As the sun sets on another Autism Awareness Month, I'm joined by two remarkable women, Veronica and Jennifer, whose stories of parenting autistic children bring both shadows and light into our studio. Their tales navigate more than just the labyrinth of the education system. They delve into personal struggles and the triumphs of raising children on the spectrum. Veronica, with her dual expertise as an educator and a mother, and Jennifer, embodying the resilience of a single parent, become beacons of hope, guiding us through their daily lives filled with advocacy, adaptation, and unconditional love for their extraordinary children.
It's a tapestry woven from moments of joy, threads of challenge, and the collaborative efforts of parents and specialized educators. Together, we craft a narrative that's not just about managing behavior but about cherishing and supporting our children in their fullness.
In the spirit of community and shared experience, our final thoughts turn to the broader landscape of autism education. We engage in a hopeful dialogue about the evolution of support and the dream that progress will mirror the strides made for other learning disabilities. To those who make it their life's work to understand and aid autistic students, our gratitude knows no bounds. We extend an invitation to you, our listeners, to join this community and amplify the chorus of voices advocating for change, awareness, and the celebration of every unique individual within the autism spectrum.
As the sun sets on another Autism Awareness Month, I'm joined by two remarkable women, Veronica and Jennifer, whose stories of parenting autistic children bring both shadows and light into our studio. Their tales navigate more than just the labyrinth of the education system. They delve into personal struggles and the triumphs of raising children on the spectrum. Veronica, with her dual expertise as an educator and a mother, and Jennifer, embodying the resilience of a single parent, become beacons of hope, guiding us through their daily lives filled with advocacy, adaptation, and unconditional love for their extraordinary children.
It's a tapestry woven from moments of joy, threads of challenge, and the collaborative efforts of parents and specialized educators. Together, we craft a narrative that's not just about managing behavior but about cherishing and supporting our children in their fullness.
In the spirit of community and shared experience, our final thoughts turn to the broader landscape of autism education. We engage in a hopeful dialogue about the evolution of support and the dream that progress will mirror the strides made for other learning disabilities. To those who make it their life's work to understand and aid autistic students, our gratitude knows no bounds. We extend an invitation to you, our listeners, to join this community and amplify the chorus of voices advocating for change, awareness, and the celebration of every unique individual within the autism spectrum.
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Speaker 1:
It's been such a crazy month already, Like I don't feel I have fully, fully rested, because last week I was in Phoenix, Arizona, at a conference the Book Publishing Academy Summit and while I was there I got to meet one of my colleagues who is on the spectrum of autism and she's written two children's book and I'm looking forward to interviewing her. But in honor of Autism Awareness Month, I am excited to have two of my guests that are coming on today that are going to talk a little bit about their journeys, what they've encountered and the things that they've had to face with their own children. And so welcome, Veronica and Jennifer. I'm glad you're with me today. How are y'all Good? Thanks for having us. Thank you, You're welcome. So let's start with Veronica. Veronica, introduce yourself and tell me a little bit about who you are what you do.
Speaker 2:
I'm Veronica Terry, and I actually am a third grade teacher and I've been teaching for 22 years, so I've always worked with kids. And then I have two children. I have one that's 13 and I have another son that's going to be 11 and he's autistic. I'm learning about this, this new way of life that we've, we're blessed to, to be a part of, and I'm learning just different things about the community, and so I'm glad to be here on your show, and Mariana is actually my cousin, so thank you for having me on.
Speaker 1:
You're welcome. You're welcome, Jennifer. Tell me a little bit about you.
Speaker 3:
I also have two boys, and one is almost 21 and my youngest is 10 and he has autism. Like she said, every day is a journey. It's a new way of life. Different phases in my son's life changes those circumstances on a daily basis and we, you know, just try to do the best we can by research, experience, being involved with the community, being involved with the school.
Speaker 1:
Well, welcome both of you. As I mentioned, I'm just, you know, I wanted to do this segment because, number one, it is April, the month of autism awareness, and also I just feel like there's just not enough out there yet really promoting families that are in this journey of autism Me being a grandmother of a grandbaby who is autistic, who's nonverbal at this point, and even as a grandma, I've had my own set of challenges, whenever my grandson comes to visit me and stuff, whenever my grandson comes to visit me and stuff. But I wanted to talk to you all about some of the challenges that you all have faced. And so, jennifer, I'll start with you, because I know that you're not only a working mom, but you're also a single parent, a single parent household, and, as a single parent navigating the education system for your child with autism, what unique challenges have you encountered or did you encounter it?
