Oversharing with the Overbys

Fridge Fiascos and Surprise Guests

May 01, 2024 Jo Johnson Overby & Matt Overby Season 1 Episode 76
Fridge Fiascos and Surprise Guests
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Oversharing with the Overbys
Fridge Fiascos and Surprise Guests
May 01, 2024 Season 1 Episode 76
Jo Johnson Overby & Matt Overby

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When life hands you a fridge that won't fit, what do you do? Laugh, of course, and then share the tale with the world. Surprise guest Greg joins us, bringing a live reaction to his signature 'Reads of the Week' segment, as well as sharing some wisdom he has picked up along the way. From room revamps that whisk us back to the funky days of our youth, to the sweet yet intricate dance of transitioning from parenthood to grandparenthood, we're peeling back the layers of family life with a little bit of humor.

Grab your headphones and prepare for a journey through memory lane, dotted with donut-tossing escapades and musings on the generational changes in what constitutes 'acceptable fun.' We're not just reminiscing, though—we're tackling the here and now of parenting toddlers, turning those sleepless nights and tantrums into teaching moments that you can't help but smile about. And if that's not enough, we're ready to expand your vocabulary and get your wheels turning on everything from financial strategies to the subtle semantics of living room decor.

We wrap it up with a few voicemails from our listeners, so be sure to check it out and enjoy the episode with Greg!

If you've got a voicemail or want our (likely unqualified) advice on something, hit us up at the Speakpipe link below!

http://www.speakpipe.com/oversharingwiththeoverbys

If you'd like to email us you can reach the pod at oversharing@jojohnsonoverby.com!

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TikTok: @jojohnsonoverby / @matt.overby
Instagram: @jojohnsonoverby / @matt.overby
Website: https://jojohnsonoverby.com/
Watch the Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL29Si0ylWz2qj5t6hYHSCxYkvZCDGejGq


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When life hands you a fridge that won't fit, what do you do? Laugh, of course, and then share the tale with the world. Surprise guest Greg joins us, bringing a live reaction to his signature 'Reads of the Week' segment, as well as sharing some wisdom he has picked up along the way. From room revamps that whisk us back to the funky days of our youth, to the sweet yet intricate dance of transitioning from parenthood to grandparenthood, we're peeling back the layers of family life with a little bit of humor.

Grab your headphones and prepare for a journey through memory lane, dotted with donut-tossing escapades and musings on the generational changes in what constitutes 'acceptable fun.' We're not just reminiscing, though—we're tackling the here and now of parenting toddlers, turning those sleepless nights and tantrums into teaching moments that you can't help but smile about. And if that's not enough, we're ready to expand your vocabulary and get your wheels turning on everything from financial strategies to the subtle semantics of living room decor.

We wrap it up with a few voicemails from our listeners, so be sure to check it out and enjoy the episode with Greg!

If you've got a voicemail or want our (likely unqualified) advice on something, hit us up at the Speakpipe link below!

http://www.speakpipe.com/oversharingwiththeoverbys

If you'd like to email us you can reach the pod at oversharing@jojohnsonoverby.com!

CONNECT:
TikTok: @jojohnsonoverby / @matt.overby
Instagram: @jojohnsonoverby / @matt.overby
Website: https://jojohnsonoverby.com/
Watch the Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL29Si0ylWz2qj5t6hYHSCxYkvZCDGejGq


Speaker 1:

Welcome to Oversharing with Overbees. I'm Jo. And I'm Matt, and each week you can tune in to hear us respond to your voicemails, go in-depth on our lives as content creators and hopefully leave you feeling even better than we found you.

Speaker 2:

With that being said, let's get to Oversharing.

Speaker 1:

I don't know how many people watch on YouTube. Actually, I do know the exact number and it is a very, very small percentage. So if you're not watching on YouTube, you don't know that Matt and I are currently crushed together on one mic. It's real cute, very cute. But Matt's super panicked about his voice carrying, so if you guys could all send him DMs telling about how hard it was to understand him and how the setup was terrible, in order to help affirm him.

Speaker 2:

Is this supposed to make me want to check my DMs more?

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay, you're not checking them right. Looking for negative feedback, is that Okay?

Speaker 1:

Well, I think the negative feedback would make you feel like see, I was right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I don't want to be right about how I feel about myself.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2:

Wait about yourself, yeah what.

Speaker 3:

I'm talking about how you feel about the mic setup.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay, okay. But now if you're wondering why, why are you guys smashed against one mic? And the thing is, if you're watching on YouTube, you already know. But infamous Greg from Greg's Reads of the Week. My father is here with us. Hello Dad.

Speaker 3:

Hi, glad to be here.

Speaker 1:

So why don't you go ahead and give us some?

Speaker 2:

Some what.

Speaker 1:

Words.

Speaker 2:

Words, some words. You want some words from me. We're back again this week. Very exciting stuff. We had a busy week. I feel like you were really busy.

Speaker 1:

I was really, really busy.

Speaker 2:

Tell us what you were doing.

Speaker 1:

Working.

Speaker 2:

Working.

Speaker 1:

I feel like I it wasn't anything exciting. I just had a lot of uh like collaborations and filming and stuff that had to be approved and all the boring backend stuff of this job. But I, I mean I was busy like back to back to back, yeah. And then this week's really crazy because one of my very best friends is getting married this weekend.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I feel like you're doing more this week than you did like for our own wedding week. That's how it's supposed to be, okay? Okay, I was just joking.

Speaker 1:

You're not supposed to be busy at your own wedding. Well, I mean you're busy, but you're not supposed to have any work on your plate when you're the bride.

Speaker 2:

You're just stressed.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

But when you're not the bride, all of your friends should be doing lots of work to make sure that you are not stressed and that you are having fun and getting to be in the moment.

Speaker 2:

Okay, interesting, I wouldn't know.

Speaker 1:

Wouldn't you say Dad?

Speaker 3:

I would agree. I've never been a bride, but that sounds right.

Speaker 1:

I bet you would have been a beautiful bride. You would have been a beautiful bride, maybe no, uh, anyway, yeah, what about you?

Speaker 2:

Uh, I got super dirty. I changed the brakes on the car. I forgot, yeah, I made a way bigger mess than I ever need to. But that happens every time I do a brake job, cause I do them very infrequently. And so, uh, one, I sit there with YouTube the entire time not the entire time. It takes me like two and a half hours to do one side uh, because I'm watching YouTube over and over and over again, being very careful. And then the other side, I'm like, well, I remember how that went and so I try to do it as fast as I can. Um, and sometimes you accidentally disconnect a brake line and then all of the brake fluid pours out, and then you have a lot of brake fluid which is not super easy to clean up. Uh, just in terms of what a mess it is and uh, so I did that, but I I still think it got done faster on that side. I just had a lot more problems. So you were there, you were there for the bad one they were both both bad.

Speaker 1:

Just one was worse, whoa.

Speaker 2:

Whoa, the car stops. Like a dream now.

Speaker 1:

It does. You're right about that.

Speaker 2:

It worked.

Speaker 1:

I was also going to know. You know what else we haven't talked about on the pod. What, Matt Overby? What about?

Speaker 2:

Got the refrigerator in. Oh yeah, I drove to Kansas City. Yep, yep, I did do that, forgot. Wait, did we talk about that?

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

No, I wasn't sure. If we did, we went in on Tuesday. Yeah, I didn't know if we recorded it when I got back.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

No, okay, are you sure?

