Understanding the Whispers of the Body with Kathie Malby

In this episode, Kathie Malby and Blaire Stanislao discuss recognizing the body's wisdom and how it speaks to us. We draw inspiration from the works of Julie Cannon, Dolores Cannon, and the principles akin to those of Louise Hay, to explore how each body part narrates a story of our lives' struggles and triumphs.  From the energy pathways mapped in reflexology to the chronic pains that echo our emotional battles, this segment embraces the intimate dialogue between body and spirit.  

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:01

Hello, this is Blair Stanisleo with the Happy Lion Center. Welcome to our podcast, Mystical and Infamous, where we have playful and easy conversations about anything mystical, getting to the heart of all things, strange and weird. Join us in a bit of magical tomfoolery, spreading the alchemy of love and link. And now we invite you to enjoy the show.

Speaker 2: 0:25

Two years ago when I was diagnosed with it, with the cancer, I just jumped all the hoops I was supposed to jump. I've had wonderful care. I have no doubt it's gone. I am on medication for it. But I also know medication means there's going to be more medication somewhere, no matter how you do it, because there's side effects. Well, this medication, it's an astrosol. The side effect is the thinning of the bones.

Speaker 2: 0:56

If I don't take care of this older body, she's just going to suffer, and when she suffers then I can't do things and I haven't done a very good job of that through the years, because she's strong and she can plow through almost anything and she'll put up with most of my behaviors. But it's kind of like ever since that diagnosis. At that point my body was saying to me and she was saying it if you don't help me here, you won't get to do the things you want to do. You need help Because when I asked her, I talked about the cancer. I went for hypnotherapy, talked about the cancer and I said what do you want to do about it? And it was basically.

Speaker 2: 1:46

She shrugged her shoulders and said it's on you, I've done everything I can, which was encapsulated. That's exactly how it was. It was all closed up and everything, but it needed to be out of there. So what I mean? I had it removed and ever since then I've been thinking about what she said. Well, shortly after that I decided to do the fasting the one day of a week fasting. So that's really all I've done, other than some walking Tai Chi, that kind of thing, but not with any. What do you want to call?

Speaker 3: 2:28

Gusto, severe gusto maybe.

Speaker 2: 2:35

Even gusto. So this transitioning, I thought, ok, that's enough, it's been two years. What do you want to do when you are retired? Not so much. What do you want to do? How do you want to live? Because I'm not about the doing. My whole focus at this point in my life I turn 77 next week at this point in my life, the whole focus for me is about mindfulness and the work of the mystics and I want to understand and walk that path. That, I believe, is a portion of this path that I'm on. I'm going to walk that. I've got to have literally walk it. I've got to have her, the in tandem with her, and the musculature, the bones and all of that, the nerves and all of that that goes together. So eating right is part of I know what to do.

Speaker 3: 3:44

Mm-hmm, the difference in knowing and actually following through.

Speaker 2: 3:52

With an intention that it's for the rest of my life, not this month and maybe next month, but all the months. And so what does that mean? What does it look like? That's a whole new focus for me, and I'm not interested in weight loss. I got rid of that kind of nonsense a long time ago. Not that weight loss is a bad thing, but it's what America has done with weight loss and looking at our bodies with such criticism.

Speaker 3: 4:24

Well, I actually have this conversation with my hairdresser. She has crones. She has crones and she's the first head for many years, seriously, yeah, and as a matter of fact, she's had a huge part of her intestines taken out and she's better because of it. But I don't know how we had this conversation. But eventually I got to the point where I just said, you know, I can't hate myself into thinness, like I mean, it would be nice to be thin and it would be, you know, might be fun, a different experience that I would have, or whatever. But every time I think about it I'm like but why am I doing this? So that I look better in a pair of pants, or because somebody else feels better about me? Like I don't actually care what somebody thinks about what I look like in a pair of pants. You know, I mean it's not to say that I don't care what I look like, but it's not my driving force.

Speaker 3: 5:16

It's somewhere on the lines I know this is going to sound weird, but somewhere in the lines of I was just talking to somebody about channeling and she was saying she also was learning to channel the same time with me. No-transcript. Essentially, she was kind of describing the information that comes through and I don't know. I just made a joke to her because for a while there she was really doing this. She didn't know she was doing it. It wasn't labeled like that, but that's what she was doing is channeling. There was a point where she came and told me that you know, like I just wanted to know who it is, and then she's going to this, great links, and I'm thinking I don't even care who it is that's coming through. But it's like, frankly, when I meet somebody, you could tell me your name five times and unless there was something strange about it, it wouldn't go in my brain. Like there has to be something else that causes me to remember where this person's name is, because you're not your name, you know.

Speaker 3: 6:14

And I feel the same about the body and like it's something we have to live in. Of course, I've had lots of issues where like okay, now you really have to pay attention. The body is like beating you up. Pay attention, you know, but as far as like really identifying with it like a physical presence, like I want to look a certain way or whatever, I just can't do it, like I don't have the stamina in me and, like you said, it's not like it's bad to do that, but I find that there's a lot of negativity associated with that and, of course, I've had, like people in my family who are overweight and, like you know, my mother, deal with all the emotional ramifications of all that. I mean, like everywhere we went, it was like do I look that fat, do I look like that person?

