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Poly Pocket Podcast
Poly Pocket Podcast
PPP #070: Fata Morgana - The Review
Are you ready for a wild ride? Strap in (strap on!) as we recount our thrilling adventure at the famed sex club, @swingersclub_fatamorgana in Amsterdam. Get a glimpse of the atmosphere, better than expected buffet, and 'excellent company'.
Brace yourselves, as we take a plunge into the world of sex clubs…
So here it is… an informative, eye-opening discussion that could very well be your first step into the thrilling world of sex clubs and parties!
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Hello and welcome to the Poly Pocket podcast of the UK flagship podcast of polyamorism, C&M and sex parties. Welcome to a special edition episode. I'm Hunter, I'm your friend. Bertra is here. Bertra, what are you wearing? Everyone wants to know. Everybody wants to know. Just visualize this, folks.
Butcher:I'm wearing a towel and a smile and a smile. That's what I was going to say.
Hunter:Can you tell we're married?
Butcher:We should do, mr and Mrs and just nail it. We have done that before During lockdown and we won.
Hunter:Yes, we won. Weird, doesn't it? This is everything. So, yes, this is a off cycle special edition. Non interview episode for reasons.
Butcher:It's a review of Fatima Ghana after going to.
Butcher:Fatima, ghana, during our trip to Amsterdam, and we just felt that it was such a good place that it kind of warranted its own review, really as an offshoot, because we kind of just tried to squeeze. What did you try to squeeze? We tried to squeeze a bit of a review in, but so much else happened that weekend it just felt like we'd be here forever, so we thought we'd do a quick 20 minute. Ish, ish, we'll see. Yeah, it's us, isn't it? So I mean, we love the sound of our own voices, quite clearly, if we run a podcast.
Hunter:So 20 minutes Time is a flood circle. History repeats itself. Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go. So Fatima, ghana, it's about a 15 minute taxi ride from the east of town.
Hunter:Yeah, basically. Yeah, we're going to center of town, so it's 15 minutes out of central Amsterdam. Everyone seems to know about it, which again we talked about in the last episode. But the cultural differences If you say you go to a sex club in England, people are going to go, oh Gracie. And then in my time some they just go, yep, cool, it's over there.
Butcher:Which kind of handy, I mean the sign outside is huge.
Hunter:Yeah, you can't miss it. Well lit as well. And yeah, you got this like conifer lined lit driveway and then you end up at. It was dark so I couldn't really see what it looked like from the outside, but it just looked like a big bungalow, weirdly enough.
Butcher:Yeah, although it had several floors to it, so it clearly wasn't.
Hunter:Yeah, I'm just assuming some sort of TARDIS effect is that if you clearly throw it sufficiently Sorry.
Butcher:Play football today.
Hunter:Okay, let's get that out of the way. What was the score?
Butcher:10-0 again. Third game on the trot.
Hunter:Yeah, but one more number than normal get to later on. There was no losers in that game. So we, you get in there and it feels a bit like a nightclub, in the sense that there's a queue of people and everyone's chatting and you chat to people in front of behind and, like you know, the ones in front of behind were all locals. Yeah, give or take, these were not from Newcastle. And you get in and you pay your ticket price. Unlike other parties in the UK, we have to pre register and have to know, like, what you look like and everything about you. There is just like you rock it, and I'm sure it's safe for a lot of clubs as opposed to parties, isn't it?
Butcher:Yeah, you can pre register, you don't have to.
Hunter:So we didn't and we, we just rocked up and paid our money and walked in and you get a key for a locker and you drop your bag of goodies off and shared changing rooms as kind of standard.
Butcher:with these things, what is the point of having separate?
Hunter:change rooms. Exactly, yeah, I believe there are showers in there as well, but I never couldn't find them. I think there was around the back of the lockers. That would make sense. It would make sense because, yeah, but so you, we've got in at this point and we've well, we did.
Butcher:We went straight to the food buffet, which for an all you can eat, as if I say I keep saying all you can eat, help yourself is probably a better term, because you're not going to go balls to the wall for all you can eat.
Hunter:Depending on your point of view of value. It's either really good value to have the food included amongst everything else you get. It's really bad value if it's an all you eat, all you can eat, because I'm sure the place around the corner from us would do much better, like spread of food for less money, definitely, but that doesn't have showers or actually people have sex with no.