Speaker 1:

No, I think we, we were really tired.

Speaker 2:

I think we might have recorded.

Speaker 1:

I think we did record, but I don't think we talked about it because we hadn't tried to put the fridge in the Like.

Speaker 2:

We didn't tell the saga of oh, it was just in the car. Yeah, it was just that. I got up at 4.30 in the morning it was out of the car.

Speaker 1:

It was sitting in the pantry. Dad, how long do you think you've been hearing about this fridge?

Speaker 3:

A, it's a gorgeous fridge.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, picked it out myself two years ago or more.

Speaker 1:

Tell them about what happened though.

Speaker 2:

Oh, getting it in, got it. So in another failed DIY project we tried to put the fridge in, and so there's a cabinet hole that they made how people make spaces and cabinets for fridges. We gave them the dimensions it needed to be. It needed to be 73 inches tall. They cut the cabinet hole 73 inches tall, without accounting for the height of the floor. So it turns out the floor is, I don't know, three-eighths of an inch thick, so the hole is 72 and five-eighths, which is not tall enough for a 73-inch fridge. So we had to knock out the top of the cabinet face and then, yeah, yeah, we had to. It still needs to be reattached, but I guess that's my job this week, so stay tuned for how well that goes.

Speaker 1:

I think we've discussed many things that we could talk to dad about, and obviously a more prepared Matt and Joe would have asked you guys specific questions you were hoping to hear, but we didn't know we were going to have the glorious opportunity of having him on a mic today, and so I think dad you can correct me if I'm wrong that we could in fact have you back on at some point. Sure, should people have more questions, but I think we're going to kind of stick to talking and discussing a little bit today what it's been like transitioning into being a grandparent versus parenting and how it has been, I guess, transitioning which you've been doing this for quite some time, seeing as your oldest child is turning 40 this summer, I know, but transitioning from being a parent to an adolescent, to a child, to being a parent of an adult who is a parent themselves, I guess, would be the way to phrase it. Sure, did I nail that? I don't know? Matt's acting like I'm not even saying words.

Speaker 2:

No, you said a lot of words. Tons of them Too many In a row. I don't know. I have an inability to track long sentences. I tend to just grab the last piece of information, and so when it's like what do you think I'm like, uh-oh, what did you say?

Speaker 1:

And I have a tendency to say way too long of sentences.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's your thing. You like to have a lot of ideas put into one sentence. Run on baby. You're the run-on rambler. Oh, okay, the run, run on rambler.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay, the run on rambler. Okay, dad, give us the back story. You are a father to.

Speaker 3:

I am a father to three girls from 40 to what are you now? I'm 30. Yeah, and Shelby's 36? 37.

Speaker 1:

37?, 37. Oh, 37.

Speaker 3:

Oh, shelby, I gave you a year. Eight grandkids, three boys, five girls range from 15, the twins are 15, down to Rory.

Speaker 2:

Seriously crazy, it is wild. 15 to 1. It is wild 15 to 1.

Speaker 3:

So I would say, the starting out as a grandparent, though, was with the twins, and we were actually very young grandparents, and I remember your mother and I were in the store with the twins when they were little and Killian or Shaley one of the two were saying Grandpa, grandpa. It's like who in the hell are they talking to? And it took a long time to respond to that, so they didn't get the full benefit of the grandparents. I don't think that the other grandkids got in regard to that attention, and then, when I guess it would have been, emily and Kenley came around. That's when it really we were ready for that and, yeah, it's quite amazing. It's very different than being a parent. You get all the benefits of being a parent without the responsibility you can send them home.

Speaker 1:

What ways do you think it's different other than I mean? That's one of them. I think a lot of it is based on.

Speaker 3:

You know, when you're a parent, you're young, you have so much you're balancing in a career and in life and all those stressors of am I doing this right, Am I doing that right, and a lot of free form, I think, is a good way to put it for me. And then, as a grandparent, you're so much more deliberate for me anyway, I can't speak for your mom, but for me I find myself much more deliberate, much more focused and enjoying the experience and I think I didn't have a lot of breaks when you guys were growing up in my career, so I didn't get to unwind and you guys' benefit from that was probably a big one for me. That I've recognized as I've gotten older.

Speaker 1:

I am curious to hear what the difference has been, because obviously there is. I'm trying to think of how old the twins were. So the twins would have been 12. So there's a 12 year gap between when your first daughter became a parent versus me. Like what's the difference been in terms of like an entire decade difference? Does that make sense what I'm saying? Wow.

Speaker 3:

Have you evolved? Yeah, that's probably a better question for you, but for me, how I feel like I've evolved is because I have been retired since, you know, long before Gardner and Rory came along. So I think I'm a much more mellow individual myself and, uh, much more attentive. I think I have a. I did this with you all as as kids. Your mom was really good at it as far as being deliberate as well, I remember. I'll tell you these. You've heard this story. I'll tell these guys a story. I was on a plane one time and my kids weren't talking to me. They were at that age, all girls, and it's mom and daughters.

Speaker 1:

What story are you going to tell?

Speaker 3:

And yeah, yeah, it was a disaster, but I'm glad I Anyway. So they're at that age where it's difficult to relate to girls for a dad for me anyway and my wife Catherine said well, if you want to relate to them, you need to read what they're reading and everything. And I'm like, well, what do they read?

Speaker 1:

The internet was not.

Speaker 3:

No, the internet was not a thing then, yeah, so I couldn't do that, and so, anyway, she told me what to read, and so I was traveling and I was on a plane. Actually, we stopped at the airport and I got a couple magazines that I was told to get, and I got on the plane.

Speaker 3:

I actually got upgraded to first class, thank goodness, because there weren't as many people around to see me is why I say that and I pull out this magazine and this lady next to me just kind of looked at me and kind of scooted away and I'm like you know, and the guy on the other side of the aisle looks at me and he gives me this strange look and I'm getting up and so, anyway, we get up in the air and I'm reading this and I know the people sitting next to me realized the moment that I realized what I was reading, because my face turned red and I shut the cover and I looked at the lady next to me. I said I am so sorry, I had no idea what's in these magazines. My wife told me if I wanted. I told her the whole story and she started laughing. The guy next to me started laughing. Anyway, I was reading Teen Cosmo and Teen Vogue and they're very graphic for what I felt were my age kids. So it was pretty humiliating but I understood them better.

Speaker 1:

That's really funny, honestly. I had a subscription to Cosmo Teen. They don't make that anymore. That's really funny, honestly. I had a subscription to Cosmo Teen.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I remember that they don't make that anymore. After that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Oh, there you go.

Speaker 1:

I think so, because I think I was pretty little when that happened.

Speaker 3:

You were yeah.

Speaker 1:

I wasn't pre-teenage yet.

Speaker 2:

Gotcha, it was your older sisters, yeah, and so it's like the 90s. Okay, way back in the 90s way back.

Speaker 1:

I wasn't a teenager till the mid 2000s. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense, but I, I loved the magazines.

Speaker 3:

So, going back, that's. Those are the things that I would do to try to relate to to my kids and and a very different experience than grandkids. Um, you have the internet now. I do a lot of research on the internet with the kids and relational, try to keep up to date on the interest of each of the grandkids and bring that up to them and just have an individual relationship with each one of them. It's really hard to do with eight kids in the very interest.

Speaker 1:

You have a lot of grandkids to be trying to do that.

