Episode 17: Between the Laughs and Beats: Digital Age Quirks and Music Industry Controversies

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Hosted by: The Global Zoe, Eric Biddines & Drego Mill

Ready to engage in a rollercoaster ride of a conversation, traversing topics as diverse as airplane mode panic, dating app mishaps, the power dynamics of the music industry and even the controversies surrounding mega-mogul Diddy? Strap yourselves in. We start off with a humorous discussion on our personal lives, Thanksgiving celebrations and the quirks of the digital age. You wouldn't believe the chaos that ensues when accidentally entering airplane mode or the challenges of navigating dating apps. 

In the second part of the episode, we hit the serious notes. We dissect the current music scene, examining recent album releases, the legacy of established artists like Busta Rhymes, 2 Chainz, Lil Wayne and the unique resonance of Andre 3000's new flute project. Delving deeper into the music industry, we analyze the South Florida scene and puzzle over why there hasn't been a breakout artist from the region in recent years. The discussion takes a sobering turn as we talk about the allegations against Diddy and his possible abusive behavior towards ex-girlfriend Cassie.

This episode is a blend of light-hearted banter, in-depth discussions and profound reflections on the intricacies of the music scene. As we delve into the role of producers, the importance of giving credit where it's due  and the implications of gatekeeping in the music industry, you'll come away with a broader understanding. Tune in for a riveting journey as we navigate through the fascinating world of the music industry and more.

⏰ Chapter Markers ⏰
0:00 - Airplane Mode, Thanksgiving and Birthdays
4:34 - Music Platforms and Missing Details Discussion
15:47 - Music Releases and Artist Development Discussion
24:10 - Andre 3000's Flute Project Impact
35:50 - South Florida Artists and Industry Dynamics
42:28 - The State of the Music Scene
50:40 - Producers in the Music Industry
1:05:24 - Music Sampling and Proper Communication Dispute
1:11:39 - Implications of Allegations Against Diddy
1:22:39 - Possible Controversies Surrounding Diddy
1:27:25 - Celebrating J-Luv's 40th Birthday

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

airplane mode. Yeah, this airplane. You know, I don't need to turn it all of the connection but, you ain't gonna get nothing coming.

Speaker 3: 0:07

Yeah, no signal, no notification. It's, all you do is cut the signal.

Speaker 2: 0:10

That's all you do. What about Texas? Nothing nothing.

Speaker 3: 0:12

Nothing comes through.

Speaker 2: 0:13

But do you get a voice if I leave nothing?

Speaker 3: 0:15

nothing. Nothing until you cut it back on Nothing yeah.

Speaker 2: 0:21

So the clock is still work.

Speaker 1: 0:22

the clock work. Yeah, you can look at stuff, okay that's.

Speaker 3: 0:25

That's why do not disturb is you get them, but they don't bother. Your phone, yeah, it don't vibrate, don't alert, no, nothing. But he said his do not disturb he got people on his favorite, that will come through, that'll come through. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 0:37

Oh, okay, that will come through Okay.

Speaker 1: 0:39

But the airplane mode eliminates all signal coming through the phone, but you can still look at your phone.

Speaker 3: 0:45

you can look at pictures like your phone's on, it's just no signal.

Speaker 1: 0:49

And if you got mute, if you like, you got something saved. Download yeah, if you downloaded a podcast.

Speaker 3: 0:55

You still connected the internet.

Speaker 1: 0:56

You can, you can hear those things, oh I only freaked out when I accidentally put it on.

Speaker 2: 1:01

I'd be like, oh shoot, I'm on airplane mode but I never really used it. Well, when you fly on the plane, you gotta turn it on.

Speaker 1: 1:07

Yeah, turn it on all the way, I just turn it off.

Speaker 2: 1:09

Yeah, I about to say.

Speaker 3: 1:10

I turn it off. It just don't search for a signal. That's all it does. It saves your batteries too. If you go somewhere you know it's dead signal, it's best for you to turn that on so you don't kill your battery.

Speaker 2: 1:17

So when I go to Haiti, I just turn it on like when you know, when they say you have now entering portal.

Speaker 3: 1:23

That's when.

Speaker 2: 1:23

I'll turn it on and you'll get that alert. It'll go over from whatever signal we have to, like Digi-cell or not.

Speaker 1: 1:29

Call me or let you know if they don't have i-brands over there.

Speaker 2: 1:33

No, you got Digi-cell and not come for internet providers. There you go, there you go, belen the house.

Speaker 1: 1:41

Hey, tell her, tell the global zoo about how you did with the bumble. He had a whole nice commercial. He had a whole nice commercial talking about the bumble.

Speaker 3: 1:58

Oh, the bumble man, I bought a blue favours, the blue raspberry. I think that word.

Speaker 2: 2:05

Oh, you bought a bumble. Yeah, yeah, yeah, after.

Speaker 3: 2:09

the full year. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That one. I need to go ahead and get a black bottle.

Speaker 2: 2:13

Oh yeah, I think you like bro you didn't get enough, yeah, he did.

Speaker 1: 2:16

I'm gonna give it a read.

Speaker 3: 2:23

There you go, there you go.

Speaker 2: 2:25

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Speaker 3: 2:31

We need that promotion and that's what exposure provides for the peace.

Speaker 2: 2:36

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Speaker 1: 2:48

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Speaker 2: 3:01

What's going on Y'all to? Then to another episode of exposure. I be aboard a global zone and I'm with the game, eric Biddens, and today's show is brought to you by Sovereign Brands, our official drink of choice. And man, we here, man, right after Thanksgiving, we live in effect. We took some time off. I was thinking of the show, where it can go, and I got a lot of interesting things we could do next year. But besides that slab, let me start off with you, man, how was Thanksgiving brother?

Speaker 1: 3:34

Oh, it was amazing. We had close family by, woke up early, went to sleep late, yes, left overs for two days after that. Turkey, mac and cheese, sweet potato pie, greens what else we had? A? We had probably about seven dishes, some stuffing, some jerk Jerk pork chicken. Yeah, it was nice.

Speaker 3: 4:04

That's what's up.

Speaker 2: 4:05

That's what's up. Good, good Draco.

Speaker 3: 4:07

Man, we I feel like it was a little mini vacation from work Took a couple days off earlier, got to do some content. It went well, and then my birthday was that Saturday.

Speaker 2: 4:17

Yeah, I see, happy birthday brother, appreciate it.

Speaker 3: 4:21

I feel like I celebrated it this Saturday though, but yeah, everything went well, man. I was able to relax and actually really do me, so, yeah, it was great man. That's dope man I went to Orlando.

Speaker 2: 4:34

A smart, intimate family Sister-in-law had a time show up there and my first time actually being in one of those so we was right there, in close proximity of SeaWorld, and this other place called it, starts with an A, it's another like a water park, like a rapids, but up there but it was the weather was cold, so we end up just really like I didn't know the clubhouse for these places, so there's like tennis courts, there's basketball courts, there's a theater, so there's a pool, there's a jacuzzi, there's the hot tub, so you really have everything, like it's inclusive, like everything is really there. You just go downstairs and walk 30 steps and you can have a ball. So we did that in Orlando, but we didn't do the traditional things, given we did a Haitian food. We had a Haitian restaurant cater, so it was the Terracuse, the Grillo, the black rice, the plantains, the shrimp, we had stewed fish and, yeah, we ate.

Speaker 1: 5:30

for about two days we ate and then we had leftovers for the and the macaroni.

Speaker 2: 5:34

I can't forget about the macaroni.

Speaker 1: 5:37

All the stewed fish. How the stewed fish was.

Speaker 2: 5:39

The stewed fish crazy. I don't go crazy over the same the fish like that, me too. I'm you gonna laugh and don't talk about, but I'm like a tilapia grouper, I like them. I like catfish, same like I eat that kind of fish, but the snapper got too many bones. Man, I'm not a, I'm not a.

Speaker 1: 5:57

I'm not playing with my food. I'm not playing my food like that Fish. It's not a lot of bones, it's only in the middle. What fish you eating, that man? That fish be about 14 inches, the tail hanging off. Yeah, you saying no bone in there. That's what I'm about to say.

Speaker 2: 6:13

Just a spine. I don't do good with the body. That's too much work, yeah. I see when I see a Haitian eating fish, they eat it and it's like it's switching and then they're spitting it out, yeah, hey, but it be on point, it's juicy anytime I ever had it Shoot.

Speaker 1: 6:31

it be like $45.

Speaker 2: 6:32

Yeah, it's up to you.

Speaker 1: 6:35

gotta pay the market price, yeah, I like that though, because you know, you know you're getting it, you getting it fresh.

Speaker 3: 6:40

Yeah, you getting it for real $45. I remember it being $30.

Speaker 2: 6:44

Yeah, it's $45.

Speaker 1: 6:46

I've gotten it $30 before, but it ain't always gonna stay $30. Yeah, yeah, I've paid up for it and I think rightfully so what I mean?

Speaker 2: 6:55

unfortunately everything going up. So if they gotta pay these workers and these chefs and the cuisine and the bills. They gotta go up somehow, some kind of way. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, that's what's up, man, that's what's up, that's what's up. So, man, a lot of new music dropped, yeah.

Speaker 1: 7:11

A lot of new music dropped Cheesy offset.

Speaker 2: 7:14

Yeah, okay, I didn't even know, I didn't even know offset dropped the album. I think you said something about it that's what you dropped.

Speaker 1: 7:19

Yeah, he was playing a song on our way here and offset was singing. It's like I didn't even think it was offset. That could have been like a party next door or something like a vocalist. I was like I didn't know he sang. Is it on the?

Speaker 2: 7:34

sample.

Speaker 3: 7:35

Yeah, yeah, the Buster Rom's.

Speaker 2: 7:37

The Buster Rom's. Okay Worth it yeah.

Speaker 1: 7:40

But it was a well written, well performed song and I'm thinking it's gonna be a single. He can do a whole album like that. Offset can do a whole R&B album.

Speaker 3: 7:52

I think so too. He's been performing that song a lot of places, like on the late night show and everything, yeah, so I think it's a single man.

