Supremely Full Of It Podcast

Bank Statements as Love Letters

March 05, 2024 N.I.M.E & DY3R
Bank Statements as Love Letters
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Supremely Full Of It Podcast
Bank Statements as Love Letters
Mar 05, 2024
N.I.M.E & DY3R

Ever wondered why some folks wear the badge of independence like it's the ultimate trophy in life? Join me, N.I.M.E, and the exuberant Jazz Hands as we strip down the idea that flying solo is the only way to fly, especially when the clouds of hardship roll in. We're not just waxing poetic about the solo journey; we're scrutinizing the balance beam of relationships and financial autonomy, questioning the societal cheer for individualism and whether your plus-one should automatically upgrade your life status.

"Cash or commitment?" That's the crossroads we're parked at, chatting about the expectations and realities of merging love with finances. We've all heard it before—money talks, but in the game of hearts, should it be shouting? We're dissecting the pressure to "date your wage" and whether men really don't give a dime about their partner's pocket depth. Our candid convo takes a turn with the story of a woman whose love language reads suspiciously like a bank statement, pushing us to ponder—how much should the size of a wallet weigh on matters of the heart?

As we wrap up this monetary and matrimonial rollercoaster, Jazz Hands and I explore the slippery slopes of marriage and money. Trust us, it's not just about the "I dos"; it's about the "What’s mine, what's yours, and what's ours?" We're ripping off the Band-Aid to expose the painful reality of financial secrets, the art of trust in a marriage, and when to draw the line between self-protection and shared responsibility. Plus, our "moatie" moment will have you reflecting on whether your individual identity is strong enough to hold its own or if it's time to seek some sage advice. So, tune in, turn up the volume, and let's get real about love in the ledger!

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Ever wondered why some folks wear the badge of independence like it's the ultimate trophy in life? Join me, N.I.M.E, and the exuberant Jazz Hands as we strip down the idea that flying solo is the only way to fly, especially when the clouds of hardship roll in. We're not just waxing poetic about the solo journey; we're scrutinizing the balance beam of relationships and financial autonomy, questioning the societal cheer for individualism and whether your plus-one should automatically upgrade your life status.

"Cash or commitment?" That's the crossroads we're parked at, chatting about the expectations and realities of merging love with finances. We've all heard it before—money talks, but in the game of hearts, should it be shouting? We're dissecting the pressure to "date your wage" and whether men really don't give a dime about their partner's pocket depth. Our candid convo takes a turn with the story of a woman whose love language reads suspiciously like a bank statement, pushing us to ponder—how much should the size of a wallet weigh on matters of the heart?

As we wrap up this monetary and matrimonial rollercoaster, Jazz Hands and I explore the slippery slopes of marriage and money. Trust us, it's not just about the "I dos"; it's about the "What’s mine, what's yours, and what's ours?" We're ripping off the Band-Aid to expose the painful reality of financial secrets, the art of trust in a marriage, and when to draw the line between self-protection and shared responsibility. Plus, our "moatie" moment will have you reflecting on whether your individual identity is strong enough to hold its own or if it's time to seek some sage advice. So, tune in, turn up the volume, and let's get real about love in the ledger!

Speaker 1:

Are you ready? You're ready, all right, you're ready, all right, all right, let's go. Great, okay, let's go Okay, all right, all right, okay, all right, okay, all right, great, all right, okay, okay. So what do you think I do?

Speaker 2:

I think it's a good idea. Great, great, all right, all right, I'm in this. It's a premium, the full of it, ha ha. Yeah, yeah. Welcome back to supremely Full of a podcast that's us. I'll be your boy nine and this be the homey jazz hands. Hey, bro, you know what you should have did when I said this be a boy jazz.

Speaker 3:

I was like what's your boy? Jazz hands, jazz hands. Yeah, all right, jazz hands.

Speaker 2:

Okay, we gonna talk about that, hey, man, hey, that's what it does. All right, Jazz hands, jazz hands.

Speaker 3:

What's going on?

Speaker 2:

man man, I'm good how you doing.

Speaker 3:

You seen those, uh, those uh new Donald Trump shoes.

Speaker 2:

No, what they look like.

Speaker 3:

They, uh, they. Well, they're called the never surrender. Is it called ones or just never surrender? I don't know. Anyway, we're gonna call the name is fire though, yeah.

Speaker 2:

The never surrender.

Speaker 3:

The never surrender ones.