Speaker 3:
varies. For the most part, the district that we're in is very supportive. However, this year's been a struggle. It's been a challenge. I'm constantly needing to be my son's voice so that he has the proper accommodations needed. If I wasn't a voice, it concerns me that you know for other children. How are they accommodating other children? Some children will go to school and what's called mass, where they're just trying to get through the day and be as perfect as possible trying to get through the day and be as perfect as possible. Yet they're struggling greatly inside. That tends to be the biggest struggle I have right now with the school district. Some teachers don't really know what to look for. They are unaware, they're not trained to look for those type of things and then will perceive it as bad behavior or they just kind of ignore it. So I am very proactive with the school district and involving myself as much as possible and being at the school and being Jace's voice.
Speaker 1:
And Veronica for yourself, you are an educator. So what challenges have you faced being an educator and then having a child, with being on the spectrum and then having to deal and approach that situation. What has it been like for you, and has it been an eye opener even for you as an educator?
Speaker 2:
I remember when I had a student that was he was severely autistic, but I didn't know much about it and you know, thankfully, his parent was very, you know, very diligent and very much involved. So I really learned a lot from the parent and it made me very aware of what I needed to do in the classroom to accommodate him. Because you know, like Jennifer said, that you know we're not trained going into it. You know that's not like a course you take. You know, as you're getting your teaching degree and with so much inclusion in the classroom, we need to be, you know, in a partnership with the other. You know specialized education, you know that deals with the kids and that know the ABA. You know types of, you know strategies that go into, you know handling students with this who are on the spectrum, this who are on the spectrum.
Speaker 2:
So it was very interesting when my son was, you know, in the district and he wasn't getting his needs met and but I was very busy with you know teaching is very demanding and you're not only dealing with just those students but you're dealing with other needs of other kids and so I had to. You know I was kind of being pulled both ways and I know the educator side. And then I had to be the parent, the advocate for him. And so there were there were a little more, it was a little more uncomfortable meetings. You know that I attended because I kind of knew both sides of it and I knew when I had to step in and say no, you know, I know that these things can be met and you know so. They knew that in me as well, so I had to. But I eventually pulled him from the district because he was being switched around six times and no one could pinpoint how to help him. I mean everybody you know, I even went.
Speaker 2:
I mean, it's not like I was a lack of trying, but I'm like, I'm trying to make this work. I have to work, he has to be in school, but we're being called to come pick him up uh up, because he was having aggressive behaviors in the class. And you know I said what if I didn't have my mother to pick him up? Or you know I said this is not right. And so we eventually pulled him because, and where he's at, he's in a private school that deals with the behavior. They have the staffing, they have the properly trained staff to handle it and the correct environment for him, and he's doing so much better. But we also had to get in contact with a neurologist to put him on the proper medication as well. So you know he's doing well, but you know we're not just taking it lightly, because we know that things can change. He's growing his hormones, you know. Everything plays a part, you know, and so you can't be complacent, you have to, you know. Know that there's different phases of it.
Speaker 2:
It is hard to be on the educator side and then to also personally deal with your own child.
Speaker 1:
Wow, absolutely, and I can see that being a big challenge, because not only are you just, not only are you the parent, but also an educator, and it's like you're almost like fighting the situation as well. Right that with your son, you had to battle, like the differences of the schools and finding the right solution or the right school for your son. Is that correct?
Speaker 3:
Yes, this year has been a challenge because they changed the grade levels and put fourth grader into a new school that's considered middle school. Right, kids on the spectrum have a hard time with transition. It was a lot of new things, so I felt like I had to start all over with my battle of advocating for him, because new school, new committee they didn't know anything about my child and, like Veronica said, at certain ages they go through different phases where you may see them thriving in therapy and doing well and taking steps forward. You throw a wrench in their schedule or their hormones or whatever it could be. Then we take steps backwards and so you have to go back and fight again. I feel like I'm fighting, more so this year than I ever have, and I too thought of pulling in. But as a single parent working full time, I just I'm trying really hard to count on the school system to meet Chase's needs and be there.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, yeah, talk to me a little bit and either one of y'all can answer this question, or both. Actually, what was that like for both of you all? When was that moment that you all discovered, or that you realized, that there's something different about my child Like I don't know what it is, but I need to find out? And then, what was that experience like for both of you?
