Oversharing with the Overbys
Cookie Cake Crimes and Heatless Curl-Off
Oversharing this week kicks off with some Olympic week fun moments that had us in stitches and Jo shares her recent heatless curls experience, detailing the hits and misses of various styles. We then dive headfirst into a spirited debate about whether we're more Type A or Type B, but only after having to actually define the two roles and discover some surprising self-revelations that left us both questioning our own habits and quirks.
"Reads of the Week" segment brings some light-hearted fun / anxiety as we rated articles sent by my dad, touching on the intricacies of financial advice across generations, navigating insecurities in the workplace, as well as the future of Social Security. Your texts, emails, and calls round out the episode, so join us for a rollercoaster of emotions, insights, and plenty of laughs!
We are going on a break during August due to family health developments, but we'll be back and better than ever in a few weeks! Please keep contributing to the emails, voicemails, and text emails and we'll have tons of content heading your way when we return!
If you've got a voicemail or want our (likely unqualified) advice on something, hit us up at the Speakpipe link below!
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Oversharing this week kicks off with some Olympic week fun moments that had us in stitches and Jo shares her recent heatless curls experience, detailing the hits and misses of various styles. We then dive headfirst into a spirited debate about whether we're more Type A or Type B, but only after having to actually define the two roles and discover some surprising self-revelations that left us both questioning our own habits and quirks.
"Reads of the Week" segment brings some light-hearted fun / anxiety as we rated articles sent by my dad, touching on the intricacies of financial advice across generations, navigating insecurities in the workplace, as well as the future of Social Security. Your texts, emails, and calls round out the episode, so join us for a rollercoaster of emotions, insights, and plenty of laughs!
We are going on a break during August due to family health developments, but we'll be back and better than ever in a few weeks! Please keep contributing to the emails, voicemails, and text emails and we'll have tons of content heading your way when we return!
If you've got a voicemail or want our (likely unqualified) advice on something, hit us up at the Speakpipe link below!
http://www.speakpipe.com/oversharingwiththeoverbys
If you'd like to email us you can reach the pod at oversharing@jojohnsonoverby.com!
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Welcome to Oversharing with the Overbees. I'm Jo.
Speaker 2:And I'm Matt.
Speaker 1:And each week you can tune in to hear us respond to your voicemails, go in-depth on our lives as content creators and hopefully leave you feeling even better than we found you.
Speaker 2:With that being said, let's get to Oversharing. It's Olympic week, baby. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1:Oh wait, okay, so I have a Alarn Alarn, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:Alarny.
Speaker 1:Go ahead and count me out. Now it's happening now.
Speaker 2:The other hour and 10 minutes. Thanks for tuning in this week, guys.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was good this was a good podcast. I have an orange. Kiss, alarni. I'm actually feeling pretty good this morning. Are you feeling pretty?
Speaker 2:good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, our kids slept in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they did.
Speaker 1:That was okay. Yeah, it's fine. I uh, I like that. I've unconsciously well, not, I guess, very consciously uh, let me think about this, what's the right word? I just added that into the podcast, it's just yeah now. Yeah, you've just I hate asmr though which I know I've talked at length, but that's true I tried heatless curls in my hair for the first time today second time no, no, let me rephrase that the blowout curlers.
Speaker 2:It didn't go well yeah no it's the second time you made two videos about it, but like there's a different style, yeah, they're different styles, so the other one was the long rod.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to be able to do this.
Speaker 2:No, it's okay, it's going to take you a few tries.
Speaker 1:I used the long kitsch heatless curl rod. And it worked well, but that was the long one, but it wasn't as comfortable to sleep on. It wasn't uncomfortable, I think, if I would have switched up how I. I just didn't. It's a me problem.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I need more practice you did a lot of research before you put it in right uh, yeah, I did a lot like men do ikea furniture.
Speaker 1:If I'm being totally frank, this seems like slander, but continue uh, throw the instructions in the trash and just see what happens oh no, I live by the instructions.
Speaker 2:You know that about me. I don't think that you are a man with most men I didn't say I don't think you're a man yeah don't you think, though, generally speaking, you don't align with uh? I don't stereotype.
Speaker 1:Well, I guess yeah no right there and again, I do know men that would be instruction readers. I just feel like for the most part, maybe it's just us type b people. Let me not address it to men, okay, uh, anyway, that's how I did it do you think I'm?
Speaker 2:type a I think more a than b really you think you're type b interesting? Why?
Speaker 1:You just blew my mind. What do you think you are? Type F I don't know what that is. No, you're so type A.
Speaker 2:Interesting.
Speaker 1:Wait, okay, give your feedback and then let me.
Speaker 2:I will say I don't totally know what they mean.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm wondering as I'm like.
Speaker 2:Do you both not know what it means?
Speaker 1:Okay, people with a type A personality may be ambitious, aggressive and competitive, whereas people with a type b personality may be laid back, flexible and patient. So which one do you think I am?
Speaker 2:um all of the above type ab AB.
Speaker 1:No, okay.
Speaker 2:AB negative.
Speaker 1:Type A is highly competitive, ambitious, impatient and intolerant, aggressive and hostile, controlling and dominant high risk of heart disease. Sense of urgency motivated by a challenge easily stressed out.
Speaker 1:Type A for anxiety challenge, so it's easily stressed out. Type a for anxiety uh. Type b is easygoing and relaxed, highly flexible, energetic and outgoing uh, imaginative and creative, friendly and inspiring. Honestly, I hate this graphic. It basically just says that this is terrible. I don't think this is what I thought of as type A and type B. Sure, look at this. It's basically like type A people suck.
Speaker 2:It does have a picture under type A that just is like this angry, mad face.
Speaker 1:Oh, here, this is more what I want.
Speaker 2:Oh wow, your hand is cold.
Speaker 1:This is type A personality characteristics, strengths and weaknesses. Strengths of a type a personality ambitious, passionate, highly competitive I'm one of the three you don't think that? I think you're all three of those I'm ambitious? Yeah, I think you're just a perfectionist like I would actually consider you extremely ambitious. Your expectations of yourself are like here, you know, like I don't have that kind of ambition totally.
Speaker 2:I guess that's fair like.
Speaker 1:I think that you're really judging off of your record of execution, and that's not really what it's about yeah it's like how your brain works. Your weaknesses would be stubborn, uh, easily angered and intolerant.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Strengths for type B fun, loving, friendly, charismatic and a dreamer.
Speaker 2:You are a dreamer.
Speaker 1:You don't think I'm the other thing. You're all of those things. You don't think I'm fun loving Weaknesses, impatient, easily bored, self-indulgent, impulsive.
Speaker 2:I do like that. Impatient is a negative for both.
Speaker 1:Yeah it, impulsive. I do like that impatient is a negative for both. Yeah, well, is it really? Was it on both of them? I'm pretty sure? No, it wasn't stubborn, easily angered, intolerant oh, okay, I bet I feel like another list had impatient probably probably anyway, the negatives of people is sometimes they're impatient basically what it is is people don't know what type a or type b actually is. Wait, now that I've read that, what do you? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2:yeah, I'm just like a type a that's not good at it yeah, and I think I'm a type b then you're like a power type b I'm not a power type b she's a power b.
Speaker 1:No, I think I just am like. I have generally good executive function.
Speaker 2:Weird flex.
