Demystifying Parasites and Detoxification: A Deep Dive into Natural Wellness

Prepare to reclaim your health naturally as we welcome renowned natural health and wellness practitioner, Sarah Outlaw. Let's unpack the mysteries of hormone imbalances with Sarah who champions a drug and surgery-free approach to health. She brings a wealth of knowledge on hormonal issues affecting both men and women, emphasizing the need to understand and address the root causes of these imbalances, rather than relying on medications. Sarah enlightens us on the role of herbs and nutrition in helping the body reset naturally, offering a fresh perspective and hope to those battling with hormone irregularities.

We're also turning cholesterol fears on their head as Sarah sheds light on the impact of high cholesterol on women's health. We're unravelling the facts about the benefits of healthy fats, the hidden dangers of statin drugs, and the role of processed foods and sugar in cholesterol elevation. Listen in as Sarah takes us through the critical need to understand the root cause of high cholesterol before resorting to medication.

Finally, we venture into the murky waters of parasites, toxins, and detoxification. Brace yourself as we uncover the surprising ways parasites can impact your health, from affecting your blood sugar and hormones to even harbouring major pathogens like Lyme. We're also diving into how modern life toxins contribute to a weakened body, becoming a playground for parasites. For our male listeners, don't feel left out. Sarah brings valuable insights on men's hormonal health, addressing issues such as low testosterone, prostate problems, and the surprising effects of soy in baby formula. So, buckle up for this health revolution and join us on this enlightening journey into natural health and wellness.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:01

All right. Hello everyone and welcome to a new episode of our podcast. Today I'm very happy to be introducing Sarah Outlaw, who is a practitioner of nutritional health and healing in general. She has several established practice we want to understand and is seeing lots of people helping the world, so eager to hear what she has to share with us. Hi, sarah.

Speaker 2: 0:24

Hi Ryan.

Speaker 1: 0:26

Hey, thank you for being with us today.

Speaker 2: 0:29

Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1: 0:31

Yeah, so tell us a little bit about yourself and your mission right now.

Speaker 2: 0:36

Yeah, so I am a practitioner of natural health, as you mentioned, I am a clinical herbalist and foundational functional nutritionist.

Speaker 2: 0:45

I also specialize in advanced muscle testing, which is my main modality that I practice, along with doing the functional labs and those types of things. I currently have three in-person physical practices one in Des Moines, iowa, one in Cherry Hill, new Jersey, and a satellite office in Mount Pleasant, south Carolina, as well as a worldwide virtual practice, so I am able to do muscle testing virtually, which is pretty cool. So we have quite a few people that aren't able to come into the practice as a CME, but we're still able to help them. We mainly specialize in women's health and we also do families as well, because once mom comes in, then everybody starts to kind of follow her in and we want to take care of everybody. We take care of people's pets as well. So our mission and our purpose is to help people to empower themselves to take control of their own health without the use of unnecessary drugs and unnecessary surgeries, and really be able to care for their families in a way that's more natural, the way we feel by God intended.

Speaker 1: 1:43

Wow, that's awesome. Sounds like a very busy life.

Speaker 2: 1:47

It is very busy.

Speaker 1: 1:48

Yes, that's so incredible. It's so great to hear someone doing so much to effectively help others. So that's awesome, thank you. Yeah, I'd like to talk to you a little bit about women's health today, of course, and hormonal health, and what your take is on. A lot of women come into our practice or I work with. They're having trouble with hormones, they're looking for second opinions, but they don't even think of how to get to what's causing the hormone fluctuations or imbalances. So tell us about that.

Speaker 2: 2:20

Yeah. So everybody always says my hormones, my hormones, all these things, and they have all these symptoms and they don't know what to do about it. And they go to maybe the gynecologist, so they're OBGYN, and they have all these tests and they get put on bioidentical hormones or hormones in general, and they never really know what's caused the problem in the first place. So what we know with the practice that we do is that toxicity creates deficiency, and what that means is if you have toxins in your body of any kind whether it be a immune system imbalance like a parasitic imbalance, viral, fungal, bacterial, or you have toxins like a heavy metal toxicity or chemicals or any of those types of things what will happen is it knocks your hormones off. So one of the main things that contributes to hormone imbalances is a parasitic imbalance. Parasites are very common, unfortunately, and even in our country people think, oh, that's a third world issue. But no, it's not, it is.

Speaker 2: 3:15

I could do a whole podcast just on that, but it is a huge issue. They do disrupt the or turn the dopamine all and all the other hormones in the body. Also, one of the main hormone disruptors now for women is all of the personal care products. Now, we all like to look nice right, so even guys, even to different kinds of products. This is a problem because so many of the products out there are full of endocrine disrupting chemicals that literally change the hormones in your body, and a lot of people still are not aware of this, even though me and myself, even in the last 10, 15, even 20 years, have tried to educate people on this. It's huge. So when someone comes into my practice and says, sarah, my hormones are whacked that's usually what they say my hormones are whacked. What do we do? Well, we test. We want to figure out what's going on. Why are there hormones out of balance?

