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WNTTLK (We Need To Talk)
Kiana Ledé Discusses "Space & Pu$$y," Staying Friends with Exes, Embracing Chaos in Creativity, Her Aries Influence, & Reality TV Fascinations!
Can you really be friends with your ex? Join us as we explore this question with the incredibly talented Kiana Ledé, who shares her unique perspective on the rollercoaster of relationships, inspired by her fiery Aries nature. Kiana opens up about her latest album, "Cut Ties," and how her creative process is fueled by the chaos and purposefulness of her life's experiences. We discuss the hidden truths behind the powerful tracks "Space" and "Pu$$y," delving into the art of maintaining emotional boundaries in personal connections.
Our conversation takes a deeper turn as we navigate the tumultuous waters of past relationships, focusing on the essence of healing and self-discovery. Kiana candidly shares her insights into maintaining friendships with exes and the journey of accepting genuine love after a challenging past. From the importance of therapy and self-love to embracing the quirks that shape us, such as being artsy or living with ADHD, we uncover the beautiful complexity of personal growth. Kiana’s reflections are wrapped in a rich tapestry of her background and the experiences that have influenced her views on love and relationships.
For a lighter note, we indulge in the guilty pleasure of reality TV and the joy of doing absolutely nothing. Kiana and I exchange stories about our favorite binge-worthy shows, from Netflix dating spectacles to the unmissable drama of the Real Housewives series. Alongside these playful moments, we emphasize the importance of supporting artists like Kiana by streaming and purchasing their work. Don’t miss out on connecting with Kiana's music and staying engaged with her artistic journey.
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You are ghosted for six months and then he suddenly texts you. What are you doing? Cut it, you're not even entertaining, fuck.
Speaker 2:No, if you don't want to marry me after knowing me for a week, then it's cut. I know who I am.
Speaker 1:Every woman fellas. You hear this you go on a first date with a guy and he pulls out his phone and starts recording for social media. Cut, Even if it's a guy.
Speaker 2:you really like no, no, I don't like that. Give me my time, okay.
Speaker 1:You bring a new partner to a family gathering, only to find out he used to date somebody In the family Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Hmm, what's up? It's KeAnna Leday and my new album, cut Ties, is out now. Nyla, we need to talk.
Speaker 1:What's going on, guys? Nyla Simone here, and welcome to another episode of we Need To Talk Now. Today I have a very special guest in the building. I have Kiana Lede. How are you? I'm good. How are you? I'm good, man. I'm so excited to finally get to meet you. I've been watching your career blossom for so long and I'm excited about this new project. It's very spicy. Not the evil laugh. Why did you just hit the evil laugh?
Speaker 2:like that. Well, here's the thing my actual natural laugh is just an evil cackle, oh my God so like what's your sign?
Speaker 1:Can you guess that's give a Halloween baby that statement. Okay, am I close? Well, halloween's my favorite Holiday, holiday.
Speaker 2:But it is, yeah, just guess, like Scorpio, no, no, I hate that Really. I hate that. That's actually scary Facts Agreed, but it's another menace sign, gemini. No, that is a menace sign, you're right, but not in the way that I'm thinking. Okay, fun menace.
Speaker 1:Fun menace, fun menace. I'm going to go with a fire sign. Okay, sedge. No, I'm going to go with a fire sign. Okay, sag, no, leo, no, aries. Yes, oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. I'm like damn, I'm running out of fire signs. I'm a Leo, but I didn't want to snitch on myself when you said that, so I'm like let me not lead with that. So then I just led with anyway, okay, yeah, aries, okay, yeah, aries, okay, okay aries.
Speaker 2:I feel like scorpios are kind of like those are top dogs and and like fuck, nigga shit, yeah, no, amen. And then it's gemini right after that I actually really like gemini.
Speaker 1:I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2:See what's you dated a gemini.
Speaker 1:I haven't, okay, I haven't, but I got gemini friends.
Speaker 2:Gemini friends are cool keep them in the friend zone. It's always cool when your friends are. Yeah, exactly, I got scorpio friends. They're cool. Nah, scorpios, even in the friend zone, it's always cool when you're friends, right? Yeah, exactly, I got Scorpio friends.
