Jim Jones Reflects On "El Capo," Hip-Hop Evolution, Harlem's Influence, & Upcoming "At the Church Steps"!

What if the criticism you receive could actually be viewed as a form of love? Sit down with us as we chat with the legendary Jim Jones, who shares his seasoned perspective on life, music, and the nature of staying relevant in the ever-evolving hip-hop industry. Get an insider's look into his unique creative process, where he recites instead of writes, and hear the moving story behind his album "El Capo," birthed from a darker, transformative period in his life. Jim's candid reflections on authenticity, persistence, and the real meaning of criticism offer a compelling narrative of growth and resilience.

Ever wondered how hip-hop fashion has evolved over the years, or why Harlem remains a powerful influence? Jim Jones takes us through the vibrant tapestry of hip-hop style, from the introduction of BB Simon belts and True Religion jeans to Chrome Heart's current craze. Learn how pioneers like Nas, Jada, Fab, and Fat Joe have embraced both age and youth trends, weaving together the old and the new in a genre once seen as a young man's game. Harlem’s distinct confidence and flair shine through as Jim recounts his own journey in helping shape the culture.

Finally, explore the importance of nurturing the next generation of artists with insights from Jim's transition from hustling to directing and engineering with Dipset. Discover the organic reception of his new hit "2 Turn" and the vibrant energy it brings to the streets and clubs. With exciting updates about his upcoming album "At the Church Steps," marking the 20th anniversary of "On My Way to Church," Jim shares personal stories of growth, introspection, and dealing with public scrutiny. This episode promises an engaging blend of music, style, and heartfelt reflections that you won't want to miss.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

The older I get, the less I blink the older, I get.

Speaker 3: 0:04

Please tell me you've grown up. Come on, we've seen it.

Speaker 2: 0:09

The older I get, the less.

Speaker 3: 0:11

I fight, no low key.

Speaker 1: 0:13

That's why I'm like alright. I hear you, because I be seeing these little.

Speaker 3: 0:18

TMZ videos. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2: 0:20

Like they always get you.

Speaker 3: 0:22

Why do they always get you, or why do you always fall for it?

Speaker 1: 0:25

I should ask oh man.

Speaker 2: 0:26

I don't know, I don't know man.

Speaker 1: 0:29

Every time, you can't forget who you are man.

Speaker 2: 0:33

Fuck, hey, what's up. This is your boy, Jim Jones-Capo. A new record single two-turn featuring Taylor, Ricard and Dilla Dilla. I'm here with Big Nye, not the little one, and we need to talk.

Speaker 1: 0:43

What's going on, guys? Nylah Simone here with another episode of we Need to Talk, and today I got a very special guest in the building. Harlem is in the building. I got. Jim Jones, what's up? Thank you, girl.

Speaker 3: 0:53

How are?

Speaker 1: 0:53

you.

Speaker 2: 0:53

I'm pretty good.

Speaker 3: 0:55

Jim, I'm so happy you're here. I am, and the day that you came is actually hella ironic, because I didn't even peep that. The anniversary.

Speaker 1: 1:04

This is so dope.

Speaker 2: 1:05

Yeah, this is dope, this is dope. I woke up to that. Actually that wasn't even on my mind. I was looking at the gram and it was like five years of El Capo, the album Dope. That was a great album too. I would say one of my favorite albums out of all the albums I've created.

Speaker 1: 1:20

It's a good moment too, just because we're really seeing like second run, second wins in hip hop, and I think this is the first time we're really seeing it yes, um, for those who can withstand the time that part I was actually telling uh crestwell, today I'm like yo, I'm, I'm really excited only because of where jim started in the game to just where he is now, and just like the evolution and the pen and just the consistency, because a lot of people give up because this shit is not easy. Times change but yet you still were able to maintain and stay true to you at the same time. So I'm like you're one of the forefront for that. Thank you, shout out to you and I just feel like there's so much I can learn. So, all right, why is that your favorite project?

Speaker 2: 2:14

I don't know why I can't put my Just sonically this felt good when I was at before I did the project and leading up to the project I was coming out for a very dark, crazy place and I was at a moment where I didn't know if music was the direction I was going in at that time.

