Welcome to Scandinavian crimes. My name is Devante and say hello to my lovely co-host Delila. Hi And on this podcast we will cover famous Scandinavian criminals who made their mark throughout Scandinavian history so today we're gonna talk about a
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Absolutely wild case and this person's name is Jonsson Daniel Drabbad Formerly known as Jimmy Daniel Isakins and later renamed Isakin Jonsson. Jonsson is a Swedish man who committed a gruesome murder in Skara, Sweden in November 2010 at the age of 32 Jonsson decapitated his girlfriend Hela Christiansen and consumed parts of her body as A result he was convicted of murder and received institutional psychiatric care(...) During this time in the psychiatric hospital Jonsson has been involved in various Controversies and have garnered attention both in Sweden as well as internationally(...) Also on December 2011 he became engaged to Michelle Gustavsson Also known as a vampire woman who was another inmate in the same psychiatric facility and had her own history of murder Together they audaciously blogged about their crimes Using the hospitals computers leading to a proposal in the Swedish Parliament to prohibit internet access for patients in psychiatric institutions But also that's very interesting about her is she has her whole backstory and I think she's interesting I think she'll be what we'll talk about her soon. I'm actually interested in her story But having said all that
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You already know what to do(...) Grab your snacks grab your tea
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And get a nice little cozy little area and sit down and relax because today we're going to tell the story of(...) Isakson Jonsson
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Isakson Jonsson originally named Jimmy Daniel Isakson was born on October 14th 1978 and coping Sweden
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At the age of two he moved to Vasteris
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Throughout his upbringing Jonsson had a troubled past and was frequent in and out of institutions(...) He had a history of drug offenses and theft which occurred in various locations in southern and central Sweden in 2009 Jonsson crossed paths with Hela Christendson at a psychiatric clinic in Boras
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Both individuals had struggled with mental health issues and had prior felony convictions They had limited involvement in the labor market as well Hela had five children living with their fathers and Jonsson eventually moved from Boras to Skada in the autumn of 2010 Jonsson's mother had rented a sparsely furnished three-bedroom apartment for them at Valhalla Ghatan 13d in Skada They even sought assistance from social services in Skada for home equipment and grants(...) Jonsson and Hela had plans to live together as partners in the future and potentially open a tattoo and piercing shop out of their apartment
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According to Hela's sister Britt,(...) Jonsson had a violent temper often leading to arguments between him and Hela Britt often had to intervene and pick up her sister after she had claimed that Jonsson had never physically harmed her Despite showing up with bruises and on occasion a broken leg in three places During the initial police investigation following the murder Hela's diary was discovered painting a whole different picture of her boyfriend The diary entry written shortly before the murder expressed Hela's fears of Reluctance to share her concerns with her loved ones. She described Jonsson as a changed person who spoke about punishments and evil Hela also noted his frequent mood swings personality shifts and aggressive behavior But she believed she could handle it because she loved him(...) Not long before the murder Hela reached out to a woman at a local library near her home Seeking help in finding a safe hostel However, she made the librarian promise not to contact the police(...) During the trial public prosecutor Lars Johansson mentioned Hela's plans for a fresh start in Skada Which included the mentioning opening a tattoo and piercing shop Jonsson committed a gruesome murder of his girlfriend Hela Christensen on November 12th 2010 in their apartment in Valhalla Gotten 13d The events leading up to the murder were seemingly ordinary as they woke up at noon got dressed and went out shopping
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Jonsson purchased four beers of Jagermeister from sustainable August while Hela bought food from the local ika store of monkin(...) The couple returned to their apartment and were alone until the evening when the tragic incident occurred at some point Hela laid down on the mattress either to rest or read while Jonsson allegedly took a knife and cut the mattress He then positioned himself over Hela's shoulders and slit her throat quickly dampening the blood flow with a pillow(...) Hela had no chance to resist and death ensued almost immediately(...) Disturbingly Jonsson proceeded to cut off Hela's pants panties shirt and bra and a state of arousal He penetrated her but did not ejaculate(...) Using a knife saw and axe Jonsson decapitated Hela and also removed pieces of meat from her arms and legs which he took to the kitchen to cook in(...) In a frying pan he prepared the meat with salt and even added homegrown cannabis leaves Additionally Jonsson plays Hela's head on the kitchen counter and further processed it with an axe and knife Possibly with the intention of consuming it following the gruesome act Jonsson made a chilling call to the police and confessed to his crime in the emergency call he eerily stated when you get here You don't have to jump on me. I'm as calm as I can be He expressed his desire to do the right thing for himself Admitting that he had no awareness of his actions and has subsequently woken up to the horrifying reality in the initial police Interrogation Jonsson admitted that he had posed the greatest threat to others when he neglected taking his medication(...) Additionally he claimed that there was a tumultuous altercation on the day of the murder yet He couldn't pinpoint the exact trigger to his outburst of rage towards his girlfriend
