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Good day to my listeners. Welcome to is your way in your way? And I'm your host, Cassandra Crawley Mayo. And for some of you is your way in your way is my debut book. My debut book is titled is your way in your way?
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And this call for individuals who are not familiar or my new listeners. This call is for individuals who are ready to move forward in their lives, but they are feeling stuck, challenged to overcoming obstacles, needing to mitigate those self imposed barriers that's preventing you from moving forward like that negative self talk, procrastination and self sabotage and all of those things that's preventing you from moving forward and living your best life on your terms. And we talk about topics related to business and personal development and also give you an opportunity to do some self reflection. So today I'm very excited about this topic. It's called everything is energy.
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Want to work with yours is the question, would you like to work with your energy? So who do I bring to the stage? Is Fran Bailey. And we are going to for first of all, welcome, Fran. Thanks for coming on my show.
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I'm so appreciative of that. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Yeah. And my listeners are aware that first of all, I'm going to read her bio and then after that, then we're going to get into our conversation.
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We're going to have some dialogue here. Okay. Fran Bailey's extensive training and dancing combined with energy healing have evolved into a simple method for evolving the mind, body, heart, and soul. Since 2002, Fran has channeled her passion in the Sheva method, which stands for seeking harmony and energy, voice in action. This process resets your system to restore with practical techniques to live more consciously through energetic awareness.
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She is thrilled to share this work, which has been used in years of client consultation and emergence to offer clarity, distinction, and balance. She is also an author of a book titled Emergence. So to get started, Fran, I like to know and my listeners always like to know, what was your backstory until you became an energy healer? What were you doing before that? Well, it's a history of being a modern dancer.
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I grew up in a metaphysical home with lots of music and dance. My dad sang, my mom danced and just very positive upbringing and I loved music and I loved movement. I loved the fact that I could express myself through my body. And it just, I started at a very young age and just went with it and it just did something for me, I think because when you dance and when you listen to music and when you're on stage, you have to know about energy. You have to know where you are in space.
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And so that was always a thrill for me. And, you know, then I was very spiritual growing up. Had a near death experience. So I think this the metaphysical and the spiritual and the, you know, understanding about movement in the body, studying the anatomy, because I had to, because I majored in dance. Okay.
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Was very clear about physical. Is that a child? No, it's, it's my fur baby. Oh. And he is locked up, but he's getting loud for some reason, because I think he, he wants to come in, but he can't.
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Oh, he can't. Okay. No animals. I, I work with animals. My animals work with my patients.
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So I.
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Anyway, so I think in a nutshell, I just love dance. And then somebody that I taught, I taught at the Montessori school and he was a parent and he was a doctor from South Africa and said that you can see energy. And I went, okay, what's that? And I began training with a woman he trained with out of California, rose, medical intuitive. And that's how I learned how to put energy into my hands, like my feet.
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And so my body and, you know, my intuition increased. I did that for twelve years and basically worked with kids and at an affinity center, which is working with therapists there. So it was a combination of learning energy, of course, movement, dance, and deep meditation. I did that for 15 years, teaching meditation.
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On top of that, my father died of cancer when I was in my forties. And, you know, the body responds, the body doesn't lie.
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And so a year after he died, I got cancer, so I had cervical cancers. Yeah.
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No, I'm so sorry. He is, he is acting very rude. Oh, oh, well, anyway, so that's kind of where the Sheva method began. I started, I understood how to heal myself, kill the cancer cell. And that was sort of the impetus.
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If I can do this, a lot of people can do this, at least have the wherewithal to understand that there is some self healing there, out there. Right? So let me ask you, what is energy healing like? Energy work? Energy work?
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Okay, well, everything is energy. Everything is a chakra system. And I work in the chakra system. That's, that's the chakra system. In the center of the body, there's seven, what I call psychic centers.
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And that's from the Hindu perspective. So when, when a chakra is off, the body's off. That's what I study. I work. Do that with body work or energy work.
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Or healing work. So when you, if you're sensitive to energy, then you begin to read and study about energy, then you understand that everything is energy. And if negative energy, or if there's a pull on the body, that's not assisting the body in a healthy way, then we look at that and try to change that energy. Does that, does that have anything to do with, you know, sometimes when people meet you, or when people just meet and people say, I love their energy, they have really positive energy. Is that the same?