Speaker 2: 2:32

And then um shot the Fred de Garza and I always say that he was one of my biggest inspirations into me getting back into, fully acclimated into the game again and, um, that led me to start doing music and that music that me and me and Fred started doing and him egging me on to do led to me doing El Capo with Heat Makers, shouts to Arsonists and just the whole way the album came about. It wasn't even supposed to be an album. These songs are pretty much songs that I was doing on the way out, when I was on my way home, which is a whole bunch of records I had, and also this was like I think we got a pretty dope album here and I wasn't doing them to do album. I was just in the midst of the studio recording and this happened so organically and the music was so dope and you know, in the midst of all, I started to see the evolution of my pen, which I don't use, so the evolution of my brain, I would say.

Speaker 1: 3:30

You don't write.

Speaker 2: 3:32

No, I don't write, I recite Stop, you really don't write. No, never, really Everybody knows that.

Speaker 1: 3:38

I did not know that.

Speaker 2: 3:39

I write in my sleep, so to say, so to speak, fire.

Speaker 1: 3:46

So what was the change in gears? You think it was just the time period of what you were going through, or do you think it was like with that new inspiration?

Speaker 2: 3:57

I think the change in gears was me knowing if this is something I want to do. It had to be the absolute best version of who I could be musically, or else this game is so fickle they might not took it seriously. Not to the exit, to myself out the game when I could have bowed out gracefully.

Speaker 1: 4:14

So that is like this shit better be on me or so yeah, even then, because people are gonna be critics, regardless whether, even if it's a masterpiece, there's still going to be somebody out there who hates it a hundred percent yeah a hundred percent, but as long as they, if they hate and they participate, and that mean you have to listen to it that's true.

Speaker 2: 4:36

That's a good way to look at it and usually hate comes from a place of love in some misconstrued way. If you understand what I'm saying, interesting.

Speaker 1: 4:43

All right, that's a positive way to look at it, so I like that. Um, all right, so this is your favorite one. I I feel like the moment the way it recharged and also just um, like the the run nods is on, I feel like that saying that hip-hop is a young man's sport is no longer true.

Speaker 2: 5:06

I mean, hip-hop was young itself at one time. It's only 50 now. So when people first started saying it was a young man's sport, hip-hop was only in their 20s. Hip-hop was only in their 30s. So as hip-hop gets older, the kids that were the young kids doing it are starting to grow with hip-hop, such as Nas, such as Jada, such as Fab, such as myself, such as Fat Joe. You know what I mean and that's just the way it is. People, I don't think there's no age on music. There used to be an age on hip-hop. That's when I was very young. But as you see, rock and roll artists, r&b artists there's definitely no age on that music and I think hip-hop has fallen into the same lanes as those other music genres when it comes to age about damn time I'm here for it.

Speaker 1: 5:49

How do you feel about? Um? Because, like you said, it used to be a young man sport and I feel like now, in the temperature that we're in, I guess in regards to like the actual art of the music, the, the standard has changed yeah, but it's still a young, energetic sport.

Speaker 2: 6:08

Let's not forget that it is. It leads with the younger generation. Okay, by all means. Um, we're just lucky enough to still be in it and be relevant and be able to be accepted by the young people because of whatever reason they do it for. But, but let nobody, this is a young generation's game. You dig, music evolves. You know what I mean. It comes back around in circles and then there's always new music that people get used to. When we did music, they was like, oh, what is this? All this crazy shit they talking about? And that turned into be the phenomenon that it was. And then now, where we at with music, you got a lot of older people. That's looking down on the younger generation and talking about this drill music. But drill music is the next wave of some of the best artists that we've seen come out for the new generation. You know what I mean. So older generation got to know when to kind of step aside and let the new ones have some fun, the same way we have fun that's in every capacity, not just music.

Speaker 1: 7:06

But I would say, um, I like how you said everything kind of comes like back around and, um, something that's coming back around is a trend that you definitely were big on. I would say it was in the forefront.

Speaker 2: 7:19

It's like the belts, the rhinestone things like I invented all of that. I wasn't just on the forefront. You invented all of that, I wasn't just on the forefront.

Speaker 1: 7:26

You invented all of that.

