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Transcript

Discussing Clothes and Bodysuits

Speaker 1 0:00

Welcome to Oversharing with Overvies. I'm Joe.

Speaker 2 0:02

And I'm Matt.

Speaker 1 0:03

And each week you can tune in to hear us respond to your voice mails, go in depth on our lives as content creators and hopefully leave you feeling even better than we found you.

Speaker 2 0:10

With that being said, let's get to oversharing.

Speaker 1 0:13

I'm wearing a shrug.

Speaker 2 0:14

Shrug life.

Speaker 1 0:15

I know I that made me laugh.

Speaker 2 0:17

That was unintentional.

Speaker 1 0:19

I love it. It makes me really really happy. Looks good I feel very cute, I feel very ballerina core.

Speaker 2 0:25

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 0:25

I want more colors.

Speaker 2 0:27

Yeah.

Speaker 1 0:27

But well, the shrugs themselves aren't that expensive, but I want the matching fits. I really Sure, okay. So backstory to anybody watching If you've watched my TikTok at all, you've seen me in these outfits. But I went on that girl's trip a couple weeks ago and on that trip was Chloe Bounds. If you've never seen her content or her husband Addison's content, they are wonderful both of them. Chloe always reps this brand called Vitality out of Colorado and it is a fitness brand, and I ordered a cart full of things. Okay, I got one full outfit and a pair of leggings. I wanted to get a jacket and a bra too, but they were both out of stock by the time my I did it during a launch. Anyway, I'm going on too much about this. I am obsessed. I really want to try their bodysuit, like the all-one piece. But the bodysuits I have right now I don't wear that often because I feel like they don't have much coverage through the core and I like to have some Core coverage.

Speaker 1 1:33

Yeah, after having a couple kids. I don't even know if that's it, if it's the having the kids or what it is, but I like to have some compression at my core, but I don't know that there's don't just the few that I own. I have a couple from Girlfriend Collective that I really like to wear when I'm pregnant, Like I wore them with my pregnancy with Rory a ton.

Speaker 2 1:53

Why'd you wear them?

Speaker 1 1:55

Because they're very comfortable. Got it? Yeah, they're very comfortable and I like the way they look. But when I wear them not pregnant I feel like I'm extra aware of how it fits my middle.

Speaker 2 2:09

Okay, too much compression, not enough.

Speaker 1 2:11

Not enough.

Speaker 2 2:13

Got it.

Speaker 1 2:14

Like there's really none.

Speaker 2 2:15

Okay, just shapes with you.

Speaker 3 2:18

Yeah, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 2:21

I mean, this is not something I can actually even really relate to, but you can try it on and you'll know what I mean. Okay, yeah, we're roughly like we can generally wear the same thing. Your waist is a lot smaller than mine.

Speaker 1 2:32

Yeah, but other than that, I was able to wear this when I was pregnant, so it should be fine Okay.

Speaker 2 2:36

Cool. Well, we'll see. Maybe the next podcast I'm doing.

Speaker 1 2:40

It'll look like you're in a wrestling uniform.

Speaker 2 2:42

Well, from the waist down you can't see me anyway.

Speaker 1 2:44

Yeah, well then, the thing I was going to say I'm concerned about is your torso.

Speaker 2 2:49

Well, I didn't know if I was wearing the tops.

Speaker 1 2:53

No, it's one piece. Oh, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 2:56

Oh, okay, no, I know what you're talking about now. Yeah, sorry, I was. I mean, clearly I've been paying close attention.

Speaker 1 3:01

I like I want to get one of the onesies from Vitality yeah, like one of the long ones, because a couple well, chloe had one while we were there, and then Annalie, who is also on the trip, if you don't follow her, annalie Grace, 15, who's absolutely amazing. She got one of the onesies from the launch, like ordered it, and she sent us a picture of it, like on her, and she looked insane and it could just be that she's really hot, like you know what I mean. That's the problem I always run into. I'm like, are these people just really hot, or are the clothes really good and they're hot?

Speaker 2 3:34

I mean, that's the magic of influencing sometimes. Sometimes it's just really hot people.

Speaker 1 3:37

And that's why I was worried because, like Chloe's obviously really hot and has an absolute bang and bod, like she looks incredible. Obviously she started out doing fitness and all that and so I was nervous getting this stuff in. I was like, am I going to put this on and be like, oh, I don't actually like it that much. I was hoping I would look like I went to the gym, but I don't. I really like it and I'm very happy, ok, anyway, that's all. Sorry that I went on for 100 years about that.

Podcast Rebrand and Future Plans Discussion

Speaker 2 4:05

No, I think that's the perfect intro. That's very on brand for us. Just whatever strikes your mind as the camera turns on Big facts, big facts. It's good. So, while we're back, this week took a slight hiatus.

Speaker 1 4:21

An unexpected hiatus An unplanned hiatus.

Speaker 2 4:24

Yeah, we didn't have a lot of time to record. Last week we had one recording window and on the day we had our recording window.

Speaker 1 4:32

Actually, that's not true.

Speaker 2 4:33

OK.

Speaker 1 4:33

We had two recording windows.

Speaker 2 4:36

OK.

Speaker 1 4:37

And I'd just like it to be known that glass got delivered unexpectedly during one of them.

Speaker 2 4:41

Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about that. Ok, you're right. We had two recording windows, which is not very many no, not when you have the chaos of kids and everything and anyway. So the recording window we were going to use.

Speaker 1 4:56

We started. Yeah, we tried we tried.

Speaker 2 4:59

I had a beautiful intro.

Speaker 1 4:59

I don't remember what I talked about, but I was on, I was nailing it. You guys would have been so entertained last week.

Speaker 2 5:05

Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, if you just wanted to hear her talk, it would have been the podcast for you, because I had a mental health breakdown. I think was not ideal, wasn't able to talk a whole lot. You were like talking, talking, talking. Throw to Matt and I was like I.

Speaker 1 5:27

I was chit chatting and then I asked Matt to update you guys. I was like, so what do you have to say this week? And it was literally like you know what. It reminded me of what when you proposed to me. You know how I rebooted.

Speaker 2 5:40

Uh-huh, ok, you, I was like.

Speaker 1 5:42

No, no, no, OK, not when you not. Ok, you're right, I understand where you got that confused Not how you were when you proposed, how I was when you proposed, when my whole brain rebooted and you weren't sure if there was anybody behind my eyes. Yeah, except for I was like happy reboot, you were like panic reboot.

Speaker 2 6:01

Yes, so yeah. No, it was a big therapy day so I hadn't quite processed everything through the day, so when I sat down in front of a microphone and tried to talk, it didn't work so good.

Speaker 1 6:14

And I was honestly really caught off guard because I didn't know it had been such a big therapy day for you.

Speaker 2 6:20

Yeah Well, I didn't really know either till I tried to talk about whatever and I was like, oh no, I can't, I can't do it. So you know, had to take a slight mental breakdown, and then the next day was good, every day is a new day. That's kind of how my brain works, but that day wasn't my day.

Speaker 1 6:40

But we're back, and better than ever, and we will not be missing any more days until we do our slight rebrand, our mini rebrand.

Speaker 2 6:49

Our mini rebrand. Yeah Sure.

Speaker 1 6:51

We asked you guys your feedback on Instagram stories. If you don't follow us over on Oversharing's Instagram, definitely go do that. My goal is to be sharing more clips and things like that from the episodes in the coming months and I ask a lot of questions on stories for feedback and I also let you guys know if, for some reason, an episode won't be going up or if something's going to be late or if we're having technical difficulties. That's how we communicate all of that to you all. And I asked you guys Matt and I have been for the last I would say almost a year now talking about doing a rebrand of the podcast. We've talked about renaming it. We've talked about kind of just redoing all of the forward facing pieces of the podcast. Yeah, and I brought that to y'all's attention for the first time on the stories last week and everybody went absolutely not.