Speaker 1:It's not a flex. It's like I'm not battling the same In this house.
Speaker 2:It is Neurodiversity, no that's a flex in this house.
Speaker 1:No, it's not.
Speaker 2:Somebody's got to do it, and it ain't me.
Speaker 1:I make the bed every morning like a boss. I tucked in the bottom and I flipped the the mattress around, not the mattress the the comforter around because, it drove me insane because I'm intolerant oh yeah but did you help do the bottom because you walked in while I was making the bed, or did you help with the bottom because you wanted to?
Speaker 2:uh, I helped with the bottom because you asked me to, because I was there yeah, which is fine. I don't have a problem with that I flipped it around because I was aggressive and intolerant yeah, you were frustrated when you did that.
Speaker 1:You did that out of like just pure rage pure spite you rage flipped the comforter yeah matt thinks that I'm the only reason the sheets get all wonky in our bed you're right, it's me.
Speaker 2:I push them all onto you no then. Then you just get wrapped up in them, because I've loosened them all up for you right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's funny, though, because when I do come back and you've been staying here by yourself the bed still looks like a tornado it's because I haven't made it since you left. But how did it get to a tornado? If you're a perfectly still sleeper, don't you just have to pull back the one corner, tuck yourself in there like a little envelope and I get in and out, that's it.
Speaker 2:But I don't put it back together.
Speaker 1:You get in and out like a tornado.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh gosh.
Speaker 1:Yep, I have so many questions, you just have the one question I do yeah, that's what it sounds that's wearing braids.
Speaker 2:Today I am wearing braids, it's so cute second time in a few days now I like it.
Speaker 1:I'd like to try dutch braids on you dutch braids.
Speaker 2:What are those?
Speaker 1:it, so it's basically what you're wearing right now inside out the braids of my ancestors yeah, the braids of your ancestors. Yeah, uh, so the braid, like sits on top instead of being flat to the head on top okay it's really pretty, but I have never been able to do dutch braids ah, maybe while you're gone tonight I'll learn that you're gonna learn to french braid? Oh I don't know. I just said that that would literally make my life if you learned to french braid okay.
Speaker 2:How do I learn? What do I practice on?
Speaker 1:um, I don't know actually. I wonder if you could just get like a mannequin head I bet there's.
Speaker 2:I bet there's some kind of practice thing okay uh the dog uh the dog's hair is not long enough.
Speaker 1:I don't think it would be hard to french braid the dog's hair, though how wild would that look though truly crazy.
Speaker 1:Uh, no, I would really love that, because I can't french braid my own. Okay, I can do other people's, but I can't do my own. And it's such a bummer because I love having my hair french braided. And I have sat in front of the mirror because it's all just a skill. You know, practice, practice, practice. So I've sat in front of the mirror being like you're gonna get this, babe, you're gonna get this, trying to french braid my own and it's a hard.
Speaker 2:No, I can't do it cool did you just need like the angle, like what? Yeah, I don't know what it is. It's like I can't do it. Cool, did you just need like the angle.
Speaker 1:Like what? Yeah, I don't know what it is. It's like I can't my, I don't know, my hands and wrists don't move that way.
Speaker 2:I mean, I have really undextrous hands.
Speaker 1:A ton of people say they can only do their own, they can't do other people's.
Speaker 2:Interesting. Okay, then maybe I can do it. But I didn't learn If you can only do other people's and I can only do my own.
Speaker 1:That's going to be a hundred percent accurate. That's my life. Everybody I know is like oh, I can do my own. I'm like oh well, can you French braid mine? They're like sorry, I can't do other people's. I'm like okay, well, cool.
Speaker 2:Let's hope that's not the case.
Speaker 1:I love. I love a French braid. My mom used to always put my hair in a single french braid down the back of my head and she wore hers like that a lot too cool before her hands like stopped working well, I'll uh, I've said it before, but I'll try and figure this out.
Speaker 2:Maybe I'll film it, make content out of it. Yeah, matt learns to braid part 175 000.
Speaker 1:It's my whole channel now. Yeah yeah you have a lot of series, the laundromat yeah, that one has not taken off yet well, I think it would take off the moment you post it the moment I film it, though it could right it could be posted, as long as I film it, cut it together and make it, you know I can.
Speaker 1:I can envision it right now like welcome back to the laundromat today we have, and then you hold up whatever it is covered in, whatever it is yeah and you're like, so this is mac and cheese oil oh okay, this is mac and cheese now, because mac and cheese is a I don't know how you mess you're gonna explain. You're gonna explain, like the, why we choose what we choose to stay now got it.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna have to relearn chemistry I think that's good yeah yeah, finally that engineering degree paying off all right, well, you talk some I feel like every time I'm speaking today, you're looking at me like I'm a buffoon no, you're fun, loving, you're energetic, you are um.
Speaker 2:I forgot lots of the words to describe type b, but it would have been better if I could have kept going there.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, so how's your week been?
Speaker 2:week's been good. We got child care back today, so that's why we get to report the report, report the pod podcast. Uh, in the am report the pod podcast in the am Report, the pod podcast. But that's also. Yeah, I'm not drinking seltzers because it's 10 o'clock in the morning, so it's just not a good time to start drinking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not like last week.
Speaker 2:No, no, it's not late night, so no week's been chaotic. I feel like kind of Been trying to get everything put together, been trying to film while having the kids at like also with us, which has been tricky, but we've managed to do it a few times, so that's been good. We've gotten to do fun stuff with the kids.
Speaker 1:We've gotten a lot of time with them yeah but it'll be nice to have some supervised time I do think what I learned from this is well. The thing is, we're probably not going to have this situation much longer because our toddler's about to start preschool and like we're kind of moving on to the next step. But my thought was, if it's ever where our sitter is vacationing for a couple weeks, we should take a vacation during that time yes, yeah, that would be smart but we didn't do that no next time we are not vacation people, I want to be vacation people not in this season.
Speaker 1:Just logistically, it's um a lot right now I think we're always going to feel that way probably we need to just try it. I don't think it's logistically that much. Maybe, I really don't. I think it is combined of me being tired from all the different things that I'm trying to mentally offload and you being fearful of like something you haven't done.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean. This would have been a tough season to go vacation, though, because of what your next few months are going to look like. We didn't know that we could have already had something planned. Sure.
Speaker 1:So I don't know, I don't think we said anything on the podcast but um my family is having some medical happenings these next couple of weeks. My dad's having a pretty major surgery, um. Medical happenings these next couple weeks. My dad's having a pretty major surgery, um, and he is going to be out on being able to help my mom for the next couple of months. So we're gonna be juggling some extra, some extras yeah the next couple of months. Um, which is what matt's referring to, but you know it's what it is.
Speaker 1:We're gonna take it with stride and figure it out yeah, so, given that we're probably off the next few weeks, oh yeah, I was gonna note that, uh, given all of that, and we have not done mid-year break this year, which I believe we did in august last year as well, and so for the month of august I should have started with this. Uh, for the month of august, we are going to be out on the podcast, but when we come back in september, that is when hopefully, we're going to have the patreon model built out, um, and also come back with new episodes and hopefully be coming back. I'm really hoping to have guests on starting in the fall as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I know we've.
Speaker 1:It feels like a year now, but it probably has been probably close to um.