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During the subsequent interrogation which occurred the day after the murder Jonsson attempted to clarify his actions stated Quote I may appear unaffected, but when it happened yesterday, I was like someone else entirely It was as if an entity took control of me Endquote as for the gruesome act of decapitating his partner Jonsson explained quote I have no idea why it felt as though there were multiple individuals in the room It was almost akin to watching a movie end quote on November 14th 2011 Jonsson was apprehended during a hearing at the Huivda police station on reasonable suspicion of murder The following day the scar board district court ordered him to undergo an extensive assessment conducted by forensic psychiatrist The Swedish National Board of forensic medical analyzed the blood sample collected at the time of his arrest(...) revealing that Jonsson had 1.3 per milli ethanol and 4.1 micrograms of trauma doll per gram of blood trauma doll is classified as a narcotic substance in Sweden during the search of Jonsson's apartment various items linked to the murder were discovered Notably a frying pan from the kitchen and a collection of horror movies on DVD among the numerous titles There were films such as the Green River Killer from 2005 and the Wonderland murders
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During the investigation a significant portion of the investigation was completely kept under wraps Which means a lot of the information that we have about the crime probably won't even be stated in this story In the gripping courtroom drama that unfolded on March 11th 2011 Jonsson a murder suspect stood trial on scar board district court With his hands cuffed he was escorted into the courtroom flanked by guards and his lawyer toy battler(...) The atmosphere was tense and Jonsson's major forensic psychiatrist Psychiatric examination had revealed a severe mental disorder accompanied by hallucinations(...) To ensure everyone's safety Jonsson was separated from the audience and journalists by a sturdy glass pane in a district court special security room Room 5 during the trial Jonsson's lawyer toy brantler revealed that his client had been in a psychotic state when the police arrived at his apartment Although he was able to recount the events leading up to the murder He claimed that his actions were driven by the voices in his head a result of his mental disorder Bantler emphasized that there was no other motive beyond this serious mental condition The chilling photos of the crime scene and the autopsy were examined in closed doors with only the prosecutor and the court officials present(...) The journalists and other spectators were actually highlighting the disturbing nature of the case in itself Ultimately Jonsson was found guilty of murder and sentenced to forensic psychiatric care with a special discharge review at Carson and hospital and could treat home in addition. He was ordered to pay substantial damages of 75,000 crowns Swedish grounds to Hella's parents and(...) 75,000 to each of the five children providing some measure of justice and solace to the grieving family in The autumn of 2011 news broke out that Jonsson had chosen not to take his prescribed medication for several months This information provided in the medical report of chief physician John Golby oski submitted the administrative court in link shopping(...) The report was indicated that during his initial stay in the psychiatric hospital Jonsson mostly kept to himself(...) However, as time went on he began to socialize with other inmates and even engaged in strength training He was also granted regular walks around the hospital grounds with the assistance of caregivers It was during this time at Carson and hospital that Jonsson crossed paths with Michelle Gustafson widely known in the media as the vampire woman Gustafson had been convicted of brutally slitting the throat of a 24 year old father named Daniel Stendman in Jackers Berg back in 2010(...) Before committing the murder she had written threatening messages on her blog expressing her attentions to harm people in Stockholm Metro by cutting their throats(...) Additionally, she had posed for pictures in the vampire like manner with bloody lips knives and even a chainsaw Jonsson and Gustafson became a couple on November 13th 2011
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After Jonsson asked her to be his girlfriend through a chat in Windows Live Messenger. They eventually got engaged on December 9th However, their relationship came to an end in 2017 according to a judgment from the administrative court The Boris Tydning newspaper reported that Jonsson and Gustafson had callously blogged about their committed crimes using a computer at the hospital The article also highlighted how offensive this was to the victims younger sister