Butcher:It technically is also an all you can drink. But, as some poor lady found out to her detriment, I think that was the only sort of bad thing of the night. And that's not even the club, that's just someone overdoing it, I assume overdoing it. Maybe they've just felt very poorly, you know it happens. Maybe they were nervous, but that was that. But you can either have drinks made for you at the bar or there are fridges with wine, beers, soft drinks.
Hunter:The hell if you sell. It was really cool. Yeah, because it's like his. Some here's an open bottle of rose and it's like going into your mate's house and you finish this. I'm having it, anyone mind, no crack on. And it was quite cool.
Butcher:And, from what I could tell, no one was again. Because you're a sex party. There's an element of performance, and it performance in the sense that you have to be able to perform sexually. No one was really rinsing. It's not like everyone's going wow, yeah, let's, let's nail the rose.
Hunter:Yeah, because that's not what you're there for. No, if you go to a bar in Dublin and it's St Patrick's Day, you know you're not going to go and take it easy. If you go to a sex club in Amsterdam, you're not going to get drunk. Yeah, so it's just context, isn't it? But you know, the fact that it's included means you haven't got to worry about once you through the front door. You don't have to worry about paying for anything which is really handy. I kept my. I have an Apple watch, I pay for almost everything through my Apple watch and I had it on me, but I didn't need to and that would have been like I don't know. It was kind of interesting to see what horror was doing at various parts of the evening. My step count was pretty high by that point.
Butcher:I think we you, because you did park run that day did almost 35,000 steps that day.
Hunter:Nearly 36, just just as a minor correction. Okay, and lost steps. So yeah, this is all the boring stuff. So we don't food, don't drink. We've done getting in there and then we'd finished eating, got a drink and then we went for an ample, didn't we?
Butcher:What's that? I don't know. Is that child, one of the children, taking themselves to the toilet? Yes, yes, or they're having a bath? Post their shower, just in case. Yeah, did you edit this out? No, I think it keeps the. We're talking about normalising these things, right? Yeah, we're.
Hunter:We're downstairs recording this. Upstairs, the children are failing to go to sleep. Classic, whilst you have your towel and you smile on.
Butcher:So, yeah, we went for a bit of walk and, like we discussed in the last episode, the people are just happy to talk, super friendly.
Hunter:And that's not just Fatima Gowla, it's everywhere, wasn't it?
Butcher:Yeah, I think it's a cultural thing, I guess. But you know, I've felt at parties previously like some people, like I'm not cool enough to talk to them, I'm not good enough to talk to them, I'm not pretty enough to talk to them, and I just didn't feel like that here, no matter how gorgeous they were, I was like I want to talk to you. I was very lovely. Everyone was very normal and chill and Everybody thought we were very intelligent, which made me laugh.
Hunter:And that's funny because neither was wearing our glasses, which is usually our cheat code for that one.
Butcher:So stereotypical, but yes, also a fact.
Hunter:So yeah, we said before three stories, we found the mid-level playrooms, I think with the top level.
Butcher:Mid-level Mid-level playrooms.
Hunter:And this is fairly early on, so we found a room and it was quiet.
Butcher:And this was after Dress Down around 10.30 as well.
Hunter:Yeah, hold on a second. We talked to a couple first, didn't we? So we were approached by a fairly stunning woman and you got talking and she said should we go and have a chat? And then she introduced us to her partner. And when we sat in the restaurant, didn't we? No, it was a side table, wasn't it? She introduced us to the DIY drinks. We got a chat to them for a bit and they were lovely, but it was a We've talked before, haven't we? A little red, amber, green, and it was an amber. And then we had a little chat and we went let's just go and explore, because it's literally the first people outside of being in the queue that we'd spoken to.
Butcher:Yeah, it's a bit different with your sweet potato fries, where you go for the first thing you come across versus the first thing you come across.
Hunter:As it turns out, it was the second thing we came across, so we got to enter a couple and they were very sweet, and then we moved on, and then we went up to the play rooms and we just wanted to, and I think we have our own sort of approach to this, which is, before anyone else gets involved, we get involved with each other and it I don't know. I think it's sensible, but it just means, whatever else happens, we've taken care of each other's needs and reassuring each other first.
