In recognition of Pride Month, Angie candidly shares how she arrived at challenging her default gender-based dating norms.
The practical question of which box to choose on a dating app unlatched the gate of the assumption that romantic love would always and only be with a man.
In typical Besties fashion, a provocative conversation unfolds delving in the intersection of their Christian faith, societal norms, aging, and life’s yet unmet desires.
Through it all, Angella and Leslie emphasize the importance of continuous self-discovery and the rejection of societal pressures to conform.
If you’re expecting simplistic declarations about LGBTQIA labels, you won’t find it here . What you will find is one Black 61-year old woman’s liberation journey to love as it relates to gender.
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In recognition of Pride Month, Angie candidly shares how she arrived at challenging her default gender-based dating norms.
The practical question of which box to choose on a dating app unlatched the gate of the assumption that romantic love would always and only be with a man.
In typical Besties fashion, a provocative conversation unfolds delving in the intersection of their Christian faith, societal norms, aging, and life’s yet unmet desires.
Through it all, Angella and Leslie emphasize the importance of continuous self-discovery and the rejection of societal pressures to conform.
If you’re expecting simplistic declarations about LGBTQIA labels, you won’t find it here . What you will find is one Black 61-year old woman’s liberation journey to love as it relates to gender.
This episode and all previous episodes are available on YouTube. Please join our Besties Quad Squad as a Patreon subscriber at the $5 or $10 monthly level. You'll receive exclusive behind-the-scenes content.
Visit Black Boomer Besties from Brooklyn website for behind-the-scenes extras.
hey, bestie, and hey, sweetie pie loves what's cooking good good, why do you?
Speaker 1:why do you get? Why do I do like this?
Speaker 2:it's like you get good giddy when I tell you you look good, or hello, you know.
Speaker 1:You know what it reminds me of, when I was young and we were getting food and it was like dinner time and it was time to do the dinner jig. You know you're so happy about it. That might be it, so it was always a little jig. It's always a little jig, jig, yeah, the happy dance.
Speaker 2:I know little jig jig, yeah, the happy dance.
Speaker 1:I know I remember when we were um roommates, housemates, um, that was always a a part of the day. That was every time.
Speaker 2:It's a fun time oh my gosh, but especially around food, because we would notice each other dancing and it's like you got food right it's starting to smell good, right, so let's bring them on in.
Speaker 1:Welcome to another episode of Black Boomer Besties from Brooklyn.
Speaker 2:Brooklyn. Welcome, guys and gals. All the peoples, all the peoples. So, ange, you have new hair, I do. I got the sides cut down. You're going to see the gray happening, I know.
Speaker 2:It looks a little Mohawk-ish, I know, but this is an interim style. I'm actually going to get braids and this is going to be an undercut, so it's not the full style yet. I did take video of me at the barbershop, by the way, okay. So you guys Patreon folks will see that I went to a barber that has his business in the oldest barbershop in Durham, north Carolina. Oh wow, so it was good to be in the history, so I'll have some pictures of that. But, yeah, so I decided that I wanted to get braids and my hair had kind of grown out on the sides, and I stumbled across a YouTube video and I will put the link to it in our description. A YouTube video and I will put the link to it in our description that showed all these different styles with an undercut. Okay, they were like a lot.
Speaker 1:10 maybe Well, Monique could tell you, because you should see. You know, I was just down in Florida visiting her over the past weekend. And you know she's her normal glam. Maybe she can let me show a picture of her in our notes or something like that. It's like my sister or something else.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so she's definitely an influencer. So I decided to cut the sides down so that I could get some of the looks and just to make it a little neat, a little neater as an undercut. You look neat, thank you. I feel neat. I feel neat. So, yeah, it comes down to a V in the back. I will have pictures of that also, and because, again, I just like the styles that, um, I saw with this cut, with the braids, At some point I'm going to do something with my hair.
Speaker 2:It's so long and it's so long I sent you, but I sent you stuff to show you ways that you can do it. But what do you look at? Them and say I can't do it. But I sent you stuff to show you ways that you can do it. But what do you? Look at them and say I can't do it. What happens? You don't look what happens For one.
Speaker 1:I don't really remember seeing it, but I need help, you know me.