Speaker 2:But yeah, we're, uh, we're gonna have our hands full the next month, two months, three months, but we're going to take August away and then, um, hopefully come back. We're juvenatedated, fired up, totally like a phoenix from the ashes, I guess you know, yeah, there's not really ashes, we're doing fine, but um, yeah, anyway, I wanted to make sure we.
Speaker 1:No, that was good, I covered that and it felt like a natural we've already talked about it multiple times and I even reminded matt before we started recording that we, we were like okay, number one thing, we got a hit yeah and uh, I already forgot so good job, prime people so go matt type a type a intolerance oh, anyway, yeah, what's uh reads of the week greg reads of the week.
Speaker 2:Greg, your dad's been reading.
Speaker 1:He's been reading Greg's, my dad. He is a pretty cool dude and he likes to read news and he likes to send us articles that he reads that he feels just touches his heart and reminds him of us. And we like to read those headlines out loud on the podcast and we like to give them a rating a scale of one to five how much anxiety reading that headline gave us all righty number one.
Speaker 1:Five of gen x's biggest financial regrets and how to fix them four out of five I'm just gonna give it a three out of five, mainly because we're not in gen x, but like but I think that's what scares me is I think that it's supposed to be like a learn from me. You know, yeah, I'm sick of learning yeah I also.
Speaker 1:I don't know, maybe I'm really out of touch, but I feel like it's almost hard for gen x and boomer generation to give thoughtful advice to millennials and gen z's on finances, because the landscape of our economy is so extreme in this season it's really hard to take any advice seriously beyond the basics of like this is a Roth IRA or this is a savings account.
Speaker 2:For sure, I think there's general advice that can apply and can be useful to anybody but it is 100% dependent on individual financial situations, and so there are people that are doing very well and there are people that are not doing. Apply and can be useful to anybody, but it is 100 dependent on individual financial situations, and so there are people that are doing very well and there are people that are not doing well. A lot of people that are not doing well, um, a lot of it due to circumstances outside of their control, and so it's really tough to like give broad economic advice when things are so polarized yeah and there is like mobility is limited and access is limited and it's very, it's a very weird time so I think that's part of why it gives me
Speaker 1:yeah it spikes my, I'm like oh yeah, right that's one I'd like to read, though it doesn't freak me out as to like why yeah, I saw some article on homelessness and people who are working that are homeless.
Speaker 2:That was very upsetting and like oh what percentage of people? It's a lot of people. I would like to read that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not a fun read I know, but that's something I would like to make myself uncomfortable with, because I think that that's something that I am uh good at just pushing aside entirely, and I would like to challenge myself in that discomfort because it's a real problem and I homeless a lot of people associate like.
Speaker 2:These are people that don't have jobs or have substance or mental health issues and like are on the fringes of society. But there's a lot of people that are working like like full-time jobs, multiple jobs, and they don't make enough to pay rent or stay somewhere and so they're in their car or like whatever other options they have, and it was like. This is really sad.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, do you know where you saw that?
Speaker 2:I think I found it on tiktok and then it like just went through.
Speaker 1:I think it was a longer article, but I'd like to read that yeah we have a really, really cool organization in northwest arkansas called seven hills that does a homeless outreach. That's awesome. Yeah, just if you're local to the area and want an organization to support.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right. Another article Social Security Administration makes change that will impact millions of beneficiaries. That's it. Update, if you haven't already, best hacking protection you can have for your benefits, assuming we will have benefits One out of five.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what? I think that's a tired argument.
Speaker 2:What? Whether or not we'll have social security I get sick of that.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying I'm depending on social security.
Speaker 2:That's not really what I mean, but my dad has been saying that to me since I was for sure a child and everybody has had well, yeah, every generation that gets close is like we want our social security right and so it gets voted through because it's a very popular thing.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And so we just kind of make that money out of nowhere. It's fine, just pile it on the pile.
Speaker 1:The thing is, we shouldn't be making the money out of nowhere. The money should be Anyway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, acquired through. Yes, uh-huh, we agree on these things. Ah, oh well, I mean, do you want to parlay into a related article? Sure, I thought I was a nut job. Nearly half of non-retirees expect social security end and some are sat. Let's see what the rest of that article title is, and some are saving extra just in case. Is it time to form a contingency plan?
Speaker 1:can you read that one more time?
Speaker 2:thought I was in that job. Nearly half of non-retirees expect social security to end summer. Saving extra just in case. Is it time to form a contingency plan?
Speaker 1:I think it's always been time to plan a contingency.
Speaker 2:I know, I just said that I don't know that social security is, uh, sufficient to sustain most people, unless you already you know, unless your home's paid off and a lot of things like that, like I don't know that social security will carry. It is not a, it is not the safety net of like you can just retire on it, that I think the some people have the idea that it is, even if it is available it's really cool in theory for sure, but we don't fund it in a way that like makes that possible yeah, well, on that note, yeah, that didn't give me a lot of anxiety because it's going to be there.
Speaker 2:It's not, and you can't not pay it, so about it.
Speaker 1:Well, I kind of feel like social security. This is a privilege take, don't get me wrong sure but I feel like it's like a bonus if it happens yeah but I've always felt that way. I feel like I have a few friends who are now getting to the stage. We're talking about retirement, we're talking about long term and I've heard a lot of people discuss their parents in it. They're like, oh well, when my grandparents pass or when my parents pass, like then I'll be, and I'm like some people it's gone both ways.
Speaker 1:They're like well, they don't have anything so I have to do it on my own, or my parents are and I that's never even been in my mind. Is that like I feel very not on my own in a, um isolated like or uncared for kind of way, just very responsible for myself? Yeah, I mean, I think I think that's a privileged take oh, absolutely.
Speaker 2:It's just there's very much a. I think the safest and most conservative way to be is that those things are outside of your control directly and so saving for your future is kind of your individual I do think that's a lot of it.
Speaker 1:That's a really good way to put it. I guess it's important not to bank on things that are outside of your individual. I do think that's a lot of it.
Speaker 2:That's a really good way to put it, I guess it's important not to bank on things that are outside of your control.
Speaker 1:Right, I try to be good about what is within my control and doing the right the quote-unquote right things of what's within my control yeah, and the lifespan and financial situation of your friends and family is not in your control no, nor do I like yeah, you don't want it to be either no, and my, my thought you will die at 75 years old. I want my family to be around as long as uh possible within you know healthily and to be able to use whatever financial means they need to live a happy life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure I don't know.
Speaker 1:Anyway, this podcast is really bizarre because sometimes we get into really like. To me that was a very serious sometimes and then, uh, we're talking about what crimes we would commit yeah, I would not kick a puppy.
Speaker 2:That's not what the podcast said. All right, you want a word of the day? Word of the week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just steal these from word of the day lists a lot of times Word of the week.
Speaker 2:So, aspersion.
Speaker 1:We make a word, we teach, okay, expersion.
Speaker 2:Aspersion. Oh, as aspersion, aspersion oh, that was one of the worst sounding aspersion aspersion aspersion.
Speaker 1:Um, aspersion is a type of fish. Oh, it is, spurgeon is okay. I'm so glad to know that, because what I was gonna say is it's reminding me of like a fish out of water, but that's because my brain associates with a sturgeon okay but like that's still close enough for me, that that's probably where I was going A spurgeon.