Butcher:Well, we're actually finding this is working for us throughout our relationship as well. It's not just about the sex party stuff. We are finding with how your relationship is Sorry your secondary relationship is developing and how my relationships have developed over the last couple of years. They're actually front-loading the love and attention, and the little bit of something extra special Means that you are not horrifically desperate to reconnect, because, as we've spoken before, you reconnect on many levels. Everyone assumes that it's just the sex. Now you had a date for your birthday on Wednesday. We haven't physically reconnected yet. In fact, I've seen your girlfriend in the interim period went for a couple of drinks, though, which we'll go into more detail next episode.
Hunter:In some ways you've seen more of her than you've seen of me. Not in that way, but just like A bit more social time yeah, so we find that actually it's better for us.
Butcher:So I think it's a bit of a thing that we might continue with.
Hunter:Yeah, and so we haven't actually talked about this as much have we? It does have quite a lot of advantages and, I think, one disadvantage, but let's talk about it next time. So we started playing and then, when we were playing which is lovely and it's always amazing, but round I think we mentioned in the last episode there's like peepholes from the corridor leading to the playroom and this playroom's maybe I'm going to do it in metric just to please the Europeans and annoy the Americans it's about, I want to say, probably the size of this room, Like five by three metres.
Butcher:Maybe bigger, maybe bigger. There was plenty of room.
Hunter:Plenty of room, lots of beds.
Butcher:Pretty much every playroom bar a little cubby, whole kind of two-playroom, sort of opposite one another. They were the only small ones that I personally saw and I remember I was listening to the Bed Hoppers podcast because from what I gather, they frequent Fatima, ghana relatively regularly, in comparison to us anyway and they mentioned about a really small playroom that they ended up in a six-person and you found it.
Hunter:I'm assuming it's the ones that I found. I think you're right. Yeah, I think you're right, but who knows?
Butcher:So are we reviewing what we did or were we reviewing the club, Just the club? I think Everyone knows what we did.
Hunter:Yeah, right, we ate chicken skewers. We did do that, yeah, just to cover that. So, yeah, the playrooms, at least initially, are clean, organised. They are darkly lit, but it's not too dark.
Butcher:There is a dark room. We just didn't go in there.
Hunter:Really.
Butcher:Yeah, like a completely blind as in, you can't see anybody. It's that dark. I want to go. Lots of clubs have that. I want to go again, do you?
Hunter:Yeah, I do Interesting.
Butcher:Do you not want to go again? I want to go again. I'm not sure it's specifically for that room, I'm just curious.
Hunter:One thing we did skip over is there is a dance floor on the ground floor where the bar is. There was actually some pretty good music. It's pretty loud, but as soon as you go upstairs you can hear the music. It's pretty quiet, though, but it's not silent. So you can hear, but you can't hear perfectly, which explains our initial misunderstanding of where the first couple were geographically from Not to Dutch, not to Dutch, and yeah. But the rooms are like large, well organised, they're clean, there's condoms. There isn't no lube. No lube, which was a bit of a pickle for me a couple of times.
Butcher:Yeah, so something for the future and something of note for anyone listening.
Hunter:Yeah.
Butcher:Take your little bag and take your lube.
Hunter:Yeah.
Butcher:Something to call out on that. Actually it's couples and single females, or throuples, which are loaded towards the female side as well. So whilst you're calling out these peepholes, etc. I think I'm not sure if we've ever used the term the wanking dead on this podcast.
Hunter:But have we, you have? Okay, I have never used that term.
Butcher:So in some clubs and sort of more of our friends have called this out because this is the only time you and I have been to a club together, specifically sex club, obviously, I went with one of my partners and they did allow single men in and there was a high element of wanking dead, going on to the point that one guy had to be turfed out of the room by the couple that myself and the partner were playing with quite semi-forcefully at one point because he just wanted to stay there. So that made life a lot. I know it sounds terrible, but a lot easier.
Hunter:Yeah, totally.
Butcher:I didn't feel like I was ever worried, ever watching myself, and probably even more so, more relaxed than I have been at parties previously.
Hunter:I would agree it was again. Is that why I just think it's the demographic, Do you?
Butcher:Yeah.
Hunter:In what way. Just the people who go to those are not entirely, but majority of it, or Dutch, and just culturally they are aware, aware A bit of a chill. Like I said last week, last episode, they are rule abiding, they are mindful, they are fairly, pretty sexually liberated, and so none of this stuff is. No one feels entitled, everyone is being respectful, everyone's following the rules and no one is. I know that you could dive into the cultural parties, but let's just say, if you're in a really repressed place, you may not have A bit of sex on tap and therefore the Wanking Dead is almost like a reflex action of that, which is well, where can I get it from? I can get it from here. Great.