Speaker 2:Okay, the next time we're together I can put it up and.
Speaker 1:I can put it down.
Speaker 2:The next time we're together. The next time we're together, I'm doing something to your hair.
Speaker 1:Okay, not coloring it Right, right right. I was thinking the same thing. We've done that, I don't need to change the color.
Speaker 2:No, I'm going to, but you can just help me with the style.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's going to be like pipe cleaner there's so many things, and then you know I don't like people fooling with my hair you don't like tension, you don't like it. Don't pull on my hair. I'm not the massage your scalp kind of girl and that's not my love language. You know how she's tender headed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah she's tender headed so, um, yeah, we will be recording that, because I I've sent you so many. I'm saying so many, but I know I know how you are um around this stuff, so I didn't send you just any and anything. So I'm gonna say at least five to eight things I've sent you over the last few months let's go.
Speaker 1:I haven't seen any, but but we'll see, oh wow, yeah, okay, you don't see my stuff.
Speaker 2:Okay, they were probably not in text. They were probably on IG or Facebook or something.
Speaker 1:But I will find them.
Speaker 2:I will find them, okay. So what do you want to talk about today? Moved out to the West Coast and when I finished up with helping him to get settled, apartment, furniture and that stuff because he's starting adulting and I decided to go see my my big son, as we say, in Jamaica, my first son in LA and he's like mom, you know that you're fully booked, right, because all my friends out here love you and they knew you were coming. And do you want to know everything that I booked, or do you want?
Speaker 2:to just be surprised and I'm like, okay, just surprise me, and I had the best time. It's just such a sweet, sweet, sweet feeling of being known so well by him and he has curated such an amazing, amazing set of friends and they so had a great time. And I wanted to kind of talk about some of what I did. And I also want to say happy pride. This is Pride Month and I so I want to talk about that and how that affects me personally and we can kind of jump into that.
Speaker 1:So what happened was, um, I saw pictures of you hanging out and I know it was so it was so much fun.
Speaker 2:What happened was that I arrived at about noon, um, whatever day it was I think was a Sunday, monday maybe, anyway and the first place we went was to a flea market. It was like a small flea market and language it would see your son knows you totally, totally, and this was one of so many things that we did in just a few days that spoke to the things that I love, including Gnep, so we're going to talk about the Gnep story also, and that was your fault because when you're listen.
Speaker 2:Gnepas they're all different names for it, Some that are not similar at all, but when Leslie was in Costa Rica she did. It was kind of like on one side it was a solid because I got to see her enjoy one of my favorite fruits in the world. It probably ranks.
Speaker 1:I had bunches of them.
Speaker 2:It ranks second to mangoes. For me, mangoes are the top Gneps and then grapes, and because you know I don't always find good mangoes here in the US, grapes kind of rank on top, because the other two are, you know, gneps. Absolutely Very few places in America I've seen them and when I see them they're not luscious. They're not luscious. Leslie showed me this huge, like it was huge. It was huge Like a freezer bag, like a big freezer bag, whatever.
Speaker 1:A gallon size Juicy. They were really wonderful, so very expensive okay, could you stop? Now and I couldn't bring it to you. You know, I understand that, I understand so that was the positive side.
Speaker 2:The negative side of that is I've been craving them since and when I was in Portland I saw people on Facebook advertising it but nobody said where the heck they were. And it was crazy and I would type where no response. It drove me nuts. And I would type where no response. It drove me nuts. And so when I got to LA I told Ajani, look, it's West Coast. If it was in Portland, it's down here in LA. You got to help me find some. You got to find some. So anyway, I digress. So that was a part of the adventure with them. Also, I'm settling in with my Pelosi part of the adventure.
Speaker 2:Okay, um, with them. Also, I'm settling in with my pillow um, so we went to this flea market and when you enter, they um gave you two tickets for drinks. Right, because there was one of the vendors was a um, was a bar, and they had really just amazing drinks and and so we got two free drinks with that and we had those. We enjoyed them very much. One had passion fruit, which it's okay. It's a little too fruity for me. That was his favorite. And then my favorite was one that had mezcal and I want to say ginger and something.