Speaker 1: 7:59

I would like to see him pull his 808s and heartbreak love below. Give us a whole hey offset.

Speaker 2: 8:07

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 8:07

Pull your 808s and heartbreak. Slash love below. Give us a whole R&B album.

Speaker 2: 8:13

There it is, there it is. Two chains in Weezy Drop, yup. The cover hard, the cover hard. I'm going through that, because it looks like both of them?

Speaker 3: 8:23

Yeah, it really looks like both of them. Is that a two part album? I think it's a two part album.

Speaker 2: 8:28

What do you mean? The second, yeah, colle Grove, number two.

Speaker 3: 8:31

No, no, it's actually like I think it goes to a number and then it starts again and like they got two albums in one. I'm saying I think it's two albums in one.

Speaker 2: 8:40

I listen to it. It got skits, it got 50 cents. It's like narrating it. You know what I'm saying he didn't get y'all too, yeah, hey we're all and we're going to get back on.

Speaker 1: 8:51

We're going to get back on point. But I would love for us to have a source where we all run to to get all these details. And I don't mean to go backwards to be like, oh, I was back in the day where you knew you can go to. It was at least three or four websites where you knew you was going to get whatever was legitimately happening. Now, like, depending on what a person got going on on the timeline, they're going to miss it. You don't got. You might not have a place that's going to cater and cover to all these details. Every now and then the shade room might get worse in there, but I'm talking something that's strictly dedicated to all these details that we agree, that we all run into Like to your point.

Speaker 2: 9:42

I mean, websites is good too, but I felt like Warstar used to be that for me, like it ain't that.

Speaker 1: 9:47

No more check it every day.

Speaker 2: 9:48

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah see what was going on and I feel like with social media platforms the tick tocks, the I G's growing. I think the owners kind of got a little discouraged right Because the platforms was trending and people would go viral quicker there. I think people just gave up on a site and like let me push because this.

Speaker 1: 10:11

This is our generation fault, because we, when we came in, a lot of people, a lot of artists that was able to do it without the labels and the executive sides, a lot of structures, high fired, complete departments that was actually not fast forward to where we complain that their talent was to make sure and be like a curator in a sense, from the, from the executive side, from the label side, also innate.

Speaker 1: 10:42

Their relationships extended over into media, television, radio and so on. So we at least know we was getting something controlled enough to where, if we, if they ever want to be a direction that we all agreed to go, it can go. But now, once we eliminate eliminated that now, if we complain about the music is still outside of our control, we might be hearing something we might not even agree to want to hear. And I see a lot of people in the comments. They be complaining sometimes about the stuff that end up getting most of the attention. And now y'all mentioning all these exciting some of some of them I missed myself. Yeah, Some of these events that came out the the planet poster be talking about I because, it's on that level of importance and historical historicalness.

Speaker 1: 11:41

Just like when we had the source, when we had the vibe, when we had those things you had three, four Rolling Stone you knew whatever was happening, it was gonna be in there. So now it's like we might. I don't think we had that because there's so much that's coming out and I'm missing a lot myself, and I know I ain't the only one.

Speaker 2: 11:59

So I would ask this to those. So what happened to the? I don't know the promoter, not the promoter, but I just don't. I just think everybody is either trying to be in the forefront, but we don't have enough platforms with people who just, you know what. I love music so much that I wanna put others' talent out there. Is that what happened to those people? Not A&Rs, but-.

Speaker 1: 12:23

Whoever got the bag ain't giving them the bag.

Speaker 3: 12:25

Can I, can I hold on? Can we go back a little bit, though? Let's before? I'm not gonna name it, but we had Hot, new Hip Hop. We had all of these and everybody would find the upcoming artists, because we was going to those websites every day and then, when somebody's playing it, we asked who is that you?

Speaker 2: 12:41

know what I'm saying. What's that person called Like, if someone who opens up a Hot New Hip Hop? What do we call them a blogger?

Speaker 1: 12:46

They was called bloggers.

Speaker 2: 12:47

Okay, bloggers had a lot of pull. What happened to them? They was getting them bags.

Speaker 1: 12:51

They were getting bags their websites, the traffic that they were getting. Then everybody left the apps.

Speaker 3: 12:58

That's where it went to SoundCloud. Soundcloud eliminated all of that, so everybody was uploading to SoundCloud without that became a thing. But would it Audio Mac be part?

Speaker 2: 13:09

of that, that's another one. Audio Mac was the.

Speaker 3: 13:12

Everything with the apps. So it was one button. You know what I'm saying. It was just one button instead of having to go to a website on our phone or on a computer, because we all went to a computer before our phones when we were looking for those songs.

Speaker 2: 13:22

So are we saying part of the problem is websites Like, because it was?

Speaker 1: 13:25

No, it is the part of the problem was this generation that came and rebelled against the system. That said, because we had a few people that made some success, shot out the big Draco, shot out the Soulja Boy for ushering in that independent movement, but everybody ain't contributed to change that. He contributed, but a lot of people after that rebelled in a lot of label departments, people that was very, very talented and breaking artists that was that could have been label heads theyselfs. A lot of very important critical people. The budget's got cut, they got fired. You no longer needed them Like somebody felt like they can.

Speaker 1: 14:08

Just if I can blow up and go viral off of Instagram or Facebook or a YouTube clip, I'm cutting out all of these people that had these very important relationships and contacts and was feeding us in a healthier portion it was a whole meal versus like you might not know who dropped what I'm like. I skimmed through the Buster Rhymes because he was on another podcast interview and I didn't really even appreciate it to Draco playing it to me in the car and he's yeah, yeah, and he's selling it to me.

Speaker 1: 14:45

He going through, he went right to the cuts that I needed. He did what it was, it was crazy.

Speaker 1: 14:50

It was an editorial experience and I'm like man, it took me. It's not the same, but it took me back to when you would go and read these publications and it'll the event around it when you seen 50 Cent, eminem and Dr Dre on the cover you like. It's bringing even more excitement to it to actually value the music the way you need it to, because just clicking a Instagram leak or find something that's just coming quickly through your feed, like on a sidebar in the discovery that ain't giving you everything that's actually in there. He telling me the story of how they was all out on a yacht. He went and got Timberland. He got this, like all the details necessary.

Speaker 2: 15:32

The story was amazing.

Speaker 3: 15:34

Oh, he actually. I don't know if you know he won. What was that award? Remember that award. He won Lifetime.

Speaker 2: 15:40

Achievement, yeah, lifetime Achievement, so he deserve it.

Speaker 3: 15:42

Yeah, so that was. You know it was. This is just a year, it was just Buster's year. But I wanted to tell you that when I started on the album, that was from the intro. That was from the intro going down. So you just hit play and I got like six songs. If I like five to six songs on the album, I'll say you got an album. Yeah, that is an album. But yeah, I just hit play man.

Speaker 2: 16:02

That's. That was something. When you say but I'm trying to take a five, six song, it's like I don't have to.

Speaker 3: 16:08

I don't like the songs that I really like. Like if you know how simple you just skim through the album and you pick what you like and that's it. I was able to just let it play and I'm like ooh, ooh, ooh, so I went to add it and then I'm like fuck it, nope, I'm going to go ahead and add the whole thing. Fuck it, that's what's up?

Speaker 1: 16:25

So, again, going back, this is me complaining on the half of my own complaining system, which I love to do. I think it's important to allow these label systems, give these people their bags, bring these positions back. I would like to see these labels get into artist development how it was like almost mandatory structure, like if people want to go viral and they eating, they doing their things, this and that, that, but I'm talking about the, our media, our taste that's the word, taste makers, our taste makers get being able to come back to where they used to be. Like if Bigger Rankin said something was going, it was going. If such and such is so many names, I would like it to get back to that, because we're missing a lot and we're not controlling the narrative of, let's say, hip hop, rap or urban music, cause you look at rock, you look at blues, you look at jazz, you look at these other spaces, r&b doing amazing, by the way. Shout out to R&B.

Speaker 3: 17:34

Oh, you heard Chris Brown album.

Speaker 1: 17:36

Oh, I did please. Yeah, it ain't gonna lie. I can't say nothing bad about R&B, but when it come back to rap and I'm hearing Busta Rhyme still got it, I'm hearing GZ still got it, I'm hearing TI still got it, I'm hearing Ludacris still got it, I'm hearing Tank still got it I mean, well, that's in R&B, but it's so many people still got it. They got even better. They got even better. And it's like when you go into rock and roll and if these are rock stars, for us this is when they really at they prime. To get these stars on the Hollywood on the sidewalks, they rock and roll a hall of fame and they got records that is even better and that pushes everything forward. But I don't feel like we got that control.

Speaker 2: 18:27

To your point. How old do I think Busta Rhymes is? Cause I'm kind of glad we let's give Busta his flowers now. But how old do you think Busta Rhymes is? Oh, busta Rhymes ain't got no age, no, I'm just. But I'm just curious Cause it's, let's say, 42.

Speaker 1: 18:43

I'm gonna say 2000. Busta Rhymes, yeah how old. I'm gonna say about 2000 years old, cause if Andre 3000. Yeah, I'm gonna say Busta Rhymes, not a non-linear age in person, no in the beautiful part.

Speaker 2: 19:01

I'm just happy cause the artists we're talking about, I'm just so happy that we embrace and we can, we're giving them a shot, we checking them out. It's not, we're not putting labels of old heads but it's just interesting to see 51.

Speaker 1: 19:15

Yeah, right what we're pushing the culture forward, okay.

Speaker 2: 19:19

We're pushing the culture forward. You think about two chains. You think about the wanes. You think about everybody who just recently dropped that we are fans of and we are talking about right now. It's a beautiful spot in music man In hip hop. I'm gonna say hip hop. Hip hop is a I'm happy to see this, I'm happy to see that, and thank you, busta, for giving us a classic man.

Speaker 3: 19:39

He's giving us the game too, and what I really like is he not just him. They're bringing back the footwork of the hustle mentality and that's what you know, of course, because of the mainstream media with the music is, I guess, shitting on everybody, but I like that, the hustles coming back grinding and getting your music played Like. I heard a story where he's actually still going to the clubs and getting the DJs to play his music.

