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Kehlani Talks "Crash" Album Creation, Balancing Motherhood and Fame, Artistic Integrity, & Future Collaborations!
Kehlani has a story that is both compelling and deeply relatable. Imagine living with numerical dyslexia while balancing a thriving music career and motherhood. In our heartfelt conversation, Kehlani opens up about these challenges and how they have shaped her new album, "Crash." She takes us behind the scenes of its creation, sharing the emotional highs and wild adventures that inspired it. From crazy Vegas trips to the joys and struggles of being a parent in the limelight, Kehlani's journey is full of genuine moments and valuable insights.
Ever wondered how an artist manages to create music that is both personally fulfilling and commercially successful? Kehlani sheds light on navigating the delicate balance between artistic integrity and industry expectations. She also emphasizes the importance of fitness and mental well-being, revealing her empowering journey of self-expression and advocacy. Social media platforms like TikTok have played a significant role in her self-education, and she shares the joy of receiving support from her artistic community.
Our chat wouldn’t be complete without diving into Kehlani’s musical collaborations. The episode highlights the magic of blending talents, like the unique partnership between Jill Scott and Young Miko, creating tracks that resonate deeply with fans. Kehlani gives us a glimpse into the cultural significance of serenading in R&B, amusing live performance anecdotes, and the dynamics of performing with a significant other. Plus, we touch on her musical influences, the authenticity of her work, and what fans can look forward to in future collaborations. Join us for a rich tapestry of personal anecdotes, professional wisdom, and heartfelt reflections.
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Kehlani has a story that is both compelling and deeply relatable. Imagine living with numerical dyslexia while balancing a thriving music career and motherhood. In our heartfelt conversation, Kehlani opens up about these challenges and how they have shaped her new album, "Crash." She takes us behind the scenes of its creation, sharing the emotional highs and wild adventures that inspired it. From crazy Vegas trips to the joys and struggles of being a parent in the limelight, Kehlani's journey is full of genuine moments and valuable insights.
Ever wondered how an artist manages to create music that is both personally fulfilling and commercially successful? Kehlani sheds light on navigating the delicate balance between artistic integrity and industry expectations. She also emphasizes the importance of fitness and mental well-being, revealing her empowering journey of self-expression and advocacy. Social media platforms like TikTok have played a significant role in her self-education, and she shares the joy of receiving support from her artistic community.
Our chat wouldn’t be complete without diving into Kehlani’s musical collaborations. The episode highlights the magic of blending talents, like the unique partnership between Jill Scott and Young Miko, creating tracks that resonate deeply with fans. Kehlani gives us a glimpse into the cultural significance of serenading in R&B, amusing live performance anecdotes, and the dynamics of performing with a significant other. Plus, we touch on her musical influences, the authenticity of her work, and what fans can look forward to in future collaborations. Join us for a rich tapestry of personal anecdotes, professional wisdom, and heartfelt reflections.
Talk Soon! ✌🏾
Stay connected! Follow @wnttlk on all platforms.
I'm a little embarrassed by the fact that I know so little about.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm numerically dyslexic so I'm going to say math by default. It's not that I know little, it's like I physically have a learning disability so I cannot do numbers. And it is embarrassing. Like I go to the restaurant and they're like how many for your table? And I'm like, oh man, at the restaurant I got fired from every job that I worked at, like some type of cash register or dealing with tips, because I would always give them the wrong money back. Fuck, yeah, yeah, yeah. They were like, are you stealing? And I was like, absolutely not running cameras back, but I was just giving people too much fucking change back.
Speaker 1:Wow, I wish you was my cashier Bro bro, what's up guys?
Speaker 2:It's Kehlani. My new album, Crash, is out everywhere now. What's up, Nyla? We need to talk what's?
Speaker 1:going on guys. Nyla Simone here with another episode of we Need To Talk, and today I got a very special guest in the building. We got Baylani I mean Kehlani in the building. How are you? I'm good. How are you? I'm good, I'm so happy to of you for so long. I think Cloud 19 dropped when I was in college, so I feel like we came of age together.
Speaker 2:I came of age to your music. Yeah, we grew up together, nice, nice yeah.
Speaker 1:And also my best friend, sean, told me make sure you mention this. But when you were on tour I think it was your first tour I went to it in Amsterdam. Okay, first time getting high, my first time seeing you live. So I just have so many memories to you and your music, so it was really nice to actually interview you. Oh, I love that Nice. I'm happy to be here, of course. Okay, so let's get into it. Crash is out now, and I just want to start with. Why Crash? Why the name?
Speaker 2:You know the definition of a crash and don't quote me because I don't mean like Webster definition but a crash is the highest moment of whatever, like it's the impact. It's not like the thinking about it before and it's not like the remembering it after. It's like whatever is happening. If it's a wave crashing, if it's a car crash, if it's crashing a website, whatever it is, it's like car crash. If it's crashing a website, whatever it is, it's like that peak, like emotion. And it's just this moment where you're like can I cuss on here? Yeah, like what the fuck. So to me I knew, based on how everything was starting to sound, that it was going to be something that to the, to the listener at first, was very what the fuck, and didn't exactly make sense until they took a second with it.
Speaker 1:So I could see that was this, was this, and I guess you mean sonically sonically yeah, yeah, yeah it is lyrically, it sounds like me definitely and that's what I was telling my friend. I was like it's very international but it's still very K-Live yeah, for sure, I'm always talk a little bit of shit yeah, but was it based on a real night in Vegas or a real weekend in Vegas?
Speaker 2:No, I go to Vegas so often but I also kind of have like this like not to be head ass but like this internal Vegas.
Speaker 2:That's always kind of like this fine line of like fun and like high spirited, like adrenaline thing that happens in my life throughout, you know, in between being a mom and also having a career and like things thing that happens in my life throughout, you know, in between being a mom and also having a career and like things like that. This like finding this like wild, kind of like through line that happens that to me crash it on a on a storyboarded sense. Is this like wild trip to Vegas that ends in this sobering thought of like okay, reality setting in and like this what it really feels like at the end of it? But yeah, I feel like it just represents me in this like um in in this elusive storyboarded kind of way. But no, it's not. It's not a detailed, actual trip that I actually took, but I'm there way too fucking often, so it's kind of like an accumulation maybe okay, because it does sound like it.
