Healing Across Generations: Awakening Feminine Leadership & Transforming Family Trauma with Donna Wallace

Feeling that indescribable pull towards something greater, something deeply transformative? That's where Blaire Stanislao and Donna Wallace take you, exploring the seismic shifts as women ascend to leadership and humanity itself begins to stir from a long slumber. We embark on a journey of intergenerational healing, shedding the weight of limiting beliefs and cultural suppressions that have bound us for too long. It's not about assigning blame for the obstacles we face; it's about the liberation that comes with stepping into our authentic selves, guided by soulful intuition and the rising tide of feminine energy.

As we navigate the intricacies of family dynamics, we unlock the silent stories of generational trauma and the healing power of family constellation therapy. We're not just talking about concepts; we're sharing the visceral experience of emotional support and the palpable sensation of energy shifts that occur when we confront and resolve ancient familial wounds. This episode is a heart-to-heart on how healing these deep-seated patterns allows love and life force to flow more freely, impacting our families across generations and bringing profound healing to our collective consciousness.

Join us as we illuminate the paths of healing, empowerment, and the collective awakening that's reshaping how we live, love, and lead.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:01

Hello, this is Blair Stanislao with the Happy Lion Center. Welcome to our podcast, mystical and Infamous, where we have playful and easy conversations about anything mystical, getting to the heart of all things, strange and weird. Join us in a bit of magical tomfoolery, spreading the alchemy of love and light. And now we invite you to enjoy the show and link.

Speaker 2: 0:24

And now we invite you to enjoy the show. What's really on my heart is the wave, this new wave of humanity that's coming through and the women that are bringing it through, and that I've got goosebumps as I'm talking about that. I'm so excited about that, that opening up that women are feeling called. They know in their hearts they're meant to be leaving. They know in their hearts they're meant to be creating a new world with us, all of us together. There are so many of us doing it individually and yet we're all doing it together at the same time.

Speaker 2: 0:59

And what I'm really present to this morning is that cracking open, the cracking open of the paradigm that we're living in, but the cracking open of ourselves. And that cracking open to me is like the shell that's on the outside of us and our souls want to shine and radiate and they want to lead the way. And all the work that we're all doing together is like basically dismantling the shell. It's dismantling everything that gets in the way of us. Oh, I don't know if you can hear that cockatoo in the background, really loud.

Speaker 2: 1:35

The cock is like yeah, we call them cockies here, and Australian native birds that like screech and squawk and hang upside down in the trees playing. The work that we're doing is that it's everything that's in the way of ourselves to step into those leadership roles and we are dismantling centuries of culture, of suppression of ways of being in the world, of our family history, like we are doing that work where the buck stops with us, so we can basically heal that intergenerational timelines and the broader patriarchal system that we've all been brought up in, to be able to absolutely radiate and shine our light and have nothing in the way of inside of ourselves and everything that we've learned and taken on board as we've grown up in this world. So we can step into those leadership roles that we're meant to and really bring a new way of being into the world. And that's what's on my heart this morning, blair. I'm so, I'm so blessed that I get to work with so many women doing this work.

Speaker 2: 2:49

So many women know that they're meant to be in a heart-centered leadership role in some way, shape or form. They know they're bringing through something new to this world and it really is about how quickly can we get all of that shell cracked open, how quickly can we get all of that healing work done on the inside of us. So we're not left with those questions of maybe I'm not good enough, or I'm unlovable, or um, what are the myriads of other things like I'm not worthy of this, or I don't deserve it, or maybe why I can't create this thing in my life is because of me. No, none of that is true, and the healing work that I do is really about getting all of that out of the way. So you're left with your pure essence of your soul and what's in your heart and soul, and letting that lead the way, letting your intuition lead the way.