Speaker 1:Anyway, that was his reaction to mr smoky and I'm not a ginger big ginger pan, so I know I know those are two things that are wrong with you, but okay, um so, um.
Speaker 2:So at some point later, some, um, someone was leaving and I, I was kind of towards the front at a high table and they're like oh, we're leaving, we didn't use our drink tickets, do you want to have them? And I said sure, so I took them. And then, when he came back over to me, my son, someone, handed him a ticket.
Speaker 1:So anyway, needless to say, you guys were lit Party over here we were.
Speaker 2:And let me tell you, the DJ was unbelievable. Like old school House music, house music. Like the garage type music, house music, you guys don't know nothing about the Paradise Garage.
Speaker 1:Y'all don't know nothing, nothing, nothing. Going at night, come out at daybreak.
Speaker 2:Started doing my dance and I'm like Ajani, we got to go to a club. He was like are you sure, mom, you know it's pride. And I'm like that's exactly why I want to go, let's go. And I'm like that's exactly why I want to go, let's, let's go.
Speaker 1:He was like give me a second Too much for you.
Speaker 2:He thought it would be too much for me. He must not know me, he must not know about me.
Speaker 1:He probably thought you were me, you know going to sleep at nine o'clock at night.
Speaker 2:Wait. But I did say, okay, but I'm going to need a nap first. So I absolutely took a nap and but it's so comfortable I fell asleep immediately, slept for an hour and then I was ready to go. So, so anyway, I I wanted to kind of, anyway, I wanted to kind of share that story about some of what I did in LA. And then what I knew that I did not want to do is to kind of edit the story.
Speaker 2:And you know, I wanted to talk more broadly about this expansion that I have been on around love and what it looks like and what, and we've kind of touched on this topic once or twice in earlier episodes and but I wanted to be kind of more open and direct about the topic, obviously about me.
Speaker 2:But you know, you, um, we we've talked so much in all these years and we've we've kind of um, you were so influential um in my parenting, um and just kind of expanding as a Christian um what what that means, and and that led to me getting my own sense of how the God that I serve feels about this. And more recently, I think the way that it came up in an earlier podcast was around the last relationship that I was in and then doing some online dating, and so my feeling became came, listen, if you're going to talk about, um, having fun in LA with your son and then this, this, um, pride thing, and it's pride month, um, you know, just just talk about the whole thing. And this podcast is about being liberated, and you and I have always kind of set the. We have always said that this podcast was not going to be about hiding, it was going to be about authenticity.
Speaker 2:And so as I thought about, well, I want to talk about my time there. I felt myself like, well, are you going to talk about, you know, your own kind of expansion, evolution, whatever it is? And I said, yes, I'm going to talk about that, because you know me, once I feel like I am hiding myself or feeling bound, it's an indication to me that it needs to be. I need to open up versus shutting down.
Speaker 1:Like a pressure point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's almost like. Yeah, it's like you know to to do. The opposite of opening up is what feels wrong. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, To me you know all right, Kind of say a little bit more about where you're going.
Speaker 2:Sure, sure, and and this is going to flow because this isn't like a, you know, this conversation is going to unfold in a way that I am most comfortable and also know that any kind of meandering that I may do is not around discomfort, you know. Oh, it's not me filtering myself, let me say it that way. It's not me filtering myself. It's me also knowing that this whole topic is an area that's there's a lot of judgment around right and there's a lot of, you know, a lot of boxes that if you're this then you're not that, or if you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:A lot of way we segregate ourselves into categories, um, a whole lot, and this is one of them, and so kind of the overarching thing for me is that, um, when I was on eHarmony I don't know how long ago it was, it may have been a year by now, I don't have any sense of timing I reached a point and you know, when you're on any kind of technology, you have to check boxes, right, especially on dating sites. You, you check boxes. It's kind of like what do you, what do you want the tech to to do?
Speaker 1:for you the algorithm. Where do they want exactly? It's always that everybody's familiar with that right right so.
