The battle against mediocrity in the workplace is a tough one because many professionals fail to recognize the signs until it’s too late. Its presence may go unnoticed but its impact can be career damaging, undermining professional and personal growth.
Shilpa Kulshrestha, known as the Game Changer Career Coach, teaches professionals how to break free from the cycle of mediocrity and reach their full potential. She joins me in this episode to share useful strategies and tips for “murdering mediocrity,” including her golden rule for nurturing relationships and driving career success.
We discuss the importance of self-awareness, challenges like imposter syndrome, and how professionals at every level of their career can adopt her strategies to advance their career and escape the mediocrity trap.
Tune in to learn how to rejuvenate your career and achieve your goals!
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The battle against mediocrity in the workplace is a tough one because many professionals fail to recognize the signs until it’s too late. Its presence may go unnoticed but its impact can be career damaging, undermining professional and personal growth.
Shilpa Kulshrestha, known as the Game Changer Career Coach, teaches professionals how to break free from the cycle of mediocrity and reach their full potential. She joins me in this episode to share useful strategies and tips for “murdering mediocrity,” including her golden rule for nurturing relationships and driving career success.
We discuss the importance of self-awareness, challenges like imposter syndrome, and how professionals at every level of their career can adopt her strategies to advance their career and escape the mediocrity trap.
Tune in to learn how to rejuvenate your career and achieve your goals!
TOPICS DISCUSSED IN THIS EPISODE:
This will be transformative for you and your career!
FOLLOW, SUBSCRIBE and LIKE the show so you don't miss a single episode - https://pod.link/shedthecorporatebitch and https://www.youtube.com/@ShedtheCorpBitchTV
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Have you ever felt like you're working your butt off but no one's recognizing it, and you feel invisible, even in small groups? Have you struggled to gain a foot in the door while others are just knocking it down? Has it caused you to find yourself on a durable wheel, spinning in circles, of doing the same thing over and over again and not optimizing your full potential? Well, our guest, shilpa Koshresh, or better known as the game-changing career coach, knows all about it and shares with us how important it is for you to believe in yourself and get out of the mundane, how to prioritize key relationships and change things so you are seen, heard and recognized for your contribution, value and worth. But it requires you to murder mediocrity. So stay with us.
Speaker 1:Welcome, welcome, welcome to Shedding the Corporate Bitch, the podcast that transforms female corporate executives into powerhouse leaders by showing them how to shed the challenges and overwhelm, along with any fear, insecurity, self-doubt and negativity holding them back. I'm your host, bernadette Bowes, of Ball of Fire Coaching, bringing you powerhouse discussions each week to share tips, advice and sometimes tough love. So you create the riches in your work and life you deserve. So you create the riches in your work and life you deserve, sheba, how are you Welcome? Welcome.
Speaker 2:I'm very well. Thank you so much, Bernadette, for the invite.
Speaker 1:You're very welcome. I love this idea of murdering mediocrity, so we're going to get into all of that because I think it's a critical subject that our viewers and listeners will want to learn about. But before we do that, I'd love to get our community and myself to learn more about you, the woman, as opposed to just the business, because we'll talk about that. But, for instance, I think you're far, far, far away from me in the States, so tell us a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. I'm oceans apart from you. I am based out of Sydney, Australia, and I've been here for the last 15 years. Originally, I come from India, very colorful India, and I'm so proud of that.
Speaker 1:Nice, very nice. And what made?
Speaker 2:you move to Australia. What made me move was the footsteps of my husband. As it happens with most women, like you know, you give up your already established career because your husband gets an opportunity. And he got a wonderful opportunity to start a company's business, a cognizance business, in Australia and it was phenomenal. And then we thought it's great, australia is luring us, let's go, and I think it was the best decision that we could have ever made.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's fabulous. But I do have to say not all women have to get up and move and follow their husband, because if they have a better job and a better opportunity for the family, then there needs to be some compromise, right.
Speaker 2:Absolutely not at all. And this is where the personal and professional conflict comes. For us women, the reason I moved was right in the beginning of our marriage, me and my husband had created this, you know, a grounding rule that we'll always be together Either he will leave whatever he's doing to be with me, or I will leave. But we'll never stay apart and it came out of it. There's no regret. Yes, there were challenges. I wouldn't deny that. I would be lying if I said but yes, it was.