Speaker 1: 3:49

So another way that I've heard that described and I hear it described in like I mean, it comes out of all different kinds of people's mouths but it is really going into this kind of like approaching life from a feeling perspective, which is very much not what a lot of cultures do, you know. They're very action oriented, they're very I've got to do these things because this is what's expected, that kind of thing, but feeling your way through it, which is the feminine energy right it is. And you said something that kind of I don't know it, just I think we should address it. I don't know it, just, I think we should address it. So I just saw just a moment ago I see it all the time, I even like see it in people. I have a friend who was doing this yes, I think it was well, it was Friday, and you said something about that, but I don't think it's quite the same.

Speaker 1: 4:40

So oftentimes we have subconscious belief or patterns or whatever you want to call it, but basically there's something that's there. That's that, essentially, is in fact causing you a problem moving forward with whatever it is you want to do. So what you're talking about the shell is breaking that, releasing it, allowing it to dissipate or disappear right, breaking that. Releasing it, allowing it to dissipate or disappear, right, okay. And then somehow you said something about. You know, one of these pieces of the shell is believing that we are the ones getting in the way of that success. So my question is when we have those beliefs, they do get in the way, so in a way, we are kind of in our own way. But what do you mean more specifically about that? Cause you're saying not only it sounds like you're saying not only, let go of whatever the belief is that's holding you back, that is yours, right, that is your possession, it's something that you do right, but also releasing the idea that you're the one. That's the problem. Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 2: 5:50

yeah, both. Yep, I'm saying both. I'm saying the two opposite things at the same time in some ways, right. So what I'm saying is the such a good question, blair? Yeah, so let's into this.

Speaker 2: 6:07

The things that are in our way are like the programming and the things that we've decided about ourselves, that we've. It's almost like, you know, when you're a little kid and something outside in the world happens, like maybe your parents lit up and you think that it's like your fault, right, and so then you're not good enough, or you're not worthy enough, or you're not whatever X, y, z enough because your parents didn't stay together. It's these tiny little decisions that we make, that we, then, which is based on a feeling, blair, like you were saying. It's a feeling, informed belief, right so, but it was from when we were a child. And then we grow up and we've accumulated all of these different feelings that have turned into beliefs and we're kind of stuck in these patterns. And we're stuck in the patterns not only from our own upbringing but from what's sitting in our family system, as well as patterns, and so, yeah, the healing work is about releasing all of the stuff, of the things that we're in our own way and yet it's also doing the healing work to understand that actually so much of it doesn't belong to you like so much of what's in your own way, isn't you?

Speaker 2: 7:18

So much of what's in your own way is hidden in the background. It's things that are out of plain sight, hidden, but in plain sight. How does that saying go, blair, I always have a donorism somewhere, blair and I make up an analogy or adjust it somehow and never get it right. But it's those things. There are things that are hidden in within us, within our worlds, that are actually quite obvious when someone points them out. But, like, there are two things yes, we do the inner work and then, once we do the inner work, we do so much healing to realize a hell of it is not about ourselves. So much of it is not about ourselves. And yeah, yeah does that answer your question.

Speaker 1: 8:01

It does um it up.

Speaker 1: 8:03

So I know that there's an enormous cause.

Speaker 1: 8:06

I've done some of this stuff right, like I'm sure I still have more to do, but I can remember one specific time I was doing work actually with Adrian and I was honestly trying to prepare for my mother's death, her passing, okay, and the reason I was trying to prepare for that is because my husband had died several years before and I was an utter mess, like I don't think I could physically go through that again.

Speaker 1: 8:31

And here I am thinking it's my mother. I've literally never lived without her, okay, so I don't want to go through that again. So we were working on some pretty heavy things and it finally occurred to me because she asked as a healer does she just asked some questions that had never been brought to light, not that they didn't exist or the answers didn't exist, but it just came up and she asked me early, early, I think the first phone call I had with her, because it was really the feeling was more about my husband, like I didn't want to experience that again when my mother died not necessarily, that I was dealing with my mother right then.