Speaker 2:So the, the um, who do you want to be matched with? Um? When that came up, I didn't didn't. I just did the standard thing for me, which was, which was men, and but as I kind of was on this, I'm going to call it healing from and understanding, learning from my last relationship. Some of what came out of that is well, why am I choosing this box? Why is it really? Is there other than the fact that you've always done this, you've always dated men? What else is there that makes you choose this box? I also thought about well, I've always dated men and so far I'm not in a. I am not in a love relationship right now and I haven't been in a long time. And so it was like, well, should you choose some other box? Right, and it was really as simple as that. It almost became. It almost became, in a way, like silly for me to only choose a box that I that I know has not been a successful box for me. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:I remember that time for you. If I can put it into words, it might be a little difficult, but what I remember you thinking is that what feeling do I want to be loved? Yep, and why should I be the one to narrow it down to where that might come from? That's exactly right, man. I remember that.
Speaker 2:You were listening.
Speaker 1:Occasionally.
Speaker 2:I know you nailed that, so it didn't come from this. Oh, I feel like I'm attracted to people other than men. It was more. Why am I only if the things that I want is respect and companionship, and and?
Speaker 1:the more human characteristics. Exactly yeah. Then why am I limiting it to some humans?
Speaker 2:Right, right, and also I'm going to say, however this lands this is just I'm being honest and those choices have not been an indicator that, yeah, that is a group of humans that works for you. Right, I'm just saying those are individuals, but I'm just saying as a kind of just a just, almost a logical kind of processing way, not an emotional way.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right If this were you know, just any other, just logic way of looking at things. Well, in all your life that didn't work, and when I say it didn't work, I mean that it didn't look the way that I now want companionship to look, and I experienced some of what I really desire companionship to look like in my last relationship and why am I only looking for it with those types of humans is the way that I landed.
Speaker 2:I didn't wake up one day and say, oh, I'm attracted to people other than men. I came to start questioning why my default is that, and does it have to be? Does it have?
Speaker 1:to be, and what could love look like in other ways, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2:And how do I show up that makes love come to me in whatever human brings it to me? How do I kind of position myself? And what I mean by that, for example, is, you know it could be. Do I start looking at men just in a friendship way and see what happens? Or do I start looking at women or non-binary people? You know, just be open to it.
Speaker 1:You know the problem with. Well, there's several problems. One society, as you said, almost forces us to check a box, and then that box becomes so exclusionary.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know that's one thing, but what I also remember about this period in your life, this particular time you're referring to, is how you presented it to me, and you know how I am. I'm like what, I've got too many things to think about. Now I've got to think about this, and how will I look at you and then, do I need to start being jealous? You got to a place before.
Speaker 2:I was even thinking of anything you were like.
Speaker 1:You know, I immediately. First of all, you know, if anybody knows me, I'm very competitive. You are, and ain't nobody sharing my bestie with me? Not if you identify as a woman. You're my woman.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. No, I appreciate, I even appreciated kind of the way that you, um, you kind of of you were, you were, you were just so honest about it so it started to become like not this theoretical thing, because you immediately kind of jumped into the conversation with me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know me, I'm always like I write enough about you. How does this look like me?
Speaker 2:That's exactly how it went down it always goes down like that.
Speaker 1:It always comes back to leslie but what caused that?
Speaker 2:what that caused in me is it caused me to be like really like slow down. Okay, what is it?
Speaker 1:wait this is you haven't lost me, and I'm like well, how? And I'm like well, how is this going?
Speaker 2:to go.
Speaker 1:What are we going to go out? The four of us and this.
Speaker 2:You're jumping the gun. I'm not even all the way there, you know just.
Speaker 1:I always go from zero to 60. You know it's like, oh, hold up, this is true, this is true, it's like, oh, hold up, this is true, this is true.
Speaker 2:So some of you know I have been kind of you know, as a part of me kind of doing this expansion thing right. So think of this as another point in my life where I'm blowing the balloon a little bit more, and I know yeah, and it's kind of some of the the ideas around how I show up in the world as a black woman.
Speaker 2:I started thinking about the concepts like what are the assumptions that are made about me as a black woman and what would the assumptions be made about me as a black woman? And what would the assumptions be made about me as a black woman who is, you know, in the LGBTQIA community, right?
Speaker 1:Are you being concerned about judgment you?