Speaker 1:They're cool. Nah, scorpios, even in the friendships, are just very passionate people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, and they're so entertaining also Just entertaining people to just watch and see how they move in life. Yeah, and I'm down for their loyalty and their passion. That's true, but then once it flips on you, it is the scariest thing.
Speaker 1:I want no problem. That's why I haven't beat for 50 Cent.
Speaker 2:Keep me out of it. He's out of control.
Speaker 1:He is out of control when creating this project. What sign inspired it?
Speaker 2:Definitely Aries, your own sign. This is not the twin project. Well, no, here's the thing. I feel like it's more like self-inspired like I'm going off of my extreme emotions that I feel all the time and, like my con, like my constant uh, I'm really good at pivoting, I think. Okay, so needing to know where people are, where they belong in my life, and figuring out how to navigate in between that and then just causing a lot of chaos.
Speaker 1:I mean, I have a song Along the way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have a song called Burn it Up on the album and Fire Sign. It's literally just the Aries of me, your left eye moment, even when I'm in love, you know yeah, you left that moment.
Speaker 1:I'm not mad at it at all, I think on um okay. So this is situationship inspired or relationship inspired, or a little bit of both, because it seemed like there's just a lot of characters in the equation when I'm listening to this project.
Speaker 2:There is Okay there is, but this is why I didn't. So between Kiki and Grudges there was three years where I was done with Grudges, for probably two years before we released it. So I didn't make music, I was just trying to figure out how we were going to get the shit out. And then, after Grudges came out, I had already been through so much that I was like I have so much to write about and I need to get it all out. So there are different stories in there, but they all kind of play into one story and one theme.
Speaker 1:Okay it's like relationships, yeah, it's like. You know it's game. Yeah, it's game. Yeah, it's game. Exactly, I definitely definitely resonated with Space and Pussy man. What a record. I love that song. You put it all on the table with this record and I'm really here for it because it's true, like what a lucky motherfucker.
Speaker 2:Honestly You're welcome.
Speaker 2:You're welcome, but talk to me about that relationship and just even being vulnerable vulnerable enough to share that on a record, so you know what's funny is Space and Pussy was actually written originally by a writer called Bailey that I worked with a lot on the album, and the people that a lot of some of the people that I worked with a lot on this album I've worked with them since I was writing Kiki and even before that, one of the EPs before that, and so they had played me this song.
Speaker 2:The producers had played me this song and I knew Bailey, but I hadn't met her yet, and so they played it and I was like, oh my God, I love this song, and usually I'm the one in situations where where I'm kind of like I'm I'm so happy to give you space and pussy, like I don't expect nothing, I'm just having a good time here for a good time.
Speaker 2:But, um, I heard that song and I was like, fuck, I need that, because we've all felt that at some point and I feel like maybe some people feel a lot more than I do in certain situations, but I just felt like the song needed to be heard and it was just calling my name and so I had it for probably like a year and a half, two years before I was like, because there were so many times where I was like I know where I want to go with this album and I hadn't written the rest of the songs yet and I was like I think I know where I want to go, but maybe it just doesn't fit. Like it just doesn't fit and then once we were able to kind of hone in on the part one, which is this album, I was like this actually fits perfectly.
Speaker 1:This is the part one. So this is given. Is it given trilogy?
Speaker 2:I don't know. You have to see. Just know it's the first part.
Speaker 1:So it took you three years to put this project together?
Speaker 2:no, it took us three years for the last album to come out. Okay, and now we started making this one. What March, march?
Speaker 1:I started writing in March and then it's coming out now in November.
Speaker 2:It's been done for probably like a month and a half, two months. It's been done for like two months, so it's all in the same year. I'm done waiting, Like I didn't have much control over that situation and now I have all the control and I'm like you get an album and you get an album you get an album. Everybody's getting an album.
Speaker 1:I love that for you. Is it, um, or has anybody like hit you about like any of these records? Because, yo, you be so detailed. You be so detailed with like the experience that I know somebody is giving you a call like for real. That's how you feel definitely.
Speaker 2:I'm a little scared of some of the because I'm gonna get after I release this album for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm a little nervous.