Speaker 1:What a great rule or foundation of your relationship to have. That's fabulous, fabulous. Being single myself, yes, that's wonderful. Now let's work our way into the whole idea of mediocrity. How do you view it and what are you seeing as the challenges with professionals when it comes to them being, or maybe performing in a very mediocre way, right, so?
Speaker 2:what I mean by mediocrity, bernadette, is we are working below our potential, we become part of the average game. And it is not that we are average, we are mediocre. It has nothing to do with a person, but all of us. We start with this fire in the belly, with these dreams. We join the corporate world and we have dreams to go to the top. We hear about this glass ceiling. We want to break it and as we go through the journey of life because a lot of things come in and you're single.
Speaker 2:So my life isn't as simple as you. It gets complicated, especially when marriage comes into picture, when you have kids, when you have multiple priorities, when you are moving cities, countries, and in this process, somewhere it is possible that you become prey to the average game, you become prey to mediocrity, and that just means that you pick up a rhythm where you're not at your best. You know it is a rhythm where you are probably just somehow sustaining, you're delivering whatever is expected out of you, but you have forgotten to go above and beyond. And it does show you, in terms of the results, that you're getting the reward, the recognition, the money that you are making, the designation. You know it, but you keep brushing the feeling under the carpet because somehow things are going on and that going on, attachment to that, keeps you in that mediocre zone to that keeps you in that mediocre zone, right?
Speaker 1:Well, I've been there feeling as if I'm just on this durable wheel of doing the same things over and over and over again and I know there's stuff out there outside that durable wheel and yet I just felt more comfortable with this mundane. With this mundane, what you're saying is mediocre type of pace to my life, and this is going back like 13, 14 years, and it was quite detrimental in all aspects of my life, not even just professionally but personally. So let's break mediocrity down, though. So you're not saying individuals are lazy or they're not trying or they're not working hard, or what would it look like in someone?
Speaker 2:What it would look like is being caught up in a hamster wheel. You know that's what it is Like. It's going on and on every day. You get up, you get ready and you go to your workplace. You, you're working hard, you're sincere, you're dedicated, you do whatever is given to you, but somewhere, you know you don't do more the more, which will take us to the next. You know level and sometimes you jump a little bit, you get the next level.
Speaker 2:But that mediocre tone is going on right and I mean I really want to make sure that it is not a dent in your sincerity at all. It's not just that you've become comfortable with a certain pace and it is not your best pace. You can do so much more than that. So if I go back to my life, you know, because of circumstances, like I did really well in my education, I've got lots of degrees and that's where I thought yes, I'm set for the world. Enter the corporate workplace.
Speaker 2:And I did really well to start with, got a notice, came to be known as somebody who had a Midas touch, got back-to-back outstanding ratings twice, was picked up on the spot for interviews to start the very next day. It doesn't happen. You know processes, there are systems twice was picked up, but then finally I was handpicked to be at a place where I had to rub shoulders with people who are four levels above me. You know, cxo minus one stakeholders and that was Bernadette was where my downfall started. So that's why I'm saying it's nothing to do with an individual. It is sometimes about the situation. Circumstances.
Speaker 2:I got caught up in a difficult place where there was politics. I had not seen that level of politics ever before. I had not seen people fighting. You know, like I'd never seen that before at that level. I was, you know, I was in a pretty safe place before that. I had managers who love to shine and somewhere in all this I got lost. I just didn't know how to deal with it. I kept saying politics is not my cup of tea. I didn't realize it was not about politics. It was my own capability to navigate my workplace. It was my responsibility and I just gave in to the circumstance. And for five years I was deeply wrapped up in this mediocrity wave. I was going on and on but not going anywhere.
Speaker 1:How did you find because I'm sure there's many of our listeners and viewers who can find a situation in their background where that occurred to them? You know it may not have been with the four levels above them, but there was something that caused them to shut down. But what did you do? Or how did you recognize that it wasn't the excuse you were using, which is I don't like politics, I don't want to get caught up in the politics, but it was more internal, about your own confidence, your own self-awareness. How did you finally say oh wait a minute, I now know what's causing it and I have to get out of it.