Butcher:Or I can see it in action.
Hunter:Yeah, but in England it's hard to do. In Amsterdam in particular it's really easy, so the need to do that is diminished in that environment.
Butcher:And there just weren't single males roaming around anyway. And there's that part as well.
Hunter:But again, like I said, if you moved Fatima Gaona, all the rules and even that rule to England, I To some degree, I think having no single men really helps. So no Wanking Dead, which is really handy. What else is there to say? So there was an upper floor where we ended up quite a bit. That was worth it. It was a great place.
Butcher:I think it was a great place, I would say again, going back into that sort of respectful piece, there was one of the members of staff, I think. I popped downstairs to go to the toilet and as I came down she said can I ask, is everything okay up there? Yes, I said, well, I can only speak for myself and the people that I'm with. But yeah, she said no one's causing any trouble. No, no one's causing any trouble.
Hunter:You can stop and do a quick survey.
Butcher:But she was like, okay, cool, and I think she was just getting a general sense of whether someone needed to go up there and sort things out. I don't know, it was just. I've never been asked directly.
Hunter:I don't know if we should call it that. So if this needs to be edited, do let me know. We've had, I wouldn't say, trouble, but difficulty in gauging supported in other parts, to be into where the behavior has been not quite right either pre or post. There's also been a new decision in terms of closing and opening functions or making facilities available, and it's not always landed on open ears. So about the A, there wasn't anything to report and B someone actively asking is again really encouraging.
Butcher:And they do check before you go in. Sorry, this is a bit kind of you can't really do a blow by blow of the night, because it was just so good overall and it all feeds into one another. When we came in they said have you been to a sex club before?
Hunter:I knew it. Yes, I have, but he hasn't.
Butcher:No, I said we've both been to parties, because party etiquette is sometimes different. I said I have done a club, he has not. And they just went no, you're fine. I think the confidence that we exuded of this is what we've done. They went yeah, you'll be all right. We didn't look like rabbits in the headlines, trembling yeah fair enough.
Hunter:Yeah, and I got the feeling they were asking everybody, regardless of where they were from. So everyone has that like opportunity to go help us here if you need it. Yeah, I don't think you could identify people who worked there outside of the restaurant easily. They were all just in black, yeah, and also barely ones who addressed.
Butcher:I was going to say so that gives it away to some extent, just a little bit.
Hunter:Yeah, what's the meaning? Was there a spanking room?
Butcher:You know what I was thinking? This I didn't see anything from a BDSM perspective. I didn't see it.
Hunter:but I think it's because, well, we were going for Sex, sex. There is a large jacuzzi and sauna and sauna. Yes, we love a sauna, we do like a sauna. I'm just going to say, folks, if you want your app to pop the next day, just get on with it in a sauna with you know, two or three people people as a minimum and the next day abs are popping. Make them pop.
Butcher:Such a phrase we use at work.
Hunter:Make it pop. I mean, admittedly, the need of us actually have abs in the strict sense. So it's like Borderline, borderline. You can almost see them after we've, like, had sex in a sauna. That's the giveaway, yeah, but it's just.
Butcher:Just everything. There is not a single thing. The only thing I regret from that night and it's not the club was her as an incredibly hot Dutch guy who you were chatting to in the men's loads, and he came out and sort of looked me up and down and went, oh, your boyfriend. Because he realised you were my boyfriend, your boyfriend's. Very lucky, I went. Well, that's interesting because my boyfriend's in France, my husband, on the other hand, is the man that you're talking to and he just went. Well, you are very attractive. I was like I saw you and I don't know, what to do.
Butcher:I just won't do anything. She got you things. I don't know what to do. She had done, I don't know, hallway.
Hunter:But like I say, that's not the club, I thought you said hallway, then Hello, Different rules that apply.
Butcher:That's the Dutch directness, but it wasn't, and that's what one of the couples said to us at the beginning of the night. The couple that we didn't play with but had a glass of wine with is the Dutch have a directness to the level of and they don't even mean it to be rude. This was a Dutch guy telling me this. So if there's any Dutch listeners who think it's a load of rubbish, then please do say. But the Dutch will literally stop strangers, other people in the street and say what you're wearing today doesn't suit you, you shouldn't wear it again.
Hunter:I'd love to experience that. I want to know what it feels like to have the confidence to say that to a stranger.