Speaker 3: 20:05

Busta Ross yeah, he's doing footwork, like he's going himself, like the younger days of his life that he was giving the DJs his CD to play.

Speaker 2: 20:16

He's fresh off tour with 50. Like we talking about a dude who just toured half the world with 50 Cent and still put out a project and not about to do his own tour. Man, you know what I'm saying and that look at me now versus legendary legendary and he put out OT Genesis. Yeah, ot Genesis.

Speaker 3: 20:32

I forgot that was his car. He was, yeah.

Speaker 1: 20:35

And OT Genesis got the best gym music. Yeah, he worked out too.

Speaker 2: 20:41

You know what I might say. I might have to agree with you.

Speaker 1: 20:42

OT Genesis got the best gym music. He got the best gym music. I don't even work out. He got the bounces.

Speaker 2: 20:47

Like every single he dropped was a hit. Like he, he in his bag of he don't need to put out album, I wouldn't even put that on him.

Speaker 1: 20:54

No, no, Just continue following the formula OT Genesis don't? He may not feel like this, but for me I feel like we're going to talk about OT Genesis as a person that make the songs that he make, he liking that Fat Joe category, the fact you've been around a minute and Fat Joe got some. He can always come back. Like you can never, ever, ever count Fat Joe out OT Genesis. I feel like he going to be one of those.

Speaker 2: 21:25

So I also want to get. So now we talking about these new releases. So Andre 3000 just dropped the album and I think I put it in our group chat before it dropped, cause I was kind of I didn't know he was working on nothing and when I saw it I immediately thought of you and just you know just the conversations we have and I know somebody of the influence and I'm like, after 17 years, I was kind of excited. And then I saw his first interview. I'm like, oh, he was like oh yeah, I didn't know what to rap about at what. 48 years old or 49, which was one of those he was like I ain't know what to rap about. But you know, this is what spoke to me.

Speaker 2: 22:00

So he put out if you want to call it an instrumental item, a album, sorry, right. So I was excited for it. So then I'm like, all right, let's see what's going on. So it dropped and the numbers are looking good. Well, he outsold a lot of artists the first week, such as Kodak. I know Lil Wayne was on there. I know Nas was on there. His numbers is doing phenomenal. So I got a chance to listen to it.

Speaker 1: 22:23

It was different.

Speaker 2: 22:24

It's not what I expected. I got just being transparent and completely honest, but I see where. Like the meditation, yoga. If you don't like white noise, I don't know, but like something about me. I don't like sleeping when it's quiet, like I hate where it's nothing. Something got to be going, so I usually sleep the ocean waves I like to play some waves crashing in the background, real light, and it's just weird. But I didn't realize it about me till like the past three, four years. It's when it's just quiet.

Speaker 2: 22:55

I'm like man, I can't fall asleep and I started doing that. But I feel when I listened to this album, I've been throwing it in my ocean waves mix just to let it play at night for me and it's been phenomenal. But I've been enjoying it and supporting it, but it is different. It is different. I know Tipper J won it rap. He did say he wanted bars. So shout out to Trip. I saw him on Facebook. He said man, I was waiting for the bars. D'all did saying it.

Speaker 1: 23:18

I'm on trip, but trip wanted the bars man, Anybody who didn't get the bars they allowed to be disappointed for that.

Speaker 2: 23:26

I wanted some bars. I did cause. Lewayne even said I don't know if y'all saw the viral clip that's trending where he was like he was a little bit like concerned, like he was like damn. He said he had nothing to rap about, cause Wayne was like man. That's a little shocking.

Speaker 2: 23:40

You know what I mean, cause he's like granted that LeWayne says, you know, I guess he don't put an age on it, but he liked to focus on, he said, hence the reason why I only focus on what I do, like I don't like listening to other people music, I don't like to know what's going on unless I have to. I'm in my own world and that's just the way I focus. But even I guess as a fan he was like, yeah, he would have, he would have definitely enjoyed it. Listen to some bars as well.

Speaker 3: 24:04

Yeah, agreed, agreed, agreed. But they bought the sample of the shit out of his music. I'll tell you that right.

Speaker 2: 24:10

But how did you feel about it? Before you talk about others, how did you for you like?

Speaker 3: 24:14

I'm not gonna lie, I was definitely in the boat too. I was.

Speaker 2: 24:17

I was, I wanted bars.

Speaker 3: 24:18

Yeah, I wanted bars, man, I don't care if he was going to sing, I needed to hear his voice. Okay, I needed to hear something, man, I was waiting on it and I did shut it down. And then I did come back and I did exactly what you said I took it as a low-five, instrumental. Yeah, yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1: 24:34

I was bumping it.

Speaker 3: 24:35

I'm not a liar, yeah.

Speaker 1: 24:38

I was prepared for it. It was exactly what I thought it was gonna be, I mean and I'm from the same soul group as Andre, so I understood it. It made sense that he would do something that we all would. Whatever we expect from him, he always did something different. We never was on point on being able to calculate. Andre he's not one of those he's never been that to give us exactly what we was anticipating, and we didn't even have a big head sup on it, and so I thought that was genius.

Speaker 1: 25:13

I thought it made sense for where he's maturing into far as a musician, because now it could put him in a different space, to where he can go, perform in different avenues and almost be a new artist in a completely different sense. Whereas and I'm speaking in form, as if I know like after you rapped and did it so good and you toured and did all these things and there's so much space and distance you was in the group, you had the dungeon family, the solo stuff and you just full all this creativity. You rap. If that was your base, it might not feel challenging. So now to get that rush from when you first started and you got all this excitement to do a flute project where there isn't many references on how a hip hop artist is to put out an instrument or a flute project.

Speaker 1: 26:20

But I can see there being a lot of excitement behind it to where it's like, all right, we can do some different stuff. I don't have to. It don't even make sense for me to compete with what the youth are doing. It don't make sense for me to. You know, do I want to say the press in the hip hop sense? I'd now be able to talk to some different people. You probably out there doing interviews, setting stuff up with platforms we never even heard of. Because now you have the contemporary side that might be paying attention, the label can you know, tap on the doors of these other departments that may not have never even met some of those executives. So I feel like there was a lot of excitement in that, just as it being fun. But then and I have to throw this disclaimer because there was a couple of people I'm defending them again, I did this in another conversation People that really, really, really, really really play. That's classically trained was like his flute playing suck, yeah, some like if you were a classically trained flute player.

Speaker 1: 27:33

You not. And Andre not expecting somebody who been playing flute for 40 years to say that you know this is the best fluting around, how flutacious that he doing on the mic. But he did explain that it wasn't to be like quantized, you wanna say, where it's very loopable.

Speaker 2: 28:00

Like it's jumping around, it does, it does.

Speaker 1: 28:03

It could be two minutes in he playing with three different things, and so the patchwork in the artistry it's like a quilt that's going on. It's amateur intelligence to where it's like he not the best flute player on the planet, but what he giving you, the rawness he giving you and how he giving you, how relaxed he was and letting it go out. And then the post work. That's where a lot of the artistry end up coming in too, because there was other instruments layered up under it. And so now, if you're a person that sample, anything like that, especially with people who sample, they're like oh, and Jeredi already called it they're like, oh, we can do some stuff with this because it moved around.

Speaker 1: 28:56

So you got one song samplers, the probably sample. Maybe you know you had 10 different samples come from that same song because he moved around so much and he toying with it. So it's like you in the room with Andre freestyle and just trying out riffs and patterns and seeing what's working, and they probably like, no, keep that, keep that, we can make that work. And I can see the engine and like he like no, I was just testing out. No, no, that sounds fine. And just cause it's Andre, you like man, I'm finna keep anything.

Speaker 2: 29:28

Andre playing with flute.

Speaker 1: 29:32

So there is an intelligence in there and I appreciate it.

Speaker 2: 29:37

for that I went to support, so you enjoyed it. You definitely did support.

Speaker 1: 29:41

I put it on. I went to sleep and I'm gonna tell you something that happened. This, the magic we looking for some wizardry coming from Andre 3000. While I'm sleeping, I'm falling into my sleep. It wasn't a nightmare, but there was this it wasn't a peaceful sleep, it was a cleansing sleep where I just felt all this dark energy just leaving. I ain't even know, you wouldn't even know it was there, but it's repelling and it's leaving. I was like that was an interesting sleep and because it wasn't a peaceful sleep but it was a liberating sleep. And then I'm thinking about the keys and the notes. There was some keys and notes.

Speaker 1: 30:39

He was kinda in some dark octaves at some points. It was like rainy day, hands in the pocket, head down walking on the sidewalk of 7 pm, 7 set type of like the sceneries I'm seeing with some of the music, and I'm like, oh, there's some emotion that's behind this and, yeah, it's repelling it. So he got into, especially for the sensitive people and the empaths he got into this. Andre 3000 was able to build a harmonic in this space that can repel certain energies that would end up being in your field, Because it's like bringing an angel down to this space where you might not see an angel presence to be and then it's like, oh, we're playing this person in this frequency and that's a liberating experience to have, like you just seeing Andre's presence within that spectrum of vibration when you might not even really expect it to be there and it just repelling. So anybody who just felt like they got some darkness around play that Andre 3000 album. It's going to sit right in that pocket. That just repels, cleans and liberate and renew.

Speaker 3: 32:10

I'm just genuinely happy because he's happy, bro, like I'm happy for him, like for real, for real, like he was able to just do what he wanted to do and be happy with it. That's where I'm at with it.

Speaker 2: 32:22

That's what's up. I think a lot of people there but that's what's up Shout out to you. You explained that beautiful too, by the way. I almost feel like that should have been an ad for the album. Just just, I had to think about it, I had to figure it out. That would have been the perfect clip.

Speaker 1: 32:36

I woke up, I was like what kind of? Sleep was. Was that what was going? And I had to figure out what type of sleep it was. I had to think about it. I'm like it wasn't the most. It wasn't the sleep, the ocean waves and beach sleep.

Speaker 2: 32:51

I know that we all know that sleep.

