Episode 13: Love, Money, and Video Games: Drego Mill on the Multi-faceted World of Gaming

© 2023 Raw Material Entertainment
Hosted by: The Global Zoe, Eric Biddines & Drego Mill

Join us on a fascinating journey as we explore the world of gaming and its intersection with music, featuring Drego Mill. Known for his prowess as a producer and promoter, Drego gives us invaluable insights into the lucrative world of streaming and the potential for artists, gamers, and entertainers to monetize their passions. Imagine, earning up to $250,000 a month just like popular gamer T-Grizzley, even if you're not the top player in the game. Intrigued? Let's power up.

Our discussions delve deeper into the social dynamics of the gaming landscape. Hear about the surprising statistics on how gaming can affect relationships, with 30% of successful relationships being at risk. Drego gets candid about his personal journey of juggling love and gaming. Brace yourself for a revealing discussion on gaming addiction, its power, and how to prioritize your relationships without compromising your love for the game.

Lastly, we take a hard look at how men cope when their partners reject their gaming hobbies. We ponder the idea of gaming as a love language, and how it can either create a bond or be a form of escape. Whether you're a hardcore gamer or just a casual player, join us as we navigate the high scores and the heartaches. Buckle up, and let's hit play!

⏰ Chapter Markers ⏰
0:00 - Gamers, Streaming, and Income Opportunities
12:00 - Gaming and Building a Career
22:48 - Gamer Challenges in Relationships
35:23 - Gaming Addiction and Prioritizing Relationships
41:07 - The Impact of Gaming on Relationships

⭐ Support: Help us continue making great content for listeners everywhere ➣ https://www.buzzsprout.com/2082493/support

More than just a Podcast, It’s a Movement”❗️

➣ Watch "Xposure Podcast" on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkY1...
➣ Follow "Xposure Podcast" on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/xposurepodc...
➣ Like "Xposure Podcast" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...
➣ For Guest Appearances, Sponsorship & Bookings: xposurethepodcast@gmail.com
➣ Visit our official website: https://www.XposurePodcast.com

Luc Belaire
America's #1 sparkling wine or Champagne brand, Luc Belaire exemplifies quality, heritage & style.

4 Cardinals Direct Primary Care
DPC is a membership-based health plan for comprehensive routine primary care health services.

Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

So you was just sharing, right, you've been posting. I mean, you've always been posting some clips, but recently you got, I want to say, more engagement than the norm from a different audience that follow you from the producer side or maybe exposure side. So what's been going on? Because I know you in the forefront, I know a lot of people who talk, that talk, but you live it Like you're on Twitch religiously, whether it's, like I said, the confidence you have from doing hooks and beats in front of the world, like I like to let people listen when things are complete, but you go ahead and say I'm going to create in front of the world, right? So that's one thing I want to see where that confidence comes from, but also the people that are reaching out is that you see more and more people trying to get into the content creating when it comes to gaming. Talk about exposure. You need the exposure. You got to touch the streets. You need that street credibility.

Speaker 2: 0:51

You need that promotion, and that's what exposure provides for the peace.

Speaker 1: 0:56

Welcome to the enemy team side. I'm out here at MIA going on, like I always do, watching exposure.

Speaker 3: 1:01

Getting hit in the head with that exposure. Know what it is, them down dollars. Ray Lowe, number one DJs, number one promoters for show from Palm Beach. It's exposed. That's why it opened up. Y'all check it out. You know what I'm saying. Keep it locked all over the floor and you are watching exposure.

Speaker 2: 1:23

Most definitely. It's crazy because music and gaming they connect in so many ways. Long story short, of course I got a lot of artists that follows me and rappers and stuff like that. They always come at me like, how do you do this and how do you do that? We're all gamers. I'm gonna say we're all gamers and we all connect With the streaming. The streaming and gaming is just another source of income. You know what I'm saying. So you do it anyway. Why not do it and get paid and do it? You know what I'm saying. I was told that at the very beginning and used to do it for hours in the day. You know what I'm saying. I'm not gonna lie 10 hours maybe sometimes. And I was told one time from someone yo, you game anyway, why not just stream it? You don't know what could come with it and I did it and income comes in that way. You know what I'm saying. And you can make clips, post them here, post them there and make another source of income. So, yeah, that's part of it.

Speaker 1: 2:21

So what is that confidence? So what made you say, okay, one thing to gain, but now let me record it and let people watch, right? So was it just were you able to focus on the bag, and that allows you to build that confidence.

Speaker 2: 2:33

The bag. When it came to the bag, that wasn't even a thought. The confidence we're doing in front of people started in this actual studio. I would start from fresh and there would be at least maybe 15 guys behind me hearing me start from fresh and when I put it together, everybody's going crazy because they're seeing my, they get to see my thoughts in real life. So I may be humming it and it comes into real life. So that's where it started in the studio. And then I liked the pressure of having people watching and being in presence while I'm doing it. So that's where the confidence came from. So if someone is pause, it's different.

