37

To me, Daniel Craig was not what Bond was written to be.

Siobhan 32:41

He wasn't the in Fleming kind of version of the Bond.

Andy 32:44

That's fair.

Matt 32:45

That's fair.

Siobhan 32:45

I like that we can literally go off on this for a long time.

Rob 32:49

I don't want to do that. Are you guys recouping points?

Andy 32:52

To be fair, we need Chris here for that conversation.

Matt 32:54

A hundred percent. Do we need to do Bond trivia? Absolutely, I would love that Okay.

Siobhan 33:00

Please let's do it, chris is not allowed to play.

Andy 33:02

Chris hosts that one.

Round 5

Siobhan 33:04

I'm definitely going to recoup a point because I need it. Points, all right Points abound.

Rob 33:09

Andy, you son of a bitch.

Siobhan 33:10

Boo.

Rob 33:11

Okay.

Matt 33:13

So that makes it Jason's question.

Siobhan 33:15

Yes.

Matt 33:16

In the Return of the King, the mouth of Sauron delivers a message to Aragorn and company at the Black Gate of Mordor. What is the imposing gate's name? Is it Moran Morgoth Gate, the Teeth of Mordor, or Morannon, Like Mike Indeed?

Andy 33:37

I was kind of hoping for that. Certain people are going to get that joke and they're going to be laughing their butts off.

Jason 33:43

I believe it's D Moranon is how I always said it Moranon.

Matt 33:47

Yeah, isn't that right? It might be because my band director's name in high school sounded.

Siobhan 33:53

You could extrapolate on it, Moran and Moran. What?

Matt 33:57

We're going to go with D. D is the correct answer, all right.

Jason 34:01

Well done, I'm going to go ahead and bring Andy back down here, oh good, call we All right, all right, where are we standing?

Siobhan 34:08

Well, Rob has two.

Rob 34:10

Deuce.

Siobhan 34:11

I have three, andy has four, jay has three. Look out.

Rob 34:16

All right If I. Okay, Before he even answers this question. If the answer is Nazgul, I'm getting a point back.

Siobhan 34:25

Okay, I'm going to Calm down.

Matt 34:27

The answer to this question is not Nazgul.

Rob 34:29

Son of a bitch.

Matt 34:30

Okay.

Matt 34:30

As a matter of fact, the answer to none of these questions is Nazgul, bullshit, crap.

Siobhan 34:37

If one of those ring rates.

Rob 34:38

I'll give you a half a point, okay.

Matt 34:40

All right, what's my question? All right, in the movies by Peter Jackson, aragorn receives Andoril reforged from the shards of Narsil before riding to confront the dead man of Dunharrow. When does he receive the sword? In the books, aragorn reclaims Andoril from the Borodowns after confronting, after confrontation with the Nazgul. He receives Andoril during the Council of Elrond. He receives Andoril from Lady Galadriel in Lothorian when the Fellowship passes through. Or he receives Andoril by Denethor in Minas Tirith.

Rob 35:13

Duh, I'm punting this one. You're putting it on somebody else's tab. I'm putting it on Andy's tab Andy.

Jason 35:19

See them.

Andy 35:21

Put it on Andy's tab. Andy, see them. Put it on their tab. See, the issue here is. The question's not correct, oh God.

Siobhan 35:29

Uh-oh.

Andy 35:30

Because he had it with him the whole time, the whole time. The question is, when was it reforged? Okay, he was carrying the shards the whole time because he showed it to people to prove his right.

Matt 35:48

Okay, if we're going to go, technicalities at some point. He handed it over to the elves. They forced him to hand it back.

Siobhan 35:52

So who did it? Who he got it from?

Andy 35:57

I have to go with at the council. I'm not real confident on that. Okay, but that would be my answer, that is correct.

Siobhan 36:05

Oh Wait, I was going to say him oh right, because he has to answer because of tap.

Matt 36:09

Crap. Got it All right Hanging on by a thread of me too, Yep.