Speaker 1: 32:53

Yes, I said this was something else, this was eliminating something. So I know I wasn't in the most peaceful, deep sleep. But when I woke up, because I was with Andre, I was like, oh, his music did something. It did something Because you woke up feeling good and safe. It's like being in a nightmare where you ain't have to do nothing Because Andre playing, Andre taking care, he got the flute. Just boogie monsters get out.

Speaker 1: 33:26

I think I was going to be here because some of these notes are shifting and it's throwing y'all off and it's I'm looking at the universe of harmonics and how they play out. There are some staggers in there, so it's some bumps. He's dropping in different places, so I can see how it can cause some distortions. But because it's Andre and because of the personality it's coming from, it's repelling and it's like. So I woke up. I was like, oh wow, I don't even know if he know what he did, but those that that study into those spaces like frequencies and vibrations, they're going to be like man, that do make sense when I think about it. So, yeah, welcome, I did a little bit. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not the only one, but sleep to that Andre that's what's up and producers going sample the hell.

Speaker 2: 34:25

I mean, that's the first. Another thing I saw from the production side is everyone's like, oh, this will be dope the sample. So let's shout out to the twerk workers that's going to be coming, and I don't know if Dregal going to cook up something, but maybe we'll be able to play y'all a little something, just to show you what it was capable of doing. You know what I'm saying and I want to talk about something else that's the same on music, before we go anywhere else, if y'all have anything. But I saw this artist from Miami who kind of said you know, the Miami music scene is struggling because of the generation before ain't really looking out for nobody. If you think about some of the artists who were successful out of Miami and some made attempts. Now I ain't gonna say like, so we got to be clear. I don't know the business or what happened to some of these things, but trick daddy had dunk riders, rick Ross had triple C's, just to name a few. But he's saying that the generation before ain't no one looking not for this younger generation of artists that's coming, ain't no one doing features, ain't no label signing cats, ain't nothing happening and he's saying that's the problem we have in Miami is that the generation who did make it ain't looking back. For the generation who's on the upcoming ain't no big homie advice Ain't normal, put you on a show, ain't no, come on tour with me. None of that is happening and I just kind of feel like do y'all agree with that?

Speaker 2: 35:50

Do y'all see that and what's your take on it, especially us being from Palm Beach? Do you think maybe the? You know, sometimes we see a younger generation moving different and we like what the hell are they doing? Why they making music like that, why they putting that on social media? But maybe they don't have no big brother guidance or no one they have access to to be like, hey, young man, that ain't the way to do it. You want to go that way? Or maybe you don't want to say that in that record, make records like this, or let me show you this or that. I just want to get y'all take on that is it. Did the did? Maybe I want to say some of us, or are we looking back for the younger generation and help, and do we just observe and let them fail?

Speaker 1: 36:31

I would put that on us more so because when we hit that, turn to where we, it just was constantly said that we don't need nobody. We don't need nobody and we was doing everything I own. We forgot about the producer helping us with our flow. The executive produce, rather, even if it's on a local level, and, Jericho, you know, like we ain't want to listen to nobody. And when you have people, that's own and we've been in spaces where they're like you know you ain't going to listen to me. I might want to put you on, but I might want to, you know, pick all the beats for your next project. I might want to tell you to wear this outfit. I might. It's so many other things. I don't think we want to really listen to anybody.

Speaker 2: 37:24

I mean, I've been looking for that. I feel like I was looking there for my hope. I was always looking for advice.

Speaker 1: 37:29

I was looking and I was, I was looking, but I know there was. There was a part like I'm thinking about people who was like I'm thinking about the icebergs, I'm thinking about like some people. I was like, oh, he definitely could go with MMG or something like that. But now, looking back at iceberg, how he moved, like he was like so much of his own boss that it might have held him back for some of his moves If he was tough to be up under somebody and wait for somebody saying what ball agrees. He's like it's a lot of people who been been ready a long, long time ago and they would have I'm sure it's a period that they would have been down to be with people, but they was mentally they was on the same level as some of the people that it was really trying to get on with, like iceberg, the way he moved after after Don't Grotters, he went even further. Yeah, he did.

Speaker 1: 38:28

Yeah, I can say that, yeah, he went in, he went further, he went even further and ball agrees had been through a lot of situations where he depending on other people. When he finally it appeared to be that he was doing on his own, he ended up going further and I think ball agrees to be making more money than a lot of people on major labels. So it ended up working out for some. It ended up working out for some people, but I don't think South Florida trying to do that. We ain't trying to make superstars. They come hit a party.

Speaker 3: 39:03

No, no, they there. I feel like they there after the. I don't. I'm not blaming them, but after the Callit effect it kind of I think it kind of messed everything up. It was like he was the go-to guy and it's like if you didn't have him, you almost, you almost don't exist. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 39:19

Oh well, callit was bigger than bigger than Florida, Callit bigger than the.

Speaker 3: 39:25

United States, now, now, but I think, but still think about it. At the time, when he was doing it, who did he grab? Who did he grab?

Speaker 1: 39:32

Yeah, he did. He started out with him, but his, his mentality always been big and I ain't gonna say that about everybody, but Callit is one of those people that was you couldn't, you would be doing him a. It would be disrespectful to expect him to carry a city when he always had this global mentality. He was always bigger than a, so A corner.

Speaker 2: 40:00

He had Ace Hood as an artist. So we the best, and we know we the best exists. But then it's like they had their differences, they separated. But it's like, what about the younger generation? Because I'm sure we all can name some of us. You know even more, but we, I know about five artists from Miami, that's been putting in that work and I'm curious like you got to notice. You see this, yeah, like why we ain't.

Speaker 1: 40:22

South Florida ain't won't Think about the TJs DJs days. How many people from Florida in?

Speaker 3: 40:27

general Radio was broke, bro, remember at that time that was using radio to break people and he was using radio to break people. We're not. I know it's not that time anymore, but this we got. Like global said, we do have these guys down there, but why you?

Speaker 2: 40:42

see what I'm saying so the artist I felt what the artist was kind of saying is this like we had pole boy, we had slip and slide, we had you know, just giving you know in my ambulance. Like an E class is doing different preventives. He got finger licking. He has a. They just opened up a new restaurant in my um supermarket slash restaurant in Miami called Marketplace, where you can not only shop but you can also eat. They got food. E class looked like he has another hat on. Shout out to him.

Speaker 1: 41:09

Shout out to him for that E class figured out. Uh, south Florida, they don't want that music Sometimes and this is going to hurt especially for uh create music creators Sometimes and I wish I knew this, I wish it was somebody who told me this. But sometimes you're the market, you in already have an idea of what it won't Like. There's already we and we was too young to know those levels of politics, but your environment already have a direction it want to go. They can say we can say we can decide we don't want to.

Speaker 1: 41:50

We're not trying to be in New York, we're not trying to be in Atlanta, we're not they. They seeing these templates and, unbeknownst to us, we might not know. Hey, don't be signing a bunch of people, don't bring that. You know that LA, new York, Atlanta, stuff over here because it end up changing the dynamics of your, your entire market. It's, it's start affecting a whole lot of stuff. And you got industry people that's going to obey those commands that come down to Miami, got spots, it's a lot of big heads that come to South Florida and it's not trying to sign.

Speaker 3: 42:27

But, eric, check this out. Before we knew who these Atlanta, it was every other week and new artists was dropping, bro, and then they were blowing up instant. And then they were stressing Come on, come on, like hold on, hold on, hold on, like I didn't know who young LA was. And then he dropped.

Speaker 3: 42:42

That song came out and then and then you had, and then you had an album and we had TI and then drove, drove and drove, did this thing Like it was almost every other month, this man, and that was something that other markets didn't want.

Speaker 2: 42:55

But, but they still was getting affiliates.

Speaker 3: 42:56

Exactly.

Speaker 1: 42:58

Gucci was putting South Florida. Don't want that.

Speaker 3: 43:00

And then you got the Migos, and then then you had somebody else, and then it was so we do have a problem. Yeah, we do have a problem.

Speaker 2: 43:07

Is it gatekeeping? Yeah, is it low key, just gatekeeping Like big time no no of course Ain't no one else going to pierce this thing. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 43:15

Yeah, I've been in those spaces where they making phone calls and I don't know the names, I don't got the numbers, but they making phone calls and the other phone calls has gone to to get permission from other people saying no. So if they say no, it do it. Do. Come down to where you at, because it changed everything. If we about to make the global zone the biggest Haitian artists in the world from Palm Beach County and he in South Florida, do you know what that's going to do? You in the zone capital, and we about to make the global zone a big like, immediately there's there's discussions got to be made. Hold up, hold up, hold up who this is about to. You know finna have every zone on his shoulders.

Speaker 1: 44:08

It's just like it comes about power and this, this is old, this go this. Go back to Motown, let's go back to Swisher House, let's go back like we was too young to know that the, the power dynamics, was taken, that it was seriously taken into consideration above just if you sound dope Any category, uncle Luke will tell you I'll say outside of them girls in Miami, what they call, what's the name of them?

Speaker 3: 44:37

girls City?

Speaker 1: 44:37

girl.

Speaker 3: 44:38

Who's coming out Miami, and that's that's the point.

Speaker 2: 44:41

There's a lot of cats that that's grinding a locally, even like kid old Marv I thought was out of here, I mean he was. The drip record was on 99.

Speaker 1: 44:50

I mean, it was on every stage, yeah.

Speaker 2: 44:52

Hard he was writing for he got a city girl the girl, one of the city girls on the remix.

Speaker 1: 44:57

Then he did a song with Tokyo Jets that went hard Like I'm like what else does do, gotta do, if this, if the spirit of your environment say we don't want it, then it's just not going to happen. We looking at global success.

Speaker 2: 45:16

I'm talking about even locally, though the it's just crazy Like I mean, it's just crazy Like this are.

Speaker 1: 45:23

So I we only look at Minnesota. It's other markets got some very dope artists.

Speaker 3: 45:29

No you got people coming out of that, though Right now it's only a lot in New.

Speaker 1: 45:32

York man. I guarantee Cleveland is complaining about complaining way more than Miami complaining Miami. Top 10 market of artists that have gotten on We've, we don't. Don't forget base music. Miami had their runs, miami H town. Miami had Jason.