Speaker 2:Sturgeon are big. That's a sturgeon right there. They're big fish.
Speaker 1:But it's not a sturgeon.
Speaker 2:A spurgeon, a spurgeon A-S-P.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's an A A-S-P-E-R-S-I-O-N.
Speaker 2:Spurgeon, she wants a G to be in this word so badly. Oh, there's not a G. You didn't say G, no S, okay Aspursion.
Speaker 1:Aspursion Aspursion.
Speaker 2:Like dispersion, oh okay, like the dispersion pattern of something.
Speaker 1:That totally helped me.
Speaker 2:Now define. Helped me now define it aspersion oh boy, oh, it's an attack on the reputation or integrity of someone or something.
Speaker 1:It's like a disparaging remark casting aspersion. That was somebody, not. I was not gonna get that right. I thought it was some kind of verb yeah, defamation is it a verb?
Speaker 2:no, no it's a uh it's a noun oh, it is you're gonna cast aspersions oh, it is, it's a thing.
Speaker 1:Yep, okay, dang it yeah, it's a negative, it's an attack I would love the opportunity to take english like basics of english again esl no, just like the basics that we learn when we're, because I do remember grammar yeah, we just want like grammar and sentence structure yeah, I'm sure that there's something out there I'm sure there is probably get a kid's book. I bet there's a youtube series I'll just start doing it with our toddler yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2:This will be a good opportunity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not that I don't know it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Noun person place thing.
Speaker 2:You've never been in a work structure where you use the word opportunity instead of problem, have you? No, but I'm familiar we had that when I was working.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, anything that was like a big problem was called an opportunity. You're like, oh, this is an opportunity for us to figure this out.
Speaker 1:How do you feel about that?
Speaker 2:It was used a little tongue in cheek a lot of times, but it is. It's a good mindset practice, but it's also like we all know what this is here.
Speaker 1:This is a big pile of shit, yeah.
Speaker 2:This is a pile of shit situation and we're going to have to get through it, but we're going to call it an opportunity.
Speaker 1:Well, really it is when you're at the finish line. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, think of all the things you're going to learn, think of all the strides you're going to make.
Speaker 1:That's but that's how I feel I sound when I'm talking to girls in their twenties about breakups.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, like you're going to be so glad this happened.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm like it's going to be so good Maybe. No, never, maybe I feel like it usually works out like 99% of the time.
Speaker 2:For sure. I'm sure there are some exception, but Well, yeah, yeah, there's exceptions to everything, but in all reality, like it happened because it needed to happen or because there was good reasons for it to happen, yeah, lay texts on me.
Speaker 1:I feel like we have 850 000 texts we do have some texts.
Speaker 2:We definitely have some texts texts of the week also definitely need to get to some emails too, so hey, anybody listening, that is a reader.
Speaker 1:I just want to note that the fourth uh playing for keeps book comes out on uh, the day that this is airing. Yeah, it's called fall with you or fall with me, not fall with you. Lord the first ones, consider me, then play with me, then unravel me, then fall with me, and if you haven't read them, you should read all of them. But if you have read them, it's just a reminder, because becca mac's awesome. I'm looking at the books, sorry love it, love to see it I'm just excited about it.
Speaker 2:First question yeah, question with no context. I'm curious on both of your thoughts. How would you interpret being told to stay in your own lane in professional settings, both by supervisors and or persons of power? Is it a threat? Is it a advice? Would you internalize slash? Think you're too much? It makes me want to take up more space, almost like I'm doing something right if people are telling me I'm pushing it, afraid I'm ignoring my own arrogance.
Speaker 1:Going through huge death, rebirth sound surrounding using my voice uh, yeah, it sounds to me like you're being arrogant, and if you're your leadership and everybody surrounding you is telling you to stay in your own lane, I guess it depends on the tone.
Speaker 2:It's so important to know, like who these characters are, though like yeah, I agree how secure of people are your management? Are these people who are helpful? Are these people who are?
Speaker 1:mentors to you, or they people say to somebody no, I understand that question.
Speaker 2:I understand, I'm just saying like in all reality it's important to know like how emotionally mature, how like secure are the people that are around you.
Speaker 1:Awareness to actually define other people's maturity or security. Are you somebody like? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2:I don't think that's good advice.
Speaker 1:Because I think you're hyper aware and always have been, yeah, and you can define like you don't. Something that I've always really admired about Matt is when you're talking about other people, his own insecurities and his own struggles do not reflect in his observation of other people, and I think that's a really rare find. Myself, I am not that way. I the insecurities that I do carry very much reflect in how I observe other people, and that's something I've had to work to be aware of.
Speaker 1:um, but I don't think from an organic standpoint that that even I don't even think it's part of the path your brain goes in no, you don't interpret other people through your lens of yourself, and I don't think that's common and that's why probably not that's hard advice, because I think that if you're asking this question, you're not confident in the people around you yeah, you don't have a good read on your situation and that doesn't tell me, oh, this person's really secure and understands it. Tells me that you know yeah, so that's a I think that's a really good point I think that's a really good point.
Speaker 2:Um, I clicked something and okay it's back. I almost lost I think if multiple people are telling you to stay in your lane, yeah I don't think it's my lane I don't think it's most likely a threat um I didn't take it as a threat it also can be advice, but coming from somebody who feels insecure, so it can be really tricky that way. That said, they are people who are supervisors of yours or have like to me it starts becoming a red flag when you're hearing it from multiple people yes, one person's one thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you should still be comfortable using your own voice, but definitely be able to understand that these people are in charge right and we'll have direct man. I had a better thought about that and I have lost it, so I'm sorry, I probably interrupted.
Speaker 1:You Give your thoughts.
Speaker 2:No, you didn't interrupt me, I interrupted myself, honestly.
Speaker 1:I just feel like my gut reaction is very different than yours, and the thing is I've never worked in a corporate workplace either. Yeah, so it really depends on your job title and what kind of common goals you're working toward. But for the most part, if multiple people what kind of common goals you're working toward, but for the most part, if multiple people, including including superiors, are telling me I need to stay in my lane, I am inclined to listen, because I am definitely somebody who is wanting to be in charge and I have a tendency to overstep, and so I'm going to trust that the superiors in my life are trying to keep me in check so that I can better perform within my role.
Speaker 2:For sure. Yeah, the biggest red flag to me in this is it makes me want to take up more space, because that screams demand avoidance.
Speaker 1:I know that was what I thought too.
Speaker 2:It's like my whole existence of like, oh, I'm being told this. I'm going to do the opposite because I can and I don't want to follow that guidance. And that's the part that I think you really have to steer against, because, even if you're right, if you start pushing against it and start expanding yourself, that's going to create more conflict. That's going to create more conflict. Your best way through this, if you're trying to be constructive and trying to maintain relationships and trying to put yourself in good standing with people that are in positions of power over you, is going to be trying to reframe that everybody's on the same team and going, hey, I'm looking to expand, I'm looking to make sure that I'm expressing my voice.
Speaker 2:What do you feel is the best way I can do that in this situation? How can I be constructive rather than a distraction or, um, you know, staying getting into other people's lanes? How can I stay in my lane and be the most constructive for the team, for the, whatever it is that you're in? Because I think the more you can put yourself especially with challenging personalities on the same team, the better experience you're going to have, and the more those people are going to think about you positively, the more positively your work space is going to be. Again, I'm putting this very much in a work. I guess it is professional settings. So you are in the same workplace and hopefully you have the same goals.