Speaker 2:I wish there was a moment like that, but there wasn't. I kept keeping the feeling aside. So I remember every day when I was sitting in the boardroom I felt like an imposter. I felt I'm the least learned of these people. I felt that, you know, one day this all will finish and these guys have no idea about that. I am clueless at this point sitting in the meeting about what I have to do. So I treated myself as somebody who was the least, and I treated like this for years.
Speaker 2:So I got caught up in that mind frame and I just didn't know what was happening. I didn't even know the word mediocre. It was five years back. My company said so this imposter syndrome, mediocrity it can go on till the date of retirement. But I was lucky that my company came and said Shilpa, enough of your game, we don't need you any longer. And that passed the signal to me that I have fallen down from an outstanding performer in the corporate, somebody that people looked up to, somebody who was handpicked for such amazing things. Many times in life I've fallen down to my deepest, darkest levels. I left the corporate workplace and it happened that way for me, and then I started learning from the best rates. Then I started working with my coaches to figure out what happened to me. How did I get so much wrapped into mediocrity that I didn't even see, except the feeling that I'm not at my best? That feeling was there consistently in those five years. I wouldn't say it wasn't there, but it wasn't to that extent that I saw all this coming.
Speaker 1:Right, it just came. The feeling was already there. So the feeling was already there. So the feeling was already there. What prevented you from acknowledging the feeling and kind of like doing something about it then, versus it perpetuating?
Speaker 2:So feeling was there where I felt a small. I felt that I wasn't contributing significantly enough. But I think what came in my way was my ego. I'd seen myself as somebody whom not only my workplace, the whole city that I come from, the town that I come from, they looked up to me and I was caught up in that illusion of Shilpa that I was, and my ego couldn't let me acknowledge the fact that I need to do something different. So that's where I was caught up and I'm so happy that I got that jolt where, yes, that was a very difficult moment, but somebody shook me up and said you know what? Nobody needs you. You are in a place where you are probably become worthless, and that is where I woke up, right.
Speaker 1:Okay. So recognizing well, I also want to ask you about this but recognizing that you're it took that big, you know that big shift, that big, you know we don't need you anymore. But what could people do, what could our listeners and viewers do proactively to really kind of understand whether or not they're performing at their best and mentally, emotionally, spiritually, all of it? What could they be doing to where they don't get to the point? Because your story is my story and so I wouldn't want anybody to get to my point either. So what would you suggest? Someone?
Speaker 2:do Absolutely. And this is the mission I'm on, like murdering mediocrity Recognize it before it reaches that level. So if you are sitting there feeling that I'm not working up to my potential and potential is a word which is thrown around sometimes, we just don't understand what it means but I'm not feeling good, I'm not feeling tall as I enter my workplace, I'm not feeling that I have got that level of voice that I should have when I am sitting in the meeting rooms, when I don't see the respect in the eyes of the people around, the same respect that I was seeing and I'm somebody who goes a lot by intuition, so I can see in the eyes. I'm sure everybody can.
Speaker 2:If you look so in the other people's eyes and also in the mirror. This is something which I honestly believe in Our eyes. Don't lie. So I would say, every single day, get up and look in the mirror and ask yourself am I at my best? You'll get the answer, whether it is mediocrity above mediocrity below mediocrity, outlier, whatever is your level, the mirror will tell you your eyes will tell you.
Speaker 1:I love that. Okay, because I'm very visual. So now I'm picturing myself in the mirror, right? Is that? Because your eyes don't lie in such a way that, if it's a struggle to say that and believe it, your eyes are going to be probably neutral, if not like scowling. But if it's true and you do believe in yourself and you do have confidence, then you're lighting up. Is that what you're meaning to?
Speaker 2:Absolutely, you got it. You see the shine in those eyes. If I look back, my eyes had lost that shine. Just, I didn't see. I was going by my face, by the clothes that I was wearing, but I never looked in my eyes. My eyes would have told me that. You know it's getting lackluster. It's not good. You're not feeling proud of yourself. So if you, if any of our viewers is hearing this, do this little test and you will know. You will know your eyes are your own. They, they are with you. They will tell you the truth.
Speaker 1:I love that, I absolutely. Oh, that is sweet, okay, so where do other people come into play? So you mentioned very quickly, you said, something about my coaches. So where do other people in someone's sphere of influence you know, bosses, peers, people that mentors, coaches where should individuals and professionals really be looking in order to find those people that might help them recognize that, for instance, their eyes are not telling a very happy, joyful story?
