Celebration: Halloween

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Prepare to voyage back in time as we unravel the intriguing roots of Halloween, starting from the ancient Celtic festival Samhain, journeying through Irish immigration during the potato famine, and exploring forgotten Manhattan traditions that led to trick or treating. A riveting tale awaits you where a Chinese factory worker's plea for help emerges from a Kmart graveyard kit, and a misunderstood Halloween incident involving a marine in a tutu and a disabled veteran tugs at your heartstrings. 

Intrigued by an Irish folklore character called Stingy Jack? We've got that covered too. His legend forms the crux of our Halloween traditions, including the carving of Jack-o'-lanterns. As we whirl through decades, witness how costumes mirrored popular culture from Daisy Duke in 1980, Marty McFly in 1985, to Jim from Jem and the Holograms in 1986. Let's also take a quick trip around the world to see how Halloween is celebrated in different cultures and what unique customs they hold.

Don't miss the latter part of the episode where we engage in a lively debate about Halloween candy choices and revisit the origins of this spooky festival. Would you partake in our billion-dollar idea for a festive holiday? Or perhaps you'd rather explore the history of Ragamuffin Day and the lore of Stingy Jack and Jack-o'-lanterns anew? As we wrap up our Halloween special, we extend our wishes for a Happy Halloween and urge you to share a piece of bread with anyone asking for soul cakes!

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:51

Oh Boy, oh hey, sorry, we're not big on the Processed fake chocolate stuff around here. But I have a rock let candy corn One bite of Brasau la. I've got some. I don't understand Candy oh.

Speaker 2: 1:17

Fucking house. Happy Halloween, owen McMichael, this this holiday.

Speaker 1: 1:28

Halloween, my friend.

Speaker 2: 1:29

Yeah, this holidays is Basically your holiday and people don't even know it cuz you're Irish American, which is the reason why it's even freaking here. Okay, that's the end of this story. Uh, one of the things that I read, okay, before we get into some of the first parts of where Halloween comes from, on my End of the stick, bro, is actually they say that part of the reason for Halloween coming to America like it did was because of the Irish potato famine and All the people coming from Ireland to escape, you know, hunger, starvation, and so they brought along with them their, their traditions, all house, even all that, and Samhain, whatnot, and then they, uh, they Americanized them a bit. Yeah, pretty neat.

Speaker 1: 2:16

Wow.

Speaker 2: 2:16

Yeah, so very Irish holiday, my friend. Very American holiday, very much like you know single, to Mayo, which is a very Chicano holiday, very Mexican-American holiday. People don't realize that one either. All right, let's go Merca. What do you think about that, bro?

Speaker 1: 2:34

That's pretty cool. It's definitely a fun, Fun holiday. Leave it to the mix to have like a. You know let's dress up like scary things and dead people and all that.

Speaker 2: 2:43

Yeah yeah well, you know and see that the Halloween roots are in the ancient Celtic festival, samhain. That's why you know thus Ireland, all that a pagan, religious, religious celebration to welcome the harvest at the end of the summer, when people would light bonfires and wear costumes, ward off ghosts. In a century, pope Gregory, the third designated November 1st, is the time to honor Saints. Soon after all Saints Day came to incorporate some of the Traditions of Samhain, kind of like they're explaining that this was held around this time of year because this is when you harvest and you know Now that they're not on the Gregorian calendar.

Speaker 2: 3:19

All the 12 months stuffs the same right like 31st, 1st, 2nd. So all Saints Day and then all souls day are the big celebrations of their Saints, and then there are people who didn't become Saints, basically that died. And then all Hallows Eve, which later became Halloween, was the one that kind of came from Samhain and all the Irish Gaelic traditions. And that's kind of convoluted if you're not Catholic, especially like I'm not, and I didn't have much knowledge on the fact of this all Saints Day, which lands on November 1st and 2nd, and kind of loosely pry ties into the day of the dead for our Mexican Folks down south right, like how that those dates all merged and came together. You know which. They are all different holidays, nonetheless Halloween, think I said some of the stage there. I hope.