Speaker 1:I'm like, damn, she had a fucking time and oh, I have a time every time I can see. I can see that only because you know, I've seen your parties, I've seen your, your album signings like oh it's turn, it's madness, it's turn. It's crazy how does it feel? You're not you're not new to this, so it's not like you're not used to it, but does it get old?
Speaker 2:no, it doesn't. I think, because I I don't have expectations, like I don't, I don up and I'm like it's going to be like this and it's going to be like this and I have to knock this and this and this out. I really walk with the. I'm grateful for whatever comes my way, especially because we're in a time where I'm only 29. Those are very fast careers. They're these, like you get a song, you crack it off on TikTok and it happens. Or there's people I came out with at the same time as that don't exist anymore. Like the career has completely dissipated. So for me to be in a place where somehow, miraculously, it grows every year is really special to me. I didn't expect this signing in New York to go the way that it went. I was like all right, but like it probably was at its peak. Maybe it was good until it wasn't. But now we're here at Crash and like that was the craziest shit I ever experienced.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, what? What do you think it is like? Why do you think you have that longevity? I have my idea, but why do you think it is?
Speaker 2:I think I just been honest. I don't know. I don't think I've ever, like I pay special attention to my fans. I think I've cultivated them in a way where they really do feel like the epicenter of my career, which they are. It's not this like numbers ploy or this like hyper mysterious I'm trying to feed you a package. I think they care about me in a special way that, like I'm very fortunate, I'm very blessed to have that like support system. Like they care well beyond the music. They care if my mental health is going well. They care about my daughter.
Speaker 2:They care about my family Like they care in a real way.
Speaker 1:I don't know. The reason why I think you're lasting longer than other people is because you just stay true to you. Because even when you started getting mainstream and you signed to Atlantic, I was so nervous because I'm like, oh, she's about to go mainstream. So I was low-key, disappointed. But then I heard the project and I'm like, oh no, I love it here. Yeah, we're rocking.
Speaker 2:They let me do me for real yeah. Thank God, we've had some moments where there's been like, let's put out this song, and then I go, you know, I have the one I really want to drop, and then they're like all right, we hear you. So bless them.
Speaker 1:Yo, it's important because I was so nervous, but it's difference and just being able to maintain that connection with your music. Thank you, um. But that being said, um, yeah, I was nervous when you signed, but you, you kept your authenticity and then even fast forward to this project, my favorite one on here so far. I feel like it always changes, but right now it's deep. Yes, yeah, I love, because I love the story, like it's so true, we've seen it and it's just. I think it's also relatable to anybody who's just grinding and like building. But for you, when you were making deep, what, what were you thinking or like? What triggered that storytelling you?
Speaker 2:know I'm gonna give a lot of credit to the person I made it with bb relly. She's a genius, like I feel like her level of like don't give a fuck and her level of like. We just have really similar stories. We come from really similar backgrounds completely different sides of the world, but really similar backgrounds and she knows my story. So it was really cool to be able to like create that with her but to be able to say like, just know, when you see me thriving, like when you see me outside, when you see me looking the way I look, presenting myself the way I present, just know all that it took to get here.
Speaker 2:This shit is really deep for real. I've really like it really is and also like my the, the crowd vocals screaming in the background is my sister, my goddaughter, like, and my daughter's on the song. You know ad-libbing at the end, but it was just special because it's it's. I don't think I think I make a lot of love songs. I think I make a lot of songs reflecting, you know, relationships and you know things in the heart space, but it's not often I've got to just be like actually y'all. Let's take a second to remember like my life has been crazy and it took a lot to get here, and I'm grateful.
Speaker 2:So I'm glad we have that one and I'm really excited to sing that on tour. Yeah, I think it's gonna be ridiculous.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, sleeping on floors. I was like man, she really, she really did that. Yeah, no, it's a true story. It's a true story. How does it? Well, speaking of tour, what is the plan? Because I've seen you. I've seen you several times actually. I've seen you at that time in Amsterdam, then I saw you at PlayStation Theater, I think for the um, sexy Savage, right that was. Sexy Savage yeah, I've seen you several times. It's a lot that goes into it. I feel like a lot of people don't even take the time to yeah, do choral, to stage design, etc.
Speaker 1:What are we giving for this? Because it's so international, it's like how do you even take a stab at that?
Speaker 2:Man, honestly, I'm going to do it the same way I made the music. I'm going to just also have that many different genres of fun on tour, like I want to dance, I want to play guitar, I want to stage dive, I want to headbang. I want to have vulnerable moments where think like I'm at the point where, like seven projects in this isn't like I have to prove myself yeah or I have to like kind of force grab any kind of fan base like the.
Speaker 2:Obviously the wish and the hope is that, you know, more people become welcomed in as the time goes on. But I'm really just here to have a blast with everybody who already loves me and I'm here to have like the most fun with myself and the most fun with my friends and I've given a lot during my career to just like succumbing to what was asked of me, to just be like let me show up and like they're expecting this for me and they're expecting this.
Speaker 1:But I'm really in a position right now where I'm like I just want to do what the fuck makes me happy and what's the most fun, and I think that's why this album came out the way it did and it's why the tour is going to be so fun, because I'm it's just going to be as much all over the place and just as chaotic as the album. So, yeah, I love that and I to circle back to deep, I really fuck with the fact that you're saying it is that deep and I saw like I think you posted this a few months ago like I'm when you see me fresh skin, whatever, like I'm the healthiest and the happiest I've ever been. Yo, your fitness journey has been insane, thank you, talk to me about that. And like I guess what was the turning point where you were like let me buckle down Because you've already been like fit, but then I feel like maybe like four years ago, you just kind of got like I got buff.
Speaker 1:I'm a little buff under here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, I think, when it became mental for me, when it became like this is for my sanity, this is for my routine, this is for my like. I don't get a lot of alone time. I'm a mom as well as. Like I live very communally. Like I live with all my friends, all my friends live with me, everybody takes turns living with me. Like really, yeah, yeah, my two, my two best friends live with me. Before that it was my two other best friends at some point, ombre and destin live with me. Like before that it was my other best friends from high school.