Speaker 2:I'm a little nervous, but like with um Kiki, like I had broken up with my, so I was writing a lot of that album about the person I was still in a relationship with, and then I ended up breaking up with my. So I was writing a lot of that album about the person I was still in a relationship with, and then I ended up breaking up with them and they were clueless, like they had no idea. They were there at the camp too when I was writing them. They had no idea that I was writing these songs about them. So after we broke up because I broke up with them on a vacation, after we were on our way back home.
Speaker 1:Yo, is she like skimmed past it? Because yeah, I did it through text message, Like what. I did it while we were on vacation. I had enough.
Speaker 2:So then when we were driving home it was a road trip, we were driving home and we were playing he was like I want to hear the album again. And I was like OK, and I was like do you know this song is about you? And hear the album again? And I was like okay, and I was like do you know this song is about you? And he was like no, and I was like did you know this song is about you? Did you know this song's about you? And he was like, oh, I like it even more now. So we are. We were still friends and we had gone like to brunch or something as friends. After I was like already in another relationship and he was like. He was like are there songs coming out on this album, which is Grudges, that are about me? And I was like, yeah, there's two Now he's collecting these trophies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, they really were it was for his ego, and I was like don't let that get to your head, because one is called Bitter Bitch. That's the first one, and then the next one is Gemini Slander.
Speaker 1:And he was like god, do I even want to know? And I was like, no, just listen when it comes out. No, just wear your trophy. Just wear your trophy, you're welcome again. So, all right, let's backtrack, because you said two things that I'm like clutching my pearls over. So you broke up with him on vacation. And then the other one was oh, what was the other one? All right, talk to me about this breakup on vacation first. Okay, so basically enough. Basically, enough was just enough. Enough was just enough.
Speaker 2:I was in. I was his first girlfriend ever and he was 27. Okay, and I think, like I've been the first girlfriend before and I know what it feels like to teach somebody how to love, yeah, and it's just like a whole experience that I was not in the mental space to do like for myself. You know, I was going through a really hard time. I had a lot of mental health challenges at that time. I was really deep in it and I was expecting, like not to lean on him or like rely on him but lean on him, and like I just don't think he knew how to be a partner to someone in that scenario. So I just yeah, I just don't think he had, like I don't think he had it in him. So yeah, yeah. So I knew what I required and that was not what I wanted and I felt like it was only doing me more damage than actually like helping me in that time where I really needed a lot of that's actually well said like thanks, yeah, because it could be way worse.
Speaker 1:But if that's just just a capacity thing, I would prefer that than like a messier situation.
Speaker 2:And that's why we were able to stay friends after like I was gonna be my other thing, like yeah, no, no, not, no more. I don't fuck with none of my exes. Fuck them all. No, I really don't. I dislike all of them actually, but go ahead, I dislike all them actively. But I was friends with him for a time because it felt like he just wasn't capable of it and that's okay, you know, and he was still a good person and we got along really well and we could be friends. But and we started out friends so it didn't seem like an issue.
Speaker 1:But then after time, I don't under people tell me that I'm immature and like that's why you don't feel like you could be friends with your exes, and I don't see it like that, but maybe I don't feel like it's on you, though I feel like it's also like what your ex did to you in that relationship. Um for sure, Because if it's not respectable, then like Exactly.
Speaker 2:Definitely I'm not going to be friends with somebody who cheated on me. Fuck that.
Speaker 1:Even you don't want me to fuck that, even if it was amicable. For what Like, for what, I don't know.
Speaker 2:That's just where I'm at yeah, no, I get it, and I think like now I've gotten to that point and there's only one or two people that I really tried to be friends with after, and it always ended up just going bad.
Speaker 1:Okay, see, all right, but on this you sound like you had a lot of good times. Yeah, Sounds like you had a lot of good times. Got you making breakfast in the morning and all types of stuff. So let's talk about that and that experience. Did you actually write Wow in Love, or like was that? The situation? Was that the fling?
Speaker 2:I'm assuming the fling was the later half, so this year it was this year, it was this year, was this year, it was this year, no, so it's funny because, like storyline wise, it's actually in real life. It's actually kind of reversed, so like I started off in a really bad place, really bad relationship, fuck, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then I end up in such a happy, like loving place. It's like scary to be in actual love because when you feel safe, it kind of feels uncomfortable if you've got, like I grew up in like a very traumatic home and just like had a really traumatizing childhood and like teenage hood, whatever the fuck you want to call that. But, um, yeah, so like being loved by somebody, just for being you it's just a different feeling.