Matt 36:14

All right, who were the three bearers of the elven rings of power created by Celebrimbor and Sauron? Legolas, gandalf and Aragorn? Galadriel, elrond and Gandalf, celebrimbor, galadriel and Elrond, or Saruman, elrond and Galadriel.

Siobhan 36:34

Was Saruman an elf. These were the three elven rings of power. Okay.

Matt 36:41

I think it's the last one Saruman Elrond and.

Rob 36:48

Galadriel. Yes, it is incorrect. It's C, caleb Brimbor. It is B, it's, b, it's.

Andy 36:52

Galadriel.

Matt 36:53

Elrond and Gandalf.

Andy 36:56

Okay, ooh, this is delightful. The Dragon's Milk is absolutely delightful. This is like right up my alley with beers, andy.

Matt 37:08

Two of the characters in the books but not mentioned in the movies by Peter Jackson were Tom Bombadil and his wife Goldberry.

Siobhan 37:16

I knew about that.

Andy 37:17

Damn oh, tom Bombadil, dingleberry Tom Bombadil.

Rob 37:21

Was Dingleberry one of the options.

Andy 37:24

What were the options? Finish your beer.

Matt 37:28

Oh, I thought that maybe it was for Ace. He looks so disappointed.

Andy 37:33

What were the?

Matt 37:34

options Glenn or Goldenberry, Goldrian or Gwen.

Rob 37:40

So Dingleberry not on there, correct? Okay, well, a man can dream.

Andy 37:45

I'm going to make Jay drink Jay song.

Matt 37:51

So Jay in the lore, who composed the poem All that Is Gold Does Not Glitter, was it Frodo?

Jason 38:00

Is that like an SE Hinton?

Siobhan 38:04

We love that cut.

Matt 38:05

Bobby.

Siobhan 38:06

Frost.

Matt 38:07

Was it Frodo, walden, bilbo, gandalf or Aragorn who composed it?

Siobhan 38:14

EE Cummings.

Jason 38:16

I'm just going to use my ring on that one.

Siobhan 38:19

Oh, good call. No, it's worth it. It's worth it. Love that.

Andy 38:23

Bilbo right, it was actually Bilbo, yes, oh good for him who helped him finish it Get out of here, sam Wise, no Frodo. No, the Dunedin Gandalf. Aragorn, oh, aragorn, yes.

Siobhan 38:35

Strider, so we're going to keep that same theme.

Rob 38:39

Oh, I see what you did there.

Matt 38:41

You guys love that Sean Connery question. You will adore this one. Oh boy, many actors were considered for roles in the Lord of the Rings movies. Which of the following is a potential actor-character pairing? That is not real? Wasn't actually considered? Nicolas Cage as Aragorn, liam Neeson as Boromir, david Bowie as Elrond, uma Thurman is Arwen or E? All of these were considered, oh.

Jason 39:07

I'm pretty sure Bowie was considered For real. I think so. I think that's real. Wow, can you read them again?

Matt 39:16

Yeah, nicholas Cage is Aragorn, liam Neeson is Boromir, david Bowie is Elrond, uma Thurman is Arwen, or all of these were considered.

Andy 39:28

So you're looking for the one that was not real?

Matt 39:30

That is not. You're looking for the one that was not real.

Rob 39:33

Or Matt's an asshole, and the answer is E, all of them.

Matt 39:37

Yep.

Andy 39:38

Oh, this is tough. I'm a fan of an all the above.

Siobhan 39:41

Gross.

Jason 39:43

I find it hard to think Nicholas Cage would be considered for this.

Matt 39:45

You can still I believe Jay can still make it a double also if you would like. Is that correct?

Jason 39:49

I could. Yeah, you sure can.

Matt 39:50

I can. Rob could use some points.

Matt 39:53

Whoa.

Siobhan 39:59

Rob's mildly awake to help you.

Rob 40:03

No, rob's mildly awake to help you. I'm no, I'm very awake, I just I don't know, I don't think anyone knows this.

Siobhan 40:05

This is all just me guess it would definitely be a guess for all of us. What was the second one again?