Speaker 2: 3:11

But if I have an audience it's for some reason it gives me an ego boost. Someone gave me a metaphor one time when I said this live on stream. It was like you got that mama effect. He loves when he has an audience watching him perform and being good at what he does. So I thought I was like you know what? I grew a confidence to do this live. I didn't used to back then. I used to turn off my camera, couldn't take it at one point, but I was like forget it, if I'm going to do it. I got to go 100% and do it and for some reason again, when it's like 10, 15, maybe 20 people watching me do it, the pressure is on and it's easier for me to let it out when I have people watching me do it. So that's what actually brought up the confidence.

Speaker 1: 3:55

And do you see a shift? Cause I know what you do and I've always heard of it. Right, it would have come across me from watching even T-Pain, but it seems like when T-Greaseley talked about how much money he made by creating his own world and putting his boys on, I saw a lot of rappers or I would say more artists diving that direction and really promote gaming and what they do.

Speaker 2: 4:23

Right Again, like I said, there's gamers inside of all of us. Man and I think he was doing it before, he was streaming it and it's either the people. I think that his team or someone that he was doing it with was saying hey look, I had my own, you should create yours and stream it. People will watch it. If you already have a following base, I don't care. You're a rapper, whatever you're doing, you have a following base. You're gonna have a gaming community behind you regardless, and they're very, very, very committed and loyal to your gaming and your streaming. When it comes to that base and he's making 200, 250 a month Just 250,000? Yes, a month. Who T-Greaseley on Twitch? This is just a streaming software. The.

Speaker 2: 5:16

Rackle website yeah, he's a rapper and that's as a rapper, just having fun and sitting at home with his friends making 200, 250 a month.

Speaker 3: 5:28

This is including Do you have to be good. Okay, so he's good, he's good.

Speaker 2: 5:36

So what he's doing, it's called GTA5 RP. So RP is role play and he's playing. He created a character. It's him, but he's playing as a different character in the world of the city of the game. So GTA is a huge. It's right now. Five is LA. I think it's LA.

Speaker 1: 5:59

Okay.

Speaker 2: 6:00

And you can create a player and you can play as a cop, a medic or a hustler. You could play characters, roles in the game and then you're using your voice and interacting with real life other people within the city. So stuff is happening in the city while you're doing what you're doing like real life, gotcha. So it's your role playing. So, but like right now, how we're doing this, but we're just in our own home with our characters pointing, doing this, doing that with our characters Welcome around stealing people's cars but we're role playing with our voices. So when I get close enough, you can hear my voice, like in real life. If I'm too far in the house next door and I'm talking to, you won't hear me. Now, if I come through your door and I'm knocking on your door and we're speaking, that's how the game works. So he has Thousands and thousands of people watching them and they're subscribing and they're donating and All adds up and then he charges people to be part of his server.

Speaker 1: 6:55

Yeah, that's where I think he's definitely Generating revenue on charging people, right. And I also notice he got a YouTube channel where he and then he repurposes that that content, right, what he's putting it on his YouTube channel for you to go watch.

Speaker 3: 7:09

So how do he get a server? Do everybody get a server?

Speaker 2: 7:12

Um, the game already has all that built in on a PC side so you can go and purchase a Serving. You pay monthly on it. Now again, if your service loaded with people, they to come in and get it. You know that, pay for it, and I would charge for it to you, which which you can, because you're creating a whole community.

Speaker 3: 7:31

So what system? So is there a system separate from the server that Manages the charging and the fees in the?

Speaker 2: 7:39

yes, the company that created a game which is called rockstar. Yes, it's their servers, and if, when you rent it out, you can do what you want with inside of your server, wow so in.

Speaker 3: 7:53

So in his server he made the rules he makes the rules.

Speaker 2: 7:58

He creates almost anything like he makes the rules. He has a follow-up, so he has admins that runs it for him while he's not there.

Speaker 3: 8:07

But yes, correct so so it's like to 250,000 dollars a month. Mm-hmm. Where is one to learn how to get in these industries? Like cuz I got, I got kids. Is there any schools? And the universities like because, this seemed like a legit thing.

Speaker 2: 8:28

Very legit. Um, it's actually again all online on the game. It's actually self taught actually to. It's not really tough it's. The hard part is to get people is To get like if your service poppin, people's gonna want to be part of it, like the heart again if you have a follow base. The hardest part is is to get People to come play in your server. So you have a server. I do not have a GTA server. People want me to be a. People want me. I've played the regular storyline and played online and just shoot people up and then maybe get out of here.

Speaker 3: 9:02

But which in the way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way way. That's who you, that's what you do. What are?

Speaker 2: 9:08

you going to just call me a chicken.

Speaker 1: 9:09

Yeah, that's what, that's what it looked like to me. You punch somebody, you still a car. What all? What all can you do on that?

Speaker 3: 9:16

off. So gta, the top five things you think people go on GTA to do.