Speaker 2:It's something that I still don't think I'm used to. Um, this is layered, it's this is. It's deep, it's really deep. I still don't think I'm used to it, but I'm I'm like accepting it every day and I I get to have somebody, I'm in a relationship right now and I get to have a relationship with somebody who's very patient with me and, like, understands all my different like triggers and knows that it's gonna take time for me to just be like thank you, like thanks for cooking me breakfast. I appreciate that, and I like at first, I'm like no, no, don't give it to me, I'm sorry. Um, so, yeah, it's weird oh that.
Speaker 1:I'm happy for you. I'm happy that you get to experience that. I'm happy you found somebody that's patient. But I hate that. I hate that we're almost like naturally programmed to like shy away from being properly loved. What the fuck is that? Why is that the world?
Speaker 2:the world. It just teaches so many lessons. We just need to unlearn at some point.
Speaker 1:Definitely gotta do a lot of unpacking, um, but that's really real. So what would you say? Or like what was the moment where you realized, like damn, I'm low-key, like hard to love. Or like I have a problem accepting love I think I just always felt that way.
Speaker 2:I think I always felt that way. I think that's why I've accepted less than I deserved. I think now I'm like I know I'm more deserving of this. I just need to commit mentally, you know.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I always thought I needed like to accomplish something to be loved, or that it was. Yeah, it was hard for other people to love me, and I think my past relationships really only proved that right. But yeah, now I'm just. I think I've been through a lot of therapy also and I love myself a lot more. Even though I know I have no little quirks, I love myself and so, yeah, it was. I think it became easier to find somebody who loved me in the way that I needed to be loved.
Speaker 1:Amen, that's a word right there. So, and you know what those quirks are, what make you like, embrace those.
Speaker 2:What are your?
Speaker 1:quirks, my quirks I'm like just super artsy and I have ADHD, so I'm always doing something with my hands. So, like, maybe I'm knitting, maybe I randomly rent a guitar and try to learn on YouTube how to guitar. I just like to always do something. I'm trying to recipe.
Speaker 2:That's so good, though, because you're not just on your phone, you're actually doing something, enhancing your life with something I have to. It's sick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, but it's bad though.
Speaker 2:Why you get obsessed with new things all the time.
Speaker 1:But it's like a trial, so it's like I'm gonna do it for three months, then I'll come back to it like in another nine months, I feel that I definitely feel that, because this is hard, so quick but yeah, that's, that is my thing, but it is what it is. But okay, back to you. So you said that you grew up you had a hard, like I guess guess, emotional balance growing up. Where did you grow up? And why?
Speaker 2:Where did I grow up? I grew up in South Phoenix. Okay, I thought you were from LA, for some reason.
Speaker 2:No, but I've lived there for like 12 years, so I've been there for a long time. Okay, I moved there when I was 16 with my 18-year-old best friend, so it was kind of like a teenage adulthood thing. Yeah, which is best friend? So it was kind of like a teenage adulthood thing, yeah, um, which is weird in LA of all places, I would say, like LA is is a. It's a scary place for a teenager to be on their own, for sure. Um, wait, so did you drop out of school or you finished?
Speaker 2:school, yeah, so I so I basically dropped out. I went to online school. My mom was an online teacher, so I went to online school. My mom was an online teacher, so I went to the school that she worked at, but I never did my work. So I technically got a degree Okay, but I shouldn't have Shout out to your mom. Shout out to my mom.
Speaker 1:My mom is sick, but 16 in LA. But no, no, no, how did you get to LA?
Speaker 2:I want to hear about the, this imbalance, um well, as much as you want to talk about yeah, no, it's fine. I mean, I think, uh, I'm bipolar and I didn't know that. As a kid. I also recently just got diagnosed um with autism. That's why she accepted my ADHD.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, I have ADHD bipolar.
Speaker 2:I'm on the spectrum, I'm like learning all these new things about myself, love it, and I think, going back on my childhood, it makes a lot more sense. There was a lot of times where I felt like I was just so far from being perfect, felt like I was just so far from being perfect and I it was almost like a requirement to continue to work on yourself to be that perfect person in my house, and it was really emotionally unstable. Um, it was really unpredictable, just didn't feel like a safe place. And then, um, I have daddy issues on top of that. So you know, take that, yeah, as you will.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that could be hard as a creative, because you need, like, space like strict situations don't necessarily translate for everybody yeah, um, but my mom, my mom and I relationship was really bad um for a long time. Growing up. She also just went through a lot of her own like childhood trauma. That was I can't even imagine going through. So you know, she unwilling, unknowingly brought that to our family and so it was really rough.