Speaker 1: 9:12

And so it was. The questions were for how many women in your family did the husband die first? Okay, I've never even thought about that. So we go along the healing journey and I just got married last summer and I had just we had just had our conversation where I said I want to marry you, I know it. So, whatever you want to do, you know. And so I knew that it was going to be a thing like it really was coming into fruition.

Speaker 1: 9:38

And I can remember I think I was outside shoveling snow or something, and I thought to myself, okay, shoveling snow or something. And I thought to myself okay, this is going to happen. Now I need to start worrying about him dying. And then I thought to myself why do I? Why am I the one Right? And then I started to think you know my, my mother, just the phrases that my mother and my grandmother and all of them, they say that it's not even, like you know, one major event. I mean, of course, death is a major event, but it wasn't that. It was like every time you turn around. Well, you need to behave like this because, basically, we can't count on the men. Well, we need to do this because you can't count on them to be. You know what I'm saying, and it finally occurred to me that, yeah, no, that was not mine, I did not need that anymore, and that's a conscious experience of it I'm sure you had. Maybe you can articulate more of an energetic experience of it.

Speaker 2: 10:34

Yeah, so from an energetic perspective, I have a number of clients who have like similar sort of patterns or things like. I would describe it from a family constellation therapy perspective as people in the family system moving towards death at a young age. So in one of my client's families it was all the men like you're saying, blair, and when I asked her about this, so her brother died at a young age in a tragic car accident. Some of the other there were a series of people that had either tried to commit suicide or had thought about committing suicide. There was, there can be, this movement in, from an energetic perspective, of souls moving towards death, and that pattern is something that happens over and over and over again. And from a place of you know, when souls are born into a family system, they can feel if there's something amiss, so if there's unprocessed trauma or if there is something that is not quite right, often that soul coming in will try and replay the same pattern out of love and loyalty to the family, to try and resolve it. And so there, from that perspective, you actually have this pattern of the same things happening over and over again, which is very similar to what you're talking about, blair, and so what happened was way back when there was some sort of trauma that happened of someone dying at a young age. That was never processed properly by the family members, it was never healed properly, and so then it created this repeating pattern.

Speaker 2: 12:18

What we do in family constellation therapy from an energetic perspective is figure out like basically release the trauma for all of the souls in the family system who have experienced that, and we figure out where the trauma came from and we help heal that, and then we release it from everyone in there in in that whole family, which includes future generations. And it includes obviously healing back through the timeline for all of the people who've already experienced either death at a young age or have been impacted by it. And it's big stuff, right, claire, like it is big stuff. The work that we do impacts, you know, whether our male children, for instance, whether our sons, are going to die at a young age. I'm so passionate about this because it has such a profound impact on everyone else. That's to come and that's why so many of us are doing the work. Right is to be.

Speaker 2: 13:13

You know, we're often the black sheep of the family, as it happens, but then here we are the ones stopping. You know the buck stops with us. This is not going to be a continuing pattern anymore and we all choose to do that healing, so the rest of the family is released from it. But not only that. Not only that, but also, when that happens, there's an increase in the flow of love in the family system, an increase in the flow of lifeless energy, and you can actually get the blessings from all of your ancestors and the support from all of your ancestors to go out and create something very different in your life. So that means that not only are you now not bound to that inevitable pattern that was in your family, but you now have the support behind you to create something very different in your life and therefore future generations. So yeah, from an energetic perspective, we do that work in the family system.

Speaker 1: 14:09

So I'm going to ask you I'd like you to, if you don't mind, because I know you can do this really well. I recently, last week, I had a meditation where I what was brought to light was this sensation. It was like it was sort of a visualization, but it wasn't really. It was an understanding of knowing. I think more concretely about moving energy. Now, energy workers understand this in ways that maybe some other people don't always understand it, but it's because it's to me.

Speaker 1: 14:50

It's a little bit elusive to understand exactly how the energy works.

Speaker 1: 14:54

You can see the outcome in the physical realm and you can sense the energy, but we're only experiencing ourselves here, right, so we can't be in somebody else's body and experience what they're experiencing.