Speaker 1 7:43

You guys like the name Oversharing and so the feedback was abundant and very clear and very unanimous. So we are not going to change the name. Name's going to stay the same. We probably still are going to work on a new cover and kind of a refresh on everything intro. I think it's going to stay the same, but I think we're going to kind of work in some new segments. Bad dad, mean mom, is going to be back on a weekly basis because that was something that you guys communicated. You really wanted to see more of Greg's Reads. The Week is not going anywhere, but we are going to pull it back to three articles a week because everybody told me that if we get rid of Greg's Reads that they would just stop listening to the podcast. But then there were like two people who relentlessly DM'd me and were like Greg's Reads the Week gives me so much anxiety.

Speaker 2 8:37

It tanks my day. You're like I get it sometimes.

Speaker 1 8:41

Yeah, they were like. We love Greg. Greg stresses us out.

Speaker 2 8:46

Which is kind of the bit. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 8:48

So we're going to do three articles a week from Greg and we'll try to keep those as low anxiety as possible.

Speaker 2 8:55

No, I think we got to keep them on brand. I think anxiety is kind of part of it.

Speaker 1 8:58

It is, it is, I agree. And then we will be continuing Word of the Week, and then you guys also had some new segments that you were hoping to see us work in and we let you know that we also are going to be having guests on the podcast, and I actually was really surprised to hear the feedback on guests on the podcast was 50-50.

Speaker 2 9:15

Really.

Speaker 1 9:16

Yeah, people are very concerned about us having guests on the podcast. Why is that? Because apparently they don't like. They feel like people who interview, like podcasts that turn into interview podcasts, end up not having the same like relaxed flow, and it not being the same kind of vibe Got it.

Speaker 2 9:34

Oh, I can see that. I can definitely see that If your whole thing is interviews one, that means you got to line up a lot of interviews which we're not going to be able to pull off. So don't worry about that. We can actually line up like 35 interviews.

Speaker 1 9:47

I hate when that tells me I can't do something. And you know, what else I hate is when he does it publicly. And so now in my brain, all I want to do is prove to you, because that's crazy.

Speaker 2 9:55

We're going to end up doing two episodes a week. One's going to be interviews, one's just going to be us.

Speaker 1 9:59

No, we're not, no, but we're not doing a ton of it.

Speaker 2 10:02

You can't do it, no.

Speaker 1 10:03

Like why are you saying that? No, I was just saying you could just say we're not going to do that.

Speaker 3 10:08

Yeah.

Speaker 2 10:10

Oh, we're not.

Speaker 1 10:11

Instead of we can't, we can't, yeah Got it Got, it Got it. That was never the goal.

Speaker 2 10:17

No, no, that was not the goal. No, I can definitely see that, though, that if you do a lot of interviews, that it can kind of just become formulaic in terms of like you're talking to other people and just aggregating their stories and their conversations Right, but I think the goal would be that we just have conversations with people we like 100% Keep it as conversational as possible. I don't know that we're great interviewers anyway.

Speaker 1 10:41

Well, we want to have content creator friends on, so we want to have friends that do what we do, but we also would like to have some people from our real life in and on the podcast, like JC and my parents.

Speaker 1 10:52

That could be interesting Some of the people that you guys have asked to meet on the mic instead of just through our stories. Yeah, and so a blend of that, and I think that when we have guests on the podcast, the goal is still to have it be conversational, fun and really get into some of the conversations that maybe you don't get to hear. Content creators that you follow have.

Speaker 2 11:15

Because there's a lot of it that we just. That doesn't make a lot of sense unless you can have more context, and so it's. It's more about filling that out. But yeah, again, I don't know that we have a traditional interview style anyway, so it's going to probably be more conversational, just in general, for sure.

Speaker 1 11:32

But anyway, I just wanted to give a little bit of that information on the podcast also because I know I put it on stories and I had a couple of people DM me this week that clearly don't follow the podcast Instagram that we're like no episode, no episode. And there also hasn't been episodes in the middle ground because Caroline's been traveling and yeah, anyway.

Speaker 2 11:55

Yeah, I mean she's had a lot with her product launch.

Speaker 1 11:58

I'm telling you, man, that's been she's going a million miles an hour. I'm really proud of her and I, I, wow.

Speaker 2 12:04

Yeah.

Speaker 1 12:05

It's, it's impressive, it really is impressive. And a lot, and it looks exhausting yeah but I finally get to see her this week, so that'll be good. That'll be coming up. Um, anyway, give us a little update, tell us about your last couple of weeks, anything you want to fill everybody in in, other than the therapy reboot.

General Discussion

Speaker 2 12:25

Yeah my, my mental meltdown. One day it was not a mental meltdown. It was just a little minor reprocessing day. Yeah man, what else? What else been going on? I did take a. I got my gene testing for psychotropic drugs is what it's for.

Speaker 1 12:45

Um yeah, wow.

Speaker 2 12:47

Yeah, that's the anti anxiety, anti depressants, anti psychotics, a couple other things is what psychotropic drugs are. But anyway, my psych ordered that, and so what I also test for is a couple different gene things that have to do with how you metabolize drugs and different vitamins and stuff. So, um, one of them being murder gene, um mutation, which is just how well you process folic acid into forget if it's dopamine or serotonin or something your brain wants to like, um, be happy and functional, and so it's a test to see how well you convert folic acid into whatever your brain wants and people, with the varying levels of mutation, in that you can either convert it just fine, or you might not convert it very well, or you may do a really bad job converting it, in which case you should supplement with whatever that step in the process makes, which in this case is L methyl folate. So I'm mildly deformed in that aspect, so is that the word they use deformed.

Speaker 1 13:58

I don't think so. I don't think so either.

Speaker 2 14:03

Anyway, um, I'm somewhere in the middle, but now I know I should supplement my, my folic acid. That's interesting. So, yeah, it was interesting. It's like a 30 page report. That's kind of cool to read. So it's like, hey, don't take this, you can take this. And if you take this, you should expect to respond more or less with a standard dosing.

Speaker 1 14:28

Anytime I think about stuff like that, my brain explodes, because it does not make sense to me that so many complicated processes are taking place at the same time in order to make me exist in any way shape or form.

Speaker 2 14:40

Yeah, no, your body's just like doing everything and all at once, without you knowing it's. It's very complicated, and like everything can go like wrong, but it's also really good at like figuring it out.

Speaker 1 14:53

But well and also like the number one thing you can do is just drink water.

Speaker 2 14:58

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, like Drinking enough water helps a lot of stuff, like everything. Yeah, sleep and water and eating even just decently good foods, it will help a lot of stuff. So Wild, yeah. So take an extra folic acid, actually taking the the L-methylfolate special folic acid stuff.

Speaker 1 15:22

So anyway, and I'm still over here doing not a thing.

Speaker 2 15:26

Fruit loops. Fruit loops yeah, I bet there's folic acid and fruit loops. Maybe, there's a little bit. I bet there's some.

Speaker 1 15:33

Maybe I doubt it. I doubt I'm getting anything that I need. Actually, this morning I made myself a very well-rounded breakfast.

Speaker 2 15:40

Yeah, yeah, you did a real breakfast today. Go me. It was like eggs and cottage cheese and like the whole Avocado, the whole deal. Yeah, toast, healthy fats and proteins galore.

Speaker 1 15:51

Yeah, and carbs.

Speaker 2 15:52

Yeah.

Speaker 1 15:52

Like I had it all.

Speaker 2 15:54

Yeah, the whole food pyramid. Yeah, but like the better one, not the old school one. That's just like eat four loaves of bread a day.

Speaker 1 16:03

That's so funny that we've learned that.

Speaker 2 16:05

It was wild, like every time you look at it now it just gets crazier. It's like hey, they don't teach that anymore, right? No, no, there's an updated one that has, like that's vertical stripes and like not, it's not just like you should have bread with everything.

Speaker 1 16:21

I mean, I agree, yeah, I think you should have bread with everything.

Speaker 2 16:26

There's me who tries to have bread with nothing. Yeah, as little as possible, but yeah, yeah, it's the opposite of the food pyramid, what I eat.

