Oversharing with the Overbys
VNN: Vibe News Network
Have you ever felt like an outlier in a sea of traditional parents, or graded yourself harshly as a parent? This week on Oversharing we kick off with the soothing sounds of Bubly ASMR and dive into the sweet, fleeting joy of our favorite limited-time flavors. We laugh about monkey behavior and get real about their experiences as parents.
Ever felt judged or undervalued in your role? You're not alone. We explore how the expectations of society can either inspire or frustrate us and through our personal reflections, we emphasize the importance of recognizing individual efforts in the collective journey of raising children. We brainstorm the idea of a "Vibe News Network"— a new take on news based on feelings and vibes, complete with key contributions from the stars and the Farmer's Almanac. Your voicemails bring us questions on finding motivation beyond swimming as a workout, the dynamic changes in Northwest Arkansas, and the challenges of parenting a hyperactive toddler.
This episode is packed with humor, heartfelt moments, and relatable insights that you won't want to miss. Join us as we reconnect and share our experiences, and don't forget to give us your feedback on our upcoming podcast rebrand!
If you've got a voicemail or want our (likely unqualified) advice on something, hit us up at the Speakpipe link below!
http://www.speakpipe.com/oversharingwiththeoverbys
If you'd like to email us you can reach the pod at oversharing@jojohnsonoverby.com!
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Have you ever felt like an outlier in a sea of traditional parents, or graded yourself harshly as a parent? This week on Oversharing we kick off with the soothing sounds of Bubly ASMR and dive into the sweet, fleeting joy of our favorite limited-time flavors. We laugh about monkey behavior and get real about their experiences as parents.
Ever felt judged or undervalued in your role? You're not alone. We explore how the expectations of society can either inspire or frustrate us and through our personal reflections, we emphasize the importance of recognizing individual efforts in the collective journey of raising children. We brainstorm the idea of a "Vibe News Network"— a new take on news based on feelings and vibes, complete with key contributions from the stars and the Farmer's Almanac. Your voicemails bring us questions on finding motivation beyond swimming as a workout, the dynamic changes in Northwest Arkansas, and the challenges of parenting a hyperactive toddler.
This episode is packed with humor, heartfelt moments, and relatable insights that you won't want to miss. Join us as we reconnect and share our experiences, and don't forget to give us your feedback on our upcoming podcast rebrand!
If you've got a voicemail or want our (likely unqualified) advice on something, hit us up at the Speakpipe link below!
http://www.speakpipe.com/oversharingwiththeoverbys
If you'd like to email us you can reach the pod at oversharing@jojohnsonoverby.com!
CONNECT:
TikTok: @jojohnsonoverby / @matt.overby
Instagram: @jojohnsonoverby / @matt.overby
Website: https://jojohnsonoverby.com/
Watch the Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL29Si0ylWz2qj5t6hYHSCxYkvZCDGejGq
Welcome to Oversharing with Overbees. I'm Jo. And I'm Matt, and each week you can tune in to hear us respond to your voicemails, go in-depth on our lives as content creators and hopefully leave you feeling even better than we found you.
Speaker 2:With that being said, let's get to Oversharing.
Speaker 1:In the middle Matt opened. Matt opened his bubbly for me recording. So you don't get to take part in ASMR.
Speaker 2:I never have.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I thought that you went to go get one, because I got one.
Speaker 2:I went to go get one because it looked good.
Speaker 1:It is good. I really do like these a lot. I bet they're limited time. They never brought back the ginger ones that I like so much. Yeah, I would say they're at the very least seasonal. I really hate much. Yeah, I would say they're the very least seasonal.
Speaker 2:I really hate that. Okay, is everybody ready? Why are my hands so dirty?
Speaker 1:I mean, not, why Well?
Speaker 2:Oh, go ahead Sorry.
Speaker 1:You have to be quiet, Otherwise it doesn't have the same vibe.
Speaker 2:Perfecto.
Speaker 1:Thank you, guys. That was a bubbly strawberry sunset. A few people dm me every week and like rate my, so it's really egged me on. So everybody that hates that I do that blame the people that are uh, telling me they are a handful of people that are like literally I am a monkey. Anybody claps for me at all. I'm like yes, will do again.
Speaker 2:Do monkeys perform for claps?
Speaker 1:I don't know, was that not how?
Speaker 2:it is, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I was thinking, like you know, don't they say like monkey, see monkey do.
Speaker 2:Monkey pee all over you. No, wait, wait.
Speaker 1:What Monkey pee all over you? No, wait, wait. What Is that? I don't think that's how it goes. Is that how it goes?
Speaker 2:I don't know, that's how it goes for immature fourth grade boys Probably. I mean monkey, see, monkey do. Definitely is enough of the phrase. Yeah, so then I included like I think they say it in the office once.
Speaker 1:I probably just like extrapolated that into something it isn't. But you guys are getting the point. You don't need this explanation. We're so happy to be back. We're so happy to be on the mic. I'm a little sunburned.
Speaker 2:And I'm dirty.
Speaker 1:Yeah. We'll get into details on why we're both those things later. I missed the podcast last week. Matt and I really got flowing when we were doing our little bit to let you guys know that there wouldn't be a full episode and by the time we got done it was like 16 minutes in and we didn't have time to record a full episode, but Matt and I were both like man, we were flowing.
Speaker 2:We were ready to go. Yeah, mainly it would have just been rude to our editor to try and get it edited, or we would have to stay up. Somebody would have had to stay up way too late to publish.
Speaker 1:Well, we didn't have childcare for us to record for the whole time we needed to record and I didn't have the availability to edit it. I'm feeling like a completely normal parent this week.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like traditional trad mom. Um, and by that I mean I've been taking gita dance class. That's literally it. I was gonna say Uh, but I sit with all the other moms. There are no dads there. No no do you feel that, like I know that you take her to a lot of her activities and things like that, or have? Are you usually the only dad there?
Speaker 2:She's still pretty young. She hasn't done a ton of activities. Normally I'm the only dad there, but Really Like swim lessons.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Swim lessons. I was the only dad there Nine times out of ten.
Speaker 1:Once in a while there'd be another dad there. There was a dad. There was one dad there this morning.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to think of other stuff. Well, I mean, just think about if we go to the park as a family. I'm going to be one of three dads.
Speaker 1:I see dads at the park more than I More.
Speaker 2:I mean you're outnumbered one to five at the minimum.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I don't know that it's always moms either. I feel like grandmas be rolling heavy at the park.
