Big X Tha Plug Opens Up About Texas Drill Music, Fatherhood, CEO Life, Psychedelics, & So Much More!

What happens when you mix the hustle mentality of Texas with the relentless drive of a former football player turned hip-hop artist? Join us for an eye-opening conversation with Big X Tha Plug, who shares his transformative journey from working at UPS and missing his son's first birthday while incarcerated to becoming a successful artist, CEO, and dedicated father. Big X doesn't shy away from discussing the challenges he faces, including the invaluable support from the mothers of his children and his commitment to being a great father despite his flaws as a partner.

Texas is buzzing with an evolving music scene, and Big X gives us the inside scoop on the rise of Texas drill music and the cultural shifts within the state's hip-hop community. Explore how the landscape has shifted from a hardcore gangster image to a more expressive and diverse environment, and hear about the meteoric rise of artists like D-Glock. We also touch on the unlikely popularity of rodeos and efforts to bridge the gap between Dallas and Houston through collaborations, emphasizing the importance of unity in the music industry. Learn about Big X's new music label and its rapid ascent up the charts, all while maintaining an authentic approach to success and gangsterism.

Ever wondered what life on the road is really like for a rising star? Big X opens up about the grueling grind of back-to-back shows and constant travel, while also stressing the importance of rest and mental health. From his love for R&B to his laid-back fashion sense, discover the personal quirks that make Big X unique. We'll also delve into the emotional highs and lows of his success and explore the enlightening yet intense experiences of using psychedelics like shrooms. Finally, enjoy a fun game of "Questions that Need Answers," where Big X reveals some of his personal thoughts and quirks. This episode is a rollercoaster of emotions, insights, and laughs—don’t miss it!

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

How are you managing artist life, ceo life and health father shit? You got a lot of hats on you right now.

Speaker 2: 0:08

It's hard, it's hard as fuck. I just had a newborn, so on top of my other five-year-old I already. But the mothers of my children, they both they're very understanding. You know the first mother in my child. She's very understanding because she was with me when I didn't have nothing, you know what I'm saying. So those times where I was sitting in that cell and she was paying to put money on that phone call while she was struggling to eat and whatnot, and this was before the kid, so she was doing this before we even had the kid, you know what.

Speaker 1: 0:37

I'm saying Solid yeah.

Speaker 2: 0:39

So she understands. They both well taken care of, both good. So I feel like, as a father, I'm a great father. I tell women this all the time. As far as a father, I'm a great father. As a man, I'm a great man. I take care of everybody around me. You can ask everybody around me. But as a boyfriend or a husband, I don't feel like I'm good right now. I'm not the best'm saying I'm not the best, but it's just because you know I just got through in a world that you outside.

Speaker 2: 1:07

You know what I'm saying Exactly. But yeah so, father, great man, great boyfriend, a CEO, I feel like I'm doing a damn good job right now, just for them to be where they at, and they did it quicker than I did, even though they been rapping since they, you know, since we got here quick, like I don't even know when the LA trip was, but since the LA trip to now it was like two months a month, january so and since January they came, you know, they got here.

Speaker 1: 1:40

So I don't know man.

Speaker 2: 1:41

I'm just I'm proud. Like I said, I'm proud. I feel like everything is in the right spot, everything going good. It's hard, but I asked for it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah Well, I didn't ask for this. I asked for my kids to be taken care of for the rest of their life and this is what comes with it. Then, hey, it's Big X, da Plug man. I just dropped a new EP, meet the Sixers, with my artist, young Hood and Ro Summer man, what's up, madeline? We need to talk.

Speaker 1: 2:09

What's going on, guys? Madeline Simone here with another episode of we Need To Talk, and today I got a very special guest in the building. We got Big X Da Plug. How you feeling?

Speaker 2: 2:18

Man, I can't complain, I'm blessed, blessed.

Speaker 1: 2:26

Blessed, highly favorite. I don't know what it is, I don't know what's in the water in Texas man, but y'all got some of my favorite spitters right now for real nah, I don't know what it is either, but I don't know.

Speaker 2: 2:34

I guess everybody just trying to get to some money, you know what I'm saying. That's what's got it going. That's the motive, as far as Dallas, I know money Everybody was a hustler before the rap. So it's just kind of easy to transition and just put that same hustle into something else and make it something bigger.

Speaker 1: 2:56

Safer product.

Speaker 2: 2:58

No, for sure.