Speaker 2: 9:22

Okay, so let me let me explain the story side. The story side is they have three different care players on there on the game, which is a black guy? There's a regular country Trella Park, a white guy on there and there's another rich white guy that's on there. So the story side is always the what actually creates the game. People go in and play a storyline and they enjoy the storyline because it's like a movie and you have to grind up from the bottom and make a name for yourself. You're not really making a name for yourself, but make some money for yourself to do what you want to do. Now, the multiplayer side is the online side. You have to have internet to play that. Now that part. You create a player. There's contract jobs that you run into people within the game to make money within the game so you can be a taxi driver.

Speaker 2: 10:15

You can go do a mission where someone tells you hey, we need you to go rob this bank and this is how we're going to cut it, and they set up and within the game like a storyline, this is the plan. You could do this A, b and C. Which plan do you guys rather do? This is all multiplayer playing with friends for players. Now, they already did this. This is just multiplayer, but you can do this kind of on our piece, up to you. So it's just an open world game where, on multiplayer, where you just go do contract jobs to make money for your creative player, where you level up and can unlock more stuff for your player Buy houses, upgrade your engine in your car, buy cars that's where they make their more money, all their money. Actually, gta they're always releasing some type of different kind of car and you can go and upgrade it, put tires whatever, so you can also be poor in there.

Speaker 2: 11:06

You can be very poor, but you're not going to get anything, so you have to grind from the bottom up.

Speaker 3: 11:17

So there's rich people within the game, correct, and so they employ a bunch of people. Like it is tea, is he like he run everything in his server? Um, like the top dog that or is there people within his server more powerful than him?

Speaker 2: 11:41

Um, I think he's the top dog, but the point is you're getting to interact with t grizzle and and, again, like, like, we're having a conversation. You might he might have somebody on his server. That's probably not popular, but he's, he's funny as hell and he's he's the people that are watching. Now you may not be on camera, but again, when you talk, your player, mouth moves and everything like that. You're moving around, you're having a conversation and she's funny as hell. So the point is you're interacting with each other and the people that are thousands of people that are watching they're laughing. It's like them that people actually turn it on could be at work having on their second screen and they hear it and they may not be watching it, but they're enjoying it like everybody else that's actually watching it.

Speaker 1: 12:23

And I want to say my 10 year old son, he, he, sometimes he just has it playing on the short instead of just be playing.

Speaker 1: 12:30

But it's other people playing the game and I'm like why you enjoy? You know, and I'm always asking how come you enjoy watching other people play the game? Why don't you just go play? But, like you said, he gets a different kind of entertainment from it, from just watching, and I didn't understand it. But now had you explaining it to me. It makes a little bit more sense how you don't understand it.

Speaker 3: 12:48

you watch, you watch sports.

Speaker 1: 12:50

Uh, yeah, um why are you just gonna why? You just don't go play, because I don't play, no more wait, wait. When I was playing, I I didn't have really time to be watching other people sports. You, you study film. When you played, you studied film but I wasn't watching. I didn't have time because then, when I wasn't studying film, I'm working out.

Speaker 2: 13:13

Okay, okay, Let me give you an example.

Speaker 1: 13:15

at least that's my experience you know what I mean, but I wasn't, and now that I'm not playing sports anymore, I have way more time to sit down and watch a game and got nothing. That's going on.

Speaker 3: 13:25

Oh no, I, I 100% get it. But when people give you an example, though, you see your personality.

Speaker 2: 13:31

you will do freaking great on there Because you're completely different and what you say would get people start rolling Like you might not think that, but trust me, there are people just talking Can get them to win like, okay, I'm gonna turn it, I'm gonna switch it a little bit.

Speaker 2: 13:46

Okay like I'm a shooter. I like to play shooter games with other people online. Now, um, I may be Okay, but when I go to talk in our region and all of that, that's what people love. They might like that and they might be there just for that. Some people, because I'm really if let's just say I'm really good at the game, some people might be there, be there just to watch because I'm really really good at the game, because I'm gonna kick ass and I'm gonna win. Now, when it comes to the women, some people just like to be there just just to watch, just to watch.

Speaker 2: 14:18

If you machine may not be good at the game I'm speaking facts now, for the game is now, if they you know they look good. There's this that it's just to watch. Some women are really good at it and look good. You're gonna get a bigger viewer Bays, you know, I'm saying, and you're gonna grow your following really easy. Now, if I'm really good at the game, I'm always winning and people know that I'm always winning. I'm posting clips that I'm always people are gonna come for because I'm always winning, you know, I'm saying this is what are you more interested in the watchers or the players?

Speaker 2: 14:48

Um, I watch too. Um, but I all you mean, like being good at the game. I like, I like someone that's actually really really, really good at the game, like I have a reason. I have a reason, what that's the reason why I'm there. I want to see him win and win all the time, which which they always do. You know I'm saying so. But just sitting there watch like all right, she looks good, but she's not doing nothing to win. Again, I can't sit there and watch that. Now, I love a woman, a female, that looks good and kick ass. That means in games, videos and and movies, all of it. I love a female that can kick ass. So a resident evil movie, I mean, I'm into shit like that.