Speaker 1: 15:05

So what I'd like to do is spend a little bit of time essentially trying to explain what that, what it means to be moving energy like that. Right, it doesn't really matter how we're doing it, but what does it really mean to be moving energy? And what it makes me think of, especially with this conversation, is, like you're saying, when you do like you said, process certain emotions or certain events, you just get this immense feeling of love and the support that you're talking about really comes through as a feeling. It's not a mental thing, it's not something that you can correct, something carried down the road, but it's something that's with you, no matter what. It's almost like the idea of you know if somebody's being attacked, well they, there's certain things they can't take from you, and this would be one of those things. So can you speak to. Yeah, what it? What it might feel like to somebody, or how they might see it, or something to kind of articulate what it really means to move that kind of energy.

Speaker 2: 16:12

I know what this means because I felt it so many times myself and I've seen it in my clients, and my clients have told me what they feel it and how they experience it. But I also know because when I'm with my clients, I'm feeling what they're feeling, so I know exactly what is going on too, and so when they say it, I'm like mm-hmm, yep, but often what people feel is this sense of like heaviness or burden that's been lifted off their shoulders, sometimes off their chest, and there's a feeling of lightness that comes and it's a physical experience, like it's energy, yes, but it's a physical body experience too. And then people often tell me don't know, oh my gosh, I just feel so relieved and their body just goes, you know, like this, like nervous system relaxing, like liquid, warm, liquid, honey. You know like their body just whoa, and it's so beautiful. And then I can see their breath, like their breath deepens and there's this physical response of they just feel at ease and more relaxed and just somehow better. You know, and you're right, blair, one of the other things that happens is that people feel really loved, like I'm not talking about oh yeah, I know I love this person. I'm talking about the kind of love that turns your world upside down, because it's the kind of love that you've never experienced like that. It is pure, unconditional love that often people have yet never had. I've had clients sitting there absolutely bawling their eyes out just because of how amazing it feels to finally have the love that they've always yearned for and never got.

Speaker 2: 17:53

So when we talk about it as a feeling, as an experience, as a body sensation, but it is, it is everything. To me it's everything, Blair, because I believe, like our emotions are our gateway to our soul, but also the quality of our life depends on our feelings. You know how we feel about everything either amplifies our life or it detracts from it. It's either our Achilles heel or the wind beneath our wings, and so when our emotions and our energy is not in check or regulated, or when we're feeling pretty average and we're sad or depressed or anxious or scared or all of those things, and we don't know how to take that into a different place, like that is your Achilles heel, that is a really average experience of what life is. And when you move that with energy, like when you move energy and you have that healing, you're also moving your emotions. Your emotions become regulated and grounded and you don't need to go on the highest highs and lowest lows.

Speaker 2: 19:10

I rode that roller coaster for a while, blair, and it was not fun, you know. It was kind of even in the high. It wasn't fun because you knew you were going to go to the low anyway, you know. But being able to move energy and actually have the experience of like, for instance, that love that you've always yearned for, it's priceless. It is priceless to know how to feel like, know, like. You know in your body, you know, not head. No, it is priceless to know and feel and get how loved you are.

Speaker 1: 19:46

It is something else yeah, uh, initially my third first thought, as the person who does a lot of energy work and actually I got told this today somebody was channeling for me and they were actually saying I needed to basically take care of myself more, like take care of my physical body more, and it wasn't like specifically, you know, do something particular, it was this. All this energy that I'm moving, it does have, has it have an effect on the body and, like I'm basically I'm not letting the body acclimate, and I think that would align with what you're talking about is such big energy shifts that for some people who are sensitive, it does. When you have a big shift, it really does turn into a physical experience. Now, what that physical experience is?