Matt 40:10

second one was Liam Neeson is Boromir, he's got a special set of skills man.

Andy 40:16

I mean to be fair. Liam Neeson dies in movies just as much as Sean B oh, it's true, good point.

Siobhan 40:26

Freaking Sean Bean man no.

Jason 40:28

I'm going to go E all of the above. They were all considered.

Matt 40:30

That is correct.

Round 6

Jason 40:31

Yay, I did know about Nick Cage. I didn't know that was real.

Siobhan 40:36

That was part of my joke earlier. I knew that he wasn't dead. That's amazing. Is that nuts? Am I crazy? That wasn't that long ago. So wait, this gets better.

Matt 40:45

This gets much better.

Siobhan 40:46

Oh, I wanted to.

Matt 40:46

So all those were considered, along with Jake Gyllenhaal as Frodo, daniel Day-Lewis as Aragorn, patrick Stewart as Gandalf yes, that would be, great and my absolute least favorite, James Corden as Samwise.

Siobhan 40:59

Gamgee.

Matt 41:01

You know what?

Andy 41:02

You know what no.

Siobhan 41:03

You know what?

Andy 41:05

A young James Corden probably. Yeah, I don't think he would have been as good.

Siobhan 41:10

No, but Sean Astin was so great, so great.

Andy 41:13

I know I don't think he would have been as good.

Rob 41:14

Well, that casting department did all the right things, jay, do the right thing here.

Jason 41:18

I got it. I'm going to give it to Andy.

Rob 41:21

Yes, that's the right thing.

Siobhan 41:23

That's the right thing he did. The man I thought you were asking me to knock you out of the game. No, no, none of us ever asked for that in this.

Rob 41:31

No, all right, all right. So at the end of this round, where are we at?

Siobhan 41:35

Let's do a recap. Everybody, Rob has one point.

Rob 41:38

Hang it on.

Siobhan 41:38

Still has the ring lifeline.

Rob 41:40

I do.

Siobhan 41:41

I have all the lifelines and I have two points. Andy still has the ability to put it on someone else's tab and has three points, and Jay has make it a double and put it on someone else's tab and has two points.

Rob 41:57

Okay.

Matt 41:57

I'm ready.

Rob 41:58

Are you sure? No, Well you got the ring, I might have to bring it. It depends on what?

Matt 42:08

my initial question is what was the fate of Morgoth at the conclusion of the first age? Was he imprisoned in a timeless void, slain by Erendil, banished to middle earth?

Rob 42:22

redeemed and forgiven by the.

Siobhan 42:23

Velar, I'm going to ring. I thought this was chronological, but I guess not.

Matt 42:26

No, I decided we were going to hop around.

Siobhan 42:28

You decided now that you remembered, rob had a lifeline.

Rob 42:33

My guess is that he was redeemed. No, okay, great, well, good, I'm glad I used my ring.

Matt 42:40

Correct, it's all right. So if you don't know this, after his defeat by the host of Valar, he was crippled, cast upon his face, bound with a chain, and his iron crown was beaten into a collar around his neck. He was taken from Middle-earth and thrust to the Door of Night into the timeless void outside of space and time, and it said he would return at the end of the world and it said he would return at the end of the world.

Siobhan 43:02

Well, there you go. That's terrible. So it was like General Zod and Superman 2.

Matt 43:03

No, if you read the first Age of Silmarillion, he deserved all that much more?

Siobhan 43:07

Yeah, he was sucky. Okay, so what is my real question? What is the ring question?

Matt 43:11

Who won an Oscar for Best Original Song for Lord of the Rings Return of the King? Was it Enya Annie Lennox, Annie Lennox, Sarah. Mclaughlin or Pat Benatar, annie Lennox. It was for Into the West, good job.

Rob 43:26

Well done, andy gets a drink.

Andy 43:30

Now, anya had that like Eerie song All her shit is eerie.

Siobhan 43:35

It was, may it Be.

Matt 43:38

Fellowship of the Ring Early. Early Rings Siobhan, the seven sons of Fianor May it be.