Speaker 2:But the one thing my mom did was always support me and almost to a fault, like she would like push me, but it was like I guess that's why I like felt like I needed to earn love a lot, um, but she was so, so supportive and if that's the only way she showed her love, she had so much of it.
Speaker 2:You know, she was like I don't care what you do, as long as you do it the best and you do it to your most extreme effort that you can. And so she was always there for, like she put me in pageants. Even when we had no money, she was finding a way to put me in pageants. She made sure I was like part of musical theater and I did voice lessons, and like she figured out how to make that work somehow and she did um dang man, salute to your mom, honestly. And now, like she's gone through so much therapy and we've like done so much work together and our relationship is so incredible. So it's great because I get to do everything she wanted me to do and everything I want to do and then we get to have this amazing relationship. So I'm really happy with where we're at now.
Speaker 1:No, that's so awesome. So both of you guys are in therapy. That's what's up. Therapy is important. It is, it really is. I mean, is important it is, it really is. I mean, I'm currently not in it, but when I was in it, amazing so when I had health insurance. Okay, we'll get that back. Yeah, oh, my god, yes, but okay, um, damn, this is. This is good. You have a really dope story, thank you. And we didn't even talk about all your early projects. But I'm going to skip to this game because I have another game I want to add.
Speaker 2:I love a good game.
Speaker 1:The first game is called Questions that Need Answers. All you have to do is fill in the blank. Okay, all right. The older I get, the less I Fail.
Speaker 2:That sounds deep and I have no idea where that came from it was just the first word that came out. I don't fail, Okay good. You learn more Wisdom. Yes, and not every failure is actually a failure. It's just not where you're meant to be at the time. Saved myself.
Speaker 1:There you go. Yes, that was a bar. You would never believe me if I told you.
Speaker 2:I don't know how to play poker. These are just things that are coming out of my mouth, I'm not even thinking them. Okay, I actually don't know how to play poker. I know how to do a Rubik's Cube, that is random as hell, would you believe that.
Speaker 1:Yes, actually I would, Because you've been a little random today. What an ADHD in us. Do you know how to play spades?
Speaker 2:Oh, sis, come on, I know it's so bad, you got some things to work on. Poker.
Speaker 1:I'll let you pass, but you can do the slots yeah.
Speaker 2:I like blackjack Okay.
Speaker 1:Blackjack is really fun.
Speaker 2:I play a lot of card games, though, so I should know how to play spades.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the number one card game.
Speaker 2:You know when you were asking people like can you teach me?
Speaker 1:Okay, and nobody wants you in a team because they don't want you to.
Speaker 2:And my sister had to learn by playing and she was like nobody taught me, so I'm not teaching you.
Speaker 1:Also just a tip. There's an app for it so you can just play it on the app and then try to get better, like in real life, through the app. Okay, this is good. From time to time it's good to do nothing. What's your way of doing nothing? Are you a nature girly? Are you in the crib binge?
Speaker 2:watching, like what's your thing? I am a nature girly, for sure. I love like going on a good hike, like not even like running, like I want to go because also, that's desert-y, that's where I grew up. I'm good on that. Yeah, I like up, I'm good on that. Yeah, I like to go to like malibu or like in the forest somewhere. Like I'm a big, I love the ocean. Kind of I don't. I love the ocean, I just don't like it as much as a river, like a stream. It's calmer.
Speaker 2:I need calmer I need sounds like soothing, sounds um yeah. So I love being on a good hike, uh, but I also just love watching reality tv and like sitting on my couch.
Speaker 1:Are you a now this tv girl or a zeus tv or none? Are you like the dating show, like the netflix?
Speaker 2:no, I love netflix dating shows. I love love island, okay. I love real housewives. Okay, why did you just do that pause? Because I was just thinking do I say bravo or do I say real housewives?
Speaker 1:are you?
