Welcome to Scandinavian Crimes. My name is Devante and say hello to my lovely co-host Delila. - Hi.
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- And on this podcast, we cover famous Scandinavian criminals who made their mark throughout Scandinavian history. So last week we did an update on the Brevet case, which as we know, updates of last week were included in the Scandinavian region.
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Well today, we're gonna be talking about something that happened in the States. I like to do this every once in a while to kind of keep you guys up to date on current events around the world and this dystopian area we call the United States. So this particular topic is very interesting and very scary because this is regarding this whole, I said male, Mississippi jail investigation where a mother was looking for her son after he left her home.
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And basically he was killed by a police officer's basically a patrol car. And instead of notifying the family,
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he did have identification on him. Instead of notifying the family, they buried him in like right behind this jail cemetery. Now it wasn't like an official cemetery. It was more like a unmarked grave that some prisons do if they feel like they can't reach people just to bury some bodies and loosen up space inside.
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Now, the reason this got so big over here, if I remember correctly and you know, I can always correct me, is the fact that not only did Dexter who was the victim(...) and had state identification on him, was he killed and then not notified.(...) This like sparked this huge investigation(...) where there were other instances of this dating back, I think like what about like 10 years or more where there was hundreds of bodies.
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So it's just like really crazy to hear stuff like this, where if that boy, I said boy, but if Dexter didn't go missing,
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it would have never brought to light this whole situation where hundreds of bodies were missing that other families never got notified. And this is considered one of the more craziest forms of corruption in terms of police, the correction officers and the prisons is how they operate in general.
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But go ahead Delilah, I'll just let you do your thing.
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- So basically the things that I wanted to talk about is that obviously other victims names and cases have also been unraveled thanks or thanks to, but I mean, due to Dexter's case.
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And to me, I mean, I get why the police would have tried to, you know, hush the situation with the Dexter case because they accidentally, I assume they accidentally killed him with the car,
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but we don't really know if that happened. I don't even know how they could determine that, maybe they did an autopsy, I don't know.
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But based on the information that we have, it just feels like it would make sense for them to conceal whatever happened to Dexter and just be like, oh, he's gone. We are trying our best to find him, but obviously they were the ones who committed the crimes.
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But if you look at the other victims, it just seems like why did you guys bury them? Why didn't you just notify the families?
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Because based on the other cases, it just seemed like the police didn't really do it to them. It was something else that made them die, but they just didn't want to notify it and then they buried them. So that's why I'm like a little bit confused about the other victims, not all of them, but like some of the victims. I'm just like, why didn't they notify it? It didn't sound like they were trying to, it didn't sound like the police did it, but maybe, I don't know, maybe they did, I don't know.
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But that's what makes this kind of trippy because they didn't notify them. And in this case as well with Dexter,
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he was killed by police. - And he was, but like the other case it didn't seem.
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- Yeah, but also that's what I'm saying. Like, so if they killed him and then covered it up and buried him in that unmarked cemetery or whatever, you really think this is the first time? Because why would that be their first instinct, that that was the first time? Like, oh, I accidentally killed somebody. Let me go to this place.(...) That's not something that happens on a first time basis for anyone, which means there seems to be, at least in my opinion, remember this is all speculation from me.
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There seems to be like, this is not the first time a situation like that might've arisen(...) where someone's gotten killed or something that happened wasn't supposed to happen and they covered it up and they went to this prison with hundreds of other people in unmarked graves and just didn't say anything.(...) And that's kind of been the go-to because, like I said, if these cops really did it for the first time, it was an accident, why is that your first thing to do?
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And whether the cops don't hit them themselves, thought of it, or if the people at the police station or whoever the superiors are thought of it, it's still iffy in regards to like, he had identification on him. That's my whole thing about it. - I can tell you about another victim, the other victim that I was thinking about was Mario Terrell Moore.
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So Mario was basically,
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based on the report she received when she went, sorry, Mario's sister went to the police department to get more information about what is going on, what happened to her brother.(...) And then she received more information from the police department saying that he was bludgeoned. I don't know what that, like, I guess it was like a blunt object hitting- - He was like blunt force. - Yeah. - Yeah.
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- To death, and he was wrapped in a tarp and left on the street.(...) So here we don't really know who did what.(...) So that's why I'm thinking like maybe the police department just like, if it was them,
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obviously, because otherwise they wouldn't have tried to hit the evidence,(...) then why didn't they, you know, they just make it seem like this happened.
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He got hurt and he was left on the street. And then we kind of buried him.
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So that's why I was like, this doesn't really make any sense.
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But now that I think about it, it would be making more sense if, you know, the police actually did hurt or did hurt him.