Speaker 2: 6:57

all the time it was like I know I've got it in my family too and I don't know when I let go of all of that. It's been since I've been single, but I the any food plan that I have I have done has educated me further about what I can and can't do because of the the gut system I have.

Speaker 3: 7:25

Oh, actually, yeah, so so I mean, I'm the Virgo. I don't know where. I guess Virgo is in your six house because you're in Aries, but I'm a Virgo rising and you know that's like the play of the whole life of a Virgo is digestion right? Oh, it must be oh it is, trust me, it is. I mean, it's even that. That's where the shot, the shocker is that you're dealing with. Right, but it's for me it's been.

Speaker 3: 7:52

I mean I think I was two years old. My mom told me a story about she had taken me to the emergency room, essentially had gastroenteritis, and of course they give me antibiotics, whatever Two years old, and she said I was so lifeless and so sick that as a two year old, they put an IV in and I didn't even move, which that astounded her. She was kind of surprised that I was just like lay there. I would feel so bad and I, as an adult, you know, I realized I have IVS and I look up, you know it's been, it's been a whole evolution.

Speaker 3: 8:23

You're old enough to know that, like there are conditions that people don't, they don't know anything about. So they speculated about it for a long time, you know, and then eventually actually get some real research. So I've been reading on it for a long, long time and they didn't know. The bottom line is they don't know. But they did say that actually being born via cesarean is not helpful to the digestion because of the bacteria and the mother's vagina. Then as you come through normally you get that bacteria and then breastfeeding I wasn't breastfed. It was like every possible combination that they're discovering that could affect that I had. So of course I'm going to have that kind of issue, but like your, like your brother, for me it's like it's the pain. Honestly, it's a pain as a driving factor.

Speaker 2: 9:09

Yeah, yeah, it is, and I'm I'm finally ready to deal with it, because I've just lived with it.

Speaker 3: 9:17

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 9:18

And I'm finally ready to deal with it, because what I, what I, what I discovered two years ago in that diagnosis was my body, that she is entirely separate and distinct from me and she belongs on the earth and the only reason I get to be here is because she's willing to be here too and she needs me in here so she can live. Yeah, otherwise she doesn't live. Yeah, she's gone, and she knows that. So it's a, it's a working tandem.

Speaker 1: 9:52

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 9:53

And she's like but I am entirely separate. And she said you know, I will lay down and stay here, I belong to the earth, but you won't. You will go on, but you won't, but I won't, and I want you to stay.

Speaker 3: 10:09

Oh, and I said, you got that desire communicated, yeah.

Speaker 2: 10:14

Yeah, and I mean this is a whole new I, I, I really am working on a book, or maybe the books writing within me, about this. Yeah, this discovery of the body having all of its own memory and intention and focus for the care of whoever we are in here and she needs to be able to express that and make me take tension. Well, what has she been trying to do all my life Pain? Yeah, I just push past it. All right, I'm going to eat that and I'm not going to feel good for a couple of hours, but I'll be okay by morning. You know that kind of thing. Well, it's very, very disrespectful and disregarding earth.

Speaker 3: 11:01

Well, you know, I have to tell you, though Mike's been, because I've had a major like do you think, do you think your brother's about me? He's older than me, but I'm probably going to be just like him by the time I get that old. But is that it? Yeah, um, what was I going to say you, through the years, as I learned what works for me or what doesn't?

Speaker 3: 11:24

The thing that I find is that and I think that's the same in terms of development of the human like as a whole, no matter what is that? You know, we come into this world, our parents do the best they can and we're doing the best we can. And if we are put in a situation where something doesn't work for our body I mean, I'm sure, parents of children who are allergic to dye in America or they're, you know, they're celiac, or you know they are forced to deal with it right away, but not everybody has it to that degree. So we're all kind of figuring our ways through as we go through this. And, um, you know, a lot of people I mean, I'll tell you, even with this last major diet change that I did about two and a half years ago, I think I had experienced before when I quit eating wheat this dramatic shift in inflammation where, like I didn't know I was inflamed.

Speaker 3: 12:18

I mean I knew I had certain like I had allergies, and you know my feet hurt or whatever, but I didn't associate that with inflammation, um, but when I quit the weed I was like, wow, that stuff's a lot better, like I don't feel like I have allergies 24 seven and you know. But until you experience where it's not there, you know that there's any different way of being.

Speaker 2: 12:40

Exactly. Yeah, you get used to being icky. Yeah, you just do. Whether it be the phlegm that collects in the nasal passages or the sinuses or the throat or or whether it's, you know, your lower intestine is just screaming. Yeah, it doesn't matter what it is, but when the inflammation is released and relieved, it's such a difference and that's what I'm hoping this cabbage soup thing to do. You know, I've done this. I learned a lot about vegetarianism in in this four weeks that I've done it, and now, as I've entered into this cabbage soup, I am really hoping that it will release the uh, the some of the inflammation, uh, to clean out that lower intestine where it's it's probably not processing very well. Yeah, and we're probiotics. I don't know what prebiotics are, but probiotics.