Speaker 1 16:34

I don't have any big updates.

Speaker 2 16:36

Yeah.

Speaker 1 16:36

I haven't done anything. I went on my trip and then I had a girl slumber party to celebrate a friend's birthday.

Speaker 2 16:42

Yeah.

Speaker 1 16:42

I'd say that's the biggest thing that's happened to me in the last couple of weeks. Would highly recommend that, if you're in your 20s, your 30s, your 40s and you want to be celebrated for your birthday, plan a slumber party.

Speaker 2 16:57

Yeah, they got everybody out of the house, got everybody.

Speaker 1 16:59

We got an Airbnb and eight of us hung out and it was awesome. Truly so much fun.

Speaker 2 17:07

Yeah, no, it's been good. You've had a lot of like.

Speaker 1 17:11

I've been out to eat more in the last two weeks than, I think, the last five years combined.

Speaker 2 17:16

Really that much. Not actually. I was going to say like, but I had been out to eat a lot. Yeah, you've had a lot of. You've been catching up with people, yeah, and doing the thing, but I think it's been good. It's been really good for you to get out and see people and do all this stuff.

Speaker 1 17:29

Well, I also feel like that's this time of year, because from correct me if I'm wrong, people listening, let me know, but from pretty much after Halloween until January, you don't see anybody.

Speaker 2 17:44

Oh, because of holidays.

Speaker 1 17:45

It gets so absorbed in getting the house ready for Thanksgiving or getting ready to travel for Thanksgiving, resetting after Thanksgiving, getting everything ready for Christmas, going to any kind of fundraisers or events or like the.

Speaker 2 18:00

Work parties, work parties.

Speaker 1 18:01

Yeah, all of that in December. See, I don't even feel like we go to that many friend parties during that time of year.

Speaker 2 18:06

Oh, we don't, but some people do. Some people do yeah, and that's awesome. Other people have more friends.

Speaker 1 18:11

Okay, thanks. Always going to rely on Matt to just stroke you.

Speaker 2 18:15

No, I think we do just fine, but other people have more things to go to than us.

Speaker 1 18:20

Sometimes we have two kids too, anyway then come January, I feel like I always get a big influx of friends being like, hey, we put it off, like let's get together now, and then I always over schedule myself.

Speaker 2 18:32

Yeah, tailing to January. People are like, hey, we've rebooted, we've taken a couple of weeks to kind of decompress and now we're ready to see people and do stuff again. So, but it's been really. No, I've been. I've been happy for you getting out to see everybody. I think it's been something you've missed lately.

Speaker 1 18:49

It's the hardest part of content creation for me.

Speaker 2 18:52

Really.

Speaker 1 18:53

Yeah, I have very much considered the last year of going back, to which I haven't been in a nine to five since 2015.

Speaker 2 19:06

Yeah.

Speaker 1 19:06

But I have wondered if I should be going back to a nine to five. Matt thinks I would crumble. He doesn't think I'm capable of a nine to five. Um no, I don't know about that. I miss the team aspects of it.

Speaker 2 19:18

Yeah, no, I can definitely see that. I just think, um, you, you really thrive being your own boss, and I don't know how well you'd have to really have a good boss in a nine to five environment which you're not always in control of. So, um, I think you could do it. I do you really just miss coworkers having?

Speaker 1 19:38

a team. Yeah, I really do. Yeah, I, uh I don't like working by myself and it was the main reason I wanted to get out of wedding photography. Uh, also, the wedding industry had just taken a big shift in the last 10 years that I wasn't terribly on board with. But then content creation came along and I thought I was going to make Matt my coworker, and that hasn't necessarily. We do the podcast together. Yeah, I really enjoyed this part of things, um, but a lot of stuff is still on my own and it's such a privilege I don't know. I feel so silly talking about it, because it's such a privilege to get to do what I do, but I think I'd also like to be doing something where I have a team.

Speaker 2 20:21

Yeah, you just missed the team aspect.

Speaker 1 20:22

I'm a team player. Yeah, I loved a group project.

Speaker 2 20:27

Yeah, you're a social butterfly. You're not at work by yourself.

Speaker 1 20:31

And maybe people are going to come out of the woodworks to say I was the person that didn't do the work on the group project. But I had very few group project experiences like how people explain where it was all on one person to do everything and XYZ yeah. And I feel like in college I had pretty decent group project. I should ask Austin.

Speaker 2 20:53

That would be a good question yeah.

Speaker 1 20:55

I have a buddy who, one of my friends from college, married one of Matt's best friends from college, who's also now one of my very, very closest friends. But anyway, him and I had a lot of group projects together. We still talk, so I should ask him.

Speaker 2 21:10

So you remember.

Speaker 1 21:12

Maybe he's going to be like yeah, joe, you were terrible. I think that's why I love group projects.

Speaker 2 21:16

I'm trying to think of how I did group projects, because Did you have?

Speaker 1 21:21

very many of them in engineering.

Speaker 2 21:23

We had some. There were definitely some, but yeah, I was more of a like everybody do a part of a project and then come together Not necessarily let's all do it at the same time Because I think it was better for me to have a little bit of space to think through my own thoughts, my own process. I wasn't the worst group project. I'm sure I was not the best If for no other reason than I wanted to do stuff by myself.

Speaker 1 21:53

That blows my mind that you wanted to do stuff by yourself.

Speaker 2 21:57

Well, I don't know, there was just sometimes I had a little bit of like I think this is how it should work, and so I wanted to do it that way.

Speaker 1 22:06

Okay.

Speaker 2 22:07

It was fine as long as we were on the same page, but that didn't know what was happening.

Speaker 1 22:10

Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 22:12

The small group that I had.

Speaker 1 22:13

we tended to be on the same page, no what I will say is in my entrepreneurship class, I did run into the problem. I had a group project where I truly I came up with the concept of Kindle Unlimited. Oh yeah, that was my. This was 10 years ago. Kindle Unlimited did not exist at the time, but that was what I was pitching in our group project.

Speaker 2 22:39

Yeah.

Speaker 1 22:40

I'll never forget it and we had to do a part where we like defended our concept and everything. And I don't sorry if you're listening to this and you were in my group and I'm remembering this so wrong. I'm sorry, my memory is not the greatest, but what I do remember is getting up there and my group being so nervous about responding to questions and me just having the utmost confidence that I'm like, if there is nothing else on this planet that I can do, it is bullshit. I got this and I did, yeah.

Speaker 2 23:17

Yeah.

Speaker 1 23:18

I also felt really confident in the concept.

Speaker 2 23:20

Yeah, that always helps.

Speaker 1 23:22

But our professor was in newspaper and journalism publishing and so he was like it'll never stand, It'll never work, and I'm like this is going to be out in the next 10 years in some capacity or another. And we have Libby and we have Kindle Unlimited. Because what I said was it's the same concept as Spotify.

Speaker 2 23:44

Yeah, Spotify for books.

Speaker 1 23:46

Yeah.

Speaker 2 23:48

Which I mean they even have books now Well, audio books.

Speaker 1 23:50

But I wasn't.

Speaker 2 23:52

You were going strictly.

Speaker 1 23:53

Yes, ours was not audio books, because Audible did exist then already yeah. In a very Audible but for eyes yes.

Speaker 2 24:01

Audible. Anyway, that could have been the name Audible.

Speaker 1 24:06

Audible.

Speaker 2 24:06

Yeah, that's very good, I don't like it at all Anyway.

Speaker 1 24:10

I think it's all right, I remember that group project.

Speaker 2 24:13

Yeah, you had a bunch of weird group projects.

Speaker 1 24:16

I feel like we were talking about some of them this weekend. I did, we, so I went to business school for business and we also had this group project in our entrepreneurship course where small businesses around our area could sign up to get help from the college students. So just still to me is the craziest.