Speaker 1: 2:59

I would say I think I saw online that Texas has the most black billionaires. I mean not billionaires, has the most black billionaires, like I mean not billionaires, I'm sorry, millionaires. Oh okay, I was going to say I can't speak on the millionaires.

Speaker 2: 3:11

Millionaires I can talk to you, yeah, but billionaires I can't Shit, I wouldn't know. But millionaires I still can't even vouch for. I don't watch nobody else's pockets so I can't speak on it. I say to myself I watch my pockets, I watch the people around me pockets to make sure they not doing no extra crazy ass shit and then other than that, that's it. I don't really get to do anything with it.

Speaker 1: 3:33

All right, but Texas is getting to the money. That we know For sure. Getting to the money and getting to these bars. I would say something that I thought was really dope about you was just like your beat selection and your song choice. So I guess, before we get into this, was rapping always what you wanted to do, was this do or die, or what was the plan?

Speaker 2: 3:53

I was a football player. I played football my whole life. Once football came to a halt, I got to doing some other crazy ass shit and then I couldn't do that no more. You know what I'm saying? You sitting in the cell and you're like, damn, let's either do this again and come back here or figure something else out. And so I figured something else out. You know, I can never work for nobody. I can never work at McDonald's. I had one warehouse job. I worked there for like four months. I just I don't know, I just I'd rather be my own boss or something. That's what I made happen.

Speaker 1: 4:30

Understandable. What was it? Was it Amazon?

Speaker 2: 4:33

No, it was UPS, UPS okay.

Speaker 1: 4:36

Damn. Yeah, I had a friend who worked at UPS, Hated it.

Speaker 2: 4:38

But even at UPS I had my own little side hustle going on there. So it's like fuck these boxes. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 4:46

Alright, understood, Okay. And then what was the turning point where it's like, alright, I'm going all in on this music.

Speaker 2: 4:54

When I missed my son's first birthday. I missed my son's first birthday sitting in the cell doing some dumb shit. That was just kind of it for me. I was like, nah, that's not what I want my son to remember, that's not the type of life I want him to even live, because my dad didn't have that for me. My dad, he did whatever he did, but I ain't done nothing about it. I never had to deal with him sitting in that cell. If he was, I ain't done nothing about it. He got out so quick. I couldn't't you know what I'm saying. But yeah, so that was just nothing I wanted to put my son through, so I knew I had to switch it up that's real.

Speaker 1: 5:27

So at what point like did you? Did you already have some type of buzz, or no? I just you just made a whole 360.

Speaker 2: 5:37

I got a partner who's been Rossama. He's my artist. He's been rapping since he was nine years old, like, but he was my, he's my friend too. So growing up we would go to parks and whatnot and we would be flirting with girls trying to smoke and shit. He's standing at the top of the slide rapping, you know, acting like he's performing to a crowd. So whenever I got out, you know, we used to just always be chilling, smoking and whatnot and Rod on smoke, so he always would start freestyling. And then I would jump in and start freestyling and he was just like bro, you got to do this, you need to do this. And so I think that same day I was like well, I'm going to go to the studio. Today, I went to the studio. We made a song together. He had just started performing.

Speaker 2: 6:20

I went with him one day to perform and I was like all right bet, because as a football player, you're always under the lights. You know what I'm saying? I've been under the lights my whole life, so for me to have been took from under them lights. And then now he performed and I go with him to perform. There's only like 20-something people in the crowd, but I think that's what made me want to continue to do it, because it's like man, it's people out here shouting for me, like how they used to do on the football field. So that made me want to get back into it. But yeah, I dropped like I'm gonna say like five songs, no, I'm gonna say like six songs, and then I blew yeah, my gap. I dropped like six, seven songs and I that's almost unheard of.

Speaker 1: 7:04

I feel like.

Speaker 2: 7:05

Yeah, one of them was like an off-the-back EP. I dropped the EP called. I dropped one song and I stopped rapping. This was before that jail experience. Then I stopped rapping, went to jail. When I got out I dropped a whole I think six-song EP called Back From the Dead and I dropped two songs after that. Mr Trouble and Big Stepway you know the master family, damn.

Speaker 1: 7:32

All right, so talk to me about, I guess, transitioning into full artist mode, because six records in you're already blowing up. That's a different kind of reaction, where you're getting all that online love and then people starting to recognize you and whatnot. So talk to me about that transition.

Speaker 2: 7:49

I feel like if I would have went with like a major or something which I could have, I feel like I wouldn't have been heard of right now.

