Exploring Feminism, Equality, and Women's Rights: Historic Linguistics and Modern Implications

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Ever wondered why the term 'men' has historically referred to both genders or does it? Does this subtle language nuance impact our perception of equality? In our enlightening discussion, we dive into the complexities of feminism and equal rights, affirming that our society is indeed ready for a woman to hold the highest position in the country. We touch upon work equality and how it manifests in different industries such as construction, and discuss how women can play a decisive role in modifying key legal documents like the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence.

Did you know that the interpretation of the phrase 'all men are created equal' has varied over the years, oftentimes being used to justify oppression and drive change? Let's delve into this and more, as we unpack the topic of abortion and women's rights. We take you through the different stages of pregnancy, the legal implications of a woman's decision to have an abortion and how a woman in power can effect such changes. We conclude with an engaging discussion on the importance of embracing our differences to create a more equitable society. Tune in for a fresh perspective and deeper understanding of feminism and women's rights.

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Explorando el feminismo, la igualdad y los derechos de las mujeres: lingüística histórica e implicaciones modernas


¿Alguna vez se preguntó por qué el término 'hombres' se ha referido históricamente a ambos géneros o no? ¿Este matiz sutil del lenguaje afecta nuestra percepción de igualdad? En nuestra esclarecedora discusión, nos sumergimos en las complejidades del feminismo y la igualdad de derechos, afirmando que nuestra sociedad está lista para que una mujer ocupe el puesto más alto del país. Nos referimos a la igualdad laboral y cómo se manifiesta en diferentes industrias, como la construcción, y discutimos cómo las mujeres pueden desempeñar un papel decisivo en la modificación de documentos legales clave como la Declaración de Derechos y la Declaración de Independencia.

¿Sabías que la interpretación de la frase "todos los hombres son creados iguales" ha variado a lo largo de los años, y a menudo se usa para justificar la opresión e impulsar el cambio? Profundicemos en esto y más, mientras analizamos el tema del aborto y los derechos de la mujer. Te llevamos a través de las diferentes etapas del embarazo, las implicaciones legales de la decisión de una mujer de abortar y cómo una mujer en el poder puede efectuar tales cambios. Concluimos con un

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O.G. GOAT: 0:13

Hello guys, let's get started. This is your pod host OG GOAT, and tonight's episode is feminism defined. Okay, there's been a lot of controversy in the media and the news we all know that. About feminism, feminism movement and a lot of people don't want to talk on this topic. I don't see why it is what it is. Women are a part of this society as well as men. I mean, it's a fact. Things are not the same as they used to be. It's a fact. Women are now able to hold all types of positions, any position a man can hold now hold that thought, because that's going to bring us back to something major, extremely major. I was asked today by a young lady. She says to me are you a feminist? And so I think it's only proper that I begin this podcast with my definition of feminism and how I arrived to my decision. I believe my decision is not bias and I believe it's. It makes sense.

O.G. GOAT: 2:02

Okay, as I begin to break down feminism, I'll begin with work equality, the right to hold a position the same as man and get paid the same as a man. I want to use the construction industry as my guide here and you can take it from that point and apply it to any other position or job or career. Should a woman be allowed to do construction work? Well, I think we've passed that point already. I see many women doing construction. However, I feel, if a woman weighs 90 pounds and she's working in the construction industry and she wants to make the same as the men make, but there's a position, let's say we're going to make up something here in the construction company called loading and unloading. Let's just use it. Okay now this position requires the employee to be able to lift a minimum of 100, 150 pounds. This woman is 90 pounds. I've had several jobs that require me to lift a certain weight. Okay, so there's nothing unusual about that, and in the construction industry things can be a lot heavier than other industries. So there you have it 150 pounds. She weighs 90 pounds. She wants the position. Fine, Tom, Mike, Richard and Susan, you'll be loading and unloading the trucks. We don't have no lifts. This is a manual position. Each bag of cement weighs approximately one hundred to a hundred and fifty pounds. Okay, so the men can lift it and the female who weighs ninety pounds cannot. She can't have the position, she can't take the job Bottom line.

O.G. GOAT: 4:44

Now another woman comes on, she weighs two hundred pounds. Two hundred and fifty pounds. It's how that muscles. She works out on a regular basis, or whatever the case might be. She laughs at the fact that we say the weight is one hundred and fifty pounds, but bad, because the woman benches two fifty. Can she have the position? By all means? There's nothing wrong with that. Should she get paid the exact same amount as the men working side by side alongside of her, holding the same title? Absolutely, she's doing the same job, absolutely.

O.G. GOAT: 5:26

Now the other young lady who's also working in the construction industry, who is unable to be a loader, takes on a different position. Maybe she's a flag person or whatever the case might be, something that she's capable of handling. Now, the flag position. Let's create some numbers here. Let's say the flag position holds a salary, a base salary, of thirty five hours an hour as opposed to sixty thousand hours like the loaders. Should she complain that she's only getting paid thirty dollars an hour or thirty five hours an hour, unlike the other guys in the construction industry that's getting paid fifty and sixty thousand hours, loaders or unloaders or whatever the case might be? No, you're not doing the same job, you're not. Should the vice president get the same amount of money as the president? No, you're doing a different job. Should a female police officer get the same amount as a male police officer? Absolutely, you're doing the same job. It's not that complicated. I don't see what the the issue is. It's not that complicated.