Speaker 2: 4:06

We don't just start throwing herbs and saying, okay, do the herbs do these things? We want to know why. So we do specific testing to find out those answers and then, after the hormones start to rebalance naturally, then we start to say, okay, what herbs can we do to help your hormones modulate? The really cool thing about using herbs and nutrition to help with hormones is we're not forcing the body to do anything. So we work with what's called the autonomic nervous system of body, which is a system that runs your body does everything automatically that you don't have to think about doing so, making your eyes blank, your heart beat, your lungs breathe. That system controls every single system of your body. So if we nourish that system, it will do things automatically. So if you give certain herbs, like chastry, berry or wild yam, those types of things, it will actually allow your body to go back into balance, which is fantastic. So we do all of those types of things in the practices with women to help them finally get relief, and it's incredible.

Speaker 1: 5:06

Nice Sounds amazing? Yeah, absolutely, and when somebody engages in that path that would allow them to have their body put things right, rather than trying to use a drug to bypass it, so to speak.

Speaker 2: 5:21

Exactly. So what medication does? If you look at that autonomic nervous system, which is made up of the parasympathetic part of the nervous system, which is like your body's brake pedal, your rest digestion heel, and then you have your sympathetic part of your nervous system, which is all the active things your body does, so it's your gas pedal. That system runs on nutrition as its fuel. So if you give that, if you give your body a medication, it bypasses the autonomic nervous system and forces the body to make a change versus nutrition which nourishes the body and allows your body to do itself. So it's a completely wet, complete, different way of looking at the body more holistically and getting the root cause and nourishing, versus saying here, take your medication.

Speaker 2: 6:01

And what happens a lot of times, ryan, is that people, when they go to the doctor, they have doctors have a very kind of narrow-minded perspective on care where they see the symptom as something to get rid of because the patient will be happy and everybody will be happy. So it's like your check engine light is on your car. Someone's having hormonal imbalances, so they have hot flashes, or they're having weight gain or all of those symptoms that they would describe as an imbalance. A doctor might say here's a medication, maybe birth control, maybe something hormone, hormones in general. That's like putting a sticky note over the dashboard of your car on top of that check engine light. It doesn't mean it's going to help what's going on in the car. Your engine still might blow up. So that's the difference. Here is, we're looking at what's going on under the imbalance, under the symptom. Let's fix that.

Speaker 1: 6:52

Nice, I love that, that the analogy that I've never heard it quite put that way and that makes a lot of sense. The nourishing of the parasympathetic, so that you're actually regulating the body by what runs in, or whatever. So, okay, great. Now I've heard a lot about using nutrition, but I'd like to dive into that a little bit more. So when you say using nutrition, are we talking like taking certain vitamins or minerals, or is there a magic combo that tends to work, or how does that happen?

Speaker 2: 7:24

I wish there was a magic combo. So what I like to say is don't blame the thyroid for what the adrenals did and don't blame the adrenals for what the mitochondria did. So what we're looking at with nutritional balancing and herbal balancing with actual supplementation, is we want to work on the mitochondria. Mitochondria is that cellular energy Think of the Krebs cycle and chemistry that we all hated to learn. It's that ATP production, the energy production in the body. It's what fuels the cells and gives your electrical system of your body what it needs to actually be nourished and fed and your cells reproducing really well. If we nourish that part of the body, then it will rebalance the thyroid gland. It will rebalance the adrenals.

Speaker 2: 8:07

The adrenals are in charge of over 50 hormones in your body, so they can get really unbalanced quickly. Those are for those who don't know and a lot of people don't know what they are. There are two little glands that sit right above the kidney, so right on the back of the body, and they are in charge of your fight or flight. They're in charge of your cortisol production. They're in charge of your adrenaline. So think about running from a bear, that type of reaction that you would have. Sometimes they get a little stressed out and they need certain nutrition to get them under control. So nutrition that would nourish the endocrine system, which is all of the glands and organs that are hormone producing or hormone balancing. They love certain nutrients. They love B vitamins. They love whole food B vitamins. So a lot of the B vitamins out there are actually made from coal tar, which is not something you really want to put in your body. So we use whole food B vitamins to help nourish both the cardiovascular system and the adrenals, backing up a little bit.

Speaker 2: 9:02

The heart eats first, so it will take the nutrition it needs and leave the other organs at a deficit. It can give whatever it can give and its body is to distribute. It distributes nutrients to the body but it needs to be fed. The cardiovascular system has a such a huge job. The adrenal glands and the heart share nutrition. They share vitamin C, they share vitamin B, those types of things. So you have to make sure you're getting that nutrition. But toxins block it. So before I supplement, before I'm giving herbs as cheese or I'm giving tinctures or I'm giving capsules or tablets or whole food supplements, I'm looking at giving the body a detox process.