Speaker 2:
It's difficult because you know everybody has this expectation. Like you said, you know your child's going to be normal and you know you expect them to just do the regular things. You know the milestones's going to be normal and you know you expect them to just do this, the regular things. You know the milestones, the walking, the talking, the potty training. And my child was in potty training like he kept having accidents and did not wish to to go on the toilet and you know he still battles with that. You know he's gotten better in public. You know to go to the restroom but you know more it's at home where he's more comfortable in his environment.
Speaker 2:
You know, and he wasn't talking very well, I would go pick him up from daycare and he was in the three-year-old room and I could hear all these kids talking and playing and he was isolated and not really interacting, you know, verbally. And then we took him to the dentist and he just flipped out. You know we were just going to get a teeth cleaning and the dentist really looked at him and said is he on, is he diagnosed with autism? And I, and I just was shocked, you know, cause you don't want to accept that.
Speaker 2:
Um, so you're kind of like in denial in a way, and you know you have to do what's best for your child. Whatever you know you're, you can't go by your emotions. And so, um, that's when we took the steps to getting him evaluated and really took it seriously, like let's just, let's get him the help, and I felt like we waited a little too long because we had to come to terms with it. But you know, the sooner the better. Don't wait, because the younger they are to get the ABA therapy, the better.
Speaker 1:
And Jennifer, what about you? I mean, what was that experience? Like you know? When did you come to that realization?
Speaker 3:
I started to notice early on, when Jace was about two. I mean, I felt like when he was in the first year of his life I felt like something was just different, but I kept comparing his life. I felt like something was just different, but I kept comparing. Unfortunately, I would compare to what it was like with my older son and thought this is not. He cried a lot and looking back I know why now he had a lot of sensory issues, but at the age of two he was not really formulating words and he walked really, really early, which we later found out from the neurologist and behavioral specialist. He didn't like the tactile on his hand, so he didn't like crawling. He was constantly wanting to wash his hands. We couldn't go out public. He was constantly covering his ears.
Speaker 3:
I just I knew something was wrong in my just. I knew something was wrong In my eyes. I thought something was wrong. Now I don't feel like this is going to sound kind of strange, but I don't think anything is wrong with my son. I love him just the way he is, but I knew it pretty early and I started to be proactive and the doctors could tell too. So we waited, for it's a long wait, but so worth the wait If you can get a diagnosis early.
Speaker 3:
Like Veronica said, it opens up doors to speech therapy, occupational therapy, you know, whatever each child's different, whatever therapy that child may need, it opens up doors and, believe it or not, a lot of those things that the kiddos are dealing with can give them the right tools at a young age or try to help rewire some of the deficits in the brain. And then also the school. They have a program that you can put your child in and they'll do an evaluation as well. There are options. If you can't get into it medically, at least go to the schools. They have evaluations and specialists there as well. Yeah, I knew pretty early something was different and I wanted to be proactive and get him the help he needed. And honestly I needed the help too. I questioned my parenting a lot because I just didn't know what made his needs, because he couldn't express to me what was bothering him or why.
Speaker 1:
I know that that's a challenge, because I think you go through those different phases, right, like you're in a way, mourning right, because you're mourning the fact that you have a child that is going to be looked at differently and that's a challenge of its own and you go through those different emotional phases, like the sadness at first, and then you probably have the anger and then acceptance, and then let's work on this and moving forward. I mean, I can only imagine that. That's probably right.
Speaker 2:
that is true, yeah yeah, you do go through different little waves of emotions.