Speaker 1: 4:16

Yeah, october 31st 1922, benito Mussolini was elected into power, and you know that way.

Speaker 2: 4:23

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 4:24

Yeah, I did read some interesting stories surrounding Halloween, and an Oregon woman found a note inside a graveyard kit she had purchased from Kmart. The writer was a factory worker in China who claimed he and others were enslaved and tortured. Oh my god they made toys in a forced labor camp where they worked 15 hour days with no days off nor wages. He pleaded for the letter to be turned over to the World Human Rights Organization, and the woman did indeed alert the organization, and the camp was closed and the man was freed.

Speaker 2: 4:55

What so? That's a real story. It wasn't like a prank I was waiting for, like the trick.

Speaker 1: 4:59

No, I mean as far as something I just read online. But that's amazing. I like that story. Yeah, there are just some interesting. There was one unfortunate Halloween misinterpretation. One Halloween evening a marine wearing a tutu saw a uniformed cloud man in a wheelchair. Assuming the wheelchair bound man was making a mockery of servicemen and women with a beneath portais costume, the marine attacked him. As police were arresting the marine in a tutu, they informed him the man he attacked was not wearing a costume but was in fact a disabled vet.

Speaker 2: 5:33

Oh my God, what is wrong with people that?

Speaker 1: 5:36

I don't know. Yeah, that's terrible. But yeah, I mean, who would be that awful to make that a costume? I mean, I guess there are. Yeah, they're pretty bad. There are human beings out there, bro.

Speaker 2: 5:49

Hey, do you know? What have you ever heard of Raga Muffin Day?

Speaker 1: 5:53

Raga Muffin no.

Speaker 2: 5:55

OK, and they have.

Speaker 2: 5:57

Yeah, raga Muffin Day, on November 26, 1911, children ran rampant through Manhattan. Some wore Gourish masks modeled after George Washington, uncle Sam or various other political figures, and smudged cheeks, don like ragged clothes, looking like hobos and stuff. So it was right around the time of Thanksgiving and on this day at least, the children literally took possession of the streets of Manhattan and New York. Dressed in their shabby as finery, these figures would go door to door collecting apples, candy, pennies or other snacks, asking for anything for Thanksgiving. So anyway, this was the thing that happened in New York and it's kind of forgotten about because at the time Halloween was being celebrated in certain communities but there was no trick or treating. What they would do, the Irish, would have a sitting party or something like that.

Speaker 2: 6:50

I have a term for it somewhere and I can't find it, sorry guys, but anyway it would be where they would all kind of do it as a community and sit around and cook food and share stories and honor the dead, and that was kind of their Halloween. That's the original Halloween for these people that came over. But this Raga Muffin Day, which means it's like the hobo day, it started in Manhattan and that's where they would go around for Thanksgiving actually and start trick or treating and getting stuff and at some point in time because it was like they became pretty unruly- and.

Speaker 2: 7:26

I read some of them somewhere. By the 1920s they were looking to outlaw Halloween and stuff like that because people were doing pretty bad tricks, like. I heard a story where these boys were like they had a long, thin wire that they put across a sidewalk and they were tripping people, because I guess that became a thing on Halloween there where they would just trip people all over the place. So, yeah, well, anyway, this happened and this guy fell down and these boys went over to make fun of him and shit, like some assholes because this is what it was back then, I guess and this guy rolled over and shot one of them in the chest. They kind of put the end of the Raga Muffin Day style stuff. I feel. I don't know if that's the actual incident of it, but it was so popular.

Speaker 2: 8:15

It basically took off at the same time as Abraham Lincoln declared Thanksgiving to be a national holiday in 1863. And so when that happened they're celebrating it so closely together. They kind of did away with it and also people considered the fact these kids were dressing like hobos and making fun of poor people and all this shit during the Depression was pretty like in poor taste, right. And then somewhere along the line later, which I don't have the specific dates they decided that they would actually move Halloween to the 31st, and I'm pretty sure this is a candy company decision of sorts, you know, some sort of greeting card, because Halloween's not even like a holiday, guys, it's just a celebration.