Speaker 2:a girlie, like of course I am okay, I just have to add that's one of my favorites. I would say potomac is my. Potomac is my favorite. Then I love beverly hills and salt lake city. I think they're kind of tied and I think it's just funny because, like growing up in arizona there's a like a big mormon community, so like just seeing them in reality TV is like really interesting yeah.
Speaker 2:And then after that I love New York because I like Newcastle. This is new. I love New York. No, no, no the new cast. No, I love Real Housewives of New York City. Oh, I was like, because it's a new cast.
Speaker 1:Sorry, tiffany's been trending for some reason, so I'm like wait a minute, I didn't get the tea on that, whoa, okay, okay. How do you feel about Robin Levin?
Speaker 2:I'm sad. I was shocked, honestly.
Speaker 1:I'm sad I was shocked.
Speaker 2:But then when I thought about it for longer, I was like, actually, you know what? No, I'm not, I think. I think she was trying to dodge a lot. So and juan was, probably getting mad at her too much and she was like I gotta get the fuck out of this show well, I think people were being mean.
Speaker 1:I think they should just let her fucking rock. Yeah, like that's.
Speaker 2:I love robin I miss robin and giselle together. Green eyed, green Eye Bandits.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, oh shit. What's my other question?
Speaker 2:How do you feel about Karen? Sorry, I'm just curious.
Speaker 1:I don't love her, I don't hate her, I don't feel, I don't. What's your take?
Speaker 2:I'm just always confused by her. I think I like her because she keeps me entertained. Is she going to come out and be a little rat right now? Or by her like why I think I like her because she keeps me entertained, because I'm just like okay, is she gonna like, come out and be a little rat right now? Or?
Speaker 1:is she gonna be?
Speaker 2:like I am. What is she? The the grand dom the grand dom.
Speaker 1:Yes, damn, that sounds like um, how, oh, what is her name? On the atlanta show, kenya used to be like that. You, you know what. I never watched Atlanta. Really, that was the one that started me off. I really tried.
Speaker 2:But there's only so far I can go back before. It just doesn't keep my attention Because the quality is so bad, hey man.
Speaker 1:That's OG, but I don't like watching.
Speaker 2:That's OG. I don't like watching the newer seasons without watching. I need to commit. I just need to commit.
Speaker 1:It's going to take some time, I know, yeah, it's going to take some time, I know.
Speaker 2:I just got to get through it.
Speaker 1:Your next do nothing day sounds like a plan. Yeah Okay, you'll never believe me. What is it? My personality trait is Chaos Sound about right.
Speaker 2:Sometimes I look back at my life and laugh. What are you laughing at? Everything? Okay, because if you think about it, like literally nothing matters. So it's like everything that you've been through in your life, whether it's like traumatic or not, it's like I could. I could look back at like a relationship I was in that was so bad and start laughing because it was just so bad. Why was that? Even and it's so funny Like why did I do that, you know? And then like literally nothing matters. So everything I look back on, I'm like huh, remember that time. That's crazy. And then move on.
Speaker 1:That's a good way to look at it, but it's definitely giving a little crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I told you, I'm in therapy. I'm bipolar, I'm ADHD, I'm on the spectrum. I got a lot going on, for some reason that sounds normal to me.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to lie, but I guess maybe that says a lot more about me. No, all right, so let's pivot to the next game. It's called cutting ties. Ooh, so I'm going to give you a few scenarios. Based off these scenarios, you let me know if it's time to snip, snip.
Speaker 2:Okay, you're a ghosted for six months. And then he suddenly texts you. What are you doing? Cut it. Cut it what you're not even entertaining, fuck. No, if you don't want to marry me after knowing me for a week, then it's cut, okay, okay, all right I know who I am.
Speaker 1:Every woman fellas. You hear this. Alright. So you go on a first date with a guy and he pulls out his phone and starts recording for social media. Cut, cut, okay, even if it's a guy you really like no, yeah, alright, I don't like that. Give me my time, okay feel that, yes, you bring a new partner to a family gathering, only to find out he used to date somebody like in the family, in the family cut, cut.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, I only thought about that for so long because I was thinking like I actually don't. I've never really cared who, like the person I've been with has been with, it doesn't bother me at all. But then it's like it's your family. So no, that's weird. Yeah, that's weird. I'm not doing that. Yeah, I think even with friends I don't do that.