Butcher:Exactly. But also it goes back to they didn't have the step-by-step checkbox of other parties, which, for example, killing Kittens, that works in this country, the cultural, you know, step-by-step and making sure that everybody's doing what they should or shouldn't be doing works With this. It was the biggest stuff. It was more, I don't know it was.
Hunter:Yeah, I'm still trying to decompose this into something that makes sense, but I think it comes down to nothing about the place, it's the culture, and the rules of the place are dictated by the people who attend, from the culture.
Butcher:Yeah, I just think you know there was direct questions. To move to the next step, Well, Well, there were then lots of little micro steps. Does that make sense?
Hunter:Yeah, apart from the person that came up to me and says I want a dick.
Butcher:I was in question. That was a statement.
Hunter:Fair, but all the like intermediary steps and questions got skipped over there.
Butcher:But she wasn't touched. She was not From our perspective then. So we've always talked particularly myself about being sapiosexual, which means that I always thought that KK, where it has and I know other providers in the UK have a level of this as well where you have the pre-party chat rooms beforehand I always felt like that was the way forward. For me.
Butcher:However, the best times that I have had have been the KK New Year's Boom, where we didn't spend that much time on the app prior and only met up with one person that we'd been speaking to, who then you went on to date for a few months afterwards. The other time was when I went to the club with my partner, and that was a sex club there's no prelude to it, although he connected with a couple on a different app afterwards the couple that we played with. So there was still some level of connection post, but pre-nothing. And this and it really intrigues me because I think when I know I can just throw off all the shackles and press literally the fuck it button, I can fuck it yeah.
Hunter:And again I've been thinking about this one and I think the pre-party chat stuff and all that stuff is of high utility for building a community and for building confidence in new people.
Butcher:We lent into it a lot the first time we went, didn't we? Yeah?
Hunter:And it does feel like it's the right way to go, and for some people it will always be the right thing to do because they like doing that. I think for us it's, and my, I think our experiment is the next party we go to. I don't think I'm going to join the chat group.
Butcher:I I will, just because I want to know who's going, mainly because I think they, we love them dearly. But I think that was a little earlier time where the wax that might have been a little bit broken Because we went from getting maybe four or five likes a week from various people never from single kittens with, I say weirdly, I think we've had two in the whole time. That's good. Yeah, I think that was very early days, but we literally had we were laughing with Hawke and Hankel about it yeah.
Butcher:Because we were like we're so lonely.
Hunter:But it has gone very, very quiet and it's either. I personally think it's algorithmic. I think it gives you a boost when you're a new member and, depending on how active you are, you can basically yeah, you can see the same thing in other social media platforms. There's lots of ways of like managing the numbers to make popular people more popular.
Butcher:Well, when we were in the club, one of the couples that we met I'm not going to say where they come from because I don't want to give anything away, but they, I'm going to guess Newcastle just as a random guess. Everyone was reading Newcastle. Everyone was reading.
Butcher:Anyway, I'm not going to say where they're from. But they had an OnlyFans account and they had made a good bit of cash from it. But he was telling me how difficult it is to keep it going because the algorithmic thing the more you do, the more you have to do in order to keep pushing it. And I said to him that's really interesting because very different use case, but we have the same when we're doing our Airbnb bookings.
Hunter:I like to start as a review of Fatima Garni. Now it's gone to OnlyFans account in Airbnb. I'm waxed.
Butcher:But we, literally we haven't had anything for weeks. And then we suddenly got this two random single males that came out of nowhere with, of course, absolutely zero interesting comment. And so we said to Hawkenhankle oh look, so we've had nothing. So I do wonder whether it's been a little bit.
Hunter:Whatever it is the the. The underpinning of this little segue is the pre-party chats have a purpose for some people some of the time, and I think it has reached the end of it being useful to me, and the reasons are because we didn't actually explain. This part is one, of which is and this is actually one brought up by my still get to be formally named other partner.
Butcher:And wasn't it missing?
Hunter:decision. I think we're going to call it missing decision, even though she's now got a decision coin or, I know, have a decision coming for us.
Butcher:I can't remember. I think that was what we I can't. She did come up with a name or anything. It's anyway.
Hunter:Maybe it's us, maybe we're the problem so, which is if you go on the chat and you like the sound of someone, you like the look of someone, and then you meet them and go oh no, this doesn't work A bit fucked. Well, no, no, no, exactly. But you know, are you obliged to? But if you turn on the strength of character, you have it. What if you are obliged to have sex with someone that you don't actually like because you've set it up? That's what's going to happen. That's a very even if it's not that it's just an awkward position to be in. So that's one scenario.