Speaker 2: 8:59

Like we decided it was on the 31st or whoever, and everybody decided to say, yeah, that's fucking right. Happy Halloween, guys. Makes sense. All Hallows Eve, you know, in America anyway. So that's one of the theories. Is that that's why it's on the 31st instead of what it should have been, I guess, which was like the first or second, I don't know, something like that. Nonetheless, ragamuffin Day is what trick or treating comes from in Manhattan. There you go, sir.

Speaker 1: 9:26

Awesome, yeah, I did see Halloween. In 1864. Nevada was admitted as the 36th state. Only Nevada in West Virginia were admitted during the Civil War. That's why Nevada claims to be a battle born state. A common misconception is that Lincoln was after the bountiful silver mines and all the mineral rights, but not so much, as Nevada was already union territory. What all it did need was the votes in the upcoming presidential election and for ratifying the 13th Amendment to slavery. So that's basically why Nevada became a state when it did.

Speaker 2: 10:01

Wow, ok, my holy shit.

Speaker 1: 10:04

And then another interesting occurrence on Halloween Halloween night in 1957, as a couple was just getting to bed, the doorbell rang Well quite late for trick or treaters. The man got up to hand out more candy and answered the door. It was not costume children up past their bedtime, but instead a masked adult who shot the man in the chest, killing him. Turns out the shooter was the girlfriend of a woman who had been romantically involved with the slain man's wife.

Speaker 1: 10:30

Oh, my god, the murder, had been convinced to kill the man by her girlfriend who wanted the wife all to herself. Where was Jerry Springer? I mean, it's not funny because someone got killed, but like this is yeah.

Speaker 2: 10:41

That's pretty insane. Yeah, all right. So I'll be damned. You know, a lot of places celebrate Halloween as it is. I mean, I'm sure it's said slightly differently based on the languages, but I don't know. I think it might just be Halloween for the most part.

Speaker 2: 11:01

These countries that I'm going to read off all celebrate Halloween, and I broke down the list. I did some real like journalist research. You know, I had to graph, chart stuff like that, all these things, and then I had Google, and so the very popular countries for Halloween are as follows and they have Canada first, united Kingdom, united States we all, you know, we know United States is like the biggest on Halloween. Anyway, I mean, that's just hands down type shit, but these other countries also Celebrate Halloween. Austria. They have houses hanging in orange balloon outside to signal their participation, which is kind of cool. So they know.

Speaker 2: 11:38

Belgium, czech Republic, dominican Republic, france, greece, hong Kong what Now? All the way out there? Now India, italy, japan, and it's largely enjoyed by adults in Japan. Okay, so it says Malaysia, new Zealand, poland, romania, russia unwelcomed by many. Rwanda, unwelcomed by many. Serbia, go Serbia. There we are. Singapore, south Korea, sweden, switzerland, taiwan and the United Arab Emirates. All right, so these are all countries that, yeah, they really do.

Speaker 2: 12:11

You know, there's there's more Notes on some of these countries that celebrated alongside their traditional holidays, but I don't feel like I should get in too much of that. There's like, oh, it's kind of in the Netherlands, where they celebrated, it's over shadowed by st Martin's Day, and then I also seen in France that there was a pretty big oh oops, my bad people in England Guy Fawkes days, a big deal, and it's like there was a Plot to blow up Parliament back in the day. I don't have notes, this is just what I know. So, anyway, these guys like ran at a house close to the British Parliament, dug a tunnel under it and put a bunch of gunpowder under it and Shit like that.

Speaker 2: 12:52

So, that's like, and they all I guess I'm Guy Fawkes they like Put a mask on of this guy or something similar. You know now that I think about that shit. I know that history now because I don't think I did before, but it reminds me of that. Fuck. What's the one the guy with the mask like? And it's in England, damn it, I might have to have to come back to this one anyway. You know the, you know that group, anonymous, the hacker group, and they have that fucking mask. What is that mask? God damn it, people Mask. I think I know what you're talking about, but I don't know it's okay.