Speaker 1: 7:56

Yeah, that's a fact, because it.

Speaker 2: 7:58

Just it already went so fast, but just with me going with United Masters, it was like we slowed it. We were able to slow it. It's like going with a JV instead of a varsity. You know what I'm saying. I went with that JV. They was able to teach me everything I needed to know before we got here. So now that we're here, I'm prepared for it. I'm ready for it. You know what I'm saying? That's all.

Speaker 1: 8:19

Yeah, I just-. I love that. Why were you hesitant for the major label?

Speaker 2: 8:23

I don't like doing stuff that I don't know what I'm doing. And so for me to have, like I said, seven, eight songs, and now I'm somebody in my CD out, I was just like damn. But I still don't know what the fuck I'm doing. I don't know where my money gonna come from, I don't know how this work, and so it just happened. I was blessed enough to have a team that didn't mind giving me game you know what I'm saying from my NRs, my marketing, you know just all of that. They didn't mind giving me free game, and so now I got my own label you know what I'm saying and they still support it and are fully behind it. It's just, you know, I don't know. That's love, yeah for sure.

Speaker 1: 9:03

That's love. Yeah, for sure, that's love. So, um, what were like, what were you listening to as a kid? Because it's kind of crazy six songs and then you blow your flow is so fucking effortless. You know, like I'm trying to figure out how that was cultivated like, what were you listening to, or what are things? I'm actually curious into the things you listen to too, based off of, like, your beat selection.

Speaker 2: 9:26

Yeah, nah. So my mom's from Houston, so it's more like it's always been a UGK, slow little kiki. You know it's always been something slow or just real Texas. And then my dad he from East Texas, so it was just like. And then he an old soul, old child like. So he grew up around the Isley Brothers, avine, all of that. So I stayed with my mama half my life and I stayed with my dad until I was 16. So I kind of just put the music that I was hearing and I put those beats together and I just added my new sound on it.

Speaker 2: 10:02

I just feel like my voice was already different and unique. You know what I'm saying. Even though I never really knew it, I always used to. I guess I used to try to hide my voice, but I didn't like it because you got to think about it. Every grade I was in, I was always the youngest person. I graduated at 17. So everybody else around me are older than me and they got these little voices. I'm just. You know I'm saying so. I used to not like you, but then when I started rapping, everybody was like it's your voice, is your voice? Not like damn, I guess you're right your voice is the Chico like some people.

Speaker 1: 10:35

There's only selected people with a voice that you penetrate through off rip. Some people could borrow you to death, but you don't even care because nothing about their voice gravitate towards you. But your voice will stop a fucking room. I appreciate that.

Speaker 2: 10:46

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 10:48

I really love it. So that's dope, it's funny, but now do you like hearing yourself back, or are you one of those people who, like you, record? And then you're like, all right. All right, it's done, let me just get it out.

Speaker 2: 10:59

It just depends on how well I like the song. So like, if I have, if I have fun recording it I feel like it's one of the ones that just stick to me, or whatever then I listen to it, but if not, it's just a give it in, give it out type deal.

Speaker 1: 11:14

Okay, so talk to me about. I feel like Texas right now is really culturally leaning towards the forefront. Beyonce made cowboy boots and cowboy hats, you know fashionable and cool and stuff like that. Do you partake in any of the rodeo festivities? I didn't even know that was a thing.

Speaker 2: 11:35

See, I'm going to speak on that because I feel like Beyonce didn't make that album until after I came out with Texas.

Speaker 1: 11:42

Mmm.

Speaker 2: 11:46

If we're being completely honest, I don't want no problem with the beehive?

Speaker 1: 11:49

Don't be starting nothing.

Speaker 2: 11:51

Beyonce, I love you. If I can get anything from you as far as a song, a hug.

Speaker 1: 11:54

Yes.

Speaker 2: 11:55

If you didn't even look at me I would be great, but I did come out with Texas before she came out with that album.

Speaker 1: 12:03

Texas was tough too.

Speaker 2: 12:04

And it's like after that, Texas everybody, because I ain't going to lie in Texas, everybody was trying to be gangsters, everybody, even still, right now, we just started a Texas drill. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 1: 12:17

I don't want to hear it.

Speaker 2: 12:18

I got to be honest, no, but they going crazy, though it's good I was before me, I mean since me. It's this new guy named, I think, d-glock or something like that. He just did two million views in like a week Before him. It was me Like nobody had did it like that since me. So this Texas Drift is doing something. They all getting their little distribution deals.