Speaker 3:
You know I feel like I'm in one of those waves right now. I want so much for jace to be included and he's just struggling so much right now with um being on the spectrum. They they call it a spectrum because there's so many other things that can that can affect the child. For my son, he has an additional OCD, severe OCD, anxiety, a little bit of ADHD, so it's presenting different struggles and I feel like I'm going through that wave all over again Like gosh. How did I miss it? How I should have helped him sooner. What can I do or what did I? You question yourself all the time. But I try to get over the sadness. I keep getting choked up because just talking about it out loud, I guess, is reminding me what I, what it, what it is to go through it. But the best thing you can do is be proactive and just move on and find the right solution at the time.
Speaker 1:
And I know that with you, you know you've got a really strong support system. Got a really strong support system. You've got, you know, your mom, you've got your husband and you've got family around you that are there to help support you. But feelings do you have, even though you have all this support. What feelings do you actually have sometimes?
Speaker 2:
Well, I mean, we have to kind of. You know, I never get a break, basically because I go to work and I'm dealing, I'm working with kids and and then I come home and I have, you know, I have to deal with what's going on, you know, for the evening. And what I find challenging is sometimes you feel stuck, I feel like I have to. Really, you know, it depends on his mood, how he some things like if we go to church. He's gotten better at it, but he can be difficult just getting out of the house, and you know, church is not. We give him breaks and I said if you could just, you know, wait 15 minutes and then you can have the phone and we take him to another part of the church, and so we're just, we have to kind of meet him halfway. And so we're just, we have to kind of meet them halfway.
Speaker 2:
And then just the planning of things, you know, because with my other son, you know he he's very involved with band and track and, and so I'm trying to be there for him and then also there for Liam, and you know my husband's a police officer, so it's it could be difficult and yeah, I'm just being pulled in many different directions and the sad thing is you kind of lose sense of yourself and you really you can't think about yourself all the time, and that's the sad part, because you should take care of yourself, because you have to be there for all this. So that's the thing I'm struggling with is just maybe you know, okay, I have to breathe. I can't be superwoman all the time and I'm trying to give myself grace and not be so hard on myself and just only control things that I can control. I can't control everything.
Speaker 1:
And for you, jen, and for you, it's even a lot more challenging because you're a single parent. Is there anyone that helps support you, that comes to your aid at times? How do you do that? How do you balance working, being a single mom and then, of course, trying to meet the needs for your child?
Speaker 3:
I ask myself how I do it. I feel like when I leave work I'm going to my second job and, like Veronica said, I don't know. You know it depends on how his day went at school and the circumstances of how challenging it's going to be when I get home. My older son is still living at home, so that helps. I do rely on him a lot, however. He works too, so I don't have. I feel pretty isolated. I don't have a lot of people that I can talk to or ask for help. It's tough.
Speaker 2:
It's a lonely it could be a lonely world, you feel. You know, and he doesn't have my son, doesn't have friends, you know he doesn't. You know, I have to really be careful who I have him around because they don't know, maybe, how to deal with certain things that he may say. You know, because my son says inappropriate things and he thinks that he's being funny and you know it's like no, they don't know you that way. You know you can't say that, and so it's people react to him differently and it's hard. You know you can't say that, and so it's people react to him differently and it's hard, you know.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, are there any like support groups or mom groups or any places that moms who are in this situation? Is there something like that for moms or for parents, that where you all as a community can come together and just be able to discuss how you're feeling and the struggles and then maybe kind of like share those stories together?
Speaker 3:
I personally haven't found any like a group, a local group. I try to join as many support groups online as I possibly can, just to constantly be involved, and you learn so much from what other families are going through that you can utilize in your own home. But I haven't found a local group and, to be honest, even if there was, I don't know when I would have time. That's the hard part and I can't really leave Jace for long. He gets anxiety.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, I feel the same way. There's no time I mean I'm exhausted, I can't imagine going some other place.
Speaker 2:
There are lots of resources. Like the Gulf Coast, they have lots of resources. I mean it's overwhelming how many resources they have, but it's like finding the time to get in contact. I mean that's a whole other ball. I mean you have to navigate through them, you have to find the right placement. They have to do their own evaluation. I mean, you know, at the beginning of the year, in November, right after Thanksgiving, we had Liam participate in the U of H Paralan campus. They have a, you know, severe clinic where they help, you know, they pinpoint a certain behavior and they try to give you data like, okay, we're going. Ok, we're going to try this, we're going to try this.