Speaker 2: 13:31

Anyway, maybe I'll come back to that later. Anyway, it's a mask, so it's Halloween counts stain an episode, guys. Nonetheless, these are all things that people do on Halloween.

Speaker 1: 13:41

And now you know, everyone knows the song monster mash. Yeah take it for granted that fellas played well in 1962 Monster mash by Bobby Pickett and the crypt kickers no known affiliation with grave diggers was number one on the billboard hot 100 chart. It is released in August and the song hit number one on October 20th and stayed for two weeks. It was a huge hit as a combo you know fat of the early 60s monster movies and fast, and the people are fascinated with them and twist style dancing.

Speaker 2: 14:11

Yeah, so that's yeah.

Speaker 1: 14:14

I mean it is a catchy. Yeah, just that crypt kicker. I'm like huh.

Speaker 2: 14:20

Bobby Boris. Pickett Boris is what he went by for the more, yes.

Speaker 1: 14:26

Then of course, halloween. You know huge on the horror movies and I think there's none finer than the Titled Halloween, yeah, by John Carpenter Mm-hmm I'm in which was shot over 20 days for a little over $300,000 and gross 47 million in the US alone. Holy shit, 70 million worldwide. So not a bad deal. And they paid Nick Castle the man who played Michael Myers, you know, walking around with the mask on $25 a day. I mean. Then back then I looked it up that's still, it's like about a hundred twenty dollars, but still for, like you know, being in a movie, that's yeah, you know.

Speaker 2: 15:11

Yeah, what is that guy do now, I wonder? Or he's still alive?

Speaker 1: 15:14

you know, hopefully he harasses Scott Bayo yeah.

Speaker 2: 15:18

Yeah, for 125 a day 250.

Speaker 1: 15:28

Once a week. But, yeah, interesting, you know, the music to me is a huge part of that, the whole thing. Carpenter decided to set it in the suburbs to make the audience feel more vulnerable.

Speaker 1: 15:40

You know, this wasn't some right when you live and you're watching this and this guy's Terrifying, but he composed the score himself, so Dang, that was pretty impressive. I mean, it's a pretty simple, but it's just a haunting chilling like, yeah, I don't really stir easy, but I remember seeing that as a kid and be like, okay, this isn't like we thought.

Speaker 1: 16:02

the Freddy and Jason movies were actually like comical, because, yeah, silly, this is like Damn, that's kind of yeah creepy and I saw Carpenter felt the casting Jamie Curtis was the ultimate tribute to Alfred Hitchcock who made Jamie Lee's mother, janet Lee, a legend with a role in 1960 psycho. Oh, also, dr Sam Loomis was named after psycho Sam Loomis and the mask is another. Obviously like the music in the mask, I think make it. And I read that production designer Tommy Lee Wallace had to use whatever with a little budget, you know, whatever you could find right or be really thrifty with With spending.

Speaker 1: 16:46

And they made two versions of the Michael Myers mask the first a dawn post and the Kelly smiling clown mask which they attached a frizzy red hair to. And the crew found it incredibly disturbing, very. But then the second one was a captain James T Kirk mask purchased at a costume shop in Hollywood on Hollywood Boulevard for a dollar 98. They ripped the eyebrows and sideburns off and then painted it a bluish white, opened the eyes up of the mask and After testing this one out, the crew found it much more terrifying. Give a blank, emotionless glare, yeah, and Carpenter said he created Michael Myers character with the intent of the audience having no possible later Relate to him.

Speaker 2: 17:29

It was just this yeah, hey, hold on, though I'm out shat myself there because you said that. You said that basically, william Shatner is the face of Michael Myers.

Speaker 1: 17:41

Indeed my friend.