Speaker 1: 12:38

Interesting.

Speaker 2: 12:40

Yeah, so they're making something out of it. But I just feel like before me Everybody was just too hardcore, too gangster, and I was the transition of that. I made it. I feel like in Texas I made it fun or just okay to be yourself. You know what I'm saying. I feel like I was able to do that.

Speaker 1: 12:57

You definitely made it jazzy. Nah, for sure yeah.

Speaker 2: 13:00

But also just to put on for the state, because it was like nobody had made a song like Texas, nowhere near it, until Texas came up.

Speaker 1: 13:09

Interesting. Hmm, I'm not going to say I agree, only because All you got to do is look at the dates. No, but you're right to the point for Renaissance and this past record. But she, low-key, gave us country music on that one, on Lemonade, that Daddy's Girl record, that was a country song, that was.

Speaker 2: 13:34

But to drop a whole country, yeah it wasn't dedicated to Texas or nothing like that.

Speaker 1: 13:37

It wasn't. But all right, all right, we all gotta find inspiration from?

Speaker 2: 13:41

somewhere? Not for sure.

Speaker 1: 13:44

But damn Wait, what are we talking about? Oh, not for sure. But damn wait, what are we talking about? Oh, but Texas being cool. I had no idea that like y'all even had rodeos. Like, that's a real thing. It sounds like a myth.

Speaker 2: 13:53

So, like in Dallas, like in Houston I ain't know that they had their annual shit area either where they got the big rodeos. I ain't know that either. But in Dallas we do. We have like random rodeos, some in Fort Worth, some in Mesquite. I've been to a couple of rodeos but I ain't never just been a big fan. I don't walk around wearing cowboy hats.

Speaker 1: 14:13

He said I'm not into that.

Speaker 2: 14:15

That was a video that we put a treatment to. That's how that was.

Speaker 1: 14:22

Every day. It's pretty casual.

Speaker 2: 14:24

No, for sure. This is not even what I wear. What do you mean? This is good, I know, but I don't wear this. I wear basketball shorts, or white tee, black tee. Oh, okay, okay, yeah, because at the end of the day, I'm still a screaming he said I ain't even trying to be coordinated. You won't. This is good. Yeah, I had some important shit to do yesterday, so I had to get a stylist, and we just went crazy. At the moment, Even though my birthday, just passed Fire.

Speaker 1: 14:53

Happy birthday.

Speaker 2: 14:54

I just bought a bunch of shit, so I'm just putting all this shit on.

Speaker 1: 14:56

You're a tourist. Yes, ma'am Tourist, all right, all right, okay, so what's the? And I'm just asking actually, just because I'm curious, what is asking actually, just because I'm curious, what is like, not the beef, but what's the beef between Dallas and Houston?

Speaker 2: 15:09

Right now I feel like it's not. I mean, before it was and that was just some politics shit. People just happened to pass away in the wrong areas at the wrong time.

Speaker 1: 15:21

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2: 15:22

But, like I said, now it's different. Like I done did a couple songs. I got songs with Sauce Walker, I got songs with that Mexican LT, so it's like OTV Fabs playing Everybody. That's Houston. I've done a song with it. So I feel like I don't know, I'm just trying. I'm trying to rebuild the beard, I'm trying to rebuild the state. I'm trying to do it. But I feel like more people see that and so more people are they hopping on the train to fix it as well. So I feel like, as far as my city, we good, like I said, you got this Texas drill shit, but even they see that they getting money. I just seen one of the dudes get jumped the other day and then back there they was like I'm not in no gang, I don't want no beef.

Speaker 2: 16:06

I just signed to a label and made money. Forget y'all, I'm good yeah and it's like, yeah, you might not look as gangster, but you're right, you're gangster because you got money. Good, I don't, I got another, yeah.

Speaker 1: 16:17

And me and games. And that's smart? No, for sure, yeah, that's why they they catching even in.

Speaker 2: 16:22

In some places they catching heaving in some places. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 16:27

So talk to me about the label man.

Speaker 2: 16:31

CEO. The label I started the label probably about a year ago. When I started it I always knew Rosama was going to be one of my first. I really wanted him to be like a business partner with me, but we both just decided to just be artists because he wanted to backdoor and make up his own label. I don't know, but the label man, it's going great right now. We just dropped an EP, like a week ago. It's top with hip-hop it's top five and I think overall it's top 20 on all genres. All genres is 26. And hip-hop and rap it is number 11.