Speaker 2 24:37

Even at the time we were both like this is weird. Why are they reaching out to kids who don't know anything, who only know stuff from textbooks about how to make this work? But they did, they did, and it was. Some of the ideas were good. I'm sure A lot of it. Some of them, I'm sure it was just people doing analyses that they didn't want to do. But it was a little funny just as a concept to be like hey, I have this operation, I'm rating business, I'm going to go talk to college kids about how to run it and then they're going to pitch me ideas that may or may not be any good. But yeah, yeah, it was not my experience in engineering.

Speaker 1 25:16

Well, and you didn't get to pick what business you got, Like you just got given a random business.

Speaker 2 25:21

Yeah, it wasn't like hey I think I have some insight into this. It was like, hey, what do you know about tires?

Speaker 1 25:27

Yeah, and Austin was my partner for that one. And so I remember we went to this project and the person gave us a rundown on their business and Austin and I got in the car to leave and we were like I don't know how to help him.

Speaker 2 25:42

Like I don't understand the business, to begin with Like. I don't. I don't know how it works right now, so I don't know how to make it better.

Speaker 1 25:50

Exactly. Oh, I'll never forget that. That's so funny yeah.

Speaker 2 25:56

Oh, it's cool that you invented Kinoa Unlimited, though that's really cool.

Speaker 1 26:00

That's not what I would say.

Speaker 2 26:01

No, no, that's good. I think that's what we should say.

Speaker 1 26:04

I was not saying that.

Speaker 2 26:06

Now you know what your professor probably didn't you probably needed some backing on like an Amazon level to make Kinoa Unlimited work. That's probably a big benefit to be able to operate when you're like hey he's not really an object.

Speaker 1 26:17

You're not going to be able to get this off the ground. It's just an independent entrepreneur.

Speaker 2 26:23

Which I mean. There's an argument there that you couldn't source all of the rights to all of the books unless you already are a major player. But, the ideal was there? The idea? You had it. You had it.

Speaker 1 26:36

I also for me. My dad, since I was a little kid, is always like he loved. As you guys know from listening to Greg's Reads of the Week, he loves to pitch like just business lore, I mean, like that's what it is.

Speaker 2 26:50

Business lore. I like that.

Imitating and Celebrating Birthdays

Speaker 1 26:51

Yeah, and from the time I was a kid, he's like well, Joe, they're innovators, there are imitators and there are idiots. And I feel like my entire business school, when I had to come up with ideas, I was like we're just going to imitate. I was never innovating. No, that works. I still don't like.

Speaker 2 27:10

What's funny is, I feel like Spotify 4X is a pitch that a lot of people have had for a lot of different things 100%. It's like kind of a generic.

Speaker 1 27:20

It is an imitation.

Speaker 2 27:21

Spotify, but for boats, You're like what? But that's totally like a pitch that's been made.

Speaker 1 27:29

But for boats I'm dying. I like that. It isn't a digital product at all.

Speaker 2 27:35

But like totally, that's, I think, just kind of a phrase that people do because they're like, hey, I don't know how Spotify works, but we're going to do that for something.

Speaker 1 27:42

I'd like to defend myself a little bit, because you're making me feel a little stupid, this was also 10 years ago, a little longer than 10 years ago, and it was pre-subscription boom.

Speaker 2 27:52

Yeah.

Speaker 1 27:54

It was just when it was pre-all the subscription boxes being a thing, all the you know.

Speaker 2 28:00

Yeah, spotify, I feel like was barely.

Speaker 1 28:02

Spotify was early.

Speaker 2 28:04

Yeah, it'd only been a handful of years I joined.

Speaker 1 28:06

Spotify. My freshman year of college.

Speaker 2 28:08

Yeah, I think it was tailing to high school for me.

Speaker 1 28:10

Yeah, and so wild, anyway, yeah. I've always, after my dad taught me their innovators, their imitators and their idiots, I've always just decided I want to be an imitator. I have no interest in being an innovator.

Speaker 2 28:27

No, that sounds exhausting it does. Yeah, so you oscillate between imitator and idiot, is that?

Speaker 1 28:33

the sweet spot. 100%. Yeah, probably more idiot than imitator, but she tries.

Speaker 2 28:38

No, that's good. It's good. Yeah, imitating is just. It's good to have a blueprint for what you're going to do.

Speaker 1 28:46

Oh, yeah, it's taking something you've seen that was really innovative and doing your own spin on it. It's not actually recreating something entirely, it's not copying something, but it's taking a concept that already exists and making it better or providing some kind of service with it that makes it different and that's just a much more doable. Innovating is really hard without big financial backing too, I think.

Speaker 1 29:19

Yeah, you need some runway to do different, because even if you are an innovator and you have really incredible product, concept services something like that. To get out in front of the right people, you have to know somebody, or You're going to take risks, A lot of risks.

Speaker 2 29:36

That's what Sharktanks about right.

Speaker 1 29:39

No, I think, no, no, I don't think.

Speaker 2 29:42

No, okay, I haven't watched it closely Sometimes. Sometimes it's innovating, a lot of times it's imitating.

Speaker 1 29:48

Well, no, no, no. I don't think that people there don't. I just don't think that that's what the show is about. Spotify, but for shampoo.

Speaker 2 29:57

Now I can't stop thinking of dumb things. But Spotify for it.

Speaker 1 30:00

I don't know what that means, nobody does.

Speaker 2 30:03

But it's provocative. It gets the people going.

Speaker 1 30:05

Anyway, bad dad mean mom, do you have? Anything to bring to the table.

Speaker 2 30:10

Oh, I'm sure there's been some bad dad moments in the last couple of weeks. Man, I should have prepared myself for this. Do you have a mean mom?

Speaker 1 30:20

I was going to say mean mom forgot to send out birthday invitations for the birthday boy. Yeah, that's what mean mom did yeah.

Speaker 2 30:33

It is birthdays. We still got a little. We got a little bit Five days.

Speaker 1 30:37

Yeah, that's fine. It's pretty good.

Speaker 2 30:39

Yeah, we'll just have to do it today, it'll be digital.

Speaker 1 30:42

Well, it was going to be digital from the beginning. It was never going into the mail. I had planned to just have a little thing with just our family.

Speaker 2 30:50

How funny would it be to send it out via the mail now? People are going to get it like the day before.

Speaker 1 30:54

Or the day of the day of they're like oh, I guess it's today. Oh, the party's right now, yes. We're an hour late. So that's mean mom hasn't done a good job planning a birthday party and, honestly, that's something I really struggle with feeling guilty about is because event planning and hosting and doing all that stuff just does not come naturally to me. It is not innate to me and my parents didn't really. My parents had birthday parties for me, don't get me wrong. Sure, but birthdays were not major players.

Speaker 2 31:30

They were not Wasn't a hosted event.

Speaker 1 31:32

No, yeah, in my older years we would get to pick where we went to dinner and we would get a gift. Usually it's not that we weren't celebrated at all, but my sister's a big birthday party hostess and she goes all out and I'd like to find a happy medium between those two, because I really want our kids to feel like there is a day a year that is really about them and thought goes into it.

Speaker 2 32:04

That we're investing.

Speaker 3 32:05

Right.

Speaker 1 32:06

It's not just we get to that day and we're like all right, whatever you want to do, yeah, we're getting to that day and saying hey, these are things we know you love. We prepared this, this and this, and we really put thought into how we were going to celebrate you.

Speaker 2 32:21

Yeah, I think that's a great goal, and not to go way over the top with it. Either no and you're king for a month, or whatever, but just to show, hey, it's about you.

Speaker 1 32:34

Although Happy to celebrate you, I something I've been very adamant about with kids is, if I can control it, I would prefer all of our kids have their own birth month. I don't know. What do you want me to do about it?

Speaker 2 32:52

I've never heard that noise before. Okay, it's like a piano key. Anyway, all of your own birth months.

Speaker 1 33:02

If I can control it, I would love for all of our kids to have their own birth month. Okay, Nobody have birthdays in the same month.