Speaker 2: 45:57

Like. So I started. Rick Ross, well, we say Bargreasy got it right. Now who?

Speaker 1: 46:01

got Miami right now.

Speaker 2: 46:02

But we're not talking about city girls, not not a group. As an individual, you can only say. Miami like right now. Do you feel like a this person?

Speaker 1: 46:10

No, rick Ross done, made it.

Speaker 2: 46:12

He already got another success that.

Speaker 1: 46:14

I'm glad.

Speaker 2: 46:16

So would you? Would you would you give it to Bargreasy or no?

Speaker 1: 46:19

I will. I look at Bargreasy like a vet. I look at him like a no but but he, he never got that.

Speaker 2: 46:25

I mean, I'm sure he's getting bags, but he don't got that world success Like when he go like you go somewhere. Everybody know him Trick Daddy, you know he's still doing let so then I'll, I'll.

Speaker 1: 46:39

I'll promise and this me guessing, but it's probably some kids, that's 18 years old, years old know somebody else that we didn't even hear of?

Speaker 2: 46:49

No, I'm, but I'm just speaking from what we know and what we see, because I just see them in the studio with a hitmaker and city girls. They're working on another record. They sample that car. You're my neck, my back. They're working on a record that's coming soon. But I see him, you know he's his. His pin game seems to be nice because he's getting a lot of credits on, you know, with the Drake's, the Drizzy.

Speaker 3: 47:08

GZ and he done, I'll agree. But yeah, bargreasy's done hooks and stuff like that with the boys and it might be, getting good placements.

Speaker 2: 47:15

But it's just kind of like I just I think he's ready for me Granted, he did a record with Snoop Dogg and Ludovar, right but I think he's ready for that, like that piercing the next level, like I'm surprised the label ain't coming, say, hey, we know you're probably getting 20, 30 your show. Let's, let's, let's take it up, let's try to get to the, to the 100 K.

Speaker 1: 47:34

I don't think it makes sense for him to take like what they might offer him he can make in two weeks, 17 months, if you want to. I think they will offer him. They definitely will offer him some.

Speaker 2: 47:47

You got to come with a good night.

Speaker 1: 47:48

Yeah, they'll offer some inwards, but he he probably do. On the math, If I want to, I could drop two projects going to tour, Pay this person to do that for that and he probably like man. We can make that. So if you know you can make it and you, you giving up your freedom and who knows what side ventures he got going on that businesses to where you like man, it's going to slow down a whole bunch of other stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if he not, if he he turning down deals left and right already.

Speaker 3: 48:19

I think he should be a mogul bro. He should be his biggest Snoop Dogg bro. I feel like that's he's in that lane, he's in that, that, that Snoop area. He should be huge, bro.

Speaker 2: 48:30

The one thing I like about Greasy, though, although he's probably not. You know face wise, you, when you talk about Atlanta, you talk about Florida. I think I don't see. I mean, I don't see some other places, maybe the Bambas too, he, he had the performing now.

Speaker 1: 48:46

He got on the weekends he getting it in. He got some markets on lock. He got some markets away. He go to he, he, he, a pool of bigger crowd than some Legends. No disrespect by saying that, but I've seen some local acts do, some regional acts do better than some, you know, well established artists in certain markets. That's why I think I think he good I'm not sure if that's even something he want.

Speaker 2: 49:18

That's interesting, and we got to get Bargreeze on here one day. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2: 49:21

We'll put that out there. Yeah, hit us up. But yeah, I just wanted to get y'all take on that man because, as I saw it, I understood it and yeah, it would be nice. I think we, the music scene in our city, is different, and I say that too because now I don't see nobody dropping, no more like so now I feel like damn, I'm searching for it, but it's like it's a whole nother generation but art. You know the generations that's in their late 30s, early 40s. Ain't too many people more artists putting out music like that. Besides trip every now and then, I would say he's more on a consistent basis. You'll get a single or some kind of project. Whatever motivates him and pushes them. You would get something. But there's not too many other artists I see putting out music. A shot out the pop of duck, I know he just dropped something. He's on a different path, though it's more motivation, good music, though Good music. He's putting out good quality music. So shout out to duck. I see him, and that's another.

Speaker 1: 50:20

He'd be talking about too.

Speaker 2: 50:21

Yeah, he only I would love to get him on the podcast. I'm definitely would love to reach out duck.

Speaker 1: 50:26

Hey man, we want you up on. Follow us back on Instagram.

Speaker 2: 50:31

Facebook tick-tock and all that. Man, that's good, that's good, but yes, so that was another thing, that was one, and they got to get everybody that bad that bad.

Speaker 1: 50:40

Yeah, they got it. They got to give it. It's, it's um we we did.

Speaker 3: 50:45

It's who does, who does. Who deserves it, though, like who's.

Speaker 1: 50:49

Everybody.

Speaker 2: 50:51

I heard they ain't giving it out like that to everybody. I wish they were. Somebody got hell. I'll take it right now.

Speaker 1: 50:57

We if we use in the. For too long Artists have been Stolen from. So now today is so transparent. This is happening again. People don't even notice is to what degree is happening. Yo yo yo post. They taking how you talk on your social media. They taking how you do astrology readings. They taking your handles. They taking your hashtags, like they taking anything, anything. That's winning how you do yourself isn't Promote your only fans. And, yeah, it's people making money off of Fake profiles making more than the the actual titties. Who got the titties on a chest?

Speaker 2: 51:43

Yeah, I don't even care about the bag that much for me personally, I would want a loyal fan base. I wouldn't even care about the bad.

Speaker 1: 51:49

No more doll.

Speaker 2: 51:50

You give me 30,000 real fans, 30,000 On the low end. 30,000 real fans. Well, I why I pick a venue. A thousand people will pull up. I'm Gucci, I know, I, me, I want to be trippin, I'll be performing.

Speaker 1: 52:06

Thousand people, or that's the bad.

Speaker 2: 52:07

I'm not saying for me like even if a label didn't come, if I could just continue, if I peers, however, I need to pierce and get that there like that, that would be dope, like I'll. I'll be okay with that, just torn and doing shows, be able to pick a spot, almost like how little Russell doing pick a spot and they could do a. You know they could put in whatever they want to pay. Even if they don't. You know they won't give me 2010 fit. Whatever they do that, I'll come up and do my. I will set we vibe and keep it going man.

Speaker 1: 52:34

I'll tell a little Russell. Shout out to little Russell. Angels, shout out to everybody who, on his side, I like that. They got out his way. It ain't many artists that everybody just got out. They that artist way and let them do it exactly how you want to. Yes, I'll shout out the little rest. I haven't seen nobody since like the Tyler to create a days that Was able to do something completely different. And Big Draco, soldier boy, like it's some people. They got out they way all the way in.

Speaker 2: 53:07

The next thing is, as we talked about the Buster, though he, he got Timberland Swiss beats for the executive proofs this project. So, drago, like do you feel the producer? Like is as big as they used to be? Like is it better than just like? I don't hear the producers getting enough. I feel like back in a day you knew the producer, the jazzy phase, the timber. Like you knew the justice league, you know cooling drape Producers were a thing like they held weight, you knew you go to them, you was fun to get a hit. And today I just feel like it's, I don't hear nothing about.

Speaker 2: 53:44

They don't unless I hear a tag and I'm like oh such a search did that, but without a tag. I just are they still? I mean, I know they important because we need the tracks, but what happened to the producers?

Speaker 3: 53:55

they used to put them on produced by, on the, on the title of the song. They don't do that anymore. Those guys and moguls that everybody gonna know, you know who those guys are, but I Forgot who said it. But they said they need as facts, they need to give producers more recognition, definitely the artist or the, whatever it is. Or we don't have CD cases anymore Like we used to flip them over and we get all the information like we used to. Back in the day. Now I Sometimes when you go in the lyrics of the song it tells you who wrote it and who produced it. It's not there all the time.

Speaker 3: 54:35

Yeah, I get that sometimes, if that's, if I go in Not all the time, but it has to be, has to be.

Speaker 2: 54:43

I don't know if they post a different, because I'm Apple too, but I heard Spotify. You can see the the credentials better. I don't know, but you had the producers that became super producers.

Speaker 1: 54:51

They was like Establishing artists, too correct?

Speaker 1: 54:56

him and had his artists. You had even own up to Metro boom and like, there was people who Raleigh had artists. So some of the ones it's not getting the recognition may not be coming in what don't act and and it's going back to the parts of the industry that we allowed to get fired there was people in between helping me. Help that was helping to facilitate these type of situations where now, like, say, when gloriala got on and she was working with a producer that was kind of up and coming too, if you would have went to a whole another time, they might have gave the producer who made that single, they might have gave him a Distribution deal. Right, they were like a you produced this, you, you basically develop this artist. You was working with her out of you know Memphis all these years.

Speaker 1: 55:50

We finna get you a situation. What else you got? You had people that was doing stuff like that, right, and we we messed ourselves up. Could we cut a lot of those departments that don't even exist, normal in there? Now they just sign in, you know influences and stuff, but that, that that space that we allowed to get eliminated, stop people from getting situations like that just from one song. It happened with a whole bunch of people. Back in those days Timlin was getting the situations Pharrell Rizzo like so many.

Speaker 3: 56:24

A lot of the upcoming producers that Came up with an artist, came up with an artist is like with with Gucci. He was producing almost every single beat out of Atlanta. A lot of those producers they came up because they had an artist to to stay focused on and you know, and grind with and Right now their moguls. Now too, like I'm a name, mike will definitely a big one yeah he been quiet recently. Yeah, and DJ must have been quiet as hell too, yeah he got a situation with his wife right now that's.

Speaker 3: 56:54

I know his situation is different, but um, who, we? Who else we got? We got a dude. I was doing the OJ juice man with Gucci. He, he was just on the Jtov, yeah, he was. Yeah, they gave him some situations, Exactly, yeah they got big and they got real big moment. You know getting the situation, it was a lot of people getting situation, but that was when those departments was there.