Speaker 2: 9:41

So we use different companies in our practices that are specifically designed for healthcare practitioners. They're considered prescription. A lot of the things that we use initially are carbon based. So think about humic and fulvic acid. Those two things are from the earth and they are the ultimate adaptogen. So you might know adaptogens as ashwagandha or a Tulsi, holy basil or astragalus, those types of herbs that people will use to increase the adaptability of the body's ability to handle stress. Well, we go a step further and we use the humic and fulvic acid type products to feed them mitochondria and also to rebalance all of the endocrine organs, removing toxicity which would create the body to not accept any of that. So it sounds complicated the process, but it's actually very simple. Muscle testing takes the guesswork out of all of it. So I know what to do, want to do it, how much to do it, all of those things. So, yes, we use supplements, we use nutritional products, we use herbal products, we use lifestyle changes kind of all those things together, including dietary, nutritional changes, to nourish and sustain the body.

Speaker 1: 10:50

Nice, okay, great. And so once these fulvic acids, humic acids, are taking some of the toxins out of the body and helping remove things and whatnot, then the nutrition will work more effectively. So that's kind of step two, is that right?

Speaker 2: 11:06

Yes, yes, if somebody has parasitic imbalances, if they have glyphosate, which is roundup in the system, if they have viral imbalances, bacterial imbalances, fungus, women and candida is a huge issue. A lot of us have fungal spores in our bodies blockout nutrition. Once all of those things are detoxed out, then your body can actually absorb the nutrients and the endocrine system can also function. So we see a whole rebalancing of the entire autonomic nervous system, the endocrine system, all of the organs and systems. I don't know if you've ever seen. There's a chart out there. It's called the Harrowers Endocrine System Chart and it's like it looks like a spider web. So it's all of the organs and systems like all in a square and each section is connected to the other section. So I have it up on my wall.

Speaker 2: 11:52

My practice is so people can see and they can see how all of the systems and organs in the endocrine system work together. So when they come in they say, oh, my adrenals, I have adrenal fatigue. And I say, okay, your adrenals are one part, here's the rest of it. Here's your hypothalamus, which is like the mothership of your hormones. Here's the pituitary, which actually produces the thyroid simulating hormone TSH. Here's your thyroid. Here's your pancreas, which is insulin resistance issues. People who have PCOS polycystic ovarian syndrome have a lot of insulin resistance issues. People going through menopause have a lot of issues they don't even know about with insulin. There's so much more to hormones than just my hormones so we have to kind of we educate people on these things. So I've done hormone classes and we educate in the room. We educate when we do telehealth. We want women to know what this is all about so they can understand their bodies better.

Speaker 1: 12:44

Yeah, makes so much sense. It's not. You may have a symptom that you can relate to adrenals, but it may be a lot of other inter connections causing the situation as well.

Speaker 2: 12:55

Yes, definitely.

Speaker 1: 12:58

Great, so okay, makes a lot of sense. I wanted to bring up a topic that is sometimes a hot topic with especially new clients or that are new to the holistic field, and that's the how cholesterol helps with the production of certain hormones and why it's important in the body. Can you kind of tie that in here as well?

Speaker 2: 13:19

Yeah. So we're kind of moving into the direction of talking about the liver here, because the liver has a lot to do with producing cholesterol. What happens a lot and what I'm seeing a lot in practice with high cholesterol and women especially and we do a lot of men, hormonal health too, as well, but women especially is that they'll come to me and say my cholesterol is high and I'll say, well, how high is it? What does it look like? And they're like oh, it's 230 or it's 269. And then I look and I say, okay, well, your LDL is higher than your HDL. So technically we'd want HDL to be higher than the LDL, because HDL is the protective cholesterol, the good cholesterol, and LDL is quote unquote bad right. But why is your cholesterol high? Well, the old cholesterol numbers used to be like 300 was the old range, 300 was normal. Well, now it's like they want it 150 to 200 or under 200.

Speaker 2: 14:13

For me as a practitioner, knowing what I know about healthy fat and the brain and brain health and diabetes and Alzheimer's and dementia, I know once those cholesterol numbers start falling too far below 200, that person's actually in trouble. They're in trouble mentally if you don't have enough cholesterol, because the cholesterol is there for a reason it helps with hormone production, helps with just all sorts of facets of the human body. When that goes too low, the brain is actually at a deficit and people start to have memory loss. So I see more cases of dementia, more cases of Alzheimer's younger and younger now because people are put on statin drugs and they're knocking that cholesterol down. I had a person who cholesterol was 110. That is crazy 110. They couldn't remember where they put their key. That's what's happens. It's basically type three, but diabetes, alzheimer's can set in early, dementia can set in early. So we see these patterns when they introduce statin drugs, that you can see the stats. If you look up graphs, you can see the stats that statin drugs get introduced, cholesterol people starts going down and dementia and Alzheimer's starts going up.

Speaker 2: 15:18

So why is that? Because you're forcing the body to stop producing something that's protective and also cutting out things that are really hormone protective and body protective, which is butter and healthy fats. So we're looking at basically coconut oil, some saturated fats which aren't bad for you in certain quantities, and introducing processed foods which be sugar and carbohydrates, which will actually knock the cholesterol up. So we vilified healthy foods like grass fed meat and grass fed cheese and raw cheese. And I don't do a lot of dairy just because genetically it's not the best for me. But I know that raw milk is better for you than pasteurized milk. If we eat well and eat what we're meant to eat, like from the earth, versus processed foods, sugar, dairy then your cholesterol is going to be normalized. It's the sugar in the carbs that send it up, it's not your eggs in the morning, it's not your dietary.

