Sleep Token Reaction | with Scott Salvesen

Ever wondered how a simple family photo session could turn into an entertaining saga? Join us as we share a lighthearted recount of our recent family adventure where, despite Sam's unfortunate mosquito troubles, we managed to capture some memorable moments. Our special guest, Scott, who has been molding Tayla's music taste for over two decades, adds his unique perspective and humor to the mix. 

Prepare yourself for an auditory treat as we introduce you to Sleep Token, a rising star in the metal scene. Scott takes us on a deep dive into their mesmerizing track "Take Me Back to Eden," which explores the emotional turmoil of a failing relationship. Listen to our raw reactions and insights as we compare the band's dynamic sound to artists like Sam Smith and Daughtry, marveling at the unexpected blend of serene bird sounds and high-energy sections. The meditative quality and emotional depth of Sleep Token's music leave us both captivated and introspective.

Music isn't just about melodies; it's an emotional journey. We explore the therapeutic aspects of music and the unique concept of a deity named Sleep, which Sleep Token worships through their art. Reflecting on personal anecdotes, we discuss the emotional impact of live music and critique the depth of modern pop music, admiring artists like Taylor Swift and newcomers like Chappell Roan. We appreciate the beauty of imperfections in albums, inspired by David Grohl's views, and discover heavy metal elements in surprising places like Billie Eilish and Beyoncé's music. This episode is a testament to the universal appeal and emotional power of music across genres and generations.

Transcript

Sam: 0:10

Welcome to Babe. What Do you Know About the podcast with your favorite husband and wife, duo Sam?

Tayla: 0:16

and Tayla. Each week we dive deep into a new subject, blending fun and seriousness to push boundaries and buttons.

Sam: 0:24

Get ready to expand your knowledge, challenge your perspectives and have a blast along the way.

Tayla: 0:32

So one of my favorite parts about family pictures is how dad inevitably will complain about it and not want to be involved and then, all of a sudden, five minutes in, he's directing people. Okay, we're going to do this next.

Scott: 0:44

We're going to do that next, uh that has been family picture experience for the last 30 plus years yeah, he did a lot better today, I will say, than in years of your well, it was quick and everyone was efficient everyone was efficient.

Tayla: 1:03

We're getting it down, which is good. I'm excited to get the pictures back. Um, but yeah, I'm. Sam was getting eaten alive by mosquitoes.

Scott: 1:13

I only got one bite I did not get a single one.

Tayla: 1:16

Sam just must be very sweet scott is always a little bit in love with sam.

Scott: 1:23

That's okay, me too it's okay, I knew him before you that's true. I also knew your wife before you that's also true should have just married each other's spouses well, you're the third wheel in that relationship in the with sam.

Tayla: 1:38

Yeah, I'd like to say the same, but hannah, for some reason, does like you that's right so he's like so chuffed. Well, for those of you listening who have made it this far, which is not very far at all, you've heard, uh, a masculine voice. That is not sam's, but it is also a relative.

Scott: 1:59

Scotty boy is back third time guest, I'll have to say oh yeah, so you've done.

Tayla: 2:05

Uh, family bro evening. Religious misinformation and the troubled teen industry and now sleep token, whatever the hell that is oh, you will find out. Your life is about to be changed yes, that's true, I will say um for our listeners. Next week, sam and I are going to try tackle the mammoth topic that is the recent Supreme Court rulings three cases in particular, for now still more being released. So who knows? Hopefully the world is still the world in a week when we record for this, but it's going to be a good one.

Scott: 2:41

Jesus had the right idea when it came to millstones around necks and stuff he did.

Tayla: 2:48

He did have that right idea um bringing jesus in. I like it um so scotty. Tell me what the hell are we doing tonight?

Scott: 2:59

well. So for the listeners who don't know, Tayla has kind of piggybacked off my music taste for the last 20 plus years.

Tayla: 3:06

Absolutely true. Recently went to a Yellowcard concert, as in last week. Went to a Yellowcard concert and pretty much just pictured our basement rooms right adjacent to each other and hearing those songs in that manner.

Scott: 3:22

So Tayla's been piggybacking off my music taste for the last 20 plus years and, uh, I sent her some music a little while ago. This there's a band in the metal community that is absolutely blowing up.