Speaker 2 33:09

Yeah, okay, yeah, that's it. Thanks so much for talking to me. It's fairly, fairly doable. I see how it goes. So far, so far, so good so far so good. No.

Speaker 1 33:20

I don't know if that's weird, but yeah, I don't know. I liked that. I know that Each I don't know.

Speaker 2 33:28

I don't know, I'm a weirdo. You like distinctive birthdays and all that. Yeah, that's fair. I don't think it's like crazy. I don't know that. I totally understand it, but I'm it's probably not that important.

Speaker 1 33:42

Well, no, not probably. It's not like, I don't know, never mind. Do you have a bad dad? Get out of here? Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 33:51

I'm sure I do. I'm trying to think have I been perfect for two weeks? Surely not. No, I definitely have. Not, man, I was gone.

Speaker 1 34:04

Yeah, you were gone so you think crazy happened while I was gone, that you're waiting to tell me Kids are all they're intact.

Speaker 2 34:09

They got fed, like most probably all their meals. I'm joking, they got fed all their meals.

Speaker 1 34:16

Well, guys mean mom bad dad, it's only mean mom Dad's perfect, no. I would like to note that dad doesn't feel any pressure about the birthday party and dad also didn't plan the birthday party.

Speaker 2 34:28

Yeah.

Speaker 1 34:29

Yeah, but he doesn't feel bad about it?

Speaker 2 34:31

Ingrained misogyny at work. Is that what's happening?

Speaker 1 34:35

No, I don't know probably. Yeah that's a girl's job.

Speaker 2 34:39

Yeah.

Speaker 1 34:40

Yeah, celebrations, woman's job.

Speaker 2 34:42

Yeah. So celebrating your kids, that's not for for dads. Okay, there's bad dad, get that out of the way. I was, yeah, birthdays were not a big thing for me either, so it's not a natural, natural inclination. We did a few things where like we would go out somewhere, like we're gonna go to go carts, and then you'd invite your handful friends to go do that with you, but Definitely was not a big Whole party. It was like here's a cake, here's a gift, happy birthday.

Speaker 1 35:13

My friend Brittany growing up and not the friend that you guys hear me talk about all the time a childhood friend had the coolest Birthday parties and she always had two, two birthday parties. Always she had one for her church friends and one for her school friends. Oh, but I was her neighbor so I got to go to both. I was the only friend that went to both the church party and Party party because she was a school, she was a grade above me.

Speaker 1 35:43

Yeah in school and Every year they would do a different craft, kind of like what we do at the ornament party, where you take a picture and I think mom and dad still have some of them, but like we would craft these little pots with little flowers and then our face would be in the middle of the flower or whatever it was and I like I was like Brittany's mom. This is so cool. Like Brittany gets to have the coolest parties. Yeah, and it was really fun. You've always been an arts and crafts girly. I really, I love crap.

Speaker 2 36:13

Speaking of how's an eagle point going slow, so slow guys.

Speaker 1 36:19

I I'm, but I'm not discouraged. Have I seen discouraged?

Speaker 2 36:23

No, you've been, you've been plugging along at it. It's just, it is very slow. Yeah, surprising how slow it is.

Speaker 1 36:28

I just feel bad because I feel like I've been taking people along with my journey online and I really only have, at most, maybe an average of an an hour a night to work on it. I'm not doing it that way. I've been spending like twice a week where I do Like we watch a show and I do a couple hours, while Matt and I watch a show together. But I've been working on it for what? Three weeks.

Speaker 2 36:53

Yeah, I bet you've got probably 10 hours into it at this point, you think. Do you think it's a little?

Speaker 1 36:56

more. I would say it's probably closer to 15.

Speaker 2 37:00

You got a good chunk done last night because I looked. I moved it off the coffee table this morning because I got up with the kids and I was like, oh, we got to move this off the table before our Baby.

Speaker 1 37:09

I'm like a third.

Speaker 2 37:10

Yeah.

Speaker 1 37:10

I'm a solid 33%. That's what.

'Christmas Stockings and Needlepoint Projects

Speaker 2 37:12

I was. I was noticing, because before yesterday it was, it was I don't know An eighth of the way done like I don't think all four of us are gonna have stockings by Christmas. I yeah, we're not. We're definitely gonna have my Christmas. No, I'm curious which Christmas it would be Like. How old would she be, she's? Two and a half now, do you think by the time she's five?

Speaker 1 37:37

For sure, cuz I'll do hers first, like I'll do them in birth order, like so I'll do G's and then I'll do Rory's and then, hopefully, by the time I finish, those two will be having another one.

Speaker 2 37:50

Yeah, but I think I think to have it done on time you may have to be doing it like you once. If you get pregnant like well, needle point has to start then but that's, that's what people do.

Speaker 1 38:01

Okay, that's what I want to do.

Speaker 2 38:02

Tons of people that it's like a pregnancy project.

Speaker 1 38:04

Yeah, a lot of people when they're pregnant with that child, they create and do the needle point for that stocking.

Speaker 2 38:14

Okay, that makes some sense.

Speaker 1 38:16

Okay, and I love that I'm like okay, but I have some catching up to do.

Speaker 2 38:19

Yeah, for sure, but I was just like, but I also.

Speaker 1 38:23

Really like to make them for Friends and I want to make them for us, and so I got it. I got a. Really this is my new thing.

Speaker 2 38:31

Yeah, the needle point, queen.

Speaker 1 38:34

Well, I don't want to be the needle point queen, I just wanted it to be something I do sure here and there.

Speaker 2 38:40

Yeah, well, you've got. Yeah, I mean it is it's very relaxing. Yeah, it doesn't stressful, but it is time-consuming yeah it's very relaxing.

Speaker 1 38:49

I enjoy it. It keeps me off a screen, which is funny because I have been watching TV while I do it. You're not much of a TV watcher anyway but I've been able to really participate in shows with you because I'm not occupied.

Speaker 2 39:01

Yeah, you don't have your phone to look at you're.

Speaker 1 39:04

You're doing needle point or my book, or whatever it is, yeah some other form of media.

Speaker 2 39:09

Mm-hmm, because you're not a multimedia viewing gal.

Speaker 1 39:13

No one is, and I stand by that no one is. So okay, do we want to do Greg's reads? Yeah, let's do some Greg's reads of the week.

Speaker 2 39:21

Greg's, your dad. He reads a lot of news and he sends us articles and then we rate those articles based on their title. You're just singing over me.

Speaker 1 39:30

Sorry, geez, I thought I was doing like a backtrack kind of.

Speaker 2 39:34

I don't know, we'll see how it comes out. Okay, I'm concerned that it may just be louder than what I'm doing, but look, I'm way softer.

Speaker 1 39:40

You can see it on the on the audio.

Speaker 2 39:42

Yeah, I'm the bottom one, I know okay okay, I've studied over 200 kids.

Speaker 1 39:47

Here are six things kids with high emotional intelligence do every day. Hmm, three, oh, really. Yeah, that doesn't give me any anxiety.

Speaker 2 39:58

Yeah, I just. You know, I want my kid to have good emotional intelligence and I don't know that I started with great emotional intelligence, so Maybe projecting a little insecurity there. I Didn't read the article. I Think I peeked at it, but it was a while ago, right yesterday. Oh no, I'm just kidding. Different article then. Yeah, that's not the one I looked at.

Speaker 1 40:19

Okay, Okay. Celebrate winter in the wild with 15 photos of animals enjoying the snow.

Speaker 2 40:26

I mean five out of five anxiety.

Speaker 1 40:28

This is the kind of article I love to receive. I live for Animals in the snow. It was a very cute collection animal snow listicle. Yeah, yeah from the Smithsonian. Yeah like Nothing could be better. They're so cute. They are cute and there were ponies, ponies in the snow, nothing, nothing better.

Speaker 2 40:50

No, there's rain, reindeer or caribou.

Speaker 1 40:53

I think they're caribou?

Speaker 2 40:55

I don't know the difference very well.

Speaker 1 40:56

Fabulous, fabulous, great article, Dad, All right, and the last one for this week. Chicken littles are ruining America.

