Can former presidents really get away with anything while in office? Join us as Trey Gowdy breaks down the Supreme Court's recent ruling on presidential immunity and its potential repercussions. With a bold 6-3 decision, the Court has set the stage for a fierce legal battleground, offering substantial protection for official actions but leaving the door open for prosecution of unofficial acts. Gowdy sheds light on Chief Justice Roberts' minimalist approach in the majority opinion and what this means for Jack Smith’s case against Trump, especially regarding alleged election interference and the January 6th events.
We don’t shy away from the complexities and controversies, tackling the grey areas around what constitutes an “official act.” From the legality of high-stakes operations like the elimination of Osama bin Laden to the ongoing legal challenges in New York and Atlanta, we cover it all. With a mix of humor and serious analysis, we navigate through Trump's recent legal battles and victories, pointing out the broader implications for presidential powers and immunity. Join us for a compelling discussion that keeps you on the edge of your seat as the situation continues to evolve.
Can former presidents really get away with anything while in office? Join us as Trey Gowdy breaks down the Supreme Court's recent ruling on presidential immunity and its potential repercussions. With a bold 6-3 decision, the Court has set the stage for a fierce legal battleground, offering substantial protection for official actions but leaving the door open for prosecution of unofficial acts. Gowdy sheds light on Chief Justice Roberts' minimalist approach in the majority opinion and what this means for Jack Smith’s case against Trump, especially regarding alleged election interference and the January 6th events.
We don’t shy away from the complexities and controversies, tackling the grey areas around what constitutes an “official act.” From the legality of high-stakes operations like the elimination of Osama bin Laden to the ongoing legal challenges in New York and Atlanta, we cover it all. With a mix of humor and serious analysis, we navigate through Trump's recent legal battles and victories, pointing out the broader implications for presidential powers and immunity. Join us for a compelling discussion that keeps you on the edge of your seat as the situation continues to evolve.
Well, I don't think we know yet. It's certainly not a victory for him. I don't even think it's a tie for him. I don't see how you can sort out. Look, our Constitution is majestically vague about what presidential powers we know. The president has the pardon power, but honestly, commander in chief, what other powers are there? So you have express, you have implied, and then you have this word penumbra. What's in the shadows of those express powers? That can only be fleshed out in litigation. The Supreme Court doesn't handle litigation. So if he wants to proceed on what is unequivocally a private act, he's welcome, I guess, to proceed without prosecution, but that's still going to take time to assert that it is unequivocally private.
Speaker 2:
This is not a win for Jack Smith. How close to a tie it is depends upon what the remainder. You'll remember, brett, when John Roberts was confirmed, he said he was a minimalist. That was the word he used. He talked about judicial humility and that he was a minimalist. It is not surprising to me that he wrote the majority opinion. He wants to write it in a minimal way.
Speaker 1:
Well, that was the venerable Trey Gowdy talking about the Trump immunity case. This is Tim. This is Get Off my Lawn the mad ramblings of a Gen Xer. Don't forget to like, don't forget to subscribe, don't forget to click on the notification, doohickey, because it's the only way you're going to know when we do these types of videos.
Speaker 1:
Well, the Supreme Court came out with kind of a surprise ruling 6-3, that ex-presidents have substantial protection from prosecution. Now this course all goes back to special counsel Jack Smith case for the election interference. You know, it's kind of a surprise the way this came down. Now it's really only I've been trying to read the decision. I've been trying to read the majority decision by by Justice Roberts, but it's a little difficult read. I'm trying to go through as slowly as possible, but it's offering ex-presidents immunity, but it's a little difficult read. I'm trying to go through as slowly as possible, but it's offering ex-presidents immunity, but it's offering them immunity for official actions committed while in office, but not unofficial acts. So this is where it's going to get sticky. This is where Trey Gowdy was kind of saying it's a little bit of a tie Because, you don't know, trump has always been arguing.