Speaker 2: 7:27

I was the person that put it in the blender for y'all to wear it. Nobody knew what no BB Simon belts was. Nobody knew what True Religions was. There's a whole bunch of things that people didn't know what was until we actually put it on and made it something cool, I mean so.

Speaker 2: 7:43

Definitely put me on, so, but I just so a lot of things, even like Chrome Heart. Nobody in the hip hop industry knew what Chrome Heart was. When I started wearing Chrome Heart I'm not saying I invented it, maybe there were other people that were wearing it but made it a commercial success. Yeah, we did a lot of that, did a lot of that. So a lot of things that you see the kids doing now, stuff that we did when we were young 20 years ago and first coming into the game and having our way with it, and things like that and it's actually pretty dope to see that something that the starter so is even more prevalent now than it was back then.

Speaker 2: 8:19

Like these kids, that they like home heart, uh, a everyday thing. When it was something that it was scarce. If you had it then it was like. Now it's like these kids are going for it. You gotta have that shit on. I'm watching how the fashion game go and things are different. There's a whole new flair when it comes to fashion and things like that, but the uniform of it, the foundation of it, still sticks the same for how we twisted it.

Speaker 1: 8:43

Was it on purpose when you guys were doing it or were you guys trying to be different?

Speaker 2: 8:50

No, we never trying to be different From Harlem. Fashion is like something that's just like a big competition out there. When it comes to fashion, we always try to be as fly as we can be and everything that we've done came with a little bit of Harlem. As fly as we could be, and everything that we've done came with a little bit of Harlem. Chrissy, she's the one that actually put a lot of twist on my fashion when it came to the rock and roll look and the chrome heart look and that whole look I started giving them back then. It wasn't something that was on purpose, it was just my own natural evolution of switching up my style, going to something new, and didn't know that I was actually slimming the game down when making the jeans a little slimmer and the clothing fit more and things like that yeah I mean, and it still was hella baggy back then, but just to show you how big the clothes that we were wearing.

Speaker 2: 9:39

So you know, I mean, but it's good yes, nah, it's.

Speaker 1: 9:44

It's actually really cool to see. I didn't know you guys were the inventors of it. And I only say that because there's this tweet on twitter right now that's going around. That's like all right, new yorkers are have a certain type of of uh, confidence, but harlem is on a different level. What is it in it? Because even just how you talk about the fashion, like yeah, this is just what we do in harlem, it's almost like a competition. What is that? Why is that?

Speaker 2: 10:10

I don't know. We got to have that shit on. We got it bad. Harlem nigga would rather be fresh than have money in his pocket. Be broke as shit Yo, you're not lying, he's broke as shit. But he got that shit on. You heard me, he definitely got it all. You gonna think he got a million dollars on him. Definitely. I've done that so many times in my life. Coming up at home there's.

Speaker 2: 10:30

A proper representation prevents poor performance. I mean in all ways in life, when we were young and you were hustling and you was trying to get a couple of dollars, the connection, the plugs when it did deal with you, if you looked like you was a dirt bomb and things like that. So if you in the club and you look like you got all that things on that time, that time you might end up catching a plug or connect that might have you get, get you some money. So it's just a whole mindset that comes with all of that this. But I'm older now so you know. But fresh is what we like to do in holland. Yeah, don't be looking crazy out there, man, they're gonna get you and and people know how to snap, they're going to heat you up for coming outside looking crazy all day.

Speaker 2: 11:06

You're going to be the opposing child looking bad for the rest of the day, so don't do that to yourself.

Speaker 1: 11:10

That's a fact, the rest of the day, the rest of the week, every time they see you, boy, you had that jacket on.

Speaker 2: 11:16

You must have been bugging. They're going to get you bad.

Speaker 1: 11:20

Wait, I like what you said about you kind of look it and so you end up getting more opportunities because you look the part and I feel like right now, where the climate is culturally it's kind of like that with everything, to the point where it's scary Because I can't really tell what's real, who's real when it's real.

Speaker 2: 11:43

I can say this Looking the part is one thing thing, but standing out is another. Most of these people look the part, but they all look the same. We aim to stand out. We never want to look like nobody else. Right now you go in the club and everybody going the same shit. Everybody's looking the same. This is why I always kind of stand out, because I've Never, ever, wanted to look like no one at all but myself.