Speaker 2: 17:44

Does sir William get it a cut or anything? I don't know. I mean, was this mask loosely made it does you know after? I won't lie, you did kind of mention this right and I actually looked at it. I'm like, oh my fucking god, it is William Shatner. Every time I look at Michael Myers now I'm gonna think of a young William Shatner. I guess, yeah, what's going on? What's going on.

Speaker 1: 18:10

The famous stabbing effect is actually a nice stabbing a watermelon. Oh yeah, just figured you know Halloween episode had to touch on no yeah, I feel like the greatest horror movie ever man.

Speaker 2: 18:24

Yeah, yeah, no, I'm with it, bro, that was legit the Shatner that is. It just blows my mind like what, what a life this guy has led. You know, good old Bill Shatner, you know, hey, hey, you know I, and also really yes. Yeah right, I really, yes, yeah. Hey, good old Willie, you know, I remember what the fuck the name of that movie was Viva Vendetta, oh.

Speaker 1: 18:52

Yeah, okay, that's what I was picturing, but I didn't even as like. I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 2: 18:57

But I'm pretty sure he blows up Parliament at the end of that movie, right?

Speaker 1: 19:01

Okay, I've never seen it actually. Oh, it's a good movie.

Speaker 2: 19:04

I actually really like it. I mean, I'm not like I don't know, there's movies I'd watch before it, but if it's on and I'm watching it.

Speaker 1: 19:11

Yeah, I'll check it out, yeah, yeah so I don't get out much. You know it came out like 20 years ago. I know right, no.

Speaker 2: 19:23

Hey, check this one out. You want it. Do you want to hear Irish story? Like some Irish lore, right?

Speaker 1: 19:29

You know, do you like it?

Speaker 2: 19:30

You like stories. You like it when? Okay stories. Okay, here we are. So I Want to tell you story of stingy Jack. All right, so here's a story, stingy Jack. It's basically like a popular folk, folk lore, and it comes with the origin of the Jack O Lantern right.

Speaker 2: 19:48

Which was originally a carved turnip, if nobody knew that the, the original Jack Lanterns were turnips. So here we are. Long, long ago, in a small village in Ireland lived a drunkard named stingy Jack. He wasn't held in very high regard by the townsfolk. Apparently, one evening Satan Overheard stories of the devious deeds of Jack and decided he must have this fellow soul. Jack may have been stingy, but he is quite clever. When Satan came to collect the soul, he successfully made the case that the least Satan could do was allowed to have a final drink at his favorite pub, after which stingy Jack left Satan on the hook for the tab. Jack suggested he turn himself into a coin to pay the bill and they would be off on their journey to the underworld. Satan was fooled when Jack took the coin and put it in his pocket alongside a crucifix, thereby trapping Satan in his pocket. Damn stingy Jack. The devil begged and pleaded, and only upon agreeing to leave Jack alone for ten years was he released.

Speaker 2: 20:44

Exactly ten years later, satan found Jack stumbling home from the pub. Of course, right, stingy Jack, right With a heavy sigh. Jack looked at the devil, knowing full well that he intended to drag him to hell. Jack made the request of Satan to climb a nearby apple tree to get him a final snack to eat before the journey southbound. Yeah, saying apparently still not as clever as Jack Climb the apple tree. While Satan was climbing the tree, jack carved across into the trunk, thereby trapping Satan again up in the tree. This time the devil begged and pleaded, and only agreeing to Never take Jack's soul to hell was he released.

Speaker 2: 21:15

Okay, so many years later, when stingy Jack took his last breath and died, st Peter refused him entrance into heaven for all of his evil deeds. That's son of a bitch. Satan refused him entrance into hell due to their contract. That's fucked up. Okay, well, I mean good for him. In one final parting gift, satan gave Jack an ember ablaze with hellfire. Alas, jack was stuck running the earth, only a carved turn up glowing with hellfire to light the way when singy Jack's very Irish.

Speaker 2: 21:43

Yeah right, when stingy Jack ceased to be, jack of the lantern began on Halloween night. Keep an eye out for a restless wandering soul every time you see a jackaliner, for it may just be the hellfire glow From Jack's lantern. It'll stingy Jack, all right, p Anyway damn. Yeah, that's badass. All right, good Irish stuff, all right, my friend, what?