Speaker 2: 16:11

Cholesterol does not equal high cholesterol in the body. That is a myth. So I've done classes on the cholesterol myth. I've talked to people about hormone health. We see people on statins or hormones go wacky. So you, a woman a woman starts taking statin drug all of a sudden. Now the hormones are out of balance. Why? Because they need that. We. There's a term that is not well accepted anywhere really, but we it's called dirty estrogen. So dirty estrogen is something that we use kind of like a tongue in cheek term when the body isn't detoxing estrogen out of the liver. So when that happens, things get clogged up, so cholesterol is stuck there. If thyroid is off balance, cholesterol can be high. A pancreas is out of balance, cholesterol can be high. So you have all of these different factors that can contribute to estrogen being too high in the body and cholesterol being too high in the body. But then again we ask that question why?

Speaker 1: 17:05

Okay, it makes sense. Yeah, so obviously it's not just cholesterol is bad. Therefore, you should always go on statins if you're above X number, right and no question for you. So you mentioned the numbers changing on the cholesterol, like moving down, do you? I've asked before. I've gotten various answers, but I'm always interested. Do you have an explanation as to why that might have been done?

Speaker 2: 17:32

Because pharmaceutical, pharmaceutical reasons, it's all about the money. So bread and butter for a lot of the cardiologists is automatically putting people they cut. You come into the office and your cholesterol is high and your blood pressure is high. There's two medications right there that you're going to put up people on for life and what they tell people is this is lifelong, we're going to have on blood pressure meds and you're going to be in cholesterol meds, so you can't do that. I mean, normally people's cholesterol is not going to be around 300 or even 280 or whatever it's just kind of naturally balances out.

Speaker 2: 18:06

Usually between 220 and 260 is kind of where people tend to fall. So let's get people down, so it's farther, and tell them their cholesterol is high so we have something to give them. But it's caused so many problems. I've had to have people come in. Muscle wasting is huge. So I've had people coming in having to recover from satin drugs.

Speaker 2: 18:24

One of the most famous cardiologists and a colleague of mine, dr Jack Wolfson he is a pretty famous cardiologist. You probably have heard of him. He, from the stage at the cell core conference last year and the year before it, literally said if your doctor puts you on satin drugs, take yourself off and find another doctor. It's just a no brainer. You do not need them for it's not going to, it's not increasing your heart risk. If your cholesterol is higher, you need to find out why your body is over producing it. There's something going on. There's endothelial cell damage in the body, which is like the cells inside the body that contribute to all the health of your liver, your cardiovascular, skeletal systems, all of those things. You have to find a practitioner who can help you figure out why, if you're not able to do it yourself, which I couldn't do it before. I was a practitioner. I couldn't figure out why I was sick the way I was sick. I was pretty sick. I couldn't figure it out myself. I knew a lot of things. I was being Dr Google. I needed help. So I definitely suggest find somebody who can help you navigate through the myths, the truths, find out why your labs look the way they do.

Speaker 2: 19:27

I love looking at labs. It's part of my practice. It's a huge part of my practice. So we run a panel that's 21 different panels plus hormones and we look at that in the functional ranges and I sit down with a patient and we take at least a half an hour to go over. The report that we get is 38 to 58 pages of just rationale for what that blood looks like. What is your body doing? What's your liver doing? What's your kidneys doing? What's your cholesterol look like? What's your blood sugar look like? Blood sugar high usually means your cholesterol is high. Why what's your pancreas doing? So we can look at all of those numbers and then put together muscle testing and blood work. Together is a magic combination. I think I'm one of the only practitioners, or one of the first practitioners to actually do that, where we've actually combined the two together, where we're doing labs plus muscle testing together, marrying the two and then comparing and contrasting the results, and it's been really amazing the last few years looking at that.

Speaker 1: 20:26

Wow, well, yeah, sounds amazing. Sounds like that would give you all the information you could possibly need for creating the Dimensioned, earlier the magic formula. Well, that's probably the underlying pinnings of the magic formula.

Speaker 2: 20:40

Yeah, sure.

Speaker 1: 20:41

Okay, yeah, okay, great now. So we have hormone balance going out, people getting on statins one trend that I've noticed is that people younger and younger coming in on statin drugs and and younger and younger having all the complications you mentioned, but also having hormonal imbalances that then lead to getting on to Some sort of hormonal supplement or drug or whatever. Is that a trend you've you've seen as well?

Speaker 2: 21:12

Yes, we're seeing a lot of girls going through early puberty, some as young. They start with breast buds, even as early as six years old, eight years old. I see children being put on, girls being put on birth control at 10 or 11 years old Because they're getting their periods earlier and earlier. So the oncologist, obgyn, will say let's put her on birth control because she's having really heavy periods at age 11. I have a girl recently. She she's 17 now but at age 11 they put her on the depot shot. 11 years old it's.