Rob 43:40

Yeah, may it be. Was the one Fellowship of the Ring. You think of a different one?

Matt 43:42

Early rings Siobhan the seven sons of Hianor were driven by an oath sworn to their father to reclaim the Silmarils from Morgoth. What was the result of their pursuit of the Silmarils? They all perished. They returned the Silmarils to Valinor. They hid the Silmarils in Middle-earth. Unable to return them to Valinor, they turned against each other and just gave up.

Siobhan 44:06

I'm really mad we're still not in the Third Age, because that's where I know things. Did they all die? I hope they all died.

Matt 44:16

That is correct.

Siobhan 44:17

Hooray, oh my god good.

Matt 44:19

They all died in various horrific ways.

Jason 44:22

Great. They were passed. They all died in various horrific ways.

Matt 44:25

They were awful, awful people. They were like we're going to get these back at all costs, but we're going to die in terrible ways trying to do it.

Siobhan 44:30

I will give it to Jay the first two.

Andy 44:31

They tried to connect them and just exploded.

Jason 44:35

I don't think so.

Matt 44:36

There was a lot of stuff.

Jason 44:38

Morgoth had been his crown for a long time.

Siobhan 44:40

Yeah, I'm going to give it to Jay because he has more lifelines.

Matt 44:45

All right, there we go Than Andy does, all right.

Siobhan 44:47

We're getting down to the wire here.

Rob 44:49

We are, we're down to it. Yo, if you win this, I'll be so impressed.

Siobhan 44:53

I will also be impressed, because I don't know shit with all this.

Matt 44:57

Andy, Andy. Yeah. Which great dragon bred by Morgoth was the largest and most formidable of all dragons in Middle-earth during the First Age? Was it Ancalagon, Smaug Glaurung or Thorondor, I guess?

Andy 45:16

dragon. I literally watched a video on all the dragons of Middle-ear earth like two weeks ago for fun, what the hell is going on for this?

Rob 45:28

shout out, rob, are we okay? Shout out to the shout out to the youtube channel.

Matt 45:33

Nerd of the ring I have watched that one. It is phenomenal.

Andy 45:37

Now, do I remember any names? No, I do not. I'm going to put this one on.

Rob 45:52

I'm going to put it on Rob's tab Now. Let us remind the listeners at home that if I get this wrong, he's out. No.

Siobhan 46:00

Oh no.

Rob 46:01

I don't lose a point.

Siobhan 46:02

Correct.

Rob 46:03

Because he just maintains If I get it right, he loses a point.

Matt 46:09

So I can't go out on this.

Rob 46:11

I can't go out on this, so give me my choices.

Matt 46:15

Which great dragon bred by Morgoth was the largest and most formidable.

Rob 46:19

Yeah, just give me the names, I know the question Okay, do ya?

Matt 46:23

Yeah, do Ancalagon Smaug Glaurung or Tharondor?

Rob 46:28

It's Tharobdor, tharobdor.

Matt 46:33

Burning in the countryside. No, it is definitely not. It is Ancalagon the Black. He was slain at the end of the war of wrath by rendel and the eagles led by thurandor, although his actual size is never specified oh, thurandor is an eagle.

Rob 46:52

Yes, correct, who?

Siobhan 46:53

would oh yeah, when he fell on the eagles are the coolest, thangoradrim.

Matt 46:58

he destroyed three volcanic mountain peaks, crushing, crushing them to rubble. He was a big boy, not Svelte.

Siobhan 47:04

Well, well done. Wait, Andy loses a point.

Rob 47:07

No, he does not. I got it wrong.

Siobhan 47:08

You got it wrong, but nobody so nobody nothing.

Rob 47:11

No, no, no, he punted it well.

Siobhan 47:13

Right.

Rob 47:14

Yes, great Fair punt.

Siobhan 47:17

All right everybody. We're still in it though.

Matt 47:19

It's good, jay, are you ready? Yes, all right, maiar, are lesser Einor than the Valar, but still very powerful, which Maiar served as the chief lieutenant of Morgoth during the First Age.