Speaker 3: 13:42

So pro, I don't remember. One of them is like it's the fiber. Essentially it's fiber, I mean. I'm sure somebody can correct me, but basically prebiotic, I think, are essentially fiber, and then probiotics are the bacteria, I think, or something of somewhere I don't know.

Speaker 2: 13:57

That kind of makes sense because there's bacteria in the like yogurt and things like that, yeah, and I don't know what the gut um, but what I'm hoping is for a reset and then, believe you me, it's keto for about three months.

Speaker 3: 14:13

Yeah, well, I tried to do that for a while. I did not do it very well at that, yeah.

Speaker 2: 14:18

That works for me.

Speaker 3: 14:20

So that's like basically meat, vegetables and low carb vegetables, right? Low carb diet Probably need some more carbs than than I don't remember coming. Years and years ago I did a low carb thing.

Speaker 2: 14:33

But I'll probably modify it some and allow other car, other vegetables. But I've been off of sugar since the day after Christmas.

Speaker 3: 14:43

Oh, I bet you feel better for that too.

Speaker 2: 14:46

Yeah, yeah, amazing.

Speaker 3: 14:49

I have. I have heard that sugar is actually more addictive even than cocaine.

Speaker 2: 14:54

I just, I thought I can't do this anymore and I so I've had all these bits and pieces of the happening that I believe are an energy direction. Yeah Me, because I really do want to walk this rest of the road in this contemplative way, and this inflammation in my body and the not feeling good, it's. I mean, I'm not past it, I just, I just ignore it, but it's I can't.

Speaker 3: 15:29

Sometimes you can't it. Does it actually matter of fact? The channeling course that I'm taking, the teacher spends a lot of time saying that in his experience that you know basically it's Michael Sheridan and he is. I'm doing a dream course with him. But this is part of it is to learn how to channel and he's very specific about how to do it. And he has said multiple times you know, we get told in our dreams, yeah, what we need to be eating or not eating. Right, and if you don't do what your dreams essentially are telling you, once you can figure out what they're saying, then you'll have problems essentially walking your path. Like you're talking about this, you feel like this is your life path because you're connected and you understand, you get the information right. So if you know your life path and within your life path it says, hey, quit eating dairy.

Speaker 3: 16:22

You know that's really hard for a lot of people. I mean it's even hard for me. I still miss butter, but I don't eat it anymore. But I mean, like I definitely would have been, like I don't know that. You know I did say one time I don't think you could have too much garlic and then one friend of mine said, oh yes, you can. And then I finally experienced one time when there was too much garlic, but butter was one of those things. I was like there was no such thing as too much better. Like what are you talking about, you know? And now I just, I really I don't eat it and I feel so much better and if I eat it, I find well, I can, I can experience a huge shift. But what he's also found is that if you don't make those diet changes, you you are essentially, you're too focused on whether you notice it or not. You're too focused on your body, so you can't open up to listen to the messages that come through.

Speaker 2: 17:09

Well, I, I am just amazed at what I have. You've got these little pieces, but they're doing and it. It all started two years ago with that diagnosis. Yeah, and what you just about weight loss or dieting it's, it's about healthy eating and what's healthy for me. Yeah, which is all very different.

Speaker 3: 17:31

And so the last two and a half years I've done. I started with nutritional response testing, which is essentially muscle testing Okay, and it's not Chinese medicine, and you test. So first I went to a naturopath for the first time and she had a blood test that you do for I don't know. See what you were, you were, your body wasn't doing well with okay, and I was going to get marked the mercury out of my teeth and the doctor said you need to go to a naturopath because you'll need to chelate, and okay, so I went to a naturopath never been to one and she had that test. I'm like, okay, I want to run that test because I've always wanted to know what is it really that I can eat or not eat, cause I don't know. I'm just like guessing Right. And she ran this test and it was really hard for me to swallow, in a sense, that the results of that test, because it was essentially everything that I ate. The more of it I ate, the higher the inflammation was, or the higher the what do you call it? Immune, like an immune response to that. And so my conclusion is I probably had what they call now leaky gut. Okay, oh, so you know, I was like, okay, I'm going to go to a naturopath. So so I was just completely desperate, but I was also determined to find a solution.

Speaker 3: 18:44

So I made it a week or so and then I'm like calling these nutritional people because I had heard about who they were and I was like, okay, I've got to do something, I've got to figure out what to eat, because this piece of paper is telling me I can't eat anything I like to eat. I mean, the worst was the tomatoes, the garlic and the onions. I was like, okay, that's like flavor, you know. So it's like standard. Yeah, it's like salt or pepper, right. And then, um, so I went to the nutritional person and she said, okay, so sometimes when you get on the table and we do the tests for the foods that you can eat, some of it comes up like the blood test says, but sometimes it doesn't Okay.

