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Nasaan Talks Blending Atlanta & Detroit Influences, Fashion Inspired by Pharrell, Joe Budden's "Artsy" Label, & Promoting Era 404!

June 19, 2024 Nyla Symone
Nasaan Talks Blending Atlanta & Detroit Influences, Fashion Inspired by Pharrell, Joe Budden's "Artsy" Label, & Promoting Era 404!
WNTTLK (We Need To Talk)
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WNTTLK (We Need To Talk)
Nasaan Talks Blending Atlanta & Detroit Influences, Fashion Inspired by Pharrell, Joe Budden's "Artsy" Label, & Promoting Era 404!
Jun 19, 2024
Nyla Symone

Ever wondered how a Southern kid with roots in both Atlanta and Detroit could challenge the traditional rapper mold? Today on "We Need to Talk," we sit down with the multi-talented Nasaan, who shares his fascinating journey from being an army brat to becoming an artist with a unique flair. Nasaan opens up about his eclectic fashion choices influenced by Pharrell and his intentional efforts to shatter typical rapper stereotypes. Plus, don't miss his amusing recount of a conversation with Joe Budden, who labeled him as "artsy."

Nasaan goes on to reveal how Atlanta's vibrant music scene and icons like Future, Young Thug, and Outkast played a critical role in shaping his sound. He shares the impact of attending high school with notable names like Lil Yachty and Lil Nas X, and how blending regional influences from Atlanta and Detroit adds depth to his music. Nassan also discusses his rise within Detroit's burgeoning music production scene, driven by a love for creative expression and validation from peers.

Finally, Nasaan takes us on a personal journey of self-discovery and artistic evolution. He talks candidly about taking a break from music to find his true identity, and how that led to his creative resurgence. Hear about his innovative approaches to shooting and editing his own music videos on a budget, the lessons learned from audience perceptions, and the backlash from a controversial video. We wrap up with a lively chat on astrology, personal memories, and the thrill of promoting his upcoming project, Era 404. This episode is packed with insightful stories, creative tips, and genuine moments you won't want to miss.

Talk Soon! ✌🏾

Stay connected! Follow @wnttlk on all platforms.

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Ever wondered how a Southern kid with roots in both Atlanta and Detroit could challenge the traditional rapper mold? Today on "We Need to Talk," we sit down with the multi-talented Nasaan, who shares his fascinating journey from being an army brat to becoming an artist with a unique flair. Nasaan opens up about his eclectic fashion choices influenced by Pharrell and his intentional efforts to shatter typical rapper stereotypes. Plus, don't miss his amusing recount of a conversation with Joe Budden, who labeled him as "artsy."

Nasaan goes on to reveal how Atlanta's vibrant music scene and icons like Future, Young Thug, and Outkast played a critical role in shaping his sound. He shares the impact of attending high school with notable names like Lil Yachty and Lil Nas X, and how blending regional influences from Atlanta and Detroit adds depth to his music. Nassan also discusses his rise within Detroit's burgeoning music production scene, driven by a love for creative expression and validation from peers.

Finally, Nasaan takes us on a personal journey of self-discovery and artistic evolution. He talks candidly about taking a break from music to find his true identity, and how that led to his creative resurgence. Hear about his innovative approaches to shooting and editing his own music videos on a budget, the lessons learned from audience perceptions, and the backlash from a controversial video. We wrap up with a lively chat on astrology, personal memories, and the thrill of promoting his upcoming project, Era 404. This episode is packed with insightful stories, creative tips, and genuine moments you won't want to miss.

Talk Soon! ✌🏾

Stay connected! Follow @wnttlk on all platforms.

Speaker 1:

Project is inspired by a show called Severance. I watch Entourage and now I'm kind of like going to a phase I'm not just a movie actor, so it's going to be like a real boom. It's going to be Hollywood. Okay, yeah, that is cool.

Speaker 2:

Do you mind if I take?

Speaker 1:

this to your sweater? No, not Entourage.

Speaker 2:

That's such a guy show, I love Entourage.

Speaker 1:

It's such a guy show my brother be watching that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, he made me watch this. It had a movie, right? Yeah, it did the movie's trash, though the movie was trash, yeah.

Speaker 1:

That was my introduction to it. Yeah, and then he told me to go back in.

Speaker 2:

Ah, you can't even. The movie won't even make sense without you even watching the show.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you can put this in your right pocket, because he was a key kid and I'm just like ah, I don't think I get this.