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Yeah. Okay. I think that we all instinctually can read energy and know it. Some just, you know, when you meet someone, your aura, your energy field meets the other field. And so there's that frequency that is around us all the time.
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We each have that frequency. So frequency, you know, if it matches, like, wow, okay, I get this person, and then there's somebody that's just totally different and that doesn't work, and we just pass by because it's just not happening, not working right. The more you know about energy, the more you understand that. The more you can step, the more you can study people. You can understand that person probably would not work with me, or I can see the energy being coded to another person, or they're corded to a negative thought.
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So I can look at that attachment and say, there's the attachment. Now, if you pull the attachment away, let that negative thought go, then the energy shifts. Okay, well, this is new for me. I've heard of energy, energy and chakra, and some of my listeners probably are new to them. But this, what's interesting to me, because this is the work you do when something is different for people, like, different modalities.
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It's kind of like, woo woo. That kind of thing. Like, hmm, what's going on with her does have you, do you, how do you overcome that? Or have you encountered people you wanted to work with like that? And they were like, I am curious if I want to do this because I'm still determining what this is.
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Do you encounter that, and if so, how do you handle that? Well, that's a good question. People are becoming more aware and conscious because there's so much out there. Yeah, I really do. I really believe that we are all on this kind of conscious path.
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So I don't fear that as much anymore. It's really a science, it's really physics. And I just happen to have an ability to do that, to read, but at the same time, understand that it's really simple. Okay. It's really, really simple.
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And, you know, like, for instance, I have a client right now. Somebody told him about me, and.
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He was quite afraid to come to see me because I said, okay, well, let's talk on the phone. Let's figure out where, what you need. Right.
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And I said, well, you probably need three sessions. You don't have to, but you probably need three. So we can kind of knock this out and figure out what. What is really, where the issue is, what is in your way, basically. So I can look at it energetically and say, okay, let's look at these reasons.
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Let's mentally look at it. Let's physically look at it, and emotionally and spiritually look at the resistance. Okay, so go ahead. I'm sorry. It's about resistance.
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So he feels stuck. And I said, okay, well, let's. Let's look at all the scenarios and let's go back a little bit and see where that energy could be stuck. Okay. And I only suggest it if they might be ready.
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I don't suggest it otherwise. Okay. Because it has to be a duality. Yeah. Yeah.
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I was going to ask that. Yeah. Because they'll resist it and you can feel it in it just doesn't work. Okay. Right.
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And so I'm very careful.
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Energetically, someone may not be ready until the second session or the end of the first one. Cue will be one word that resonates with them, or one analogy. And sometimes it's not what I'm saying, it's actually the energy in which I'm putting into the words. I know that sounds really odd, but it's like an ingredient. Let's say you're making a casserole and you're adding certain spices, and something makes it great.
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Right. That's when they resonate. Okay. Okay. Now what?
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Do you work with certain professions or who do you work with? I work a lot of doctors. Okay.
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And I work with therapists, a lot of psychologists. They need a lot of clearing to stay grounded, stay present. I work with athletes, football players, dancers.
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For instance, a modern dancer, Bill T. Jones, a very famous dancer in New York, he came to Cincinnati, and one of the dancers fell, and I saw her fall. She was up, you know, standing on this guy's shoulders. She flipped and fell on her head. Yeah.
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And someone suggested that she come see me the next day. And I said, well, yes, this is going to take about 2 hours if you want to come. And she's a professional dancer, you know, so what I could tell right away the emotions that were running around her because someone had just left the company. In companies, lots of drama happened. So there was a lot of emotion around the injury, and in order for the emotion to be released, she was crying, and then I could get in and fix, move the energy in the neck so that she could release some of this sorrow.
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But she was hurt, too, right? I mean, she fell, she was hurt. So, yeah, I'm doing two things at once. Okay. And, um, you know, she may.
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So what happens if there's an emotional disturbance? She may not have been present, present in the performance. That means emotionally, she was maybe upset and wasn't focused on what she was doing. Okay, so it's that kind of analogy. Okay.
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So she. We worked 2 hours. She felt so much better. She performed the next night and was grateful.
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She has a testimonial on my website. Oh. So it just depends. Football players have bad injuries, you know, so I work on those guys. I've worked, and they've also danced with me as a ballet.