Speaker 2:Like I house my family, I live in like a big space with everybody with me and so like sometimes the gym is like the only time I get to just like plug in my headphones besides like driving in the car. Sometimes I go take a drive, but the gym tends to be my only place. That is like I just go in there and zone in even the studios communal. You know you have like your engineer and your producer and all that. So that gave me this meditative, like dolo, little like escape to be able to just like do something that was good for me and honestly, and anybody who's in the gym often also knows like you feel off when you don't go.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I love it. I gotta get to that point because I, you know, I get in, I get out like I have the hardest part. Yeah, the hardest part.
Speaker 2:The hardest part is going. And then the second hardest part is when you realize you've hit a plateau and you have to redesign your plan, your routine, because you stop, you stop growing, or stop you know, you stop changing. So, yeah, lord, all right are you there?
Speaker 1:is that what you're happening? This was inspiring. I think like, okay, I get up, I wake up. Okay, I feel like for me, being able to wake up early is a start, then getting to the gym is another start but, for me it's routine, so I just do treadmill only, but it's like not really enough.
Speaker 1:You gotta go lift. I know I'm just gotta lift, I gotta gotta lift heavy. I think I need somebody to show me what the hell I'm doing, because I be feeling silly. I'm not gonna lie, I feel silly in the gym.
Speaker 2:You know I actually learned everything I know about the gym off TikTok. What, what, yeah, every single thing. I had a trainer for a second and when I say a second I literally mean one session and I was like you know, I'm not really into being told what to do, and the one time of my life that is only mine. And I just got on the internet and started learning. And they be teaching me. Shout out to all the fine fitness girlies. I follow Because that's where I get it from. That's fire.
Speaker 1:All right, I'm going to have to tap into that. I got you. I'll send you the playlist, please do so. Let's talk about what I want. I would say that's my second favorite Type. The flip is crazy. Thank you.
Speaker 2:Did Christina hear it? She did.
Speaker 1:She actually made a video. She's been super supportive. That's fire. Yeah, I like what you did with that. Thank you. Talk to me about the messaging and that, because I feel like for women, we're not really allowed to be that, yeah, vocal about what we want, what we don't want, what we like, what we don't like why is it gay?
Speaker 2:I think we're different. I think I think we get to say whatever we want, whenever we want and like, as long as we resonate within our community. That's how I feel, like I try to like honestly and I'm just going to sound crazy when I say it. But if I could poof and I could just somehow end up in a world that was just lesbians, I mean queer women I just would, because the way that we innately understand each other and we like can speak in that way, there isn't much explanation. So like can speak in that way, there isn't much explanation. So like.
Speaker 2:That song to me just make perfect sense of like how we all speak, like it is very super sexual. So I won't pin the super sexual on everybody, but just on some like fly shit and like some fun shit. Like we don't have many for us. Like we don't have many fly, like shit-talking, like sexual, like exciting songs that are are like for us and by us. So just wanted to get that one off, no, you you did that, thank you you did that, um, and then okay, sucia, sucia, sucia.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, jill scott and young miko. First of all, I was looking at the collab.
Speaker 2:I see the jill scott behind your head.
Speaker 1:It's great big jilly fan same, but young miko was new to me, so I like this introduction. I think it's a clash of two different worlds, but I like how you did it, because who could set the tone better than jill?
Speaker 2:oh my god, yeah, freaky auntie og the og is freak of all time no, for real.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this in my adult years, going back and listening to this album, I'm like wow, who?
Speaker 2:let me listen to this. This is disgusting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I love it and personally I think the way it's sequenced is brilliant the skits, the storytelling, like the fact that I can listen to it, you know, 20 years later and it still hits the same Exactly. But what was it like working with?
Speaker 2:Jill, it was a trip. Honestly, it was just Jill on the song before young Miko like she had a verse, and then I'm like, okay, this song is called Sucia and I love Miko and, if you think about it, me and Miko are kind of like each other in alternate universes like definitely given that literally she's the Latin world, me, and I'm the American her.
Speaker 2:And when I hit her up she was like holy shit, I've been a fan for so long and I'm like I'm a fan. Like what can we do? I sent her the song and I thought like damn, how are we gonna fit both of these people on this song? Because I really I don't know if anybody from either world is gonna get the other.
Speaker 2:But I ended up like deconstructing Jill's verse because there's more to it, and like constructing an intro out of it and making it the intro. And at first Jill was like what the fuck happened to my verse when I was like trust me, it comes after a song called Eight. It makes perfect sense because the Koochie Eating song ends and then you say I'm nasty, it's a layup. It really was. And then I sent her Eight and she got to hear it in sequence and she was like holy shit, this is great. And I was just like it's all. You Like you're a genius. And she's been super supportive. Like the second the album came out, she listened to it and she was like this is crazy. Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1:And like so don't know who that is, but I'm fucking excited.
Speaker 2:And then she heard it and loved it and honestly, it makes sense when you hear it. It really does. That's what.
Speaker 1:I was like the way you combine these worlds is crazy.
Speaker 2:I was shook. I was like people are going to see it on the track list and be like what the fuck Yo literally, Literally.
Speaker 1:And then even Omelette. Especially after the year Omelette had, I'm like, oh no, she's wildin'. Yeah, Took that tour with the girl.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But then the girl yeah, uh-huh. I remember that she brought her boyfriend, or was it her fiance or something, just her boyfriend.
Speaker 1:Just her boyfriend. But anyway, honestly, but anyway it was a moment, honestly, I know how it is.
Speaker 2:I know how it is. You'd be doing that at concerts. I mean, I sing to people live and sometimes it doesn't always end well, really. Yeah, there's definitely been some moments where like let me find out.
Speaker 1:come on out here, ruin it home, go to work.
Speaker 2:Oh no, I will literally DM the partner and be like I'm super sorry, it's just part of the show, like, please, it's nothing, like they're allowed to just be a fan like I have. I've definitely stitched some situations. Well, that's good and we should do that. Yeah, I mean, it's part of the show.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that would be crazy see, that's why, when the whole usher biggest residency thing was happening, I'm like I think the niggas just gotta give us a pass. It's fucking usher.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think like it's been done for so long, like people getting brought on stage or sang to or like whatever. Serenading is a part of R&B culture. It's a part of singing culture in general. Now I wouldn't know what to do if my girl went on stage with her favorite rapper and I'm like I don't know, that's not Usher, though. I mean, if Megan Thee Stallion comes out and steals my girlfriend, I'm going to be super sad. If it's Megan, you might have a problem, but that's my homegirl. So I'll be like wow, did you have to? But also I might be like wow, she's too fine for all of that. That's like fucked up. So maybe that's how boys feel about Usher Prob. Okay, all right, you Is Meg my usher. Is that what we're coming to? I can see that, okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's definitely there. She's there, okay. And then talk about Groove Theory. It's the intro. When I first heard it, I literally thought it was about to be, tell Me.