Jason 47:39

Was it Sauron, gothmog, ungoliant or Grand?

Matt 47:43

Sauron, that would actually be Gothmog.

Siobhan 47:45

Lord of the Balrogs, you're out.

Matt 47:49

You're going to dispute this one on the chief lieutenant.

Siobhan 47:51

I would if I were him, because he gets kicked out.

Rob 47:55

Jay is about to lose.

Siobhan 47:57

Correct.

Matt 47:59

It was which of the Maiar Served as the chief lieutenant of Morgoth during the First Age Sauron, gothmog, angoliant or Grond.

Round 7

Siobhan 48:08

Angoliant's a spider.

Matt 48:09

Correct, so that's not the right answer, grond had a mace.

Rob 48:13

We learned that earlier. Grond was a mace.

Matt 48:15

We learned that earlier.

Siobhan 48:17

Grond was a mace. It is not the space between your balls and your asshole. It was the mace.

Andy 48:22

Get out of here. It is if you swing it right.

Matt 48:26

So when I looked at the questions I got, gothmog was the chief lieutenant, sauron was essentially lesser general.

Jason 48:34

I just googled Morgoth Maiar, chief lieutenant. The person that comes up is Sauron Bad check.

Siobhan 48:38

Bam Wait, we need to drop, we the person that comes up is Sauron Bad check Bam Wait, we need to drop, we need to drop, we need to drop.

Andy 48:50

I'll give this to myself, wow, he is turning that bottle up over there. So.

Siobhan 48:56

I'm wondering though I'm wondering do we just do what we did when I had the weird thing where nothing? I think that's fair. I think that is also fair hiya all right where are we sitting oh, oh shit guys. All right, rob has one uno, no lifelines none I have all the lifelines with two points. Andy has no lifelines. Two points. Jay has make it a double and put it on someone's tab and has one point. Okay, here we go. We're all breathing for our lives here.

Matt 49:29

Rob, yes, which king of Gondor was responsible for planting the white tree Nimloth in Minas Tirith during the Second Age? Isildur Ereanor Denethor, or Tar-Palantir Isildur, that's correct.

Rob 49:47

Nice, well done. I think I knew that one because he's the dad of Aragorn Right, eventually.

Siobhan 49:56

Okay, you know you were there, you were on the thing.

Matt 50:00

Great, great, great, great granddad Through a few levels of that family tree. It's probably only like great Maybe great, great, great, not great. Are we all tied up at?

Siobhan 50:08

one, we are not.

Andy 50:10

I have two. Oh, you have two.

Siobhan 50:11

Oh, you have two. I just said not to give it to me, suck it. You listened in your subconscious mind.

Matt 50:21

Well done, Rob Very manipulative.

Siobhan 50:22

All right, great Me.

Matt 50:24

Yes you. Which powerful elven realm, siobhan, was founded by Gil-Galad in Linden during the Second Age? Was it Eragion, lothlorien, rivendell or Mirkwood?

Siobhan 50:36

Ooh, I'm going to do the ring.

Matt 50:39

You're going to do the ring, I'm going to put my ring on. All right, I'm going to do the ring. I'm going to put my ring on. I might have guessed Lothlorien. It was actually.

Rob 50:45

Rivendell. I would have guessed Rivendell it was because Lyndon was destroyed. Jay questions with his face.

Siobhan 50:57

I love the fact check. I have a library degree. I love a fact check. Go ahead, have a library degree. I love a fact check. Go ahead.

Matt 51:04

Which company was responsible for the special effects and prompts in the Lord of the Rings trilogy?

Siobhan 51:08

It's Weta yeah it's. Weta. We all know that's Weta. Okay, cool, it's Weta.

Andy 51:14

I would have needed to hear the options, but no, it's Weta, he just talked about Weta giving him the cells from the thing and like it's.

Siobhan 51:20

Weta.

Matt 51:21

Come on.

Siobhan 51:22

We all know it's.