Speaker 1:
What happened on January 6th. What happened with the alleged election interference? Because you know, when it's a Democrat we don't use the word alleged because they're always innocent, but for a Republican we have to use words. It's alleged, it's just, it's just an interesting decision and it fell right along party lines. You kind of knew that was going to happen. That was no different. But it's basically saying that the president's not above the law but the Congress may not criminalize the president's conduct in carrying out responsibilities of the executive action under the Constitution and the system of separated powers designed by the framers have always demanded an energetic, independent executive. That came from just justice chief roberts in the lower court court's rulings.
Speaker 1:
Um, the lower court had an had an interesting question. One of the judges I don't remember which judge it was, but she had an interesting question. She she talked about seal team six and the assassination of Osama bin Laden, and it was interesting because her question was framing the fact that even though the president sent out SEAL Team 6 to eliminate Osama bin Laden, would that be considered murder? Would that be? Would he be immune from being in prosecution for committing murder? Would that be? Would he be immune from being prosecution for committing murder even though it's done as an official act of the United States because he was listed as a top terrorist. No-transcript, that's basically covered. That's basically covered in everyone.
Speaker 1:
Now you know the liberals are going to go crazy. That's why I'm here in the bunker, that's why I got the helmet on, because you know they're going to go nuts. They're going to go crazy because this whole thing with special counsel Jack Smith in the election interference case it was. He was basically saying it was a conspiracy to defraud the United States and a conspiracy to obstruct official proceedings. Obstruction of an attempt to obstruct an official proceedings and conspiracy against the rights. These are all the things that that Jack Smith is trying to charge Trump with. Now Trump has always said that. You know everything that he did in reference to the Capitol. You know the I'm not even called. I don't call it a riot, but you know some people do the January 6th riots and the election and the alleged election interference was all done as an official act.
Speaker 1:
So that's why this case went all the way up to the Supreme Court. And it's interesting because you figure that A president, while in office, has to have some type of protection and it's not just for protection from internally in the United States. I think it also should kind of go a little bit more abroad that he cannot be held accountable for official acts of his office. And it goes back to, like I said, it goes back to the lower court rulings about like doing something about you know, seal team six. What happened there? Basically, someone could say well, you went out and you murdered osama bin, so you should be held responsible. You should be held responsible for that and you should be charged with murder. But at the end of the day, it's an official act. Now why all this ruling does I mean? Basically, what it does is nothing for the new york case. It does nothing for the civil case. It does nothing for the case really, in regards to what's going on in Atlanta. That case should be dead anyways, because we all know about the you know, we all know about the prosecution misconduct there. Or it actually could apply to Atlanta.
Speaker 1:
It's going to be interesting because I don't think this ends the Jack Smith case. I don't think it ends it, I think it delays it, I think it pushes it back for an extended period of time. It's going to push it back well past the election. It's going to push it back maybe years, because he is going. Jack Smith is going to have to prove that Trump was not having an official act when he was doing these things. He's going to have to prove this act when he was doing these things. He's going to have to prove this.
Speaker 1:
And I really find this interesting because, like I said, to me it's a tie, to me it's a draw, to me it's a standstill, because you don't know exactly what a judge is going to rule or what someone's going to rule in reference to what is an official act and what is not an official act. So to me, in some regards, while it puts Trump off the gets him off the snide a little bit about this I still have to go through all 43 pages but it also looks at it that he kind of does have sweeping powers for his duties. I said duty, sorry, that just made me laugh for a second. It gives him sweeping powers and it gives him that immunity as long from criminal prosecution, as long as it is deemed an official act. It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
Speaker 1:
It's going to be interesting to see where this goes, but at this point in time I mean it's, it's a win for the former president. He's, he's. He's been racking up the winds left and right. It's to drive the Democrats and the liberals crazy. So we know we're going to just stay here in the bunker as long as we can. We got the helmet on, we got the gas, we're all ready. Like I said, as soon as the radiation dissipates we'll come back up, but it's going to get real interesting folks, so stay tuned Again. This is Tim. This is Get Off my Lawn. The Mad Realm is with Gen Xer and I'm out of here.