Speaker 2:happy, joyful story. Right. I believe it is our responsibility as an individual to find a sounding board, and sometimes it can take the shape of mentors. But the problem with mentors is that they've got their own day work to do, like they're not dedicated to you. They're guiding you, they want you to do well, they're coming from the right place of heart, but they are not dedicated to you, your job. It's your responsibility to find a coach and do some coaching. Every now and then I would say it's not one time done and dusted. I practice what I preach. I still have my coaches and I coach people.
Speaker 2:So you find anybody that you align with, somebody you feel that you have got a cultural alignment, who knows the pain that you're coming from, who has been through that kind of a situation, anybody that you align with and take that person as a coach and every few months, work on yourself and obviously, the space, the bosses, your peers they all come into place and for that I would just say create a shared vision with everyone that you're working with, whether it is your somebody reporting to you, whether it is your peer peers, or whether it is your bosses, bosses, bosses, four levels up.
Speaker 2:Create shared vision, because when you create a shared vision, then you have somebody else's feet in that vision and it is great because you know with every person you are moving forward. I had no clue at that point, but now this is what I suggest to people. It is not about blaming that my boss is not supporting, or there's politics. Just go head as the king or queen of your territory. You need to know how to navigate it. You need to know there's no shortcut to it. It is everybody's cup of tea and you can be as simple as you are, but you need to do that, and shared vision is an amazing way to get there.
Speaker 1:Okay, so let's break that down, because some of our viewers and listeners may not be familiar with a shared vision of their own versus the vision of the company. So help us understand and break that down as far as what is it, whose vision is it, and then how do they go about kind of distributing it?
Speaker 2:Yes, absolutely. So. Let's keep it apart from the vision of the company. A lot of people are on that they're doing an amazing job. Your company is doing amazing.
Speaker 2:Now, every single entity that you interact with in the workplace, you're doing something with them. Either it is a project that you're working on, it is a program, it is a deal Based on that. You create a shared vision and it changes with time, right? Whatever piece of work you're working with, just create a vision and then work together on that. Most of the time, we don't go proactive in creating that vision. We're just responding to whatever is needed out of it.
Speaker 2:But when you are part of a vision where two people want to get to, you'll do everything to make it possible and you have the other person with you, right? So it is about creating shared vision at various levels and everybody, including a clerk, including a director, including a vice president you know, whatever your designation is, whatever area it is, it is possible to have shared vision created at different levels, which is nothing but where you two are trying to get to. You can create shared vision in your marriage. You can create shared vision with your children. So, if that simplifies it, it is what you want to do with that intention. Where do you want to get to?
Speaker 1:Okay. So I want to paint it visually for myself. So if I wanted to create a shared vision with you, we're working together on a project and we both want to be successful in this project. Are we sitting down and are we kind of defining okay, what is it, shilpa, you want? This is what I want to accomplish. This is where I think we both can work together, where we can work separately, what challenges there might be, and here are how we're going to measure whether we're being successful. Is that the vision you're talking about?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I'll simply say okay, bernadette, I loved coming on your podcast, let's catch up for coffee. Let's say we stayed in the same city. Or let's say on phone, so let's catch up separately.
Speaker 2:And when we catch up, I say Bernadette, look, I really love the kind of sincerity that you show, the strengths that you have, and I just want to let you know that I'm here to feed into your success. I'm here to feed into your success because I love the mission that you're living, I love where you're coming from and I've seen how you operate. So tell me what is it that you're wanting to get to? Whatever I can do from my side, I would love to love to help or put my whatever two cents into that. So you will talk to me, bernadette, about this is where I'm trying to get to and I say, okay, that's a great mission, let us do something, let us invite these people. You know, because you have got the same story as mine.
Speaker 2:We've gone through the same pain. So let us build on that pain and let us break it into smaller, one topic at a time imposter syndrome, then mediocrity, then something else. You know how to bring that work-life balance and all those things. Let's break it into different topics and let's invite the experts on that and let's create a show where one topic, we go into detail, we go into cases and we present it to our viewers you know, to your viewers so that they have 100%, whatever is their pinpoint, they get a deep dive into it and they know how to come out of it after they watch your episode. So in this case, bernadette, I am seeing where you're coming from and I am bringing my experience and my knowledge to create something amazing for you Nice, nice, nice, and there's some win-win for you as well in it as well, right.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. As I said, I feed into your success. It automatically means that success comes back to me, right? So you give and you get more than what you give. Always it is the case.
