77. Circadian & Quantum Health Perspectives on Nutrition | Ryan Carter

We discuss the circadian & quantum biology determinants of an optimal human diet, Dr Paul Saladino's switch from strict carnivore, raising a baby with circadian principles, why you might consider living in Central America, and much more. 

Ryan Carter is a Registered Nutritional Therapist, Sports Nutritionist, leader in personalised health optimisation and founder of the Health Coaching & Personalised Nutrition Clinic, Live Vitae.

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Speaker 1: 0:09

and coming to us from the jungles of nicaragua. I have the pleasure of talking with ryan carter, also known professionally as live vitae, and he's a nutritionist who is really incorporating circadian and quantum biological concepts into his professional work and into his education on social media. So, ryan, thanks for joining me. Thank you, pleasure to be here, as it includes these concepts of light light as health, light as medicine and how they fit into your framework when you think about health and treating clients.

Speaker 2: 0:53

Yeah, from first principles I think that's where we should always start and the understanding of life and then, as an organism, humans fitting into that. So, again, working back, not just basically going straight in and say what food am I going to be consuming? The supermarket, what, what is everyone else doing? Okay, everyone's talking about doing fitness, truly understanding the organism within the environment and the environment dictating basically the music that the organism dances to so light, water, magnetism, the ideas put forward by, obviously, dr jack cruz, understanding his big concepts and then integrating it into sort of a system in a decentralized manner of empowering clients, regenerating them, restoring them and and again, giving them their keys, basically to the car, to the house, the flex, and have that health living in our modern world, which obviously we know is corrupt, toxic and basically a battle day to day, but again, without our health on our side, it's going to be a losing battle.

Speaker 2: 1:54

So, again, it's not about dwelling in the fact that, again, the majority of our, the plants that we consume are loaded with pesticides, roundup everything. Or again, there's potentially plastics in in fish nowadays. Again, it really doesn't matter, because it's always going to come back to having optimal health and being able to flex that okay. So again, no matter what you do, what diet you do again, it's not about the identity with the diet. It's's not about, okay, how many reps you can do, it's about how strong and robust and adaptable is your health, and that's what. Basically, I'm all about learning and understanding and then empowering my clients. Again, sharing snippets on social media, basically, Again, instead of getting into the weeds and who's right, who's wrong, this is good, this is bad, all that baby talk.

Speaker 1: 2:45

Yeah, and there's a couple of really big concepts that I think you do really a great job at kind of teasing apart, and one of them is, I guess, dietary dogma and maybe the observation online that there's lax nuance in terms of advising people what to eat and so commonly it gets people get put into the camps of of, say, carnivore or animal based or, and you know, vegan. What are the nuances that you think are important for people to understand when? When actually choosing what to eat.

Speaker 2: 3:21

Well, I mean first. First of all, the question would be like, why do people dive into sort of the diet tribes? Again, it's that community aspect, it's the connection, it's the engagement of others, the social aspect that they're really probably looking for essentially and like, like minded people, but obviously they might be operating a bit more of a closed mind, whether that's pro-metabolic petarians or keterians or or whatever there is. Again, you could probably make the same thing as, like, all the deterient people going crazy on that nowadays. But again, I mean it's, it's it's likely stemmed from the way we've been educated about nutrition, conventionally in schools, or what our parents have been have been taught and passed down to us in schools, or what our parents have been have been taught and passed down to us, and again, it's just so abundant and and everywhere on social media, or it's just so popularized that it's very hard to break free from and have a bit of more of an expansive open mind to view things and see food differently, as a reflection of the environment, as that bar code, basically, the electromagnetic barcode imprinted in in food, basically, which is essentially what it is all about, with basically the elements, um, but again, unraveling that is very hard in some people because we get caught up on that. Um, whether it's the calories, whether it's the macros and again I personally think I've you can actually get a bit neurotic about all the micronutrients as well.