Speaker 2:Grandmas definitely do the park. I mean childcare, or they're really not to assume but they look pretty old to have babies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I'm talking gray hair, you know.
Speaker 2:Many of them look post-menopausal.
Speaker 1:Right, yes.
Speaker 2:For sure. Maybe they snuck it under the wire. We don't know, we don't ask.
Speaker 1:We would never ask. There's no reason to. They can let me know how they feel, if they feel like it, if anything just be like cute kid, cute kid.
Speaker 2:You can compliment the kid. You don't have to be like old parent.
Speaker 1:Grandparent, your deal Are you here, Are you a geriatric mother, Uh?
Speaker 2:accident. No, oh, on purpose. Wow, no, that's so rude because what if they tried for like 20 years and they finally got their miracle baby? I meant to say crazy rude. I think I said crazy old. Yes, no, that would be again the upside is nothing and the downsides are tremendous.
Speaker 1:No, I just was thinking about that today as I was sitting waiting and it was all moms and kids Also. I have felt up until now I'm like we're doing a pretty good job, I'm a pretty good mom, I'm a terrible mother.
Speaker 2:What does that mean?
Speaker 1:I get like a zero out of 10. Like I think that I adequately. Like I think, well, okay, let's think about this. As I talk about motherhood, remember that I'm talking to motherhood a lot, that I a lot, similarly to how I talk about relationships. Okay, okay, like we're not getting any credit. I'm not giving myself any credit for what should be the standard. Okay, okay, like we're not getting any credit, I'm not giving myself any credit for what should be the standard. Okay, okay. So like people who, when they're in a relationship, they're like yeah, he takes me out on dates, he like remembers my birthday, like do you know what I mean? Yeah, so, like. The equivalent of that in parenthood would be like I make sure they're fed, they're cleaned, they're housed, they are like have toys, like do you know what I mean? I take care of them, I make sure their house is clean yeah like to me.
Speaker 1:That's, that's the floor. That's the bare minimum parents should be providing to their child, okay yeah, I don't know that always happens, but yeah, no I'm not saying that either, and sometimes I don't even like nail it on all of those things, sure, but what I mean is, like those are not the things I'm giving myself kudos on Generally. I'm like no, I'm like doing a pretty good job, I'm fun, I'm this.
Speaker 2:I'm not.
Speaker 1:I'm not. Oh okay, Elaborate. At Dan's camp, damn it together. There's one mom who I sorry if you're listening to this and you're one of these moms. Surely not, Surely none of them listen to this.
Speaker 2:I think it's complimentary.
Speaker 1:No, it's totally complimentary. But like I don't, want them to be like. Oh, I don't know Just feel any kind of way, but their kids are all like her. She has three daughters and they were all in matching outfits with their hair, perfectly done, like for drop off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean we only have the one kid, so incredible. Yeah, no, that's. It's an accomplishment Incredible. I just don't know there's something for you to feel bad about.
Speaker 1:Well, no, I don't think that them succeeding in that says anything bad about me. That's not what I mean. I just mean like I'm doing a fine job but then I saw how many levels ahead I could be. It doesn't mean that I'm like failing at the level I'm at it just means that they have like I don't know, this is an inspirational story. Inspirational, to say the least. Okay, cool.
Speaker 2:That's fine. I just was like.
Speaker 1:I hope we're not like in all I'm like, really, these kids are having a childhood. We're outside, we're slipping, we're sliding, we're growing fruit, we're growing vegetables, we're watering plants, we're creating a habitat for butterflies. We're doing things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we try to do that stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we.
Speaker 2:You. Well, that just hurt, because I feel like I have really made an effort, yeah and I'm like sir I'm a dad, I don't, I don't have to do that yes, you do, but you have your own things, that you do things. It's just not those things I just named no I felt defensive I felt that, so I just decided that would you like me to name things you do?
Speaker 1:No, no. Okay, well, I didn't know if you needed some affirmation, I was here to provide it. Okay, matt's secure guys Anyway. Not at all these moms, just like it's times 100, man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're doing it, it's great.
Speaker 1:They have baggies of magnetiles that they travel with. Oh, just so that, like their kids, can be entertained in the waiting period. Like impressive. Anyway, moms of Northwest Arkansas slay, there you go. Great, they're doing it. I was so impressed Like I just like, I'm like I'm learning something new. I don't get out much, Okay, guys.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, this is how my career ends. Love that it's just me being excited over a bag of magnet tiles and matching outfits and you know what, if you'd like a, I can bag some tiles up for you to take with you.
Speaker 1:I don't want to do that oh, okay.
Speaker 2:Well, it's always something to shoot for, I guess so and like their car.
Speaker 1:We we saw another girl that I like kind of an acquaintance with. She got a new car and it's beautiful and like the inside of it's like immaculately clean. Her car seat was perfectly clean. The outside of the car was clean.
Speaker 2:I'm like oh yeah, you're not doing that.
Speaker 1:I don't want to. I want to be that mom, but I have to like. I just am not right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's a huge part of having a clean car. Yeah right now. Yeah, yeah, that's a huge part of having a clean car. Yeah, it's cleaning the car.
Speaker 1:Yep, some say it's 100 of it which I feel like I could participate in.
Speaker 2:I'm very if you wanted to, yeah, but you don't, I want to, you want, you want the results no, I am right now.
Speaker 1:I want to.
Speaker 2:I'm all in, I am I don't know the stance class might be good for you I came home and I picked up the entire kitchen.
Speaker 1:You probably didn't notice.
Speaker 2:I pick up the kitchen a lot, but it's okay. It made me laugh because we were talking about how much you wanted to clean the car and then you said I cleaned the kitchen and it threw me off High five.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:You just responded to me like being proud I did something by dismissing me and letting me know that you do it a lot Like.
Speaker 2:I said I didn't like that. I didn't like that at all. Yeah, you're really on edge today.
Speaker 1:Zero out of five. I'm very sensitive today.
Speaker 2:This could be a fun one. I mean not me, but for somebody out there.
Speaker 1:I'm being sensitive.
Speaker 2:Team Joe.
Speaker 1:Team Joe. There is no team Joe. Everybody's team Matt. Why do you think I'm so?
Speaker 2:sensitive. I have no idea. I just assume you know a lifetime of trauma.
Speaker 1:You.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm part of that lifetime, I guess.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:Sure, I don't think so no.