O.G. GOAT: 6:39

There's nothing that I've seen that says women are not allowed to hold a certain position, and if I'm wrong I mean I don't know everything, but if I'm wrong, please somebody correct me Is there a position out that women are not allowed to hold? Okay, I'll be waiting for your responses on that. Okay, now, in addition to that, we have not had a woman president, but does that mean a woman is not allowed to hold that position? I don't think so. It's just that she has not been elected into that position. Now we have a woman vice president, WHOA! Race. None of that matters.

O.G. GOAT: 7:51

What matters here is, when you're talking about feminism, you're talking about a woman in the position as vice president. So let me get this correct. If something was to happen God forbid to Biden, does she automatically move into his position and assume the position, or do they bypass her and elect someone else? I'm not completely fluent in this area, but I do think she moves and takes over until a president is elected, so she becomes the next in charge. Now, with that being said, that means that she has the ability.

O.G. GOAT: 8:46

If I'm correct, correct me if I'm not, but in that she has the ability and the declaration of independence, where it says all men, and if she has this ability to make a presidential decision, there is also a line that states that the law, the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights can and shall be modified if it's any proof of abuse or misrepresentation or what have you and those that have the power to modify this would be your House of Representative, congress, the president, all of which positions are available to women. So, with that being said, a woman has a the power to enforce and modify the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence, especially if she's president of the United States. So if I go to the amendment of the Bill of Rights, amendment 24, it states, section to the Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. Doesn't deny the woman position. A woman could be that you know, have that position in Congress. Of course you need to think it's three-fourths majority, but there's no way a woman could partake in the decision-making of legislation and not be allowed to hold a position. That wouldn't make sense, not in my book anyway.

O.G. GOAT: 11:17

The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or election for president note it said citizens, it didn't say man or male. It said citizens, which would include male and female, unless there's a distinction in any in other election for president or vice president section one. In case of the removal section one, amendment 25 in case of the removal of the president from office or of his death or resignation, the vice president shall become president. I think that solidifies what I spoke about earlier. So, with this being said, when we go back to the Declaration of Independence and it states that all men are created equal, I get the eerie feeling that and after reading the Declaration of Independence that it applies to, it's referring to men, not women, and for that reason you have women in charge, women, you have women who are vice president. The first woman vice president has the power, if something was to happen to the president, to make a change, and I think this needs to be changed.

O.G. GOAT: 13:16

Let me see something here. There's a question proposed here. Does the Declaration of Independence say all men and women are created equal, not what I read. It states we hold these truths to be self-evident. That all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights. That among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men.

O.G. GOAT: 14:13

Now, this word here, men, is what defines whether or not the Declaration of Independence is talking about when it says all men are created equal, are talking about men and women. So we can say which is probably stretching it that when we use the term men, you know, in generalize like that's like me saying guys, it could be referring to men and women. I could have a room of four guys and five women and I'd say, okay, guys, come on, quiet down. No one would be offended. I don't think so. Where guy, may you know, distinguish man from female, as opposed to gal, is acceptable in these days and times to say, come on, guys, let's settle down, it's acceptable. So it's kind of like men have the term men. When we think all men are created equal, have you know, stretching it can kind of sort of you know, apply to women too. However, when it reiterates governments are instituted among men. Now it's like it's being more Pacific and it's using the term men a second time, as opposed to men and women. So for this instance, my deduction is it's referring to men. However, you do have a woman vice president, and she's in power right now to be able to assist in making the change to this Declaration of Independence. Mark me if I'm wrong. I'm just saying now is your time, okay.

O.G. GOAT: 16:50

Moving on, when you talk about a woman and a woman's health role versus way or whatever, the right to have an abortion, all of these is women's rights. Okay, and this is the way I feel about it. At a certain point, if a woman is pregnant, let's say, she lays down with a guy, she fell in love with the guy, yada, yada, she gets pregnant, she goes for pregnancy tests, I guess two weeks later, or a week later, two weeks later, and she finds out that she's pregnant. At this point, is it classified as a human, as a baby? Well, let's just Google it. So we have some facts that we're going on. Let's type in, let's go to Google here for for our info, for a second here At what stage pregnancy? At what stage of pregnancy is a fetus considered a baby? How about that. Let's go with that. The fetus becomes neonate or newborn at birth.

O.G. GOAT: 18:45

It may not be common to hear a pregnant person speak about their embryo or fetus in those terms, but we can all choose to use the words we are most comfortable with. A better understanding of an embryotic or fetal development can expand our word choices. Okay, they have an image here. Very interesting An image. Sadly enough there's no timeline on the image, but it shows the development of the child. Okay, I was told that some people feel once it has a heartbeat it's considered a baby. Okay, some people say once it's fully developed it's considered a baby. This says here.