Speaker 2: 21:45

I'm sitting here going oh my god, there were so many things that we could have done To prevent that. And we know I don't know if you're familiar with dr Jolene Brighton. She's amazing. She's like the birth control guru. She talks about birth control issues and, yeah, I refer people to her a lot as far as looking at her information on her website because she lays out the dangers of birth control and how hormonal Stoppage like stopping things like that and not getting a period for six months, eight months a year all those things is detrimental. I do not recommend hormonal birth control to my patients. I Teach them other ways of doing that because we are having so much fertility issues. One of my specialties is fertility in my clinics and we do help moms to when they're having trouble with fertility, to be able to get pregnant. We have so many Nutritional babies who've been born in our practice with. Our practice is help, but we see them having to recover from all of those things.

Speaker 2: 22:41

And then we are also seeing a lot of girls, earlier and earlier, wearing makeup. Social media is great and it's not great. Younger and younger kids are on tiktok. They're on Instagram, not really Facebook. Is Facebook is her us old folks, right, but I'll chat and they want to look like the filters. Look. So you got the Kardashians, who are the role models for our kids, right. Makeup, beauty care products, hair care products, hair dyes Girls are getting inundated with these chemicals for in their growing bodies can't handle it. So we're seeing these hormone disruptions that are out of control early puberty, like I mentioned, infertility, hormone imbalances, periods that are so bad that these girls can't get out of bed. We have to intervene. Somebody has to help these girls.

Speaker 1: 23:29

Yeah, absolutely. And so you mentioned the, the makeup earlier and whatnot. Obviously that would be possibly a major contributor to these hormonal imbalances at such a young age.

Speaker 2: 23:41

Right. Yes, there's phthalates in those, there's parabens in those. There are things that are just as bad as parabens, that are replacing Parabens because everybody said knows that parabens are bad and so you have all of these endocrine disrupting chemicals in these things. There are a better option. Part of things that we do in our practice is we teach moms how to use better.

Speaker 2: 24:00

Because I like makeup, I like I get my nails done, I get manicure. There's things that I do for myself that I know that I'm doing safely and healthfully, by using products that don't use those toxins, so that you can still look nice and still wear makeup and still do your hair and use products and self-tanner, but you don't have to use the toxic stuff. So, helping moms find companies that they can utilize for their children there's plenty of makeup that they can use for their kids lotions lotions are huge. The kids like to. Girls like to slap themselves, like the smell. Good bathroom body works is not on our vocabulary in my home. Do not bring that stuff in my house. It's the most toxic stuff ever. But you have to educate. If you're not educating people on these things, they just don't know how. How would they?

Speaker 1: 24:46

Right, right, yeah, no, mainstream media is definitely not teaching them. Yeah, all right, wow, really. You know it's very shocking and almost hard to to look at, but at the same time, it's great that there's there are options out there and you know, the social media aspect of being able to share that with lots of people via that avenue has its benefits as well. Or like we're doing on a little podcast episode that people are gonna listen to. So Good information. Now I wanted to ask you a little bit. It just came to mind as we were talking. So we have this toxicity issue and then we have parasites, and these are two things that are not as as common in the general Language of health and wellness, at least outside of our world, would you say. It's kind of a dual Situation. Or do the toxins come first and then parasite later, or do they feed off of each other? How does that work?

Speaker 2: 25:46

Yeah, it's kind of like a chicken and an egg situation. So what I usually find is there's a toxicity that weakens the body. So either they've been exposed to a pesticide by eating certain foods, or glyphosate from somebody spraying the yard I can't believe how many people still spray their yards with life, with Roundup it's crazy. All sorts of toxins that were exposed to every day, like we said, the makeup, those types of things. So the toxicity is going to weaken the body, weaken the mitochondria, so at a cellular level the body can't heal as well, it can't protect itself as well, so the autonomic nervous system is at a deficit. Then parasites are opportunistic. So then maybe you eat some organic lettuce that maybe wasn't washed properly and organic lettuce and have pesticides, so there could be parasite eggs on the lettuce.

Speaker 2: 26:28

A lot of our food comes from Mexico, and Mexico is known for parasites. I have quite a few Mexican patients and they will tell me my mom used to give us parasite protocols all the time because we knew parasites were a thing. So it's something that other countries knew about and they take care of. But we are too good for parasites here, so we don't have those, but we get our food from other countries. So what's going to happen? Right? Sushi, huge source of parasites. There's so many different sources of parasites.

Speaker 2: 26:55

What I always find is that parasites are the bringers in of a lot of other things, so the toxins usually come first. Body's weakened. Parasites are opportunistic. You have organs that are a little bit stressed out. Parasites come in. Their job is to be cleanup crew. So say you have, your pancreas is a little stressed out, for some reason it's leaking some proteins. Parasites say, oh, I'm going to eat those proteins, so let's go ahead and eat those proteins. That's our job. Got to be cleanup crew. They then get stuck in the pancreas. They get stuck in the pancreas and they can't get out. Then blood sugar starts to go off and then hormone starts to go off and then diabetes starts. So one of the main causes of diabetes that we see are parasites that actually eat the tail and the head of the pancreas. They actually start feeding on the organ, putting holes in the organ. They contribute to the gut being leaky, impermeable gut Right.