Speaker 2:

I like the name.

Speaker 3:

They, they all go, they, they high tops. Okay, so I can see what them look like. I'm waiting for a Biden to drop. Biden got to come with something now some new balances or something I don't know man, I don't know Stay awake ones.

Speaker 2:

I don't know Stay awake ones. Well, uh, no, never mind, that's just good, never mind Anyway.

Speaker 3:

Um, I'm kind of just say the legal age to be president is 35. The best that America keeps coming up with is old men. Yes, on both sides. Think about that, america. Anyway, we'll be talking about the day man, um, you ever heard the expression I can do bad all by myself? Yes, all the time. Why, okay? My first question is why is it that we, as people, are so focused on doing everything ourselves?

Speaker 2:

Hmm, Focus on doing everything ourselves, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Good or bad, like just why.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I mean, in my opinion, man, today's society, man, we just selfish, you know what I'm saying we just want, want, want, want, want, want. We just try to get as much as we can get.

Speaker 3:

We ain't thinking about nobody else, okay, Wouldn't it be easier if it was two of us?

Speaker 2:

It should be. It should be.

Speaker 3:

Like you. Like you can achieve so much more faster, probably If you had the right person with you.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 3:

So when you hear, uh, I can do bad all by myself. What's? What's one of the things that come to your mind?

Speaker 2:

Um, most of the time when I hear from people this is it's because they're going through something with the person they were. They being treated wrong.

Speaker 3:

Okay, like in what way?

Speaker 2:

I mean it could be verbal abuse, you know what I'm saying. Physical abuse, it could be abusive, um, funds, it could be, um, maybe they just would have lied, or you know what I mean. So they feel like they could just if, if, if. If they life is going to be screwed up, it needs to be because they did it, not because somebody else is doing it.

Speaker 3:

Okay, um, all right, let me ask you this and this kind of going to contradict what I said earlier but if there is another person in your life, should you automatically be doing better? Yeah, you should. You should automatically be doing. Why is that?

Speaker 2:

Immediately. Why is that? Because there should be double, whatever it is that you got.

Speaker 3:

But what if they don't have what you have?

Speaker 2:

Then they still have some type of support in some way to help you do something, even if it's, you know, babysitting. So you ain't got to pay daycare, okay.

Speaker 3:

So you saying, even if you're not bringing it financially on that level, financially you can still contribute some way. Yeah, okay. Um, if say, you're doing good by yourself, right, but then another person comes into your life and you start doing worst in what you were was doing? What did you say to that?

Speaker 2:

That sound like somebody that's not on a team player for real. But what if? All right, because at some point you got to pull some weight? You know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

You don't want to be a burden on somebody else. Okay, then that would go. I say say the slogan date your wage. Okay, right, right. So the person that's doing good by themselves is good financially, but then the person that they end up dating isn't doing that well financially.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 3:

And there's. I guess they start bringing them down financially. Will you say that?

Speaker 2:

I say, the person that could be making things hard got to figure out how to make things better.

Speaker 1:

Okay, say that again.

Speaker 2:

You don't want to suck somebody dry Pause. Don't do that. You don't want to do that. You know what I mean, right, and like I said, at that moment you may need the help you know what I'm saying which is fine if that person can do it, but if you see them being brought down in a way that we're like, especially if you love them, you got to figure out how to get in the game, bro. You got to figure out how to contribute, okay.

Speaker 3:

If you can't contribute on their level that they need you to contribute on, is it best for you to admit that and then walk away If you can't get yourself to that standard?

Speaker 2:

That's deep. That's deep and I say that because maybe you can't reach the standard they want you to hit. Now I think it's not more so you anymore, as them Now to ball and their court, because now they got decisions to make. Like you know, do I love this person enough? Besides, what's going on? Because not everybody can hit your financial level, depending on base, you know, based on how you reach that level.

Speaker 3:

Okay, let's take it away from finances. What if it's like just emotional, emotional bonding? What if you can't get to that level that they need you to get to?

Speaker 2:

What does?

Speaker 3:

emotional bonding, look like I don't know, maybe. Well, I can't speak for women, but I know that they want like deep conversation. Okay, like okay. I say that because of this. One day I was at one of my stops or whatever, and this woman that I was cool with the supervisor, she was like men are so simple that it piss women off. And I was like what do you mean by that? She says men, y'all try to simplify everything. I really try to make things straight forward. Black and white period. Us women we try to dive deeper into situations even when there's nothing to dive deep into.