Speaker 2:And then I was like, oh wait. Everybody was like we're getting a Groove Theory sample.
Speaker 1:Like I just knew.
Speaker 2:No, the song is called Groove and, honestly, the way we put together the two part of it felt scientific, which is why it's Groove Theory. Okay, yeah, so I made the first half of it with this really brilliant artist named Mami. She's incredible. We should check her out. She is not only an incredible like instrumentalist and just like super genius crafter, but like her music that she drops is super incredible.
Speaker 2:And so we did that half, and in the second half I did with my boy, dixon, who I did a lot of stuff on this album with. He's super incredible, and when I heard when we had the first half, I knew it had to have a second half. I just didn't know it was going to end up being that one, because they came miles apart, like those came at completely different times in the album process, and so we stitched it together and it just made perfect sense to me. I didn't know it was going to be the intro, but when it was suggested to me by my A&R, she was like, look, I have a brilliant idea, maybe let's put that as the intro. And I was like I kind of would be geeked up if the first line I heard was I'm not the one and I'm kind of crazy, I would be ready for the rest of the album.
Speaker 1:I think it's just the tone. Yeah, I feel like it's just the cool tone. I think so too. Talk about because you took me international, all over the world. We're in Africa, we're in fucking South America and then all of a sudden we get a country record. Yeah, I was like what the fuck is this? But I actually really liked it. There's no whoever produced it. Who's producing?
Speaker 2:His name is Oak Oak Felder. He's done a lot of stuff on Sweet Sexy Savage. But he did that Originally. It was started by this guy, lou Elastic, who does all of Destin's stuff. Him and Destin actually started this little jumble version of Better Not in the first week of making my album and I finished it and it was only an interlude and it was just these little clicky sounds and a guitar and then I was like you know what? I've been thinking about this song a lot and I don't think I want to interlude, but it'd be really crazy if it was a country song because it sounds twangy. So then I took it to oak. I had oak reproduce it and then I finished it as a country song and it took him telling me to not be embarrassed as I sang it with a twang because it has an extra country twang as I'm singing it. But I had to really get out of my comfort zone to make myself do that. But I'm glad I did because it sounds fine, it sounds good.
Speaker 1:Thank you, that's funny. Okay, that's funny that he had to like chill.
Speaker 2:You're in a good pocket. Yeah, he was like, just do it. He was like do the vowels change your voice.
Speaker 1:I was like all right let's fucking go. Project I like the direction, but not to get into your catalog, but I have to because this is my first time interviewing. All right, let's do it all. So the music, soul, child, collab, footsteps, hey, love, love, love that record. Talk to me, you work with all the greats and I think that's what I love the most, because I can just tell you're a fan of music too and it speaks to other people who are fans of music.
Speaker 1:But when that dropped, talk to me just about collaborating with him, man I mean I referenced music.
Speaker 2:So, child, on my first album I quoted him, or my first project, I quoted him on my second and that might be reversed. I honestly can't remember. I was little and he's my. He's my favorite, he's my favorite, he's just my favorite. He's in my top five, he always will be. He knows that, like he's one of, he's my favorite, he's just my favorite, he's in my top five. He always will be. He knows that. He's one of the reasons I started making music. I didn't grow up on R&B, I grew up on neo soul.
Speaker 2:So I didn't discover R&B until I was already like nine or ten, but up until then it was all neo soul. So music was like super large for me. I made the song and I just remember being in the studio and being like I'm going to take a, I'm a risk it for the biscuit and I'm going to DM him. I'm going to DM him and just be like listen, I adore you and would you be down? And he was super down and sent the verse back and like he's just sweet, he's honestly sweet and he's a fan of music. So he keeps up with everyone, everyone. He did something with Destin like it's incredible. I'm keep referencing Destin because it's like my close proximity, but like yeah, he music, just he keeps up with what's going on. I'm sure he would collab with anybody who was a very large fan of him because he just appreciates people that appreciate him. So love that.
Speaker 1:I love the music community, all right. Another record I wanted to ask you about well, actually, toxic what, what era? Because I feel like you, you go in and out of toxicity, yeah, with your albums, yeah, but I feel like that one was like pinnacle toxic you know I was in a toxic situation.
Speaker 2:I was in a toxic, very public, toxic relationship and, um, I just write true to where I'm at, like I didn't, I don't, I don't really like to come out and just put my stuff on the internet like there. There used to be a time of that when I was a lot younger, like 1920, where I would like put something out myself. I'd be tweeting heavier, I would get on Instagram and be like, yeah, this is what's going on and just like put my shit on blast. But if I have the opportunity to put in the music, that's where I'll choose to speak about it. So Toxic just came from that. And I really was drinking a lot of Don Julio during that album. I think I say tequila like four times on that project.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know me and my friends were talking about it. We always go over albums like and then this and this. But that's one thing we said.
Speaker 2:It's like it's literally a snapshot of where you're at in life. That was a drunk ass heartbroken turned up album for sure.
Speaker 1:Hey, man, we've all been there, so the soundtrack's for us too. And then even on this new project you did this, I was gonna say, with blue water road. I really like the hip-hop elements you always include, like there's always like a, a reference production wise to it. Um, is that you cooking that like honestly, it's my producers.
Speaker 2:I'll never like take credit for what's not mine. The producers are incredible and I'm fortunate to be around really musical people who also grew up um around very heavy musical influence. I I was really early managed and grew up by Tony Tony Tony, like they kind of raised me. Oh, I did not know that. Yeah, my original manager is Dwayne Wiggins of Tony Tony, tony and Tony and I was in a band with his sons, so for six years that was who taught me. That was my reference and the producers I had. So I'm assuming you're talking about I Wish I Never. Maybe. Yeah, that's Pop Onzel. Pop grew up around the Soulquarians and also grew up in Philly with a lot of really imperative R&B and hip hop like super notorious. You know people like that. So it's cool to get to nerd out with people hell yeah, who like have that obsession with like referencing shit that they love no, it's great.