Speaker 1: 57:16

The producers was really working, though, like they was getting the notification.

Speaker 3: 57:20

Yeah, it's producers working today Like if you, if we was to go back double a, would get a label deal.

Speaker 1: 57:27

Right, he would get a label deal today, those departments ain't you got staff but you don't got those, those department heads that can actually their self sign up, sign off On their own, don't have to do wait for social media. They were like, oh, you made this beats for this. This is it All right? You finna give you an imprint, who you got next, who else you can do this for? And they gonna put all the other that it's enough to build a storyline Around it. Because they understood the art of the storyline. This was. This was where their creativity Was.

Speaker 1: 58:03

Now you got people ain't respecting it like I might as well wrap myself and you. You might be like and I'm using a loroso as a reference, but he's a dope inspiration. And I'm using a loroso as a reference, but he's a dope emcee, but loroso can be a label head. He like a person like your mindset. Oh, you can like. You can run some of these departments at the major labels, though, with some of your ideas and stuff like that, it's people up the global zone. The global zone can. He could run an entire department at a major label. Just what he got right now. And it was people who it was there. It was their talent, their skill. They was hired just because they was able to give people like you and others those shots and they it was they job to have them budgets and cut them checks for those situations and we messed up by putting our middle fingers up to a lot of them.

Speaker 3: 59:06

So our a and r is just sitting back and just watching what's next they man, it's a computer doing it.

Speaker 1: 59:12

Now you got you got accountant departments. You got stuff like that. You got them People checking emails. You got the IT department probably making all the money in In the major labels now, but who? Who is a new? Who is the go-to guy with you? We knew people who can get you a deal. There was a list remember the a and r list of people. You get a whole list of emails of all these people. I'm talking about pages of names that can change your life. Who are those people we can go to today?

Speaker 2: 59:48

No, it's all changed. I think they eliminated because they're like you know what? Because maybe because of a soldier boy or someone who was able to do it without a a and r and have a viral moment and everyone's talking about. They're like oh shit. And then here comes another person who has the success. It's like oh shit, just let the artist do it on their own. We're gonna come in whenever they have all of them in them and just get them where they need to go. So now that that shit. I think that just started depleting people jobs, possibly because it's like, oh, we don't need you to go get it. We could sit here at the point of our computer and just wait for it to show who the internet talking about, who went viral, who they talking about and then bail geniuses that experimented with souls boy, and what he was doing them.

Speaker 1: 1:00:33

Those spaces don't exist no more. Right, because you would see way more people Getting opportunities, right. But who knows what the plan is for music, so the move might be into tech.

Speaker 3: 1:00:48

So could we say the big mogul produces, they don't. They don't really gotta put nobody on, because they put people on like we got Timbo, that had a whole line of genuine and Aliyah.

Speaker 1: 1:00:59

They need them. Departments back. A person like Timbaland need not to keep done. So yeah, he probably is. But the Swiss, all these people, I Guarantee a lot of the names you bought but they got more than.

Speaker 3: 1:01:17

They got more than 10 people.

Speaker 1: 1:01:20

I bet you they'll tell you it's a difference at those labels that the support they was getting to break genuine and the Missy Elliott. Yeah, the battle and I think the bags were different.

Speaker 3: 1:01:30

They were definitely the bags.

Speaker 1: 1:01:32

Everything with everything was different. You hear no where, nor say he'll be majoring at any time, because you know you got less. You was getting less per sale. But you have way more support and what you can do, okay, like you was moving different and Even though they, you was getting spoiled in a sense.

Speaker 1: 1:01:52

Now, with However they move and you can, you can kind of make some side situations, that's I don't know. Open up a car, why it's like just certain things, why you is getting that money. I do feel like it's more people around now. That's actually there's more information too to help people who get in a little money in the beginning to actually do some different things To where they just don't. They don't fall back to zero because it ain't too many New artists. It ain't too many artists, I would say recently. I would say this I see a lot of artists that are not hot, eating good, like you go on a social media. They got houses, they got On businesses. Like they you can tell they did something. They ain't where they used to be, but they made sure they did something. Rather, they torn or doing Certain other things, or they pop it on social media.

Speaker 3: 1:02:44

They've figured out ways an artist need a producer. Producer needs an artist.

Speaker 1: 1:02:49

Yeah, we need absolutely Rob.

Speaker 3: 1:02:53

Rob wave sticks with mainly the three, but he does dip in into new producers but he sticks with his main three. You know, I'm saying because it worked for him. I ain't got the names, but I've heard them. But but they, if you hear him, if you hear a lot of his music with the Senators, it's the same three guys.

Speaker 1: 1:03:11

Yeah, LA Reed would have gave him a label deal.

Speaker 3: 1:03:15

Oh, they're already dirty. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah the producer.

Speaker 1: 1:03:17

Yeah, you're right, the producers would have been able to what he from Bartow, Florida. I.

Speaker 3: 1:03:22

Don't know exactly, all right.

Speaker 1: 1:03:24

Yeah, same Pete, same Pete. Yeah. Yeah, la Reed would have gave the producers a label deal, imprint situation like they was. I Missed that and I'm I'm embarrassed that we used to. You know crap on them and we at some point not us per se, cuz we was we was trying to get To get on, but out there was, out, there was enough that rebelled and was succeeding. And it made it to where? Because it is a business. It made it to where it stopped making financial sense because you was able to see success Come along and these departments end up not mattering To the short-term goal it just didn't make because it was bankers at the top. That was like eighties, these, um, the, the grids or how it is that they look at like it ain't looking good. We don't need this entire department.

Speaker 3: 1:04:25

Let me, let me access some. It's a soft topic, but y'all saw rhythm and flow on Netflix. I don't know what it is. When y'all get some time, please pull it up.

Speaker 2: 1:04:34

Is that the female hip hop?

Speaker 3: 1:04:35

document no, no, no, no. This is one where it was ti Cardi B and um Chance the rapper as Judges, yes, judges.

Speaker 1: 1:04:45

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:04:46

I heard I pulled it up again. It's it came out wrong, covid, but I pulled it up again and have my girl watch and she was stuck to it. It was really good. It was got good and I'm waiting for season two because they came from different locations.

Speaker 3: 1:04:59

But, I'm with with the music tip. I think it's a it's a good watch. It's a good watch. It's different from all the other music shows that we watch. But To get back on topic man, um, I See it's. I think again, like I said, an artist. Neither producer producer needs an artist, but really got to know what they're doing, absolutely absolutely so.

Speaker 2: 1:05:24

Boosie was in the media, a pretty good about the artist that's sample of his music right and not reaching out the proper way. No, rod wave probably was one of the biggest ones. I think he had somebody else do it recently too. But uh, rod wave, you know, sample one of the records, didn't hit him up, didn't hit nobody out, dropped it. And I want, I don't know if Boosie would have kept the same energy, because it's Rod wave and you like, oh, this nigga already him got a big fan base and it could generate a lot of money. But you know, so Boosie went to his uh Life and and discussed that Rod wave, need to hit me up? You sample my music? I'm about to get my laws, I'm about to sue. So Everyone's asking what damn man? You know Rod wave made his comment man, you know, you could have hit my line, ain't no need to do all that. But also Boosie said this has been going on, this ain't the first time. And I feel like it's the same way like if Rod wave Someone like a raw wave, you could easily get in contact with somebody in Boosie camp because he gives out his managers or his bucket agent numbers every other post.

Speaker 2: 1:06:29

So, boosie, somebody you gonna miss, you could have easily hit him up to ask for clearance or how much you want. So, long story short, they went back and forth and then Rod Boosie wanted 200,000 and 25 of royalties. Uh. So then Rod wave, uh, musta. So then it came out after Back and forth that Boosie don't own the whole song, that the record label that he was on on the plant, he only get 10 of it, etc. Etc. Etc. So I'm just picking y'all brains on, like, do y'all think raw wave was in the wrong? Like somebody that big he took on my Boosie could have hit him up instead of addressing it publicly. But I feel like raw wave could have done the same thing the professional way.

Speaker 2: 1:07:12

Or there's companies when you sample music you pay a certain amount of money per record. However it works. They go do the work for you and tell you, yay, no, and get the clearance you could pay a company I think it's like 300 dollars or something. They'll go do all the work for you and come back with it. What, what, the what the person said, how much percent. If you don't have access to that person, they will go do the work for you. So did y'all see that clip of them going back and forth. Does it look good for the industry and what's your take on it?

Speaker 3: 1:07:41

I seen the clip but I got more to say on that. I feel like, um, I want to say the people around our age and maybe older, are not listening to the music. Because if they were this conversation where it came up two albums ago, because he's been doing other people uh lyrics on his, on his uh music, he got Drake, he got jz you talking about raw wave sample, yeah, and I'm sure he probably if he didn't hit Boosie, I'm sure he didn't hit them up either, but they probably don't give a damn, but he probably wanted that smoke at the time.

Speaker 2: 1:08:13

But still, he's still doing it, but he has so much other people's lyrics, any songs, and then you know, I mean you would have to go all the way to the writers credit to see if they, if he got clearance or not. But I get Boosie got estates, he's building stuff he got houses on top of houses in the backyard, he got kids to feed, and that's all he's saying.

Speaker 3: 1:08:33

I just want what's mine, rob's should have definitely hit that man up. That's what I feel.

Speaker 2: 1:08:41

Before he did the song like the proper way. Not try to say, okay, this hit me up dawg, pull up on me, I got you Tell me how much you want.

Speaker 1: 1:08:49

Right, Right here before. Yeah, he might not. Maybe Rod Wave didn't realize what level he on.

Speaker 2: 1:08:59

I don't, derek. I find that hard to believe.

Speaker 1: 1:09:02

Because if I'm like local then obviously I know I ain't reaching out to nobody if I'm taking something.

Speaker 2: 1:09:09

Exactly, I can understand.

Speaker 1: 1:09:11

Because he did it in. He know that maybe a chance that Boosie gonna hear it. Then it's like oh, you had a level where you want the artist to know that you using a stuff. He just at that level. But if he didn't do it, if he didn't reach out, then I don't think he know that he had that level where that's necessary.