Speaker 1: 17:18

Damn, that's good.

Speaker 2: 17:20

In a week, and that's with two people who, like they, haven't had this major platform. Who, like they don't, they haven't had this major platform. Like they this is just with every resource that I had we took advantage of. So, like I just I had a recording trip in LA. I was there for was there for a month and my label, United Masters, was mad at me because I didn't, I didn't make it for me, like, so they set it up and it was supposed to be for me, but I literally brought my artists and was like y'all go crazy, we finna do a tape and I'm finna put y'all on, and so that's what we did.

Speaker 2: 17:58

So, with those resources, and then just going to connect with Apple Music, Spotify, those people that already have connections, we're just sitting down letting them know Spotify, those people that already have connections, we're just sitting down letting them know like, boom, this is who this person is, this is who this is. This person which I don't know, made mm-hmm and it just you know what I'm saying. It was like, okay, well, this is a song that we even got you here for. You know what I'm saying. So it just kind of opened up doors. I feel like made it a lot better for that you know what I'm saying for that to happen. So they both, I think before the EP dropped, one of them had like 60,000 monthly listeners on Spotify, One of them had 600. Now they both got 1.5 plus, I mean million on Spotify.

Speaker 1: 18:41

You see what I'm saying. That's fire.

Speaker 2: 18:42

That's what it's about. Well, I got it. I ain't even saying passing the torch, because I'm going to stay hot.

Speaker 1: 18:49

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2: 18:50

But just to be able to light somebody else's torch with mine. You know what I'm saying. So that's what it's about. Man, we're doing great right now. I'm proud of them. I can't complain about it.

Speaker 1: 19:00

Love that, love that and, like you said, you were friends with these people for a long time.

Speaker 2: 19:06

Well, ro, yeah, ro, really, my cousin, fire, yeah, so, ro, my cousin. But Hood, I met him in the studio when I started messing with my new management company. We was just in the studio all the time he could freestyle. He could come in and just freestyle for 30 minutes straight and it would sound good the whole time. He hit me with all types of bars and everything for the for 30 minutes straight and it'll sound good the whole time. He hit me with all types of bars and everything for the whole 30 minutes. And that drew me to him because I'm like damn, why the fuck ain't nobody signed you yet? Like why? But it's just because he was still in the streets. I understand that. And all I did was give him, I guess, kind of like an ultimatum Like hey, if you was ever going to get out the streets I'll sign you. And he made that choice and we've been rocking since then.

Speaker 1: 19:54

That's awesome For sure. I love that. I'm really happy that you're doing that.

Speaker 2: 19:59

For sure. I mean, if he wanted it, I'm willing to give it. You know what I'm saying? He showed me that he wanted it, so we're doing something with it.

Speaker 1: 20:06

So how are you managing artist life, ceo life? Health father, shit, you got a lot of hats on you right now.

Speaker 2: 20:15

It's hard, it's hard as fuck. I just had a newborn, so on top of my other five-year-old. I really. But the mothers of my, my children, they both they're very understanding. They, you know, they my the first mother in my child. She's very understanding because she, she was with me when I didn't have nothing, you know what I'm saying. So those times where I was sitting in that cell and she was paying to put money on that phone call while she was struggling to eat and whatnot, and this was before the kid, so she was doing this before I, even we even had the kid.

Speaker 1: 20:44

You know what I'm saying Solid.

Speaker 2: 20:46

yeah, so she understand they both well taken care of, both good. So I feel like, as a father, I'm a great father. I tell women this all the time. As far as a father, I'm a great father. As a man, I'm a great man. I take care of everybody around me. You can ask everybody around me. But as a boyfriend or a husband, I don't feel like I'm good right now. You know what I'm saying. I'm not the best, but it's just because you know I just got through in the world that.

Speaker 1: 21:13

You outside.

Speaker 2: 21:14

You know what I'm saying Exactly. But yeah so, father, great man, great Boyfriend, a CEO, I feel like I'm doing a damn good job right now, just for them to be where they at. And they did it quicker than I did, even though they've been rapping since we got here Quick. I don't even know when the LA trip was, but since the LA trip to now it was like two months a month, january. So since January they came. You know, they got here. That's massive. I don't know, man, I'm just they got here.

Speaker 1: 21:47

That's massive, I don't know man.