Speaker 3: 19:21

And so this time I just decided, whatever, I'm just going to, I'm going to do what she says. I'm just going to try it and see, because, you know, not eating tomatoes, garlic and onions is probably a huge, major problem for me, and I don't even know if I'm going to be able to make it. So she told me I could eat some things but I couldn't eat other things. And so I just went with it and I did what she said, because I'm watching her do, I'm in the body, right, she's doing the muscle testing and I'm clearly, clearly, my body says no to eggs, you know, like hardcore. And I'm like, okay, well, I guess you know that is my body, maybe I should listen to it.

Speaker 3: 19:52

And um, and I had pretty good luck, um, through that time. And I noticed too that like there would be times I would be taking some kind of supplement or something, and before the next time I saw her I'd be like, yeah, I don't think I want to take this thing. And it wasn't like a brain thing, it was more like a feeling where I was like I think I want to take some more of this and less of that. And every time I went she'd do the muscle testing. It would be dead on. So I was getting the information somehow.

Speaker 2: 20:21

And um, how long did you do this?

Speaker 3: 20:24

I actually did the nutrition response testing for about two years Wow.

Speaker 2: 20:31

Get a good goal.

Speaker 3: 20:33

Yeah, it took a long time and, honestly, it was like it felt like it was never going to be ending. I found somebody else who does something similar, but it's not it's not quite the same. You see still does muscle testing, and what I find, too, is like, um, I don't know, I don't know how long it's been a couple months or whatever but you know, I've got all these extra supplements I didn't finish. So, like I would sometimes go look at it and like, oh, I think I need this one, I'm going to take that one, like it's not going to hurt, right, and I'm not going to take a ton of it, but I'm just going to take it. And and the same thing would happen, are we going to him? And I'm like, okay, well, I was kind of taking this, what do you, what do you think? And then he would test me and I was like, oh, yeah, you should take that, um, but it's, it's been really interesting to kind of watch that happen, because it's actually, I'd say, the last, I don't know, three or four months.

Speaker 3: 21:20

For some reason I felt like I need to take something to help with my liver. Okay, and it's been a whole evolution. So I've had hypothyroid for more than 20 years. I actually have been on the Western medicine for that, which is like Synthroid, right For 20 years. So I it's been longer because I've not been taking it for two years. But and that's part of the reason, I did it for two years with her Cause we were kind of trying to fix everything so that I didn't actually have to take that.

Speaker 3: 21:47

But, um, anyways, uh, in the last you know, three or four months again, I get, I'm getting signals of a. Hey, you know, check with your liver. You know I'm going to get a. You know I'm going to get a. You know I'm going to get a. You know, take these supplements maybe, or whatever. And so then I start researching, sometimes like I'll get an idea, and then I'll look up oh, okay, what does the liver have to do, you know, in this particular situation? And and it turns out, yeah, the liver has a huge impact on thyroid function. And yeah, yeah, and I mean years and years ago, probably 15 years ago, I was told I had non-alcoholic fatty liver. Like well, I don't know what that comes from because I'm not doing any, you know, I didn't know, I didn't know anything, but most recently I actually had.

Speaker 3: 22:34

So I, sometimes I have like random pains, and sometimes they make sense as to why you'd have them and sometimes they don't. But this muscle testing stuff is amazing. So the new guy I go to goes to he does this thing called neuro emotional technique, which is muscle testing. Yes, okay, and and you've done it. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 3: 22:56

So you have something that you're concerned about, like, let's say, I had a pain in my foot, my right foot, and I'm like, okay, the pain's back. So it will come and go, like, okay, the pain's back in my foot. I don't know what it's from, but I've done the neuro emotional stuff. So I'm like, okay, if the pain is from something emotional, I'm ready to work on it because I'm tired of this crap. What about from the foot? What? What about Susan in the foot? I think on the last toe essentially, but not the toe itself, but like in the metatarsals, so higher in the foot. But it's still in that last, the last, the last or whatever Pop or bottom Pop, and I didn't even know. Okay. So you know, I feel it sometimes and what it felt like is if I was laying and my foot is on the side, it feels like my toes are kind of crunched, like maybe I had my foot between two boards and it was smashed. But it wasn't, I was just laying in the bed, okay.

Speaker 3: 23:55

So this time I noticed it started coming back because it would hurt when I get up and walk. I started coming back and I was like I don't know what that's about, but whatever. And I actually just picked my foot up to shut the drawer the bottom drawer of my dresser and I pushed on the side of my foot and I was like, oh, that really hurts, right. So I knew that I wasn't imagining this and he tested that. But there was another thing my elbow also got inflamed.

Speaker 2: 24:22

I didn't even say about that. I'm a reflexologist.

Speaker 3: 24:26

So what the neuromotional technique is? You do the muscle testing and if it's emotional, you do the work, and then he puts a magnet on your head and you hold it and it's some combination of this. I actually need to probably have him on the show. But the neuromotional thing is it says okay, it's connected to you know, most things are connected to money or relationships, or I don't know what he says, but he says like three or four things and you test and it's very clear Okay, it's this.