Speaker 1: 15:21

So to be successful at this does, do you gotta look at it like a job? It almost sounds like.

Speaker 2: 15:26

Do you got to put the time in and uh, first, First it starts off like it's not, but then eventually it's gonna become a job. Because I have a friend she we was just joking around On switch because you're able to do it just on your console without nothing, no camera or nothing. It started blowing up for her and and because it started blowing up, she started being able to Create, uh, get her equipment, uh, from her viewer base. They were donating, they were subscribing, given um like currency from their website, and she was making so much good money she was able to buy equipment, computer cameras, all of all of the above. And then now people can see her, now she has a bigger following. You know, zan, right. So which?

Speaker 2: 16:12

That's how I started my setup. I didn't have nothing. Everything started for my viewership. I didn't have a camera, I was playing a scary game and they all they heard was my voice, that's all they heard and it was entertained by. And then I went to go get a camera and I plugged it to that. Actually someone donated camera on stream. They send it to an ad, to my po Box. All of stuff would be sent to tp O box or donate to me and I go and buy them and I show that. You know you show the process that you started from here and now you got a camera, now you got a better system, now you got a pc. People love that. They love to see the ground from the bottom up. I'm showing, hey, you're not wasting, I'm not wasting their money on anything, but the money's coming. And I'm showing the process of me upgrading. You know saying so, yeah.

Speaker 1: 16:54

So, and you didn't always have it all, because I'm assuming what people going here they're going to be like oh, I could make 250 000 a month playing a video game, but you had to definitely get the equipment, the right equipment, I'm assuming. Right, you had to do your research. How did you find out the information and know, okay, I need this console, I need this Uh camera, I need this mic? Like, how does one research to get themselves ready to put themselves out there in the gaming world?

Speaker 2: 17:18

um, definitely pulled it up online and I had actually helped from other friends that that was doing it like. Let's just say, let's use this uh quality and audio quality that we have here right now. Okay, you could have this like right now, you could start with this and still have one viewer, or zero viewers in your channel. You go to someone else's channel and their, their quality and their audio sounds garbage Way bad than yours. Okay, they have 20 to 25 people in their channel. So sometimes, a lot of the times, it really doesn't matter.

Speaker 2: 17:49

But again I went online and I was able to see where, um, um, what uh cameras that gamers, uh streamers use and what the base is. It doesn't have to be a crazy camera, as long as they can see you 720s. Great, found that out, um, when I seen I could do, I do, I can do it on my console, but the console Uh wasn't strong enough to give it a good quality. That's when I was like you know what, let me invest into a pc, which everybody else had a pc on the side, so they can actually run a software that can that you can go live on and have more quality when it comes to the streaming and your gameplay. It looks just like what you see in front of you, but with with a camera on, with a camera overlay over your game.

Speaker 2: 18:33

Hey yeah, it's, it goes from all the way from the start. It's, it's a lot. But again, if you have a following, you already got the money. Like that you can have someone come in and set up for you and it's actually Not that hard. But as long as you get it with audio, I think you're a one. But yeah, yeah, and t-page shoot, he does. He's been doing it for the longest before. I think he was uh Big in music. He was doing it for the longest man. And you know, on twitch they just they pay him seven figures to do 30 hours on in the music category.

Speaker 1: 19:04

Yeah, yeah, I Enjoy watching him record. I see some sessions, some ad lids or just him harmonizing. I do enjoy watching the recording process because it he almost does it so effortlessly right, he does it anyway like right, just I mean off the dome and he just you could tell he ain't really trying and it still sounds good.

Speaker 2: 19:24

Correct, he does it anyway. He's like, why not? Why not just stream it and get money for it? You know what I'm saying. So he uh, his last, this album that's coming out. Everything was created live on camera, which is dope. Do he write man? That man that's not. He gets right in front of the mic.

Speaker 1: 19:41

He gets on the mic, it's off the dome, it's uh, it's a bar at a time, sometimes, yes, like a bar at a time format, and he come up with the, the next one on the spot, like you.

Speaker 1: 19:52

Mumble it and get it and then he'll record himself, do the next take, yeah, so he's recording sitting down. He's very comfortable. He's recording sitting down, but he, he goes at it, he'll attack it, then run through the harmonies and ad lips, but he will. I seen him stack. Maybe within 30 minutes can stack a verse and have it ready to go. And this sound it's not like the, I can't say. Like you know, anybody could probably just throw bars out there, but it still sounds good, like I think that's another talent, tori lanes, I see him do it Um, and and t-pain's another one who can still give you a hit. Uh, but I think when you look at it you'd like man, they just give me a verse or it's just they could say anything and I'm gonna like it, but it's still substance there. And and the craft t-pain is just t-pain man. And from.