Speaker 2: 20:39

totally unique, right very, very unique, and you're right, this is. You know we're talking about energy and emotional healing, but actually it's body work that is another name for it and we don't really talk about it like that. But our bodies need to process it. Our bodies get to catch up, our bodies get to have the experience of being like that too, and so what I say with my clients is how quickly they can move through the healing program with me is dependent upon how much their bodies often need to process. And so, you know, sometimes you get sick and I'm like, and my clients are like, can we do some energy work to help me get better quicker? And I'm like you were to help me get better quicker, and I'm like you can have all the light and the healing energy and your body is so intelligent, let it do its thing, you know, yeah, so yeah, it's a.

Speaker 2: 21:41

Why I love doing this kind of work is because how good does it feel to have a calm belly like? How good does it feel to have an open, calm belly and peace of mind and relaxed in your body, like it feels amazing. It feels amazing to have space. It feels amazing to have, yeah, like, openness within your body where you can see all this beauty around you and take it in, like right now. I can hear the birds in the background and I'm in heaven. You know, and to me, when we do this energy and emotional healing work, it gives you access to that. It gives you access to heaven on earth rather than hell on earth, which is what um emotions that are all over the shop are giving you okay.

Speaker 1: 22:33

So I want to go back to the leadership topic because that's really interesting. Um, I always get like little goosebumps and get really excited when I see a woman leading in a way that's so feminine and yet functions in the world and so forth. But it's interesting to me. I mean, I think I I also read an article somewhere I don't know where it was, but somewhere online just taking note of the countries that were led by women during covid and how they the country itself like as a, how it responded differently than other countries that were led by men and specifically in a very masculine energy.

Speaker 1: 23:13

So my question is for for those people who are these women who are are feeling the push and the drive to do exactly what you're talking about here. What have you found with your clients or just in general, that helps them to kind of transition from maybe not taking quite as much of a leadership role to more stepping, more into their own power? Is it like one? Can you kind of describe how it works or is it so unique that it's you can't really do that?

Speaker 2: 23:51

it is very unique and the theme that I see for women doing this. Um Blair, you know that I'm clairvoyant and I can see colors in people's energy fields. Often not all the time, but often when I see the women who are on this whole path, I can often see a pale coral color around them and that when I see pale coral around women I get really excited because I'm like, oh my, here we go like, and I'm like on the edge of my seat like who are you and what are you doing? Tell me everything. But pale coral to me is that divine feminine leadership is the new way, that new wave of humanity that wants to come through.

Speaker 2: 24:36

But often what sits behind that is some significant for want of a better word because it's used so much trauma. You know, there's often some sort of experience that that woman has had that is like a break in the in her life path, in the trajectory that she was going in. Something happened and it was connected to her feminine self in some way, shape or form. Now, maybe that was sexual abuse, maybe that was difficulty with some aspect around motherhood. It could have been with their own mother, it could be as a mother themselves. It might be being able to have, not being able to have children. It might have been having children for some way. You know for something it might be not being able to have children. It might have been having children for some way. You know for something it might be losing children.

Speaker 2: 25:31

But there can often be this hidden not hidden because it's been part of their lives, but like background of something significant happening to them that's connected to the feminine. When that healing happens around that, it's almost like they are free and liberated. It's like all of a sudden they get to spread their big angel wings and, like you know, move into this other space that is not bound by anything in the past. They're informed by it, they have the wisdom that sits with them from it, and it's not just the trauma that they've gone through and the risk, it's the goal, like they get the wisdom and the gold from everything that they've been through personally, but somehow they're liberated from all the other stuff that we're talking about earlier, which is the patriarchy and capitalism and you know, all of the different cultural things that we've also been informed about. These women that are doing this work, they're educated women, they know exactly what is going on in the world and they know that they have a role that they're meant to play to bring something else through, and I love that.

Speaker 2: 26:46

I love the courage that that takes. I love that they're a breath of fresh air, because usually they're also bringing through something quite unique, and it just makes me so excited. Blair, yes, please, can you all do more of this?