Speaker 1:Right, I love that. Oh, you are just full of great stuff, Shilpa. Oh, we're not done yet, All right, so how does one really murder mediocrity? What could they really do? And I love your whole platform around creating a powerful euphoric career. You know that's more than just saying a great career, I mean euphoric career. What are those things you help others to do to murder mediocrity?
Speaker 2:What do I help them do is about a deep dive within themselves, the same deep dive that I did in 2018, because that just woke me up, that told me what my strengths are. So I take them through a deep dive where they understand why is it that they are not able to get that promotion, why is it that they are not able to attract a new job? Why is it that they do not have great professional relationships at the workplace? Why is it that they have lost their voice over the ears? So that deep dive enables them to understand what is coming in the way. What are those patterns that they have become used to, that has become their habit? What is their belief system? What are the experiences that they have? What are the baggages that they're carrying from the past which they are still caught up in, and it is impacting the future. So I go through all that deep dive and at the end of it, people know that they're standing, they're unleashed, free from all the burden that they have been carrying, and when they reach that state, and then it is about inviting the new things. Okay, what got us here is not going to get us there, so we have got rid of whatever was extra, whatever we had picked up during the journey, and let's now invite, based on where we want to go, based on our vision. What is it that we need? So then, helping them embrace those new things and I feel relationships go a long way in that whole.
Speaker 2:You know, adopting the new pieces, because beyond a certain stage in the corporate, it is not about how well you do, you're expected to do. Well, that's the minimum, that's a basic expectation. It is about how are your relationships with the people? Who is on your side? How many sponsors do you have? Do you have people who will sit behind the closed room and speak for you in that chair where you don't have access to? So it is about all those things inviting and, at the end of it, it is about actually giving a meaning to the world, unstoppable in their life, because it's not a cost win. As I said, you can jump and that, but are you carrying the right person to actually live that level? It's about being a person who will, because life will throw surprises, corporates throw surprises. It is becoming somebody who will rock it no matter what, who will deal powerfully with situations, who will become a black swan, because you cannot really predict what situation will come. But whatever it is, you have everything within you to be successful.
Speaker 1:Awesome, but I do want to break into relationships. So I heard but I don't want to put the labels on it that I use but I heard various things, but who are? If everyone got off this program right now and said, okay, I'm going to make a goal to go after these type of relationships with this type of person, what are those core relationships that they should be going after? Absolutely?
Speaker 2:I love the question. So there are a few levels that I feel that it's a must. It's a must. So number one is your relationship with your eyes, with yourself. That's the first relationship. If your relationship with yourself is not good, you'll get into self-doubt, lack of courage. You know all those fears, anxiety, stress and all. So first is your relationship with those eyes. Second is relationship at home. You know, whether it's your spouse, whether it's your children, whether it's parents, siblings, whatever, get that sorted, because everything that you'll build in the external world is based on this foundation. If this foundation is shaky, you know everything will get shaky. So build it rock solid, because then the external world comes in, then comes your bosses, then comes your peers, then comes the people who report to you, so all the people in your workplace even cross teams and all that. It is about those relationships, how good you are. Do only the people in your team know you or you're known, and you're known for the right reasons. Right, so it is. It is about the work.
Speaker 1:That's great. You're known for the right reasons.
Speaker 2:For the right reasons, then it's about the external world, which is about the community, which is about the world at large. So your life shouldn't be confined to just your company, which is a mistake a lot of us do. We are doing well in the company and we feel that it's good. It's not good, it's good enough. And you do not want to live your life as good enough? So go beyond Lever enough. And you do not want to live your life as good enough, so go beyond. Leverage platforms like linkedin, whatever you choose I love linkedin, so it's like it's a first name that comes on my mind but leverage those platforms. They are free. Share your thoughts, become a thought leader. You don't need to be at a particular rank or a designation to share things there, but add your experiences, add value to your audience and become visible. Create a brand recall in a way that anytime that person thinks about a particular area, your name comes to them. You know if it is your area. So it is about these different levels of relationship.