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The decision to restrict the internet use for the individual inmates can only be made by chief medical officer under a very specific circumstance and the limitation can last for a maximum of two months at a time in October 2016 a motion was submitted to the Swedish Parliament by Sweden Democrats Kent Ekeroth and Per Ramhorn aiming to prevent this practice Jonsson had actively engaged with readers on his blog answering their questions and expressing his indifference toward society's opinions of him and his crime He stated that while most people claim that they would never take someone's life once they had done it it loses its significance He further emphasized that he was not a racist but rather Harvard hatred towards the entire human species with the exception of a few individuals He aligned himself with anti-human sentiments and praised historical figures such as the Vikings and Spartans(...) throughout April and May of 2016 Jonsson uploaded multiple videos on YouTube in these videos He can be seen speaking into the camera in broken English Discussing his fight for survival and his belief that the meaning of life revolves solely around survival He claimed that his philosophy ensured that he never had to question what is right and wrong Jonsson also shared his experience with drug-induced mental states claiming to have encountered devils angels and even aliens Despite these experience. He also admitted to had given up on life and one of his YouTube clips He affirmed his dislike for humans stating that the only historically Significant individuals were Vikings Spartans and similar groups He also revealed a deep interest in art which he supposedly developed during his time in the forensic psychiatric care In 2017 it was reported that Jonsson had been selling his own voodoo dolls and Mac brand art words directly from the hospital These dolls were crafted using toilet paper toothpicks and sewing thread with Jonsson incorporating his own blood Hair and semen into the dolls heads He had also created masks and various other pieces of art Some of which were exhibited in different platforms in 2015 It was reported that Jonsson had a four-hour furlough in Katrina home every week however in May 2016 Jonsson was granted a three-day furlough from Carson and hospital for the purpose of helping a relative move and attending a summer wedding The chief medical officer who applied for Jonsson to have more furloughs stated that his mental health was stable and that had been no relapses into drug abuse(...) The goal was to gradually increase his furloughs to his own apartments to provide him with contact with non-institutional psychiatric care clinic during overnight stays Jonsson was even given his own apartment during his period of care However, the administrative court denied achieved medical officers requests for two additional days of furlough due to concerns about the risk of reoffending and objections from the victims of Jonsson's family
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Jonsson did eventually receive a three-day furlough in June 2016 During which he helped a relative move and attended a wedding but his request for two more days of furlough was denied
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in the fall of 2016 Jonsson changed his surname to Drabad out of anger towards the administrator at the national Swedish Patent and Registration Office Jonsson wrote an angry letter to the administrator expressing his desire to change his surname to The letter played a role in the prosecutor objecting to Jonsson's furlough application in early 2017 Siting his inappropriate and threatening behavior towards the administrator was inappropriate Both the administrative court and the administrative court of appeals rejected Jonsson's furlough application(...) Despite the chief medical officer considering Jonsson to have completed the treatment and no longer have a psychotic diagnosis The courts rejected the application with an expert doctor supporting the chief medical officer's opinion in the spring of 2017 It was decided that Jonsson would continue to receive the care and be denied non institutional psychiatric care The chief medical officer and prosecutor believe that Jonsson still suffered from the mental disorders that caused him to be in there in the first place Jonsson however believe that he had been medically treated and wanted the treatment to end but his requests were rejected by the courts
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Uh, Yeah, it's a very crazy story I actually was feeling a little sick during the(...) explanation of the cannibalism acting going on
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When I hear stuff like that, I'm just like whoo(...) It's very
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It's hard for me to listen to stuff like that because then I imagine it and then I get the image stuck in my brain I get it and I just ate food So I was like, I felt like I felt like throwing up and I was like, no calm down think about I don't know puppies not for puppies, um but There's a lot of things going on on this But how it sounds like to me is that(...) That day everything seemed to be just fine and then he just Went for this and he felt like he was not himself, but he remembers everything that happened and if I understand correctly if you were in a if you have psychosis or if like you have this
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Outbursts
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Isn't it that you don't really remember everything that happened then that's not it. Did you get like a blackout?