Speaker 2:

No, that's what I was amazed at. I'm going to get one more piece.

Speaker 1:

You said you couldn't tell it dropped last time, though right, that's pretty good. Yeah, it's like a big spoon. Just make sure it's not making any noise with your records, alright Tiktok.

Speaker 2:

Tiktok. No pressure, it'll only be like ten people yeah.

Speaker 1:

Do you know how to get into?

Speaker 2:

the cord. It's the big black magic. Yeah, you from Atlanta, oh type shit Like I grew up there. Yeah, I think so, but then, like I think so I like You're an avaretta.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no, oh, that's hilarious. No, I think so, but Detroit, be like. It's like they claim me so hard. I feel like you know what I'm saying. Like I got to say I'm from there. I have to, I'm rooted there in a way. So you're rooted in Atlanta. No, you're rooted in Detroit. Detroit Grew up in Atlanta, though Okay, yeah, I know more shit about Atlanta, though you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Detroit, yeah, interesting Are. We did we start, we did Okay, cool, all right, and then sorry.

Speaker 2:

Oh fine, oh, thank you.

Speaker 1:

Yep, all right, cool. What's going on, guys? N Simone here with another episode of we need to talk, and today I got a very special guest. I got Nassan in the building. How are you?

Speaker 2:

I'm good. How are you?

Speaker 1:

good, nice to meet you you look you got all right, because people are wearing these, these zit things yeah don't even have zits.

Speaker 2:

I've never I haven't heard the word zit in so long. It's crazy, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, uh, yeah are you wearing this because you actually have to, or is this like?

Speaker 2:

no, it's part of the, it's part of the get up. It's part of the get up, like everything intentional with me, from the from head to toe, yeah so the Prada shoes.

Speaker 1:

That was a flex. All right, you didn't have to do that. I'm chilling, we chilling, yeah, we chilling, but okay, I love the fit thank you I was hoping to see you in the cardigan.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah never gonna not catch me in one yeah, yeah never, I love that thank you.

Speaker 1:

It kind of reminds me of I don't know what your inspo is, but it reminds me of, like modern day pharrell oh, that's fire, because I I can't curse.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh yeah, I fuck with pharrell so heavy, so like now that you say that I'm thinking of like a million pictures of like pharrell in the cardigan with the big hat and the jean shorts wallet chain, yeah, that might have like subconsciously influenced me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I love p hey, he's a goat, so I'm here for it. Yeah, the look.

Speaker 2:

And it's just different, you know. Thank you. Yeah, you know, I'm saying it's like I think there's such a look around a rapper. You know, I'm saying that I feel like I'm I'm anti, that like, when you see me, it's like he might be somebody, he might not. Oh, I don't know if they think in rapper first, you know.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, now that you say it yeah, yeah, I don't know what the hell I would if I didn't already know right, right, it's a lot going on.

Speaker 2:

I'm tall. I'm tall as hell, like I got tattoos on my face yes and a grill, but then the stickers and then I'm dressed preppy as hell. It's like it's a little confusing yeah yeah, that's what educational. I was with Joe Bunton the other day and he was like he didn't know what I did. He's like you're like a little artsy nigga. I was like that's what he labeled you yeah A little artsy nigga. He was like what do you do? I'm like, I told him whatever, but yeah, he tapped in.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he tapped in. Yeah, shout out, joe Gonna. Be on the sleepers.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for sure, that's fire.

Speaker 1:

But okay, so Alright, talk to me. I know we were just talking about when you're from.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'm an army rat, so when people be like when you from, it's always a Conflicted question for me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you never like. Oh this might sound sus, but like you never gave me New York Like I'm not mad at that yeah, are you from here?

Speaker 1:

no, no, I'm from maryland okay, in germany, my family's from florida born in germany, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2:

And your family's from florida? Yeah, what part. Tampa, wow, okay, okay.

Speaker 1:

Bush gardens, you've been okay yeah, down the street, yeah, so it's. It's like so my family mad southern country ghouls, canes, that type, you know same culture. But they raised me in Maryland, where it's like more progressive, et cetera.

Speaker 2:

Then I grew up more.