Speaker 1:Yep, well, I want to touch on that LinkedIn piece because, real quickly, when I left, I was fired from corporate and I had this 20, 25 year career. Linkedin was probably around for a good six or seven years by the time I left and yet when I left, I went out to LinkedIn so I can leverage all of my relationships from 25 years and I had like 50 connections to people, whereas I should have had like at least from very influential people that I had worked with over the years. I should have had at least 500 that I could literally tap into and they would be these relationships you're talking about. So I love your tip around making sure that you're building relationships and leveraging things like LinkedIn. Now, in the workplace, you mentioned peers, you mentioned the bosses and then the senior managers, but you did start speaking to what I call sponsors and advocates people that will go into a room and advocate for you. So, of those people within the workplace, are those roles as well of relationships, that you suggest that individuals start building?
Speaker 2:Absolutely so. They come in that category of the workplace, people in the workplace. So when I say it is not limited to your team, when? So? I'll tell you a golden rule which applies to everybody in the workplace and even beyond. It is about coffee catch-ups, such a simple thing, and I suggest, no matter how busy you are, pick up a day. I love Thursdays, because Fridays people are not in a mood to talk, they are preparing for the weekend. But Thursdays, pick up Back to back, have four coffee catch-ups and make this as your prayer for the week. You're meeting somebody new. Four back to back coffee catch-ups, and there's no agenda. You're not there to.
Speaker 2:When we say the word leverage, leverage it is about we are taking something from. No, you're not taking anything right, it is just, you're just talking and you can literally say oh, I've seen you on my floor number of times and I really I've heard a few conversations, I really love the way you carry yourself and you seem like an interesting person. I thought I'll go and I'll you, you know, know more about your work, and maybe you know because we sit on the same floor, so you can say to people that were not part of your team, you can even say to leaders that you admire and I have done it Like. This is something which I did to a very small extent and leaders did respond. They did come to those coffee catchers. It is our own doubt whether this person will respond. How will they say? What if they say no? Be ready for no's, because we grow in those moments of no's, absolutely Coffee catchers is the mantra.
Speaker 1:I love that. I absolutely love that. And you're right. I mean, who cares? No's a two-letter word. Who cares? Move on, somebody will say yes. And at the same time, what I also learned, from a sales perspective too, is no doesn't mean no. It just means this isn't a good time. Yes, yes, I'll throw that out there too. This has been great. Do you have one last tip or piece of advice for our viewers and listeners?
Speaker 2:One last piece of advice. Look what I would say it is not about. Usually, when we are working, we make it about what we do between nine to five, but it is not about that time. It is what you do between five to nine is what takes your career to the next level. So focus on that. Focus on literally, you know, get into an observer mode to see what do you do. Do you waste all the time after you have done your day job, or are you focusing on creating the future that is in your mind? So five to nine is the golden time.
Speaker 1:Damn Love that Sheepa. Love, love, love that. I've never really thought about it that way, but that is absolutely spot on. Thank you so much. This has been just. We could have talked forever. This has been a wealth of information. I so appreciate you giving us your time.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much and I'm really honored that you invited me, and I hope this episode is useful for your audience.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. It is no doubt, no doubt, no doubt about that. Thank you so much. Thank you, I absolutely loved this conversation with Shilpa Shilpa Kushash of Centrelate.
Speaker 1:This conversation with Shilpa Shilpa Kushash of Centrelate All around how you need to murder the mediocrity that might be just holding you back, causing great frustration and making you really kind of dislike getting up every day and going into work. And she brought up such powerful not only her own personal stories, but tips and strategies and experiences her clients even have had and how she's helped them overcome them. So I absolutely enjoyed this. I wonder what you took away from it yourself and we would love to hear kind of what you were able to take from it and or any questions that you might have for Shilpa or myself.
Speaker 1:So go to LinkedIn and be sure to follow me at Bernadette Bowes and leave us a comment or a question. Shoot me a DM and I'd be honored to be able to support you and help you and respond to that or get it to Shilpa so she can follow up with you and then, if you have any questions or you have challenges with yourself or a team member or your team when it comes to really murdering mediocrity or more so then, feel free to book a call with me and let's talk about it. Go to coachmebernadettecom. Forward slash discovery call. You are not alone. We are here together, and we're here to make you a powerhouse leader. So I'm honored that you were with us this week, and I look forward to having you for another episode. Take care everyone. Bye.