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Okay. So it's kind of a combination of a lot of different things, but, yeah, the doctors are. They don't get a lot of help. What do you mean? I mean, they don't get a lot of relief as far as what they do.
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And who's their healer? Who's their. Who do they do? Yeah. Same as a therapist, I would think.
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Because I'm, like, very similar. Yeah. Yeah. But what about individuals that are stuck? And I talked about that, like, my audience and my clients, I say we want to kind of mitigate things so that they can start living their best life.
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What do you think? They maybe want to write a book, or they want to start a business, or they want to change jobs, but they just can't do it. What is that about? You think something in their body, then? It could be a number of things, yes.
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I think that it's interesting. I did a reading many years ago and happened to find the CD. Yeah. And listen to it, you know, and that was many years ago. That was like ten years ago.
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So I was observing myself in resistance, and I think the biggest thing is. That.
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Either one other people's energy are in your space, so you can't. Okay. So there's guilt and shame that you want to move on, that you're being held back.
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You know, moving out of your own way is part of letting go. So there's letting go and then opening that door. And it may be dark, but jumping. Decide to make that move will give you freedom. Hmm.
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So my practicing, like, going up the steps and opening that door and looking out there. Maybe not jumping, but actually looking and seeing what it feels like. Seeing what it feels like to just jump.
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See what it feels like to be free. Yeah. In your own creativity. Oh, my God, that would be marvelous. Yes.
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Like heaven, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's kind of like. It's kind of like a child has no fear. Just say anything, do anything.
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Not afraid. They're afraid of things, but they're just child. Childlike, you know? So. Yeah, so that's.
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That's when you said that it made me think of that. Yeah, same kind of, you know, you have to play with it and just have fun with it, say, okay, well, let's just test ourselves. And how do I feel? What does it feel like when I. When I let go?
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Do I want more of that? But that's fear. That that's fear. So how do you. I mean, how do you deal with that?
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Because a lot of things, it's. I mean, we all have fear, but to some extent, it's just off the chain, I call it. Because fear can stop you as well. Well, the chain is the fear. Okay.
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Right. Okay is the fear. The chain is holding you back. Right. Okay.
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So if you just play with the idea of unraveling it, like you have an image of yourself and say, let's just unravel that cord or whatever, when. Whatever you want to call it, and just sit in my energy, where I am now, what makes me happy, what matters the most to me, how do I really love myself?
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But you have that experience, years of experience in that. And for my listeners, they don't. So let's say so when it's like that and you're resisting. I like that word, because that's exactly what it all is, is resisting. How does that have a lot to do with the chakra?
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And because you said, when the chakra is, and I don't know a lot about it, when it's off, that means your body's off or something that's going on, that's off, and you're able to feel what that is because is it like a blockage? Yeah. So every chakra has a meaning. Every center has a meaning. First chakra is the base of the spine.
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It's fight or flight. It's fear. Second chakra is pubic bone to belly button. That's creativity, emotions, boundaries, sexuality. Third is belly button to breastbone.
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That's her stomach. That's the ego. That's the self talk.
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Fourth is the heart. Love. Self love always everything comes back to the heart, always everything. Okay. Get this communication.
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So you're speaking authentically through the heart. To speak with an authentic voice, the intuition, clairvoyance.
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And that's integrating all these centers. The 7th is sort. Right. Okay. All that information.
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All information goes through each center every hour and a half, any information that you're giving. So this is a system. This is a system that works through the body.
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If I look at the third and someone's in resistance or someone is their super ego and arrogant or whatever, they're. They think that they have to do it this way. They should do, and they need to do it because somebody told them, and then they're not doing it right. Then they have self esteem issues, and they have concern and worry. I can never do it.
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Then that negative energy shuts down third chakra. Okay.
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So you want to say to yourself, okay, I want my authentic voice to come forward. I want to know what I'm really feeling. I'm going to let go of the should have tos and odds and look at this avenue or this road in which I want to take without anybody telling me right or wrong. I just want to experience that. And that's how you start.
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Okay. So obviously, you're very intuitive, and so you're able to, based on the chakra and the healing that you're doing, you're able to identify which part, which chakra is out of line, and then you work on getting it back in line. Do you work on it with your hands, with your mind? Well, it depends on the client. I mean, usually the biggest, you know, and I can do online the biggest work, I usually do three sessions, and you really get a full gamut of what.