Speaker 2:

I would have fell asleep on that conversation.

Speaker 1:

That's rough.

Speaker 2:

That shouldn't even have sounded right coming out of her mouth.

Speaker 3:

I would just get my trailer loaded and unloaded. I had time, but what I said back to her was well, if men being simple pisses y'all off, y'all have a bigger issue because y'all should want somebody in your life to make things simple.

Speaker 2:

To make things easy so.

Speaker 3:

So back to my question If the person can't get to that level of, I guess, emotional connection, deep conversation-wise or whatever, should the person just be like you know what? I can't do this because it's not in me and I don't want to force a conversation. So I think it's best if you just well, if we go our separate ways.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, ain't nothing wrong with that conversation? Ain't nothing wrong with that man? People got to realize, man, we are two different creatures, bro. The way that we think and the way our biology is is completely different than yours. When you make a comment like women want to dive deeper even if there's nothing to look into, that should make you think and be like what am I really asking? What do I really want? That's scary to me, bro.

Speaker 3:

I mean, if they know that there's nothing to dive deep into, whatever she meant by that, are they really looking for something?

Speaker 2:

To me it just sounds like you want to argue, you just want to fight.

Speaker 3:

Or they just want to talk. Then we can talk. But you know how some people want to sound smarter than what they really are. We do it all the time here.

Speaker 2:

Because we are supremely full of it by God.

Speaker 3:

Yes, we are.

Speaker 2:

Nah, I don't know, man, I if something ain't working out. You know what I'm saying. It's up to you to make that choice, if you want to move on or not, man. But I just know that both sides they're not always going to get what they want from each other. It's not realistic.

Speaker 3:

Okay. When a person say that they can do better all by themselves, does that mean that they only date people who are on their level in every aspect of life?

Speaker 2:

That ain't possible either.

Speaker 3:

Why not?

Speaker 2:

It's not.

Speaker 3:

You can't tell me why?

Speaker 2:

I mean you. Okay, let's talk money. You can find somebody in the same tax bracket as you. Don't mean that they on your same level mentally or even capable of being a good steward of the money that they make.

Speaker 3:

Right, I was just about to say it. Just because they in the same tax bracket, you may be out of debt, they may be in debt. So just because you all in the same tax bracket don't mean that y'all are bringing home the same amount of money. So when people start saying I could do better all by myself, is that a way of people saying that I'm not settling?

Speaker 2:

That too. You can put that in there.

Speaker 3:

But everybody has their own definition of settling Right, mm-hmm and like. Is it like? Don't everybody settle to some degree? You should.

Speaker 2:

I know most men do. True Women will say that they're not settling. But if you find a man with the income that you want, then that implies that he settled on you.

Speaker 3:

Why is?

Speaker 2:

that Because most women don't want a man that makes what they make. They want a man that make more True, which implies that he's settling for something less.

Speaker 3:

Okay, let me just pay it. That was ever kid. Do men really care about a woman's income? Absolutely not. Okay, they don't. So how would they be settling?

Speaker 2:

Because generally, when men find women, they don't want women, that A man's primary function is to be a leader, to be a provider, to be a protector.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

And, in most cases, to be any of those things you were doing. Sad thing for somebody, that's how can I put it? They can't provide those things for you. Okay, they don't care. So most men are looking for women to help compliment their lifestyle in a way to where it'll make things easier for them.

Speaker 3:

My whole thing is if you're going to get in a relationship I think you've been going to say this before when you get into a relationship, you shouldn't be thinking what can this person do for me? Both of y'all should be thinking how can I make this person's life easier? So if you can do bad all by yourself, the person that's with you should make your life easier to some degree, just like you should make their life easier to some degree. One of y'all what is it called? Dancils in distress. I think when people say I can do bad all by myself, that's basically like somebody hitting on you, that you find ugly and you just go. You'll get away from me.

Speaker 2:

My thing is a lot of women a lot of times will think would we say sometime about finances? They think that we don't think that they should care about the money. I'm not saying that because you should you should care about his money. To some degree. Yes, you want to make sure, as a wife you know what I'm saying that he can provide for you. It's not a good idea to marry somebody that ain't working.

Speaker 3:

But when you say provide, does he have to provide everything? Or should he go into like say I can provide this much, I can provide that much, I can provide on this side, but on this side I can't provide because I'm not that guy?