Butcher:The other one is Often, depending on the side of the party, don't actually bump into the people that you've been talking to.
Hunter:Exactly Like you try to engineer something with, especially what are the balls? The balls are like six or 700 people in there.
Butcher:We've been lucky the couple of times that we've done. New Years, for example, one of the couples that we were talking to we saw on the first time we went as we came out the toilets. That worked out well. And then obviously, the lady that you went on to date for three months. The second time that we went, she's just popped up at the end of a bed and said, hi, can I join in? Yeah, and we basically waved her over and something good came up that for three months or so, and then the other side.
Hunter:yeah, so there's all that, but you kind of tease onto the last part, which is, if you overplan something and it's very tempting to overplan it you are missing out on the opportunity to have, in a relatively structured world with all this structure around it, genuine random interactions and genuine fun. There's a little bit. So I totally understand what the value of the chat rooms is.
Butcher:Same. I'm not dismissing them, I'm just saying I think we've changed.
Hunter:I think we've outgrown its utility for us. And yeah, if you're on the fence, though and I'm gonna, I'm personally gonna I'm gonna join the chat, you know.
Butcher:Just join it to see who's going on anything I don't wanna know. Do you not?
Hunter:Okay, audience. Apologies, dear listener. Radical left turning conversation. We've got two children. As you know, we did not find out the gender of our children because I Both of us. Both of us did, but my reasoning was what?
Butcher:There's very few surprises in life. Both of the thoughts.
Hunter:Yeah, but there are very few surprises in life which are good news, or at least not bad news. Yeah, don't talk about chatty, but you know it's like outside of most news, especially if you're on a certain age. Any news that's a surprise is probably bad news. You don't unexpectedly get a promotion unless you're very lucky. And even if you win the lottery, you still enter the lottery. So you think you're gonna win. But when do you get the chance to have a complete unknown and you get to choose to have the unknown happen to you. That's such a gift and we actually don't take enough risk in our very heavily cultivated society.
Hunter:So not going on an app to find who's going to a party. You're going to go to the party anyway. You're going to meet those people anyway. Even if you decide to meet someone, you may not bump into them. Have a bit of risk, play with that risk. It's actually good for you. I've read a whole big paper recently about how our us avoiding risk is leading to anxiety and possibly has a link to diagnosis of ADHD, for example, because youngsters are avoiding or sorry, or removed from the opportunity to take risk. So we're all adults. If you're not stop listening, we're all adults. There is nothing wrong in having a little bit of risk and having fun with having fun.
Butcher:That's something that's your safe, like health wise. Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly.
Hunter:So I'm talking about specific kinds of risk, not just like arbitrary risk. Otherwise you go down the motorway, don't go down the motorway, and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Okay, but this is low key managerial risk. But that little frisson of excitement of not knowing what's going to happen or who you're going to bump into. It could be crap, but it could be magical. Be open to the opportunity for both, Because you will learn something from both.
Butcher:I would say, yeah, I am in agreement with you, but there is a site, but because we know a lot of the community and that's the difference for us is we've been around, we've been kicking around for a few years and so yeah, whereas it's not like Fatima Gona where you turn up. You literally don't know anybody.
Hunter:And that's again comes out to one of the groups. They are useful for new people, for people who actually like the community. I love the community, don't get wrong. I think you're all wonderful, and I mean it's not just the wax community or the fabaswing community, whatever it is. You're all fabulous. I don't spend an awful lot of time on the chat groups because I like meeting people. I don't like doing online chat stuff, so maybe it's a meeting, but I am well. I am far more interested in meeting people than chatting to them online.
Butcher:Yeah, to be fair, I saw between the fact that quite focused on Duolingo and keeping you straight, you're going to be very rarely actually properly look at the app these days.
Hunter:Well, as I'm temporarily between work, I am spending more time looking at it. I'm amazed at how little actually there was to do on it.
Butcher:But that's again, I think that's us, it's not them. Like wax is a great provision, yeah, and works incredibly well, and we wouldn't be here without it, absolutely it's just. It's that thing of we're kind of again new phase of growth. I think your new partner is helping that next phase of things.
Hunter:And it's just for both of us.