Speaker 1:

You know, my adult years were here for college and then I stayed. So yeah, I just feel like.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so you grew up in Maryland? Yeah, okay, got you, got you, got you. Yeah, okay. So you grew up in maryland? Yeah, okay, got you, got you, got you. So, yeah, so, to answer your question, I'm like like I said this, this gets so tricky. I'm like I grew up in atlanta. So I tell people, I tell people, I'm from atlanta. It's weird, bro. I tell people I'm from detroit, I tell people I'm from atlanta. Like I grew, like, I spent most of my formative years in Atlanta, so like I understand that place the most. And I just moved back to Detroit like three years ago. I left when I was seven, when my dad passed, and I moved back three years ago when I was 22 or whatnot. So I'm like learning that place, but like that's where all my family is from. You know what I'm saying. You're really from Detroit. Yeah, you know what I'm learning that place, but that's where all my family is from. You're really from Detroit. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

That's what's up, though, because Detroit and Atlanta are the top two cities right now. That's moving.

Speaker 2:

No facts. They have so much history too, the whole BMF stuff. I meet so many people in atlanta that be from detroit. It's like that's the place they migrate to, for whatever reason, when they go down south. So, yeah, there's just a lot of history between the two.

Speaker 1:

I feel like, yeah, that's actually kind of fire yeah so how has that, I guess, influenced you sonically? Because when it comes to like current rappers at least, at least like sound-wise. I feel, like, even from your look, but even down to your sound, you don't sound like what everybody's doing.

Speaker 2:

Nah, facts, I think, uh, being from atlanta play a very big, pivotal like piece in that, because atlanta is my taste palette. You know I'm saying it's like like I spent most of my formative years there, so it's like I'm getting introduced to like first things I'm listening to is like future young thug, like rich kids, like all these underground they're underground at the time, you know I'm saying so. Just this is just like my introduction to music, the first things I'm going out and listening to on my own. So coming back to detroit and being influenced by those things, it's like it makes for it, just make me stand out. You know I'm saying because I'm just into different stuff, like, even even like outcast. You know I'm saying just like all the artists that come from atlanta I feel like are so eclectic because it's like you go, you can go Migos, playboi, carti, to like Childish Gambino, you know what I'm saying. It's just a big pot of creativity down there.

Speaker 1:

They do have a lot of different pockets. Like hip hop isn't just one sound. I feel like New York, you know, like.

Speaker 2:

R&B Moonbat. Yeah, yeah, Atlanta, like you said, I didn't realize people were crazy from Atlanta. Jesus, that's what I'm saying. It'd be like so many people from there. People don't even like realize with Atlanta. New York, though, I feel like y'all I don't think Boom Bap Like. I feel like y'all make us sound like every few, like when Bobby Shmurda came out it felt so different to me, or a young MA, and then now you got like this whole drill wave and then I'm loving like Cash Cobain, like one of my favorite artists right now, like the whole sexy drill stuff, like I don't know New York be evolving and like making like cool shit still too.

Speaker 1:

Definitely, yeah, definitely that's true, and then the Detroit sound.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Honestly, detroit sound kind of reminds me of like West Coast.

Speaker 2:

I knew you were going to say that.

Speaker 1:

It does, it does. I don't know who started what. I don't want to be in the politics of none of that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It reminds me of like that, but just different rap flow.

Speaker 2:

Right, yeah, so does like you, not like us, sound like some detroit, shit to you, or no?

Speaker 1:

no, but because of how kendrick is spitting yeah he's detroit people. I don't want to be blamed for this, but detroit kind of does like a offbeat rap yeah, yeah on a west coast sounding beat right, yeah, offbeat, I guess, I guess. Well, it's on beat to what the, to the flow of what Detroit does, right, right, if that makes sense, yeah yeah, Now Detroit is a Detroit production right now.

Speaker 2:

I'm just proud of the city in general. It feels like we the wave, in a sense. I won't say like we the entire thing, but like Detroit right now is going crazy. Like you said, you got people from Atlanta rapping on beats like that. Yeah, I was going crazy. Like you said, you got people from Atlanta rapping on beats like that, and you know what I'm saying New York, wherever.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, so talk to me about your entry point into music. I know you said sonically who you were tapping into, but what made you want to be like, all right, I'm going to do this?

Speaker 2:

I wanted to rap because, bro, I ain't going to lie, bro, I'm just like a super egocentric dude. I might not look like it, like I'm chilling and shit, but it's like I love getting my ego rubbed. You know what I'm saying. So I just like on the back of the bus rapping and niggas being like, oh, he's so fine.