Speaker 2:mean Well, that too. But let me give you an example which kind of takes it a little further than that right Is the labeling, right, so well, what are you right? So well, what are you Right, well it's really easy, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:You know and then when you get labeled, okay, people have a perception about what that is. And are you that? And are you not labeling yourself because you have some fears about it or you know? Is it important for you to label yourself? Because you are, you know, you live your life out loud and it's important for people to see someone who looks like you to, you know, to show pride in who they are, even you know, the Q being the questioning part, right.
Speaker 1:That's heavy, that's a lot.
Speaker 2:Well, you know I'm a deep thinker, so these are some of the ways that I've been kind of processing and getting help from some of my loved ones to find ways to understand things better and to do my investigations and so on, and a term that I recently became aware of not that recently, but I've more recently been reading up about it is let me get it right. Is let me get it right? It's when the assumption is and you are geared towards heterosexualism versus homosexualism, right, for example, if you think about our society's gear towards the patriarchy, right For sure, right. And all of that means. All that. That means and think of it like in a negative way, right now yeah, yeah, and laws and rules and stereotypes.
Speaker 2:Right, Men lead. You know, women are subservient.
Speaker 1:And sexism.
Speaker 2:Right, Women can't do certain things, so on and so forth, and apply that to heterosexualism. I'm not going to try to get the words right, I'm just going to speak, Okay, so tell me what you mean now. So what I mean by that is there's, in the same way that, um, our society's geared towards, um, male dominance. It's geared towards and and and um the male way, the male gaze, if you will, the male gaze, if you will.
Speaker 1:it's also geared towards a heterosexual gaze. Yeah, and is that? Do you mean heteronormative?
Speaker 2:It's heteronormative Right. Exactly, it's heteronormative, but the compulsory part comes in because of the heteronormative right, so meaning that the structures are set up to default to you being heterosexual. And so this article that I just found I started reading it earlier today, but it was so deep it was like, ooh, I need to print it out so I could read it and highlight and so on but it talked about the importance of um straight women understanding um this aspect of the way that our society is structured, um in the same way that they understand the patriarchy. A part of the patriarchy is hetero right.
Speaker 2:Because if the patriarchy is designed for men, then it also designs who women are.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's just true. That's true. I know you didn't finish reading the article, but why then does the article posit that you need to, as if you're that straight women need to be more aware of this? Sure.
Speaker 2:So one, one glimpse of it that I that I did read, and this is kind of where I stopped myself because it was getting really juicy is getting really juicy. It's really. If you are, if you consider yourself a feminist, for example, you need to understand all of the things that pressure and expect women to conform to a certain way Right, and so it's almost like to ignore that part of patriarchy is wrong. That part of patriarchy is wrong. Do you understand that?
Speaker 2:If it is a part of the patriarchy, then you know, you should be made aware of it.
Speaker 1:You should stay aware of it.
Speaker 2:Exactly Because it affects your fellow woman. Yeah, Right and so so anyway, I'm learning more about that.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so I just wanted to kind of I want to take a look at this article. That's one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll send it to you. It was. I wish I. I tried to print it before we got together but I couldn't get it to. I couldn't get it to, I couldn't get it to to go to the printer. But I will refer to it and I will send you a link to it so you can read about it. But yeah, so tell me how you're. You're kind of.
Speaker 1:Well, well, we don't have a whole lot of time left in this particular time and we can certainly come back to it because it's our podcast, but I want you to tell me where you've landed on this. You know, kind of like bringing on home and where are you now? Because you spoke and I remember the time when you were on eHarmony and choosing and the discussion that that evoked for you, but where are you now?
Speaker 2:Well, one thing I want to say is that I don't feel like there is a destination. My destination is to find the next love of my life. That's the destination right. My destination isn't around. Kind of understanding these concepts and that will come. This is not a scientific or theoretical work that.
Speaker 2:I'm doing.
Speaker 2:I want to understand myself more fully.
Speaker 2:That has been my journey for probably since I was eight, and I say eight and eight is my favorite number because at eight is when I really started to see myself as a person, separate and apart from my siblings, separate and apart from my parents, and I really started to have conversations with myself, and so this is a part of that journey.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to in any way accept anyone's pressure either to define myself or to not, accept anyone's pressure either to define myself or to not. I'm not going to accept anyone's pressure if I were to kind of take what you asked me as pressurized a little bit. Right, it's not about defining myself. The destination is understanding the world better, and my belief until I die will be that my faith tells me that we should be in a state of constant change and understanding of ourselves and moving towards becoming a better you, and this is a part of that. This is absolutely the way that I, the way that I see this, and as it kind of anchors into some things that are already there, I will anchor or I will attach, but you know I'm definitely not going to like come out of one set of rules and go into another set of rules that I'm not going to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what?