Tayla: 3:37

Good for them, and.

Scott: 3:38

I sent it to her and she did not listen to it.

Tayla: 3:41

Yeah, I was listening. I was. There are so many albums that I've got so I had to listen. I had to catch up on taylor, swift, beyonce, chaperone so many good female artists. I am assuming this metal band is not female.

Tayla: 3:56

It is not, you are correct but that's okay, that is okay I'll show you another female-led metal band, but that is not for this, no, I have to say, like I typically skew, like most of my music tastes are skewed towards like male singing voices, I really like them, but I'm on a, I'm in a girl year this year.

Scott: 4:12

The year I turned 30, I'm just Everyone's. All the big girls are releasing all the big albums oh my gosh.

Tayla: 4:21

and they're so good. Okay, so didn't listen to it. Was catching up on other stuff. So Scott has come into town cornered me and we're going to be listening to it and reacting. Slash Scott's going to be telling me every possible interesting fact about this band.

Scott: 4:40

No, I'll let you blindly react?

Tayla: 4:42

I don't believe you.

Scott: 4:43

Well, we'll start off with a brief introduction. So they've been a band for a while. They've actually been in the metal scene for a little while.

Tayla: 4:50

Like what's a while.

Scott: 4:53

Like four or five years.

Tayla: 4:54

Okay, so that's not that long, though.

Scott: 4:56

No, they haven't been around that long.

Tayla: 4:57

Yellow Card was like our 20-year anniversary of Ocean Avenue.

Scott: 5:01

So they're pretty new, but not like brand new no, they're not brand new, but it's not like they've. You know, people have been listening to them. This is not like a brand new thing, but they released an album last year that like blew them up, like is it different from their other stuff?

Tayla: 5:17

or just people happen to it's?

Scott: 5:19

it's the same style, but the the writing is just so good, they just got it. They just, they just. The writing is just so good, they just got it. The writing was just so above and beyond what they've done before that people are just like whoa and yeah so, but they're from England, they're an English band.

Tayla: 5:38

Oh, I don't think I've listened to too many English rock bands, to be honest.

Scott: 5:42

There's quite a few good ones. I know have listened to too many english rock bands. To be honest, there's quite a few good ones, but I want you to look up right now, do a google image search of sleep token and tell me your first reactions okay, here we go um see a bunch of mosques.

Tayla: 6:02

Wow, they look like satanic.

Scott: 6:05

So what, what, what kind of they look like?

Tayla: 6:07

like they look like orcs that have painted the white hand of sauron on their faces nice, so what, what, what's kind of like the expectation you're going in now I'm expecting some pretty heavy stuff, um, and some probably really excellent lyrics that I can't quite understand until I look up.

Scott: 6:27

That's what I'm expecting interesting, so we're gonna start like, you've perfectly fallen into my trap you have fallen into my trap okay, so so what we're gonna do is we're gonna start with uh, uh, they're a song called take me back to eden, which is about a failing relationship, and uh, we're gonna start listening to it and you will. I'm not gonna spoil too much, because I want your raw reaction, but you can pause and talk about it all right until then.

Tayla: 7:00

Okay, here we go. Take me back to Eden.

Sleep Token: 7:41

I dream in forest forrests, bleed through spaces, see you drifting past the fall, but no one told you where to go. We dive through crystal waters and perfect oceans Perfect ocean, but no one told me not to breathe. And all the weightlessness recedes Okay.

Tayla: 8:40

Okay, okay, definitely not as advertised by their physical appearance and their costuming well, what do you think so far? Uh, it's almost meditative. Uh, his voice. I'm trying to think what his vibrato reminds me of someone, but it is very like emotional rock song yeah, people have said he's.

Scott: 9:13

He reminds them of um. Oh, what's the guy's name? It's like sam sm Smith with grit.

Tayla: 9:23

Okay, yeah, hannah, I just heard Hannah in the background. She's like, I think a mix between Daughtry and Sam Smith is probably pretty accurate to what he's kind of sounding like.

Sleep Token: 9:40

But then also like.

Tayla: 9:40

not at all, it's unique. I like the birds. I wonder what birds I'm like. What bird is? That I don't remember the title of the song I know eden's not a bird, though I want to know like what bird type it is. And I'm surprised you don't know, because guess what, when I used to ask scott, when people used to ask scott, when he was what like 10, 12 13 I know they would ask you what do you want to be when you grow up? And guess what scott would say bird watcher a bird watcher.