Speaker 2: 21:48

I'm just proud. Like I said, I'm proud. I feel like everything is in the right spot, everything going good. It's hard, but I asked for it. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 21:58

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 21:58

Why didn't I ask for this? I asked for my kids to be taken care of for the rest of their life, and this is what comes with it. Then this is what comes with it, then this is what comes with it, making it happen, gotcha.

Speaker 1: 22:08

So are y'all going to do a tour for Meet the Sixers?

Speaker 2: 22:11

So I was actually supposed to drop my album right now, but I pushed it back so that we could drop this, and right now it's going so crazy. I think we should my booking agents they feel like I shouldn't right now, just off the strength of I just pushed my whole tour and everything back, damn.

Speaker 1: 22:31

Yeah, I pushed everything back for the Sixers. Well, now that you gave me that context, I think you should drop both.

Speaker 2: 22:36

But it's like I don't want to take away. You know what I'm saying. If I drop my album, it's like okay, boom, we don't got to listen to this number Because, please believe us, a lot of people in the world that's only listening to Mid to Sixes because BX and Plug is on there, but when they're listening to it, every song that I'm on, one of those artists are on. So it's like you're hearing me but you're hearing them too. But it's like if I drop my own album, I feel like they might veer away from that and I don't want that to happen.

Speaker 2: 23:04

You know what I'm saying I think we're just going to postpone, we're going to keep postponing. I mean, we're still booked and busy. We're doing shows. If we wasn't here, we'd be doing shows right now. I literally took off for the first two, three weeks of May just because of my birthday. If it wasn't for that, we would be booked and busy. We just did. We've, we done every. We've been off for what? Tuesdays and Wednesdays every week for the past couple weeks, just Tuesday and Wednesday, yeah, just Tuesday and Wednesday. We back on the plane Thursday, two, three states in a row, and then we back home on Monday. Damn man for the past, at least past five, six weeks, for sure. And it's, it's right back to it, right when we leave. Damn man For the past, at least the past five, six weeks, for sure. And it's right back to it right when we leave here. We got a recording trip on the 19th in Arizona. What's the date? The 15th?

Speaker 1: 23:56

Yeah that's right around the corner.

Speaker 2: 23:58

You feel me.

Speaker 1: 23:59

Damn, what a life man yeah.

Speaker 2: 24:02

That's it. We asked for it. We didn't ask for it, but we asked for it.

Speaker 1: 24:06

We here. Well, I'm happy, I'm a fan and I'm just excited to see where you take everything For sure, but let's play a game. It's called Questions that Need Answers. Okay, all you got to do is fill in the blank. Okay, all right the older I get, the less I blink.

Speaker 2: 24:24

The less I sleep.

Speaker 1: 24:27

I believe that I have to just hear on your schedule.

Speaker 2: 24:29

Yes, I believe that the less I sleep.

Speaker 1: 24:32

That's not good man. You got to figure that out, I do.

Speaker 2: 24:37

You got to figure that out. And then the days when I think I'm asleep, we up Now. Oh, I guess you got to do this, Damn.

Speaker 1: 24:44

Yeah, all right.

Speaker 2: 24:52

You would never believe me if I told you blank I used to say drugs, I said you would never believe me.

Speaker 1: 24:57

I believe that. Why would you believe that I listen to your music? Alright, alright.

Speaker 2: 25:08

I love R&B music ooh, what's your fave? I'm a mom type of guy okay, love that, that's what's up.

Speaker 1: 25:16

Shout out to your mom I know that's all her right there. My personality trait is blank.

Speaker 2: 25:25

I feel like I'm a funny guy.

Speaker 1: 25:26

Funny, yeah, I'm cool to be around, unless I'm a funny guy funny yeah, I'm cool to be around, unless I'm not cool unless you're not cool, unless you're not feeling the energy exactly, I'm a little embarrassed by the fact that I know so little about blank okay about clothes. You said I don't be caring. I don't.

Speaker 2: 25:48

But it's like now I've seen some pictures. I got on basketball shorts and I'm with all these other rappers that got on this Balenci and Amiri and I'm like, fuck, I gotta do something.

Speaker 1: 25:59

You really don't though. I don't your shit fire regardless, don't tell me that.

Speaker 2: 26:03

Don't tell me that. Don't tell me that, because I'm dying to wear that to it.

Speaker 1: 26:05

You can still wear. Your goddamn, you can wear a white tank top. Call it a day.

Speaker 2: 26:09

I got every goddamn basketball football team you can think of. I swear to God.

Speaker 1: 26:16

Yo, I genuinely think there's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 2: 26:19

So then when it get cold, I just do every color polo suits, polo jogger suits.