Speaker 3:

But it's great. It's a very different thing when you're a parent. It's not that you don't do it when you're a parent, it's just that when you do it as a parent or as a grandparent, it just seems to carry a completely different weight. It's more relaxed and such. And again, I think it goes back to how much. Look at how much you have on your plates. It's phenomenal how much you have on your plates when you're raising kids, starting careers and in that time of your life. And I don't think I'm really finding my groove in retirement in this time, but I will.

Speaker 1:

I think that's a generational, not that other people like, not that our generation won't struggle with it, but I feel like there's a lot of identity within your generation when it comes to work, and I feel like my generation has been. And, matt, what do you think Like? I don't think our generation's as tied to our career, as being like a pillar of who we are.

Speaker 2:

No, yeah, there's definitely a lot more mobility in careers these days. A lot more movement a lot more, yeah, and a lot of people change careers, I think more than used to be the case. So, yeah, definitely more fluid. There's also a lot less periodicals to read. I don't know that kids are reading a lot of magazines. I don't even know how many are even published anymore.

Speaker 1:

I think Teen Vogue is now canceled, cosmo Teens canceled. I know Cosmopolitan still happens.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's a lot of things that I think had magazines once a week that are once a month, once a quarter now.

Speaker 3:

But you can feed on it daily now though.

Speaker 2:

Yes, exactly that's a lot of reading for someone our age also.

Speaker 1:

You say that, but we take in so much.

Speaker 2:

Video content.

Speaker 1:

Well, I know, but I think we take in a lot of news and stuff, I guess. Do you think it's all video?

Speaker 2:

It's broken up into very digestible amounts. I think the attention span for long pieces of very now books. Books are popular now, so kind of goes against the point. But it's all one thing, whereas like a magazine is a hundred different things yeah, I had an entire.

Speaker 1:

You know what dad actually now as an, it kind of blows my mind thinking back that you let me do like literally whatever I wanted to my room as a kid.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that's true.

Speaker 1:

Because I feel like you're pretty rigid, Like not necessarily. No, I don't think that's an insult. I feel like you're really rigid.

Speaker 2:

I'm very rigid.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like it's just like you have things the way you want them to be and you have no problem communicating that. But the space that I was always allowed within our home, like my room, I could kind of do within reason, like don't destroy it, but I was allowed to kind of do whatever I wanted. And the reason I'm bringing this up is because I had an entire wall in my bedroom that was Cosmo covers.

Speaker 3:

I do remember that. Yes, and all the Cosmos stacked up in your closet, uh-huh.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I do remember that You'd think that I'd be cooler. I don't know that they made you cool by default yeah.

Speaker 3:

You had a pretty cool room, you know.

Speaker 2:

I did Purple ceiling.

Speaker 3:

Purple walls different colors.

Speaker 1:

And when I say purple, it's a very different kind of purple.

Speaker 3:

Wait tell the story of my bedroom. I don't know what's the story of your bedroom.

Speaker 1:

You guys surprised me.

Speaker 3:

Oh, oh yeah. Well, no, your mother surprised you, I just did the work. Okay well, yeah, I can't remember where you were. You were somewhere.

Speaker 1:

I went to camp.

Speaker 3:

There you went. You went to and you wanted your room special, or I don't remember the conversation you and your mom had Well, I still had my babyhood room.

Speaker 1:

It still had the. It had been hand-painted, it was beautiful and I'm not six anymore, something like that. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Isn't it time to? Yeah, I was 13, okay. Yes.

Speaker 1:

I needed the. Actually, I don't think I. I think I was 11.

Speaker 3:

I don't think I. I think I was 11.

Speaker 1:

I don't remember, I was 11.

Speaker 3:

I needed the real deal. I know we worked tirelessly.

Speaker 1:

I don't know you. Well, we'll get there. You worked tirelessly. I went to camp. I was gone for two weeks.

Speaker 3:

But there's a story behind this, though is that I really didn't want to dig into it and your mother went in to start doing it and she cannot paint and she knew that that would get me going, and so I have the same method. Yes, okay, I'll get it done, and so we did. We worked very hard to get it done the ceiling, the walls and it. It's still that way today because people like it that way and um it was color drenching before.

Speaker 1:

color drenching was in. Yeah, yeah, it was that's really popular right now. I don't have a clue Color drenching where you do the entire room, ceiling, doors, trim everything the same color.

Speaker 3:

Or in the same palette. It wasn't quite that radical yeah.

Speaker 2:

It looked good, it was close. You picked quite the color also.

Speaker 1:

I didn't pick it.

Speaker 2:

No, I didn't pick it.

Speaker 1:

No I didn't pick anything about it.

Speaker 2:

Oh no, mom and I did Total surprise.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, it was a complete surprise, and it was. I had a lime green bedspread, I had an orange chair and then the big yellow sign with the purple Volkswagen on it that said Beetle X-ing, which I still don't necessarily understand, but it was cool. It was cool.

Speaker 3:

You got the Beetle X-ing because it came from work and it was just a cool sign that went with your room.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was awesome.

Speaker 2:

They got the sign and then they got the paint to match.

Speaker 1:

Probably.

Speaker 3:

Don't forget the octopus light that you had in the corner with all that you could.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, I had the bendy light.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 3:

Those were rad.

Speaker 1:

Now I'm going to kick it forward a few years, when Matt and I met and I went to his house for the first time. Matt had a really cool room. Wait, oh, my room that I had for like a year before I moved out, I didn't know that it was the only room I ever knew you in.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Well, I mean, what do you mean? Really cool.

Speaker 1:

It was really cool.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I feel like it was completely undecorated, which was kind of my style.

Speaker 1:

But you had those. I think the doors really set it off.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was just an unfinished closet that we covered with paper slider doors. It was just an unfinished closet that we covered with paper slider doors. They were very Japanese in aesthetic really, but it was basically just a way that we could cover the unfinished closet down there.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, I guess that really Well, 16-year-old me saw those and was like okay, well, what is this? The Ritz?

Speaker 2:

His room is a dojo Super cool, yeah, no, yeah, I didn't decorate anything.

Speaker 1:

Well, and you had the cool bathroom.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yep, yep, we did have a.

Speaker 1:

The sinks are like outside of the. I don't know. Can you explain?

Speaker 2:

I don't think it's quite as cool as you think it is. So I'm having to really think about why it was cool. No, we had our toilet and shower tub combo were in one room and then outside of that we had the double vanity for me and my brother.

Speaker 1:

And you could walk through your closet to get to the vanity.

Speaker 2:

Yep, yep, that's all true.

Speaker 1:

Or not. But then the funny part was Braden's room his brother's room was the size of an actual shoebox.

Speaker 2:

Mine was inordinately big, it was really long. It's kind of like our room now, I mean a little smaller than this room, but not that far off. And then Braden's room was about the size of a king bed and he put a queen bed in it and so it had about don't know it didn't have room for a side table. It had like two foot walkways all around it yeah, and he.

Speaker 1:

He used the windowsill as his bedside table and his closet was outside of his room yep and when you left your parents like well, you can move into that other room if you want. And he liked his little cave.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, he was a cave dweller. Yeah, no, mine was odd. I had a window, though we had to cut a window in just for safety Because, you know, we were in the basement, so if there was a fire I needed a way to get out.

Speaker 1:

And what did you fill your window well, with needed a way to get out.