Tayla: 10:08

I've never heard of a kid saying they wanted to be a bird watcher. It's really cute. Okay, I'm liking it so far. Here's the thing I looked ahead at the like sound waves and it's like solid at some point, like it's just like a solid wide. So I don't know what I'm in for, but I'm excited yeah, you gotta.

Scott: 10:28

You gotta wait for the chorus all right, here we go um, you're a funeral pyre.

Sleep Token: 10:42

Come now, bite through these wires. I'm a waking hell and the gods grow tired. Reset my patient violence Along both lines of a pathway higher. Grow back your sharpest teeth. You know my desire. I will travel far beyond the path of reason. Take me back to Eden. Take me back to Eden, to freedom. Take me back to freedom.

Tayla: 11:57

Wow, that was the. We just listened to the solid sound wave that was so good. Though I have sound wave that was so good though I have to say it was really good yeah, I mean lyrically, it's just like so sad.

Scott: 12:14

But like you know people, people tend to. When you see it online, people are like, oh, I wish like a man would say those words to me and I'm, like you know, it's a breakup song right, it's a break.

Tayla: 12:26

Yeah, you're like you didn't understand the lyrics. No, it's um, something that I like is that, especially in that chorus they really go hard. Uh, the drum, the drumming is amazing, but his voice is still. It stands out among all the noise, just just the cadence, the tone of his voice. It's high enough. It's not, um, like, I really love Avenged Sevenfold, love, love, love. But his voice often gets lost in the same sound as the rest of the instruments. Uh, except for I mean, he does such a good job. This isn't a criticism at all. I freaking love avenge sevenfold, but, um, his voice definitely stands out a lot more, and especially him going to those really high notes?

Scott: 13:08

oh yeah, he can. He's got an incredible range, um, and that that kind of helps a lot yeah to hit. I mean, I mean, they use eight string guitars. That's how they can get that oh my gosh.

Tayla: 13:20

So I didn't even know that was a thing one thing. I will say very american accent for a british band no, they are very, very british uh, yeah, not, not in the song. I will say he's like forever or whatever. I don't know what word it was, but I was like whoa.

Scott: 13:36

There it is it's the rock accent right yeah, your mind's about to be blown. For the next part, though you're gonna, you're gonna look at me like what just happened yeah, I will say.

Tayla: 13:46

My eyes just went like okay, it's gonna happen again all right, here we go.

Sleep Token: 14:05

Well, yeah, I spit blood when I wake up. Sink porcelain stain choking up brain matter and makeup. Just two days since the mainframe went down and I'm still messed up. Room feels like a meat freezer. I dangle in like cold cuts, missed calls, answer phones from people I just don't trust. Merit, talk, fake love, but I'll take a pound of your flesh before you take a piece of my place up. White roses, black doves. Godmother, rise, I need you to see me for what I have become. My, my, those eyes like fire. I'm a winged insect. You're a funeral pyre. Come now, bike through these wires. I'm a waking hell and the gods grown tired. Reset my passion. Fire, that's a thump. Both lines of a pathway higher. Grow back your sharpest teeth. You know my desire. Was that the same song? It's the same song.

Tayla: 15:11

Well, this chorus is the same song.

Scott: 15:19

It's the same song.

Tayla: 15:20

Well, this chorus is the same Same chorus, kind of it didn't feel as heavy as the first time I heard the chorus.

Scott: 15:26

The same lyrics, same melody.

Tayla: 15:29

Yeah, the drum wasn't going right the same way.

Scott: 15:32

No, they didn't have the guitars.

Tayla: 15:33

I was like, is he rapping? Like he's kind of rapping a little bit.

Scott: 15:39

Yeah, it was, didn't expect it, I was funny watching your reaction because you were like I really like the chorus and you were like got the big eyes, and then again when he did to the second verse, you were like what just happened literally because it didn't.

Tayla: 15:51

I was like maybe it's because we're just cutting it and pausing, but it was like a very surprising turn of the song oh, yeah, he went.

Scott: 15:57

He went r&b yeah, he's good.