Speaker 1: 12:11

My question for you now is from when you first started, did you see yourself coming this far and like being relevant this long? Because at that point that wasn't a thing at all. Um like, did you have a plan?

Speaker 2: 12:30

I never had a plan. I always had a feeling, um, and then I always have the what my mom's told me, since I was a young kid and I felt like she, actually she, she's been telling me the truth this whole time, so so you know what I mean. I'm here for something. Whether it was going to be music, whether it was going to be something else, I was going to stand out more than most.

Speaker 1: 12:51

Yeah, shout out to your mom, talk to me about because outside of the music, obviously, or before we get into the new single, you're pushing, you're just a businessman across the board and it's actually impressive because as a creative, I feel like it's hard to manage both. At what point, like, were you forced to kind of learn it at some point? At what point was that? Or were you always kind of just inclined?

Speaker 2: 13:20

I was always creative from since a baby that's just me. But when we started doing music I was put in a position where I was taking care of business first Because I had to handle a lot of things for Cam. I took management positions, I had to engineer. So I understood the business first before I got a chance to even work on my creativity as an artist. I was never an artist. I taught myself how to rap through Mason, cam and watching everybody and getting in and things like that. You know what I mean. So mine was a little bit flip side. So when it came to the creativity I knew how to kind of separate the two and that was one of my strong points. I think that's one of the things that kept me here the longest, because I understood what the business was.

Speaker 1: 14:01

What even made you take the business roles? Initially, especially as a natural born creative? Because and I guess I'm just speaking more for myself, because when I dabble into other things it just it's so much harder because it's not natural right yeah, um, but my creative, well, my roles end up being some of the most creative things we could do for the outlook of Diplomats.

Speaker 2: 14:26

Like you know, the artistry of the music was something that Cam did. That's something I could not do at that time, but my vision was something I could do, and that vision came with a part of the business. So I started directing videos, I started engineering the music, I started doing everything else that needed to be done except for the music, because I knew Cam had that. But everything else that needed to be done except for the music, because I knew Cam had that. But everything else I needed to be done came with a vision, and it came with the vision that you're seeing with Dipset, and now you're seeing all the flair, and now you'll see all this fly, and it's everything that we just was talking about with the fashion, and I make sure that I put it on ten so people could absorb it way more than they would have. They just seen it, seen us in the hood hell, yeah, the statement pieces.

Speaker 1: 15:03

That is something to talk about. Yes, okay, love that. Um, all right, so um something.

Speaker 1: 15:12

You're still actively active, but you're also still like working with new artists, putting people on in the city a lot of artists which is, um, really dope, just because I feel like, or this is a like or this is a complaint, that no, this is a complaint that I think I still can hold true on. I feel like a lot of the artists who helped build New York's rap scene leave New York and then don't. It's like you just don't even participate in what's going on out here and I feel like that hurts the culture, because we need, we need it.

Speaker 2: 15:47

you know I'm saying um, so just talk to me about I mean, I don't know about the other artists, I only can speak for myself. Okay, anybody have their own situation and I'll try, as I get older, try not to speak on other things that I know not much about, you know I mean, but I can say this I would I urge any artist that does have the time to do so to definitely come outside and give back to the city and give to the younger generation and give them all the knowledge that you have from your experiences in the game. It might help them go a long way. You know what I mean. But for me myself I'm from Harlem so one thing we always was taught to do was give back. That's myself. I'm from Harlem, so one thing we did always was taught to do was give back. That's tradition, and I'm not a hustler, no more. I've been doing music business, so I take that same mindset and put it into music. It naturally is to give back. So what we do, we turn around and give the younger generation that has the same opportunities that I think I had when I was younger and has the same mindset and skill set that can take them far and help them get on mindset and the skill set that can take them far and help them get on.