Speaker 2: 27:45

You see all of these things I would love to talk a little bit about, if we can. Why parasites aren't found by medical doctors. Can I talk about that? It's really interesting because a lot of times even stool testing, because people will think they have parasites. Maybe they saw them, they won't go into the bathroom and they. We have a lot of poop talk in our practice because we have to talk about digestion a lot. So it's one of those things that can't be taboo. You guys talk about it.

Speaker 1: 28:09

Right.

Speaker 2: 28:10

People will say well, I got tested and I don't have parasites, but we find them. The muscle test finds them, blood work. You can find them If you look on your labs. When you take a CBC and chem panel differential and look at basophils, acinophils, and then when you're looking at neutrophils and lymphocytes and monocytes. There's two things there that are basophils and acinophils. If they're different than they should be, number wise, that means you could possibly have parasites. They can show up in blood work. Why it doesn't show up in your regular testing is that parasites are like.

Speaker 2: 28:42

Think of a bowl of Skittles. You've got all the colors of the rainbow in your bowl of Skittles. So, say the green Skittles, I take them all out of the bowl and I put them in one corner of the bowl. So the bowl still has the green Skittles in it. But when I put my hand into grab the Skittles, I have no green Skittles in my hand. Okay, they're not there. Does it mean they're not in the bowl? No, they're over here, so I couldn't reach them.

Speaker 2: 29:05

So when you have a stool test, you're only taking the stool from that first end of the colon. Well, the parasites aren't going to be sitting there. Usually they're all going to be somewhere else. They're way up in the intestinal system, maybe they're in the brain, maybe they're in the sinus cavity, maybe they're in the liver. There's liver flukes, there's lung flukes. There's all different types of parasite that could be affecting you negatively that may never, ever ever show up in a stool test because of that Skittle analogy, because they're just not right there at the surface. So nine times out of 10, testing of any kind is going to. Besides, muscle testing is going to miss the parasites.

Speaker 2: 29:42

Parasites also bring in major pathogens like Lyme. So I'm a Lyme specialist as well. Lyme disease is what brought me to becoming a practitioner, because I had it for over 25 years. Chronic Lyme. I suffered for a long time illness-wise, my illnesses are what brought me to what I do basically, and we know for a fact that most of the people who have Lyme in their systems have never remembered being bitten by a tick.

Speaker 2: 30:06

Well, lyme comes in from different places. It can come from getting scratched by a stick that was peed on by an animal that was infected with Lyme. It can come from gnats, mosquitoes, lice, any type of bug bite of any kind. It's also sexually transmitted. It can cross the blood brain barrier.

Speaker 2: 30:22

There's so many things for Lyme, but one of the main things that Lyme comes from is parasites. Say, a parasite bites your dog, it can get into your dog. Your dog licks you, you get parasites from your dog licking you and now you have a parasite that has Lyme in it, because lots of animals already have Lyme. So then the Lyme is now in you. Lyme is very ubiquitous to the population. A lot of people have it in their systems. They may not have full-blown Lyme disease, because that's a little bit more, but they might have Lyme bacteria or Bartonella or Babesia or Ehrlichia, which are Lyme co-infections contributed to by parasitic infection. So we have to kind of figure out what's there, how it got there and take care of it. So it's a huge kind of tangled web of issues that parasites can contribute to and the toxins start there.

Speaker 1: 31:08

Right. Well, it starts with a toxins Right which we're surrounded by in the modern world.

Speaker 2: 31:15

Yeah, I mean I'm sitting on a chair that's probably got from Abahaidin and my walls were painted with paint and my light is emitting phosphorus and my computer is made with everything. I mean you can't get away from it. You literally can't. My clothes are not organic cotton, so there's something in them, I'm sure. Right.

Speaker 1: 31:31

Right, yeah, yeah. And that kind of goes back to some people say you just need to eat well, but it seems like the more I work with people and learn from other practitioners and whatnot, it's almost like you have to be on a proactive detox type of ants, with your own health and others because of the amount of toxins we're exposed to. What do you think about that?

Speaker 2: 31:56

Yeah, I mean. Detox is a dirty word, though. It's like the D word, it's like don't talk to me about detox, because your body should be doing it. Yes, our body should be doing it. Our liver should be able to get through all the phases of detox and take care of your system right. But why can't they?

Speaker 2: 32:10

Well, our food system is so contaminated and the soils are so depleted. If you're not looking at biodynamic farming or agricultural, where they're doing organic, sustainable practices, the things that are grown there's not enough nitrogen in the soil. Copper is almost completely depleted in the soil. A lot of people are deficient in copper, which is an essential trace mineral, trace nutrients. We're almost all deficient in magnesium. We don't have the right amounts of calcium in our bodies.