Tayla: 16:00

He kind of has interesting pronunciations of words like div instead of dove div. Yeah, that's what happens when you're you're towing the line on accents. It's so good, though, okay, that he does a good job actually of the like sing rapping thing. I prefer it when people sing rap rather than just straight rap well, you're talking. You know 90s rap where yeah, exactly, more sing, so good, so good 2000s rap, where it was more edm yeah, no, I like it.

Scott: 16:28

What a time that was 2000s rap where it was all edm who like what?

Tayla: 16:33

what song timberland? Okay, okay yeah, you're right, you're right. Um, yeah, it's good, it's really good. I can see two more sections of this song and they're mostly again solid sound wave yeah.

Scott: 16:49

So what's gonna happen is he's gonna do the third verse, which is you'll see, and then you'll see the, the pause, and then we can stop there, and then it'll be the big finale okay, I'm stoked.

Sleep Token: 17:29

I guess it goes to show, does it not, that we've no idea what we've got until we lose it. No amount of love will keep it around If we don't choose it, and I don't know what's got its teeth in me.

Tayla: 18:25

But I'm about to bite by in anger. It's so good the lyrics in that part, holy crap.

Scott: 18:45

Now you'll read the lyrics and you'll be like this is some of the best lyrics you'll ever know it is.

Tayla: 18:50

I like I don't, even even without reading the lyrics the fact that I could also like hear and digest. It's really difficult to have super powerful music and also have the lyrics decipherable, understandable, like in the moment that you're hearing it. So the, the tempo and everything like really works in that part. It's really good. The piano okay, so tell me who's in the band. They have four people in the band.

Scott: 19:13

Well, so there's really two people in the band. So there's the lead singer who does all the instrumentation except for the drums, and then, when they go touring, they add a bassist and a guitarist for real, just the drummer and him so, so really, there's two like full-time members of the band, which is the lead singer who does all the instrument that is crazy.

Scott: 19:36

I was like, surely there's like a concert trained pianist he does all the instruments, so all the studio recordings, except for the drums, is the lead singer oh my gosh, so does he.

Tayla: 19:48

So is he using the keyboard to make the instrumentation, or is he? Playing the guitars oh my word, some people, some people are just really good. That's ridiculous actually what?

Scott: 19:59

what I really like is like every, every verse has been three verses.

Tayla: 20:03

They've all been very different, but also, yeah, I mean, they connect and then you know, and now ready for the.

Scott: 20:09

So we had the first chorus, then we had the, the second chorus, now are we ready for the big finale yeah, I'm still sorry, my mind is still blown.

Tayla: 20:19

That there's the drummer's very good I really like the drums.

Scott: 20:22

He is considered one of the better metal drummers in the industry right now that's easy to see, like easy to hear.

Tayla: 20:28

So true, okay, here we go.

Sleep Token: 20:30

Thank you. We've sent my patient by an antelope Both lines of a pathway hired. Come back, your shop is deep. You know my desire. Yeah, baby, there was no accident. You know my desire, I just need a little more.

Tayla: 21:47

I will come home for another kind of reason. Take me back to the dark, take me back, take me back, take me back.

Sleep Token: 22:22

Wow just when I thought, I just when I thought I couldn't be surprised again.

Scott: 22:29

The whisper scream, uh yeah, the fry that's a fry scream is what it is where oh, there's different.

Tayla: 22:36

Okay, you gotta. You gotta, educate me on the screamer because a lot of people I speak to like don't realize that usually when there's screamo in a song, people are not actually screaming well, no, they can get that loud.

Scott: 22:48

there's a lot of artists that can but that's a fry scream where it's like the back of the throat, like if you go, ah, you know, you know, the California Valley goes like, ah, that's a fry. But then you add power to it and that's a fry scream.

Tayla: 23:02

Huh, that was a lot, but it was good. I mean, it was good. I think it helped that you've heard the lyrics a couple times before, so you know what he's saying. Yeah, the drums man, the drums. That's what he's saying. Yeah, uh, the drums man, the drums. That's what's getting me. I was like this guy is the drummer's really good he is really good drummers have to be so freaking, fit and buff to just play this stuff.

Scott: 23:26

It's insane they have another song. We won't listen to it tonight, but they have another song where um the drummer is playing jazz lines during the metal song. And jazz is jazz.