Speaker 2:
You know this tactic and it was pretty intense and I think I got sick from after that that week. It was just so because he, he, they wanted to see those aggressive behaviors come out and it just it's a, it's a stress. They were wonderful though. I mean they were wonderful though. I mean they were like the. I mean I had my hats off to them. They were so committed and they took all the hits and they showed you how to handle all that, but it took a toll on me. I, I mean it really did. I mean, it's it's it's pretty, it's pretty hectic. Yeah, it takes a, but you know I do want him to participate in that, but it's it's hard to decide when to do it.
Speaker 1:
You just want to keep the peace, you know I think both of y'all need to start a group, though, where the children can be involved together. Like I don't care at a park or something, but because I really do feel like there is that need to share, scream and yell or whatever is necessary, but to know that you're not alone, right, because I know that we can have family around and I know that I've like been out with them. But sometimes you need someone away. That's not a family member, that's someone that can really under truly understand what you, as a mother, is feeling and what you're going through and those emotions you know just having that. So I think that that is something that perhaps can come down, you know the pipeline of what to do next, because I think that's important.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, that's. I mean it's a good point because it doesn't. It really changes the dynamics of your family. I feel like you know they even recommend it, like we all do a family therapy. You know, because you know I know how it affects my oldest. He can be very impatient with it and he's, you know, he's 13 and I'm not expecting him to be an expert, but you know you do have to deal with their emotional you know, how they're dealing with it and he feels like it's not fair.
Speaker 2:
Why does he get away with it? And I? If I did that, you know I wouldn't be able to get away with it.
Speaker 3:
That's a very good point, veronica, because when my older son, who's 20, I mean there's an age gap. There's a 10 year age gap between my two, but when, when my oldest was younger, I had wished there was some kind of support group for siblings, because it definitely takes a toll on them as well. They don't get as much of your time as the other one, which requires a lot. It would be great if there was some kind of support system for siblings as well, because it does take a toll on them. I'm glad you brought that up.
Speaker 1:
Because it does take a toll on them. So I can truly see that there's really room for so much more growth out there in order to get everybody together and have that support, to be able to lean on one another. So I definitely see that that in the pipeline, you know, and, who knows, maybe between the two of you, you y'all might decide, hey, we're going to go ahead and start something you know here. So, jen, for you, you know, um, what advice for other single parents that are perhaps in a similar situation, as such as yourself, seeking support for their children with autism, um, what advice would you give them when it comes to the school system, and what things would you recommend they do?
Speaker 3:
I would definitely recommend staying involved as much as possible. If that means going to the school all the time, don't hesitate, don't be shy about it, because this is your child and they can't speak up for themselves. And that's where your job comes in to find the support for them. Find the right therapies, find the right doctors. If you don't like what one doctor is saying, find another, because it really makes a difference in finding the right support for your child, believe it or not, just the littlest things can make a huge difference in the children if you have the right tools, and I think in our case, occupational therapy has been a blessing in keeping the teachers aware. I constantly am trying to spread awareness and being in touch with the teachers as much as possible.
Speaker 1:
Absolutely and for you, veronica. What changes or improvements would you like to see in the education system to better support children with autism and their families?
Speaker 2:
You know, for my child, you know, I feel like sometimes what they have in place is not the best place for them and I know we want to include them in a regular setting, but it's, you know, I've seen so many kids who are in specialized classes. They go in the cafeteria and they're just like you, it's just, you know. And it breaks my heart because my son was like that, I would. You know, he was at our, my school, the last school he was at in the district before he went to private, and he had his headphones and he was just, you know, like so intense because of the, the noises.
Speaker 2:
And you know, and I know, parents don't want their kids to be excluded, but you know, hey, your child is suffering because they have something that you know it's they. You know, don't force them to be like this kid and you know they're not. You know you have to accept them for who they are and do what's best for them. And I feel like a lot of parents don't want to hear that. They want them to be normal. This is normal. Well, that's not their normal.