Speaker 2: 1:09:36

You know, Rod Wave only perform in arenas right, you don't do clubs.

Speaker 1: 1:09:39

That's what I'm saying. He must don't know. You got to know who don't know.

Speaker 2: 1:09:42

Come on, Slab.

Speaker 1: 1:09:44

Who doesn't know?

Speaker 2: 1:09:45

If he does clubs, I would say okay, he doing arenas though.

Speaker 1: 1:09:49

But I'm saying I agree with you, but I'm saying he must don't know To my Rob. No, no, no, no, it's people on his team who told him.

Speaker 2: 1:09:57

I know he think he thought Boosie was just gonna say man, I appreciate that that's dope Right. I don't think he thought Boosie was gonna put on a business hat and say damn.

Speaker 2: 1:10:06

And everyone's saying this the sober Boosie that we seeing now, who ain't on the drugs, the lean and all that other stuff. He's more focused on his business shit. You know what I'm saying. It's cool. I just want what's mine, because they look like he's lining it up from young blue to anybody. If we gonna work, we gonna work, but you're gonna do it the right way.

Speaker 1: 1:10:27

I feel like even Rod Wave team would have brrrrrr Thought it was necessary to reach out.

Speaker 2: 1:10:34

I don't think they look at Boosie like that, though I think Rod I'm not saying he shouldn't, but I think Rod Wave, we know the caliber artists that he is and they don't got the same. I don't really think they got the same fan base at all, but I just think they didn't look at Boosie like that on some old Boosie.

Speaker 1: 1:10:51

He took like a whole hook or something.

Speaker 2: 1:10:54

It's a hook, it's a hook.

Speaker 1: 1:10:58

If you on that level, you definitely want to reach out.

Speaker 2: 1:11:02

That's what I'm saying is I think that's where it stopped. I don't blame Boosie, because now people say, oh, I'm looking at Boosie different because he's going online and talking about it. But I'm like the man, it's his art. I think when we put all our all into our music, that's just like a beat Dregal. If someone go ahead and just take Dregal beat and don't at least give my dog some credit and be like, hey, this is where it's at, or reach out, you'll be like damn hell. No, hey, buddy, I need that. I'm gonna do something you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 1:11:33

It might be a whole another story to where they say we did try to reach out. No, that didn't come out Because he responded.

Speaker 2: 1:11:41

He responded Prima said damn be a homie, just tell me what you want. Pull up on me, we could take care of that. You don't got to sue a nigga. He was like yo, we could take care of the business.

Speaker 3: 1:11:51

That's exactly how he said. He said we should have that on the internet.

Speaker 2: 1:11:56

He knew he was just trying to, but I guess they must delete that. Boosie don't own the whole song. I guess it got crazy because now they trying to say oh, boosie was wrong, because I guess Boosie was trying to get just paid that bread, if you see what I'm saying instead, of Boosie can do it like that.

Speaker 1: 1:12:12

You know, Boosie can go to the hood and get it back.

Speaker 2: 1:12:15

You already know.

Speaker 1: 1:12:18

You want to make sure the artist is good with it. You want to make sure they good with it, and that's what I'm used to, and sometimes you might be paying the artist. You ain't necessarily paying the artist to fulfill contractual obligations. A lot of times they just making sure that it's clear. Yeah, they just good with it, and then you could be hit with a whole another fee from the label side.

Speaker 2: 1:12:43

The administrative side. He paying, got records, he sample. He said he get nothing from it. The artist wanted the whole thing.

Speaker 1: 1:12:49

Yeah, it happened.

Speaker 2: 1:12:50

And he just said he focused on the shows and what the record could do If you liked it that much, he just say, you know this record is going to get me on something I could perform, something that can get me shows. He say, screw it, you want 100%. Cool, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3: 1:13:04

So Tutorial lanes and nothing. Yup, yeah, buster was saying he was saying thank you to Bumbi with that track we was listening to. He was thinking everybody. He was thinking I think a couple of other people who was thinking them, because they cleared it with not even having he went to him. You know what I'm saying With respect and straight up, they just cleared it without him having to come out the pocket.

Speaker 2: 1:13:27

But I could tell Buster behind the scenes is a different kind of bring. He's a genuine, he's a law dude and you could tell he's just well respected. So I think when someone like Buster, with the right approach, I don't think you could say no, like when he got Timberland and the boys on the boat and like man, y'all doing all this talking, we ain't gonna talk about no music All y'all for the produce my album what he say? How can you tell Buster know he like all right, this is happening in.

Speaker 2: 1:13:53

So I feel like that's something I would have done. I'm sitting around three.

Speaker 3: 1:13:57

It was sitting around for hours, bro. Eight hours, he said no music and they ain't talk no music and something Buster's like what the heck?

Speaker 2: 1:14:05

Wait a minute, what's this vibing? We ain't talking about no music.

Speaker 1: 1:14:08

I was like why I want to know what they was talking about. Outside the music for eight hours you get them three people. What is all talking about for eight hours. It ain't music.

Speaker 2: 1:14:18

I'm sure life, where it's at the business ventures, what they trying to go with it. I'm almost sure.

Speaker 3: 1:14:24

What do you got 23?

Speaker 2: 1:14:26

years. Come on, man, they got you talking about. I'm sure they talking about other stuff. I get it and I'm sure when you in the business you ain't trying to talk about it all the time In Miami too.

Speaker 3: 1:14:35

Come on, man On a yacht For sure, what's that on your?

Speaker 1: 1:14:40

yacht oh baby.

Speaker 2: 1:14:42

We performed on a yacht. That was my first time going on a yacht.

Speaker 1: 1:14:44

I missed that.

Speaker 2: 1:14:46

It was an all black event and I performed on a yacht. That was my first time. I even took some pills to make sure I don't get seasick because I'm like I never been on a yacht.

Speaker 3: 1:14:55

It's just a big ass boat, that's fancy.

Speaker 2: 1:14:57

I was like three decks dance floor, club and just a yacht. You on the top if you want to oversee Miami and Lauderdale. So it was beautiful bro. We performed with this Haitian acts, a few Haitian acts performed and we got a chance to perform three songs. Beautiful bro, it was a nice vibe, but I don't know if it's the medicine I took before, but I didn't feel the boat that seasick, I didn't feel the rock, it was smooth.

Speaker 1: 1:15:27

Was it really in the coastal or y'all was in the ocean?

Speaker 2: 1:15:29

Bro, who was out there? That's a good question. I want to say we hit the ocean because we was gone for a while.

Speaker 1: 1:15:35

You seen the horizon? I can't remember. Just a line, just a line?

Speaker 2: 1:15:39

I can't remember.

Speaker 1: 1:15:41

I don't like large bodies of water like this, so I'm not the type of thing you had your head.

Speaker 3: 1:15:45

I'm sitting down like when we performing.

Speaker 1: 1:15:49

I don't think I could. I don't know if I could do it. We got to be on the in the coastal.

Speaker 2: 1:15:54

I don't like when I disappeared from the lights was getting far. I was like, oh shit, like yeah, I think me and H-man definitely popped off on some medicine. I took some the motion sickness medicine.

Speaker 1: 1:16:10

I survived it, though In the coastal I do, but I ain't, I don't know, it ain't no whole roof or nothing.

Speaker 3: 1:16:17

What about a big ass cruise? You wouldn't do it.

Speaker 1: 1:16:19

I would do it Because I could be on the inside. I could do it. You get that vibe.

Speaker 2: 1:16:25

Though Y'all huge, you get that vibe. I feel like if you went when you enter, if you don't want to see two, you stay on the first floor. Then it was like the second floor was the club, like was the main where we had dinner, and so you was on a yacht. Yeah, yeah, yacht, yacht, yacht.

Speaker 2: 1:16:41

Yeah, it felt like what I'm saying. It felt like a house, the bathrooms were nice, like everything felt like a club, but it's on a boat. I didn't know we were moving until you go, like, if you feeling you want to go on the third floor and just look at the world, like that's when you like, oh shit, we moving. But if you want to second and first floor, you would think you was just in a club. I've never been on a cruise too, by the way, so that's on my bucket list, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 3: 1:17:05

I like the land I like the land.

Speaker 2: 1:17:07

I like the land too, but they told me you get all the same.

Speaker 3: 1:17:10

You can't tell bro. You can't tell it's fun. You can't tell All right. The little, uh, that princess crap, the little thing we got here in Palm Beach, the princess, don't do that. You definitely going to feel the rocks Boy. I got seasick. That's the first time I know that I get seasick and you can feel the motion, because it's not as it's a big boat, but not as like the big cruises where you got rooms for rooms you got.

Speaker 2: 1:17:36

have you ever did a mansion tours in Miami? Like if you go on Biscayne you pay the 30, 40 dollars. Show you Diddy House yeah that's a vibe, yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:17:45

I see what that house is. I've been on Star Island and all that yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:17:49

It's dope. You can do it any day you want.

Speaker 3: 1:17:51

You go on.

Speaker 2: 1:17:51

Biscayne and you parking, you go to the Biscayne.

Speaker 3: 1:17:54

They feed you that thing.

Speaker 2: 1:17:56

Yeah, it's a vibe. But looking at the houses like Scarface where they shot the original Scarface Diddy was outside, like it was. It was like holy shoot. My son went crazy when he saw that. You know what I'm saying, but yeah, you got a lot of celebrities down there bro.

Speaker 1: 1:18:12

Yeah, that's what they ain't trying to turn it.

Speaker 3: 1:18:14

Jennifer Lopez they ain't trying to turn it.

Speaker 1: 1:18:17

They ain't trying to turn it into that other thing.

Speaker 3: 1:18:23

Are we going there? That's not good.

Speaker 1: 1:18:24

Yeah, I'm trying to think about it. If I'm looking at it that way, I'm like man. This vibe sweet man, we ain't trying to turn it into that.

Speaker 3: 1:18:35

So Diddy ain't Diddy, no more.

Speaker 1: 1:18:37

Yo Diddy Huck. Oh, he changed his name Well shit, I don't know you got that tattoo on your head After everything going on, I mean 50 Cent riding them 50 Cent told them to sell them Revolt?