Speaker 1:I love all of it. I pick or maybe I'm just nerdy with it, but I love that. Yeah, good, um, but damn, raphael Sadiq. I know you mentioned your top five.
Speaker 2:I'm curious to hear what your top five is, but Raphael Sadiq is definitely in my top yeah, on some musical genius like like f, all the vocals, even like, if we're just saying pure musicality. Oh my god, rafael sadiq might be top two. Yeah, no bullshit. Yeah, yeah, especially for the stuff that he's also just purely behind. I know, incredible, yeah, incredible. My top five I might fuck this up and like have to tweet about this later. Um, in no particular order either stevie wonder music so child, oh nice, oh perfect. Um, um, it's going to be funny, but Switch the group pre like it was like before DeBarge. Okay, I think it was before DeBarge.
Speaker 2:Was Switch before or after DeBarge, like I don't know Um yeah, maybe just throw DeBarge in there, um Rai, carey, and then I'm going gonna go. Lauren just off off, strength off rip. Yeah, but jill might also, she might be six yeah like in the six, but those might jumble up all the time, depending on like jill, erica and lauren.
Speaker 2:I'd like them yeah, but then you have to add the four and it's in the IRE, which I think. Why do people leave her out of that four? Because we always go Jill, lauren, erica, but then we forget India. But maybe it's because she never had a toxic run and everybody else got a little more like turnt and she gave us like real, like she did the whole time. She really did, but she's in there, she's in there, she's in there, she's a part of that, like she is mount rushmore. That's a good point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm sorry and do. Yes, she knows I love her. I've been her dms all the time, like so how you doing collab on the way I hope so shit are we. Are you gonna do a deluxe for this album? You know?
Speaker 2:I feel different ways about deluxes. I I am really anti stuff that very obviously feels like it's for the sales and I feel like oftentimes this whole thing about I'm gonna drop three different deluxes and continuations of an album just kind of fucks with the art and I could be over arting it. But something about deluxe is like I, it just feels obvious these days. It doesn't feel like I had more songs to give you. It feels like I want this also to chart and it contributes to the streaming. It's a smart move and it's a smart move. I don't know. But I am considering just going to the studio and making a little six-pack that's not attached to this project at all to just have, because I don't tour till the fall and it's barely summer. So, but you know you heard it here first at that point yeah, I mean, look shit after hours.
Speaker 1:This project alone is gonna get us through to the fall. But the only reason why I brought up the deluxe is because I'm like loki, would love to hear that jill verse, the whole jill verse.
Speaker 2:You know what I might just drop? I might I could just drop it. I'll see if she'll. Let me just like put it on the internet, just because yeah yeah, she smacked it I. I think she could say fucking gibberish on a song and I would be just as geeked.
Speaker 1:So speak yo, I really love when you rap. Thank you. Yeah, I know you dabble in and out of it definitely dabbling, do you not like it, no, I love it.
Speaker 2:I think with the rapping man it's the same way I feel about directing and photography. I do direct and I can, and I do take photos and I can, but I don't call myself either of those things because I respect it so much. I respect rap. I really respect rap to where I would not ever just claim rapper and I also wouldn't say like I be rapping, I would just be like sometimes I melodically like say words in a little different way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just because I respect it so much like I love it that's what's up.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of people out here who rap, who don't even respect it that much, so it's kind of like what I mean?
Speaker 2:shit. New genres, it's all these sub genres. I fuck with it. Whatever, yes, it is okay.
Speaker 1:Now let's talk about motherhood and then being an artist at the same time. Yeah, how are you balancing that?
Speaker 2:it's hard. It's really hard, I think, especially when you have to beat all of the things out of yourself that are standards that were created by society. Yeah, um, my daughter's obsessed with my career. She, she loves what I do, she loves supporting me, she loves coming to my job. She's every day. Mommy, can I go to work? Absolutely, she comes to work with me.
Speaker 2:I think when you, when you portray a version of motherhood that is on like it doesn't exist to certain people, like there was times I had to explain to, like my family, like you guys, got the opportunity to be stay-at-home moms, or you got the opportunity to just have a like a set schedule mine doesn't look like that, so I do have to take her to all these places with me, or sometimes I can't take her to these places with me I think that it's been super interesting to navigate just understanding what being a good mother means without using society's definition to explain that.
Speaker 2:And then also, like being famous is weird because you have to tell your kid they can't talk to strangers, but people know they're in your kid's name, you're strangers, you know. And then deciding if you're going to allow your kid to be seen on the Internet or if you're going to allow your kid to just grow up completely separate from that, and there's just so many nuances and I didn't have an example of what being a mother looked like in this way, so it's all new to me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's actually really cool and inspiring to see, though. Thank you.
Speaker 2:You guys do that and balance it in the limelight. Oh man, she's the coolest kid in the world. She's so cool, so it's easy.
Speaker 1:So what did you decide on? Are you okay with her or do you think, when time comes, she can have her own social media?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think, when the time comes. I think it's not even about oh, I don't want her to see anything about herself or me. I truly believe time works like science, and seeing the effects of things work in timelines of like 20, 30 years, like we are just now seeing what the effects of growing up on a TV show for child stars are looking like when they're talking about it in their adulthood right now and we were watching them when we were kids and they were teenagers slash young adults. We won't see the effects of what putting a five-year-old on the internet in 2024 looks like until my kid is an adult to speak about it. We don't have the science to back it up, so I'm not gonna subject her to something that I can't guarantee she'll be okay through during the end.
Speaker 2:I don't know what kind of support that's going to require, what type of mental health that's going to require. I mean mental health support that's going to require. I don't know how to facilitate that. There's no example, so I'd rather do it the way that ensured I had a safe childhood which was just letting me be a kid. I wasn't raised famous. I didn't have a bunch of eyes on me. I get embarrassed when my mom whips out fucking home videos and pictures of me to my friends that I do know. So I can't imagine to strangers. Yeah, like what my kid is gonna grow up and be like. Damn, he put me on the internet my most vulnerable moments to strangers, so yeah, no, that's a good point.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna let her rock. She's rocking good. Yeah, I'm curious to see that too. I think about that all the time it's a trick.
Speaker 2:It's like baby influencers. For what?