Speaker 2: 16:45

And enough is not promised but shit opportunity. Sometimes it's worth more than money. A lot of times it's worth more than money and that's what I like to do. I mean, I got enough friends. I mean, all my friends that I grew up with, these are these are the only old people that I would like to be around me when it comes to doing music. Besides that, it's a younger game, so why? I mean, I'm not you got to put the younger generation on so they keep the wheel rolling and things like that. And that's just my mindset. A lot of people don't think so. A lot of older people still stuck in this should be their position of still being number one or still being that person or still being that nigga which you still can be. That Nothing takes away from that. As a matter of fact, I might add to you being that nigga if you are to show how selfless you are and helping everybody else around you I think that's what it adds.

Speaker 1: 17:25

For you like 100, it's a no-brainer. Thank you um, so yeah, salutes you. I'm really happy about it. Now I know summer's heating up. We got like summer in two weeks and you dropped a banger for it. We got two turn out right now yes uh, talk to me about that one. What's the mood? Because obviously, obviously, your music comes through phases which you're going through. So, 2 Turn. I'm like where's Jim at right now? What is this era?

Speaker 2: 17:55

Oh man, I mean 2 Turn. It was actually a record that Taylor and Dilla had did. I've been listening to it for like six months. We started doing the VL album that Taylor and Dilla had did. I've been listening to for like six months. On them we started doing the VL album.

Speaker 2: 18:04

But this record, every time I hear it I'm like no, this record is crazy. Y'all not listening to what I'm listening to. And a couple weeks ago I got to put a verse on it. The verse makes it down. It started to sound retarded. I started letting a few DJs hear it. It was like man, just here we are now. I just did Memorial Day. Every club I went into organically played that shit like five, six, seven times back to back. Like that shit crazy. So it was like it felt good to really have a record that I know organically is making DJs play it and things like that. And DJs in New York would call on my phone after I sent it back. I'm like, nah, you might got a heat rock on your hand. So two-turn, two-turn, two-turn. I've been two-turn all my life.

Speaker 1: 18:48

He's from Harlem, Of course. He's been two-turn, yes, but what I like about it is that really it's a feel-good record and I feel like we just need that energy right now.

Speaker 2: 19:00

I needed that energy too. I needed a record that uh, females and males could dive into and have a good time streets and in the clubs. Summertime the weather's changing for the cars. I guess I'm excited about this record. We just did the video in miami, so the video should be uh, dropping next week. That should be pretty dope. We did, did it. We went wild.

Speaker 1: 19:24

Where in Miami did y'all shoot it?

Speaker 2: 19:27

We shot it everywhere. We went to Booby Trap, we went to Live.

Speaker 3: 19:32

Oh.

Speaker 1: 19:32

Lord.

Speaker 2: 19:32

We was on a yacht, we was in the club, we went to Mr Jones, we just went on a full rant of going crazy. I mean they had me out till like eight in the morning at the strip club. I was so mad they would not leave. I ran out the club full speed.

Speaker 1: 19:50

Wait, did you shoot this Memorial Day weekend in Miami? Yes, no, yes, oh, I already know this video's about to be ratchet as hell, oh my God.

Speaker 2: 19:59

Super ratchet, super ratchet. They shooting a nissan ultima with all type of girls. It is. It's a fun, it's definitely a definitely a good energy video that's what's up.

Speaker 1: 20:09

When? When can we expect it? Um? I'm gonna drop it next friday all right cool yeah, drop it next friday all right, so I yeah, yeah, you're back outside summer times here yes are you working on a new project?

Speaker 2: 20:22

yes, um. Well, actually this this summer's uh, april 24th is the 20th year anniversary to my first album on my way to church, so I plan on doing a second installment named at the church steps. Um, the album is pretty much done already. I've been working on a few uh few surprises that helped me bring some more dopeness to the album. Yeah, this is what I've been excited to work on. And then we actually dropping a VL compilation album next month. The VL album with all my artists, two Turn, is the first single off the VL album and things like that, so I'm very, very excited about that.

Speaker 1: 21:03

That's really fire. I love the concept of at the church. That's dope as hell. Actually, Are you going to do an anniversary show?

Speaker 2: 21:12

Yeah, I'm trying to get all that together. I don't want to say the spot because I want to make sure I get it first, but I'm definitely doing a 20th anniversary concert.