Speaker 2:
And you know, I feel like I wish the public schools could have a facility for those types of needs, you know, and when the child is ready, okay, bring them back to the school campus. But I really feel like I wish that Bunny was, you know, dedicated for that, because I feel like they need to have their own facility. They can't be around just. You know, just all the chaos, you know, and we, as a teacher, you don't have control over. You know who comes in your class, you know, and we rely on the other teachers that push in, you know, to be our voice as well and how to communicate better with those parents. But I feel like that's the struggle I've seen is, you know, we have some parents that just, they're not willing to accept it fully yet and hopefully one day they will. You know, and I mean from my experience, I feel like you know, if I, if I did what's best for him and we have better days now and he's happier.
Speaker 1:
So it almost reminds me of like back in the early 80s, late 70s. I can recall like my sister has held back and they felt like because she depended on me and so they felt that maybe if we she was held back, maybe that would make a difference. And then I just remember my sister being one year behind me and then they would put her back. Then it was called special education. So they put her in special education with, like everyone else, like it was all grouped together and they know, or they didn't have a diagnosis, they weren't equipped yet to identify what dyslexia was. They just clumped them together. They did clump them together and so sometimes I feel like when there's new things coming, so what that did for me was that helped me. Whenever my oldest son, I could identify right away that he had a form of dyslexia just by certain behavior, so I was able to learn that and I would learn how to advocate for that. And now the school systems have the resources and the way to work with a child that is dyslexic, right.
Speaker 1:
But I think that when new things come about, like autism, that's still something that is still in the works. They're still not sure how to educate. They don't know yet how to, like Veronica mentioned, separate them so that they could have their space, their learning space and tools and resources that are needed for them.
Speaker 1:
So, yeah, I think there's still a lot of work to be done, I think there's still a lot of things that need to come about, but I'm so grateful and thankful that there are women like such as yourselves. You know Veronica being an educator, you, jennifer, being that parent that's always involved I mean both of y'all, of course, involved, but in the sense that you, as a parent, are always trying to find a way to challenge the system. And then you've got Veronica here, who is in the system, who's also trying to find her way to challenge that system, and yet there's just still not enough yet.
Speaker 1:
So I just want to say thank you both so much for taking the time in speaking with me and again just bringing about those things that are needed still today, and I really do hope that more and more awareness, and I hope that, by way of this platform, that'll show that there's still a lot of work to be done, and I'm proud of both of you, ladies.
Speaker 1:
It's an honor for me to know both of you all and to know that y'all are fighting a hard fight. Y'all are fighting a fight right, but there's more of you all and to you know, know that y'all are fighting a hard fight, y'all are fighting a fight Right, and and but there's more of you out there, and so I do pray and hope that one day, uh, there is such, you know, a connection, a group or something that will further not only help the child but help you as well, because I think it's needed. I think something is needed for the parents also, because it's got to be hard. I can only imagine you know, I only have my grandson every now and then, but I see the struggles that my daughter's going through, so I can only imagine that much more the struggle that you two are facing. So, for anyone who's listening to today's episode, either one of you is there a way that if somebody another mom or someone wants to get connected to you, is there a way that they could connect to you, whether it be social media?
Speaker 2:
Yeah, I'm on Facebook, I'm under Veronica Moreno, terry, so if anybody would you know, needs and has a question or whatever. But, like, like I said, I'm learning too and everybody's situation is so different, it's so it's so unique. But definitely, you know, talk to your pediatrician and they can give you the resources. I always prefer a doctor's diagnosis. That way you have that and you don't have to rely on the schools. You know, because you have a doctor's diagnosis and you know the school can't, you know, kind of fudge their way into change anything, you have it.
Speaker 2:
You have a very good document, a medical document that you know you have in place the schools will only services or accommodations if the diagnosis affects their education.
Speaker 3:
So that does present a problem at times. I jace will do really well one year and they say, oh no, it's okay, even though I have a medical diagnosis. This year that has changed because it affects his education and his well-being at school. But veronica is very right definitely seek out help from the medical team, the physicians, and get that diagnosis. It helps. I'm, under Jennifer Trigg Mitchell, really grateful for you sharing your platform so that we can talk about things that should be talked about amongst other parents. So thank you so much.
Speaker 1:
Absolutely All right, ladies, all right, thank right ladies.
Speaker 2:
All right, thank you, mariana.
Speaker 1:
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