Speaker 2:but some of them are the breadwinner you know, yeah, but man, it's just like, at what cost? Like at what cost? At what point does a kid grow up and decide, like, also, when you make your child the breadwinner? That creates this dynamic between the parent and the child where, like, all things can just fly past you because at the end of the day, it's making the money, so you don't, you don't exactly always put the, the needs or what's best for the child at the forefront of the mind, because you're like, at the end of the day, this is paying the bills. Like it's just too many. It's too too many iffy things that I just have never seen it done before in a proper way. So I'm going to just keep her safe. People sometimes forget I have a kid because I don't post her so much. So I'm like, hey, whatever you thought, she's living her best life. She's having a fucking fantastic life. She loves me, I love her, she's adored, she's well taken care of, that's all that matters.
Speaker 1:Yeah, talk to me about, because I love to see you surfing. Thank you, I love that. I love watching you start that. Does she surf?
Speaker 2:No, she had a water scare. Okay, she had a water scare in Hawaii, like on my last tour when we ended the tour in Hawaii, where we were in the west side and we got in the water and like my friend was holding her and just too big of a wave came and it like pushed her onto the shore and now she's like super anti-ocean at the moment. But I have hope, yeah, I have hope. I got hope at least you'll get in with floaties now, but before she wouldn't get in at all understandable hell I probably would be traumatized too.
Speaker 1:It's a tough one, yeah, but I I love seeing you do that and I I just I really enjoy watching you go through your journey of finding like your my side quest oh, yeah, whatever, thank you. But talk to me about surfing. How long did it take you to actually get good at it? Because I've done it a few times and I could do it with my knees bending, yeah, but once I stand up, it's over, it's a real trust it's a real trust in your body that you're like I really think that's over.
Speaker 2:It's a real trust. It's a real trust in your body that you're like I really think that's what it is. People always make it about balance, but I really think it's about trust. It's like I'm gonna plant myself here body okay, you got this like be fearless and just stand on it. It's when you get up there and you're like I don't know what I'm doing and then you start blacking out, falling. But it maybe took me like three or four months of consistently surfing to feel like I was allowed to say I wasn't at the beach learning from my friend, but we were actually just going to surf together. I do remember what that moment was, when we like got out, we got dressed, we got in the water and we caught a couple waves and I was like wait a minute, like we're just going for a surf, like we're surfing with each other.
Speaker 2:You're not giving me tips, you're not telling me when the waves coming. I can fully read the ocean, like I know what's going on, like okay, and now it's been a little over two years and I'm having a blast. That's fire.
Speaker 1:That's my favorite thing. I I'm so jealous. I wish I looked by the ocean. I really do.
Speaker 2:I mean, rockaway has some really beautiful waves. I don't know if that sounds crazy to you guys, I know that's far, but I do, for the record. Everybody watching have some really incredible friends who surf in Rockaway. They're black surfers and they're on a mission to get more black people in the water Really, and they do lessons and they also do skate lessons and they're incredible and if y'all want that, I got it for y'all.
Speaker 1:I used to live down the street from that beach but never went. I don't know. I don't trust New York beaches.
Speaker 2:It's really good waves, it's really warm water. Y'all actually don't have to have wetsuits. We have to have wetsuits year round because our water's freezing. Y'all water's not freezing. It's like jellyfish birthing season, but they can't sting until they're adults. So you're good.
Speaker 1:I don't even know what I'm trying to.
Speaker 2:If you don't mind sticking your hand through some mush here and there, then you're good.
Speaker 1:I personally love it, I'll be a rock away. Is it mush from the jellyfish or from the seaweed? Kind of a combination of both Interesting. Is it like that? Is it a SpongeBob?
Speaker 2:It's a little like slimy, but it's not like that all the time. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, you'll be good, you'll have fun.
Speaker 1:Interesting. I'm going to have to tap in because I do, I like it and I'm nature obsessed.
Speaker 2:You'll have so much fun. My friends are great.
Speaker 1:All right, okay, so on the show we play. Oh, actually, I have one more question. You're always have been and you took a stand um during this, this genocide, genocide that's happening, but what made you want to be forward-facing and actually participate in the rally?
Speaker 2:um, I had an opportunity to be publicly pro-Palestine years ago and when I posted it, a bunch of Zionists responded and scared me out of it and I didn't understand the weight of what that meant. I didn't understand that that meant that it was a testament to how strong Zionism is in our world. I didn't know that that meant to other people looking at me that you could be backed out of being humanitarian, about just having a—that it's not political, that it's just caring about things that deserve to be cared about basic human respect. So it wasn't this conscious choice of like. I'm going to take the leap and be forward-facing.
Speaker 2:I think, and I would hope, that every single person on the earth which we're seeing isn't true, but my wish for the world was that if there was any oppressed group of people who had their land taken, who have been displaced and then who are being brutally murdered and attacked and tortured and starved and being made sick at the rate that Palestinians are, that we would all be up in arms.
Speaker 2:And we're seeing how many people care by how much Palestine has opened the door for us to be educated about Sudan and educated about Congo and Yemen and Haiti and Kenya now all these places that otherwise have. They've been slipping through the mud for causes that have been going on for almost longer than we can even fathom. So again, it wasn't like a decision of like oh, it's time to like be an activist. I think I'm just the type of person who will yell about anything that I think is wrong, and I grew up in Oakland I'm from the city where the Black Panthers are created. I slept outside in the encampments that occupy Oakland like as a high schooler, so this isn't like a, this isn't, it's just not new.
Speaker 2:It's not new and that's not anything that's like a cool factor. It's just like it's who our city raises us to be. It's just. It's just what we know. Like we're we're a very liberal, protest heavy city. Like we're. Just we don't play none of that. So I'm just fortunate to have been politically educated in and like it's. A political education was integrated into the way that I was raised and like the city I grew up in. So it's you know, it's just second nature.
Speaker 1:That's fire. Actually, I think something about the West Coast and. I'm not even just referencing this moment, this incredible moment that Kendrick just had but just built different. Yeah, Like community wise yeah. I think like you don't see that anymore.
Speaker 2:I think it's hard.
Speaker 2:I think I think we've had our moments where there's been super divisive Like.
Speaker 2:It took me, growing up and leaving California, to recognize that people see the Bay in LA as like one thing or just like dramatically closer than like we do, because we have a lot of rivalry and we have a lot of like, especially the Bay.