Speaker 2: 20:35

You know, for those clips he's making. He's from note that whole video. He's making clips from clips, from clips and, you know, getting another income from another source, another website or somewhere. So it sounds easy, but it's not. If you have character, I think it helps. So, how long you've been doing it, I took it serious in 2017. I was doing it, but doing it for Play Play, just for friends to see me, because friends to see if they wanted to see what was going on at the moment. But yeah, 2017 is when I started and I saw that it was really moving and I wanted to stop a couple of times, but I was like, forget it. You know what, since I do the music and, of course, do the gaming, I think it would definitely be something that I would love to continue doing, which I'm still doing. But yeah, it's dope man, you don't see nothing else. It's not a job if you already do it and you enjoy it. That's how I see it.

Speaker 2: 21:31

I got you it's beautiful.

Speaker 1: 21:32

No, I got you. I got a question that most people don't think. So sometimes I could see on a. I guess when you have a spouse, they could probably talk junk like why are you always on the game? Why are you just sitting there gaming? You could be cuddling up with me, or you need to go do this or do that or do stuff around the house. Does it take a special individual to understand the gaming world? Do you have to break that down to your partner or does she just oh, he's gaming right now? Let me leave you alone.

Speaker 2: 21:59

Very, very it's, I know. Let me start from the start. So, like there's a lot of guys, I'm going to say for the guys and I speak for a majority of them, of course we want to go get the baddie whatever. We get them right, but they'll never let them know until later on that they're a gamer. Nobody's going to tell them up front because if they know, it may hurt them right there and then and wait till later to accept the consequences later. But you've got to. It's got to be someone that's already into gaming or the person already really understands, that knows from the start and understand this is what you do to get away when, when you're being you and you're doing you, which you know. I'm in the situation now which, thank God, thank God, she's good with it, but it's tough, it's not. It's not a lot of women that would accept that. It's definitely not a lot of them. I want to see a good 80% of them.

Speaker 3: 23:01

Is it something you have to disclose? You feel like you have to disclose? Offer it.

Speaker 2: 23:08

You have to. You got to let them know off, Is it?

Speaker 3: 23:10

insecurity.

Speaker 2: 23:14

Nah, I want to say women love quality time, man.

Speaker 1: 23:17

When you say disclose, like in the beginning, like I play a game of, yeah, like.

Speaker 3: 23:21

I'm imagining a person that gained you talking to a chickie like so it ain't like I gained. And they look like oh no, I like it. I mean, like you don't understand, it can be two, three hours.

Speaker 2: 23:41

I mean like OK, you're like you know what I'm like.

Speaker 3: 23:44

I'm imagining the serious game of dudes they might have a world where they may vent to each other, like bro, we've lost a lot of relationships over this. And then like so I don't know if this, this may not be a conversation, and I'm trying to be the therapist for the game of guys right now.

Speaker 3: 24:03

Y'all might not have an outlet to speak on behalf of y'all love or what y'all do. And also, I don't even know where I was going after that, but I don't know if y'all know. Hey, you got to disclose you a gamer because these women are walking away. They say they cool with it, but we have statistics that may not be published publicly that says if you're a male and you game, your chances of being in a successful relationship drops 30%. I don't know if there's data on that.

Speaker 2: 24:49

I like how you put that. That is a fact. We might need that though.

Speaker 3: 24:52

Because when you see, when you're asking that question, he was like he thought about it. So my insecurity sense is one of I said oh, he processed and something right now.

Speaker 2: 25:03

Yeah, y'all, I was trying to put it in number base, it's like how you put it.

Speaker 1: 25:07

I want to say more like 80% of them will not accept Will not, and I say that because you know there's a lot of content online where you'll see the dude and I know they do it for fun, though, but they'll be playing a video and the woman will walk in the set and drop her lingerie, put her ass in his face. I seen a girl just do a handstand and put her butt right in his lap and it was a Nintendo tight zone she had on, but trying to get his attention, and one dude he surround wrapped himself to the chair, so when she came in, she couldn't do nothing, and I'm like I know we joking about it, but I know it's real for some gamer Like hey, I'm gaming right now. I'm going to highlight you when I'm done, boo, and that's why I was asking.

Speaker 2: 25:51

So here's the thing I'm going to use T Grease. It also plays it in. Everybody watches Call of Duty Warzone. It's a game where there's a hundred and fifty other. It's a game where there's a hundred and a hundred and forty five other players outside of your team and four players per team.

Speaker 2: 26:11

So once that starts, there is no pausing the game. So think about your girl trying to get your attention and you cannot pause the game. And there's the. Your team is yelling at you Now guys are screaming at you he's one shot, Get that guy right there, Just shoot him. And you're over here talking to your girl arguing your girl or she's doing what she's doing to get your attention. There is no pausing and the women sometimes do not understand that. If they're not gamers, they don't know that you can't pause the game and give them the time right there. And then now, after the match is over, I don't know if you guys seen clips like this online where the guy walks into the room, just mess with them with the headset and the controller to see if they OK and they run back to the game. So yeah, they've even played around with that. So this is all real life situations Like I. Want to get your attention, but let me go for this over here. You know what I'm saying so.