Matt 51:22

Australian New Zealand situation.

Siobhan 51:25

It is a thing you did. Oh shit, Am I supposed to take somebody out now?

Rob 51:28

I mean you're going to have to Rules be rules.

Siobhan 51:34

Rob, I feel like no hold on.

Rob 51:36

I'm really sorry. Now hold on a minute.

Siobhan 51:41

Wait Hold on a minute, wait hold on a minute wait, here's what's up. Wait, I'm, I'm considering right, okay, could I beat you? Yes, yes, the answer is yes. Who else am I gonna beat? Oh, nobody else, maybe. But um, why would you not take out a heavy?

Rob 51:57

hitter oh, I might take out jay that's what I'm saying, sorry, I mean, it's his first time, oh god but you still had.

Siobhan 52:07

Oh yeah, because andy has no lifelines, correct?

Rob 52:10

sorry jay, that's fair man I heart you for the fact checking though it's okay, it's all right, I'll keep that checking wait, can I um?

Siobhan 52:19

can I ask a clarifying question? Currently yes, sure. Can I tap a person who is out of the game for him? Make it a double.

Rob 52:29

I mean they have not left the table.

Matt 52:31

Yeah, in this case I'll allow it. Oh, you will.

Siobhan 52:34

Okay, great, Well, good to know, because he's out, but my thought is next time.

Rob 52:39

He's still a wealth of knowledge.

Siobhan 52:40

Cool story, great.

Rob 52:40

He's still a wealth of knowledge.

Siobhan 52:41

Cool story Great.

Rob 52:42

He could share in that victory with you.

Siobhan 52:44

I love that. Okay, I'll take a partial victory. I like sharing Okay.

Matt 52:48

Andy is staring at me like what. What do you got? Nightmare is coming my way. Oh, andy, who influenced the Numenoreans to seek immortality and rebel against the band imposed by the Valar on sailing westward? Was it Melkor or Morgoth, sauron, eol the Dark Elf or Alway the Elven Smith?

Andy 53:09

It was Morgoth right Slash Melkor.

Matt 53:12

It was actually Sauron, really Sauron, okay, it was Sauron. He convinced them to start a cult worshiping Morgoth, and then things kind of went sideways from there. Neat Rob and Siobhan are still alive.

Siobhan 53:26

It's a battle of the idiots right now.

Rob 53:30

There's no way I can win this. There's no way I can win this.

Siobhan 53:32

There's absolutely ways you can win this. Not really, yeah, if you do better.

Rob 53:37

I have won, you have too. If I get my question right, I still have one. You have one, but as soon as you get your question right, I'm now out.

Siobhan 53:46

We'll see.

Matt 53:47

Math, all right, yeah, all right. Hit me, which of the following is not a name of Gandalf? So not a name that Gandalf.

Andy 53:54

What was?

Matt 53:55

this question.

Siobhan 53:55

Hold on Hold on what I feel like with the other ones, can I?

Rob 53:59

ask this Gandalf has more than one name. Oh yeah.

Matt 54:03

Just a couple. Okay, are you ready? Go ahead. So not a name of Gandalf, mithrandir, olorin, graham or Tharkun, or all of these were names that Gandalf went by.

Rob 54:18

They're all names that he went by.

Matt 54:21

Are you sure? Yeah, yeah, they're all names that he went by. Are you sure? Yeah, yeah, they're all names that he went by Nice group.

Andy 54:25

But also not nice because I have to drink poop, poop, alright.

Siobhan 54:31

Just question mark.

Rob 54:32

Okay, okay, okay, okay, hoo Hoo.

Siobhan 54:38

Alright, stop Go ahead.

Matt 54:41

What is the name of Legolas' father and what significant role did he play in Middle-earth history? Armalus.

Andy 54:50

Torsolus.

Siobhan 54:54

You guys are horrible, I'm sorry.

Matt 54:56

Hedalus.

Siobhan 54:57

Yeah, now we're all sad that it's not any of those. Okay, great, now we're all sad that it's not any of those.