Speaker 2:Like if you move to LA like you know what I mean, because it's that we view LA as Hollywood versus there's a whole actual beautiful like, homegrown, like central like from the people that are born and raised in LA and they're a beautiful people and they're a proud people and like we wasn't really super aware of that per se I mean I can only speak for myself. I wasn't aware of that until I moved to Los Angeles and like met these people and like been around them. But I think the unity is incredible because we're also known for so much gang culture and so to see that, regardless of like the gang culture, that when it comes to holding all of us down in general, that we can come together to do that, hell yeah yeah, what never seen nothing like that yeah, that's incredible super dope and even down to the gang culture.
Speaker 1:Like, in a way, it's healthy because it holds niggas accountable. Yeah, like in a lot of cities there are no checks and balances. Yeah, so, like I, I really respect that. Yeah, he did a thing. He did a thing, but all right. So we play this game. Questions that need answers. All you have to do is fill in the blank. Okay, the older I get, the less I give a fuck. Fuck, all right.
Speaker 2:You would never believe me if I told you that I can't burp what I have something called non-burping syndrome. It really sucks. I was hoping that he wasn't picking up on the mic. That like I'm having all these like grunts in my throat because I had sparkling water and like I can't burp so I just get these painful ass gurgles in my throat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it didn't.
Speaker 2:That is nuts. Yeah, yeah, it didn't. That is nuts. Yeah, my friend that's actually in the hallway right now is the only other person, and a nail tech that I had once like is the only people I know in life that have. This is actually only got named a syndrome in the last like couple years. People didn't believe it was a thing, but I've never burped in my life sprite. You drank sprite and I could do the sprite challenge and it's just gonna cause me a bunch of pain, but I can't. Yeah, I'll gurgle, though the air will come out in these little bits of like these painful chest gurgles. But no, you, I'm a tomboy. You don't think I wanted to like burp my abcs with everybody when they were little and like all the fucking girls were competing with the guys to be cool as shit, and I'm like, damn, I actually fuck all y'all up if I knew how to do this, but I can't, like I can't, it doesn't work.
Speaker 2:That's nuts, okay, I'm everybody's all drunk and they're like just burp it out and I'm like fuck it's so bad, all right. Um, I'm a little embarrassed by the fact that I know so little about I don't know if I'm embarrassed about anything in this life that I know so little about. Oh, I'm numerically dyslexic, so I'm gonna say math by default it's not that I know little.
Speaker 2:It's like I physically have a learning disability so I cannot do numbers, and it is embarrassing. Like I go to the restaurant and they're like, how many for your table? And I'm like, oh man At the restaurant, no, it's bad, I can't. Like I physically I got fired from every job that I worked at like some type of cash register or dealing with, like dealing with tips because I would always give them the wrong money back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were like, are you stealing? And I was like absolutely not running cameras back, but I was just giving people too much fucking change back wow, I wish it was my cash I go to tip and I'm like I over tip because I'm scared I won't get the tip right, so I just put mad money down.
Speaker 2:Damn, it's fucking bad.
Speaker 1:That is interesting as fuck. Yeah, not necessarily a bad thing for the other people, right?
Speaker 2:yeah, at least I can read really well and I can write. So there we go. Well, that that's see you actually win. Yo, my career doesn't involve numbers. Right, right, right.
Speaker 1:People do that for me. That's funny. Okay, yeah, Sid, you can attest I be fucking shit up. She's like Nyla. It's not pronounced like that at all.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, it's okay, we rock, there, we go, uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Any slapper, all right, let's see.
Speaker 2:Sometimes I look back at my life and I'm exhausted. No, I mean, that's also true. But I look back at my life and I actually can't believe that it's been the amount of things that it's been Like I tried to start a book the other day because I wanted to write. I want to write a book and I was like I actually have lived too many lives like I think I've there's two I wouldn't know which pocket to write about, because there's been too many fucking different versions of this shit. Like I hope to be completely chilling by the time I'm 35, because if this is up until 29 I'm beat. Yeah, honestly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like you said, you're like you know, I kind of can just do what I want and you really can. I'm at that point, which is pretty uncommon, to be this young, yeah, yeah, young, happy to be here honestly from time to time it's good to damn.
Speaker 2:I'm such a tourist bruh. I just wanted to say go to sleep. Oh god, from time to time it's good to rest, intentionally.
Speaker 2:I will say that I think I didn't always understand intentional resting. I felt I used to have, like when I first moved to la especially like a toxic grind mentality. Like, yeah, like I'm in the studio till the sun come up and then like I'm back at this shit again. I'm just going to take a shower and I'm back at this shit again. I'm gonna get a red bull turn up and then like that shit gets whooped out of you quick, like there's something really special about just like being in your space. It's Like give your body a break, give your mind a break. Like you need to recalibrate.
Speaker 1:So yeah, no, that's true. I made a complete fool of myself when I blink.
Speaker 2:I make a fool of myself all the time. I'm a consistent fool of myself, I would say, all the times I defended myself on social media Word.
Speaker 2:Fuck that that that is so played. I hate that. I mean, there's sometimes like, I think, obviously, if, like it's a defensive character or like you have to clear something up because someone has been hurt, I think that's different. But like, talk about myself to strangers for what? Y'all don't know me, and it took me a long time to get there because I used to be yapping online. I used to be every second somebody would say some shit and I'd be like, well, actually, yeah, so it just took me a while to get here, yeah.
Speaker 1:We're glad that you're here.
Speaker 2:Oh, thank God, Fuck. My personality trait is I don't know, probably mentioning that I'm a Taurus. Yeah, my bad. Like it's a little quiet, I got to rest in bitch face. I'm just a Taurus, like I. Probably actually my personality trait is bringing up astrology all the time and probably doing everyone's chart whenever I go into anywhere. Yeah, like I have mad branded people's charts in my phone. Okay, that is obsessive. Well, you know, I like to remember. I also have a best friend who, like knows all their favorite artists, like charts and stuff, so like we'll chat music when shit comes out and then she'll be like yeah, but you know, it's that scorpio moon they got, that's why they be, that's why that song is like that. I'm like. Why do you know that?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, no, I feel that and I love that. Um, all right.