Speaker 2: 32:37

When I do the testing that I do, the lab testing it shows ink levels, b, vitamin D levels, vitamins, minerals and electrolytes are always off. Why, a lot of my patients come in. They already eat. Well. How come they're not healthy? Why are their? Why are the labs look so bad? Why are they coming up so nutritional and deficient? Well, there's nothing we can really do about that food wise, except do our best and eat whole food healthy, because unless you're growing your food yourself and you know how to balance your soil. It's just not going to happen anymore. It's just so depleted. So we have to be more proactive in figuring out how can we add to our nutrition.

Speaker 2: 33:13

There are some things that you might always need to be on. So we do DNA. We do it's called Nutrogenomics DNA testing. It's a nutritional based DNA testing that we also utilize in practice to see what your overall deficiencies are. It tells you if you're a hunter-gatherer genetically, if you are a farmer, like eating type genetically. And it's interesting because I'm in Iowa now and looking at people's genetics. I am from New Jersey, my family is from Italy and I am more of a hunter-gatherer, but every single person that I've tested in Iowa comes up as farmer. Well, why? Well, because it's the Midwest and it's all farming, so they live off the land, it's all farming, agriculture, but they're deficient. Why? Because the soil's depleted.

Speaker 2: 33:58

So we're seeing this huge issue as an ongoing issue that we have to give supplements. So some people say there's no such thing as deaning detox. Your body can do it yourself and then you don't ever need supplements because you get it from your food. Well, both of those statements are completely false. Maybe that was okay 60, 70, 80, 100 years ago, but it's not okay now because things have changed. You have to supplement. Supplement is completely necessary because you have to reestablish a baseline, reestablish a homeostasis in the body, rebalance nutrition because we're depleted. You drink a can of soda. You've just completely wiped out a lot of different things. You take one round of antibiotics. You don't have the proper gut flora for maybe a year. So we're doing things on a daily basis. Metformin depletes nutrition, satin drugs knock out nutrition. So you have to look at all the nutritional deficiencies even the drugs you're taking are doing.

Speaker 1: 34:48

Wow, yeah, no, it's a lot and it can be overwhelming, I think, and sometimes people are like, well, it's too much, I'm just going to do what I can. That I already do. I'm not doing horribly, but it almost feels like there's such a higher level of health for the society as a whole that has been lost sight of and that has to be reestablished in each individual before they sometimes reach for a lot of these methods. At least that's something I've noticed at times. But, okay, great. Now I wanted to ask you you mentioned a couple of times that you also work on men's hormones, and we don't do a lot of that here, honestly. But I was wondering what things do you work on with men and whatnot? Both my personal curiosity and, just as since you brought it up, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 35:41

So younger and younger we're finding that prostate. There's prostate issues with men. So men are having huge issues with their prostates younger and younger, like 20s, 30s, early 40s and that can contribute to a lot of hormone imbalances. We also see a lot of low testosterone, so a lot of low T cases, and so there are a lot of things that we can do in regards to men's health by removing the toxins, removing the immune system challenges first, and then rebalancing and being able to raise up the testosterone naturally, without doing any type of hormone replacements for them as well. We can help men just like we can help women.

Speaker 2: 36:12

We do, like I said, we do a lot of fertility cases. So a lot of times with my, fertility cases actually require both partners. So, because it's not just her fault that she's not getting pregnant, there's a lot going on with him as well as far as hormone imbalances and viral issues, parasitic issues that are contributing to either not being able to sustain a pregnancy, with lots of miscarriages, or not being able to get pregnant in the first place, with low sperm counts, and those types of things. So we help with all of that very naturally. So we change nutrition, we get rid of toxins. We get rid of immune system challenges, and then there's lots of amazing herbal therapies for men in getting that handled, and then also things like nitric oxide and we use something called cardiomiracle which is amazing for oxygenating cardiovascular health. We do a lot of rock-tidal dysfunction work where that's an issue as well, and that's a lot of cardiovascular issues, circulatory, so you name it for men. We have helped in all those situations, even with prostate cancers.

Speaker 1: 37:13

Wow, wow, yeah. Yeah, it's just something that we haven't delved into, but there's definitely a lot of people dealing with that type of thing out there. I saw something on speaking of social media a few weeks ago and I don't know how valid it is. You always take these things with a grain of salt. It said something about the testosterone level of the 40-year-old. Like in present time 40-year-old male was similar to the testosterone level of a 60 or 70-year-old male, like 50 years ago, or something. Is that something you can speak to?

Speaker 2: 37:50

Yeah, and not to be controversial or offensive, but it's the soy boys. Soy has literally ruined men and their testosterone.

Speaker 2: 38:01

So, what happened is the introduction of soy formula. A lot of men or boys, babies, were fed soy formula and it raised the estrogen. It's very estrogenic. Estrogen is higher, testosterone is low. So we're seeing literal changes in men, from boys on, in physical structure, testosterone levels, hormone levels, how they look, how they talk, how they act, very feminizing, because the more soy that you put in your body when you're developing, the more your hormones are going to be off. So that is one of the major contributing factors to this testosterone issue being really, really low.