Speaker 2:

And what did you fill your window? Well, with we. So we would. Okay this is, um, trying to think of the best context for this story we would go to Krispy Kreme and we would get into where the dumpster was because they would throw I mean, thousands of donuts away, and so they would be giant trash bags full of old donuts. Some of them were boxed, Some of them were just ones they weren't going to sell at the store, so some were in box, Some were balls of dough, so you really didn't know what you were going to get inside of the giant plastic bags. But we would just go grab a couple of those out of the dumpster at Krispy Kreme and you'd you know, maybe you'd eat one.

Speaker 2:

And then we would throw a bunch of them out of the.

Speaker 1:

I didn't know you ate them.

Speaker 2:

Does that surprise you in any way? Kind of Knowing me.

Speaker 1:

That's gross. I don't think it does. Somebody just dared you to do it, didn't they?

Speaker 2:

No, I probably just wanted to eat a donut, if we're being honest. No, so we would go get I don't know hundreds of donuts, and then we would stand out of the moonroof, sunroof and throw them out at signs which I mean, like is relatively harmless we were feeding animals, and donuts aren't going to do a lot of damage to property. So we were doing this in a pretty rural area for the most part. So I don't know what crime that would be, but I think it's minor. Vandalism.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, I feel like you might technically be right, but that's really a weak vandalism charge Anyway. So at the end of the night we had not thrown all of the Trespassing and theft. We were in our car. We weren't trespassing on anything. It's a public road.

Speaker 1:

Not the dumpster with the donuts in it.

Speaker 2:

Well, yes, that would be trespassing and some form of misdemeanor theft. I don't know the value of expired donuts.

Speaker 1:

Okay, but if you're wondering, why did you just tell this story?

Speaker 2:

So, at the end of the night, we had a few hundred donuts that we hadn't used in plastic bags, and this was my senior year of high school and this was the middle of the winter. And so I just took the giant plastic bags, cause we didn't really know what to do with them, uh, and I dropped them into my window. Well cause I had a room in the basement and so, uh, that's where they stayed for the next 18 months. And then my dad was like, uh, he was cleaning leaves out of the window. Well, cause, I'd forgotten about him. Uh, which isn't surprising at all. The next day, I'm sure I didn't even remember they were there, but we had two giant trash bags full of donuts outside my window. And then my dad called me middle of my freshman year of college and was like, hey, what's up with all of these donuts in these bags? And I was like, oh, wow, I've totally forgot about those. Turns out, I don't think it was even that gross. It seemed like they were relatively well preserved inside the bags.

Speaker 3:

Kind of like a McDonald's french fry.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think it's a very similar concept. But yeah, it must be the sugar that kept them. I don't know. I don't know. I expected it to be that he had to deal with two giant trash bags of mush, but I think he said they were pretty intact as far as year-and-a-half-old donuts go. Anyway, that's my donut story. That's what you were looking for, right?

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm. Okay, great, dad has good stories from when he was a kid too, he did.

Speaker 2:

Hey, those crimes were much more significant, but not back then, I guess.

Speaker 1:

No, that's the thing. I feel like our kids are going to hear the donut story and they're going to be like we could never do that now.

Speaker 2:

Today you probably would go to jail for the donut crime, but the donut crime was minor compared to what your dad and my dad did growing up. It was a different world then yes, it was.

Speaker 1:

Dad, have you ever been in a physical altercation?

Speaker 3:

I have A few.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I don't think that happens anymore. Well, I shouldn't say, that doesn't happen anymore, that's not what I mean.

Speaker 3:

I was a really little guy when I was younger, though I mean in high school, and that was when I would have, and so I didn't have a chance. If somebody wanted to hit me back, they just didn't hit me back. I'm sure they felt bad for me. It's like you know, I can't hit this guy. It was in a pretty good position, if you think about it, because as a little guy hitting a big guy, you know they have a choice to make. They can hit you and destroy you and really look like a jerk, or they can walk away and, thankfully, most of them walked away.

Speaker 1:

We were just talking about this not that long ago. It's like I know very few people that have gotten into a physical fight well, who are you talking to? I don't know people just people yeah, got it. Is it because we don't live in a small like our? Is physical fighting like a small town thing? I don don't mean like a planned, like we're fighting in a ring. No, I mean like people lost their temper and got into a physical altercation, maybe we just hang around a pretty level-headed

Speaker 2:

crowd. We might just not attract violent people.

Speaker 1:

I just don't know that that's true. No.

Speaker 3:

I think we have a lot of violent people around For me it was more about just the high school stuff back in that day and it wasn't like you got in a physical, like there were fights, but I never got any kind of altercation like that. It was more of that senior hitting you in the arm on the way by and then turn around hitting him back, and then he's twice your size and you're just like, okay, is he going to hit me again?

Speaker 1:

Wait, describe the dynamics of where you grew up, dad.

Speaker 3:

The dynamics your mother and I grew up both we didn't know each other growing up, but she was in Iowa, I was Nebraska, and we were in the tri-state area where South Dakota, Iowa, Nebraska come together and I would call it very much. While we were in the city you were still rural-based. Everything going on in the community was very rural-based, even though you're in a small city. So you had the dynamics of growing up in high school where at the time one state was one age for drinking age, one was another and so on. So you went from 18 to 19 to I think it was 21. And the point alcohol content of the beer was different in the states as well.

Speaker 3:

So it was just an odd time and rival schools from three different states and such, but it was fairly chill but much more accepting of the crazy things kids do at that age than today. You could never get away with what we got away back then. But then it wasn't violence back then, like you see today where people so quickly go to that. It was more of I don't want to say kids being kids, but that's kind of what it was. And yeah, you knew all the policemen Well, not everybody, but some of us knew all the policemen and we didn't do anything that would hurt property or people or anything like that. You were just doing things that kids do at that age.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like donuts, like donuts, yeah, and you didn't have an internet to put on no we did not have internet. That would have been bad. The burden of proof was significantly higher.

Speaker 3:

Yes. I didn't think about that, but back then you told people what you did, because that was the only way. It was like what did?

Speaker 1:

you do this weekend. Did you guys hang out in parking lots?

Speaker 3:

Actually, that's when your mother and I first met. We would go to a church parking lot and throw the Frisbee. Turn the music on and throw the frisbee.

Speaker 1:

Because that's the thing that I remember when we were in high school. Did the Nixa kids hang out in parking lots? Taco Bell Ah, ours was Price Cutter. I didn't get invited, I wasn't cool enough to hang out at Price Cutter, but I knew everyone was there.

Speaker 2:

We would just eat at Taco Bell occasionally. We weren't doing a lot of hanging out there.

Speaker 3:

Oh.

Speaker 2:

That wasn't really our crowd, but we would go to Taco Bell.

Speaker 1:

That's the first time you got pulled over right.

Speaker 2:

Yep, that was, I don't know, two months after I got my license. Was it even that long had to be, because I got my license in the summer and it was during school, so it had to be a few months. But yeah, we went to Taco Bell, I was driving, I, we went to Taco Bell, I was driving, I pulled out and then I'm 100% certain I was pulled over just because it was like 1030 at night and I was pulling out of Taco Bell but turned out cop. I saw there was a cop coming but I had plenty of room, so I turned out. He pulled me over.

Speaker 2:

He's like do you know why I pulled you over? And I was like I really have no idea. And he said I had to tap my brakes, otherwise I could have run into you. And I was like I don't, even at the time being my first pull, I was like I don't think that sounds right at all in terms of reasonable cause to pull someone over, but it was enough. So, again, I think he was just trying to make sure I wasn't drunk or high, which is a real problem at Taco Bell, for sure in the middle of the night. But yeah, that was my first pullover experience.