Speaker 1:Well, and when somebody says stay in your own lane and your response is I want to take up more space. To me that's petty.
Speaker 2:Again, it's this demand avoidance of like well, you can't control me Right, which is technically true, but also why do you feel the need to prove that? You shouldn't necessarily have super adversarial relationships. Again, there's exceptions to this and there's how things should be and how things are. But with difficult personalities, at a certain point you're going to come to a head and you're probably not going to come out over your superiors. So good luck, work on that. Demand avoidance.
Speaker 1:I'm trying I like that. You project that onto everyone. I just said you don't really project, and then you're projecting.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely just I, like, I really identify with that idea of like oh, I'm taking up too much space, watch me take up more space, watch me do more, like that is kind of textbook, but not more in like a Matt's, not like a I'll prove you wrong kind of guy.
Speaker 1:Like I feel, like I'm very inclined that if somebody tells me I can't do something, I'm going to achieve it, whereas you are much more inclined to like be destructive. I can do either.
Speaker 2:but there are times that, like being told I can't do something, is motivating, but then there's also times where it's really demotivating and then I'll go oh, you think it's bad, now Look how bad it can get.
Speaker 1:See, I've only ever seen you do that.
Speaker 2:I've really never seen you be constructive really never seen you be constructive, sure, okay, I. I don't know that, like a lot of people have challenged me in the other way often, a lot of the people that have worked close to me know what my capabilities are yeah and so they're not like well, you can't do that. They're like you can do that, but you're like imploding you're like watch me implode?
Speaker 2:I can implode so much harder. Yeah, it's like it's, it's a, it's a men like a mess up here guys. Anyway, next text hey, matt and joe, just listen to the pod where matt was talking about cooking and wanted to share our tips, physical recipe cards and meal planning. It's much easier for our adhd minds to cook dinner on autopilot if we've already made it and know that we like it, and we already know what we are having for dinner so we don't have to think about it during the day. Love that idea. It's going to require some prep that I haven't done, so I think that is a good tip. It's just going to require me getting to that part of my journey.
Speaker 1:I don't think you can do it.
Speaker 2:There it is. That's how it's done, ladies and gentlemen, and that can go one of two ways for me. I can go you know what? Watch how much. I don't do it. I'm never cooking again. I'm throwing all the pots and pans away.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:I can't cook now.
Speaker 1:And I think that's my point, or I'll be like you know what that's.
Speaker 2:That's my point. Is I or I'll be like you know what?
Speaker 1:I guess I'll cook every single meal this week and burn myself out. I've never seen you do that, though I've only ever seen you go the other way I think that's an issue with our dynamic individually like.
Speaker 2:That's something the way you respond to me not yeah, I think it's because I feel I have a fucked up relationship with how I feel in safe spaces, like I think I, when I feel too much of a safety net, I'm like watch, you'll figure it out. And when it's somewhere where I feel isolated and that I have to do it myself, I can challenge myself, and that is not a productive mindset, especially in relationships with people that care about you.
Speaker 1:I'm not trying to be critical, I was just making a joke. No, absolutely no, that was very well done. No, I know, I know.
Speaker 2:I want to cook just for my own well-being.
Speaker 1:There's lots of things that I need to do. You're a good cook too.
Speaker 2:I can, yeah, I can do my best.
Speaker 1:His best is good.
Speaker 2:I can do all right. Yeah, it's again. It's a persistent, like adhering to the rules and laws and being strict and um, having just enough knowledge to be able to be flexible, but anyway, I don't. I don't know what we did there, but let's go to the next one. How's it been having? Oh, my god can't read. How has it been so far watching your kids have siblings? I know Joe has a large age gap between your sisters and so do I. I'm the youngest by 15 and 18 years, and I was raised as a semi-only child. Now that I have a daughter and we're talking about growing our family, excited to get to experience seeing my kids grow up with siblings in the house. Very curious to watch it unfold. Do you have similar feelings?
Speaker 1:heading into parenting, did you? You have similar feelings? Yeah, I so like. Yeah, my sisters are a lot older, but they're also half siblings and they never lived in the same state as me. So those are all really important things that I note, just because, in all intents and purposes, yes, I have. I feel fortunate that I have people to call and that I do have family, but we don't have traditional sibling relationships. I would say we have more that of like. Maybe what most people are used to is like out-of-state cousins or something like that.
Speaker 1:Sure, um, close ones, close ones right no, I, I, I would say that makes sense for sure, but um we don't have sibling dynamics of like growing up in the same house or um sharing a bathroom, or like tons of memories with our parents or anything like that like yeah, you weren't butting heads on a lot of stuff, no, and we all have very separate I mean, I think anybody does but we have extremely different experiences with my dad because all of our relationships with my dad are individual, like there is not a lot of three-on-one relationship going on.
Speaker 1:All of that to say the reason I note all of that is I think the best thing you can have is siblings that are within your generation and close in age, and I'm not saying that they're guaranteed to be friends, I'm not saying they're guaranteed to get along, but I think having the opportunity is massive.
Speaker 2:Um at the very least they'll be trauma bonded if it all goes wrong well, I also am a huge um dreamer of wanting more than two.
Speaker 2:Because of that too I think that's where like doing weddings and working in a very family oriented space gave you a very different perspective on that, because I think that's where like doing weddings and working in a very family oriented space gave you a very different perspective on that, because I think that's something that really grew when you were in weddings and working with families a lot my desire for that, yeah, when you were doing photography, because I guess you were doing also family photography right when I was doing photography every single weekend, I would be with at least two immediate families.
Speaker 1:So, the bride and the groom, or the bride and the bride, or groom and groom, like their entire family and meet all of their siblings, or that they didn't have siblings. And through and through, time and time again, the families that had three or four kids seemed to have the coolest relationships.
Speaker 1:Um, in my experience now, granted, that's a very, uh, limited pool, but I don't know, I I am all for it, and watching our kids together, I'm only even more for it yeah and the thing is, I don't think that having an only, or being a family with only one or whatever, being a blended family, all of it can work oh yeah like there's no right way and it's all different yeah there's.
Speaker 2:There's pros and cons to all of it.
Speaker 1:Also, kids are expensive, kids are expensive, yeah, but I uh, I don't know. I want my kids to have siblings.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Even if their college isn't entirely paid for X, y, z, whatever it is. I'd rather them have siblings than.
Speaker 2:We're going to raise them to do trades and they're going to make more than their friends in college anyway.
Speaker 1:I bet that's not even going to be a thing by the time. College Like I don't, I don't college, no trades.
Speaker 2:I was like we're going to need wires and plumbing.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think that's a prediction of mine and I don't think it's like a hot take or anything. But I don't think college is going to be mainstream. I think it's already moving that direction, but I think that it's going to be long gone by the time our kids Not gone, it's not that people won't go. But it's not gonna be the automatic next step anymore well, I mean it's.
Speaker 1:It can't be for a lot of people just financially, but then also um it has bankrupt most of our generation yeah and it was most of our generation did that because we were told so clearly that that's what you have to do.
Speaker 2:Next step in order to have a secure life, like mobility, yeah it's not going to happen yeah, yeah, there has to be big changes that.