Speaker 3: 24:54

So this one was what was it? It was the emotion of, or something to do with frustration, dealing with immaturity with a person. Okay, so you're trying, he does the testing. He's like okay, there's a female in your life right now is causing you frustration related to this. Put that in a sentence. And so I put it in a sense okay, we're going to test for an original event. And then you test and I'm like I already first, you already know usually like, okay, I know where it comes from, or if you don't, they'll test for the age or whatever.

Speaker 3: 25:26

And so then, once you figure that out, you put the magnet wherever he tells you to put the magnet and then he goes on the meridian, okay, and he, the first time he did this I didn't know what he was doing, but the first time he did it I could see that he was about to push on my leg, on my thigh and right. Like literally a second and a half before he did that I thought, oh, I don't think I've ever told anybody. It kind of hurts there. I didn't say anything, I just let him do what he was going to do. So he just pushes on this meridian and it's a very good physical representation of feeling energy shift, because when he pushes and it's agitated or something's bothering with it, right, it hurts. That's the bottom line. He pushes and it hurts, okay. So for a long time I thought he was like pushing hard and, like you know, he would let up. No, he doesn't, he just pushes a normal amount and then the energy shifts and you can feel it go. And so sometimes, you know, I'll have me kind of focus on the emotion that's there, and so the magnet is helping to kind of reset the brainwaves. It would, yes, and then you're, you're causing that particular part of your brain to be activated, because you're activating pain, right, and so you're trying to think about whatever and the stuff works. It really works.

Speaker 3: 26:47

So this last time I went it was on the gallbladder and the liver meridian, so it already been taken liver supplements, right, thinking that I needed to do that, not on the direction of anybody. But and then this happens, and then I have this whole. It was an emotional thing. So I was like, okay, I get this emotion, I know what this comes from. And then we went on a trip and then I got triggered like you wouldn't believe, like I haven't had a trigger like that in over 10 years, and it was really strong.

Speaker 3: 27:18

And the more I think about it, I'm like this is like the. This is essentially what I've been asking for. Like I keep asking what is it? What is it? What is it Like? What do I need to know, you know? And here it is, coming at me with like a car and I'm walking on the street and the car is going to run to me. It's like that loud, right, and even so, much so that on the way here, right before we started talking. So the trigger that came out came came from my childhood family trips in a car with my older sister, my grandmother, my little sister and my mother.

Speaker 2: 27:56

Okay, A lot of women.

Speaker 3: 27:58

Yep, so the experience that I had was people who were not nice Not being told you're not being nice, stop being, stop being that way. But everybody was like dancing around them. If you weren't the person acting like that, everybody else was tiptoeing to try and avoid whatever. But I was like, okay, well, I'm going to say something about this. Well then, my mother didn't want to deal with them, so we would essentially, we would find a way to live with them like that, and that's what got triggered. But it was like I was in the car with a grandmother and children and was like, okay, I'm playing a different role, but it's the same thing, right? So it got pretty hard, had lots of reactions. I actually just wrote a blog on this today, but Eventually I figure out okay. So this is I finally figured, I think. So it causes anger within me. Anger is how do you know where?

Speaker 2: 29:08

In the liver.

Speaker 3: 29:09

In the liver. So not surprising that the liver is testing for help and then also that the meridians are blocked or whatever, and he's working on that and, yeah, not surprising at all.

Speaker 3: 29:22

And then I don't know through all of this I'm like okay, I think it's. I think it's that emotional experience that I had as a child that really kicked off this lack or this malfunctioning thyroid. So we're talking about young, young, yeah, okay, so that's. I'm convinced that and I haven't shared that with a whole lot of people, but I'm convinced that that has a huge impact on the thyroid, because you can't like I didn't feel like I could say anything that was heard, right, well, that's thyroid, that's your throat chakra, and there's anger involved. Yeah, so, even to that degree. And then I then, over coming over here today, I thought you know what, as a child, every single time we went on the trip, I always got sick.

Speaker 2: 30:10

Oh sure, why not? Because the other doesn't work.

Speaker 3: 30:15

Well, it was also. It was also even when I met my first husband. We went to Switzerland. So long trip, long flight. Right, I had been on a plane a couple of times, but I wound up throwing up on this plane ride, which was an international plane. It was horrible. It was like I hate throwing up, it was just a horrible experience. I do it like in the sea Hours hours.

Speaker 3: 30:38

And, as you know, you get dehydrated and just feel terrible but no fun. No, even as an adult here I am still getting sick. It's so much so that now when I travel, if I don't get sick, I'm like, ooh, something's good because I'm not sick, you know, and it's just, it became a joke with us as a family is like, well, we know Blair's going to get sick on the on the trip, but it's amazing how that all kind of comes out and and it makes your body talking to you. But it's hard to do.

Speaker 2: 31:07

I know, but it's learning its language. Yeah, you know, and it's. It's remarkable what we have for for cues and clues and language that isn't English and it it's. I'm in here and I just disregard, and her and she doesn't have any other way to get through to me except through some form of dis ease.