Speaker 1:

Dad. Is it weird, having known us well, knowing me my whole life, but knowing Matt since he was 16, and now he's an adult and a dad, and do you still think he's 16 in your head? No Do you still think I'm a toddler.

Speaker 4:

No, no he you still think I'm a toddler? No, no, he's only 22.

Speaker 3:

You know, I think back when we were your age and starting out, and it's very similar. You know the things you go to and you evolve and you just make different choices and, as you know, we talk a lot about it the generational differences. Things have changed so much, you know, with talk a lot about it, the generational differences. Things have changed so much with Internet and accessibility to just all kinds of online things. How everybody lives their lives today is very different. Things are polarized today. They weren't so polarized as I recall back then, or at least I didn't notice. It didn't matter to me. They may have been.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, so yeah no, I think you guys do a great job. I watched a really good video last night about how the reason things are so like there seems like there are so many more crazy thought processes out there now is it was talking about how, before the internet, you would live in a town and then there would be steven the crazy guy who thought the the earth was flat and like the moon's made of cheese, and you know, he's like talking about all this and he's like the problem is now we have the internet and so everybody just used to be like, yeah, steven's crazy, isn't he? And that was just the town crazy guy. And then now they have the internet, so Stephen is finding all of the Stephens from all of the towns, and now they've all come together and are even more positive that the moon is made of cheese.

Speaker 2:

There's like the Stephen subreddit. Yeah, they're all on there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Sharing their amazing ideas.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah for sure. And so that is interesting culturally how that's shifting.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, progress, I guess right.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, and you can just let anybody on a mic nowadays too.

Speaker 2:

Yep, and they can just release like 75 podcast episodes. For you know, fun Bad dad mean mom, Bad bad dad mean mom.

Speaker 1:

Bad dad mean mom. It's been a challenging week, our toddlers perfect this week.

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean, I don't know we did a perfect job, but kids, you know they are um. No, toddlers been very anti. I don't know anything. Everything, how would you describe it?

Speaker 1:

Overstimulated.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, pretty regularly. So it's made moving in a unified direction difficult. So we have to you know if we're trying to get to bed, if we're trying to get in the car, okay, but you're talking about toddler.

Speaker 1:

What did bad dad do with?

Speaker 2:

that I mean bad dad has not handled it perfectly. Somewhere around 4 am one night on, I think our fifth come into our room and then say that you want to sleep in your bed, which is where you came from. Say that you want to sleep in your bed, which is where you came from. About the fourth or fifth time. I was really not nicely discussing the logic of that statement and it wasn't helping. So mom had to jump in and be like all right, you probably are tired enough to go to sleep and I, you know, talk to our kid instead of you now.

Speaker 1:

So you really? Yeah, I don't struggle with like logic, not logic game, cause that's how my brain is, like I think I have about the capacity of a toddler, so it really vibes with me, whereas you are like it's just so easy, kid.

Speaker 2:

Well, I just try to point out that if you want to sleep in your bed, you actually started there and so you ran to our room, didn't want to get in our bed, but asked me to bring you back to your bed, which I did three times with relatively little debate. But fourth or fifth time was where I was like I'm not going to keep doing this all night.

Speaker 1:

Mean Mom ended up turning into a big win for me this week. Mean Mom went out and demolished all of the chalk drawings. Oh, I demolished all of the chalk drawings. Oh, Because one of our babysitters let G draw where it's a covered patio so it wasn't going to get rained on and I wanted to clean it before because I knew that Papa and Emma were coming and that my mom's chair was going to roll over the chalk drawings. So I went out without asking and just started demolishing her art. But it ended up turning into a big win because I was like this is part of the game Like grab your watering can.

Speaker 2:

Let's like get after it and then it was fun. She was devastated for a while.

Speaker 1:

Not even for a while. Like at first, she's like what's happening? And I said, well, this is the best part, go get a watering can. And she was like, oh, I can help. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2:

She will do almost anything to help.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

She just occasionally tries to go above her pay grade, like when I was changing the brakes. Oh yeah, which is why she had to go to the park during the break job. Yeah hey, in a few years I'll have her do one side and I'll do the other side.

Speaker 1:

I helped dad with the car when I was a kid.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you did. It's not that complicated.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, with the. Jeep.

Speaker 3:

What.

Speaker 1:

I don't know taking the top on and off. You did. Yeah, they fit underneath way easier too.

Speaker 3:

I could never get any of you to work on cars with me.

Speaker 1:

I'd hand you tools when you were putting the lift kit in.

Speaker 3:

And you hated every minute of it.

Speaker 1:

I don't know that that's true.

Speaker 3:

No. I was just anxious, I have this dream that one of my grandkids are going to want to build a car with me, because none of my kids did.

Speaker 1:

I think I just really wanted to do everything right, and so anytime I messed up I felt really bad.

Speaker 2:

Hey, G loves building things.

Speaker 3:

I was going to say G should be a lot of fun.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she loves tools, she loves building, she loves helping and she likes cars, so it's promising so far.

Speaker 3:

We'll see how it ends up. Well, we were talking about cars yesterday and she wants a pink car when she's old enough and we're going to build it. I'm hoping that she changes from the pink before we do. Maybe you can do like a stripe, Maybe you can pink and stripe it or something. There you go.

Speaker 2:

I like that. Or, you know, some minor piece of the interior can be pink. You can probably avoid. Uh, she has has. She loves all colors, though.

Speaker 2:

Uh, speaking again is another bad dad moment, which went a little better last night with bedtime, but, um, I was. I was trying. She wants me to stay in the room, but as long as I'm in the room, she tries to talk to me and avoids going to sleep. So it's a paradoxical situation where I have to find a way to get out of the room. But every time I get to the door she goes Mont, hey, mont, question, question. And I'll go one more question and she goes okay, and then I'll come back. I'll listen to the question.

Speaker 2:

The last 15 questions last night were all related to what color her birthday presents could be and then what color the things inside of them could be. Uh, and I was like you can have any color you want to wrap them in and the things inside of them can be any color you want. Like she's like what about red? Like, yep, you can have red. Okay, all right, no more questions. Question what about blue? What about pink? Uh, and I wish I remember exactly what she wanted in them, because I was going to tell you that we need to get, like I don't know, 12 different colors of I remember if it was dinosaurs, uh, and then they all need to go into different colored boxes.

Speaker 1:

I think that she's thinking her birthday is bigger than it is.

Speaker 2:

I think we could just get boxes.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah, like the unwrapping is the gift.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think she just wants to see presents. I think it's similar to Easter eggs.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Okay, well, we're going to jump into Greg's Reads of the Week. Got it? Greg's Reads of the Week? This is Greg. Yeah, this is Greg here with us, but Greg is my dad and he likes to read lots of news and he likes to send us those articles when they make him think of us, which is very sweet, and we like to rank them based on the headline, on a scale of one to five, on how much anxiety the headline gives us. And this is fun because we're going to be able to rate them and then have Dad's real-time explanation. Yeah, okay, number one Redemption Exactly the difference between a family room and a living room, plus designer tips for styling them.

Speaker 2:

That doesn't give me any anxiety at all Me either.

Speaker 1:

I like it. What were your thoughts in sending us this Dad?