Speaker 1: 27:01

now to that point, to what, if? I think, if you're, if you're successful at it, if she know a Birkin could come from this here or the nail that you need, your nails did I got you here's that cash app and she, she ain't worrying about certain things. Then I think it won't be so much pressure to see. I can see that side. Well, see her time.

Speaker 2: 27:20

Listen. You won't see her on stream for at least six to eight months sometimes, unless you're doing something an outing or something like that.

Speaker 2: 27:28

Some people don't even know the significant others. You know partner a lot of the times and sometimes the significant other. When they're making that kind of bag, they're the manager or they're the one who's setting up the events and doing this and doing that, which is there is a bunch of not a bunch, but there's a couple of big millionaire gamers, streamers. There are the significant other, which is their wife or their girlfriend taking care of that stuff for them. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 27:53

So, if I can get you the bag, yeah, trust me, you should never be, should never interrupt it. I get, you know, I get here and there, but it's just you know you?

Speaker 3: 28:01

you think the bag will keep her quiet.

Speaker 2: 28:05

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1: 28:06

Oh yeah, I think, I think it will be very minimal, like I would think. So, oh yeah, she can get what she want. Man, you're not you gaming today. At what time? Okay, bet Lock in.

Speaker 2: 28:18

There's a schedule when you streaming there's a schedule, but because you're a gamer, you're gonna game outside of your streaming schedule. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3: 28:27

So the bag make women happy.

Speaker 2: 28:30

Bag. You get a bag anywhere. It's gonna make the women happy, bro. It's gonna make them happy Then we don't need too much to make us happy. We just need a room and whatever.

Speaker 3: 28:39

Have y'all ever met a woman that didn't have no worries of the bag?

Speaker 2: 28:49

That's crazy that it's dead silence in here.

Speaker 3: 28:53

I Because? No, I know, I know I was waiting.

Speaker 1: 28:56

I didn't know if it was on the gaming question or just in general.

Speaker 3: 28:58

That's why I was kind of like Unhappy women that they may ain't got the bag. The bag ain't the concern.

Speaker 1: 29:08

I ain't say yeah.

Speaker 3: 29:11

So after you supplying the bag, but you gaming, you putting in all these hours and she can get the material things, we find out very fast that the supplying of the bag is only giving you security outside of yourself.

Speaker 2: 29:32

Now hold on, hold on as a streamer or a gamer if I'm making the bag, I think I have now me, I have created the time I have created, I got the bag where I can create time for her and go out and actually splurge you know what I'm saying and do what we really want to do, Because if you're doing this only as a job, great income. These guys make 2.3, 5 mils, some of them make 10 mil a year just gaming, Just gaming. I will definitely have time to do what I need to do with her. Most likely. I think it's easy because you're home. You're home, man. And then some of these guys, they don't even, they don't show nothing outside of their private life. Some of them do. They go. You're going to have the time, man, You're home, I'll definitely be in the gym, I'll definitely. Hey, go away, it would be enough.

Speaker 2: 30:25

I ain't got a word about working for nobody else my schedule would be so nice I'm telling you, but do you understand their frustrations? Yes, you got to, Got to, got to. I think I would give her three. It sounds crazy about a good three days with her alone. I mean, you know what I'm saying Like nothing else but just me and her out the week, if I'm making that kind of bag, right?

Speaker 1: 30:50

And I think what everything is about there is a bound, there's got to be. I'm not saying the bag is everything. I always think you got to have a balance of how you're doing it and you got to know that other person's love language too, man, if you know it's touched in, you got to focus on the touch. It might be where's that words of affirmation? Like, everyone's a little different when it comes to it, but once that person knows or can tell you, hey, this is what I need and I need this daily or I need this, then it's up to us to find that balance, because I think we're all unique when it comes to it.

Speaker 1: 31:21

But I also see it is more challenging to maneuver out here without the bag. I see, because the nicer things you want to do, even if you take a little trip, you drive two hours from here just to duck off at a hotel and it ain't even a real, real, real vacation. But we just going to get out for the weekend, even those you know what I mean the hotel fee, the driving, eating at a nice restaurant, breakfast and dinner, et cetera, little sightseeing it's going to cost a little, something, something.

Speaker 2: 31:50

But the bags. Let me point out a hard situation right Within the streaming base. If you're single, you're good, I'm going to say that. And then you get in the bag you're great, you're single. You're going to have women in your chat all day, every day. And they got a thing called whisper. That means they're whispering. Only it's like they DM you and you only see it while you're live. Now you're going to have women in your chat. Yeah, yeah, they DM you. You see it in the chat. No one else does. It's only for your eyes. Ok, it's only for you and her. Now, this is it happens, and sometimes it gets a big stream of trouble.

Speaker 2: 32:28

The program was with Slip. Yeah, of course, come on Like, call it whisper, but if you're slipping somewhere, you need someone to let you know. Hey, hey, hey, fix your hat or your strings messed up, or blah, blah, blah, you like. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3: 32:40

And then you got monitors and all of that.