The Winner

Matt 55:02

Okay, great, all right. Thranduil, King of the Woodland Realm, elrond, lord of Rivendell, celeborn Lord of Lothlorien, or Gil-Galad, chieftain of the Dunedain.

Siobhan 55:13

Can I put this on someone's tab?

Jason 55:16

Yeah, I mean, if you have that, yes.

Siobhan 55:17

Yeah, I do, but I'm not putting it on Rob's tab.

Jason 55:21

See Jim Put it on their tab.

Matt 55:25

Okay, I believe it is D You're going with Gil-Galad, chieftain of the Dunedain.

Rob 55:30

Yeah, why not?

Matt 55:32

No, I ain't. I can tell you why not I can tell you, because that's men and they're rangers.

Siobhan 55:35

Dunedain of the men, yeah.

Matt 55:38

The Ronduel King of the Woodland Realm, Rob. How many years after the Hobbit does the Lord of the Rings take place, Son of a bitch? 15 years, 30 years, 60 years or 90 years, oh God? And Bilbo looks like he hasn't aged a day.

Rob 55:58

I know this it's either 60 or 90. Oh my God, for the win 90.

Siobhan 56:06

It is 60 days 60 years 60 years 60 years, I knew that.

Matt 56:14

Suck it, okay, siobhan, suck it, trebek.

Andy 56:17

Yes, just for you.

Matt 56:20

Just for you, not for anybody else.

Rob 56:22

Stellar sin. Oh my God, guys, trebek, yay, suck it, walsh, just for you. Just for you, not for anybody else, stellar sin.

Siobhan 56:24

Oh my God, Guys, I'm so excited. I was not prepared.

Matt 56:29

You all climbed the slopes of Mount Doom and managed to do it. When I put those questions together, my goal was to just be an ass.

Siobhan 56:36

Yeah, you succeeded.

Rob 56:39

Well, some of them were rough. There was some tough ones.

Siobhan 56:41

Yeah, you succeeded, you achieved that without putting any questions together. My friend, you had the ass helm on before we even started. Here's my question.

Matt 56:48

Those skinny helms from Gondor. Is that one on each cheek or just one on the head Right up the butt? Oh, sideways.

Jason 56:55

That's unfortunate Sounds painful.

Siobhan 56:58

I am really sad that you asked no questions about Eowyn, who is my fave.

Rob 57:04

I'm sorry, whose name is derived from something having to do with a horse. He didn't ask any questions about any of the females. I know there was no geography.

Jason 57:12

Okay let's point that out.

Andy 57:14

To be fair, Tolkien really didn't do much about the females. Most of the stuff, aside from Eowyn, that Tolkien wrote in, or most of the stuff female-wise aside from Eowyn justice for females on Middle.

Rob 57:28

Earth.

Siobhan 57:28

Correct. Well, you know.

Matt 57:31

Me too.

Siobhan 57:32

It was the 50s. What do we want when?

Rob 57:34

is the female wizards? I ask you.

Jason 57:36

Well, that's okay.

Rob 57:37

I'll ask you Are the wizards.

Siobhan 57:39

actually, I'll ask you no, they had three of a wizard Galadriel was the shit though.

Andy 57:41

Are the wizards actually gendered?

Siobhan 57:44

Well, maybe not. I love that for them.

Matt 57:46

The answer to that is, technically, no, they're spirits, they're not that is the form they took at that particular moment.

Siobhan 57:53

We love that for them. We love a non-binary wizard. We love that for Ian McKellen, who would probably prefer that in real life, I'm sure he would Absolutely Right Well. Yas, Okay, but Galadriel was the shit too.

Rob 58:04

You weren't expecting that, were you, Rob? I?

Andy 58:06

don't know I know Ha ha.

Rob 58:09

I mean.

Siobhan 58:09

Galadriel was cool, though, yeah.

Andy 58:11

Our turn to ask you questions All right, whoa Go for it.

Matt 58:16

Somebody give me another beer. Oh, give me and fire away. Give me your questions from ChatGPT or did you already look at them A bunch?