Speaker 3:

I saw it, I read it. I didn't know there was a difference between a living room and a family room. One was in one part of your house and one was in another.

Speaker 1:

And I thought you would like it. It's funny because we had a living room and a family room in our house growing up.

Speaker 3:

We did, and what I surmised from that article is one has entertainment in it and the other one's kind of formal and stiff. You know, kind of why do you have the room if you're not going to be in there? Ours are attached we have no barrier between you, have you have the ultimate family living combo room right all the way down the middle and when it's full, it's full and it's awesome, right, yeah?

Speaker 2:

yeah, we end up just moving the the living room furniture to the family room. When a lot of people come, that tends to be what happens. Yeah, we end up with like two rows of couches. Yeah, it works really well for us, though, it's worked really well, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Okay, article number two, six money moves the rich make to stay rich Like a three.

Speaker 2:

Two, two and a half.

Speaker 1:

I don't like the word rich. The word rich is triggering to me.

Speaker 2:

Money moves. I don't know how I feel about that one.

Speaker 3:

Money moves. Well, if you read that article it's you know I read a lot of financial stuff. I just look at the content, that when I'm going through the content I think, oh, this might be something they're interested in. And I'm with you on the rich thing and I think it says in that article actually that rich is a state of mind. It doesn't have to be monetary, which I think is a great way to look at it, and it's how you approach life and such and what you fulfill in life. If that's the one that I'm thinking it is.

Speaker 1:

I'm assuming.

Speaker 2:

It said avoid get-rich-quick schemes. I saw that one on there. Multiple streams of income, some stuff like that.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that's not the one I thought it was. This seemed like practical tips. Yes, that's common sense stuff.

Speaker 1:

But this might be the one you're thinking of, Dad. Warren Buffett shares his 18 best tips for retiring from a lifetime of investing Like a four out of five.

Speaker 3:

Really.

Speaker 1:

Anything that says retirement, lifetime investing. Why we have a lot of buzzwords for me.

Speaker 3:

You know, he's just very prolific and simple when he speaks is why I like some of the stuff that he has Not everything, but they're just common sense points and I think you grew up with all this stuff so you understand it, and so when I send that stuff out, it's just a lot of times validation that, hey, you guys are looking at life right. It's not just about a monetary thing.

Speaker 1:

I do know that you send a lot of things for that reason.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

What are you doing?

Speaker 2:

You want to read that one Sure, Jaspreet Singh says these 15 money mistakes are why Americans are broke.

Speaker 1:

That does not stress me out as much.

Speaker 2:

Oh, interesting, that was like a four out of five for me, oh really Okay.

Speaker 1:

That's like a one and a half out of five for me.

Speaker 2:

I mean I see 15 money mistakes and Americans are broke in there, so that's not ideal.

Speaker 1:

To me, those are just like facts though, just ideas.

Speaker 2:

That's just a concept.

Speaker 1:

It doesn't feel like it's about me specific, like it doesn't feel like it's as much about my actions.

Speaker 2:

You know you don't read it as like here's 15 things you are probably doing wrong.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, I don't.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

Cause, like in my head, I'm aware that we're in a really bad economic season as a country.

Speaker 2:

Sure, sure, and that we're making at least 15 mistakes, right.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I think that one's actually a very good one because it's again common sense, and I think that one is one where, if you think about it, goes back to generational is one where, if you think about it, goes back to generational. In my time, when we were your age, we couldn't get loans or build the kind of debt you are able to today, even if we wanted to, for a lot of reasons, whether they are right or wrong. But there are a lot of vehicles that you can use to leverage yourself, to have a lifestyle that you want to have, but a lot of times people don't get the education that it's great until you have to start paying it all back and that's a harsh reality when you aren't aware how that happens and how quickly interest can build and such and put you into those long-term problems. Yeah, so that's why I thought that was a good one.

Speaker 1:

Do we want to hop into some voicemails?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, let's voicemail it up, Okay.

Speaker 1:

Okay, wait, do you have a word of the week before we go into voicemails? I can find one right now. Word of the week.

Speaker 2:

Do you know what an interloper is?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you do. Isn't that like space? No, oh, okay.

Speaker 2:

Someone who intrudes on the privacy or property of another without permission, which I guess could technically like if you own something in space, you could have an interloper.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm going to say that that's absolutely not right.

Speaker 2:

This is more along the lines of like someone who gets a bunch of donuts out of the dumpster at Krispy Kreme would probably be considered an interloper.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay, so you're an interloper. I've dabbled, okay, dabbled, no, I didn't know what interloper meant. Okay, well, that's the word of the week. Is that I? I don't know about that. I don't like that. I want it to be about outer space you're thinking of like interstellar? Yeah, I think I just yeah, maybe which is like between the stars Right. So to me like loper. I was like oh, maybe that means they're like walking through outer space. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah Again, interstellar is something, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Well, you could be an interloper on the cheese planet. You know, if you visited the moon For sure.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no Again you can be an interloper in space, but it has nothing to do with space directly.

Speaker 1:

Okay. You're thinking maybe an astroloper, which I don't believe is a word, but would make more sense. We have a lot of voice messages this week.

Speaker 2:

Well, which lucky ones will get Greg's advice?

Speaker 1:

I know, are you ready Dad, I'm ready.

Speaker 3:

I don't know if they want my advice.

Speaker 6:

We'll find out. Hi, this is Hannah from Minnesota. I have a few things. One, I said it once and I'll say it again Please do a meet and greet in Minnesota. I wouldn't be the only one Even if I was, though, we'd be the best of friends. Two Joe, love your ASMR with a can. I love it because it takes about 10 seconds, and that's as much ASMR as I can tolerate, so keep doing it. You're amazing. Three fun question If you had $100,000 to spend and you couldn't save it or invest it, you had to spend it. What would you spend it? On? Me personally, I would buy my husband's dad's GTO. He passed away a few years ago and it's a really special car and I buy it back from his uncle and I'd love to do that for him. Thanks, keep doing what you're doing.

Speaker 2:

I love that question, smart to keep in the family your $100,000.

Speaker 3:

Dad what would you buy? What would I buy? You know I'm not good at this. I can have the money and it won't get spent.

Speaker 2:

Right, but you have to. Yeah, it's a requirement.

Speaker 3:

It's a good exercise. Probably today I would probably donate it to the Medicare Advocacy Group.

Speaker 1:

Lame. That's a terrible answer.

Speaker 3:

It's an awesome one.

Speaker 2:

They're doing a lot of great things Not what people want to hear.

Speaker 1:

No, that's really kind. Yeah, that's not the direction I was going at all.

Speaker 3:

All right, okay if I were going to do that and I can't remember the caller's name, I loved her voice and I love Minnesota would be my GT. But I don't think $100,000 is going to get me to my GT my Ford GT.

Speaker 2:

It's been totaled, I don't know, salvaged.

Speaker 3:

And that's what you're going to rebuild 25 years ago, I could have gotten it for.

Speaker 2:

Well, you could have gotten an operational one, but you can maybe get a salvage one now.

Speaker 3:

I love her idea, though I would go that route of some sort.

Speaker 1:

What would you get, Matt?

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's a great question. Just motorcycles for the whole family? No, you wouldn't. No, okay, that's an ongoing joke of mine.

Speaker 1:

It's not funny, it is funny. It's a little funny.