Speaker 2:Last one is an ideal world would be blank man, an ideal world would be where everybody has their basic needs met. I, that would be my wish. Like the world peace wish on some real shit. Like I just feel like everything comes from people not having their basic needs met and you trickle down to even crime and things that people do out of scarcity and people's not being able to follow their dreams down to just basic survival. Like I just have an extreme, I'm super sensitive. Like I'm I'm super sensitive especially to like just wrongdoings and injustice and unfair things and and sad things and I hurt walking down the street, like I just I'll be, I'll be walking down the street or if I don't have cash, like this new cashless ass society is so fucked because I used to notoriously just like I would lose all my money, even when I was like super broke, when I was first coming up. Like I would, just I'd be like I don't know. I left the house. I had a hundred dollars. I came back, I don't have shit because I don't know. I've been like, oh my god, the whole time. You know, so I don't know.
Speaker 2:In a perfect world, everybody would just have what the fuck they need. Man, what a good heart I mean, I feel like most of us feel I really, I really do. I feel like hear me out. I feel like even the most greedy of people at the core became the most greedy of people because of scarcity and because they felt like they had to like scrounge and claw and get what they had and then they have to protect it so fiercely because they didn't have it before. Now they're like now that I have it, I can't give it to anybody else because I have to protect it. What about my future family? And did it so like bottom line? I think everybody having what they need would just cure everything and I think we hopefully all of us feel that way.
Speaker 1:I love that Kalani for fucking president, please, oh my god, fuck the.
Speaker 2:I would never be the president. Oh my god, honestly, fuck the government. I'm just gonna say that y'all know me by now. You heard it here.
Speaker 1:50th yeah, yo, but we need advocates like that we do, we do kehlani for kehlani cannot like. What is it? Because you you're so zenned, like naturally am I zenned? Yes, I'm a tourist no, that is not a Taurus trait, is it not?
Speaker 2:We're a little dry until we're not. I feel like we get that a lot. We're kind of dry until we're turned, and I'm not even really dry, I just kind of have. I guess it's the zen that's kind of dry.
Speaker 1:I feel like it's zen. I'm not going to say dry, because when you speak on things I hear you loud and clear, but it's like it's hella centered.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, it's not like it took a lot of work. Yeah, it took a lot of work. I wasn't always like this. I definitely used to be a lot more like emotionally imbalanced, in a way where, like if you would have sat across from me and said anything that would have like triggered whatever I'd have been like emotional about it, anything that would have like triggered whatever I'd have been like emotional about it. But I think you just get to a point where, like, you're clear and concise on what needs to be said and you're clear and concise on what you mean and you know no matter what like you can stand on, however people take it, because you know what you mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that, I love that for you and even down to the when I was saying I was nervous about you going mainstream, blah, blah, blah. But I think like at the end of the day, you resonate just because you stay true to you. Did you like take time away? Because I really don't Like. You was like when you see David, you see me, but then you're like actually, no, not really, I've definitely seen David more than I've seen you.
Speaker 2:He's so fucking famous, see me outside.
Speaker 1:I don't go anywhere, but was that?
Speaker 2:like intentional, that I don't go anywhere. You know, man, I always say that, like I was fortunate and very unfortunate to be a very realistic young person, like I was, almost like I always wished my whole life, like I truly do believe ignorance is bliss and I like it is a plague to not be ignorant, Like God bless it's great for like, like you know, contributing great things to the world. But I really do wish I could be one of those people who could just go about life enjoying things and like not fucking thinking about the cause and effect of it every fucking second.
Speaker 2:but I'm just not like I'm the person that like gets invited out to stuff and I'm like that organization sucks and they're fucking terrible people and you don't even want to be here and this award doesn't even fucking mean anything. So why I'm here? And what is this? And y'all don't even care. What are we here? Like it's it is. It plagues me. I don't choose to be like this, I promise, because there are moments where I force myself to get up and go to these things and and I'm like you know what? They invited me? I'm an artist, I want to be her, I want to show face, and then I still get there and I'm like this is the fucking matrix.
Speaker 1:And not like no head ass shit.
Speaker 2:Not to be head ass Because I can get taken so head ass, but like it is just the plaguing ass thoughts of like I really identified what kind of life I want and what, what joys in life really mean the most to me and I just prioritize those. I will take a family beach day over an award show, any day. I will take a trip to go learn from people in another place and like sit in their family home or like sit and do this or whatever, or like meeting a bunch of kids and let them, you know, let them tell me that what, what my music did for them, over any of those kinds of things any day, just because I've identified that that's where the joy is and that's what real life is. So, yeah, that plagues me from going out.
Speaker 1:Damn man. So okay, but I do be at the club sometimes all the time, actually, sometimes All the time.
Speaker 2:Actually. No, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I be with my friends creating those moments that I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I can't wait to see what this book is. Did you find your starting point? No, okay.
Speaker 2:The book may never fucking come. I just have, like you, got to imagine the things that have happened publicly already, feel like they're this timeline, that's this long for people. People Like there's this timeline, that's this long for people. People are like God, she's been through so much. There's all this. When I tell you that is this much of my life, that is this much, as much as I've yapped, I'm quiet. I have been private. As much as I've shared, you know, and I see things about myself all the time. I see all these little blogs and all these little things where people speak and people speak for me and people say these things and I'm like you guys don't know the half of it. So the book, uh, do I just pick like a five year gap of my life and just say here's five years from this year to this year, and even then that should be like a series.
Speaker 1:It's chaotic well, the download will come and you'll figure it out. Yeah, I'll figure it out but I do think it would be cool for you to just, I think, highlight the culture just because of, like your genetic makeup versus your different experiences where you've lived, the friends you've made. That's four books and honestly I feel like that is a series.
Speaker 2:You said that's four books. That's four books. Yo, you have no idea. My last year was two books.
Speaker 1:Damn. Yeah, oh yeah, but you haven't really been posting on social like that.
Speaker 2:Oh, I just I learned I have a really good relationship with social media. Now, Okay, you only got to know what you know and I only have to yap about shit that deserves the yap.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:Political yap, music yap.
Speaker 1:you know that's it, though occasional personality points, but other than that, I'm gonna do all my shit with myself. Yeah, yeah, I respect it. We love the growth. We love kalani. Thank you, um. Shout out to grandma. Everybody know where they can follow you, if they don't already it's just kalani everywhere, k-e-h-l-a-n, I y'all got it. Yeah, crash out now, talk soon.