Speaker 1: 22:04

else you got on this I don't know what the Scottish I'm a. I'll add he obviously. But man do that intentionally.

Speaker 2: 22:10

I wouldn't have got it, I wouldn't have known the difference.

Speaker 1: 22:13

It's right on the border. Yeah, she's like. That sounds more like Scottish and dairy responses. Is that on the border.

Speaker 2: 22:23

That's so stupid I like yes, I know I bought right into it. Anyway, nonetheless, great Halloween. Hey, hold on real quick. You know we had a birthday on Friday the 13th. Okay, this go round we actually got a birthday. That kind of I'm gonna cover on both of those. So on Halloween, one of the girls Nevaeh that's her birthday Halloween. So happy birthday, nevaeh, right.

Speaker 1: 22:49

Happy birthday there.

Speaker 2: 22:51

Yeah, and then also on November 2nd, the spooky man himself, my son Adam he. His birthday is on the day of the dead, november 2nd, so happy birthday Adam Spitting.

Speaker 1: 23:03

Happy birthday Adam.

Speaker 2: 23:05

He loves Halloween. All right, we have like Halloween animatronics up Probably will be up all year round now. So anyway, that was cool. What else you got my friend, I'm interested.

Speaker 1: 23:17

Well, obviously costumes are a huge part of Halloween too and since I mean, I I was born in 79, but really the first Halloween I would remember, you know, was the eight years in cult, born in 82. So I figured I'd go over and this I just looked up popular costumes and actually went to Cosmo, I think, was the source on this.

Speaker 2: 23:38

So this is what they claim subscription. You have your subscription, yeah. I'm just super into that stuff.

Speaker 1: 23:44

Yeah, it was just online, but that's that's the source of seemed viable that they would know what. The most popular costume year by year in the 80s. So right, 1980, Daisy Duke. Oh God, of course that's either delightful or horrifying. Like there's no middle ground here. People, yeah. Then we get to 1981. Indiana Jones is the most popular costume. That makes sense. Drunk people with lips.

Speaker 2: 24:12

Great yeah, fantastic.

Speaker 1: 24:13

We've seen those in the.

Speaker 2: 24:14

Allian buildings, my Allian buildings. There is drunk people with bull lips yeah. I was fun, we were playing basketball. It happened. It's the thing.

Speaker 1: 24:25

Anyway, none the less, north Side, north Side 1980, my friend. Annie, oh, little orphan Annie, no way. Yeah. That's a trip I wouldn't have guessed Like that'd be funny to just the dogs like Annie.

Speaker 2: 24:41

Yes, it would. My grandma used to collect orphan Annie stuff. Oh, it's old. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1: 24:52

Anyway, 1983, Madonna the most popular costume. Oh my God. I guess Times Square Hooker was Pat's A by then, I don't know.

Speaker 2: 24:59

I don't know, but 1982, was she that Madonna? Yet that's all I mean. I think she's.

Speaker 1: 25:04

Yeah, I went from Annie to Madonna. What the fuck happened? That's when the cocaine turned on. Somebody hit the cocaine switch.

Speaker 2: 25:11

There's an on and off there. Yeah, hold on. What year is?

Speaker 1: 25:14

it, I guess 1984. Okay, sorry, sorry, I guess 1984 is oh fuck, I don't even know Ghostbusters. Oh my God, how did I not know that? Solid choice yeah.

Speaker 2: 25:24

That's badass. Dude 85 might even top that that bust out the denim or the red puffy vest, Because Marty McFly from Back to the Future.

Speaker 1: 25:32

Oh my God, okay, yeah, man, I wasn't even old enough to be. I think I was like a pirate and a vampire and a Ninja Turtles.

Speaker 2: 25:41

I was like a pirate and a vampire and a Ninja Turtles. A vampire and a Ninja Turtle would have been my most like. What not cost to him, like from a TV show or something.