Tayla: 23:38

Drumming is supremely difficult yes, and he's playing, oh my a jazz line during during the song that is so dope. Okay, so tell me a couple interesting facts about this band, outside of what you've already told um I don't know.

Scott: 23:52

That's well, so they have, you know, the masks and the gimmick right.

Tayla: 23:57

Right.

Scott: 23:58

And the kind of the thing is they've incorporated worship music. I don't know if you caught that.

Tayla: 24:06

I mean, take me back to Eden, right? I mean?

Scott: 24:09

So what it is is the kind of the gimmick is there's a deity by the name of Sleep. The kind of the gimmick is is there's a a deity by the name of sleep, and they are like the vessels of sleep and the music is the way you worship the deity.

Tayla: 24:25

Oh, it is a little, and that's their.

Scott: 24:27

That's the whole shtick.

Tayla: 24:29

Okay, it is a little like I don't know how to say it a little like yeah it's like a little like like satanic, but not of satan no, and it's, it's um.

Scott: 24:40

It's not meant to be satanic, but no and when and when they, when they announce tours and stuff, they say, you know, come and worship with us.

Tayla: 24:47

It's kind of their thing, oh, okay, I mean, it is it, almost it, and this is why I think you've always liked metal is there is a very strong emotional, spiritual experience, especially with the instrument. Well, tell me, tell me more about that well, that's well.

Scott: 25:01

I'm convinced, um, and my wife will attest to this, that any you can go to any live music it doesn't matter who it is, what genre.

Tayla: 25:13

If it's done well, you will enjoy it yeah, yeah, I, I, sam and I went one time up uh to sundance um for dinner one time, and it wasn't at the nice place, it was at their like bar food and there was live like folk, country music going on.

Tayla: 25:32

Zero interest in country music, zero interest in country music emo for cowboys, I know but like just not my cup of tea at all, not sam's cup of tea at all, and we she was so good and the band was so good and we were just like man, that was so good. I totally agree.

Scott: 25:52

Like I totally agree well and uh, we went to a hosier concert about a month ago in New Jersey. Okay and I know like three hosier songs yeah, there's the famous. He's so good though, right but then we went and I'm like, okay, like.

Tayla: 26:05

I'm a fan I.

Scott: 26:06

I know like three songs that he's played, but I enjoyed myself the whole time because he's supremely talented and the production was very, very good yeah and so, and, and that, and, and that's. You know, that's all art. Art is supposed to elicit emotion. And I think that's the big criticism with pop music these days is it's very emotionless. It doesn't have a lot of um like, it's just the churning it's it's the churning out hits that you know.

Tayla: 26:34

It's the formula and it's like well, you'll make a lot of money but it's not going to like stand the test of time.

Tayla: 26:40

Yeah, I think Katy Perry's. She hasn't released the album or the song yet, but she's released like a couple of sound bites of her recent song and like it's got all the elements of like what should be a good song, but it feels like very emotionally disconnected and very just like meh, even though again, I'm like katie perry is amazing, she's got an amazing voice, she's great performer, but like there's just a lot missing in the small piece of this song that I heard. But I have to say, as someone who's been like listening a lot more to just music, that I don't usually listen to, like Taylor Swift, my our cousin Janelle's like a huge.

Tayla: 27:18

She's a huge fan, queen Taylor literally, though, because so, um, I have never been a Taylor Swift fan, especially in high school, like when she was super, but even like as she got into pop, as she went to 1989, that stuff, I was like it's good, it's just I wouldn't listen to it, right, um, but my janelle is one of my best friends, slash cousin, and she's super, super into it, and she visited in 2022 and I just found out how big of a taylor swift fan she is, and so she had two albums come out since then. One was the midnight's album and then now the I always want to say the dead poet society, but the torture, the tortured poets department. Um, and I've. Those are the only albums I've been like. Let me listen to the album. They're very good because she is very emotional about what she writes. Whether you, it's your cup of tea, whether, um, a lot of the songs start to sound like a little bit similar.

Scott: 28:15

They're all emotional and the lyrics are just well. The jack antonoff synth pop. I just can't stand it. That's my criticism of the. The poet, it's the, you know the doof, doof, doof, and then like the synth over the it's so good though it gets repetitive like I listen oh, we can.