Siobhan 58:23

of shit you didn't know, because I'm about to ask you some dumb shit. I was going to say go ahead, we went through quite a few.

Andy 58:31

There's an off chance that if you ask me them, I won't remember because I made them like six, seven weeks ago.

Matt 58:46

Can you tell me the name of either of?

Jason 58:47

the two blue wizards, that'd be Blue's Clues and Blue Daba Dee, steve, no, it's Bluey and Bingo.

Siobhan 58:51

Yes, oh, my God, I love Bluey.

Matt 58:54

My daughter would love that answer.

Siobhan 58:55

Jay.

Matt 58:55

Anybody got a guess Is Radagast no, he's brown.

Rob 58:57

I'm going to guess the brown.

Andy 58:58

I don't know. Is Radagast? No, he's brown. I'm going to guess the brown.

Jason 59:02

It's one from Palindo, something like that.

Matt 59:04

One starts with an M, but I can't remember what do you mean, we don't know? We don't know.

Siobhan 59:12

I hate, that.

Matt 59:13

There's a lot of that.

Matt 59:16

There's many of them.

Andy 59:18

There's just the two blue wizards which we don't know what happened to them, and they weren't named.

Siobhan 59:23

Next question oh, this is a good one. What's the name of the region where the Lonely Mountain Erebor is located in the Hobbit?

Matt 59:31

Okay.

Siobhan 59:32

The region.

Matt 59:33

The region.

Siobhan 59:34

So A the Misty Mountains, B, the Gray Mountains, c the Lonely Mountain Range, or D, it is hundreds of miles from any mountain range.

Matt 59:44

That would be D, and I made that question yesterday.

Rob 59:46

Rude rude. It says D it's quite lonely, yeah right.

Siobhan 59:51

Just like his fun notes to himself. I got another one for you.

Andy 59:55

Okay, you asked me about one of my favorite characters, tom Bombadil Old.

Siobhan 59:59

Tom Bombadil oh yeah, we love a Tom Bombadil, Tom Bombadil.

Outro

Andy 1:00:02

What inspired Tom Bombadil? I'll even give you multiple choices. Was it A their creepy cat, the family's creepy cat, was it B his kid's creepy doll. C the creepy man who lived two houses down the street? Or D it was just their uncle. E Hagrid A, the creepy cat. B the creepy doll. C the creepy man that lived down the street? It was just their uncle and they wanted to put him in the story.

Matt 1:00:35

I'm going to go with the uncle because that seems like it might fit, but it's probably the creepy guy down the street. It was the creepy doll.

Andy 1:00:40

It was the creepy doll. Really might fit but it's probably the creepy guy down the street. It was the creepy doll. It was a creepy doll, really the creepy doll.

Siobhan 1:00:46

The description of it meets the creepy doll. Wait, I'm also sad that we did nothing about the Ents, because I love Ents.

Andy 1:00:51

Well, we could have, but those questions would have taken a very long time. Okay, that's fine, we already took a.

Siobhan 1:00:56

really long time we're still taking a very long time If you have to go to bed.

Rob 1:01:01

Yes, and on that note, on that bombshell.

Matt 1:01:04

I think it's time to put a bow on this.

Andy 1:01:07

Depart Middle Earth. If you liked it, you should put a ring on it.

Matt 1:01:10

To the Grey Havens people let's take the ship.

Matt 1:01:14

Uh-oh, we're killed by Sal Uh-oh.

Rob 1:01:18

Oh no, if you've listened this far.

Matt 1:01:21

Thank you so much for listening. God bless.

Siobhan 1:01:23

You probably haven't Goodbye.

Andy 1:01:25

Go do something productive.

Siobhan 1:01:29

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Matt 1:01:40

Today's boozy quote comes from Tolkien, from the Fellowship of the Rain. Ho, ho, ho. To the bottle I go to heal my heart and drown my woe. Rain may fall and wind may blow and many miles be still to go, but under a tree I will lie and let the clouds go sailing by.

Matt 1:01:57

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