Speaker 1: 27:07

Do you find that they, they so you're talking about healing the feminine do you find that they also need to deal with the masculine side? Or I guess my question is, do you find that they kind of struggle because I would say the world as a whole, most, most places in the world anyways, they do kind of approach the public or outward life from a masculine point of view. So once they heal that feminine, what happens to them, the, the masculine way that they approach things? Does that become in more balance? Does it, you know? Do they know how to shift, like how does that work?

Speaker 2: 27:45

yeah, it becomes more balanced. It's not denying the masculine parts of ourselves. My goodness, we need those parts of ourselves. We need to get up and go. We need the got to get, got to make things happen. Parts of ourselves. We need structure and we also need boundaries and we need to become an authority within ourselves.

Speaker 2: 28:02

There is a real maturing that happens on the inside, and often that is an emotional growing up on the inside, and it's like doing that healing work brings everything more into balance. So you bring on board all the masculine parts of yourself, all the feminine parts of yourself, and you find that you know there's never any balance as such is there, but, like you, you integrate all these parts of yourself more. So you just like okay, here, I am All right. So what are we going to do now? No, the other part that I wanted to share actually, blair, which I didn't before was that this new wave of women that are coming through are often all about community. They're the bigger picture. There is something that they're passionate about that is not just about them. It is community, bigger, like broader consciousness, kind of stuff can you speak to?

Speaker 1: 29:03

uh, maybe some examples of Can you speak to, maybe some examples of what it's like to? What I'm trying to do here is pull out some examples or some information that tells people what it feels like to heal a feminine.

Speaker 2: 29:26

I can tell you my own personal experience. Oh, I could just feel myself dropping really deeply. So just bear with me there as I like let my heart open up even more with you. To me, healing the feminine means that I have really good, healthy boundaries. I'm very strong in myself in ways that I never was before. I'm very clear, like I have clarity, and I'm not afraid to say no, like over and over again, and I'm also not afraid to say yes. I'm not afraid to go for things. Don't hold myself back anymore.

Speaker 2: 30:13

Healing of the feminine for me means that I embrace who I am as a unique individual, much, much more. You know, I'm the. I'm okay with being like. I'm okay with being the mom walking on the dog beach with no makeup on and my dirty trackies on. You know, I'm okay with that. I'm also okay with the version of me who can show up and share this sort of content with the world. I'm not afraid to be myself and I don't really care about what anyone thinks. You know, there's this layer of like having to perform. That's disappeared for me as I've healed my feminine Like. I don't care to perform anymore. What you see is what you get, and if you want to jump on board the Donna train?

Speaker 2: 31:01

we're going to have a lot of fun you know, but from an inside perspective, healing the feminine has mean that I've released all the pain. I have released so much pain that's been inflicted on me and the pattern of pain where I was repeatedly inflicting pain on myself and that that part where I was like causing myself so much damage by the way that I was talking to myself, by the way that I my relationship with myself and and when I look back at my life, I see that you know, from some of the abuse that I've experienced, what I got used to was that I was meant to be treated like that and then I treated myself like that. So all of that pain, whether it was external or internal, has all gone. Like I don't have that anymore. I've just got so much more. Like I've got this gentle space in my heart that's like I'm so filled with love.

Speaker 1: 32:16

And so to me it's liberation, yeah, and a relaxing and like, yeah, you said this before, it's not, I mean, they do. There are words that we use all the time but it's a relaxing into it, it's a release. It's like you've got all this luggage in your arm, you've been walking around you just let it go and then you realize all of a sudden I don't have have to have this. You know, I've said for a long time I don't want this. Now I really know I don't have to have it and all I have to do is just let go of it.

Speaker 2: 32:38

Yeah, and it's gone. Yeah, and that's the other thing. Like you know, one of the things that really frustrates me, blair, is in our industry, is when you do healing work and then they're like oh, and then the same thing pops up again six months later and they're like oh, it's another layer of the onion. No, no, no. Like healing work gets to work, so it actually gets released and you don't ever think about that again, yeah. So, for instance, like you get to feel safe, you get to be in a place of trust and all the stuff that's not. That gets to go. It gets to be released, it gets to be gone and it gets to be something that you just don't even think about.