Speaker 2: 32:43

I'll beat that Again. It can get you in trouble. But you got to know again a balance. And I don't care what you do Music streaming, whatever it is For the women, I would say Sometimes for the men. When you I think I saw someone say that the other day he's a streamer when you let the world know that you are in a relationship, you're going to lose some following and lose some following base. You're going to lose it regardless.

Speaker 3: 33:11

So so, so hold up. So then there's there's a legitimate, there's multiple legitimate reasons to not want to be in a relationship with a streaming dude.

Speaker 2: 33:27

Yes, there is.

Speaker 3: 33:28

Yes, it's not it's not just the time that you're contributing to it. Hmm, then it's also you having fun.

Speaker 2: 33:35

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 33:36

Then you have your I'm sure your online streaming family right whereas people that like live in other countries and stuff and y'all like, now y'all know each other, y'all cool. Then you got the whispers and then now money is coming in. So you driven, you driven by that. Um, I'm just thinking about that and I'm overwhelmed. I would do it, would, it would. I would say it will affect my relationship with the physical world if all that is going on right there in this chair and them chairs look comfortable.

Speaker 3: 34:13

My son got a one of them chairs. I'm like they designed this for you to never leave out of it. It got a thing at the bottom where you can recline, put your your legs up, and it got another pillow behind the cushion on it. It got vents for where I guess if your neck sweating or something, they want the steam.

Speaker 2: 34:36

My chair again with my community. It's a $500 chair. I wouldn't have never bought a $500 chair. Yeah, I just sit in, but again it's. It's one of the best investments for my setup because it's comfortable, got to recline all of that and it's again got the arm or everything, but yeah yeah, that's just part of it.

Speaker 3: 34:58

So have you ever been out and you was thinking about like is gaming on your heart? Like you, someone be like man? I really wish I was just sitting.

Speaker 2: 35:12

Oh yeah, we have plenty of times. Plenty of times we'll be somewhere and be like man. I want to go home. I'm going to go on the game. We'll be at work. That's what you're thinking, seriously, depending on the game that you enjoy.

Speaker 2: 35:23

I was in a situation where I'm a star from the beginning. I got the bag, but I'm home, right, looking, looking for something for work. But I got the bag, everything's taken care of. When I say everything took care of, I'm going to break it down for the, for the guys that are in the gaming community. The house is clean. Bathroom, dishes, everything. House is taken care of spotless. The kid is not out Sleep. What do you do? You're a gamer. You jump on the game. You do what you need to do. Now, your girl not home, she's not home. She's not home, ok, she's. She's doing what she needs to do. She's at school, but you're home. I got the bag, everything's taken care of. Now comes home, sees what I'm doing and get upset, but everything is taken care of.

Speaker 2: 36:16

I didn't, I couldn't understand what the issue was, took my headphone through it against the wall, not once, multiple times, and try to disable the situation. Upset because I'm on the game. All right Now. Police got involved. I'm trying to make a long story short. Police got involved. The officer said what were you doing? I said I was on the game. What caused the situation? She threw my headphone against the wall and it broke and I got upset. I shut the door and it got crazy loud. My son is still knocked out on the bed, opened the door and she's hitting on me, going crazy. So I grabbed her and we went on the bed, just held her tight on the bed. She called the cops and said I put my hands on her. All right, the cops came. She's in all white. Just to let you know, she's all white and this is the person that's light-skinned. So if you put your hands on her, you're going to see.

Speaker 1: 37:11

God.

Speaker 2: 37:12

Cops came, looked, saw nothing was wrong. She's not hurt. Where did you get hit? Can you show Nothing? Nothing, no, nothing like that. I said. If it got crazy like that, I said my son is still knocked out on the bed and throughout this whole situation, look, he's still sleeping. I said you know what? I'm going to get up and leave. That was the situation. The cop asked me they ran out. They ran out of records, whatever, like that. The cop asked me you're a gamer, so what game you was?

Speaker 1: 37:36

playing.

Speaker 2: 37:37

And she's in the other room Upset Getting mad. I was playing games, so we're having a conversation, we were laughing and I'm in the living room Made it way more worse. You know what the officer told me? This is the main point. The officer said, man, listen, my wife divorced me because I was so addicted to Call of Duty. He said he had days where he called out from work, lost multiple jobs because of that game. He said I am addicted to it still to now, but I am a police officer for this day. He said my vacations is just when that game is going to release and he takes us two weeks when that game release. This is a police officer. The man that's way older than me said he's lost his job for one game.

Speaker 3: 38:26

Yeah, so it's, and lost his wife, so it's addicted.

Speaker 2: 38:30

Yes, some people, yeah, some people really can't, can't prioritize their life because of it.

Speaker 3: 38:35

How do you manage?