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What it is that I do. Okay. And that will set you on your road. Mm hmm. This.
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This is a road for you. What I do is facilitate and give you information. You make the decision. Okay. So it's your decision.
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I'm assisting you in finding the love in yourself. Okay. Okay. So that you can carry on with the purpose. Okay.
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All right. So that your life will have meaning. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. That's what we're here for.
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Right. Okay. You know, you mentioned in the beginning of the show that you had healed yourself. You had cancer, and you healed yourself. When I thought about that, I was like, well, you should be famous.
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So many people have that disease, have cancer. And if they knew that you healed yourself, wouldn't you think that other individuals would want you to help heal them? Oh, I have. Okay. Yeah, I have.
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So, wait, go ahead, ask me. What? Yeah, I was thinking, you know, people don't know what they don't know, so the world doesn't know who Fran Bailey is. So just say. I mean, you're over in Ohio.
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You know, the Cleveland hospital, the clinic, the Cincinnati. You know, if those individuals were aware, and there's so many people that have cancer, it seemed like they would reach out to you. Or individuals that are aware, do they reach out to you? And. But as you indicated, they have to be open to whatever.
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They can't resist it. And then perhaps you've, you've had individuals that had cancer or some other ailment or something that you weren't able to heal, and perhaps you weren't able to heal because they weren't open to it. So I know I'm all over the place, but I'm just like, okay, if you healed yourself, man, you should, you should be on the national news. And.
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You know, you know, it's interesting working with doctors, mds, who are alternative doctors as well. I mean, they certainly understand the system. And the system is changing quite a bit. There are so many more alternative ways to focus on whatever you're dealing with. You know, we know our bodies best.
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Yes, that's number one. So when someone works with me, I ask them, what, what are you noticing? What are you observing? What are you feeling? What are you knowing?
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What are you hearing? What are you smelling? What is it that. What you're just getting to the point of observing your body, your body, intelligence? What is it telling you?
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I mean, I can go in and, I mean, I've had patients that didn't make it, and I knew that they wouldn't, but I carried them, helped them carry them to the light.
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You know, we're all, we all experience life and death at the same time. The spiritual world is present with us all the time.
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So someone who is, I've had quite a few women who have had breast cancer, and they've had to take everything out and everything. And so they would come see me before, during, after. And often the most important thing is that we all have cancer cells.
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You don't fear cancer. You befriend it. You say, okay, there's a hiccup here. This is an interim in my life. This is a portion of time that I have to spend focusing on me.
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The cancer isn't going to be senior.
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I am. I am.
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Yeah. So it doesn't matter. You're still whole. You still have a spiritual world. You still have connection with the authentic self.
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You still have love.
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If you work with the body and let the body do its job, that's a different thought.
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Yeah. Okay. Because this instrument is amazing. If I can go in and kill cancer cells. Well, I was seeing a doctor at the same time and go in and shrink the cell.
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Don't explode the cell, but shrink the cell and realize that I have, I'm not going to have any guilt or shame that this is happening. Mm hmm. So having that kind of stops it or resist it when you, because, you know, when shame, and I should have, I look at that as judgment. You're judging yourself. Mm hmm.
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That is a nasty energy. Okay. All right. You know, I was reading that. I'm.
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Curious about your psychic abilities or intuition. Is that, are you trained to be that or is it an innate gift or.
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Yeah, I would say that it's a natural gift I had as a child. Okay. Of course, I didn't know that. Okay.
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But I would hear things or see things or just know things and.
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You. Know, having a near death experience. When. I left my body, they said, you're not ready. And I went back into my body like umbilical cord.
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You jumped back into your body. Something happened then. I think when you have those experiences, those are very spiritual experiences. Those are so, you know, I think that obviously I trained and honed in on this skill, but I was always at twelve, it hit me at 19, I found these meditations. They wanted to come in and, you know, what is this?
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I'm a little freaked out. And then in my twenties, same thing. And then in my forties, they found me. Okay, there, no, there was no turning back. No turning back.
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Okay. So I had to open that door and jump and started training, you know, deep meditation, finding out about my abilities, bringing them on board, knowing that everybody thought I was a little crazy. Yeah, sure. I'm not. If somebody said, you're the most grounded, you're as old as Jared, and you're the most grounded healer I've ever known.