Speaker 1: 38:41

Yeah, no, that makes sense. We recommend that with our clients who come in who are women, who are in any sort of hormonal imbalance. We're always like, okay, you have any soy in your diet, good, it's gone. But yeah, I could see that relating to men as well, of course. So let me ask you this this is a question I've had, because we see this, we see people come off soy and things balance better. They respond more to the herbs and the supplements and everything. There's other things they need to come off of as well, of course, and all the toxicity. So we have our segment of the world here, the Americas or whatever you want to say, but there's a whole segment, from what I understand, in the China Asia area that actually has lived off of soy or soy type products for centuries unless that's propaganda, but that's what I understand. Do you have any? Can you speak to or clarify what the discrepancy is, why we react so badly to it? And then there's a population that seems to do okay with it.

Speaker 2: 39:46

Yeah, so for my understanding is that in Asia they utilize a lot of fermented soy, so they don't do a lot. They don't eat a ton of just straight up tofu. They use most tempeh and fermented soy sauce and the fermentation process doesn't allow for that much estrogen so it actually changes it. It takes it out more. So if you eat more fermented. So I actually do recommend fermented soy for some things for health reasons, non-gmo, obviously, because genetically modified soy is one of the highest genetic modifications in the highest glyphosate crop. So you have to watch what you're doing. But they don't eat a ton of tofu. So if you look at traditional Asian meals, it's not full of tofu and fermented soy. Now they do edamame, so there's going to be some in that, but it's not as high as you would think. In Asian countries. It's more of the fermentation.

Speaker 1: 40:40

Okay, yeah, that makes sense, because you work with clients and occasionally get thrown questions you don't quite know how to answer, and then you're like, okay, well, I'll figure that out and tell them later.

Speaker 2: 40:50

Yeah, but okay cool.

Speaker 1: 40:52

Thank you for that Great. So we cover a lot about hormones and how you deal with those things Related to all these different topics. Is there something? Because there's a lot of information, it can be overwhelming Somebody who's new to this. Where would you say they should start if they're experiencing, maybe, some body issues that haven't been able to be explained by their doctor, or whatever? What's a good place for someone to start producing themselves to these concepts?

Speaker 2: 41:21

Yeah, I mean I always recommend getting professional help, find a muscle testing practitioner, an advanced practitioner, somewhere in the country. There's a lot of us around and that is kind of the first step because we all educate most of us well I wouldn't say all those those are really good at educating patients as well. And then, following some of us on social media there's we give a lot of information for free on social media. As far as accurate information, a lot of us do workshops that you can watch publicly. So I know I've done tons and hundreds of them, so they're always in my video archives of Facebook page and there are reputable MDs and DOs out there who we are colleagues with that give information. Like I said, like Dr Jolene Brighton and Dr Wolfson, and there are a lot of people out there that you can get accurate information from.

Speaker 1: 42:10

Yeah, yeah. So it seems like you just have to be open to the idea that if your body is not being fixed by what's supposed to doctor conventional type situation, then there might be other information, and just be open to going and working with somebody who has that information in, or educating yourself on it as well.

Speaker 2: 42:30

Yeah, Having an open mind and also realizing that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So if you are having health issues continually, year after year after year, and you're still doing the same things to fix it, it might be time to take a step back and say listen, I'm worth more than this. I can't fill from an empty cup and I need to figure something out the different outs. You have to be able to open your mind, because a lot of the alternative practices that we do, and a lot of us as practitioners do, are not considered mainstream and they might seem a little bit wackier, strange, but they work. And you have to be able to be willing to have that open mindness to say, okay, nothing I'm doing is working. This is my last hope. I'm sick. Can you please just help me figure this out? So that's what we're all here for. We just want to help you determine what's going on and just help you find a better way.

Speaker 1: 43:26

Awesome, I love that. Okay, great. So thank you so much for all this amazing information. I know there's probably we've just scratched the surface of some of the information that you could provide, but I think we've got a good package here for people to listen to in this episode, so I'm excited to get that out to everybody. Now, if somebody wants to get a hold of you or work with you directly, I know you have your three physical practices brick and mortar but then you also do worldwide virtual practices how does somebody get a hold of you or your practice?

Speaker 2: 43:57

Yeah, the best way to find us is just go to our website and there's contact forms on there. So wwwnhiccenterscom is our website address and you can see what we do, kind of what we're about, and then also contact us through there.

Speaker 1: 44:13

Perfect, simple enough. Okay, great, and is there anything else you wanted to mention before we wrap things up here?

Speaker 2: 44:20

Just that. Like I said before, you're worth you, watching, listening. You're worth more than what your health is telling you and you're not your diagnosis. So take a minute, do a self evaluation. How are you feeling? Do you feel amazing? If you don't feel amazing, you should. So find a way to live the life you're meant to live. We're not meant to survive, we're meant to thrive. So that is my goal for everybody out there listening is that you kind of have an open mind and that you move forward into that path of healing and find a way to thrive.

Speaker 1: 44:57

Amazing. There we go. I love it. Okay, great. So thank you so much for being on today, sarah, we'll get this right out, and all the information we went over on contact data will be in the show notes as well. Thanks again, sarah, and well, we'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 2: 45:12

Thanks, Ryan.