Speaker 1: 31:37

Yep, yeah.

Speaker 2: 31:39

And I'm like, because it's the only way she can reach me Now, I'm going to pay attention then.

Speaker 3: 31:45

Well, that's the ideas behind. So, julie Cannon's yeah, I saw Julie's Julie Cannon's book, but Dolores Cannon was her mother and she's the one who did the hypnosis stuff, the quantum healing hypnosis, which is what I started in, right? So her daughter was a nurse and she wrote this book called Soul Speak, which is very similar to Louise Hayes you Can Heal your Life very so. She just had her different way of describing it. But essentially that's what that. That's what the messages have been across the board from both her mother's sessions and also Julia's sessions and, I'm sure, other people where, essentially the part of the body, whatever function it does, that's the area in your life that you're looking at. So, like, if you've got vision problems and it's, you know, it has to do with you being willing to see what's going out there, right? Yeah, what's your foot problems? It has to do with what path you're walking, right? Like, what direction are you going in life? That kind of thing.

Speaker 2: 32:46

Yes, and when it's when you're going to deal with that little toe and that area you know you're going to deal with, how do you hear like why do you say that?

Speaker 3: 32:58

Is that reflexology?

Speaker 1: 32:59

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3: 33:00

What does it say?

Speaker 2: 33:02

Well, in the toes. The toes are all about the head.

Speaker 3: 33:07

Okay.

Speaker 2: 33:08

So anything that's going on in the head, the big toe is your whole head, okay, and in it are the, the zones. There's 10 zones and if, if, if, this area is coming down the nose in that area, if it, it would be your spinal area, okay. So you have your right side and left side, and and so the big toe is always about the head.

Speaker 2: 33:34

I mean the whole head and everything in there, everything a lot of brain and there's a lot of tissue and there's bone and there's nerves and all of this that that are there, but there's all that emotion that's registered there and given language to it. But your second two toes, right next to the big toe, those are going to deal with the eye area all the way through. Okay, so that's, you know, just coming Boom.

Speaker 2: 34:06

This coordinates with the meridians is Well, no, okay, I mean you could say that in that they they're, these are imaginary lines, the meridians aren't so imaginary, these are just more or less setting it up, so you kind of know where you are dealing with the toxins in the body and and that anywhere along that, that zone, that they're called zones rather than meridians, anywhere along that zone can be a blockage. And in that blockage, if you can relieve that and that's what I believe I do with reflexology, I relieve any of that congestion then it can flow freer to whatever is is in the. I mean, it might actually be in the eye, the physical, it might be in the eye, but it could be anywhere along that zone.

Speaker 3: 34:54

Oh, I see.

Speaker 2: 34:55

Okay, and so it might get stuck in the gut, it might get stuck in the knee, I mean it could be anywhere coming coming through, and then your last two toes deal with your, your hearing, so it'll be on the outside of your, your eyes, and and then the outside of your ears. So that's why I'd say, and then on the being that it's on the right, it's on the right side, you said it's on the right foot.

Speaker 2: 35:19

Yeah, Then you know, in Chinese medicine that's your masculine side, there's those, those things to connect with it too.

Speaker 3: 35:28

Oh, yeah, you know I've had a. It was a lady who does Reiki here. I went to her when I first got up here. I went to her and she was easy to access and she's good at what she does. But you know, I've had, so I've had shoulder issues in my right shoulder. I played volleyball but I I played volleyball but I I played volleyball, but I I played Before I even came up here. I had surgery on it for a torn labor, which I didn't know essentially was. Yeah, I had a.

Speaker 3: 35:56

I essentially had a chronic injury, something from overuse. I've since had an acute injury. That's like just amazing the difference when you've been dealing with chronic pain for so long and then you have this really intense injury that actually feels a little bit worse than the chronic injury and you're like, oh, it's like really depressing because you're like I don't know if I can handle this, you know. But then you go through the process and it's like, holy cow, my shoulder is better than it's ever been because you have that short timeframe for being acute. Anyway, she said that same thing too. She was like you know, but you got so many things wrong with you. It's like, you know, I can only take so much. Don't tell me like you've got a problem with your father, you've got a problem with your husband, you've got a problem with this, you got a problem like, okay, well, like, at what point can I just be?

Speaker 2: 36:47

Yeah, I think like like talking about these, these things that I'm doing with with her, with my body. First I paid attention because it was a drastic diagnosis and then then I decided that I will fast, and then I'll decide that I'll leave sugar behind and then I'll try this vegetarian oh well and long, and before that it was keto and whatever. I found that's effective. In every single one of these little pieces of the journey, I've been helped. I've been, and that's where I need to go. I need to because I do know that in those organs there is all manner of discussion going on in my body I know nothing about because I like to be in denial there.