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In his case at least from how he expressed it. It was like a out of body experience almost So like also at the same time he he says it as like I wasn't there But he remembers everything that happened, but he also felt like when he woke up he realized what actually happened yeah, so like it seems like it was a kind of like an out of body experience, but also I Obviously, I don't think he's you know Pretending either because it seems like he has multiple(...) Mental issues and it seemed like one of the primary triggers was his anger Because the what you triggered it thing is remember they found like drugs in his system. Oh That's that's true. So they found drugs in the system and then on top of that(...) He consistently was abusing his ex-girlfriend before he killed him. That's true as well So he always had this lash out towards anger and then anger would be his go-to Then the fact that he was always angry on top of the drugs is probably what sent him into that spiral Which allowed him to kill his ex-girlfriend and then after he killed his ex-girlfriend Started eating pieces of her, you know for whatever reason also like he also had this arousal thing going on and also had sex Yeah, that's like necrophilia thing going on - yeah So That's why I was like in my brain I'm just like I feel like I can agree with the doctors and the specialist who feel like he has to be in the institution Even though he hasn't had that outburst What we see here
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He hasn't had the outburst happening before and he'd been medically treated
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Because it just seemed so abrupt Yeah, like it needs to be like it sounds like to me his triggers Like he always has an anger thing because even him writing a letter to the person Now that he's being treated like that's also a thing that I'm thinking about constantly like how long can you be instituted?(...) Until you're fully treated. The thing is with someone like him It could be there for life Honestly, he's also feels like he's being untreated like unfairly treated because he's like I'm feeling I'm better now
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Obviously, he can't really tell that maybe but you know, I don't know yes, it's it's hard to say with someone like him because(...) He can be okay now But then let's say for example, then he can let's say they release him He can have a bad day or he can let's say he goes to the bar takes a shot Especially if he's suffering from hallucinations was a which they did say was a part of his diagnosis
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And then also at one point to treat right? Yeah, and then even at one point they said he just stopped taking his medication Like people don't know like when it comes to like most mental health related(...) Medication it takes a while for it to kick in and it takes a while for it for you to come down from it So I'll put in like when I say that I mean this like you have to take medication I think for at least two weeks when it comes to a lot of mental health medication for your system to start Normalizing whatever it's trying to normalize. But then if you stop taking it for two weeks for two weeks, you'll seem
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Okay ish until it's fully out of your system then those things will start to come back You know what I think about I think about the movie Joker how he kind of like stopped taking his medication and then he just like slowly getting into this like spiral of(...) Like hallucinations and just like yeah being the Joker basically(...) And I just think that like I just thought about it when he said it yeah, so it's one of those situations where it's just like
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You can't really trust someone especially when they've proven that if they get the chance they won't take their medication But also he wasn't really fully treated prior to the murder either. I mean, that's true So like how would they know medication though? Because he admitted that I'm the most dangerous when I'm not my meds because remember he spent a lifetime in and out of hospitals already so It seems like he already had been admitted multiple times and then he has unfortunately the behavior of not consistently taking his meds and unfortunately it escalated and he did what he did so it's tough in a situation like this because(...) This is a mental health issue. Obviously
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It's it's not I don't know the situation in terms of the investigation or anything like that But this is a really sticky situation and most people and part of me even myself would be like, yeah No, lock them up to put them away forever. But also one part of me wants to do that. Like I Cuz like hell. Oh my god, not so I'm just saying hell because you the hella hela Christensen
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Was
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Basically I like if to me feels like she also had mental issues obviously because she had like probably some type of Abundment issues and also this type of like wanting to save him in a way mentality And and I think you know, obviously if somebody who not didn't have any mental issues Wouldn't have stayed with somebody who was as abusive and stuff like he was So, you know, I feel I feel I am so sad about like that. She died like that. That's just crazy to me because I think she truly wanted to help him and I think she truly loved him and You know but honestly
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For all the people who are in abusive relationship, please(...) You can't help somebody who can't help themselves
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so(...) Like if you see red flags you have to prioritize yourself Even though you love the person even if we want to help them if they don't want to help themselves Don't stick like don't be there. Honestly Don't say go because that person will drag you down into whatever pit they are in and then unfortunately sometimes even in situations like this It can escalate and you might lose your life over it. Yeah, and it's it's not worth it. It's not Do what you got to do get yourself up out of there
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No report to the police do what you have to do Just don't stay and do whatever it takes and regarding the vampire lady thingy Yeah, we got to do her next like we have to do that next But I don't want to talk too much about her But I do want to talk about the internet thing and the social media thing. He's still active on YouTube and stuff, right? I don't know if he's still active but They
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Decided not because of them they decide decided that mental hospitals or maybe specifically that mental hospital institution They will not give them internet. So I'm like way confused of how they were able to like do that still well I don't know. Maybe they go through it. I don't know. I don't know if they're still active on the internet or not, but Ironically enough one of his videos was still online So I know we usually in the podcast on a really good note and stuff like that But I think today I'm gonna do something a little different just this one time or maybe another time when it's important but I'm gonna play part of the YouTube video audio that was online and You can kind of listen to the audio of the video(...) The video is still online. You probably can find it by yourself You look for it, but I'm not trying to put the link for that because I'm not gonna support You know Something as crazy as this but I want you to hear the audio and then I want you to kind of make Your own choices and decisions and kind of gauge what you think about this person, you know by yourself. It's in English so Everyone should be able to keep up with it who speaks and understand English so we're gonna play that for the last end of the podcast just so you can get an idea of You know what those videos entailed? So Be safe my friends and uh, here's the video. Bye (Music)