Speaker 2: 1:18:47

Yeah, they'll feel me, but the allegations is getting out of control for Diddy man After Cassie and he done settled. It's like left and right people coming out of the Woolworths ex-employees and everything man.

Speaker 3: 1:18:57

Step down, step down, yes, from Revolt.

Speaker 1: 1:19:00

Oh, I ain't hitting that. You didn't hear about the allegations.

Speaker 2: 1:19:05

Did you know about Cassie? No who going to tell me that was a big thing Because he settled quick, though. But Cassie, she came out Give me, she got her bag.

Speaker 3: 1:19:16

That's what happens when you take another man's girl, man.

Speaker 2: 1:19:20

That was.

Speaker 3: 1:19:20

Ryan Leslie girl. That was Ryan.

Speaker 1: 1:19:23

Leslie girl, yeah, man, yeah, shout out to Ryan Leslie. He went to Harvard, goat yeah, and he really smart.

Speaker 2: 1:19:31

But dawg prayers up for Diddy. We don't know what's going on, but I guess when everything plays out the way he's supposed to play, we will see they kind of saying he like it, looked like the same thing that happened to R Kelly. It looked like it's happened in the Diddy bro. Oh, young kids, no, just the way the allegations, the way everything coming out. I didn't say nothing. Young kid, don't throw no prayer out there yet.

Speaker 3: 1:19:51

No, they don't Like all everybody's coming up and Well, it's a lot. They keep coming up.

Speaker 2: 1:19:57

Yeah, I'm about to say these things, this we don't seen these signs before. And then it's like you start to see, you know, when you know, when you do something. The algorithms is gangsta, by the way. But, once you now all these clips start populating, you're like damn, that was red flat.

Speaker 3: 1:20:12

Bro, not just for women, bro. Yeah, red flat For men too, bro.

Speaker 2: 1:20:15

It's getting, yeah, it's getting crazy and 50 cent not pulling back at all, bro.

Speaker 3: 1:20:21

50 cents been always chewing the arm, so 50 cent just pulled.

Speaker 2: 1:20:24

The one that got me was he had a clip of him performing and he went to the crowd like this, and then Diddy comes out from the back and like packs Jay-Z on the butt, like that, and I'm like that's a whole different meaning to take that dog. It was just so much different. Wait, did he slap Jay-Z on the butt?

Speaker 1: 1:20:40

Yeah, jay-z know this Jay-Z didn't like.

Speaker 2: 1:20:43

Jay-Z was on stage.

Speaker 3: 1:20:44

Yeah, Jay-Z didn't like that 50 was running around on stage.

Speaker 2: 1:20:46

He packed on the butt like a football player would do to somebody when he do a good job. Yeah, jay-z know he did that.

Speaker 3: 1:20:52

This is an old clip.

Speaker 1: 1:20:53

This is a clip, so Jay-Z definitely ain't like that. This is like early 50s, if they didn't show the reaction of Jay.

Speaker 2: 1:21:00

You just see Diddy going up to him and smacking him on the butt a few times.

Speaker 3: 1:21:05

Jay concern was 50 being on stage with him, Because it was four of them. I forgot it was Diddy Jay 50. It's one more person performing with him, but Diddy was running around.

Speaker 2: 1:21:14

Not LaMau Jay.

Speaker 1: 1:21:15

Jay 50 was running around.

Speaker 3: 1:21:17

This is early, like almost early 50 years, like big 50.

Speaker 1: 1:21:20

Okay.

Speaker 2: 1:21:21

Yeah, because Diddy old bodyguard is telling certain things. It's a few people, even with Harvey. You know what I'm saying. It's certain things coming out. No, his assistant he had. It's a lot of stuff starting to come out. You know what's crazy too. 50 cent kind of predicted this, he said after the first is in Ocasio. He said here comes the allegations, and five, four, three two and guess what happened? Bollilert this spam.

Speaker 1: 1:21:51

Bam Bam, I mean, you gave him the news.

Speaker 3: 1:21:55

It's in the news. I don't know why I'm getting so. Okay, so let me, so, let me. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy, yeah, so let me, let me. Let me tell you how I get the news. You see how we social media got into, like the effect, how we said, like what's that, what's the mixtape, mixtapecom and stuff, stuff like that went out, or hot new hip hop went out. So, like the news, nobody's really watching TV like that Right.

Speaker 3: 1:22:18

So they started their own what in their own channel on social media Facebook or Instagram, Facebook is mainly I can cover it, shade room covering all of course they don't refer to came out, but that was on the why first See between Bollilert and Shade Room on definitely said and 56.

Speaker 1: 1:22:36

Shout out to you here because you know none of that was going on.

Speaker 3: 1:22:39

I'm proud of well like I said, it was in news. That's what I first seen it W, oh, you know, palm Beach TV.

Speaker 1: 1:22:45

So is anybody surprised, hmm?

Speaker 2: 1:22:51

No well this is the thing, and this is what happens once you start, once the old clips start to resurface, you start to say damn, you didn't really think it all the way through. All these were signs, like when you see Cassie now hiding in this carpet. He was filming her and maybe you question she got a cover Now was she beat up?

Speaker 3: 1:23:10

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:23:10

Well, how did she look? Boom, that was one. There's another clip where she walked up. There's that some event there's do treated her and she went to go shake his hand and you see, diddy, looking like what the fuck you doing, and he grabbed her like, pulled her close and then he wanted to like know, like this my girl and she didn't say a word.

Speaker 2: 1:23:30

You see it just go. So it's just like you start to see these things and like, well damn, was this happening in front of us? And we really ain't see. And of course, 50 been riding Diddy for the longest about being a little booty band and you think it's just jazz. I don't know, you think it's, you just thinking it's 50 being 50.

Speaker 1: 1:23:49

But you got a house I'm thinking stuff like that. Then, like people already know, that's the thing about the industry. It everybody, always, everybody, always mentioned how weird the industry is. Yeah you get up the clips that are winning and you get you. You just going to know some things happening and you not finish, say nothing about it. You seen Stump the Yard.

Speaker 3: 1:24:14

Oh yeah, you seen, dude, that was Chris Brown brother.

Speaker 1: 1:24:17

No, let's oh yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:24:18

Yeah, he came out and had a story about Diddy recently. To exactly what you just said yeah, Tell my how the business is. Say long story short. He ended with yo, I'm over here, bro. And he's like, yeah, yeah, who you over there with, I'm by myself. He was telling him to come To where he was at. He said yo, I'm in the bed with my wife is three in the morning. That's when he's like yo, it's three in the morning. He's like yo, who you over there with, he's like I'm by myself. But did he wanted him to come? That's going to do with the beard I know you talking about. Yeah, he just dropped that bro. Yeah, men are coming out also, bro, so it's it's it's him and all people.

Speaker 3: 1:24:56

I wouldn't think we've done that, but I'm like whoa, but hey.

Speaker 1: 1:25:00

Hey, hey, if it's going. Hey, hey, yeah, I have to say something. Why is? Why is happening.

Speaker 3: 1:25:07

Nope, just say hey, hey.

Speaker 1: 1:25:09

I might. That's probably why I'm why. I ain't getting there.

Speaker 3: 1:25:13

They probably like me hey hey, hey, let it go, man, I'm going to kill. We can't let it be like that bro, I'm going to go Kanye, kanye why?

Speaker 2: 1:25:25

it be like that, man, it's not.

Speaker 1: 1:25:27

Kanye said something to. And oh, I don't Forgive me, I'm sorry Kanye said something because I don't like to be gossipy, but Kanye said that he was. It was when he was going on one of his rents and they would. He was like he said, did in. Other people can't say nothing. I remember they not, they not allowed to. I remember he said he don't only one that can say what he say, because basically he was implying that he knew some of the stuff that other people did. So people like, got things hung over their head to where you can't say nothing, I understand. So it was like a he called, he called them out when he was mad about they went to the birthday party and stuff and ain't and nobody tell them that they were about the birthday party. He was, he was looking at everybody sideways, yeah, yeah, so, so. So that's why I'm not surprised, because I understand the levels of elitism the higher you go up.

Speaker 1: 1:26:32

If you ever, ever, ever, ever, ever see me hanging with multi billionaires we on yachts, we on boats, we in places I got of us, I got designers on anything, just know they're doing some weird stuff. Hey, call me, check on me, check on me. Say hey, bro, you good, I see you out there eating. You got. You got money and stuff they done. You got the bag. You said you weren't gonna get on no boat. I see you, you on the boat, bro, you all right.

Speaker 2: 1:27:08

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:27:09

Like blink twice if you good. I'm like no, I'm good, but still check up on him. Find my mama number. Hit you up, yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:27:20

See what's going on. We're going to keep you on the straight path, bro. We got you, fam, we got you. And want to give a shout out to my boy, jay Love, who celebrated his 40th birthday too. We had a good time this weekend, man. It was a black and red affair. Everybody was in the building. Good food, good lit, good music. Man, they started playing some Bizzle and the ice bird.

Speaker 2: 1:27:42

Lit lightin' animals All right Bizzle, All right P Bizzle. Yes, sir, it brought me back. I saw Mirage and I saw Phantom at the same time. But they was doing the elbow nudge People came out jerky and I see people I see people getting it, man. It was a good vibe bro.

Speaker 3: 1:27:58

Good vibe, White folks on the floor and everything. Yes sir, yes sir.

Speaker 2: 1:28:02

Shout out to Jay Love man, we see your brother, salute, keep, and we wish you plenty more man. Wish you plenty more brother and a healthy one, man. That's what's up. Man, that was good to see. I see some people I ain't seen in years, like ever since I stopped playing football. Certain cats just moved and some people live south, some people live north, but it's good to see a lot of people, man, and everyone doing well and getting to it, man. So that was really good. And a lot of them was in tune to the music. People put out their phones and were sure, I'm not listening to you, bro. Look, all right. Well, you already know what it is, man, y'all tuned into exposure and we are home. Pa, pa, pa, poop, poop, poop, poop, poop.

Speaker 3: 1:28:46

It's more than just a podcast. It's the exposure.