Tayla: 28:32

So the second half, and again like bearing in mind that she's written and then produced all of those in less than a year while she's been doing a world tour.

Scott: 28:41

Um, she released accused taylor swift of not being supremely talented at what?

Tayla: 28:46

no, no, what I'm saying is like the second half of the album is, I think, a lot more repetitive because she and that's why it's called the way it is is she wrote a bunch of poetry and lyrics and they put it to music so they could just release it. Uh, that, the second half, I think, especially. It's all very good, but that's, I think, why the production is quite similar in that second half, which I will listen to like not all together. First half, a lot more diversity, because that was like the main thing of the album.

Tayla: 29:11

But my point is that, and then chapel roan, who I've already mentioned pop music ridiculous, so good, the lyrics are so good and just the way she sings is so unique. Uh, I'm a huge fan, along with the rest of the world in the last two weeks apparently, but I I always like, come into, like, especially when people blow up like this. I'm always a little bit skeptical and like are they that good though? Is it just the one hit? Listen to the whole freaking album. Every song is so good because of what you're saying, which is just, but it is in pop, so I think.

Scott: 29:41

Well, the thing is is there's a reason, like the early 2000s and towards the 2010s, why emo was so big? Yeah is because it's therapy. Well, it is therapy. It's it's these guys who are super angsty singing about what they know of, and it's these guys who are super angsty singing about what they know of. And it's these guys who are, like, not that great instrumentally, like they're not that great at guitar they're not that great.

Tayla: 30:04

And serenade, they're not that great of a singer, you know they're not that great of singers at all like they're.

Scott: 30:09

They're kind of whiny but they sing about stuff that's relatable relatable yeah and they, and they really like, take it to heart. They, they feel, they feel what they feel, their feelings, where I think a lot of modern pop is just so sanitized and it's like it is well, and dave grohl, who was a drama for nirvana and the uh, the lead singer of foo fighters.

Scott: 30:31

He talks about this in his book that my wife gave me for my birthday one year. He he says like there is stuff in our albums that are mistakes and that's fine because it makes us more human yeah, yeah, and I will say he's a huge taylor swift fan.

Tayla: 30:49

I don't know if you knew that david growl fun fact billy eilish is heavy metal musically it kind of is yeah, we went to a concert and you had to kind of like replace your sternum by the end, like same with, I would say, beyonce.

Scott: 31:05

It's just like the bass is so well, formation has a heavy metal drum beat I love it so much.

Tayla: 31:12

Okay, this is interesting, though. So I I think I understand more and more. You know, I love metal too. I definitely have to be like in a mindset, and I can't do it for too long because it's too much Like. I get too into it. I get so.

Scott: 31:26

A lot of people. A lot of people are like, oh, it's metal. And I'm like, no, there's lots of genres of metals. You do get the extreme stuff, and I could show you some Russian.

Tayla: 31:34

And you're into itussian, and you're into it yeah, you're into it.

Scott: 31:36

You do have to like the extreme stuff, you do have to be in the mood and for but a lot of metal. I mean, the most famous metal band in the world is metallica and they don't scream, hardly at all. Yeah, and it's like some people give it a bad rap, I'll I'll always say the the problem with metal accessibility is, and always has been, the vocals, because people you know tend to think it's screaming and when they do scream they turned off by it and it's like I can.

Scott: 32:03

I can understand that, but uh, what's his face?

Tayla: 32:07

from 30 seconds to mars does a pretty good job that was back when it was mainstream.

Scott: 32:13

Yeah, emo was really mean.

Tayla: 32:14

He does a good job like not kind of balancing the screamo with like not screamo singing yeah, I much anymore, but yeah, yeah, yeah no, I think, um, I didn't think especially like when I was younger.

Tayla: 32:30

I feel like the older I get, the more I need like chill stuff. But I think it's because I listen a lot while I'm working, so I can't be distracted by music while I'm working because I am. I'm like you, where I just like that's all I'm thinking about and listening to, um, but I will say, the one time that I was just like I literally cannot hear middle again for a few months was when I went on you, with you, to a road, on a road trip from Utah to Florida.

Tayla: 32:54

No that's a three day drive and it was the whole time. I fell asleep, kept me awake To freaking metal. Yeah, he didn't want me to drive Um he did drive. For a time, I think one time for like two hours out of the whole thing. Um, it was fine, like again, I really liked the music, but by the end I tired yeah.