Speaker 2:Like I don't know that I'd agree with that, but it's usually, I mean, people are sensitive from just their lived experiences.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no. Right, all right, sure, but like I think I'm a little confused because you know me.
Speaker 4:I do know, you Really?
Speaker 1:well, pretty good.
Speaker 2:So the idea that you're just like in the top 10 people who know you for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would think.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'd put you in the top two. Top two Wow, you and Jaycee, I think would give each other a run for their money in different categories.
Speaker 2:We just have completely different knowledge categories. Yeah, she knows like what you're doing now and I know what you did 15 years ago. It's our different strength sets. Know what you did 15 years ago? It's our different strength sets. No, you just talked to her about what you're doing a lot now.
Speaker 1:I think that I'm going to have to listen back to this and see if everything Matt's saying to me will hurt me a second go around, or just right now. If I'm just sensitive right now.
Speaker 2:JC gets like up-to-date information.
Speaker 1:What do you get?
Speaker 2:I get information after JC hears about it, which is pretty soon.
Speaker 1:Right, but what you said was you know about 15 years ago.
Speaker 2:She doesn't know as much. We're talking strengths here. No, okay.
Speaker 1:Matt's.
Speaker 2:I mean inadvertently hurting your feelings a lot today yeah I keep looking at my hands. I gotta stop looking at my hands. I was in a pretty good mood, but it's sinking fast then we started the podcast go ahead.
Speaker 1:Go ahead and tell them about why your hands are dirty.
Speaker 2:No, I just I, yeah, no, I I'm disassembling a car again. Not really disassembling, I'm changing fluids in a vehicle, the one that's been parked in our driveway for too long and then parked in our garage because it hailed and then we had to push it into the garage because the battery was dead. So I'm repairing the battery and swapping the fluids out that need to be swapped and then, once all that's done, I can check to make sure nothing else is wrong with it. So it's been an adventure. I've only had to go to the hardware store twice to get tools to work on it, so that's pretty huge.
Speaker 1:You've been a manual labor boy, the last couple weeks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've been doing all of the dad stuff. But like old school, works on your house, works on your car dad stuff, I don't know, maybe like what? Would that be Like home improvement dad stuff?
Speaker 1:That's what I was about to say, yeah yeah, that's kind of yeah. Would you like to go wash your hands?
Speaker 2:No, it's okay. It's okay. Are you sure? I'm going to try to stop looking at them, because I keep just seeing new things that are on them. It's a lot of transmission fluid and brake dust and whatever's on our garage floor. So it's been exciting. But I mean it's going to be like a whole brand new-ish vehicle operationally. Not, it'll still look exactly the same inside and outside. They need to be washed badly. Both of our cars which you were just talking about. We just have to get the one I'm working on in good enough shape to you know It'll turn on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, get it to the car wash or the driveway to wash it off. Probably needs to be the first step, because it's very dirty. Greg's reads, greg's reads, greg's reads. Greg's your dad. He reads news, he sends us that news and then we read the articles.
Speaker 1:We didn't really give any updates about our week at all.
Speaker 2:No, no, no.
Speaker 1:It was my birthday and Father's Day, oh yeah. That's all those are two Yep. I mean enough, said, we can just skip over it.
Speaker 2:Honestly, yeah, is that what you want to do?
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 2:You're 31?.
Speaker 1:I'm 31.
Speaker 2:It was Father's Day.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, we had a big brunch. I cooked food.
Speaker 2:You did. You actually did cook a significant amount of food. Yeah, that's it. That's the whole shebang. Yeah, that was about the excitement of those things.
Speaker 1:We went out yeah.
Speaker 2:We went out for the night before your birthday.
Speaker 1:We went to bars.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we partied like we were 24 instead of 31.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 2:This is the one month that we're both 31. It's kind of fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was fun. This is the one month that we're both 31.
Speaker 2:It's kind of fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we get a full like five or six weeks.
Speaker 2:Yep, I'll be in the same age, and then I get older than you.
Speaker 1:Yep. But, I don't think about it like that. No I mean, but you do. That's not really how time works your mom explained it to me that way, with you and your brother.
Speaker 2:Oh really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when she was like well, they're two years apart for.
Speaker 2:Two months.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'm like that's not.
Speaker 2:Or they're two years and 10 months apart, all the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm like I remember.
Speaker 2:Maybe it's a family thing?
Speaker 1:No, I think it is, and you're not the only family that I've heard refer to it that way.
Speaker 2:Well, I think over time, like some of it is grade too. Yeah, and so that can sometimes that matters more, like as far as people knowing, like how old you are, what your age gap Was, your brother a freshman, when you were a senior.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we were three years apart in school, okay, so that, I think, sometimes has more of an effect where it's like, okay, we're this far apart.
Speaker 1:These are the things they're doing Like if somebody asked me how far apart you guys were, I would just say three years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean that works best, but leave it to my family to give you an, like an answer that is much more detailed and not very informative.
Speaker 1:Yeah, uh, but again, you're not the only family that I've heard refer to it that way. Yeah, it's not wrong, like I understand the sentiment, it's just never how I've.
Speaker 2:I've never heard it that way, but like instead it's. I think it's intended to simplify and explain, but it does a worse job of explaining.
Speaker 1:Well, like I always say that, my sister and I are nine years apart, but really we're, to the day, eight years and 11 months yeah, yeah, but no one cares no, and I'm not going to tell them that for one month a year, we're eight years apart you should start.
Speaker 2:You can pick it up. This could be your new thing. I we had it first, but if you'd like a piece of it, you're welcome to it.
Speaker 1:Did you know that for four months a year our kids are only one year apart. They're Irish twins. For four months a year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know it's something about yeah, I don't know if my family didn't you know what, I bet it is bet it is they weren't comfortable saying we were three years apart, even though we were effectively three years apart. And so they're like they're two years apart, but like quite a bit more than two years, and for some reason that feels more truthful than A either remembering that we are two years and ten months apart or just going with three.
Speaker 1:That's unhinged, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I don't know that that's right, but I feel like it might be you guys are really into factual.
Speaker 1:Are factual Because you could say just shy of three years.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know. There are a lot of ways to communicate that that are not.