Speaker 2:

Okay, so in that conversation that he just had with her, if she agrees to that, whatever happens after, that is her fault, because my thing is, whether she provided anything or not, if he married her, his primary role, bro, is to provide a roof over her head, for food in her mouth and clothes on her back.

Speaker 3:

But what if she put in on that though?

Speaker 2:

If she put in on it, that's fine too, but my thing is, her lifestyle should be his lifestyle.

Speaker 3:

Not his lifestyle, should be her lifestyle.

Speaker 2:

No, and if you want his lifestyle to be your lifestyle or the lifestyle you want, don't marry him. Then Don't waste his time. I literally watched something on social media, man, where the standard of things are just blown so far out of proportion. Man. I heard a woman say the dude that she needs to marry needs to make $100 million. Okay, he needs to have $100 million because she's already dated somebody that had $50 million.

Speaker 3:

Did she date him, or was they just messing around?

Speaker 2:

She said that that person proposed to her the $1.5 million. Then what was the? She said she turned it down because she was focusing on her career and her business, but now she needs to marry somebody that got $100 million.

Speaker 3:

Oh no, boo-boo, you done, but you done.

Speaker 2:

You sound like a liar. Why? Why? You turned down the proposal of a guy that had $50 million? Uh-huh, I don't believe you anymore?

Speaker 3:

Well, yeah, because I mean you're focused on your business and whatever. I'm pretty sure this guy could have helped you. I don't believe you, no more.

Speaker 2:

Lep. And why? And my thing is, why does his $50 million or $100 million matter to you? Because it's not yours. Well, most women these days marry with the intent of being able to take something from somebody.

Speaker 3:

This is coming from a married man people. Yes, A married man who has a lot.

Speaker 2:

Me and my wife didn't have much when we started, so that situation was a little different. But if you are putting a number on how much a man needs to make for you to marry them, you already going in with the intention that I'm taking something from you, at least half.

Speaker 1:

Is it really though?

Speaker 2:

Because in most cases. How many times have you seen I've seen this type of video too where you had a multimillionaire getting married? He gives his fiance a prenuptial agreement before they get married. The day before or the day after, she cried and complained why are you doing that? You don't love me. If it's not about the money, then sign the prenuptial agreement.

Speaker 3:

Okay, you saying all that, but do you remember back when we had a Keita?

Speaker 2:

on the show.

Speaker 3:

And I asked her like do you have a set number for a man that you would date?

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 3:

And she said no, but we both agreed that she should have a set number, so that kind of contradicted what you just said. No, no how? Because you said that a woman shouldn't pay attention to that.

Speaker 2:

No, I said they should. I said they should. They should care that the man can provide for them. But we've blown this situation out of proportion, though. How do you go from living comfortably just you two? You know he made 80,000 a year and now you saying you need a guy that's a multimillionaire. Why? Because the only thing you thinking about is somebody providing a certain type of lifestyle for you that you want. But it's not realistic though, so you can't tell me you in it for him If the first thing that come out of your mouth is he has to make this much money. Because now you don't care about his character anymore.

Speaker 2:

You don't care about how he's going to treat you. You don't care about his morals and values. You don't care about none of that. The only thing you care about is going shopping.

Speaker 3:

Okay. Let me ask you this then when, okay, you say I can do better all by myself, what if both people battle different types of mental health issues?

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

Should both people be together? Is that like a form of doing better all by myself, because both people have mental health issues that they're facing?

Speaker 2:

I guess it depends on what kind of mental health issues we talk about.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. They might be good for each other. Right, that's okay. It might take two extremely toxic folks away from people that don't need that mess.

Speaker 3:

Right, or two people who could talk to each other, whether to talk out their differences or whatever, whenever they have an episode or whatnot.

Speaker 2:

And they might know each other in that way, to where you know I know how to deal with his issue and he know how to deal with mine.

Speaker 3:

Okay, Say if two people house is in chaos basically. Both houses are dirty. They don't clean whatsoever.

Speaker 2:

You about to have a combined dirty house on.

Speaker 3:

But I mean they doing that by themselves. So you're saying if two people that have the exact same life, they're not going to look at each other, they're not going to look at each other and be like yo. If you live like this and not live like this, we can't bring this together. I disagree.

Speaker 2:

They will love each other to death. Ew, yeah, that's exactly what's going to happen. You overlooking my ignorance and my triflingness, and I'm going to overlook yours. Yeah, we about to make this work.