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You have to use humor. Yeah, I see these things. Like, I see somebody having an accident the next day, and I'll tell him, don't do that. Right? Mm hmm.
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Okay. Now it just comes up. I don't know when, I don't know. But if I don't think that they'll believe me, I won't say anything. Exactly.
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Exactly. Let me ask you this.
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Uncovering one's full potential.
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We all have gifts, and I believe that we are all here for a reason. You know, we have meaning to our lives, but a lot of people may not feel that way, but because I know that I am working in my gift, and I have this passion, and mine is empowering women to start living their best life on their terms. You know, I wouldn't want anyone to transition and. And feel like, wow, I should have done this, I should have done that. You hear that all the time.
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I'd like to prevent or mitigate that with many women. So, what would be your methodology or roadmap for uncovering someone's full potential?
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The roadmap would be, first of all, have an agreement with yourself. Okay? Have an agreement that you want to go down this path and that no one will pull you off it.
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Trust your instinct, your intuition, that first voice—not the doubting voice, the first voice. Right? Understand that emotionally, physically, spiritually, and psychologically, you've got to be on board. All those have to be on board.
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This what I teach. So it's a very. You can go to my website, download a meditation at the bottom. But the most important thing, if you have to be in sync with all those parts of you so that you can use all the aspects that you are developing and you pull from each one to the authentic purpose.
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So would you call that a mindset? I call it a mindset. I would call that a daily routine. Okay? A daily awareness, a daily observation.
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I've just finished my Sheva introduction method online course. And that's a really good start to, you know, because it teaches you sort of the full picture of, you know, why we're here. What can you hone in on finding that center? Finding yourself.
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And it talks about chakras and meditation and clearing, and there's meditation on. There's body work on there. There's, you know, the body response. The body doesn't lie. It will respond.
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The idea of being observant, the observer of yourself, is part of the equation of going forward.
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There's the Enneagram, which is the last bit of the Sheva method, which is the study of personalities, the mind, the body, and the heart. That is sort of the last thing that the method really took off. Okay? It was designed by a Russian in the late 1800s who studied movement all over the world in different cultures and decided that we are really all one.
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Some tend to navigate through the head. Some navigate through the heart. Some navigate through the body. Okay.
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Energetically, someone is always in the head, worried and concerned, and asked a thousand questions and can't ask their own thinking. You know, they have. That's the resistance. I will ask them what they think they are thinking.
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If they think what they. I'm sorry, sorry. What they think they are feeling, because they're going to head first. They're not going to go here. Okay.
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Okay. So what holds us back or our personality pattern? That's the other twist that unfold and get out of the way. That's what it's done. You get out of your own way in order to find you.
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Okay.
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So, I mean, what happens with these sessions is if you work with me, I can.
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I can, um.
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How do I say this?
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I can energetically read your. Your energy and find what and where would be the resistance to the step that you want to take? The next step that you want to. Take.
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First state the step, then look at the resistance, then move out of your own way to find the step going forward. So that's a heart, you know, we're going to the heart of the matter, so to speak. Right.
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So we are human. We go around it. We don't go to it. We go void. We want the stress takes us out of that other place, you know?
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But ultimately you're going to come back to here. You're right. Okay. Why not just go there? Right?
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Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. It's like a process. But like I said, people don't know what they don't know.
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And you are, you know, the methodology, you know, the science of it. And that's why I like doing podcasts, because this right here will. People will realize that there are other modalities that can support what it is that they're doing. And you said, once they know what it is, and they automatically go back to the heart, but once they know is it's their responsibility to do something with what they know, it's kind of like you're not a magician, you know, you can't change it, you know? But that awareness gets into your conscious, and when you're aware of it, you can have a aha moment, and that can.
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That can enable you to pivot or trigger something in you to do something different. Absolutely. That's what I'm getting out of this. Right. Because it has to come from you.
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Because it will stay. Yeah. Okay. Because it's you making those shifts, not me. You know, I mean, interesting, my daughter, um, you know, my kids grew up with all this, so, you know, we'd have people in and out of the house, and so they.
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They're pretty aware, and. But I really let them go. You know, I said, you find your own path. But I thought this was interesting, what my daughter said, you know, I'm working. I'm in nutrition.