Speaker 1: 26:23

But I know Audrey looking at me like no bitch, it's stylish.

Speaker 2: 26:25

It's stylish.

Speaker 1: 26:26

I ain't going to do it, but I think it's not that deep. No for sure.

Speaker 2: 26:30

But my shoe game go crazy, though I have every any shoe you can think of For real. Yeah, I got cases of some other shoes. Yeah, Cases Am I lying? He's damn near staying with me. In my closet I got cases of shoes.

Speaker 1: 26:44

Damn yeah.

Speaker 2: 26:45

I literally got a suitcase right now full of shoes, one suitcase full of clothes, one full of shoes.

Speaker 1: 26:49

You size 13. Let me find out, man, we was different, you was different size.

Speaker 2: 26:55

I had to go pop in there real quick she basically saying nigga, I would have had all your sizes back in the day. Back in the day, I would have had all your sizes.

Speaker 1: 27:04

Let me see, sometimes I look back at my life and blink. Cry Do you really? Yeah, you be crying.

Speaker 2: 27:14

What? I be sad as fuck. You ain't never seen my Twitter. No, I be sad as fuck. Really what? Why See? I wasn't supposed to be here. Hmm, wasn't supposed to be here. I wasn't supposed to be here. And then just the fact that I finally put my mind to something and I did it. I ain't never did that before Football. That shit came easy. Selling what I was selling that shit came easy. But to say, all right, I'm going to do this and then do it, I'd be proud, I'd be happy. You know what I'm saying. But then you got to think about all the shit that came after it too, because before I had money, certain shit that's happening now wasn't happening then. So, like certain people act crazy, I done lost a lot of people. You know what I'm saying. That shit making a nigga cry.

Speaker 1: 28:00

Yeah, it's a part of the process. It is a part of the process, shit. It is a part of the process.

Speaker 2: 28:10

Shit is not easy, but you got a good team. It seems like they try to keep me up.

Speaker 1: 28:12

That's important, all right. Last one is I made a complete fool of myself when I blinked. It can be anything.

Speaker 2: 28:27

I don't think I make fools of myself. I think I do it. I guess I guess I make a fool of myself when I be say it and I just go in my and then everybody be like I pop up and I just be so happy, like the next day, the next day it's just like man, nothing wrong, and I just be like hell, no, hell, no. So I guess you could say that.

Speaker 1: 28:54

That's just human, that's just going through the emotions.

Speaker 2: 28:56

Yeah, because I know if I'm sad all day, everybody fucked up, like it's that type of vibe Like if I'm having a fucked up day, everybody got to have a fucked up day. Well, I ain't going to say they got to have a fucked up day, but your energy is going to be so strong it deteriorates. Everybody else, everybody, just in their room Don't nobody want to go nowhere. It's like they don't want to go somewhere, but they know Not today. I can't even ask this thing because I know it is Not.

Speaker 1: 29:23

Not today. It be like that you got to stay off Twitter, though.

Speaker 2: 29:27

Man.

Speaker 1: 29:28

You can't be running Twitter. It's either.

Speaker 2: 29:29

Twitter, or because I ain't doing no fucking my label. Just tried to give me the. Well, not my label, but Ebony and Brandon talking about a fucking what's that shit called the people that talk to you? Therapist? Yeah.

Speaker 1: 29:42

You should do the therapist. Hell, no, they don't know me.

Speaker 2: 29:49

You, you should do the therapist, you should do the therapist. I feel like a therapist gotta be somebody that you know, that watched you grow up, that know everything that you went through. I can't tell you what I went through and then you say, ha, this is the problem no, no, no.

Speaker 1: 29:59

They don't tell you what your problem is. They don't tell you what your problem is.

Speaker 2: 30:02

But just listening to me. If you're not telling me what I can do to better this shit, then what are we doing? I'm just dry talking about this shit when I can tweet about it and move on.

Speaker 1: 30:11

No, no, no, no, no, Because Twitter, Twitter is you're giving an audience an inside peek into your thoughts.

Speaker 2: 30:18

But that's cool though, because there's a bunch Broadway. Do it.

Speaker 1: 30:25

This is true, this is true, this is true.

Speaker 2: 30:28

It's a bunch of people who and it's like, for some reason because I don't really be on Twitter like that unless I'm going through some shit so it's like all the fans that's on the Twitter it's like they all be going through some shit too, because they all be understanding.