Speaker 1:That's good, that's gonna be my follow-up yeah, what if it's not family. No, that, that's what's up. A lot of people don't have that type of loyalty. I should say Damn, huh, damn. Just saying you and your partner accidentally set up your mutual friend who ends up getting engaged. Now you have to navigate the dynamic. What do you? Wait, wait, wait. You don't know how to do that right now. Or do they get?
Speaker 2:divorced. Yes, we set up a mutual friend, one of our friends, they end up not working out.
Speaker 1:Okay, who do you, or do you? I feel like this happens all the time.
Speaker 2:Okay, this is because I'm very loyal, so it depends on what who was my friend first, who was my friend first, was my friend first and who fucked up? Yeah, because if, if the girl was my friend first or if, like my friend, whoever it was, if my friend got cheated on by this other mutual friend that I met after I met this friend, yeah, then he's gone.
Speaker 2:If that's like my partner's friend, you're gone, like I don't need to speak to you again. But if it's like they, it was like mutually exclusive, you know, just like mutually what's it called? It was agreed upon that it just wasn't working and they broke up. I'm cool with being friends with both, okay, okay um, you're dating somebody.
Speaker 1:they have a baby. Y'all take a break. They have a baby, y'all take a break, they have a baby. Do you guys reconnect or like say this is the love of your life? Do you reconnect? Kind of like Issa on Insecure.
Speaker 2:No, no, I'm not having kids ever.
Speaker 1:All right. So that's great, because when he took a break he went and had a kid.
Speaker 2:So you don't have to have the kids? No, but that responsibility also comes on to me and like I don't want the responsibility, that's my reason, for one of my reasons for not wanting kids.
Speaker 1:I don't want responsibilities.
Speaker 2:I just want to be able to live with my money in my house and go on vacation whenever I want to, because I have extra money and I have nothing that like is keeping me at home.
Speaker 1:She said I got extra money because I don't got these kids, because I don't got the kids, I got extra money because I don't got these kids, because I don't got the kids.
Speaker 2:Look after I left the house, my parents. They got more money, it's noticeable. They were able to afford a nicer house, understood With the amount that they were giving me, which was, you know, not much for us, but without an extra body in the house, it's good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, understandable. Yeah, all right. Well, thank you for coming on the show. Really appreciate it. This is a great talk and I also I wanted to know one last thing before we wrap is like being that we kind of heard or listened to how your situationship played out. In what ways would you do things differently, like, would you ever do a situations shift again?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I actually feel really comfortable in situations. What, yeah, I do. Like my partner laughs at me all the time because he was like I was ready to make you my girlfriend after the second week and then, right when I was about to like, when I was like really feeling like I was gonna make you my girlfriend, you had said, like, what did I say? I could be in a talking phase forever. Because, it's true, Like, but that's a part of my like, anxious, avoidant personality. It's like I want you to want to be here, but like I want to make sure we're choosing each other every day. And if we're in a talking phase, I don't have to have high expectations of you, so you can't really hurt me and I can't hurt you because you don't have expectations of me. So, like, it's good.
Speaker 1:so I actually really like situationships. I think I would have just not like trusted.
Speaker 2:I think, in general, something that I'm learning right now is just to not trust people as much as I do um off of first meets, because I'm so. I always want to like create a safe space for people and I love like talking about childhood trauma people.
Speaker 2:I've met like five minutes ago. So like that is really nice, but then, like I think, once I start to get a little bit deeper, I like really start trusting people and I think that they always have the best intentions, when, especially in LA unfortunately, in my business, like it's just not always the case yeah so, yeah, I really lead with like being a genuine person. So now I think I'm working on being more acquaintances with more people and not taking things so personally and then also just trusting the people that I already have in my life, just being a little bit more cautious about who I have around, understood and sounds very smart, whether it's romantic or not, you know.
Speaker 1:Kiana Ledet. Ladies and gentlemen, shout out to Graham, let everybody know when they can follow you and definitely tap into the project.
Speaker 2:Everything is Kiana Ledet, k-i-a-n-a-l-e-d-e, and the project is called Cut Ties and it's available on all streaming platforms and you can go buy it on iTunes. Yes, make sure you do that.
Speaker 1:So next time guys talk soon.