Speaker 2:Six times as long and half as efficient into it. Yeah, we've kind of, you know it's, uh, it's our thing at this point probably yeah, let's lean in. Yeah, let's not start a family bit yeah, anyway, we were going to read your dad's news yeah, it was father's day, so for father's day, here's greg in honor. Father's Day. Let's see how much anxiety these article titles give us. Skinner's Law is 86 years old. It's still the ultimate secret to beating procrastination.
Speaker 1:Three out of five.
Speaker 2:That gives you three out of five anxiety Okay your reaction just gave me five out of five. Never mind, I don't know. It was like a one out of five for me.
Speaker 1:Okay, I would say that's the difference between somebody that cares about the results of their procrastination and someone that doesn't.
Speaker 2:You can fill in the blanks on who you think who is All right. Always use six phrases. You're mentally stronger than most. Your dad said good, read underneath it. Whoa, say it again Always use six phrases.
Speaker 1:You're mentally stronger than most. I don't think it's a particularly well-written title. I don't like the title. It is five out of five.
Speaker 2:Now what I will say is it's written in a way that confuses you. That goes what does that mean? Yeah, and how does that work?
Speaker 1:Five out of five for the title alone. Okay, I don't think the content of the article is really giving me anxiety, but the fact that I have no idea what that's trying to say to me is really hurting my brain.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it's. Yeah, it's just like things. What possibilities does this setback present? I'm enough Like these. Enough like these are. These are little mantras or phrases that you know would be useful, but, yes, the article title is written in such a way that it's like.
Speaker 1:What does that mean? Five out of five.
Speaker 2:Next all right. Yes, everyone really is sick. A lot more after covid two out of five.
Speaker 1:Yeah, one and a half out of five.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't read it, but it's probably that you know we're around each other and not wearing masks anymore.
Speaker 1:Like, do you think that that's based on, like, how sick we were during COVID Cause I feel like people were actually less if they didn't have COVID. They were less sick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there was like one thing going around a lot, but most of the other things we got a lot less often, especially if we weren't seeing other people as much. Kind of hard for your kids to be sick when they're not at school or daycare or all the things. For sure. So that's not as newsworthy as who knows. Maybe that's not what it's about at all, but we're just going to guess.
Speaker 1:Let's not read the article. No, it's better if we don article no I like where we just pretend Like we know what the contents are From the headlines.
Speaker 2:News is kind of a state of mind. We could start a whole new segment. Yeah. State of mind news.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what feels like news right now. We could start a whole new news network.
Speaker 2:A news channel that's just like Vibes News.
Speaker 1:Entertainment News.
Speaker 2:VNN.
Speaker 1:VNN.
Speaker 2:Vibe News Network.
Speaker 1:Ooh, I like it the news feels bad this week. It's feeling negative, but the sun's shining and that's warm.
Speaker 2:We should definitely have like an astrology part to it. Ooh yeah, it's like Mercury is in Everglades right now, so watch out.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that kind of thing I like it. I think that fits our.
Speaker 1:That's like the weather, but you know vibes, so no weather we could do weather too because I was expecting to do weather. Farmer's Almanac based weather love it yeah, I like that not based on radar or any technology. Okay, so we do Farmer's Almanac and really, it's just a segment where we read that day from the farmer's almanac Well, that's the weather. Right.
Speaker 2:That's what you should be expecting. Okay, same with astrology.
Speaker 1:This is a good concept, I think.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1:I think this is kind of how they planned the majority of news networks that are on right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, they just were like explain more, I guess. What's our vibe? What's our vibe Got it? What's our take?
Speaker 1:And then they just tossed it out there.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, you know, and we're going with like, not a position, just vibe.
Speaker 1:Just vibe.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like it's not based on the vibe. It is the vibe, it's like anti-vibe. We'll see if we can license that for our network.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh yeah, this is yeah. We'll flesh this out.
Speaker 1:Maybe this will be our new pivot we should have just recorded for the hour last week, because this is tragic we would have had to record again yeah, oh my gosh, you guys. Anyway, what? What's the word of the week?
Speaker 2:Flump.
Speaker 1:Ooh F-L-U-M-P, yep Flump.
Speaker 2:Spelled it, crushed the spelling.
Speaker 1:Thank you, flump.
Speaker 2:Flump. What's it feel like it means.
Speaker 1:Flump, I flumped up.
Speaker 2:To plump down suddenly or heavily Flop.
Speaker 1:Oh, is it like a new word that they're adding?
Speaker 2:I don't know, I just ran into it. That was not what I planned for.
Speaker 1:Word of the Day I flump on the couch all the dang time. That sounds I'm not really sure about this.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's well known enough to just Sling around willy nilly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think people are going to think I'm trying to use a fluffy word For something else.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Flump you. I kind of like it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're just using it as a replacement.
Speaker 1:Okay, sure, I like it.
Speaker 2:Okay, flump.
Speaker 1:That could be our news network Flump Sure. I like it, okay, flump.
Speaker 2:L-U-M-P. Lump with an F.
Speaker 1:That could be our news network.
Speaker 2:FLUMP.
Speaker 1:No VNN. Scrap it FLUMP network.
Speaker 2:FLUMP news.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just for the people who are on their couch, man, I think we can really do an all day, or do we just?
Speaker 2:we only broadcast like 75 minutes.
Speaker 1:And then the other whatever. 23 hours of the day is just like.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Just that song.
Speaker 1:No, just that one line.
Speaker 2:I don't think we're going to get a lot of advertising dollars throughout the rest of the day.
Speaker 1:We can edit together every song that talks about vibes into a six-day remix. That's a growing category.
Speaker 2:Oh, that seems like a lot of work. Why, why, why?
Speaker 1:It won't even sound like a word by the time we're done.
Speaker 2:It barely sounds like a word.
Speaker 1:now I to this day remember the first time I heard somebody use the word vibe in context.
Speaker 3:Really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do.
Speaker 3:Wow.
Speaker 1:I was a senior in college.
Speaker 2:Did it feel like it was just the new, the new thing.
Speaker 1:No, I remember listening to this dude talk about he was working on branding for something Like I'd ended up in. It wasn't a house party, but it was like we were getting ready to go do something. We're at somebody's house and they were like building out this brand that was semi-successful already and he's like really into what he was doing. He's like, well, the vibe of this and like going on and on about um, everything. And I remember leaving him like I don't know if that guy knows, but he sounded like an absolute moron, like like I understood what it meant and everything, but it just sounded like he was trying to be cool.