Speaker 1: 21:21

Damn. Now that's cool. Love that All right and anniversary uh concert. Damn now, that's cool, love that all right, and and the compilation album's coming out too, yeah, next month next one.

Speaker 2: 21:32

Yes, then we got a busy year, busy summer, busy year. I have a few more other things coming, but this is just to start it off. This is going to be a snowball effect of projects I got coming love that.

Speaker 1: 21:42

I really do all. So we're going to play a game. It's called Questions that Need Answers. All you have to do is fill in the blank. All right, the older I get, the less I blink.

Speaker 2: 21:52

The older I get.

Speaker 3: 21:56

Please tell me you've grown up. Come on, we've seen it.

Speaker 2: 21:59

The older I get, the less I fight.

Speaker 1: 22:05

Okay, all right, that's great. I'm happy to hear that. Let's see, you would never believe me if I told you Blake.

Speaker 2: 22:17

You would never believe me if I told you anyway.

Speaker 1: 22:22

No low key. That's why I'm like all right, I hear you. Because I be seeing these little TMZ videos you know, what.

Speaker 2: 22:29

I'm saying I'm like they always get you.

Speaker 1: 22:31

Why do?

Speaker 3: 22:31

they always get you, or why do you always fall for it?

Speaker 2: 22:34

I should ask I don't know, I don't know man.

Speaker 1: 22:38

Every time you can't forget who you are. Man, fuck. But I be entertaining, honestly, every time I see it Only because I do. I know how annoying dealing with people can be, especially someone of your caliber. So it's just, it's funny, but it's not funny, all right. I can't believe I actually blanked when I was younger. So it's just, it's funny, but it's not funny, all right.

Speaker 2: 23:01

I can't believe I actually blanked when I was younger.

Speaker 1: 23:07

I can't believe I actually played baseball when I was younger. Interesting, hey, that's the one to do money-wise.

Speaker 2: 23:13

Yeah, I wish, would you good? I wish I would have knew back then. No, I wasn't as good as my cousin. My cousin was real good For what it's worth. I played a little baseball, a little first base.

Speaker 1: 23:23

All right, I like that.

Speaker 2: 23:29

I'm a little embarrassed by the fact that I know so little about blank. I'm a little embarrassed of the fact that I know so little about cooking.

Speaker 1: 23:37

Mmm, can you cook anything? Toast, toast.

Speaker 3: 23:47

My goodness, oh my goodness, yo you have a child.

Speaker 2: 23:53

What? Oh, thank God, he's grown.

Speaker 3: 23:56

Yeah, now what? Yo, my goodness Toast. That's crazy.

Speaker 1: 24:01

All right, you know what? At your anniversary show I'm bringing a cookbook man.

Speaker 2: 24:10

Sometimes I look back at my life and blink, smile. Yes, I come a long way. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 24:20

From time to to time it's good to do blank reflect I'm putting my little personal thing on this, but just asking do you reflect with the substance or is it? Is it sober? I like reflecting with shrooms quarterly oh, it seems that's.

Speaker 2: 24:34

that's a whole another reflection, like you really going there. But yeah, it's definitely reflect with a substance, like a WUSA moment, relaxing, cooling out, trying to find my into my space, like a little meditation, I mean really, because without reflection then where are you going? You know what I mean. You got to understand where you came from, to kind of understand where you're about to go.

Speaker 1: 24:57

Yep, that's true, I made a complete fool of myself when I blinked where you came from to kind of understand where you're about to go. Yep, that's true, I made a complete fool of myself.

Speaker 2: 25:04

When I blinked, I made a complete fool of myself. I make a complete fool of myself all the time. So many times Are you talking about these airport videos? I'm a complete fool of myself all the time. So many times you talk about these airport videos? I'm always man. I'm foolish, pardon me.

Speaker 1: 25:27

Do you even feel a way when you see those things?

Speaker 2: 25:31

No, I'm unbothered who cares it's life. I mean, we in a position where people look at us more than others, but I don't really care. I don't get embarrassed that easily, like you know what I mean. We're in a position where people look at us more than others, but I don't really care. It's not, I don't get embarrassed that easily, like you know what I mean. Like especially not about some shit that happened. I'd be more embarrassed about personal spaces, shit that happened. You know what I mean. Yeah Than shit that happened, like that. I'd be more embarrassed. Falling on the floor, I'd feel like a chump Well, floor, I feel like a chump well, that's understandable.