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- Yeah, I think like, I don't think all of them are caused by the police. But I think somehow- - But that's why, if it wasn't though, why would they do that? Like that's why I'm like, if it wasn't the police following everything, why would they, is it maybe like, maybe the police would have relations with like, for example, if the police officer had a son that did it, do you mean like that or like,(...) cause like, I don't understand- - I just mean like in general, I just mean like in general, it's like, it seems like it's a combination of negligence and simply when the police make a mistake instead of being like, hey, we did this,(...) they would rather cover it up and then sweep it under the rug. So, I don't know like- - But even though things that had nothing to do with the police at all. - Let's not say I'm not saying all of them had something to do with the police. I'm saying it's a combination of negligence in terms of let's say someone got killed by other means instead of reporting it properly, they just don't deal with it. They'd be like, well, let's just get rid of the body and go by the day. - That's just stupid to me. - But there's evidence of that, not even just simply throughout history, it still happens today on a much smaller scale, negligence.(...) So, I think it's a combination of negligence(...) and just maybe some fishy stuff going on, but I don't think that was the first time a cop has done that. And let's say if none of, like I said, most of the bodies in there, I'm pretty sure is not from police, but I'm pretty sure a good chunk of it is from outright negligence, from either corrections officers in the prison where this took place,
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and also the police who obviously had connections to the prison to bury bodies in the first place.
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So, that's also what this investigation is about because people, they spoke, I spoke, but basically they wanted to sue the county
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and supposedly according to the mayor, he was like, "Oh, there was no wrongdoing."
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Even though,(...) even from the first case alone with Dexter,(...) you did not report him missing. He had identification on him. So, you negligently,(...) even after you, like the cop hit them, you still took his body, buried him or attempted to and didn't notify anybody. - Even the internal investigation by his mom was like, "This is easy."
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He, and maybe his team, I don't know, was able to identify so many bodies and the victims and everybody.(...) The funny thing is,(...) even though in Mario as well, many of the victims, family members, friends, or whatever, heard most of it from the news.(...) - And then they had to find out themselves. - And then they had to go to the police department to get more information. And that's just crazy. - Which is negligence. - That's crazy. That is so crazy to me.
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And how many bodies, there were like 250?
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- It was like 200 and something bodies over the course of, like I said, over 10 years. - For no reason, no reason at all.(...) - So there were families who, like I said, I know in some cases, people go to prison, they don't have family, it happens sometimes. But I'm pretty confident that's not, it shouldn't be 200 and something bodies. - It doesn't matter if the victims have families or not though. So, it just stupid. - Yeah, I'm like, in reality, they still need to be notified. And just this whole thing puts into question the integrity of the prison, the police in that county, and based on the mayor's answer, the mayor as well.
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So this is the whole reason why I was like, I wanted to talk about it because,
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stuff like, I don't know if this exists obviously in other parts of the world, cause I can only speak from- - I mean, I wouldn't be surprised though. Like, I'm pretty sure it does exist everywhere. I could say like corruption is everywhere.
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- Absolutely. - So like, I truly believe that it happens everywhere. It's just that in this case in America or Mississippi, specifically,(...) they got busted. So, they got caught. But other places don't really get caught though, but you know. I'm glad that we're talking about this, cause I do believe that the police in every country has different degrees of corruption, but there's definitely corruption, you know.
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- So I guess I'll say this for the most part, and you already know it's gonna be related to how, like usually when I said the end of the podcast, I'm gonna say in the middle, but it's a little different.(...) I will say, if you, especially if you have someone who's in a prison system or who goes, you haven't seen in a while, I haven't heard from in a while, it's always best to check up on people, especially people you care about, because you never know like what could be going on in this world. Now, I still firmly believe depending on the country,(...) is it less likely because, you know, America is a clown show that's been set on fire(...) since spiraling down a hill, you know. So I know it's a little different.
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It's a very inefficient place. So I know this can happen far more frequently here than anywhere else. I'm a firm believer.
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But if you see anything or seem like things might be suspicious, like someone you should have heard from and haven't, then sometimes you might have to make a few phone calls, because situations like this can happen. And this doesn't even have to be just about prisons.(...) It can be about anything, you know. There were, there are cases that have happened even over here where people have gone missing and then family never knew.(...) And then because the family never knew or they assume like, oh, maybe they just, you know, don't want to talk to the family anymore or whatever the case may be, the person is dead this whole time. And then the person who killed them is floating under the radar because no one is looking into it. And you can never know who it is, you know. It's been multiple times where partners have killed, you know, whoever they were dating or married to. And then the family just assume like, I just assume they were living their life.