Speaker 2:

I'm like yeah oh my god, like all that, all that little shit, like kind of like, gave me the confidence and be like, oh, this is a way for, like, you know, I'm saying I think it's to rub nuts or whatever. Pause, but like. So I was like yeah, yeah, yeah, so i'ma, i'ma keep doing this, like this is fire or whatever. So, um, yeah, I just kept kept rapping, um, because of the feeling, you know, I'm saying, just I would get from my peers. So yeah, and then that turned into like. That turned into like so it was I wasn't recording at the time just like rapping on the back of the bus and start putting out songs and then start seeing more of that.

Speaker 2:

And then, like I say this all the time like because y'all me and yadi went to the same high school, but like he played a big part in like because he's like the cool kid at school or whatever the fuck. And like him telling me, like one of my first songs was fire. Like him and all his the upperclassmen you know what I'm saying Like his group of friends. Been like bro, that freestyle you did was hard. I'm just like swear, you know what I'm saying. Like you, the cool nigga.

Speaker 1:

Like. So, yeah, that kind of like kept me going too and uh, yeah, it's just been up ever since. That's kind of fire man, because in atlanta, like you said, there's so much history there that you can yeah go to school with a little yadi yeah, my school was.

Speaker 2:

School was turned like. I went to school with yadi ken carson went to school over there. I was in homeroom with um. Little nizex went to school with us for a minute. What, yeah, um yeah. He was in homeroom with um. Lil Nas X went to school with us for a minute. What, yeah, um yeah. He was in homeroom arguing with his cousin, like every fucking day.

Speaker 1:

Um. Is this an art school?

Speaker 2:

It is actually yeah. Oh, okay, it actually is yeah and yeah, yeah. So there was a. There was a lot of people that went to art school. That's fire.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, nah, that sound like the school to go to.

Speaker 2:

Nah, facts, facts.

Speaker 1:

Sheesh, Okay. Is that the same school that OutKast went to I?

Speaker 2:

don't know. Yeah, I don't think he went to that.

Speaker 1:

I don't think he went to that Because I know OutKast and Xscape.

Speaker 2:

Went to the same school.

Speaker 1:

Went to the same school.

Speaker 2:

Wow.

Speaker 1:

I didn't know that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so it's just like what school that is something in atlanta water.

Speaker 1:

Gotta be, yeah, but all right. So having that type of approval and feedback from your peers that you knew that you was on the right track, but what made you take it seriously was it that no, it wasn't.

Speaker 2:

I guess damn what made me take it serious, because it's like it's something that kept me going.

Speaker 2:

But it was nothing like.

Speaker 2:

I never looked at it like yo, I'm gonna be like this big rapper one day and I'm going to get on stage in front of niggas like butt naked and like just perform to the crowd Like you know what I'm saying Doing my thing, until, like I started thinking like that, like at 17, 18, I guess, cause I knew I didn't want to go to college. Like all my friends were like you know, I'm going to this college, I'm going to this college and I kind of like had to figure out something I wanted to do and then like rap was probably like the only thing I really fucked with at that time. Like I wanted to go to the NBA, but I had stopped playing basketball to rap, so it was like the only thing I had at that time. So I guess I just like stuck with it and then like realized like okay, this is my career path, let me like give this everything I got. So like around 12th grade I just like doubled down on it and just like went hard and then after that I signed to Def Jam a year out of high school.

Speaker 2:

I believe, yeah, yeah that's fire.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's fire. All right, so, um, rap is all you had left, yeah. And then you, you pivoted fully into that. Talk to me about just developing your artistry and, I guess, kind of coming up with the persona that you have online, because you seem really, even in person, you seem fun, you're a character, but like how did you come to terms with that?

Speaker 2:

It's funny, actually, because I feel like that's happened more recent. Like I feel like I recently, like just went through a self-discovery process with myself Because, as a human, when I moved back to Detroit like I said, I moved back three years ago I had to take a step back because I had got dropped from Def Jam. And then I felt like I think a lot of kids, when they get signed, they think like, oh, I made it. Yeah, I was one of those kids. It's just like I made it. Now it's like the world is mine. All I gotta do is like go to the studio.