Speaker 3:

That's crazy, I don't. Maybe I just have more hope for people.

Speaker 2:

I don't think that will happen when you live like that. That's a mental disorder too. And it will hoard you or something like that when people say kind of a rule of thumb is, if you go to somebody's place and it's like that, it kind of lets you know what's going on in that person's mind. If it's chaos in a house, it's definitely chaos in their mind. Okay.

Speaker 3:

All right, I saw this video and I mean it kind of goes along with. I can do better all by myself. Basically, in the whole, I need to marry a man who makes so, and so this man said that marriage is not for rich or wealthy people, it is for broke people. Do you agree?

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 3:

No Explain.

Speaker 2:

Marriage is for all people, but yes, it's for broke people too. Now let me explain. A married situation will probably function better if you were poor. It's more beneficial when you're poor.

Speaker 3:

All right. When we say poor, what do we mean? Poor Like just dead broke All of it, or like having no money after you pay your bills? From poor to rich?

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

I think it's easier. Well, it should be easier for people who are less fortunate to get married. I think it's harder.

Speaker 2:

It's more beneficial.

Speaker 3:

Yes, I'm not going for that lane yet, I'm just saying it's easier because two less fortunate people can come together and like say, okay, the average income in America, the average household income? Is like 74,000 or something.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

And that's a two income house. Two income house, so say, one person is making 30,000. Another person is making 40,000. If they come together, both of them now have just a little bit more wiggle room than what they had before.

Speaker 3:

So that's why I say it should be easier for those two people to get married than it would be for a rich or wealthy person to get married, because if they get married, in the back of their mind they kind of going to be thinking okay, is this person with me for who I am or because of my money? The two less fortunate people they most likely are together. Well, survival's one of them. But because they genuinely love each other.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But marriage can benefit both. It could benefit the rich and but, like I said, you can create a slightly better life when you don't have much if you get married, if both of y'all contribute.

Speaker 3:

Can. In order to contribute, do you have to be on the same level? No Well, I'm to my find financially. Why not?

Speaker 2:

Because more is more when you ain't really doing well, or say you're doing okay, but more is more Say you make 50,000 and she come through with the 20. It's more.

Speaker 3:

That sound good, man, it's more.

Speaker 2:

Don't nobody think like that they don't because they're selfish. Like I said before, Society is selfish nowadays, bro.

Speaker 3:

It's just man like if the reason why I brought up like the whole household income thing is because for some reason, social media has everybody thinking that we all out here at like people literally be flexing on social media, but it has us normal folks thinking that, well, we should be doing that, I should be dating somebody who has that or who can do that. But the average household income to incomes is 74,000. So if you can do bad all by yourself, you may be doing bad now, but if you get with somebody who I want to say, willing to try to improve, then you can do I. You may be doing bad by yourself, but you doing I with somebody else. Sometimes I just I eat, I eat. Is I eat?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for sure Me down the shirt. You went from eating dollar menu McDonald's by yourself to getting your woman or getting you a man, getting married, income grow and there ain't nothing. You can go to Black Rock.

Speaker 3:

You jumped. That was a big jump. Amen, I done been there. That was a big jump. Black Rock, though, that was a big jump.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay, let's bring it down. Texas Roll House along horn. There you go.

Speaker 3:

But I like Black Rock. They got good drinks.

Speaker 2:

You go from eating the two cheeseburgers with the two fries to cooking your steak on a Black Rock.

Speaker 3:

I'm not a fan of that. Why? Because I'm cooking it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I feel you. I don't. It don't bother me.

Speaker 3:

The only thing I hate about it is you get grease everywhere, true, but I could have stayed at home and did that.

Speaker 2:

You get grease everywhere, bro. I mean, they will cook it for you, though. Did you know that? Yeah, that should be the only yeah they will cook it for you.

Speaker 3:

It shouldn't be an option for me to come to a restaurant.

Speaker 2:

Man, it's the experience, bro, and pay.

Speaker 3:

I experience it at my house.

Speaker 2:

It's the experience, man you get to make it and eat it the way you want it. You know what?

Speaker 3:

I'm saying you don't have to do that at home.

Speaker 2:

The only thing I hate, bro, is don't wear your good shoes in that joint.