Speaker 1: 30:41

Man.

Speaker 2: 30:43

Instagram is my happy place. I'm on Instagram. I'm happy I'm on Twitter. They already be knowing.

Speaker 1: 30:48

Y'all always say Twitter is a deep dark hole. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 30:53

It is because it's either sad or porn.

Speaker 1: 30:55

Literally.

Speaker 2: 30:56

Or anger.

Speaker 1: 30:58

Anger goes through it too. That's what's up. Oh my God, his Twitter fucked up. This nigga guilty as fuck. He started cracking up.

Speaker 2: 31:07

He didn't crack up, he just looked at me like, yeah, yeah, twitter, let's Twitter. You're not Twitter, go crazy though.

Speaker 1: 31:15

Damn so you would not try therapy. Have you tried it?

Speaker 2: 31:18

No, I ain't never tried it. I don't feel like I would try it though.

Speaker 1: 31:20

I think you should try it.

Speaker 2: 31:30

No pressure, though. No pressure At some point you'll probably. It'll probably take you some time, but I think you'll get there. That's just like telling me to get in the gym.

Speaker 1: 31:36

Ain't neither one of them happening no time soon? No, but think of so. Therapy is mental, is mental gym Like? Instead of physically, you just you're exercising your emotions and your thoughts.

Speaker 2: 31:49

What a trainer. But then it's not doing nothing. But now I'm just thinking about this shit. I already don't want to think about it. The times that I do think about it, I shut down. So now I got to sit down.

Speaker 1: 31:57

Have you done shrooms before All the time? Okay, so therapy is like what they do. You know how, when you're on shrooms, say, you got a problem that you try and figure out. And then, once you do shrooms, you're like, oh, you kind of see it from a bigger lens and you're like, oh, I need to do this, like after your trip. You kind of no.

Speaker 2: 32:19

We take shrooms and turn the fuck up. No, like, see, I don't take shrooms. And like Not microdose. Nah, well, I mean, yeah, we microdose, but it's like if we just sitting here and we just chilling, I don't do that, like if we going to the club I take them before we going to the club.

Speaker 1: 32:33

You do shrooms to go to the club. What Maniac.

Speaker 2: 32:37

Try it, Maniac. Try it Soon as you go in. You want the damn lights.

Speaker 1: 32:48

The lights go crazy. Yo, you love me, some fucking lights.

Speaker 2: 32:50

The lights, just the beat. Everything is just more impulsive, Like you can just feel it.

Speaker 1: 32:57

Really.

Speaker 2: 32:58

Yeah, it's a lot different, but we eat. I smoke, we eat daily. I'm really fucked up right now. I didn't smoke before I got here, but it was because I slept in a little bit, but yeah.

Speaker 1: 33:09

I got something for you If you want it. But alright, damn man.

Speaker 2: 33:16

Is it shrooms?

Speaker 1: 33:17

Wait, so you never did shrooms. That gave you clarity.

Speaker 2: 33:23

I've never took shrooms for clarity.

Speaker 1: 33:25

Oh my God, you should try that. Alright, you say, go to the club. I'm telling you do shrooms and sit in nature.

Speaker 2: 33:30

You know what's crazy, though? No, no Matter of fact, I see what you're talking about, though, because we took so many shrooms the other day for my birthday that they were still like we didn't go to sleep. So like we was literally sitting in the back of the Rolls Royce, me and my manager who was in the front, you asleep yeah, it was me, my manager, juth, and my assistant and shit. We just got to going down through there talking about the kids and shit, and next thing I know, I was sad as fuck in the backseat and for the whole day I was fucked up all day. It was my actual birthday too. Damn. Yeah, we didn't go nowhere for my actual birthday and all this shit or bringing in my birthday.

Speaker 1: 34:11

But did it give you clarity at all?

Speaker 2: 34:13

No.

Speaker 1: 34:14

Or just like reflection.

Speaker 2: 34:15

It was just reflection yeah, like just, it was just like fuck bro, it don't matter, it don't matter.

Speaker 1: 34:21

Fuck, you know what? I don't know if I'm going to hit my point with this one, so I'm going to leave it alone. I'm going to leave it alone, but, big X, thank you for stopping by and shopping with me. Shout out to your grandma. Everybody know where they can follow you, if they don't already.

Speaker 2: 34:33

Everything, big X to plug B-I-G-X-T-H-A-P-L-U-G Y'all can get everything. Let's do it.

Speaker 1: 34:45

Thank you.