Speaker 2:

When they say, go to the studio and I'm gonna be a superstar, when that's not the reality of it, it's more like going to the NBA and, um, now you gotta like fucking score points still stupid, like you know what I'm saying, y'all not stupid. But like to any kids getting signed, it's like you still got to put the work in and grind or whatever, and that was something I wasn't privy to. So after getting dropped, I was like, damn, you know what I'm saying. Because at that time too, I'm like I'm a teenager. So I'm like like I didn't know who I was. I'm listening to people tell me like what I should be. I'm uh, I'm looking at my influence like Kendrick Lamar, like one of my favorite rappers. You know I'm trying to be that nigga you know I'm saying versus like looking in the mirror and seeing who I am, accepting myself for that, and like trying to be the best version of that. Um, and that, like I said, that happened like three years ago.

Speaker 2:

It took me just like some like all right, let me stop making music. Who am I figuring that out? And then I'm like, okay, yeah, you know, it's like. Okay, I got it. Now I'm just like really like this fun, goofy, child-hearted kid that wants to, who's creative as hell. And just like whatever, whatever I think, whatever I think in my mind, whether it's crazy or not, it just like it has to be done. And that second I realized that was my strength and I just like been like hammered to the nail ever since and I feel like it's been working in my favor. It's like I started shooting videos and then I got signed to Atlantic, signed me after, like the first one.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, you come up with your own concepts in your videos yeah you do yeah, so uh, cinematic, I guess that's thank you, yeah like details, I just like damn this budget, gotta be crazy you know it's crazy, none like.

Speaker 2:

The most I spent on the video is like 2, like 2500 really yeah, yeah, the most ever and it was.

Speaker 2:

it was when I got called goaded. Like all my videos be like straight because I got direct and edited myself. So I'm cutting down a lot of costs and then, like the unpause guys, they help, we shoot it and, yeah, it just be what it is. It's like the most I do is like go to Party City buy some props or whatever the fuck. Go on Amazon, blah, blah, blah. We shoot it, I'm taking it home, I'm editing it.

Speaker 1:

so Devil face. Did you put that on yourself, or did?

Speaker 2:

you have a makeup artist. Come through my girlfriend. You Like that's how I started shooting videos. It's like niggas was trying to charge me like $5,000. I'm like boy, fuck, no, fuck. You Like I'm finna, try it myself. Like we just got cameras laying around the house Like let me see what it look like if I try it myself. And I just happen to be like really, really good at this shit. But yeah, my girl did the makeup. It's just me trying to cut costs in whatever way. I can Just keep money in my pocket. Thank you, you did really good. Yeah, and Bree, bree and my girl. Yeah, that video. Man, I didn't know black people don't fuck with the devil like that. Bro, what do you mean? I wasn't thinking.

Speaker 1:

You're from Atlanta.

Speaker 2:

No, you're right what I wasn't thinking. Yeah, I was like I don't know. I wasn't thinking, I didn't think it is creepy looking. Come on, I didn't, I don't know. I guess I knew what I meant by it and like I wasn't thinking about people interpreting it another way, other than what I intended.

Speaker 1:

Especially if people don't already know you.

Speaker 2:

Right, exactly that's a thing too. Yeah, I think it was too early for me to pull a stunt like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you're right, you're right I mean, it got people talking either way for sure it got people talking no, yeah, I was getting mad and followed for that.

Speaker 2:

It was like I used to fuck with you, bro, but the devil stuff I can't fuck with, I have to unfollow you and it's like damn why you gotta announce your unfollow though. It's like damn why you got to announce your unfollow, though it's like you know what I'm saying. It's like that's weird.

Speaker 1:

They got to let you know they exit the chat.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's like fuck, Damn that hurt, that's funny.

Speaker 1:

Well, you know what I mean. Shit, playboy Cardi plays into that all the time he does. It's a demo for it.

Speaker 2:

It is. Yeah, that's not what I'm going for, though by that video the devil to me was just supposed to represent like an evil force, not like yo when I see God it's up nigga. Or like I'm in an Illuminati. Like none of that. No, but Loki did give Illuminati. That that's what I'm saying. Like I guess, because that's what I'm saying. Like I guess, because that's what I'm saying, I wasn't thinking. I'm not thinking like, oh wait, I'm an entertainer. When people see entertainers do this, they associate it with motherfucking. Yes, so like You're going to throw it up your mouth.

Speaker 1:

So it's like I'm not thinking that until like the video come out and it's like, oh niggas is not fucking with this shit, yeah so. So when you see that, when you get like real-time feedback and stuff like that, or you plan on going a different direction, or does it make you want to lean in even more?