O.G. GOAT: 19:51

First, a note about how timing of these different stages of pregnancy are measured. Gastinal age is the age, usually in weeks, of the embryo or fetus. When someone says they are 15 weeks pregnant, for example, this is the gastinal age of the fetus, of their fetus. In a clinical setting, like when you see you a healthcare provider, gestational age is estimated from the first day of the menstrual period, because this is typically an easy date to pinpoint for the pregnant person. One, two, implantation occurs. Fourth week to beginning of the central nervous system forms. Fifth week, cardiac activity begins and what will become the heart. Here we go. Fifth week, the heart. So prior to the fifth week, no heart exists, okay, and the eyes and ears and upper limbs and arms begin to form, okay. So I'm beginning to think around a five week period. So, let's say prior to five weeks, the first week, or two or three weeks, if God forbid.

O.G. GOAT: 21:18

There was, let's say, some sort of accident, a car accident, and it was a reckless driver, yada, yada, yada. And a reckless driver is indicted on reckless driving charges and vehicular manslaughter, let's say because of his reckless driving. Now, is that? Does that mean he killed one person or two? Prior to five weeks? I think the law is going to say one person at this point. After the five weeks, the law is going to say two people. Which means, when you're dealing with Roe versus Wade, women are different from men. Okay, they have an additional responsibility that we know nothing about. Okay, they have a responsibility of bringing a human into this world and caring for that child. Now, this is my take on the situation.

O.G. GOAT: 22:42

If a woman is carrying a child At the stage that that child is considered a baby or the law would have considered the reckless driver to have committed two forms of reckless homicide. It would be at that same point, if a woman was to get an abortion, that she would actually be killing a baby Now, prior to that, if that point is at the five-week period prior to that, it's not, and she should be more than welcome to have an abortion Now, once it hits the five-week mark. Let's say there is something else that plays a part here. What type of pregnancy was it? Was it a warranted pregnancy or was it an unwarranted pregnancy? Now, if she chose to lay down with the guy and they was planning to get married, or boyfriend and girlfriend, or sleeping together, now I think you run into something, some sort of legal issue, and this is where the law should step in, because even though it's a woman's body, it's not just her body and the law is protecting the rights of the child because at this point it's formed or whatever the case might be. So this is why the law has to step in at this point, because it's not just a woman's decision. Now there's a child involved. So you just can't just go killing If that child, if that's classified as a child at five weeks, if if child was born and the woman just killed the child, she would go for murder or homicide.

O.G. GOAT: 24:56

It would be classified as homicide. So if it's a child that is a certain number of weeks inside the womb, then the same should apply, because the term child still exists. Simple. Now, if it's an unwarranted birth for whatever reason and something unspeakable was to happen to this woman and she finds out that she's pregnant, a police report should must be filed immediately, which will now give her the right to go to a hospital and have an abortion. That's just my take on it, guys. I mean, don't curse me out or whatever the case might be, but that's the way I feel it should be broken down. So, in terms of Roe vs Wade, that's how I feel it should be broken down.

O.G. GOAT: 25:59

Now it seems to me that in today's society, when they argue Roe vs Wade, they're arguing something slightly different than what was the original topic. Now it has evolved into a woman's right and a woman's body. Well, wait, hold on now. Let's not get away from what's actually happening here. I definitely don't want to take nothing away from the woman, because she's 100% right, it's her body.

O.G. GOAT: 26:35

But we're not just talking about a woman at this point. We're talking about a woman and the child. You know, the law must step in to protect the child's right. Right, you just can't just kill another human being Once it's classified as human being. You just can't kill it If it's an unwarranted birth. There should be a way that a woman, because she should not be allowed or forced to have a child that was unwarranted, or happened upon some unfortunate situation no way, come on, knock it off people. It's no way. So stop the nonsense, you know?

O.G. GOAT: 27:18

Come on now, moving right along, in terms of politics or anything else, a woman is equal to a man. In terms of job and everything else, she's equal to a man and she has the right. She has the right to vote. She has the right to hold positions. She has the right to make the same amount of money as a man if she can do the same job as a man. She has the right to become president of the United States. If she's elected as president or vice president or whatever the case may be, she has that right. There's no reason why she should not have the right.

O.G. GOAT: 27:58

She has the ability to think. She has two hands, two legs, just like men. The only thing that plays a slight difference is she's able to wear children, and that child now divides her decision making and her right into two parts. There's the right of the child and the right of the mother. There's the whether or not it was warranted or unwanted, and this is the way this issue go down. So that's my best definition for whether or not, or defining the term feminism. Women are created equal, with the exception of when it comes to having a child and what stage the child is in.

O.G. GOAT: 28:55

Okay, guys, moving right along, that's my interpretation of this definition of this topic. I did the best I could on it. I'm sure a lot of you can do a lot better than I have and some people are scared to speak on it, but if I am not as well versed in this topic as other people, the topic still weighs on my mind and I would love to hear more educated or other people's opinion on the exact same topic. This is your podhost OG and thanks for tuning in.