Speaker 3: 37:44

Well, I think we, I think we teach essentially as humans I am. I kind of think that maybe Americans are worse, but I don't know, because I'm not an outside of American right. But I do think that at least our culture teaches us to kind of like blow it off, like okay, that's not a big deal, just just ignore it, it's fine, it'll go away, right? I mean, my mother's answer was you know, or pop a pill, right, there you go and so like with my kids, given my digestion and all the work that I've done, I'm like okay, let's really think about that. Why does it feel that way? What can you modify that would help you to feel better? And so, you know, I don't I really don't push pills on my kids, but sometimes, you know, sometimes you just have an issue, like I've got this terrible headache that I've tried all these different things to do and it's not worrying. Well, go ahead and take the pill because you need to sleep, and that's going to make it worse.

Speaker 2: 38:37

And it needs to be assisted. Yeah, and that's. That's a piece of it too. It's paying attention to what he or she needs.

Speaker 3: 38:45

Yeah, you know, I was actually listening to on the way back on our trip. I was listening to this book on channeling. This person is a doctor of noetic sciences. I've never even I don't really know what that is.

Speaker 2: 38:57

It sounds really interesting though, but I've read a little on the noetic. Okay, Again to get it.

Speaker 3: 39:05

Yeah. So anyways, this lady is one of those things that she in her book is. She's quite articulate and I was. I was actually like falling asleep listening to this, and I was.

Speaker 3: 39:13

I woke up and found myself laughing because she talks about essentially sensing energy, which we've talked a lot about, but sensing it in the body, physically in the body. And the reason I was laughing is because my daughter is I would describe her as very sensitive. She's very in tune with her body in the world, so like if somebody's yelling, she doesn't want to be there, unless it's a game that she's playing. You know, that's just not her thing. She just up and leaves and has always been that way. And you know, frankly, for a lot of people who are not kind of, they're not that way. It's sometimes. It's hard. I mean, I wasn't, I wasn't as sensitive as she was, but just listening to that stuff it just cracks me up because it all the things that she was listening, that could happen. I'm laughing at it because I experienced those things.

Speaker 3: 40:03

And you know, my husband is. He's able to hear me say like, oh, this hurts, oh, you know, like it hurts for 30 seconds, and so I might say something and you know he's like you're falling apart. You know you're younger than me and you're completely falling apart. You're not going to be old, you're not going to make it. I think it's really just me being sensitive and being aware of it. I don't think it's not like. It's not like. Okay, here's this condition where I got this. It's going to be a disease. You know the thing? In my foot. There's literally nobody who would be able to diagnose that, because even the doctor test it, he's like there's nothing wrong with your foot. You go put it in an x-ray, there's nothing wrong with it. Well, I'm telling you that it hurts. I know that it hurts. I'm not imagining this.

Speaker 2: 40:46

Right, but that hurt comes in goals.

Speaker 3: 40:49

Yeah, right.

Speaker 2: 40:51

So we're doing it emotionally too, to get it to respond to you, because that's how your body says I'm hurting. Take this thing to me, help me here, because that's what our bodies are doing. They report us 24, seven all the time, and they never complain. But when they do, they expect us to help them, and I've been a Jim dandy at just. I got other things to do. Excuse me, there's no time for this.

Speaker 3: 41:21

Well, that is kind of what our culture does, I mean, like, even if you look up certain conditions, right, like yeah, the most recent thing I looked up was perimenopause or something to that effect, right, and you look at the list of stuff and it's like, are you kidding me? Who has time for? This Well right, exactly. Who has time for that? But like this is why our society says, oh, I'm just getting old, like I just have to deal with my body falling apart. No, you don't.

Speaker 2: 41:49

Absolutely not, absolutely not, no, no way. And that's where I'm at is no way, yeah.

Speaker 3: 41:58

Well, that's the way I feel too. I mean, like, I just feel like you know it doesn't actually have to be that way. Especially since I've had a glimpse of the diet change making such a difference. I know that it's actually, it like doesn't actually have to be the way that we kind of accept it to be.

Speaker 2: 42:15

No, no, should we? Yeah, I, you know, I know a few people who's helped physical health and there's something with there's. There's something with certain bodies that probably come into this world and need to deal with their journey through a body that isn't physically strong. Yeah, that's different than the emotional makeup Not that the emotional it doesn't happen to it does, but it's going to risk. They're going to respond differently in their bodies than mine has had to. I mean, I've had a. I've had a lot of procedures and surgeries. They're all repair. Until two years ago, that that one was a healing that needed.

Speaker 3: 43:02

Oh, like you said you were, you have a strong, essentially what they call that.

Speaker 2: 43:06

I don't know. I call it peasant. I call it peasant.

Speaker 3: 43:12

Hard working yeah.

Speaker 2: 43:15

Yeah, and and I've been that isn't something I did. I'm right now appreciating her. Never, did, never, never, thought about it. Go get it repaired, go take care of it, you know, but I never thought about that, what that was doing to my body. Yeah, she just needed an assistance. Well, I gave it to. We got it done. Move on, don't think about it anymore. Yeah, when I look at that now, there's an appreciation and a sincerity in that that was never there before. You know, I wrong one.