Speaker 2 41:06

Okay, I think, because I don't understand it. It's going to be like a one out of five for me, maybe a two out of five, since they're ruining America.

Speaker 1 41:17

I think I don't know what chicken little means, because I'm thinking of the movie the sky is falling. Oh, got it, got it, got it, got it.

Speaker 2 41:26

I mean, it's a great article title, but it's also very silly.

Speaker 1 41:30

Yeah, no anxiety on that for me personally, but they're ruining.

Speaker 2 41:34

America. No anxiety there.

Speaker 1 41:37

No, not really. I think that there's plenty of blame to go around.

Speaker 2 41:43

Okay, it's not just chicken littles.

Speaker 1 41:45

No, I'd say that.

Speaker 2 41:47

You got your big bad wolves and your.

Speaker 1 41:50

Yeah, that doesn't stress me out that much. Your tortoise is in the hairs and Because it also I think to be stressed about that you have to not know that's happening. You know, Okay, and I'm no hater, but I'm no.

Speaker 2 42:04

Well, I think we should blame it all on the chicken littles.

Speaker 1 42:06

Okay.

Speaker 2 42:08

So all you chicken littles out there, we don't know what it means, but you're ruining this country.

Speaker 1 42:12

Yeah.

Speaker 2 42:13

Got them.

Speaker 1 42:14

Got them. We have all kinds of voice mails today. That's great.

Speaker 2 42:18

Get your voice mails. Get your voice mails.

Speaker 1 42:21

Voice mails. I really that's something I want to do with the rebrand is I want to have a little music that goes in and I know somebody was like please never stop singing. You know what? I probably won't, but I still would like it, we may add a little production. Yeah, we want a little production, we want a little flair, a little glitter, a little sparkle.

Speaker 2 42:40

I think they got it a while ago.

Speaker 1 42:41

Cabang, a little kaboom, a little wowsa.

Speaker 2 42:44

Okay, all right, somebody ask a question.

Long-Distance Relationship Tips and Optimism

Speaker 3 42:48

Hey Jo and Matt. This is Kristen from Cincinnati. I love you guys so much. I think you're such an uplifting light and I love your realness, your authenticity and everything you guys bring to the podcast. So thank you for all that you do. I'm looking for a bit of advice, optimism perhaps. My long-term boyfriend he and I were planning on getting engaged this year 2024, him moving in to the starter home that I bought in May of last year, and then he took a job opportunity. We agreed that he would take a job opportunity. It's five and a half hour drive away for the next calendar year. So I'm looking for some reviewed tips of long-distance relationships, as well as some optimism of what I can pour myself into and use this time to do, learn more and grow, because I feel a little adrift right now. Thank you so much. Bye.

Speaker 1 43:46

I love long distance. I always go back to this when people talk about it, and I think Matt and I are a little crazy, because I love being with you too, don't get me wrong. Yeah, like we have a lot of fun together, but we really established when we were together we made sure we're not big textors.

Speaker 4 44:03

I'll start with that.

Speaker 1 44:04

Like I know a lot of people who are long distance text back and forth about their day all along Like their day.

Speaker 2 44:10

I think that almost makes it their day all day long.

Speaker 1 44:13

I couldn't get that out. We did not do that we like went to our respective jobs. We did our day If something came up that like I wanted you to be like. Hey, I would call you or shoot you a text, but at night we would always have a call before bed, as long as neither of us had plans, because sometimes you'd be going out to do something, or sometimes I'd be at a wedding or X Y.

Speaker 1 44:38

Z, whatever. So there were obviously exceptions, but we would mostly talk that evening. But honestly, we would hold our most our cards pretty close in looking forward to the time that we were going to get to spend together. So if it was, we weren't going to see each other for three weeks, we would kind of hold everything close and then those three days we got to spend together, we would really intentionally spend three days like catching up, talking about stuff and all of that. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 45:06

Yeah, yeah, no, I again. I think it's almost easier not to text all the time. Like you're kind of using your conversation ammo up throughout the day. If you're just, like stream of consciousness, talking about everything that happens to you that day, Whereas you know end of the day, you can catch up and well and, when you think about it, when you live together like if you guys were in the same place.

Speaker 1 45:26

I think there's something about long distance that gives us this idea. We need to be in communication all the time, but when you're together, you're still not together all day. No like we don't. We live in the same place, but it's not like when we're not together we're texting and things like that, and so it's trying to treat it as normal as you can. As for things that you can pour yourself into If you like to read, pick up books, spend some time, learn needlepoint.

Speaker 2 45:50

I was going to say needlepoint takes up a boatload of time.

Speaker 1 45:53

Pick up some trash TV that your friends love and convene on the phone and talk about it, or do that with your significant other Like find a show and it doesn't mean that you guys have to watch it at the same time, but know that when you guys see each other you're going to catch up about that season of Love Island or whatever it is that you were watching.

Speaker 1 46:14

We did some of that when we were long distance and it's finding things to connect that aren't on a timetable. I think because that gives both of you the space to exist within your own current environment while also prioritizing connecting.

Speaker 2 46:32

Yeah, no, it's a great time. It's a great time to work out a lot. It's a great time to spend a lot of time with your friends, assuming they have the space to do that. Take advantage of the time and the space you have. It's not ideal, I'm sure, but there will be a time that you will miss having all of that space.

Speaker 1 46:58

I know I've told that story of my sister talking to me, but I feel like I tell it every time something like this comes up her saying to me when she had kids and I was single and alone and I was like man, I'm just lonely and I feel lost and this and that, and her telling me how much I was going to miss that I really do. I use that reframing so often in situations in my life. Last night we had a toddler in our bed who wanted to be snuggled up against me all night and wanted to kick her legs literally into me through the night as I was laying there so tired I just want to sleep. I had that moment where I'm like it's okay to feel tired and it's okay to feel frustration with this, but also, let's try to remember that 10 years from now and 20 years from now, I'm going to miss these little moments so much. I'm just going to embrace it and enjoy it the best that I can, and it is what it is.

Speaker 2 47:57

Maybe that's where the yawning is coming from.

Speaker 1 47:59

Yeah, oh, for sure.

Speaker 2 48:00

For sure. Yeah, no, yeah, it's. You've got a timeline, which is good. That's one of the important things, too is to have an idea of how long is this going to be, and so you can manage that expectation and just trust. That's the big part of it. It's just hey, we're on the same team, we've got a timeline, it'll work out and so take advantage of the space.

Speaker 1 48:27

You don't have to be together all the time to have a fantastic relationship and I think I don't know. I have just always had a lot of long distance relationships because my sisters never lived in the same state as me. My best friend, who I became best friends with while I was like we've known each other since before but we became like a ride or die, starting in like late college for me. She lived in a different state and went to a different college than me. We knew each other growing up and everything. My best friends from toddler through high school now live in different states and other sides of the country for me, and so I think I've just had to have a lot of practice and maintaining relationships not in the physical presence. And obviously when we get to see one another it's so wonderful and I do have friends that are within my physical day to day and that's great too. But I think it's something that just takes practice and you can have just as wonderful relationships with all the tools we have at our disposal now.

Speaker 2 49:25

Yeah, it's a lot harder to be codependent if you live five and a half hours away.

Speaker 1 49:30

Or if you have codependency issues. It's a great time to work them out, yeah that's true, all right, another one, hi, joe and Matt.

Parenthood and Wedding Rings

Speaker 4 49:39

I'm just going to preface by saying I'm going to be really sappy for a minute and then I'm going to have a random question for you guys at the end. But I just wanted to give a shout out to Matt. I was listening to your guys' first podcast back after the Christmas break and I just really appreciated his honesty about how parenting doesn't always come natural for him. I think it's really tricky being a man and knowing how to parent sometimes, because I don't think that's typically what's asked of men and not something you are kind of introduced to early in your life. I know for my dad I was literally the first baby he had ever held and he knows that it wasn't always super easy for him.