Speaker 3:

Don't wear your good clothes period. You don't cook yourself. Yeah, bro.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it'd be greasy, bro Smoky, but you know All right man. Did I uh, I don't remember if I talked about this on the episode before you remind me. If I did, I won't Did I tell you about the lady that was hiding money from her husband? I'm not sure. If not, i'ma say it anyway. Okay, since we talked about marriage and finances and stuff, so we have a lady, she gets married. They had been married for a little while.

Speaker 3:

Her husband made good money. I know what you're talking about. I seen that video but I didn't talk about it. I don't think you did Okay.

Speaker 2:

Husband made good money. Husband gets hurt and she handled all the bills because he worked a lot so she paid everything. She was a stay at home wife. He gets injured so she goes to go to work for a little while. He gets healthier he goes back to work, she quits her job so she can go back to being a stay at home. What her mother told her was to always have a rainy day.

Speaker 2:

A rainy day, slash, get away, fund Right. So the husband comes to her and say, look, I can't work like I used to after my injury. Can we down size somewhere? She says no, I want my lifestyle to be my lifestyle. He continues to work. He picks up another job to maintain their lifestyle. Come to find out. He comes home and says, finally out the blue after so many years. He's like let me see the books. I got to figure out where we can cut back. So he's looking at the accounts, looking at the finances, and he sees a discrepancy. She had been moving $750 a month into her own account and when he got hurt she started putting like $250 in there. But when he went back back to $750. So you got a man struggling to take care of you, give you the lifestyle you won't pick up extra jobs and make sure you have what you want for you to be a stay at home wife. And she had saved up $47,000 of his money.

Speaker 2:

Yes, their money. But the money he worked for a little $47,000 when he was struggling. He gets mad, angry, leaves go, stays with his mother and guess what her mother says. Well, that's why I told you to put the fund together I'm trying for you to get out.

Speaker 3:

And the Bible told us everyone was sour.

Speaker 2:

So let's kind of break this down a little bit. I don't know how much money he made, but he had to make enough for her to hide $750 a month.

Speaker 3:

My thing is I'm very hands on with my money. I don't care who handles the finances, I'm still going to be hands on with my money. So how long did you know her G that you felt that comfortable?

Speaker 2:

I think they were married for like eight years or something like that.

Speaker 3:

No, that's still the honeymoon phase me.

Speaker 2:

But my thing is he trusted her. He trusted her, but she definitely couldn't be trusted.

Speaker 3:

She did not care that he would work his self to death to make sure she had everything she wanted Okay let me ask you this Is she wrong for having money on the side? Yes, why is she wrong for that?

Speaker 2:

Because that would have been $47,000 in their savings and the way that he moved and worked anyway to make sure she got whatever she needed to get, she would have got it anyway. And if you have to have a getaway fund, that means you're not invested in this relationship. Anyway, you already got an exit.

Speaker 3:

Okay, so this is my thinking. I'm going to agree. Well, I'm a believer that everybody should protect themselves to some degree, so I don't have a problem with her having money on the side, right, but she should have worked for that money. She should have took the money that he was making for them and put it in her own account.

Speaker 2:

But my question is this what are you protecting yourself from?

Speaker 3:

Okay, many things Like what if something happened to him to where he couldn't no longer work?

Speaker 2:

That's what the $47,000 should have been. That's what I'm saying. But that's what I'm saying. Why would she have to put money away for anything, especially dealing with the man that was making sure you got everything you wanted anyway? And with you being a stay at home wife. If you divorce this man, you get in half of everything anyway.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, See, and that's a problem, man. The laws are set up for women to walk away with something, so there's really no need, even though I'm for you protecting yourself, but it depends on how you go about it. But at the end of the day you're still going to leave with something. So I mean you could have something on the side, but it should come from the money that you make.

Speaker 3:

Well, my thing is this it should take away from the household to where this man's ass can be done you be downsized, and you don't want to downsize because that would mean you have to downsize your savings.

Speaker 2:

My thing is this this is the moral of the story for me, and I want women to hear me loud and clear. She put together a getaway fund, but it was her fault that she needed the getaway fund. You know, the reason why he left and stayed with his mother, and you have to leave is because you created a situation that made him want to leave.

Speaker 2:

The getaway fund was intended for you to be able to get away if he done something, but it was actually your fault that caused you to have to need it. Now here's my question Were you to be able to save $47,000 and he never sees it? I guarantee you you're going to run through that $47,000 pretty quick when you bounce.

Speaker 3:

In this economy, yeah, it's over with for you. But I mean, if you got a man that makes that much money to where you could put away that much amount of money, why would you fumble the bag?