Speaker 1:Do you know what I mean? He's like oh yeah, the vibe of this is just there, man, Like they're just people are going to vibe to death with this. Like it's going to be so cool. Vibe to death, Uh-huh. No, I remember it to this day and I was so slow to adopt the word vibe and use it because I always think of that guy still to this day. It's been what? How many years ago was that?
Speaker 1:almost 10 yeah, yeah and it's not that I'd never heard the word, but in that context, the way that we use it now heavily yes, but then I have a whole history with the word vibe wow then in 2017, 16 or 17, my my friend, bree, moved out to Arizona and I went to go visit her and she was shooting photographs with her friend and that's what they used to say, like whenever they really feel like they got a shot, they'd go ah, vibe, and then I really picked it up after that, by like accident, you know, and so then every time I took a photo for a while I'd be like vibe, vibey.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do remember that now.
Speaker 1:And anyway so.
Speaker 2:I can't say I've thought about it that much.
Speaker 1:I haven't thought about it that much with most things, but that word specifically, just I guess really it's kind of amazing because you're like I don't have any memory, and then you're like when it word vibe.
Speaker 2:here's the last 10 years of my life and everywhere it's been used.
Speaker 1:Well, it's only twice, but sure, I just remember you were very ready with it. Well, I remember hearing it for the first time and I was like absolutely not. And I think about that a lot because that, that the guy that did that was somebody that was like fairly successful and I just remember being what's happening. It reminded me of the first time I'd really been around like creatives. It was like a very like creative. We're going to make the people feel kind of environment, which is cool if you're ready for it. I wasn't.
Speaker 2:You've never been a creative creative.
Speaker 1:No. You like creating, but you're not an an artiste I value creatives yeah but no, my brain's a little too logic science logic science feels wild hearing you say but you know. That's right, though I know I know it's right.
Speaker 2:Just you feel like you'd be creative, but you're you're a brass tack scurvy I think I'm just like chipper, chipper.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think people confuse chipper and you know not that you have to be chipper to be creative. But nobody associates chipper with logical, logic and science and so it's fair it's fair, people are like, well, she's good at stuff, so it must be creative for her, because it's definitely not logic that's funny. That is funny and sadly true yeah, caroline's reading a book right now, called surrounded by idiots okay I don't know if that's the name, something like that. I think that's right could be.
Speaker 2:You want me to look it up?
Speaker 1:and you can, and it splits people up into categories of colors. So there's red, yellow, green and blue. And we were talking extensively about it yesterday. She wants me to read it and she said she is a red, which is the most rare go figure that Caroline is are just absolutely scarce queen.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Nobody's ever done it like her. Nobody will ever do it like her. Nobody will ever do it like her. It sounds like I'm being sarcastic. I'm being a little sarcastic.
Speaker 2:I was going to say you definitely are being sarcastic.
Speaker 1:I'd like it to be known that I'm being sarcastic in like a big sister way. I'm not making fun of her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you love her dearly yeah.
Speaker 1:No, it just made me giggle because Caroline really prizes, her individuality. Yes.
Speaker 2:I think is the nice way to put it, but she's also okay with liking things.
Speaker 1:Everybody else is like it's not like Sometimes.
Speaker 2:Sometimes Not too much though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not too much, not too much. And she is best friends with the most basic of the basic girlies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're okay liking things that other people like. Surrounded by Idiots is a book that has four colors of people on the front.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to go ahead and assume that's the book we're talking about. And then there's yellow, green and blue. What do you think you are? What do you feel immediately drawn to?
Speaker 2:Ah, blue Really Just based on absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you are a blue.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, well, good to know.
Speaker 1:That was her guess. Is that you're?
Speaker 2:a blue. I don't need to read the book Now I just know I haven't needs the book. You're so right, we're crushing it. We are crushing it. I'd like to know I can see Caroline as a red, just based entirely on who she is as a color, when I was poking fun.
Speaker 1:I don't think that she was wrong. Yeah, I just was laughing because I'm like, of course, she is the one that's like rare and she's awesome. She is, that's part of it Um. Anyway, her and I had some really good talks yesterday. It was interesting.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We were talking about that book and now I kind of want to read it. I don't remember why I brought that up.
Speaker 2:I don't know either, but man.
Speaker 1:When I said we didn't have voicemails, you guys came through. We have a lot of voicemails.
Speaker 2:We probably no.
Speaker 1:I know we won't get to everything today, but do we A lot of people message me and ask me about the texting, but I don't know if anybody sent anything.
Speaker 2:I haven't seen anything on there, but that doesn't mean it like. We've never used it before, so it not working wouldn't be like. News I don't know that it's like.
Speaker 1:Well, your app's crazy. I want to see that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let us know if you've tried to send a fan mail thing via the texting. I don't think we get your number or anything, but maybe people just are like I'll email. I don't know what this is.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But I think they basically write an email via text and then it shows up to us as like an email.
Speaker 1:Cool, I feel like the.
Speaker 3:I've been really pleas surprised about how the voicemail stuff has worked. Yeah, no, that's all been good, because I was really stressed about it. Okay, voicemail number one no song this week. I mean, good morning, I'm Sophia and I'm calling in from Pennsylvania. I had a quick question just regarding working out, um, but so for background, I um used to be a swimmer in high school and I really enjoyed that, and I eat super, super healthy, so I don't need any work there. But working out, I just can't find motivation unless it's in swimming and I want to do other things than just swimming. So if you have any recommendations, that would be great. Thank you so much. Have a great day.
Speaker 1:Okay. So I think this was kind of me at first. When I got out of swimming, I like didn't know what to do with myself because I was so swimming doesn't feel like a workout. The same. I don't know if that's how she feels, but swimming doesn't to me feel like a workout. The same way other things feel like a workout.
Speaker 2:That's interesting Cause it's somebody who's never swam for for working out it, it seems like it would be very much a workout.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's because I don't think or acknowledge it as a workout. It's like I did it for so long. It feels more like my like lifestyle. It feels easy to me.
Speaker 2:Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Like does that make sense?
Speaker 2:Do you think maybe it's because if you stop doing it you'll die? There's not a lot of exercises where if you just stop, yeah, you will die, because swimming if you're in a pool and you just refuse to go true, though, because you're usually in a pool that's shallow, like you could just stand up or get out. I guess that makes sense that they'd be shallow. It doesn't seem very safe if you didn't make it.