Speaker 2:

not because it's the thing. It's like I'm always stay true to who I am. You know I'm saying so. It's like, damn, I fucked up, but that's not gonna like deter me of like what I feel like I need to be doing, or like with my art, whatever, whatever, like where my art steers me. I'm going to go in that way. You know what I'm saying. It just sucks that if people miss misunderstood, but I'm not going to compromise or conform Never.

Speaker 1:

Understood. I'm mad at that. All right, so talk to me about what is the plan for 2024?

Speaker 2:

2024 plan is just more, more, everything. More more fans, more music, more money. Let me, I need that um more, just more everything. You know what?

Speaker 1:

I'm saying what? What is your sign, guess? Aries, yeah, how you know, no, really, what's your sign I'm aries, you're a yeah how you know, no, really, what's your sign.

Speaker 2:

I'm an Aries, you're an Aries, yeah, how you know is he really an Aries? How did you know that?

Speaker 1:

I feel like you're trolling me.

Speaker 2:

I'm right no yeah, fuck, I don't know, you just get fiery oh fuck, oh, I'm a Leo, but like that's fire, you're a Leo. Oh, I'm a Leo. No way, yeah, yeah, yeah, what's your birthday?

Speaker 1:

July 25th mmm.

Speaker 2:

Okay, don't say too much.

Speaker 1:

You're obviously an August.

Speaker 2:

I knew you were going to be no, but I'm, I'm like, I don't even, I'm like, alright, no, I'm just no.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we cool, though, like Leo so you lied you weren't fucking Aries.

Speaker 2:

I knew you were Aries. I'm like, you're not an Aries, I'm a Leo. Yeah, but aren't we supposed to be Now? I got a fact check.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we're-.

Speaker 2:

We're liars, though. Well, niggas speak for yourself.

Speaker 1:

That's the longest shit. No, that's Libras, libras.

Speaker 2:

Libras, that's after us, right? Yeah yeah, september. Yeah, I got a little brother, he a Libra. That nigga do be lying, that's lying.

Speaker 1:

Libras. It feels though they're supposed to be self-centered and bossy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you believe in that stuff though.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but I don't think I fall under that category. I can see that for you, though you think so.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I can see that for you, though you think so.

Speaker 1:

yeah, I'd be chill, though I'd be chill two things could be true at once type shit, type shit but alright, let's play a game alright all you have to do is fill in the blank bet the older I get, the less I blink hmm, the older I get, the less I care about other people's opinions.

Speaker 2:

I guess, yeah, just niggas don't got infinite time in the world to be like caught up in what everybody else think about them. Bros, like, if I die tomorrow I don't want to die sad because a nigga unfollowed me for being the devil. You know I'm saying so, yeah, yeah true enough?

Speaker 1:

yeah, can't let that bother you. Yeah, um, all right, the old? Oh no, I just asked that.

Speaker 2:

Sorry, um, you would never believe me if I told you blank you would never believe me if I told you I lost my virginity at 12 and stopped peeing in the bed at 13. Like I'm a wicked individual, you know what I'm saying. I was getting something and I was going home and pissing on the mattress. I don't know why it took me so long to stop peeing in the bed, bro, we good now, though.

Speaker 1:

I am overwhelmed by that response Shout out to the shirt.

Speaker 2:

who let me do that while I was still peeing in the bed?

Speaker 1:

Fuck so. No sleepovers between you two and Matilda.

Speaker 2:

At that time. No, I'm making a reason to go home. Oh my God, Any lie At 13? Hey, chill on me, chill on me. Jesus Chill on me, chill on me 13 is crazy. Chill 13 is crazy.

Speaker 1:

Chill, I'm just saying we chilling. You do your own laundry, right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, at least you watched it. Mom wasn't going for that.

Speaker 1:

Jesus Christ, all right, I can't believe I actually blinked when I was younger. I can't believe I actually I can't believe.

Speaker 2:

The first thing that comes to my mind is like net, 50 cent bro. Like he came to my dad's funeral but I think I was too young to understand what a funeral was but 50 cent was like 50 cent. So like the entire funeral, I'm just staring at him like bro. He like he's sitting with like Dr Dre and like you know what I'm saying Eminem and like, yeah, whatever. And I'm like bro, that's 50 cent. Like that's a nigga with the do-rag and a bulletproof vest and the big-ass jeans and he be like G-Unit and I got all his video games. Like you know what I'm saying, Like I wanted to be that guy. You know what I'm saying. So I think 50 Cent was like I don't know, that's just like a core memory of mine.