Speaker 1: 26:06

Uh, from time to, time it's good to do blank. From time to time it's good to do yoga.

Speaker 2: 26:12

What I know, I know y'all, all y'all fitness journey, but I ain't know yoga was on the list I was was going to say crack, but I don't think they would have understood that joke Yo.

Speaker 3: 26:20

Nah, this is good, all right, let me stop, let me stop.

Speaker 1: 26:29

So yoga for real.

Speaker 2: 26:30

Nah, this is joking, but yoga is cool. I've done yoga.

Speaker 1: 26:33

Tomatoes.

Speaker 2: 26:34

I've done yoga a few times.

Speaker 1: 26:36

I would love to see you do yoga. You should teach a yoga class.

Speaker 2: 26:41

I could do weeded yoga. I've done heated yoga, but they need to do weeded yoga. I could be the yogi of that you heard Definitely show you how to blow some weed. You heard.

Speaker 1: 26:53

That's hilarious. That would be cool, I would sign up. Alright, so talk to me about that's a.

Speaker 3: 26:57

That would be cool, I would sign up, all right, so talk to me about that's a skit.

Speaker 2: 27:01

we need to do Weeding yoga.

Speaker 1: 27:03

That would be, that would be ill.

Speaker 2: 27:06

Be a nice skit, right, and living color rich.

Speaker 1: 27:08

Cut that part out. I want parts, you want parts?

Speaker 2: 27:11

Yes, all right, let's do that, let's do that.

Speaker 1: 27:14

And then the last question is my personality trait is blank.

Speaker 2: 27:18

My personality trait is wild.

Speaker 1: 27:22

Wild or wild Wild.

Speaker 2: 27:25

Wild Wild.

Speaker 1: 27:26

I can see that.

Speaker 2: 27:30

It's different A little bit of yeah, I'm bipolar a little bit, I think, dyslexic too.

Speaker 1: 27:40

Like it's got a lot going on. Hey, I guess it adds character.

Speaker 2: 27:44

Yes, yes, yes, yes, it adds character. If they don't call you crazy, then you're definitely not going the way of life.

Speaker 1: 27:52

Damn, does it have to be that extreme?

Speaker 2: 27:56

I mean.

Speaker 1: 27:59

Do you feel like it? Because I feel like it seems like that, but does it have to be?

Speaker 2: 28:03

Most people that call me crazy. I end up pretty much having my way in that situation. Ah, okay, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1: 28:11

Yeah, sometimes they just don't get it at first, I guess, yeah, they don't really, I mean they get it.

Speaker 2: 28:18

That's why they first, I guess yeah, don't really, I mean they get it. That's why they say you crazy, but it really means that they smart and they adore you.

Speaker 1: 28:25

Love that.

Speaker 2: 28:25

You know what I mean.

Speaker 1: 28:26

Hey, call me crazy, alright, I'm trying to be like Jimmy. I'm trying to be here for a minute, For real. I want to be here for a long time and I want to be respected. So you know. Thank you for coming.

Speaker 2: 28:38

It's very easy to do both.

Speaker 1: 28:41

No, it's not. Not everybody is making it, I'm just saying.

Speaker 2: 28:45

I mean, yeah, but not everybody has the proper mindset to make it.

Speaker 1: 28:49

Yeah, do you think, or you did say that earlier because you had the business aspect that helped you to have that foresight.

Speaker 2: 28:57

Yeah, that has a lot to it, but if you're chosen, you're chosen and you can feel that you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that you are one of the chosen ones.

Speaker 1: 29:08

Thank you, thank you, I'm receiving that. Thank you, and thank you for coming on the show.

Speaker 2: 29:13

Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1: 29:14

I know everybody knows who you are, but just shout out your gram.

Speaker 2: 29:16

The Kobe Capo, Jim Jones Capo. You can follow me on the gram, all them other social media things or whatever. The big nine, not the little one. We in the building, like I told you before. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1: 29:31

Of course. Until next time, guys Talk soon. Peace Cheers.