Speaker 1:I mean, not all lap pools are shallow, like like in a lot of 50 meter pools there's a really deep diving and then, but like the majority, of lane swimming unless you have. Diving boards are only three and a half to four feet deep.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a depth that you could stand up and safely not drowned.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it makes sense.
Speaker 2:But I just you know, maybe on a fundamental level it's because, like you, kind of have to keep doing it. I don't know I don't think that's it for me at all, like just a working theory.
Speaker 1:I made up right now. I was like, matt, you're gonna do four 30 minute swims this week that you would be like, yeah, no problem no, no, I would, I would die yeah, I don't think it's about that what I'm talking about, but that might make it an effective workout for people like you I mean, yeah, the way I'm wired it might be better.
Speaker 1:B asked me today if I could teach her to swim. Yeah, I said yes, okay, and C said that she would give G some lessons, because I told her when I saw her that I couldn't do it.
Speaker 2:Oh, anxiety-wise.
Speaker 1:No, just like I don't think You're not comfortable with her not being good.
Speaker 2:No, just like I don't think You're not comfortable with her not being good, you're just like. What is this?
Speaker 1:What.
Speaker 2:I'm just, I'm just shooting stuff at you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, just like I think it's hard as a parent Like kids don't respond the same way. Their parent and I want to always be like a safe space. I don't want to have to like toss her out into the water.
Speaker 2:That makes have to like toss her out into the water.
Speaker 1:That makes sense yeah, like I'm not anxious about it, I'm not worried about it, but I don't want to not you can practice swing with her, but teaching her is harder yes, like yeah, I get that.
Speaker 2:It totally makes sense. I still feel like I need to be her safe space, like if caroline throws her into the water and whatever yeah it's not breaking down their relationship, because it's just different but especially when they're young, like correction from a parent has a lot of weight right and so like it can be very so anyway she said she did it um because obviously okay, sorry guys, we've gotten way off track, but I grew up teaching some lessons so did c.
Speaker 1:So anyway, swimming I understand that like not enjoying other workouts because I hate working out that's one thing to know about me. I work with a personal trainer twice a week who is has become a really good friend of mine, um, but she comes and like programs for me. I lift weights twice a week and minimum like I do stuff on my own too, but uh, I hate it, I hate it. I love her.
Speaker 4:I see results.
Speaker 1:It's been really successful for me. I feel stronger, I feel better Hate it, hate it, hate it, hate it, hate it, hate it. So, um, that would be my advice, I guess, is, if it is within your means, means either group fitness classes that turn it kind of into a social adding, not just a workout. Um, that's always been what's most successful for me, because I'm getting more out of it than my workout. Um, because I really value fitness and I really value working out, but I don't enjoy it that much.
Speaker 2:I mean sometimes that social pressure or that financial pressure of like, hey, this is something I'm paying for, I need to take advantage of it. Um, it's helpful, like it can. It can absolutely be motivating to, because it may just be building routines and building familiarity, especially if, like you're so familiar with swimming, other things are not going to feel as comfortable and they're not going to feel as natural.
Speaker 1:I also thought yoga was a really good transition for me.
Speaker 2:I was going to say that yoga could be a really good option because there are not only benefits kind of outside of just working out. It's got a lot of good breathing and good mental benefits, but you can take a very power-based class and do some strength training with it as well and that can be a good introduction to some of that.
Speaker 1:Like if you're doing a lot of presses and that kind of stuff, and the thing I was thinking about with swimming or with a yoga that makes it kind of similar and like a good transition for people who grew up swimming is it has that same um kind of brain checkout, because with swimming you can get into this rhythm and just kind of melt into it and there aren't a lot of other things that are that like I've never experienced runner's high when I'm lifting yeah, people say that with running and I used to run a lot and I've never had that.
Speaker 1:I'm having to like work my brain when I'm lifting because I'm having to think through what's next. How many reps am I doing? Like, do you know what I mean? I'm it's.
Speaker 2:Well, there's usually lifting, there's an intensity to it that probably doesn't line up the same way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so anyway, yoga would be my other big suggestion.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no yeah, I love yoga, but it can be a that's probably a lot of it being breath work too, like very breathing based. Yeah, hopefully that was good suggestions and I don't know. I don't know of any other activities where you might die if you stop doing them. That's such a funny way to think about it.
Speaker 5:Hi Joe and Matt, this is going to be my third voicemail, but I was just listening to last week's episode and I heard that you didn't have any, so I wanted to make sure I left one for next week. Anyways, I've mentioned it before, I am a northwest arkansas native, born and raised eureka springs baby, and I feel like every single time I go back which I would say is like twice, three times a year, maybe everything looks so different and like obviously that's the big story in NWA the growth, the explosion of people. And I'm curious, having lived there for several years, do you guys have any new favorite spots restaurants, coffee shops, et cetera, et cetera, things to do? I feel like when I'm in town, I always hit my favorite places, but I want to know what's new and where the cool spots are now, because it's actually been since ooh, let's think about it 2021, since I lived there when I graduated from the U of A. Anyways, would love to hear it, and you guys are still doing great stuff and I love tuning in. Okay, bye.
Speaker 1:Northwest Arkansas has changed a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's always growing. There's all kinds of new stuff. I don't know if we're the best at knowing all the new stuff.
Speaker 1:No, I would say no, probably not. I follow like NWA newbies and NWA uh transplants are both good Instagram accounts to follow, uh, but I was going to say the um, oh, my gosh.
Speaker 2:Describe it.
Speaker 1:Coffee shop Airship. Airship out in what park. Oh the one you have to walk to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah that one's cool.
Speaker 1:That's really cool. In Bentonville there's always new shows and things. The Momentary.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I know that opened before 21. That opened in 2020, right before COVID. Like right before, but the Momentary is so cool. 8th Street Market's really filled out A lot's changing on the Bentonville Square, the Rogers Square the park in downtown Rogers is so cool, although I don't know what it looks like after the tornadoes or if it got hit pretty hard or not. I have not looked further because I know that downtown Rogers got hit pretty hard. What else, what else, what else.
Speaker 2:I don't know. That's been a season of us having kids and so we've done a lot less going out and exploring.
Speaker 1:There's a new wine bar on the Fayetteville Square that I haven't been to yet. That's supposed to be pretty rad.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:No, I don't. I just don't get out a ton.
Speaker 2:No, we don't. But there is tons of stuff. There's always new stuff. Just we tend to go to old favorites on the off chance that we get out.
Speaker 1:I'm like Prelude's, where I always go.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's your go-to, your go-to breakfast spot.