Speaker 1: 25:55

Cause I lived way out. Yeah, that was the most popular in 1990. Oh, ok, it was a solid choice.

Speaker 2: 26:00

It is a solid choice. I was a Raphael and I think that it would have been 89 or 90 when I was said turtle.

Speaker 1: 26:10

Ok, yeah, so you're on your up, up, on up on things Again. With the cocaine in 1986, Jim from Gem in the holograms was the most. I have absolutely no fucking clue what that is.

Speaker 2: 26:23

Jim from Gem and Jim from yeah, OK, we take it.

Speaker 1: 26:28

We take a very good jump to 1987 RoboCop. Oh yeah, that's Totally boss. No, it's boss, it's boss. The dance is. Sign off on that, danzas? I hope so, yeah, if not. Once again, it's a good thing that Springfield is never on an episode of who's the Boss, or there would have been much confusion as to in fact who was said boss. And in 1988 Garfield, lazy, sarcastic and loving, was on you. Sign me up for the last two. Yeah, 89 Batman, which I still maintain that Batman was the best. Like I don't I know everyone thinks whatever, but like, give me Jack, no disrespect to eat pleasure. Did a great job, I like the Joker.

Speaker 1: 27:15

Oh, yeah, and I mean Ken Batesinger is in it, prince like yeah it's pretty badass.

Speaker 2: 27:21

I mean, I haven't seen a Batman. I feel that would have been on par with, because I don't know, I like the new Joker. That's pretty badass and I did too, but still just like I don't know, it's like it's just darker, it's different, but I also understand where you're coming from on this, mr Nostalgia. All right, mr Nostalgia.

Speaker 1: 27:39

Well, yeah, I was like that was one of the greatest like childhood besides T2. That was like the biggest to get her experience. I felt like, until you know stuff that I won't go into other, like Like for us, like just the movie, yeah, oh, yeah For us Go fast, huge yeah.

Speaker 2: 27:58

I'll get it hey check this out. Jim, also known as Jim and the holograms, is an American animated musical television series. It ran from 1985 to 1988. The series is about a record company owner who's like, basically has alter ego and I've seen unicorns and ponies and she's got pink hair, so it was like a little girl costume, I'm assuming, and or whatever.

Speaker 1: 28:20

Okay, yeah.

Speaker 2: 28:23

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 28:23

Sorry, sorry, yeah.

Speaker 2: 28:25

Anyway, where you at, my friend. What year were you at? Are you done with that? What do you got going on?

Speaker 1: 28:31

I just did the 80s, but then in fact I did, you know, just on, in 79 Superman was the, which seems pretty blazy, but I guess I just was never as big on Superman as like Batman. No, it's kind of just like oh, I can just do whatever and put up for us by breathing and it's like actually that would spread the fire. But whatever, you know we're not going for reality here.

Speaker 2: 28:53

Right, I was surprised. Nobody's captain planet on one of these. So yeah, I don't know. Anyway, nonetheless, have at it. My friend, where's Halloween? Where were you taking us on this Halloween journey? Which path?

Speaker 1: 29:07

Oh, the haunted wonder the spooky one?

Speaker 2: 29:10

I don't know.

Speaker 1: 29:12

I don't know. I will definitely listen to misfits. Halloween on Halloween. That's a tradition.

Speaker 2: 29:18

Yeah, what's your favorite. So that's your favorite Halloween song then.

Speaker 1: 29:22

Um, I guess I, because I don't really that or something like grave diggers probably, oh my, God, yeah, there's a lot of good tracks.

Speaker 2: 29:32

I guess now one of the songs that defines Halloween for me a bit is spooky by Dusty Springfield, because my son Adam, we put that on when we're on our way to spirit Halloween and it's like spooky little dude, like you, you're something spooky. It's pretty good, and then you know with it. So, yeah, it's all spooky. Yeah, I, I shouldn't be singing guys Like anyway, not like that. Nonetheless, hey, I was pretty excited today. I even threw on my vintage microphone to record this episode. I don't think anybody will be able to tell the difference, really, but to me it's kind of fun and it's just like it's the Halloween episode. You got to bust out the big guns, right? Yeah? Yeah, it'll give me that old Casey case and Phil, did I sound like him? I don't know if it did.