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So I would just say, reach out to people,(...) make sure they're okay, try and figure out, you know, like, hey, just checking in.(...) Cause you know, you never know, unfortunately. And more so obviously for myself who lives in this burning buffoonery clown show we call United States. You know, I have to make sure to check in with family and friends because as you can tell, a lot of stuff happens over here.(...) And not like frequently as in like every second of every day, like as soon as you go outside, you're gonna just deal with something like this, but it happens way more frequently than it should.
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That's the point I'm making. So just reach out to people, call them, check on them, make sure stuff like this doesn't happen. And just, you just gotta look out for each other at the end of the day.(...) But as this unfolds, we find more information.
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- I just wanted to say that I think it's important to also fight for yourself and your, cause like nobody,(...) like authorities or anybody who is,
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that might not always be on your side. So you also have to like really fight for yourself as well,
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to get your, to get, you know, your rights basically. So I also want to point out that obviously you have to take care of each other and your family and your friends, but also you have to fight for your rights as well, unfortunately.(...) And nobody's on your side except obviously your closest
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friends and family members. - And be sure to remember as well that in general,
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when it comes to fighting for your rights, you know, some people think it's strictly possibly just a racial thing. It's not, it's a power dynamic thing.
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Some people like to abuse their power and they feel like they're above the law(...) and it's unfortunate, but that's why, like Delilah said, you have to fight for your right, your ability to, you know, speak up for yourself because people will try and gas light you into thinking you shouldn't have that ability. - Minimize you, minimize your experience,(...) everything. So you have to, especially if you're a minority, you have to fight for your rights and it sucks, but you know, it's tiring, but nobody's gonna help you except for you, so. - Minority and women.
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So. - Women are minorities. - I just, I wanna specify, cause you know, when people say minority, they usually mean like racial minority.
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So at least over here, maybe, like I said, it's when people say minority, they're usually referring to like an ethnic minority.
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- There are levels of minorities. There are also a lot of information on that on the internet. If you guys are interested in that, just read. It's actually very interesting.
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A lot of studies on that as well.
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Social structures, everything, all of that. But we don't, unfortunately, don't have time to talk about this huge topic,(...) but it is very interesting.
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- Yeah.(...) But you know, as things unfold about this case,
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we probably won't do like another episode about it per se, depending on what details come up. - We might just like, you know, like I said on social media, we might just, you know, start posting more about some of these updates that don't make it to episodes, but we'll make posts about them instead. So that way, you know, have a nice friendly channel, Facebook, and just, you know, move on from there when it comes to like cases like this that are not specifically about Scandinavia. But you know, we'll leave that up to y'all. - We might do like, as well, like topics that do not have to be surrounding and completely about Scandinavia. - Yeah.
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- So it might be popping up depending on how like huge that topic is.(...) - Yeah. But just be on the lookout for those things. But hopefully this is a nice little episode to let you know current events.(...) And next week we have some nice juicy detailed succulent case that's gonna come up. That was the case. - It's a long one. - Yeah, it's gonna be a long one. So I'm gonna go ahead and do that. It's gonna be a long one. So we wanted to give you guys like a little bit of a pre warmup before we get to the long one. Instead of just jumping you in after, you know, the new year's episode and just, you know, the update of Brevik. So we just wanted to warm you up. Get you nice and sweeten you up a little bit. So I guess let's end the episode on a good note.
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See what you got in mind. - Cuazon.
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- Cuazon. The reason I say this is because I saw a video of a guy go into a shop like full of like, it was a shop just with croissants.
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- Croissants. - Croissants. I don't know how to say that. I'm sorry, all the French people out there, you guys probably gonna murder me right now. And I'm sorry, I'm trying, I'm trying. - That's so negative.
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(laughing) - So that's what I like to eat.
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- I think, hmm. - I'm not craving anything in particular, to be honest with you. - That's fine, you could just eat air.
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- I would filter feed.
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But I think I'll just do something really simple. It's not like food, but you know, it's actually getting super cold in the States. And I think I can go for some nice, the ginger peach tea I had earlier,(...) was you know, very nice, warm, homey. - I like ginger.
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- Ginger's good for you, you know, just. - I'm gonna get some lemon honey. - But that's what I'm gonna, that's what I'm gonna go with for today. Something basic, I know it's not me, but you know. But if you enjoy the episode,
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So that way, you know, we can reach more people and also just make this so much more inclusive and fun and just do this together, you know, so.
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Yeah, I hope you guys have a good day and enjoy yourselves and we shall catch you in the next one, the nice juicy long one, pause.
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Bye. - Bye.
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