Speaker 2: 38:37

Um, I got way better at it when I was a teenager, maybe younger than I was. I was bad. I was real stuck on it. Yes, but going. You know, being in a relationship, being married, I had to definitely let you know, had to let it go. I had to let go a lot of the stuff that I was really into. You know what I'm saying, because the person I was with their love language was quality time, touch. You know what I'm saying, so had to understand that. Mine's just touch also. You know what I'm saying. So, and we had a little kid in the picture so we had had to definitely cut that out here and there. But when we get an arguments, where am I? It mounts on the game. Yes, so it's a getaway. Yes, it's definitely a getaway thing to do for as a gamer. But yeah, can get you in trouble, man, big time.

Speaker 1: 39:24

So you had to prioritize. Yes step away. You just prioritize when you plan.

Speaker 2: 39:29

Yes, definitely, ok, definitely, but I wasn't streaming that, I was just getting.

Speaker 1: 39:33

OK, Now I hit him up. He'll be like hey, hey, global, I'm on the game.

Speaker 3: 39:36

I'm going to call you back, I'm lying, you can't hit you. He'll tell you I'm gaming and cool.

Speaker 1: 39:41

You know what I'm saying. And even when I get a Twitch alert, like, I think, because I got the app, because of him, I think I get a message or a notification.

Speaker 2: 39:48

He'll say that I'm lying.

Speaker 1: 39:49

He'll say that he's live.

Speaker 1: 39:50

And sometimes, depending on what I'm doing, I try to tap in and see what he got going. You know what I mean. It is, it is, it is cool. It is a cool feature. You know that's a. That's a good story, man, that's a good story. So if you're your son, if he comes to you at I don't know, let's say, five years from now, he just say Dad man, I don't know about college so much, but you know this gaming thing. I see you doing it, you look like you're pretty successful at it, and I want to follow that route. What would your words be to him?

Speaker 2: 40:22

I'll tell him if he's going to do it, you better go 100% with it. There's no slack, there's no lacking or nothing. You need to make a schedule. You need to do a schedule within life and then within scheduling, with the streaming and gaming, all of that. Now, if you just want a game and that's it, no, no, you're not, that's not happening. You need to go back, go back to school. That's not it. Because I'll tell him now, if you're going to do something, you need to be committed to it, 100% to it. If you feel like that's not it, you need to find what that, what the next thing is, first, before you leave what you're doing now. So, yeah, he's definitely asked. He's seen me streaming here and there. He's not, definitely not into the streaming, but he does like the gaming.

Speaker 1: 41:02

As much as you do. No, not as much as I do, ok, ok.

Speaker 3: 41:07

So how is one to be prepared for all of the additional stresses that come with gaming, because you talk about some situations at least for me, I never really heard of any of these situations personally, but clearly it's happening to where the addictive side I guess, the withdrawal from life, the prioritizing your relationships. How do you get prepared for that? Like? And we allowing children, because both of my kids, one on the iPad, the other one he on the game, but I don't even know to bring up to their attention or to address, hey, this might really affect your personal, your relationship. We talk about these love languages. This might damage the language in which your love communicates with you and interface with the rest of the world.

Speaker 2: 42:19

Can I be honest with you. They already know Because they know what the girls are saying in school. You are a man going to do what the girl likes If she knows. They already know because the girls in school are already saying they don't like boys at that game or guys at that game.

Speaker 3: 42:41

They're already saying it and, like elementary and middle, they already know.

Speaker 2: 42:44

That means they already accepted it. Trust me, they know.

Speaker 3: 42:48

So the young, the youth, the elementary ones. They may not know they may not care, the young girls already rejecting it.

Speaker 2: 42:55

Some of them probably are doing it too, but yes, yes, they're already rejecting. Trust me, trust me.

Speaker 3: 43:02

So if there is a rejection, what is our response? What is the response from the man in that rejection?

Speaker 2: 43:13

You're saying like as a gamer or as letting the kid know I want you to speak on behalf of the game, the game community the best you can.

Speaker 3: 43:22

What is the male gaming community? Response to the women.

Speaker 2: 43:31

Like I'm just meeting the female or I'm like what do you?

Speaker 3: 43:34

mean, I'm stating it like this Very universally and I want you to speak on behalf of the gaming men the best of your ability the women are rejecting from the information you gave us today. The women are rejecting the man's relationship with gaming. What is the men? What do the men have to say about that? What does your reply to that?

Speaker 2: 44:04

We accept it. We accept it. I'm going to be honest with you. 20% of us men accept it and don't care what they have to say about it. We don't care, we're still going to go after them and we hope that they accept it regardless. But the other percentage, they're going to lie and say they're not and face the consequences later. But the ones that don't care, they don't care. We're still going to go after the women anyway and hope that she accepts and can understand hey, this is part of our love language and can move on past it. Gaming is a love language. I would say yeah, yeah, because it's a getaway. It's definitely a getaway and it just feels like sometimes I want to say, 30% of the times I come home, I don't care, I just get on the computer and we're all in the chat together and we're just chopping it up. It's more than just a podcast, it's just exposure.