Speaker 1: 30:28

Nonetheless, Halloween, all I really know Casey case and this Dana Carvey doing oh, I'm Casey, casey.

Speaker 2: 30:42

Yeah, casey case, and what it Casey case sounds made up it does. Yeah, my name's, uh oh no, I can't even come up with anything. Dirk burglar, yeah, and I know something silly like that. Hey, what's your favorite? Do you even need the Halloween candy? Like what would you if you really could give out Halloween candy and speak really Realistic here? I mean, you can, obviously, but if you were to give out a Halloween candy, on what are you gonna buy these children's? I?

Speaker 1: 31:16

mean, if we're talking, you know so there's gonna be a bunch of Kiddos coming by. I probably go peanut butter cups, that's like solid, so solid, yeah. But if it was just like, if I knew only a few, like I'd give out like legit, like pastries or something I'd be like here oh here's some tiramisu. Like you're out of Napoleon, I go bro put this in your bag, okay. Thanks. Now I get as expensive taste. I don't even know what melted rock, what was coming home with a bag yet covered in $90 pound cheese.

Speaker 2: 31:54

First, I thought it was some sort of dancer from. You know, the Rockettes can't can.

Speaker 1: 32:02

I don't know if I'm good.

Speaker 2: 32:03

No, I mean too much stupid shit.

Speaker 1: 32:05

Nonetheless, yeah, I don't. If I went to somebody's door and they handed me a slice of brisalla instead of a fucking what out candy corn, I mean that's disgusting peeps. Hey, just someone gave my kid peeps, I'd be back at the house.

Speaker 2: 32:19

That's your throw-o man, throw that.

Speaker 1: 32:22

Smush them on their car Fuck you remember the South Park when the peeps blow up in the house and it just like gushes out.

Speaker 2: 32:29

Oh, no man.

Speaker 1: 32:35

I'm gonna.

Speaker 2: 32:35

I think I'm gonna try. There's some kids come out later. My, my, my Nicole's children's our group, not children are from the corn, although some of them are Mexican. Actually all of my kids are Mexican, so they technically could be children of the maze. I don't know, that's a bad joke, I'm thinking, but nonetheless it might stick and Maybe we'll do some like we did on the Easter. I'll see what the kids want for their Halloween candy, if you're cool with that, my friend.

Speaker 1: 33:04

Absolutely. But yeah, if I was there I would buy all those kids, you know, a nice like dessert. Yeah, but I don't know if they liked it some. You know, maybe they are. Some people just are like, oh no, Just give me some.

Speaker 2: 33:18

I'm pretty sure all this yeah, I'm pretty sure all of them would eat some tiramisu, my friend, except for maybe Adam, but he's Basically he's gonna be six and I don't want to give him anything with coffee in it anyway.

Speaker 1: 33:36

Right.

Speaker 2: 33:38

That's why I stick into my son. Why the fuck would you get that out for Halloween? Oh, and you're not thinking this through. Like what are you gonna do Just here's?

Speaker 1: 33:44

some, you're gonna eat it right there, real on this spot.

Speaker 2: 33:46

Hand him a fancy little fork. Yeah, plated. Yeah, we should come up with some sort of tiramisu recipe that you put in like a cone. Huh, man, oh shit, I'm gonna cut that. That could be our billion dollar idea. Anyway, italy, romania, if you're listening, you already got that going. What not? Let us know? So, um, oh, happy Halloween, make sure happy Halloween, my friend.

Speaker 2: 34:20

Yeah, if anybody comes asking for soul cakes, just know that's from the original Sam Hain and don't get freaked out. Give him a piece of bread or something. You know you can just do something like that. But nonetheless, happy Halloween.

Speaker 1: 34:34

Happy Halloween. Don't think this hasn't been charming, I love everybody.