Speaker 2:That said, we have a great like our secondary education system is really good at some things and like I think it is a good step for people like it's not the worst thing in the world, but but the the financial and a lot of the bureaucratic things that are really woven through it are not great. So we'll see, we're not there yet, but it's been really good having kids that are like obviously it's more to deal with two kids at one time, but as they get older they like just week by week. You're like wow, they're really building a relationship and that's been a lot of fun I agree all right.
Speaker 2:Next one hi, joe and matt recently discovered your podcast and have been listening, watching all the episodes. You've been keeping me company during our recent move. I have a question for joe what are your top three favorite contemporary romance novels you've read in the last year? Do you have a favorite trope? Second chance friends to lovers, enemies to lovers let me pull up what do you got?
Speaker 1:my story graph. Um, I don't have a preference. I don't really have a trope that I'm like. This one does it for me what are your hatedes?
Speaker 2:I know you've got some tropes that you really you know what I've actually recently let that go. You've grown on miscommunication tropes Wow.
Speaker 1:Okay, you're right. No, I really do hate a miscommunication trope. I was like because I know for a fact you despise miscommunication, You're like talk to each other.
Speaker 2:Use your words, damn it.
Speaker 1:We do a podcast every week about this no, I was thinking about how I often have said I don't like a uh accidental pregnancy trope and I've been proven wrong twice now and I think I just don't like poorly written ones, which makes sense you don't like poor writing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I hot take well, I don't like bad books, but it doesn't have to be.
Speaker 1:It doesn't have to be, it doesn't have to be scholarly writing. It's not that. It's just like it needs to be.
Speaker 2:It needs to have a real Tell me your most scholarly written romance novel you've read. I would love to hear that.
Speaker 1:I feel like you're being mean to me.
Speaker 2:I'm not trying to be mean, I was trying to be funny.
Speaker 1:Definitely Just for the Summer by Abbyimenez is my number one. Uh, I loved and I don't know if this is gonna count for contemporary romance. I guess not, because I I was gonna say that I loved the very secret society of irregular witches, which is like a cozy fantasy romance. Um, I read that last fall and love, love, love, loved it in the fall it was like the perfect time are they contemporary witches to read it?
Speaker 1:yeah, okay, I think it counts then uh, I loved out on a limb, um, by hannah bonham young. I thought that was fantastic. Her writing was great and really inclusive and it gave some really inside looks into disabilities. I loved Practice Makes Perfect by Sarah Adams, which was a really light read and very sweet. It's the second one, and Just for the Summer is the third one in Part of your World series by Abby Jimenez. I love Abby Jimenez. I mean, I think that would be my number one recommendation is to read all of her books. Her writing is just, I mean, it's exceptional. She's so good. I think those would be my, my top ones. I don't read a ton of. I read a lot of romance, but I don't read a ton of contemporary romance. I read a lot of, uh, not the dark, dark romance, but kind of iffy, sure, not some of the really dark stuff. I've tried, but it I'm, I I can't get on. No, no judgment, but I can't get on board. I'm like whoa, guys, this is a problem for me.
Speaker 1:Um, and I do a lot of romantasy, um yeah and I also do a lot of just romance or a lot of not romance fantasy uh, period, oh house. I guess that's not a romance, that's just a contemporary fantasy house in the cerulean seas, like one of my favorite books of all time.
Speaker 2:Um, anyway, okay, I feel pretty good yeah, I think you've covered it for sure. That's definitely more than a top three. One more question I've stayed off instagram for a year now and was never on tiktok, but I wanted to see some of your content after discovering your podcast, and so I downloaded both apps. Wild to me that people discover us through our podcast.
Speaker 1:That is really crazy, but we're so happy to have you. It's. It's exciting. I can't describe how happy.
Speaker 2:Love your content, obviously, but I plan to stay off social media. Instagram has never worked well for my mental health. I prefer YouTube for content instead. I noticed that YouTube does not have all your reels and TikToks. Is there a reason you don't post all your reels? Slash TikToks to YouTube Shorts. Is it straightforward to post the forums? I love your podcast.
Speaker 1:I'm looking forward to newer episodes well, matt, you want to answer that one hold on.
Speaker 2:There are some nuances to that, for sure one that's been matt's response.
Speaker 1:Like when we broke up, when matt left his job and, uh, we started working together on the podcast and everything, one of the things that we said is that, uh, matt was going to be the one to repost content to other channels to other platforms.
Speaker 2:Some yeah, I've gone through spurts of putting up content on other channels um it's very time consuming because, uh, youtube shorts has a limit of what 60 seconds 60 seconds, uh, and a lot of our content.
Speaker 1:I'm sure that was very strategic by TikTok. A lot of our content online is longer than a minute. Most of my stuff on Instagram is limited to 90 seconds, so I create all of my content for TikTok and if it translates to be able to go up on Instagram Reels, I will, but most of my content's longer than 90 seconds, yeah that's.
Speaker 2:That's exactly where I was going to go with. It is, they have these different lengths and they also perform differently based on those lengths. Um like for sure, shorts and reels are designed to be shorter.
Speaker 2:That is the content that performs better there. Tiktok has a better space for longer form content and I think that's more organic to the way we talk and operate and the way we put videos together. And so, yeah, we can put a 90 to two and a half minute video together, but then chopping that down into something that's digestible in 60 seconds is really hard because, in all honesty, digestible in 60 seconds is really hard because, in all honesty, like the few videos that I've just made, I'm cutting down 25 to 50 minutes of footage and I'm trying to cut that down into my last. One was two and a half minutes long. I don't know of a way that I can cut that into 60 seconds I guess you could do parts.
Speaker 1:I would have to do parts, I just don't feel like it's quite as entertaining.
Speaker 2:Parts I don't feel like do. I would have to find a way to make all the parts really engaging. And this is all on top of making a video in the first place. Like, making a video in the first place that is entertaining, even if it's three minutes long, is not the easiest. And so now you're talking about taking that into either three one-minute parts. But, and so now you're talking about taking that into either three one-minute parts, but where that falls in a minute, like if you just cut the first 60 seconds out of video, that video sucks.
Speaker 2:And then you put not necessarily but there's a good chance it does. And then you put the middle 60 seconds up. What if somebody finds the middle 60 seconds first? Like what is that?
Speaker 1:laughing at the listening. Do you talk about this the way you are?
Speaker 2:because matt really has not made his own content for the most part oh, I have a whole week, two weeks under my belt here and I mean, no, I'm not being critical.
Speaker 1:I think what you're saying is very true, but I love listening to you because you've had your first couple weeks like matt's been editing himself and everything. So he filmed footage this week of cleaning out the freezer and you ended up with how much footage 58 minutes or something no like 49 minutes okay, 49 minutes of footage, and how long did it take you to edit that video down?
Speaker 2:two hours at least. What? Two hours I of like concentrated time and I didn't get it done for a day I was gonna say that it took you three to four hours.
Speaker 1:It was gonna be, oh, probably okay I don't know.
Speaker 2:I have time blindness, so let's not have me report time accurately, sorry sorry, I wasn't trying to like.
Speaker 1:I thought you were, but it took me I thought you were gonna say way longer than that two, three, four hours over the course of a day and a half yeah too like it was not um, and I still, I put in about an hour on it myself. Yeah, yeah you helped me clean.