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Hello, I promise I would answer some questions so I will do that First question. How old are you? I'm 37 years old. I Was born in 1978
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Where I was born in Groves was I was born in the town called Sherping Then I moved it when I was about two years old to town called West and also two miles from there And about ten miles from here My favorite places before I got there it was
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Probably in Westeros and everywhere where my good friends were and or They all probably now where my daughter is I'm happy of course favorite food I Only enjoy food when I am with my daughter when I cook food for her or when
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When we are in a restaurant
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Because here I don't want to even if I eat something good when I'm in the hospital I buy some candy or whatever. I don't really enjoy it because I don't want to(...) Connect a good feeling with this situation because I don't want to I don't want it to be
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Good here. I want it be hard because that makes me and You know, it's a perfect year grow ground because to grow from
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You know to be become a better version of what you want, it's like a great school in that place It's a fucked up place long goes every(...) Your own all day long the 24 hours a day Every day people scream cry Yeah, blah blah blah
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Yeah, I hope I understand what I mean
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not really I Got tattoos in most places exactly my balls I got in places that I that only
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see in the How long have I
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Did on the works paint and stuff
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Not right now
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But I miss from the outside from the freeva I don't really see me as none free because freedom in that sense does not exist this is just I live just in a little smaller box and you are there on the free because I'm free here in some sense. Yeah, I have less responsibility. I can focus on my All my time on working out my body and train my art and The biggest person that we all They've all locked up in there. This is the prison of all the senses of the mind combined with the only all the elements
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That's a prison if you want to see them something a person that is what is
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We can see
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So that goes with your hair if you're locked in a smaller box like me or in a bigger box
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So I Look at my box like I can imagine a Loreva look at his cocoon
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He's a hell of a ride
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In my My process to make art is No, it depends what I have to do or to it. I use many things. Maybe I've seen
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They're not allow everything of course at the hospital(...) Often it'll be a shiny sink is my favorite when I paid with two hands at the same time I do it most my things with two hands because
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You see you got two eyes because we we need to see depth in things We got two hands and They are controlled with
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One half of the brain so I thought is most go faster to paint with two hands and You mostly get a better result as and now now it's like that. I only if I want to paint especially What is called I I I I I Just called When you want to make a portrait with something I only almost look at the Next sample of photo of the one I'm gonna paint I don't look at the paper as much on my hands the hands goes where my eyes look at
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so(...) That is it's a cool thing. Try it
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If I Do I what I hope for the future?(...) The thing is I don't like the word hope
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And or belief because I use it because it's needed in that human
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Land which the goal is what country called for that's a word but in my
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Thinking about that is
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If you believe in something it means that you take all the things that worth something your time time is life your emotions of your sometimes even money and everything you own and
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Put that in something that not
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Yes, it lies. It's a fantasy. It's a hope thing based on almost a fear or imagination and No, no logic
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That is belief and Hope is something you use when
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Your it's a higher form of belief is your debts created almost a fear of hopelessness of of
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Feeling lost in every way
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Hope is a sign for weakness I Wish for the future. I don't know what future balls for me I want the more
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Why I happen to others I really can't see have nothing happens to me
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Since my father exploded in my mother
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This is a continue of that explosion
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I keep on
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When I finish exploring the echo the Circles in the water for me will keep on going and I believe it's overall I See it like this. I think everybody can see this There is me and there is everything else and the only thing(...) That stops everything from being whole and connect to itself is me(...) like a hair in the eye you are
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stone in the shoe(...) It feels uncomfortable. That's because that everything in this world is made to kill to consume To dry energy from everything is this is a planet of the rotten flesh
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Because every good body go around rotten everybody feels of every every other mystery and then just to Rise again in some other form to keep dying to keep killing The ultimate goal from everything here is death when everybody goes around and thinks that we are alive This is only different stages of death. Nothing more. This is a rotten
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We rot everything rot here. We live in a kind of a prison like
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Digestive system for something
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Eternal machine of eternal dying(...) And there's nothing wrong with that Talking in that sense the land we languish me human. Yeah, so my what is this mean to be alive and that? I can't see something is live. That's it dying(...) You're dead
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Thanks for all I hope you all have a nice day
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Bye