Speaker 2:I mean and I know that the little bit of experience that I have in terms of having conversations with women is that there are these rules and it was like, well, I'm not doing that, like I'm not moving from. This is how you act here and I'm challenging how I acted there, that I'm not going to do. So that was a real kind of okay, not happening. So I'm just on this journey not happening.
Speaker 1:So I'm just on this, I'm just on this journey, you know, and, and and. What I'm thinking about when you mentioned about your faith and our faith, is that our faith puts love above many, many things, everything, and our faith also doesn't Everything. And our faith also doesn't restrict and put love in a box and say it has to look this way, and some people may disagree with that, but the way that my understanding of it is that you know, love is kind.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, and the story of loving our neighbors and things like that, and I think that that can go in a whole lot of different directions. Yeah, but it can also inform us on how our behavior is toward people who we other, or people who we put in a box, or how we see people who don't look like ourselves or act like ourselves, or people that we don't understand. Yeah, you know?
Speaker 2:Yeah for sure. I'm glad you said that because it's given me the opportunity to also say that what I've already kind of moved through in my understanding of my faith Christ is. I'm so grounded in that that I'm beyond the oh I got to check, oh, I got to check, oh, I got to check. He's already been doing such a work in me that my prayer life, my writing life, which includes, you know, there's so much prayer and talking to God in my morning writing practice, there's so many points in my days where I'm in conversation and checking in With the Spirit and checking in that it doesn't have to become this exercise for this thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just the way that I operate. That's called relationship.
Speaker 2:It is called relationship, relationship, it is called relationship, it is called relationship and um, yeah, so, wow, that's it. And um, I do. I do want to have like a follow-up to this, because you know I've just with it being um, pride month.
Speaker 2:You know, I've seen, I've just noticed so many things that where people are kind of challenging this notion of other people's joy and you know I saw something about the rainbow means this. It doesn't mean that it's like, okay, I get it. You know, I know the story of Noah. I mean, but okay, but do you have to rain on someone else's parade? You know, literally do you have to like. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Okay, but also it, it here's another thing that I'm thinking. We understand where the rainbow came in the biblical terms and with Noah, yeah, but is that the only thing that the rainbow means?
Speaker 2:I'm just saying, was there an issue with rainbow bright?
Speaker 1:Is it only an?
Speaker 2:issue, because it's this community that's using that symbol.
Speaker 1:Right, I'm saying does the rainbow have any other significance? Is that again putting it in a box and it's? I own it only. It's all mine and nobody else's.
Speaker 2:It's so exclusionary?
Speaker 1:You know, we don't realize that that's what we're doing.
Speaker 2:For sure, for sure. I have to say one other thing real quick, les. So one of the places that I went is to this just amazing botanical gardens.
Speaker 1:What's it called?
Speaker 2:The Huntington Gardens.
Speaker 2:It's like a kind of library slash, museum slash, just these beautiful grounds, and you couldn't help but kind of see God's variety Everywhere you looked. I was fascinated by tree trunks. I will definitely put some pictures, because I took pictures of a lot of tree trunks, because I kept seeing them, like skin and just God's variety and this idea of limitation and it's this way and not that way, or it's these people are not those people, or it was just an affront. What I was seeing with my eyes was such an affront to these restrictive ways that we think about people.
Speaker 1:When I saw God's glory, it almost means like you have to unleash them and let them go. You know, I think that we can put in these circumstances, where his love and grace becomes so obvious to us, when it's like oh, that's what he means the abundance, the abundance the abundance, the expansion, the, you know, the galactical, the creation, all of those things. And the timeliness of it all.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, it was incredible. It was incredible. So anyway, it's a happy bride.
Speaker 1:Great way to end. Wow, okay, all right, this has been another episode of Black Boomer Besties from Brooklyn, brooklyn.