Speaker 1:I love Prelude for brunch brunch.
Speaker 3:I like the new art.
Speaker 1:I mean, our segas has a new location but again, like some of these things have been in for two or three years now, I feel like 2021 isn't far enough removed for there to be anything super hot, like there's tacos and tamales open now in payville. I know that lots of people have been going there, but I feel like you're still connected enough that things are like wow, yeah, I don't feel like stuff's changed a ton in the last four years there is new stuff.
Speaker 2:We're just not the people that are like at every new thing.
Speaker 1:I don't know that I'm necessarily saying there aren't new things, but I feel like it's more like changes we've known about were coming are finally opening not so much like unexpected. Does that make sense? Sure, I don't know. That may have been an absolute terrible waste of time. Answer.
Speaker 4:I'm so sorry hello, we love your podcast here in jersey. Just wanted to ask you guys a quick question. Not sure if you guys have done this trend yet, but, joe, as a woman, would you rather be in the woods with a man or a bear? And Matt, would you rather leave your daughter or wife a woman important to you in the woods with a man or a bear? Curious to hear your thoughts on this. Love you so much. Bye.
Speaker 2:It's always the bear, always the bear.
Speaker 1:It's always the bear. Have you done research on like bears attacking?
Speaker 2:I have not done research on bears attacking.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, I've seen a lot of it because it's so few and far between.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:Like bears are not likely to attack you.
Speaker 2:I guess there's probably a lot of bears.
Speaker 1:Like you're talking about, like a bear in the woods, like it's not, like you're dropping them off with a bear.
Speaker 2:Okay, that was where my brain went. I was like, well, if they're like right with them, like can I equip them with something for the bear? Yeah, no, no, no, they're not like you're just Cause I think either way bear spray might work.
Speaker 1:You're so right. I don't know Um a bear, Not if I don't get to pick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if we're just pulling from random, it is concerning Random bear or random man. Yeah, yeah, and I think if you're in danger of a man, the bear's going to take you out quicker. You know, if we're assuming they're both hostile, the bear's going to make it like done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so like if we're assuming worst case here.
Speaker 1:And he's not going to talk about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like man or bear is going to attack you, we're going to pick bear. Yeah, I don't know if that's how people have been approaching that question.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Well, that's the innovative thinking you get here.
Speaker 1:Like, the chances of survival are a lot higher with a bear than a man.
Speaker 2:With a bear, really.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean I guess, so yeah.
Speaker 1:Surviving and being normal.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1:And not being like long-term psychologically.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, 100%. Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Matt hasn't even heard man or bear.
Speaker 2:I feel like I've heard you say something about it, but then I didn't think about it too much Because I was like, yeah, I agree with that, you know the bear take. But again, either way, you got to go bear. It's been really interesting and like I said, bear spray, you can handle both.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the discourse on that has been really, really interesting to take in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, give me a taste.
Speaker 1:Just like a lot of men are really shocked and angry about it because they think that it's saying something about them individually and they're on their high horse. I think that's what I've seen more than anything. And then women like basically just coming forward with straight statistics.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Like they went through. I saw one woman do a video where she took statistics of people who have been attacked by bears and then she did a percentage who had died. It was like she took an age group and then took that same age group of people who have been attacked by bears and did the percentages next to each other and it's like yeah, yeah, it's not flattering. It was horrendous.
Speaker 2:Yeah, again, I feel like these are probably the same people that are like wow, the I mean men are stronger and like can handle all this stuff, and then also offended that people would choose like bears over people that act like they're stronger and like way more capable than women. Yeah, and treat women as like second class.
Speaker 1:And objects. Yeah, and that they're owed something from women.
Speaker 2:At the worst, a bear is going to treat you as food.
Speaker 1:Or like an enemy, yeah, like Food or hostile Right, yeah, mm-hmm Like.
Speaker 2:Food or hostile.
Speaker 1:Right so.
Speaker 2:Either way it's both.
Speaker 1:I think it's probably more hostile than food. I don't think they eat people very often. I guess that's. I don't think that's like their.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I think, generally speaking, they stay back from people for the most part. I don't know, if you notice, I don't know a lot about bears well, it also depends on, yeah, which bear, kind of bear like polar bears?
Speaker 2:significantly more dangerous and huge, are they like really?
Speaker 1:oh yeah, like I think polar bears are like really aggressive okay, and pandas are really aggressive, aren't they? Really okay, I don't know about that, I know I know they're very docile like creatures but, maybe they are aggressive when okay, maybe Maybe.
Speaker 2:I'm thinking of koalas.
Speaker 1:Koalas are like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, koalas are mean and gross and they have chlamydia. Yeah, like rampantly.
Speaker 1:I don't know what that's about, but I don't know Anyway, but like then, black bears are pretty chill.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, black bears are pretty afraid of people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but Black bears are pretty afraid of people?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but then brown bears maybe, I don't know. I've been told a bunch of things.
Speaker 1:I don't think they're super afraid of people, but I also don't think they attack very often. Grizzly bears are big.
Speaker 2:Yeah, did we once look up the difference between brown bears and grizzly?
Speaker 1:bears. I feel like we've discussed this. I don't know if it was podcast-based or not. It wasn't or not it wasn't. We've discussed this at length.
Speaker 2:Where we've been looking it up, there's just so many kinds yeah, there's more bears than you'd think and that but like, I think they are different, aren't they? Like not all brown bears are grizzly bears.
Speaker 3:All grizzly bears are brown bears.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, cause. Yeah, there's like a distinction. I don't know Somebody who knows more about bears than us, which there's plenty of literally everyone, literally. No one knows less about bears than us yeah, most of our recent knowledge on bears comes from kids books or podcast, like three little bears or tiktok trends about not wanting to be around men over bears yeah which I think's fair well, and then the story that went really viral is the story of the guys that uh killed the lizard dragon thing.
Speaker 1:Oh man, you're on a different side of the internet. Everybody that's listening probably knows what I'm talking about. Like you know, those giant lizards that people keep as pet, like the big ones monitor.
Speaker 2:Monitor lizards.
Speaker 1:Yeah, have you heard that story?
Speaker 2:Aren't they dangerous?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:Oh, I don't know no.
Speaker 1:Like three guys recorded themselves, you know, wedding a lizard, one of those lizards in the woods, and like killed it, ended up killing it, and the footage got out and they like all got sentenced to like have her for, obviously, animal cruelty, and like all these other things yeah, and people have used that as a huge talking point with the bear man, like it's like that was a random man in the woods.