Speaker 2:

I used to like at a certain dollar amount. I would just compare it to used motorcycles Buying. It was like five, six thousand. I was like you can buy a used motorcycle for that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's not a great way to spend it it doesn't have to be a great way, it's just how you'd want to. But I don't believe you that motorcycles Like, realistically, how would I spend it? Yeah?

Speaker 2:

We would probably just put it like against the house, but not against the house, like on a bag, like we would, you know our home loan.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, okay, you know what I would do.

Speaker 2:

What would you do?

Speaker 3:

Landsca would do. What would you do landscaping? Oh, that's a great call. Yeah, maybe a pool. You called me out for being lame and his was more lame than mine.

Speaker 2:

No, mine was just selfish, yours was selfless and, yeah, the selflessness was like oh, okay, well, now we can't talk about anything. Yeah, now yours has gone high road on us no, that was good, that was really nice.

Speaker 1:

Dad, yeah, um, but I would landscaping, that's a great call.

Speaker 2:

Now that you say that, pool, pool would be cool too I don't think that that's gonna cover there is a real concern that the, the pool that you want to build, may that may only be a not even down payment on the pool dad.

Speaker 1:

Have you priced pools lately?

Speaker 3:

I don't know, but I think I would call that negative debt, not positive debt.

Speaker 2:

Pools are an asset, for sure. It's an appreciating asset class, everybody knows, just like cars. Cars are an appreciating asset, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Pools are it's like.

Speaker 2:

Although in this case that GTO might actually be an appreciating asset.

Speaker 3:

Yes definitely.

Speaker 1:

Like they're like crazy. They are really expensive. I don't like it kind of makes me not want one because it just seems excessive, we'll just DIY it.

Speaker 3:

Build a pond, it'll be cheaper.

Speaker 1:

I don't know. I've also priced that and it's also unhinged.

Speaker 2:

Ooh, what if we just buy dirt work equipment and we just do it all? We buy a mix like a concrete mixer.

Speaker 1:

Again, we buy the dirt. I don't think you.

Speaker 2:

We start a pool company with $100,000. No experience. We hire somebody that knows how to build pools. This is it. We did it. This is a really good idea. I've had a lot of good ideas here.

Speaker 3:

Well, they're both depreciating assets, so you're money ahead, well, but we're making them for other people, you know what I lied.

Speaker 1:

If I had $100,000 I had to spend, I would buy.

Speaker 2:

Dad a Bobcat? Are they even that expensive? I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I would buy the Bobcat and then I would buy all the landscaping supplies because I know my dad is just desperate to move some dirt around.

Speaker 2:

Good news.

Speaker 1:

I can do that.

Speaker 2:

SaferWholesalecom is $8,500. You can buy a 2022, bobcat T870 for $8,750. I'm getting him that one, ooh primo.

Speaker 1:

And then I'm buying $13,000 of dirt.

Speaker 2:

They're all over eBay for here's like an actual front-end loader. That's $95,900. And we know Matt can do the brakes.

Speaker 3:

If anything goes wrong, he can maintain it.

Speaker 1:

Matt's got the brakes on lock.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Might have to get some different sized tools. Yeah, Without tax you could buy this actual, you know loader. Looks like new.

Speaker 1:

That's a big piece of equipment.

Speaker 2:

That's huge.

Speaker 1:

It's way bigger than we need. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2:

That would destroy our yard. Yeah, what yard we have.

Speaker 1:

All right, another voicemail. I liked that question, that's with the HVAC cab.

Speaker 2:

so it's air conditioned Good news, guys. Comfortable.

Speaker 3:

I can work longer. Yeah, Hi guys.

Speaker 4:

I just work longer.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, hi guys, I just finished listening to you guys talk about shoes in or out of the house, um, and different solutions on that, and then talking about matt's feet versus joe's feet, um, and I wanted to let you guys know that, joe, because you walk around barefoot, um, you know it really does strengthen, like there's little muscles inside your feet called the intrinsic muscles.

Speaker 4:

By strengthening them, you can support your arch and your foot much better than somebody who always wears shoes. There's definitely an argument to be made for both, but if you're barefoot all of the time, then by building up those muscles, you'll be less affected, whereas if you wear shoes all the time, especially since a lot of our modern shoes have very small toe boxes, it doesn't allow your toes to like splay correctly, and so then your feet end up weaker. And then when you combine that with the fact that Matt said he has really high arches, it can put a lot of tension on the tendons and aponeurosis of the bottom of the foot, which can then lead to pain and titer fasciitis. So the point being, both of your points are valid and both of your points are real, and it really just depends on a lot of other extenuating factors why one does or doesn't have pain and the habits that are created with that.

Speaker 1:

That's. I don't know who you are, I don't know what your education is. But that was fascinating yeah.

Speaker 3:

She'd be a great marriage counselor.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she would. Do you have high arches? Yes, she would, you're not wrong.

Speaker 3:

I do.

Speaker 1:

Okay, do I get mine from you? Does mom also have high arches? Okay, you're not wrong, I do. Okay, do I get mine from you? Does mom?

Speaker 3:

also have high arches. Okay, you and your mom have very tiny feet.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we do. Tiny feet with small arches is not necessarily like a nice.

Speaker 1:

Well, but I have really wide feet, because when she was talking about the toe boxes of modern shoes, it made me think about the fact that I always buy wide shoes because of how wide my feet are, so I don't feel like my toes are constricted.

Speaker 2:

So maybe I just have, like, really built up a lot of I have narrow feet, so that's usually not a huge problem for me, although I do know like definitely sometimes it's important to like actually get your feet and your toes stretched out if they're compressed all the time. But yeah, I just have like very painful feet, I think Apparently they're weak.

Speaker 1:

Well, and you also destroyed your toe at our wedding.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, that popped up after I did the breaks. I spent so much time crouched so I definitely broke my toe at our wedding reception. I don't remember doing it Shocking. I remember most of the night. I just don't remember any kind of impact that would have broken that toe. But I spent a lot of time crouched and my big toe has been numb for about a day and a half, which is a good sign that I've done some nerve damage there.

Speaker 1:

Dad has numb Nerve damage.

Speaker 3:

I have a lot of numbness.

Speaker 1:

yes, what Tell us about your numbness?

Speaker 3:

Back surgery, sorry, my left leg.

Speaker 1:

Give us more context.

Speaker 3:

I had a fusion between four and five. It went fantastically, but my lower leg has been numb ever since, which is part of just having waited too long, because as a guy, you don't always make the best choices.

Speaker 1:

Matt's never had his toe checked out and now he has nerve damage in it.

Speaker 2:

It was okay to walk on Everything I saw. That was like, hey, if you can walk on it, it's probably okay. It wasn't displaced.

Speaker 1:

It wasn't pointing a different direction. I also think your threshold for can walk on. It's not like.

Speaker 2:

I like ran and worked out on it, which is probably a huge problem. It's probably why it didn't heal quite right.

Speaker 1:

I want to go back to threshold. Like you did not prove anything by being like well, I worked out and did all the things I wasn't supposed to on it.

Speaker 2:

I deadlifted very heavy with it for years.

Speaker 3:

There's very little you can do for toes.

Speaker 2:

You know, it was my big toe, which they do say to like, maybe take care of that one more.

Speaker 1:

Well, when, or at least talk to a doctor about it, which I didn't do At what point, dad, did you go in and they told you how many broken bones you'd had?