Butcher:For both of us. Yeah, 100% for both of us, and that's something that we'll touch on in the coming weeks, I think. But yeah, is there anything else that I say? We towels were abundant and plentiful, I just felt clean. It wasn't. It was hot, but not ridiculous, apart from the steam room.
Hunter:The sauna Sauna sorry.
Butcher:Even that wasn't stupid. No, you could manage. Yeah, manage. Cucy was big, dance floor was big. There was lots of sort of seated areas that we didn't really make Much. No, do you solve?
Hunter:I didn't see any play on the ground floor.
Butcher:I don't Other than in sauna or in the sauna, but in the round the dance floor.
Hunter:There's lots of seats around the dance floor and everyone was either dancing or sat down, but no one was like.
Butcher:Don't know, I didn't really like. To be honest, I did and I didn't see anything.
Hunter:Okay, yeah, the crowd didn't talk about the people who go. So, oh, you know we did brief dance time, but you know the crowd is. I mean, there was a couple of quite young girls who I would have said early twenties. One of them was stunning and but most of them are sort of 35 to 45, maybe 50. And then there's like, but there's a long tail in both directions, but the bulk of the most 35 to 45, I would have said yeah, or maybe yeah, yeah, that kind of age range, yeah.
Butcher:Yeah, it's just felt good. Did we talk about the taxi rank? No, there is a taxi rank outside for when you go home as well. Just be aware it's kind of pricey. It is pricey. What do we pay in the end? 85 euros for a 15 minute taxi.
Hunter:I think the way there was like 30 in the lube 80 on the way back in a taxi.
Butcher:But you don't have to think at four o'clock in the morning.
Hunter:Yeah, which is also the thing that we didn't say which is opens at nine, finishes at four. We left at about 20 past half past three, and it would been getting quiet for about half an hour Whilst people were sticking out. Less was happening from three o'clock onwards. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, so like the core hours are 11 till three, it would seem, which makes sense, yeah.
Butcher:That's that you know. Some of the guy at the start of the night did say if you're still here at four you'll be helping to tidy up.
Hunter:Yeah, so I think we thought we'd be at exit 320.
Butcher:But no, it all, yeah, just felt right and, like I said, I think, earlier in last week's sorry, the last episode, everything felt like we were there at the right time for the right reasons For us personally, For us personally. So you've got I would say, you know we're giving this an extremely glowing review. Okay, yeah, that does not mean you're going to go there and necessarily have the best night of your life, because if you meet someone who's a complete asshole, you know you could be feeling a bit under the weather. I was feeling a bit under the weather and yet still had an amazing time. So, but you just don't know. But for us, on the bare basics of setup, how it's run, you know, in comparison to other things, it is definitely the best thing I've ever done from this perspective of sex clubs, sex parties, etc.
Hunter:Yeah, I'd say last New Year's ball was a close second where that was a very good event, but this was still it's in first place, isn't it?
Butcher:Yeah, I would say it's going to hold. Maybe it's because we were just having such a wonderful time, it's because there was food. Well, that did help and I was starving when we got there. But this is what I'm saying is that, you know, we came off the back of that New Year's party with KK being like wow, and I think for us it's always there's a bit of an after party as well. It kind of keeps the juices flowing, so to speak. So that particular New Year's party had that. This obviously had the next day shenanigans as well. So it yeah, you kind of feel like a bit special. I guess it's something like oh, I'm here with these people who have decided to spend additional time with me. This is really cool.
Hunter:It is really cool. It does make me think that I would like to explore more of the club scene in the UK, having not done it yet. I'm really intrigued because I have now got this like stack of theories and put them to the test a little bit of that. So if you have a club in the UK D-list that you would like to recommend, come at us. We'd love to hear from you. Indeed.
Butcher:Indeed.
Hunter:Anything else you want to?
Butcher:say that was definitely longer than 20 minutes. I'm really sorry.
Hunter:And we covered a huge amount of grounding. You think you're becoming only fans account.
Butcher:I said nothing about I'm not doing, only fans. I have not got the headspace for only fans. It's definitely not going to be foot pics, is it? No, I've been touching my foot during this and going how does anybody find me attractive? Because no one's looking at your feet.
Hunter:Sorry, darling, it's true.
Butcher:Right On that note, on that note. Yeah, keep us and your protection and your foot scourer, fuck you and your pocket, your pocket, anyone's pocket, it's Cup Pockets. Oh my God Right.
Hunter:Okay, we're going to have to give you my favorite.