Speaker 2:Think about what they do to a person yeah anyway, yeah you're gonna have to look that up because I just butchered that story to everybody listening definitely look that up, because I just butchered that story to everybody listening, definitely look that up and don't listen to me. That goes for most things. If you really are interested in the facts of a situation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't listen to me, I'm never trying to tell a lie. I just think it was like this. Look it up.
Speaker 2:Generally, I've given a really good rough synopsis Four out of five times solid synopsis.
Speaker 1:Every once in a while I dreamed it and then I'm telling you like it's reality. Yeah.
Speaker 2:One out of five times our bare facts may be completely false.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, another voicemail.
Speaker 6:Hi Matt and Joe. My name is Carly. I actually sent in a voicemail a little over a year ago that you guys answered to whenever you guys just had Garty. I have a son that's two and a half and then I also have a second child now as well. She's 11 months old and I guess my question today is kind of geared a little bit more towards probably Matt answering Um and just curiosity if you had any ADHD, um tendencies as a child or things you can look back on now and realize like, yeah, that was definitely something I experienced my entire life.
Speaker 6:We just didn't have, you know, the know-all to realize that's what was happening. Um, in a big way with me, like I don't technically have the diagnosis right now in my life, as much with me, like I don't technically have the diagnosis right now in my life as much as I feel like I could absolutely get it. I feel like, um, my parents really struggled with trying to figure out if I had like childhood depression or anxiety or um, or like ADHD and honestly it's kind of a mix. Um, my son is two and a half and he has a hard time sitting, still staying focused, following direction. Mind you, I know he is two and a half, so I am taking every day with just reminding myself he is two and a half, but I want him to get the best learning that I feel like, or help learning that I feel like he could get if he needed it, and I just was curious what route you guys would go if you felt like your children were struggling in those ways.
Speaker 1:Thanks, I want to start and then you can answer.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:Totally normal behaviors for two and a half. I've never met a two and a half year old that doesn't struggle with direction and sitting still and all of that. That is very age appropriate and not something to stress over, but with the sentiment of what you're saying, I think Matt probably does have. I think we both have insight, so I'll let you take the lead from there.
Speaker 2:Yes, no, I absolutely had. I mean, I have ADHD and I have experienced symptoms of ADHD since I was. I mean, you'd have to ask my mom for better authority, but my mom is Toddler, like yeah.
Speaker 1:From talking to her, since you were a toddler.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and kind of the hard part and I've seen different videos on this and people talking about this is until a certain age, like several years, from where our kids are at, the symptoms are very like. A lot of them are normal toddler behavior, I think it's once you get past a certain point, or if they are in like some extremes, and then even then how things are handled aren't like. I don't think they're going to put your kid on medication.
Speaker 1:Well, I think that there is a mix-up of adults looking at children and diagnosing not necessarily diagnosing, but making assumptions based on adult symptoms of ADHD and, from what I understand not a psychiatrist, not a psychologist, not an expert just from reading some little bookity books Children that are possibly struggling with ADHD have a tendency to have more symptoms that are sensory or overstimulation or kind of things like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've had, I've I've the things I've taken in on it. Um, a lot of times focus on being on the spectrum over uh, adhd specifically, which you know spectrum, that's their interwoven. But um the this the normal behaviors of a toddler and symptoms of being on the spectrum are very similar, things like indistinguishable. A lot of them are very normal uh for that age group and so I don't know how much diagnosis uh goes on, unless things are really extreme.
Speaker 5:Um, uh, that said I said I had ADHD.
Speaker 2:Growing up, my mom was a teacher. She had a pretty good feeling I had ADHD, I just didn't, and so she kind of knew what that looked like. But especially back in the day, uh, in the nineties, over prescribing kids, uh, stimulants was very in vogue, so, uh, my mom avoided that and I managed to get through school. Um, fine, uh, I could have done better, probably if I had more therapy, more management strategies, more focus on skills that I did not develop naturally on my own, and I think that's totally the route that you have to explore as a parent if it's something you're worried about or something, because a lot of it is.
Speaker 2:You see skills that maybe you haven't developed as an adult, or you see different things that you empathize with as an adult with ADHD in a child where it is more developmentally appropriate, and so some of it is just teaching your kid developmentally, like helping them with developmental milestones. Milestones, um, like I have to teach emotional regulation when I'm not great at emotional regulation, and so sometimes we're learning the same thing at the same time and that, uh, that will make you feel like a child. But sometimes the skills you haven't built are from not building them as a child. So that's okay and I think that's kind of the mindset to take with that kind of thing. And then if things are extreme, things are out of hand. Obviously we're not child psychologists or experts yeah, we're not experts at all in this field.
Speaker 1:At anything.
Speaker 2:But yeah, consult somebody, consult even like your pediatric, consult even your pediatric people, your primary care. Yeah, we'll have insights that we have. There's a lot of people to go to before us, I guess.
Speaker 1:Well, and I don't think that's what you're asking, but I think the most important thing having a child that you think could be neurodivergent is making sure that you're paying attention to their toolkit, Like that's how.
Speaker 1:I describe it best is all of us as people no matter your neurodiverse, neurotypical we all have toolkits and we all have different tools, and you see some overlap like tools that tons of people have. Um, you know some things that are really unique and oud and odd about um that only some people have. Um, you know some things that are really unique and ood and odd about um that only some people have. And then you have some tools that people are like well, that's weird. Why the hell do you need that? You know that only some people have Um, and so really paying attention to what tools are like, is your child naturally gravitating to and how can you expand the way they utilize those tools or how can you get them acquainted with new or additional tools?
Speaker 2:Um, because that's really all it is is like uh, you know, that's like the way I think about it and describe it, and sometimes the bigger thing that you can address and um is your own things you're struggling with. Maybe you have your ADHD managed really well and that's not something for you, but if it's something you struggle with, learning more about yourself can help you provide skills to your kids. So that's a route I'm having to explore.
Speaker 1:That was a good question.
Speaker 2:Yeah, very good question.
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Speaker 4:So input input is what I'm looking for. I was like sorry.
Speaker 2:I'm not totally fair.
Speaker 1:Like fully firing apparently.
Speaker 2:No, I mean, that's usually our, our MO here, but yeah.
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Speaker 4:Bye.