Speaker 3:

I actually stubbed my toe on Killian's shoe in the house. Oh, I knew I broke it. It up my toe on Killian's shoe in the house oh, I knew I broke it. It hurt so bad and I went. We have a friend who's an orthopod and he was kind enough to take a look and I didn't break at that time. But he had me go in and see his partner and he took x-rays of both of my feet and came back and said well, when did you break your toe? And I said which one? And he said pick one.

Speaker 4:

They've all been broken multiple times.

Speaker 3:

There's only one time I ever remember it hurting bad enough.

Speaker 2:

They all healed well, yeah, I don't know that mine did. It doesn't seem as though mine healed quite right, Although apparently it also can just be something that happens when you break your big toe. I'm sure someone will call in, and this person will probably call us back. Let us know what a terrible idea it was to not get this fixed. Please do, and how it probably needs to be surgically repaired.

Speaker 1:

now, that was really interesting to me that was, and you kept it so concise that was nice.

Speaker 2:

We had some strong voicemails today.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 5:

Hey guys, voicemails today. Yeah, I like it. Hey guys. Uh, so my question is probably more geared towards Matt. It is a laundry question.

Speaker 5:

Um, so, as you would say, I was a dumb dumb and left a tip of a green crayon in my pocket and totally did not know about it until the dryer. So I have looked up. You know how to get it off and there's so many different ways, so many different steps. I've seen WD-40 and to start off with and just a bunch of other stuff, and it could be the ADHD in me, but just seeing all those steps, it could be the ADHD in me. But just seeing all those steps, it's really daunting and I don't know where to start.

Speaker 5:

And I'm also in my second pregnancy. I'm sick all the time, so everything is just such a big task to me right now. So I was just wondering, especially because you guys have two kids, have you come across that problem? If you have, what has worked for you? I would appreciate any advice. If not, then at this point I'm willing to take the L on it. But thank you guys for everything that you do and thank you for helping me keep my head up and have high spirits whenever I'm on the way to getting fluids during my pregnancy. It really just helps listening to your guys' podcast. It brings a lot of smiles and a lot of nice introspection. But thank you so much.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I'm going to let you answer and then I'm going to have Dad close out on a story that that made me think of, and I think that he's going to know what I'm talking about, do you, crayons?

Speaker 3:

I do know that one.

Speaker 2:

I know that one Crayons, crayons. I do know that one. I know that one, uh, crayons. I literally just googled this, as as soon as you said crayons, I was like, well, I don't actually know how to fix that, so I'm gonna google that as well. Uh, I would say, don't put wd-40 on anything you care about in terms of clothes. That doesn't sound right at all. Sounds like a different stain that you'll have to address. Um, yeah, I think I think the move is probably dish soap. Dish soap is usually mostly harmless and a great way to start, and then some oxygen-safe bleach Soak it for a long time and I think with crayon you go hot water to try and loosen it up or melt it, but it super depends on what you're washing. If it's super fragile, then it's probably screwed. Just a fact. But you can try. I mean the nice part of something that's like really messed up. You can just be like, well, it already is terrible, so I can go after it aggressively.

Speaker 1:

And something I've learned from Matt is like, don't be afraid to treat it. Go through the process, wash it and then treat it. Go through the process, wash it and then treat it. Go through the process, wash it. Like there are things that you've saved through doing that five, six times.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm currently doing that with a hot sauce stain because I dropped an entire hot wing down the front of one of my favorite sweatshirts and the second time around it's gotten a lot better and it just needs one more, but I'm probably going to wear it and then clean it again. But yeah, my main tip is just never use your dryer. It's the worst. It just sets in stuff. I have a hard time using my dryer, especially if I'm treating a stain, because a lot of times you can't see the stain until it dries. I thought I got my hot sauce stain out and when it dried air dried I was like oh no, it's still all over. So but I how many? What percentage of our clothes go through the dryer?

Speaker 2:

10% yeah it's. It's definitely under 20% for sure um, okay, dad I need like a 75 foot like hanging line.

Speaker 1:

I know that's what everybody was saying online. Uh, okay, I want dad to close out the pod today by telling the story of coming home to his toddler's crayon masterpiece.

Speaker 3:

So this is this a lesson on just like, take away all your kids crayons Go, markers Go, something else no this is a lesson in dad controlling his responses, I think, and thankfully I had your mom to thank for that, because she called me and gave me a warning and said hey, your daughter did some coloring today and I just need to warn you she wouldn't tell me what it was.

Speaker 3:

But I just need to warn you Because I was really excited to show you. You were extremely excited. I don't know how old you were, maybe three.

Speaker 1:

I was little.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you were probably about Gardner's age.

Speaker 1:

Dad told me to color in the lines yeah, so I did.

Speaker 3:

And I came home and she was so excited she met me at the door and so excited to show me her coloring and she took me back into our kitchen where we I don't think we had just redone that, that's that's, but it was a fairly new house and she used her crayon to color in all the grout and a very light colored tile. And I looked and she's showing me and I'm like, oh yeah, oh, it's so pretty, yeah, but you know, next time maybe we shouldn't color on the grout. So we spent weeks getting the grout cleaned off with toothbrushes. So, yeah, it took a while.

Speaker 2:

I feel like it might have been better just to cut out the grout and re-grout.

Speaker 3:

I think you're right. Expanding on that, though, just to show the history and this involves Matt too of how you respond. I learned a lot from that, because if you remember the dance that you and Matt were going to go to and you had your grandma's brand-new car convertible and you guys took it to go to prom and you wanted a convertible and you went to eat with friends and the top got stuck.

Speaker 1:

We were on our way to eat with friends.

Speaker 3:

And your top got stuck and you guys were so upset, or you were.

Speaker 1:

I was just panicked that I had broken the car.

Speaker 3:

Right, right, and Grandpa and I came over, I believe, um to help you guys out and you were just panicked and and we missed pictures yeah. And I said, don't, it's not a big deal, it's a car. And I said, well, why don't you just take the jeep?

Speaker 1:

because it was a convertible I know, I know what he said and well, I did.

Speaker 3:

I just handed you guys the keys and you guys took off and everything was cool, and you probably stood on it for 30 minutes, and if you would have just called but what did Matt say when he got in that Jeep? Well, he didn't say it to me, he said it to you, so you should tell everybody.

Speaker 1:

Matt said if I crash this thing, just make sure I die.

Speaker 2:

Yeah just wanted the wreck to be bad enough to take me out.

Speaker 3:

Which I have never. And what they're talking about is I have a different Jeep now but I like my Jeeps and build them up and I'm kind of particular about them. But in my defense, there's never been a vehicle that's been damaged by anybody that I've ever cared about. The people are more important than the car. I don't care.

Speaker 1:

It's just a thing, yeah, but Matt didn't know that yet.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I wasn't rolling the dice, that's true.

Speaker 2:

I wasn't going to try and find out.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, Ultimately it's just a car.

Speaker 2:

Back to crayons. I'm seeing some recommendations to, as long as it's heat, safe fabric tissue paper, and then you iron it and then try and transfer the wax to the tissue paper. That seems like feasible, but if it's like nylon, then you're going to melt your clothes, so don't do that okay.

Speaker 1:

Well, we'll have dad back on and we'll do open Q&A sometime, because I know there are lots of specific questions people would like to ask him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we could probably give you guys a heads up, but we love you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, have a great day, dad. Thanks for joining us for an hour.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it was nice to be on. Thank you all. Hope it sounds good.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, okay, bye.

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