Scott: 33:20

So, speaking of chill, we're gonna do song number two for tonight yeah, I, I am excited to see, like, what else they have. So so, yeah, yeah, so this is the the final song of the album, and their first three albums have been like this story right. So they've. They've woven the story in the first three albums and so if you listen to the first song of their first album, this is a callback to the very first track on the first album, but I think the song is way way better.

Scott: 33:50

So okay and it also kind of shows off this will show off kind of the musical, the musical genius and now that we know it's one dude, yeah well, yeah, and you'll see, you'll recognize like this is the song where it's like okay, it's just good song right, yeah, okay, okay, uh, tell us what it's called it's called euclid. Who was? Who was a greek mathematician, okay and I don't know why they called the song after this greek mathematician.

Tayla: 34:20

But but they did, but they did. Okay, here we go.

Scott: 34:23

It's like a old school fallout boy where they had random oh, my gosh names and they none, the song is not related, not at all.

Tayla: 34:31

Yeah, okay, here we go.

Sleep Token: 34:49

Just run it back. Give me five more minutes. I am thick, tar on the inside burning. I've got a ghost in the hallway grinning and a heavy hand that won't stop turning If my fate is a bad collision and if my mind is an open highway. Give me the twilight two-way vision. Give me one last ride on a sunset skyline. Call me when you get the chance.

Sleep Token: 35:23

I can feel the walls around me closing in.

Tayla: 35:30

Okay, I'm already seeing what you mean. He kind of pronounces things like a lot of pop like his pronunciation of things sounds to me like a lot of pop slash rap singers, like how they pronounce things.

Scott: 35:47

It's interesting yeah, and that's, I think, very intentional in his part because they do kind of. It's that progressive metal where they genre bend a lot I mean clearly like that's, it's really beautiful.

Tayla: 35:58

Like I wouldn't uh classify it as middle at this point, which I know is about to change, because again I can see the sound waves well, and and it kind of like I said, this is the, this is the song, it's like just good the lyrics are really good already the second verse is better.

Scott: 36:17

There's a. There's a line that's kind of my, my favorite line of theirs in all of their discography well, tell it, tell me, tell me the line.

Tayla: 36:24

No, I won't tell.

Scott: 36:26

Okay, well, after you're gonna point it out, you're gonna have to see like once they, once they do the second verse you tell me, if I don't, if I don't catch it um, you'll have to tell me Life like wires.

Sleep Token: 36:40

As I see the past, on an empty ceiling, I play along with the life signs anyway. But oh to God, you don't know this feeling. Yet in reverse you roll my symmetry A parallel I would lay my life on. So if your wings won't find you heaven, I will bring it down like an ancient bygone.

Sleep Token: 37:06

Call me when you have the time, I just need to leave this all of me behind.

Tayla: 37:19

Okay, it's a longer line than I thought, but tell me it, it's the angel or it's the.

Scott: 37:23

If your wings won't find you heaven, I will break it down like an ancient bygone.

Tayla: 37:27

Ho ho ho. Tattoo number four.

Scott: 37:33

Eh, I don't know if I'd get song lyrics.

Tayla: 37:36

What You're. Such a song stand that I'm surprised by that.

Scott: 37:41

I'd maybe do like an AI art of it, but that's one of my favorite lines of there because this is kind of the book end the three albums that they have so far kind of tells the story of a relationship. And now this is like the book end of like you know the whole thing, so that's, that's a good line. There's there's some lines at the end that I really like too, but that's one of my favorite lines of theirs say it again um remember you have to go if your wings won't find you heaven.

Scott: 38:09

I will break it down like an ancient bygone huh, it's a good line, really good line.

Sleep Token: 38:15

Okay, here we go do you remember me when the rain gathers, and do you still believe that nothing else matters For me? It's still the autumn. Leaves, these ancient canopies that we used to lay beneath.

Sleep Token: 39:12

No more no.

Tayla: 39:20

Super interesting musical choices there.

Scott: 39:22

Yeah, so we've now had the two, the two verses right. So you had the, the first verse, which is kind of it was kind of fast paced, he was talking very quickly, and then the second was very slow. Now pay attention to that as we get to the the grand finale. Okay, this is the professor, this is this is where the songwriting you, you're gonna, you're gonna smile okay.