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I'm doing healing stuff, but I'm, and I work out and I go to the mountains or I. But nothing seems to be working. I said, right. Why you have to stop. And you've got to go right to the core of what it is.
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You need time alone.
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You need quiet to figure out what is going on. Sifting, taking the noodles away, you know, I don't know. Just clear so you can find that what is happening. Right, right. And isn't it important, though, friend, to, you know, I always say, watch your surroundings, you know, your friends, your sphere of influence, because they can impact your energy.
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You know, they can deplete your energy. And that's why I always say, you know, I always say, you know, you have a personal, I call it a board of directors with my clients, you know, which include accountability partner, a finance person, somebody. Keep it real or whatever. But, well, I sense if there's something there that's like, you know, and I just say, well, that, that's, that's not good for me. That's not working for me.
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And I wanted to say that because I want my listeners to know it's important who you're around, who you spend your time with, because that can. That can either you can make you or break you. Mm hmm. Okay. And that's just practice.
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We were all human. I've certainly had people suck me dry because, oh, there's a healer, you know, I'm taking her. Oh, are you kidding? Oh, how many times? So, yes, you have to have boundaries.
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Okay. Absolutely. And that's what I teach as well. At least share the possibility of you experiencing boundaries, because then you can find yourself quicker. Yeah.
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Okay. You're not out there with that other person's energy trying to figure out their problems because they're depending on you and etc. Etc. You can find yourself. Mm hmm.
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That's like, mm, mm, mm mm. Okay. Gotta go home, right? Yeah. I've heard people say, you have to come home to self.
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And I was like, what does that mean? You know, I. One of my, my therapist used to tell me, you have to come home to self. And I was so perplexed, like, what are you talking about? You know, come home to self.
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And I actually meditated on that for a while. Like what? Like, what does that mean? And even though I kind of know, but I can't articulate it, you know? But I get it.
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Like, come back, come home to self, know thyself and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. Yeah.
00:44:12
Are you on? I'm curious. Are you on any medication? Me? Yeah.
00:44:19
Vitamins. Okay. Vitamins and some hormonal stuff. Yeah. Okay.
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I was just curious because you're a healer, you know, thinking, you know, you don't because of that, then you're not on anything. So that's why I was curious, because a lot of us are taking high blood pressure and. Oh, yeah, I don't have that. I don't have that. But I think the hormones are a huge factor.
00:44:48
Yes, I believe that. And I see a wonderful person. She checks all the time, and, you know, so I think I take a lot of vitamins to support that. Okay. I.
00:45:04
You know, I've been doing this studying for years. I have had some gut issues and found a great product that helps me. You know, it's just. Okay. That just.
00:45:16
I was just. I was curious. Yeah. Well, you know, Fran, this. I have enjoyed this conversation and I could talk all day about, because I'm a very curious individual, and I just wanted you to share any words of.
00:45:37
Instead of calling it nuggets, I want to call yours diamonds. That you can provide for my listeners that will enable them, support them, trigger them to get out of their way and do whatever their dreams or goals are, and something stopping them to help them get out of their way and do what it is that they're being called to do. Well, I wrote this book, emergence, and part of this process of this book, it studies the chakra system and meditation, where the resistance might be. And what I do is I have them have a person hold the book, and in their hands, they're running energy in the book. I mean, it's full of colors and it's beautiful, you know?
00:46:37
Yeah. Quotes and things. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to run some energy in this book. In my book, and then I'm going to open a page. And usually the page is probably the gift that's needed.
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Okay. Okay. So I'm going to open this up.
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Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it. Hmm. That's Rumi. Okay, read that one more time. I will.
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Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it. Mmm. That's good. I like that.
00:47:42
Perfect. So my listeners out there, you've heard that that was what I call a diamond, not a nugget this time. That you need to grasp and understand and be open to what that meant in regards to the barriers that you're having to seek the barriers rather than the love. And I also want you, my listeners, if there is something, and I know it is that was said by Fran and doing this conversation or I say this dialogue that you feel that would be a blessing to someone else, please share it, because this will be on every podcast platform as well as all my social media platforms. And as I say to you all, I never say goodbye.
00:48:37
I always say bye for now. And thank you for listening and enjoy. And God bless. Thank you so much, Fran, for what you thank you.