Speaker 1: 33:21

Yeah, I think that I know what you're talking about there, cause we hear that all the time. And now, now you have stuff to work on too, right, like it's not, like I just have one thing to work on and then I'm done right, but it's a different thing. It's like a different heart wall. So what you're talking about is that total and complete relaxation. I would describe it, and I can't say I experience it all the time, but there are certainly very distinct times, especially when they're really high tension, where you're experiencing this thing, experience it, and then you do the work and then you release it. It's like you don't even, like you said, you don't even have to think about it. It is a no. Go Like it's completely gone. It doesn't even enter your brain space at all. Go like it's completely gone. It doesn't even enter your brain space at all. Um, doesn't, it doesn't seem to even enter enter your energetic field. Other than a lesson that came from that exactly.

Speaker 2: 34:15

So then what you're left with is the gold, it's the wisdom. That's what you get left with.

Speaker 1: 34:21

Yeah, so how would you apply this to men? Because I it's funny you described it just like that because literally yesterday I was with my new husband's family. My children and I were with them and they were talking. They were just casually talking about how they like to keep a house, like housekeeping kind of stuff, and they have a very different approach than I have.

Speaker 1: 34:50

And my two children were sitting there and they were just kind of casually talking and what I was hearing was which I already knew a lot of this right, but there was a lot of critique from one person and then the other person, instead of critiquing like that, turned around and critiqued another way and the younger generations were like, oh, I finally realized it's really not that big of a deal, you know, and just let it go because I have a good roommate or whatever. And it's funny because coming into this family as coming from a totally different perspective, it's, it's just really enlightening. But it's a perfect example of one generation, like you said, starts with some sort of judgment or critique and then that becomes the next generation's automatic thinking, and they're doing that all the time, and that happens to men too. So my question is yeah, it does. How is there anything that you would share that um might help men to resonate with this kind of healing?

Speaker 2: 35:56

so I actually work with men as well, I don't just work with women. So I know that we're talking about women. Um, I love working with women and I love working with men. What happens to me, for me, is almost like when I do healing work with men, we're kind of doing some of the same stuff. It's unpacking the patriarchy, it's unpacking capitalism, it's unpacking everything that's informed them of what a inverted commas man is meant to be, and so we need to, like, do all of that for the men too.

Speaker 2: 36:35

You know, we've got beautiful men in our society that want to be heart-centered, that are getting used by this old paradigm of that.

Speaker 2: 36:44

They need to show up and be a manly man or this, or, like you know no emotions, or you have to be very successful and make a lot of money to be any worth to your family or your community, or like to be seen as making it.

Speaker 2: 36:57

You know, like there's all of these things that are placed on men's shoulders too. That hasn't been really disconnected, and so the work that I do with men is around coming back, coming back to who they truly are, becoming emotionally connected again, tapping into their intuition, figuring out what, if we are changing this paradigm of patriarchy, then what I'm really talking about is moving to a matriarchal paradigm, right? So what is a man's role in the world of matriarchy? Yes, when they are so programmed to be in a patriarchal, like everything about them that they've been told is that they have to show up and be a certain way, that means that they're in control. They're in control of women, they're in control of their work, they're in control of, you know, whoever can be more dominant in their friendship groups, or the winners, like there is this overpower, overpower under thing that they are getting used by so much yeah it's rife.

Speaker 2: 38:04

And so then, how do you, when you've got a woman who's moving into this space of like owning her own power and really being very clear that she's a leader, how do you then marry that up in a relationship like how does then, what role does that man have when now, all of a sudden, that woman's stepping up? So the healing work that gets to be done for the man is really like connecting with their emotions, dismantling all of the trauma that they've been through too, because they're getting inflict, like being inflicted with pain in different ways.

Speaker 1: 38:39

Wow, yes it's not really.