Speaker 1:Basically, I cut it down to about three and a half to four minutes three to four hours to cut it down, and then it took me an additional hour to clean it up yeah, to clean it up and cut that down to two and a half yeah, and I am by and then I had to speed it up yeah, I'm by no means arguing.
Speaker 2:It's so hard, it's so like no, I'm never gonna be that girl. It's a great job.
Speaker 1:It is not what people think it is, but it's good but, oh boy, like watching you, I had a lot of uh gratitude toward me getting faster editing oh for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I know how hard it is for you to watch other people slowly put a video together it is and it isn't like at least me.
Speaker 1:It's hard for you to watch I struggle watching you and it is a me problem in that I carry a lot of resentment that I need to work through. Of all the years you've had the opportunity to learn and haven't, and it's not fair for me it's. I feel like this is the conversation we're having with politics right now, too. It's like I want you to learn, and so now that you're learning, I should be encouraging it, not getting frustrated that you didn't get to the point sooner.
Speaker 2:You'd be so fast if you'd have done this two years ago when I asked you to right and it's like that's not productive or helpful and it's not a helpful feeling from me no, no, it is not. I can say from the other end.
Speaker 2:It is not a helpful feeling, um but you've been doing really good yes, yeah, and so all that to say it is something we're working on improving, like realistically, we should be putting it up on reels and we should be putting it up on facebook, but neither one of us has really felt that even I don't want to do facebook. People are mean yeah, facebook's a weird bot ghost town with like ai content and old people that are just like what is this stuff?
Speaker 1:they're cruel. Yeah, the comments are cruel they um.
Speaker 2:The thing about facebook is people feel really comfortable giving their opinion, and it's I feel like youtube can be that way too youtube has that that reputation for sure. But I don't read the comments the thing about youtube is it's so much easier to get past the comments.
Speaker 2:I feel like I feel like half of the platform on facebook is the comments yeah, like the comments and the dialogue is what facebook is yeah and video content is what youtube is, and you can just watch video content and never look at the comments and, as a creator, you can be like, I just don't click that comment stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm like, I don't want to know.
Speaker 2:Facebook's like somebody told you to go fuck yourself. Somebody said you're ugly and that your eyes aren't the same size, and you're like true, but it hurts my feelings.
Speaker 1:I didn't need that at the top of the notification stack. You guys can point out that my eyes are different sizes. I know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, anyway, that's random. I'm trying not to overpromise, but we will work on it.
Speaker 1:Matt's going to make effort on that.
Speaker 2:The funny thing is is like a lot of our early content is what fits in a minute, like we have a lot of stuff that is in the 30 to 60 like second range because that was the limit.
Speaker 1:Like this trends from four years ago, we already saw this on tiktok five years.
Speaker 2:You're like, yeah, that's when we made it, that's when we made content that was 35 seconds long, because they wouldn't let us make anything longer we didn't feel like it fit us very well.
Speaker 1:When I started they said eight seconds was like the it's really interesting how it is shifting and changing.
Speaker 2:They've all kind of gone into their own niche and so I think YouTube is very much in this 30 seconds and under. A lot of stuff like there is some longer content, but reels, especially If you're doing long format.
Speaker 1:They want you to post a youtube video. Yeah, they want it. Yeah, they want it to be 11 minutes long right and go up on yeah, they want it that way I really enjoyed making long format youtube content when I did it yeah it was just so hard which is yeah, which is funny, because now we make, we take a ton of footage and then cut it down into two minutes. It's way easier for me to edit on my phone using the tools that I have, though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's fair, because that's interesting. We also don't film in the same aspect ratio. Right, youtube wants you to make wide videos.
Speaker 1:Actually, tiktok is wanting people to make wide videos now, but they're not performing well and they're weird like it's the the stipulations on the wide videos.
Speaker 2:I feel like they want them to be shorter but wide, and you're like I don't know how to do this anyway, let's, let's we've gotten down a real rabbit hole, but I want to note before I go there.
Speaker 1:I love that you listen to the podcast and don't have other socials. I think that's really cool.
Speaker 2:I was going to applaud that as well. Good job, knowing that social media, at least certain social medias are not good for you. And abiding by that, yeah, and having boundaries and being like I like this stuff and it's bad for me, Like that's a very mature mindset.
Speaker 1:If somebody tells you to stay in your lane at work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, maybe you need to take on more space, I don't know. No, no, anyway, thank you All right. Another one Love listening to the pod and figured out try and send in a text, since you guys haven't gotten any. We have gotten texts, guys, we're we're doing good. Now Keep sending them. That is not a like slow down, but anyway, thank you guys. With college starting again soon, I'm feeling anxious and not excited. I'm not feeling anxious because I don't think this is the right path for me, because I know that it is. I've dreamed about being a nurse for as long as I can remember. I just don't feel excited like I usually do when this time rolls around any tips on how to survive college and stay motivated. I am just not feeling the way I normally do about school starting again.
Speaker 1:Thanks, love the pod that's hard for me because I I kind of relate to that, not with college, but with. I've found myself kind of in that spot with life of like there's not much that I get really excited about anymore and I hate it because I think that's really the point of living, um. So I think that if you're not getting excited about it, definitely kind of taking inventory of what are the pain points, what is stifling that excitement what are you what?
Speaker 2:what are you missing that?
Speaker 1:was there before. Like what's there that's causing anxiousness or nervousness? Like really taking inventory, like write down, like what are things you got really excited about? You know before what really? And and with those things, what's causing you to not feel excited about them this go around?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think sometimes it can almost be like, well, I'm getting to the end of this, and then there's this new jump that I'm going to have to take. Like that can be overwhelming. And that can be like oh no, I'm on the downhill side of this. I think people get this way with like age. They're like oh, I'm about to turn 30.
Speaker 2:I'm on the downhill side, my 20s are over and I think sometimes just coming to the end of a season can be anxiety inducing or it can take some of the excitement out of that.
Speaker 1:It's also mental.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it can be totally unrelated and just that's a mental space that you're in, but I think that's great advice to just really look in and try and figure out, break down individually what are the obstacles, what are the things that you've been excited for that you aren't.
Speaker 1:And think about what does make you excited right now. Because there are things, even if you're not participating in them, like I would be excited if now. Yeah, there are things, even if you're not participating in them, like I would be excited if so, like a huge thing for me that I still love to do, that I don't do a lot of is, uh, take pictures, um, of our family, of me, of matt, whatever, like I love to go, do a fun little styled shoot, take 10, 15 minutes, edit photos, do something creative. I don't something creative. I don't do it anymore. I don't do it because it has felt to me like the people that I'm participating in that activity with don't enjoy it, and so I've stopped. But I don't know that it's true that Matt doesn't enjoy it, it's just it's never going to be to Matt what it is to me and that's okay. That's something he participates in because I love it Right, but at least you can say what you think.
Speaker 1:That's how I've translated it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have my own set of issues of being in front of a camera and my own self image that affect a lot of that stuff, much more than my feeling about the. The practice.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You've uh, you've learned to appreciate yourself a lot more than I have, and so I tend to see things I'm insecure about when I do that and like not even necessarily things that I think I should be or that I think other people will notice there's just if, like, I don't feel like I'm my best, I don't always enjoy being in front of the camera, and so that's a little mental hurdle that probably should be jumped over at some point. Working it anyway. Another one regarding joe seeing her greg's reads jingle inserting different words for emails, voicemails. I think about coming up with jingles for you. Have I done that? Absolutely not, but I have joe's confidence.