Speaker 4 50:20

But listening to you talk about reading with G and how important you know that's going to be for her, I just want you to know that it is Coming from a girl whose dad may not have had every skill in the book but was always there. He came to practice, he read the books, he watched Lunchbox with us, like those moments are truly what count, and not to tell you guys how to parent, but I just watched my dad and my brother and the conversations they're having where my dad is very honest, being like. It was hard, but this is what I've learned and I think it's amazing that he's kind of passing that along to the next generation and I think your conversation will really help that. And then my question is if there was three things you would not bring to a deserted island, what would they be?

Speaker 1 51:03

Thanks, bye, are you crying, trying not to? Oh, I'm crying.

Speaker 2 51:09

Trying not to.

Speaker 1 51:11

Oh, it makes me cry too.

Speaker 2 51:12

Yeah, that is very sweet, Thank you.

Speaker 1 51:15

She's so spot on, though I think that there is a huge miss on culture's part in raising men to be a part of things.

Speaker 2 51:30

Yeah, emotionally available.

Speaker 1 51:32

I'm not blaming anybody for that. Well, maybe I am. I'm definitely not blaming women.

Speaker 2 51:40

No, no, I think they've tried for the most part.

Speaker 1 51:42

But I really am happy to see the way our generation is changing, that I think there's a huge shift.

Speaker 2 51:50

Yeah, yeah, definitely no, it's good to hear, though I do appreciate that.

Speaker 1 51:55

Things that we would or wouldn't bring. Would not bring to a desert island.

Speaker 2 52:01

Yeah, would not bring to a desert island.

Speaker 1 52:06

Like that. People commonly say probably that's kind of hard.

Speaker 2 52:14

It is really hard.

Speaker 1 52:16

A laptop. Yeah because you're not going to have internet or anything like that. I honestly am inclined to not bring any tech.

Speaker 2 52:26

Yeah, no, I don't think anything with batteries and no charger, although what's?

Speaker 1 52:29

funny is, I think last time when we got asked this question of what we would bring, I was like Kindle and my solar charger?

Speaker 2 52:37

No, exactly, I think that's what I said.

Speaker 1 52:39

And then I was like matches.

Speaker 2 52:41

Yeah, inflatable boat.

Speaker 1 52:44

See, I don't want to be stuck in the ocean on an inflatable boat. You'd rather be on the island forever Not forever, but I'm scared. The thing is, if I go out in the boat, do I know where I am?

Speaker 2 52:55

No.

Speaker 1 52:56

Right, so I don't want to just go off the ocean's not that big right Okay.

Speaker 2 53:00

You should be able to just go in a strange way for a while.

Speaker 1 53:03

No problem, I don't know what else that's hard.

Speaker 2 53:08

Sand. I wouldn't bring sand. Okay, I wouldn't bring rocks. I think those are going to be provided by the island Provided.

Speaker 1 53:17

The island provides.

Speaker 2 53:18

Yeah, I'd give it and take it away.

Speaker 1 53:24

I think a lot of people would you bring like a flare.

Speaker 2 53:28

A flare. I mean that's a good idea. I wouldn't have thought of it oh okay. Now, if you're limited by the number of things you can bring, you might have more immediate needs than a flare, because I feel like that's a one and done situation.

Speaker 1 53:43

I know.

Speaker 2 53:44

Yeah, I don't know. There's a lot of things.

Speaker 1 53:47

Unlimited flare.

Speaker 2 53:49

Yeah, we're just making stuff up now the Spotify for islands.

Speaker 1 53:56

No.

Speaker 2 53:56

Okay. I don't think we answered that question. Great, but food for thought.

Speaker 1 54:00

That's hard.

Speaker 2 54:01

Yeah.

Speaker 1 54:02

Because I can say three things. I can be like I wouldn't bring plants, I wouldn't bring lamps, I wouldn't bring chairs.

Speaker 2 54:08

I wouldn't bring a dog.

Speaker 1 54:09

But I'm trying to be thoughtful about. I was trying to think of things that people commonly say they're gonna bring, and why I wouldn't bring those things.

Speaker 2 54:16

Yeah, matches, but I don't know how to start fire as well, so that would be good.

Speaker 1 54:21

I know I always think matches or I think that I'm back to charging devices. I want that electronic thing that does the little arc, the little shh, lighter.

Speaker 2 54:31

Oh like, oh, got it the electric lighter.

Speaker 1 54:34

Yeah, but I want the battery to last for like a forever.

Speaker 2 54:38

Yeah, it's basically like a small taser is what those are.

Speaker 1 54:41

I know it's fantastic, yeah, so one more voicemail for today.

Speaker 5 54:49

Hey guys. So my question for you is do you guys always wear your wedding rings? If so, why? And if not, then why not? My husband hates wearing any kind of jewelry and for some reason it really bothers my dad that he doesn't wear a wedding ring. At first it's kind of bothered me, but I just don't. I really don't feel like it's that big of a deal. I don't know like I trust him. I don't feel like it's a make like a deal breaker that he doesn't wear it but and he doesn't expect me to wear mine all the time either. So I don't know. I just wanted to know what you guys' opinion on was. With that, bye.

Speaker 2 55:47

You don't wear your ring all the time I was gonna say this is a great question for us, because what percentage of the time do you think I wear my ring?

Speaker 1 55:55

50.

Speaker 2 55:57

You think I don't sleep with it.

Speaker 1 55:58

Oh, okay, I'm talking about awake hours. I guess Got awake hours. You think it's 50%.

Speaker 2 56:02

Yeah, probably. I think it might be lower than that. Really, I take it off to work out and a lot of times it won't go on until the next day.

Speaker 1 56:08

Yeah.

Speaker 2 56:10

Yeah, I mean it's 50% or less for sure.

Wedding Rings and Jewelry Preferences

Speaker 1 56:13

I forget to wear mine some, like I usually sleep in mine. Wear them all the time, but occasionally I will take them off if I'm doing like a self tan or something like that, and then I'll forget to put them on the next day.

Speaker 2 56:24

Yeah, if your wedding ring is the only thing keeping you honest in your relationship. There's a big problem here, like if that's all you got. This is not ideal.

Speaker 1 56:33

That's exactly what I was thinking about. Your dad like it bothering him. I'm like I don't know. I think it would bother me if I found out you were slipping it off when not around me as like a sneak.

Speaker 2 56:47

Like I walked out the door with it on and then I took it off immediately, just to be out in public without it.

Speaker 3 56:51

Yeah.

Speaker 1 56:53

Yeah, if you're being weird about it. Yes, that's weird, you know, but that's more a behavior issue than not like the ring itself, the ring problem Right.

Speaker 2 57:01

What's funny is I actually like jewelry. I'd like to have more jewelry. I just don't wear my ring a lot.

Speaker 1 57:06

Yeah, I really want you to get a tattoo.

Speaker 2 57:09

So tattoos and jewelry, that's going to be my new.

Speaker 1 57:11

No, I want you to get like a tattoo not necessarily a ring, but like your ring tattooed. Yeah, you talked when we first got married. You talked about doing that, I did, and then you didn't find like a design that you super loved, yeah, and so you never went, which is fine.

Speaker 2 57:26

Yeah, like here or there, I think they wear pretty hard too, like they either require a lot of maintenance or they fade fast.

Speaker 3 57:33

Yeah.

Speaker 2 57:34

And especially in, like a high use area. They don't last, they break down a lot.

Speaker 1 57:39

Yeah.

Speaker 2 57:41

Yeah, no, I'm yeah, less than 50% of the time I'm wearing my ring.

Speaker 1 57:45

I wear mine most of the time, but I also have a tan line.

Speaker 2 57:49

Yeah, like, yeah, you wear, you're doing rings a lot Cause I have a stack. So I have a tan line where even in the winter yeah, but where I don't like, since I don't sleep in it. There's plenty of days where I don't put it on for a while.

Speaker 1 58:01

I all the time pick it up from places and I propose to you.