Speaker 3: 43:57

I think my mother was one of those people like you say just like, okay, we'll just deal with it, partially because you didn't want to deal with what the doctors were telling her which was for her. Her experience was your overweight. All of your problems are because you're overweight. I've heard other people say this too, like I had a friend who I worked with and she's overweight, but she broke her foot and she broke her a bone in her foot getting up off the floor. Now, she's not young, okay, but she broke it. She felt it pop and thought, oh, I don't know she's about anything, but eventually she had to go get it put in a cast or something right, and she actually said that she realized that to me she was like I figured they would just tell me because I was fat.

Speaker 2: 44:39

You know that's been experience when seeing that to themselves. That's horrible.

Speaker 3: 44:47

It is. That's a horrible part of our medical system. What they do to people. I'm sure it happens to men too. But what I noticed as my mother aged is essentially she wasn't really willing to listen to anything anymore, like she had totally shut down in terms of listening to what a doctor. She didn't care what a doctor said. She just wanted to be able to survive and feel okay, and that was it. That's all she cared about. But what I have noticed is that the people who age better meaning they have a better experience both physically, mentally, emotionally is they essentially come to terms with what within their body needs attention and also coming to terms with how that affects your life, like like you're talking about somebody who's got a handicap or they've got a physical weakness right. They have to learn how to live life in a different way. It doesn't mean that it's less, it's just different.

Speaker 2: 45:44

I have someone that I'm spending some time with now whose body is extremely compromised and I believe that she has spent her whole life resenting her, resenting her body, being unkind to it and it's just can't pull it up, it just can't seem to support her in the way she would like to be and because she's older now she's having to give it the attention it's and she is, and she's coming to terms with a lot of those emotions that have gone into doing harm to her body. And she's recognizing it and trying to find a way to her body to bring some help. But in the process there she is dealing with a body that doesn't trust her. Oh, interesting, yeah, I mean it's. Basically her body just is shutting down in places because she wasn't, the body wasn't listened to and the body was in need, and she's recognizing that in herself. But what a long road there is.

Speaker 3: 47:02

Recognizing that she has had messages for a long time that she didn't respond Interesting. So I actually had. I don't know if he's going to be a client, because he's called me three, if not four times and, matter of fact, his wife messaged me, I think almost over a year ago, about getting hypnosis and so he made an appointment. He's got Parkinson's. But he made an appointment and he told me some stuff and then he called back a couple of days later. He went to talk some more and I actually just talked to him yesterday and he admitted he's 80, okay, but he admitted. So he's read some of Dolores's books and he understands this stuff intellectually.

Speaker 3: 47:43

But I think he's gotten to the point where he's like, okay, what if I get something in my hypnosis session that basically scares me? Or you know what if it's not going to help? And of course I talked to him about, like, how does it work? And you know, essentially you're not going to get anything that's going to scare you to death, because it's your higher self telling you that, right, I'm not going to show you something you can't handle, but also that it does in fact work and that you really only requirement is that you want to do that. We'll see if it happens. He's scheduled for Friday, so yeah.

Speaker 2: 48:15

I mean, there's all of those hoops for that person to jump. Yeah, yeah, yeah, was assist them in their process if they're ready, yeah, yeah, it's amazing I am. You know, like I said, the book is writing within me on, in my case, her and she. That being me, yeah, what I've always identified with being just me, it's bigger than that, it's more important than that, it's really more of the essence of what life really is here on this planet. Then I ever, ever, could appreciate before yeah, well, that sounds exciting.

Speaker 2: 48:56

I think it's fun. So in the meantime I've got all these little jobs I've popped through, and this is for the physical part. The emotional is yet to come to begin.

Speaker 3: 49:11

That's a whole nother ball game.

Speaker 2: 49:13

Yeah, but it's going to happen, because this journey that I see ahead of me is this mindfulness. I don't know where that's taking me, but it's what I've been prepared to do. It's prepared to follow, and I'll see you.

Speaker 3: 49:33

Exciting and I'll tell you that, especially in the last couple of weeks, like you know, I definitely feel like I have this. I don't know if there were his reserve, but like this, you know, I'm here to do this work. I'm going to, I'm going to figure it out. Like there's points of desperation that I've had with the thyroid where I'm just like I really want to fix this. I don't know what to do. I kind of feel defeated. And then it's like am I going to have to go back on the pill, like the Western medicine pill, because it makes it slightly better, doesn't heal, it Doesn't actually really make it better, but it makes it slightly better. And then that passes and I'm able to go on to the next thing. But there are moments where it's just like I don't even know if I can do this. It's hard.

Speaker 2: 50:18

Do I even want to?

Speaker 3: 50:19

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2: 50:21

Yeah, it is hard. But then when I stop and think about what else do I have to do in this life, I realize, oh, this might be one of the biggest challenges I have, that I'm to walk Because if I complete this part of the journey well, I won't be having to do it again.

Speaker 3: 50:43

Yeah, yeah, which is exciting. I'm out of baiting.

Speaker 1: 50:48

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