Speaker 2:That being said, I bet you have ton of talented listeners who are fully capable of writing jingler, jingles, writing jingles. Would you consider hosting a jingle writing challenge?
Speaker 1:Yes, the challenge. It's happening right now.
Speaker 2:The challenge, the gauntlets been dropped.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, if you guys are like have a jingle or a vision or anything, send it, record it, send it to us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, shoot it to the email.
Speaker 1:We'll pop it in the pod.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, we have a month that we can.
Speaker 1:Even if we didn't Like call the voicemail. Yeah, Give me a little ring-a-ling.
Speaker 2:Maybe I need to get a soundboard together before we come back.
Speaker 1:Reads of the week Pop pop.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Word of the week voicemail everything's just out of the box forever and always.
Speaker 2:We're gonna get just endless out of the box. It's not easy its own thing like uh yeah, word of the week oh, okay, I was like what is happening got it. Those are record scratches.
Speaker 1:For those of you that didn't pick that up, I never said I was good no we actually have an incredible dj friend that made our music for oversharing and for middle ground yeah, yeah, that's great. Did a great job but so yeah, if you want to make stuff, send it, we'll if we get a bunch of them like we, we can do a uh jingle off jingle off, a jingler off I don't think that's.
Speaker 2:I don't like that you don't like the word jingler no, I really don't.
Speaker 2:That's a zero for me oh, okay, well all right, you'll do one more before we call it well, I want to do two more, and then I'll get us through what we got okay, great. And then I'll give people the month to the reload to reload eat I saw joe's ig story about celebrating with a frostingless cookie cake and I feel perturbed. Is it really still a cookie cake if there's no frosting? We'd love to hear more about this very serious, troubling matter.
Speaker 1:Love y'all in the content no, it just is a giant cookie, then, which, honestly, is great with me because I don't love frosting. But, agree, I don't think you can call it a cookie cake if it doesn't have the frosting on it. It's just a big cookie, don't you think?
Speaker 2:I think it's a cookie cake.
Speaker 1:Oh, you do. That shocked me, I do I think it's the format. Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:I think it's a thickness and format change.
Speaker 1:I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2:Like it's presented like a cake.
Speaker 1:I trust Matt wholeheartedly, so I thought Matt would for sure say that it was not.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because he refused to participate. It was his birthday cake and he's like no icing, Uh-uh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay. Well, I'm trying not to eat carbs, and cookie cakes are notoriously not carb light. And when?
Speaker 1:it didn't have frosting.
Speaker 2:I was like even tempting, that's just a big cookie, and it was peanut butter, which you don't like.
Speaker 1:Yeah it was. There was a lot of butter, but you don't, yes, it's not your favorite chocolate, your peanut butter cookie is not. I don't love it in cookies for some reason they brought it in and I was like this is joe, was like my mark and I are on the same freaking page yeah, father-in-law-law, daughter-in-law, besties. Yeah, just pallets Peanut butter, chocolate chip, no frosting.
Speaker 2:Pallets of champions between the two of you, yeah.
Speaker 1:And we did it with ice cream.
Speaker 2:We should just swap birthdays and then you can have a birthday close to my dad.
Speaker 1:I would love that.
Speaker 2:You can co-celebrate with Mark.
Speaker 1:I want to be a Leo.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean yeah, and Mark's down, he's like whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's probably the Leo in him. It's not me, but I want to learn about Zodiacs so bad?
Speaker 2:Why.
Speaker 1:I just think it's so much fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know anything about it, my therapist was.
Speaker 2:She was like you don't strike me as somebody who's like into the Zodiac. And I was like you don't strike me as somebody who's like into the zodiac. And I was like no, I was like it's okay, like I can accept it as much as anything else anyone else believes like. It doesn't make less sense to me than a lot of things people think, but it doesn't make more sense either. I'm not like really what?
Speaker 1:it doesn't make more sense. No.
Speaker 2:No, what the stars were doing when you were born.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:No, no, that means nothing to me.
Speaker 1:Really, I think it has no effect on anything. Oh, that's devastating.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I think like what people? Eat and where they live makes way more difference than the stars, but like think about the tide in the ocean, the moon, how the moon works, uh-huh, that's not the stars, it's not. Is the zodiac about the moon? I guess the moon is related. There's like a moon part of it yeah it's, but the whole thing is stars like it's seasons, it's planets point okay and what is not a planet.
Speaker 2:Okay I thought you're about to tell me the moon was a planet yeah, the planet, our moon we replaced pluto with the moon?
Speaker 1:no, anyway it doesn't make more sense.
Speaker 2:You can observe that the moon has gravitational pull enough to control the ocean uh-huh but you don't think that impacts people I think that affects the day night cycle right if we had a whole thing that was like well, you were born in the morning, so this is what's up, but unrelated to the planets and the stars. Is that the thing? Am I just talking about zodiac?
Speaker 1:yes, I don't know, like everything you're saying. You're like, well, I mean, if it was like this.
Speaker 2:I'm like that's what it is, and you're like, well, if it was like this, like just the um matt's actually a massive zodiac guy oh my gosh, I'm not, I just I don't I like it makes more sense to me than some things okay, that's fine again, I'm with you.
Speaker 1:I get it, but I'd like to learn more about it that's fine, that's great I think it's.
Speaker 2:I think it's a really fun thing for people okay, that's a cancer yeah, on society and I always hated. That is my sign. I thought it was really lame because like one. The word cancer is not like an appealing. You're like oh, cancer, yikes. And then the sign is a crab. And there's like so many cooler animals in there, leo, for example, like you got your lions, you got your scorpions you know, if you would have been born one day later, you'd be a leo.
Speaker 2:I do know that, and I was always kind of upset about it. I was like, oh cool, I don't get to be a lion, I get to be a crab.
Speaker 1:I just want you to know cool that's so cancer of you. I actually have no idea, but I want to say that yeah, I don't know anything about anything.
Speaker 2:I feel like people just say that's whatever of you a hundred percent like.
Speaker 1:I agree with that, because they're all kind of just generally like this is how people are.
Speaker 2:Last one, adding to the hot dog is a sandwich or is a hot dog a sandwich? Debate is cereal soup no.
Speaker 1:Yes, oh, damn, it no.
Speaker 2:What do you mean?
Speaker 1:No, how is it not?
Speaker 2:How is it? It's kind of like pasta in a liquid, is it?
Speaker 1:because when you eat cereal, oh, I eat it dry. Uh-huh, so is cereal soup.
Speaker 2:No, for me it would be a like a dry snack, but when you put it in milk, the question wasn't that's a great point. All right distinction dry cereal, not soup. If you eat a box of mac and cheese that you haven't made, it's just dry noodles is mac and cheese with a liquidy cheese soup if it's liquidy enough, yes, I.
Speaker 1:I hate this, this. I hate it here. On that note, we love you guys and we'll see you in September she refuses to participate in this debate. I do.
Speaker 2:That's hilarious, all right. Well, we appreciate y'all.
Speaker 1:We'll be back soon.
Speaker 2:All right, bye.