Speaker 1:

Like he was just like so impactful in my life.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, 50, 50, 50, 50 wait so wait, why were they at your dad's funeral? Who's your dad to them? My dad was. So my dad was in this rap group called d12. He was. He was, oh my god, yeah, oh, wow, his name was proof. He, when he, when he passed, you know, I'm saying these are like his guys. You know, I'm saying so, yeah, so his guys. You know what I'm saying. So, yeah, so yeah, he was there and I'm like wow, I did not know that yeah that's crazy yeah

Speaker 2:

that's legacy a little fun fact, what that's?

Speaker 1:

crazy. But nah, man, I mean all right, anyway, I'm about to no way tell me.

Speaker 2:

I want to know me and my best friend chante. We used to dance in my band all the time. Really, my salsa, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's crazy. My band is like a crazy wonderful song.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it is yeah.

Speaker 2:

I fuck with my band heavy.

Speaker 1:

Damn. Nah, that's for stuff. All right, shout out to your pops man RIP, all right. So I'm a little embarrassed by the fact that I know so little about Blake.

Speaker 2:

I'm embarrassed, I know so little about social studies. Like I was having a conversation maybe it isn't important for what I do, but like I was having a conversation with my friends and I'm gonna be knowing like the years wars happened and like just like little shit and I just don't be knowing none of that shit. I'll be feeling like a dumbass, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I guess yeah, it's like.

Speaker 2:

I guess it depends on the setting some people.

Speaker 1:

I can't remember what I ate last night for dinner, so remembering yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that too. Like when I get, I'm not embarrassed, but like I might get in a, I might have a argument with my girlfriend and just can't remember any fucking thing, and like she always end up being right because I can't, I can't, like prove any of my fucking points, because I don't be remembering. Yeah, it's like I don't, I don't be giving a hell, but then when you in the shower, you're like oh yeah, I should have said that, yeah, facts, definitely it's a real thing nah, but you're on this deal, so it's not All right.

Speaker 2:

So sometimes I look back at my life and blank Sometimes I look back at my life and just be grateful. I'll be grateful for like, just like, all the things I've overcome, like the place I'm at now and I don't know the things I've managed to do is like I know a lot of rappers who haven't got signed once. I just feel like it's a blessing for me to be able to do that twice. This journey I'm on you know what I'm saying the things I've managed to do for myself, I'm, yeah, I'm just grateful, just grateful to the universe and the most high, whatever that might be.

Speaker 1:

That's lovely. Yeah, a lot of people get discouraged going from one to another.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's good that you're not like bitter about it?

Speaker 2:

No, definitely not, Definitely not. It's like yeah, it's a blessing to me.

Speaker 1:

Love that. Yeah, that's good, all right, I made a complete fool of myself when I blinked, all right.

Speaker 2:

I made a complete fool of myself when I blinked, made a complete fool of myself. What did I do, bro? I don't know. Bro, y'all hear me saying something. I made a complete fool of myself. I made a complete fool of myself. I don't know. I think having dreads was like one of the worst. I don't know, I think having dreads was like one of the worst periods of my life. Like I just looked dirty, just like a dirty nigga. Yeah, just like ew.

Speaker 2:

Hey, everybody had a dread phase I feel like, yeah, it was like, especially as a rapper, it was just like the thing to fucking do. I hate it, I regret it. I regret it. I looked horrible.

Speaker 1:

All right. Well, you came into yourself, you see.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1:

All right.

Speaker 2:

Last one is my personality trait is blank. My personality trait is a liar. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding, I'm just fun, like I'm goofy, like I like I love having fun. I'm a kid bro, you know. I'm saying I went to. I went to what's called the other day and felt so weird for being there, the little trampoline I like, oh, like, uh, like the bouncy place. Yeah, it's like because I'm like the oldest nigga in there, just like me, my girl, like me too, so like we just like old, young niggas and it's just like a bunch of like little white kids just running around and like we, just the tallest oldest niggas in there, other than like people, parents. But I just felt like, damn, why am I like this? It's weird, I love that for y'all like this. It's weird, I love that for y'all, yeah, you know.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, you're just fine, that's dope. Thank you, I like that all right. So two things before we wrap. Is one you say kendrick is your favorite rapper of course it's kendrick versus drink.