Speaker 2: 38:41

Even they're being told that they're meant to control and be powerful, like powerful as in like power over other people, and so it's about dismantling that for them. It's about the impact that that's had on them, their inability to be their true selves, and so once we start opening that up, it's really deep, it can be really deep emotional stuff. It also means that what has happened for them is they've been so busy trying to be the inverted commas man that they think they're meant to. They've become emotionally disconnected, because how can you have both? And then they can't absorb all of the goodness that's already in front of them.

Speaker 2: 39:26

I often work with men who are dads, so they've got, you know, children, and they're unable to absorb all of the love that these beautiful, sensitive little beings are like trying to give them, and also who are pushing their buttons, trying to activate them too, by the way. But you know that's a story for another day, isn't it, blair? But that's the thing. Like they've got all an amazing life around them, but they can't access that love. And so here we are, commonalities of men and women. You know that's what we're all doing. We're all doing that healing work so we can access the love at the end of the day, so we can become our true selves, access the love at the end of the day, so we can become our true selves.

Speaker 1: 40:09

So what is it that you think is happening overall in societies like the world is what I'm asking. What do you think is going to happen as we go into the more matriarch matriarchy versus the patriarchy, like? How do you see things changing in the world?

Speaker 2: 40:29

I see at this point, at this point where we are, I see that there's a lot more like smaller uprisings of women and I think that that is a challenging like. That could be, like there could be like a bit of grappling with that right, like some men won't like that and some will try and stop that, squash that, suppress that. Other men will be supportive of that because they know in their hearts like we are meant to be, you know, in the fullest expression of ourselves, and we also enable that in our men too. So I feel like I feel like there is an uprising of women, of leaders, and I think that that might create some unrest and I also think that it's going to happen. I think that it's inevitable.

Speaker 2: 41:19

I think that this is our next evolution, which is a heart-based way of living. Which is a heart-based way of living, and there are too many people that care. There are too many people that care about all of these wars, about all of these children dying, about all of this famine, about all of this poverty. There are so many people that care and I think that it's really easy to get disheartened by seeing things in the media and thinking this world has gone to absolute rubbish. I don't think that that's the case. I do think that there's going to be some like turbulence as women step up and step forward more, and I hope that men I hope that that also enables men to become really amazing leaders too. It's not to the exclusion of men, because, as I said, I love men and I think they're amazing. You know, we've all got the work to do so we can all be, yeah, making a difference in the world.

Speaker 1: 42:21

So really what you're saying essentially is not we do it on an individual basis, but really it's healing the feminine as a whole, throughout humanity is really what's going to make the big shift.

Speaker 1: 42:31

And as you're describing that, it just reminds me of people like Mother Teresa or you know like, because a lot of times in this spiritual work you have people come in and they they're aggravated and they say all this stuff, they tell you the story that goes with it and for me I often am thinking, wow, I have, I mean like I can understand what they're saying.

Speaker 1: 42:51

But then I'm thinking like the structure of how this all works and how to solve this has to be looked at from a totally different perspective, very similar to, you know, essentially Einstein's idea of saying you can't solve the problem with the same thinking that caused it, right. So it's like a shift in the approach, even as we're going, which would happen naturally, right, you're healing the feminine and it like kind of automatically knows people know how to adjust. That's just an entirely different way and it kind of easily eliminates a lot of the problems that are caused from the different way and it kind of easily eliminates a lot of the problems that are caused from the other way of approaching things yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 43:39

I think that you know on a, there are so many people doing this in broader community and there are so many women individually stepping up and when I see that community of women which I am exposed to through my beautiful clients and also, you know, in podcasting interviews like this, blair, like we get to connect and there is that soul knowing with each other, there is a familiarity, that soul knowing with each other, there is a familiarity that we have with each other. You know, I said to you, like you know, there was a real familiarity when I first had connected with you, blair, and like we know, we know it's you could describe it as soul family, but we know, because we recognize each other in that way, in that unconscious going back to feeling way, yeah, Beautiful.

Speaker 1: 44:33

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