Speaker 2 58:05

You do, you do. The real problem with me not wearing it at night is that our toddler comes in and she's like look, look, I have this cool ring for you, dad, Daddy's ring, daddy ring.

Speaker 2 58:16

It's okay if I'm there and she tries to give me the ring cause I'm like, okay, cool, I'll put it on or can you put it back on the table. But there are times that she comes in and it's on the table and she'll bring it to me and it may or may not make it back to the nightstand, like if I lose my ring. It's about 60, 40 that it may be. Our toddler have just placed it somewhere in the house.

Speaker 1 58:35

You would be really upset, I would be upset.

Speaker 2 58:38

Not with her.

Speaker 1 58:39

Like no, no, no, yeah, I meant just in general. Like you love your ring, yeah no, I love my ring.

Speaker 2 58:42

It's great, but yeah, it's not on my finger a lot.

Speaker 1 58:47

Which sounds weird to say. Funny that you want more jewelry cause I'm like you don't wear the jewelry you have.

Speaker 2 58:54

Yeah, I would take it all off. I like it aesthetically though.

Speaker 1 58:57

Yeah. And I think more would be fine I wear my jewelry all the time, like I posted a picture from us being at Memphis in May after our wedding and if you look at the photo, I'm wearing the exact jewelry I still wear.

Speaker 2 59:12

Yeah.

Speaker 1 59:13

Five years later, not a. I've added a couple things, like I added a band. That's all I've added. I also ordered my new ring that's going to be coming in the next couple of weeks, and other than that, it's all the same jewelry.

Speaker 2 59:27

Yeah, you added your little ankle.

Speaker 1 59:30

I broke that off yeah.

Speaker 3 59:32

I'm still so sad about that.

Speaker 1 59:33

I had it in one of the permanent jewelry Anglitz and I had it for I don't know like five or six months and then somebody said to me she's like oh, I'm jealous, I never get those because I always break mine off. And I was like I've never had that problem and literally four days later I broke it off.

Speaker 3 59:49

Yeah, I was like that was karma.

Speaker 2 59:53

No, I like the look. I like the look of jewelry. I just don't have any. I don't have any bracelets. I really do.

Speaker 1 59:58

I'm a big, I've always been into that.

Speaker 2 1:00:01

I like wrist jewelry too, but I don't have a lot of that either.

Speaker 1 1:00:05

We should get you some jewels man. Jewel. I like the idea of jewels For our fifth anniversary. Maybe I'll get you some rings.

Speaker 2 1:00:12

Rings.

Speaker 1 1:00:13

Yeah, what are you vibing with? You want like a skull.

Speaker 2 1:00:16

I can now just think of like big jewels. That's really funny to me.

Speaker 1 1:00:21

You know, my grandfather growing up had a big old ruby ring. All the time it was not real but he always had it on and then they had it made into a necklace for my grandmother when he passed. And then when my grandmother passed, I think my sister got it. That's cool, but I always remember him wearing that.

Speaker 2 1:00:42

Yeah, no, I just think it'd be fun to Class rings used to be like a thing. Yeah, Did anyone actually very few people, I feel like actually wore them though.

Speaker 1 1:00:49

My dad had it. I think it was really popular for, like our parents' generation.

Speaker 2 1:00:53

To wear them around.

Speaker 1 1:00:54

Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:00:55

Like out and about.

Speaker 1 1:00:57

Yeah, not like in their fifties. Like, that's not what I mean, but I think they wore them.

Speaker 2 1:01:03

Yeah.

Speaker 1 1:01:03

Maybe not like. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 1:01:05

They were definitely losing popularity when we were in high school.

Speaker 1 1:01:07

Oh, for sure, nobody even got a class ring, yeah, like that was not a.

Speaker 2 1:01:11

Some people did, and then I feel like there was a lot of people that got them and they're like what am I going to do with this? There was just like an appeal to it and then I was like do I wear this around my high school? Do I wear this? Like? When am I going to my job with this thing on? Especially for high school, not even college.

Speaker 1 1:01:27

I don't remember people getting them when I was in high school.

Speaker 2 1:01:29

Yeah.

Speaker 1 1:01:30

But people didn't have Letterman jackets when I was in high school either. Did you guys do Letterman jackets?

Speaker 2 1:01:36

You could.

Speaker 1 1:01:37

Like I'm kind of like I was a varsity swimmer. Why didn't I have a Letterman jacket?

Speaker 2 1:01:43

Oh, you had to buy them.

Speaker 1 1:01:44

I would be fine with that.

Speaker 2 1:01:45

Yeah.

Speaker 1 1:01:46

They're cool, I think Letterman jackets, like I would have liked to have one from my high school.

Speaker 2 1:01:50

Some people had them. I feel like. I feel like the only people I can think of who had them were maybe some of the football players, maybe wrestlers.

Speaker 1 1:01:58

Like I don't remember, I didn't see a lot of them. I have somebody from my high school.

Speaker 2 1:02:03

Like a bold color scheme.

Speaker 1 1:02:04

We were black and red.

Speaker 2 1:02:06

Yeah, it's a bold color scheme, though to go like stark red and black.

Speaker 1 1:02:12

I always thought Glendale. So I'm from Springfield, missouri, and I would have. I grew up in Glendale district but I went to Central, across town, because I was in the International Baccalaureate Program, but Glendale's colors was blue and red and I always thought that was sick because it was like baby blue.

Speaker 2 1:02:29

Yeah, they had baby blue.

Speaker 1 1:02:30

Their stuff was cute. And then we had Kickapoo. Nobody wanted to kick up.

Speaker 2 1:02:36

No, it was brown and gold. Yeah, I was horrible. That was tough.

Speaker 1 1:02:40

And they're in the high school's name is Kickapoo.

Speaker 2 1:02:43

Yeah, that had. There was a lot of.

Speaker 1 1:02:46

They owned it. I will say they did kick up who students? They rolled with it.

Speaker 2 1:02:49

Good for y'all kick the poo shirts and like that other schools made. I'm sure it was just off the charts.

Speaker 1 1:02:56

It was just low hanging fruit. It really, really was in their colors, just that's yeah, the colors really added to it, so yeah like Fayetteville High School here in Northwest Ardenville, purple purple and that's so fun.

Speaker 2 1:03:14

Yeah it's, it's much cooler.

Speaker 1 1:03:15

Did we have? Because? No, because Hillcrest was orange. Oh no no, Parkview was green.

Speaker 2 1:03:23

Oh OK.

Speaker 1 1:03:23

And Hillcrest was the Hornets. I don't know. I don't know either. We're really challenging.

Speaker 2 1:03:29

We might the town or the city this is local high school geography for people listening to this podcast internationally.

Speaker 1 1:03:36

Well, the city I grew up in had five public high schools.

Speaker 2 1:03:42

Yeah.

Speaker 1 1:03:42

And that's interesting to a lot of people, because a lot of people grew up in small towns where their town only had like a high school. Other people listening grew up in like Dallas, where they had.

Speaker 2 1:03:50

There was 75 high schools.

Speaker 1 1:03:53

Yeah, so don't get me wrong, but people here are always like wait, you had five.

Speaker 2 1:03:58

Well it's kind of odd how few high schools there are for this area's size in.

Speaker 1 1:04:01

Northwest Arkansas.

Speaker 2 1:04:02

Yeah there's.

Speaker 1 1:04:03

there really is big, very bizarre for the area, anyway, anyway, well, not no, we're happy to be back. Yeah, we missed y'all last week.

Speaker 2 1:04:12

Matt is we're going to try and keep our mental faculties running at least enough to podcast.

Speaker 1 1:04:18

So back and better than ever, baby.

Speaker 2 1:04:20

Taking this new, you know, folic acid. Maybe that'll fix everything.

Speaker 1 1:04:23

It's going to transform his life.

Speaker 2 1:04:25

Yeah, my brain will be operating better than ever.

Speaker 1 1:04:27

Full capacity. Yeah, we love it. Talk to you guys soon. Bye.