Speaker 2:

Who you got why are you doing that?

Speaker 1:

I'm just asking. There's some delusional people out here why who you got kendrick I got not gonna lie, bro.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna probably have to take I'm gonna take ijj fish on this one. Oh my god, I'm gonna have to take ijj Fish on this one. Oh my God, I'm going to have to take IJJ Fish on this one.

Speaker 1:

He said I ain't fucking up my chances of working with nobody Understood. And then what was my other question? What was my other question?

Speaker 2:

Would you get a? Would you, would you? Would you get a? You went to NYU.

Speaker 1:

St John's.

Speaker 2:

That's a medical no nyu st john's, that's a medical. No, they do have a medical school, but I ain't go there for that, would you?

Speaker 1:

would you get a degree in communications okay, why?

Speaker 2:

I'm just curious, shout out to you.

Speaker 1:

Communicator damn wait. I really want what was my last damn question. Now I'm drawing a blank, cause this nigga said Ice JJ Fish.

Speaker 2:

That's my dog too Like.

Speaker 1:

You know him, mm-hmm, y'all friends.

Speaker 2:

Type shit like play poker every weekend. Really, yeah, I want him to. He's singing at my wedding too, and shit.

Speaker 1:

Why are you trolling me?

Speaker 2:

I'm not. I'm so dead ass. Were you looking to see if I was crossing my fingers? I don't know, I'm just trying to figure out, where did y'all meet? Chicago.

Speaker 1:

At funny enough at JJ's Fish.

Speaker 2:

All right Shout out to your grandmother. Everybody know where they can follow you. You can follow me my name's For those of y'all that don't know me I'm Jay Z, but you can follow me on everything At Nassan. That's N-A-S-A-A-N. They wouldn't let me get the Jay Z handle, but yes.

Speaker 1:

Now there's something wrong with you, oh.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my light skin friend wanted me to say I got a project. Yes, now there's something wrong with you. Oh. Oh, my light-skinned friend wanted me to say I got a project coming out, a mixtape called Error 404. This comes out May 31st. Shout out my light-skinned friends in the corner that y'all can't see off camera.

Speaker 1:

That's what I was actually going to ask. Glad you said that. For people who aren't familiar with you, if you had to pick three records, that's like a starter kit to tap in. What are the three records they should know by you that's a good question.

Speaker 2:

That's a good question. I'm gonna say oh man, that's crazy. I'm sorry, okay, okay, okay. I feel like I got a song called Ben Frank. I feel like you should definitely listen to it too. I got a song called Goat it, which the NBA playoffs are using, and UFC. And then, third, I'd probably say it's not out yet. I don't know when this is coming out. But listen to the song I call Land of Cap. It's not out yet. It may be. I don't know when this comes out. We're on TikTok live.

Speaker 2:

It's not out, it's on the new tape though it's on the new tape, it's the last song. Listen to that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's the last song. Listen to that. It's uh, yeah, it gives it's my life story fire. All right, make sure you guys tap in until next time. Talk soon, peace, and then just do a drop, say your name, promote the project and then say what's up, nyla, we need to talk okay, all right, go now can you say it like that or?

Speaker 2:

oh I, I got to say it back.

Speaker 1:

As long as you're in the frame, oh.

Speaker 2:

I was in the frame. Okay, hi, I'm Nassan. I have a project coming out called Era 404 on May 31st. What's up, nyla?

Speaker 1:

We need to talk.

Speaker 2:

Is this going to come out once the project is out? Let me see. Oh, I see May 31st. Yeah, do I need to redo it?

Speaker 1:

31st is? Oh, it's next Friday, but this will probably come out the 30th, right? Yeah, so never mind.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so we good Because it's coming out tomorrow, right yeah, so never mind. Okay, so we good.

Speaker 1:

Because it's coming out tomorrow.

Speaker 2:

Type shit. Yeah, all right, that's fine, all right, and then let's just do one just for safety. All right, bet To go now. Like out now. Yeah, okay, like out now. Mm-hmm, we going, yeah, we going. Yo, what's up? I am Nassan Go get Arrow 404. It's out now. What's up, nyla, we need to talk Fire. Thank you, guys, it was fun.

Speaker 1:

Take these pictures.

Identity and Influence Across American Cities
Musical Influences and Artistic Development
Navigating Artistic Expression and Misinterpretation
Astrology, Memories, and Self-Reflection
Promoting Project Era 404 Release