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm saying. And you get $47,000. That was the wrong move. And let me ask this your mama was probably single.

Speaker 1:

I'm laughing at the fact that she's single. Why would?

Speaker 2:

your married mother tell you to do something like that, like this, affected you or something? Because it's insane.

Speaker 3:

Stanky booty.

Speaker 2:

It's insane that you had to use a getaway fund because it's your fault.

Speaker 3:

Okay, let me ask you this If say the man had that and the woman? Didn't would it be still viewed the same way?

Speaker 2:

If he was hiding money that she was making.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I would still view that the same way. Okay, but would society view it the same way?

Speaker 2:

Nope, okay, nope, nope, because a lot of women not going to see what she did was wrong.

Speaker 3:

Do you think that's a form of cheating?

Speaker 2:

No, it's a form of dishonesty. You can't be trusted. I don't care. It also shows me that you only care about you. You don't care about us. We're not one, like we supposed to be when we got married. That's messed up, man. Imagine how that man felt, though, like I'm literally breaking down doing all this trying to provide the stuff that you want.

Speaker 3:

You know, what made her worse is, when he asked the downsides, she said no.

Speaker 2:

But you know what he does. He goes get another job Get another job to keep it going for you? Ain't no way. And then that's how you do it, ain't no way. I hope you enjoy that $47,000. Because the next woman he marries is going to have a better life than you I don't know, she probably, you know she's going to leave with something in the divorce too.

Speaker 3:

Maybe Probably the house, okay, and he's still going to have to pay for the house.

Speaker 2:

Maybe, but you know what most men are Resilient. If they built it once, they can build it again. The problem is in most cases with some women. They don't know how to maintain it.

Speaker 3:

If you're going to protect yourself, make sure that both parties are on the same page. Facts, facts. You going to protect yourself. All right, cool Facts, I'm going to protect myself in any way I see fit. Be good, because you're protecting yourself. If he knew that she was saving that money, he would have probably been like all right, I'm going to protect myself somewhere. Sign this pre-nude, or something.

Speaker 2:

My thing is what they land on that joint, but my thing is Like the whole train just becomes it's just like now that's the soul train. My thing is, it just amazes me that you only think of you, Because if you were able to put up $47,000 of his money, how come he don't have half of that? At least, at the very least, why don't he have half of it?

Speaker 3:

You see, man, this is going to be a show, but I'm going to say it right now. This is my problem with marriage. Do you know how much you have to care about somebody, how much you have to love somebody, how much you have to actually trust this person, to give them part of your name? And then you taking on this person's name means you're carrying on their legacy to some degree. So why don't you take somebody's last name that you don't fully trust?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's wild man. Marriage is no longer an important thing anymore, Nope.

Speaker 3:

But, like I said, if you want to protect yourself, allow the other person to protect themselves, but however way they choose to protect themselves, you can be mad at it. So, at the end of the day, if you want to do bad, all by yourself go right ahead.

Speaker 2:

She about to do bad because obviously you got this $47,000. And she going to start working now. Yep, unless that mama of hers is going to let her move in.

Speaker 3:

So, and if you don't want to do bad all by yourself and you still on the ropes, make sure y'all have a conversation about protecting yourselves, and that's all I got to say.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, man.

Speaker 3:

I don't know what the beginning was. I have no idea what that sound was either.

Speaker 2:

No, what that was? That was like an electrical glitch or something it was.

Speaker 3:

Maybe it was a soul train coming back?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3:

You got a moatie. No, I don't Go ahead, brother, messi, christian, messi, christian. All right, my moatie is this Define who you are as an individual before someone defines you as a river. That's a dire originale.

Speaker 2:

That's what's up, man. My moatie, oh, ok. Ok, my moatie is if you don't have a plan, hit the email at supremelyfuloveitatgmailcom and holler at Jazz Hands.

Speaker 3:

All right, j that was. I don't know, I don't need to, I ain't know what to say either.

Speaker 2:

All right, yeah, man, I don't know man, mr Boy, jazz Hands Lifeless.

Speaker 3:

I'll be your boy now, supreme All right, we are. Jazz Hands.

Speaker 2:

Jazz Hands. Oh man, hey man, work this thing out together, man.

Speaker 3:

Did you guys know this? Nope, hey man, Don't get married bro, you steal $47,000 from me.

Speaker 2:

Stay in company, man.

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