Sleep Token: 39:48

I must be someone new. You know, for me, I can't be my own. It's still the odds of me. These engines are running so deep. The roads get all way down these ancient curves around me. I'm afraid if I could be made, we used to lay beneath and try not to wake. But you and I were so lost I said, for all this power, all my life is up and I've been lost to you. I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own and I belong to you. And I belong to you. This power's mowing through, this power's mowing through. I must be someone new. I must be someone new. I'll find you and I'll know you. I'm not a nation. The voice of your eyes, soak in the low light. In turning divine, we're all blind. In turning divine, we tangle endlessly Like lovers entwined. I know for the last time you will not be mine. So give me the night, the night, the night.

Tayla: 42:11

So give me the night, the night, the night. Okay, yeah, he kind of finally puts together the piano piece like fully with the middle side, which is really cool Resolution resolution yeah, did you. So the he the two verses yeah, repeat, like cycles through, but they syncopated. Yeah, yeah, same time, so good see, it's just good songwriting it is really good songwriting.

Tayla: 42:35

no, I, I really like him. I didn't know if I would, just because I don't know why, I don't know why I still after all these years, like kind of question you shouldn't question I shouldn't question. No, it's so good Sleep Token. We have worship well tonight. We have worship well.

Scott: 42:56

That whole album is really good.

Tayla: 42:58

What's the album name? The?

Scott: 43:00

album is called Take Me Back to Eden, like the first song, oh cool. We actually didn't tackle their most popular song. It's called the Summoning, which people have called. It's very strange, they call it baby making metal.

Tayla: 43:15

Oh, okay, sam, we're going to listen to that later.

Scott: 43:19

But it's very interesting because they have a jazz song on that album. They have a song.

Tayla: 43:23

What's the jazz song?

Scott: 43:24

It's called Aquaregia.

Tayla: 43:26

Aquaregia.

Scott: 43:28

And it's a jazz song. Okay.

Tayla: 43:30

You'll listen to it. I'm going to have to listen to it.

Scott: 43:32

And they have an R&B song on the album as well, that's like all R&B. That's why they're kind of classified as progressive metal, because it's like they're very clearly fall in the metal genre. But progressive metal kind of does those it relies heavily on, like other influences it does do um, you know, non-traditional song structure which we've seen uh twice, where you have the first one, where it's three very different verses and then combine at the end and change genres like four times and then you have this one where it's like you have two verses and then that's the whole song, and then, and then you know, like I said, the their, their most famous song by far is called the summoning I'll have to listen to it.

Tayla: 44:21

That's the baby making metal okay, and then I wonder why it's so popular it, and that song blew up on tiktok like people like rappers are like you know.

Scott: 44:32

Rappers were going like. This is good really good.

Tayla: 44:35

Yeah, well, and it's it's.

Scott: 44:38

It's one of those weird song where it's like this is a heavy, heavy song, like it is a lot heavier than what we listen to, but then it's like, oh, it just works then, and then it just works okay okay, well, I like it.

Tayla: 44:51

And uh, now that you've held me hostage, did you get, did you get out of it what you wanted to? Yeah I mean, did you get the satisfaction?

Scott: 45:01

I did get the satisfaction because you had a big smile on your face the whole time yeah, it's really's really good. Well, and also like listen to the stuff I sent you.

Tayla: 45:09

I will, I will. The other thing I will say is, you know, I think quite a lot of our listeners are probably not typically metal listeners. I feel like this is probably a really cool, interesting, like toe dip into metal and like the world and the musicality that I think a lot of people don't really assume is in metal.

Scott: 45:26

If they're not really exposed to it. Yeah, people who like don't like metal like this band.

Tayla: 45:31

Yeah, I mean, it's easy to see why I like it. Sleep token, it's been fun to have you. Next week's episode will be super different, so this is probably a good like blue palette cleanser before we weed right into the gutter with everything that's going on. But we hope everyone has a good day before 4th of July. You're in the States. Hope you have a good time celebrating your freedom while you can. It's a joke, just a joke, and we'll see you all next week. Thanks, scotty, for coming, peace out, homie. Thanks for listening to the Babe. What Do you Know About podcast?

Sam: 46:09

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