Speaker 2: 4:52

So a great mind such as chris, master john again fantastic brain about nutrition. But again, at what level does that become a bit too much? Okay, sure, consume and opt for grass-fed beef, and it's great, it's fantastic, it's regenerative, it's what we need. But again, at the end of the day, we're worrying about maybe something that's really not that important, comparing the minor details in the grand scheme of things. So again, I think people can get lost completely about the whole principle, principle of food and especially see that with the disconnection between our environment. So again, you're going to need to be working harder at your nutrition and diet and the food or the restrictions that you're going to put in place or enforce from your, your guru, that you look up to, because again your environment sucks, because again your body's not working coherently, and again that's just not just with the environment, it's the nervous system, it's the immune system, it's the circadian biology of all those systems put together as well. So again, when we build that coherence and not only does your mind think better and more expansive, again you can actually have more extensive food choices and again you can also have peace with just again consuming local food.

Speaker 2: 6:09

I don't need this flavor explosion all the time and hit of tastes around the world. Again I'm pretty content with eating some local eggs, using the local butter, having the seasonal vegetables, eating some seafood again and chill again. We don't need all these concoctions from around the world. Or again, we don't need this solitude with a diet enforcing our sort of identity. And again, that is sort of connected to books. It's sort of connected to um, obviously, podcasts. It's connected to sort of videos. It's connected to sort of videos. It's connected to a whole bag of other add-ons, basically, but again that community thing a little bit lost. I think that's a very deep intertwined connection with the diet culture out there.

Speaker 1: 6:54

Yeah, my perspective on these different, say restrictive, diets is people guess they get a benefit, they, for a certain amount of time or a certain period in their life, in a certain part of their health journey, that they find profound benefit, um, and then perhaps they take on a position that this is all there is and that this is necessarily um the best thing for everyone all the time and I think that is the the key part where a lot of um nuance gets lost in terms of, of, of messaging, so not to say that people, some people will thrive on um, on a period of, of strict carnival diet, say, and for for a period of time.

Speaker 1: 7:35

But it really I think the efficacy goes to what you said, which is, if the other facets or pillars of their environment are not, uh, like they are bathing in Wi-Fi and EMF and their circadian rhythm is cooked, so to speak, then there seems to be less tolerance for deviating from, say, like a strict carnivore diet, before suffering from various symptoms.

Speaker 2: 8:01

Sure, again, I mean, that's the reflection of their dopamine levels. To decipher sort of the truth, essentially. But what you referred to earlier about, okay, let me be vegan for three to four weeks Again, and I feel fantastic. Well, what is that? That's the honeymoon period. Okay, you're just describing a honeymoon period and again, of course, for the most part, most people come to all these diet tribes, from the conventional sad diet essentially, or the pyramid, and again they're going to get benefits by taking out the junk food, by taking out the seed oils, by taking out the fried food, or again it could just be energy excess coming into my body which again you're not utilizing because again your environment sucks. So there we go. Again coming into my body which again you're not utilizing because again your environment sucks. So there we go again. Or again you've got a trashed microbiome, so you're not really extracting the right, say, gasotransmitters from the guts, essentially. So again, this is going to be a big problem and basically that honeymoon period will again, maybe, depending on your health, it would last two weeks, it could last six months again.

Speaker 2: 9:03

For example, let's use paul saladino. He obviously migrated to costa rica. He's very set on the carnival way, for I think it was like one or two years and it and it, apparently it worked very, very well. And then he hit a roadblock. So again, that was what you described a honeymoon period. And again to his point. Again, was it the environment? Or again, was there actually some nutritional context within that where his carnival diet was actually backfrying? Because, again, like you and I know, again, he doesn't eat a lot of seafood. Okay, so again, that's a big big thing when we're talking about the nervous system, when we're actually talking about water as well, with how iodine works, again, all these things. But again, it's just okay, it was the carnival diet. It was too long, I needed sugar, I needed the fruit per se.

Speaker 2: 9:47

When, when, maybe actually not exploring his own dogma and saying is there actually missing anything missing from this carnival diet that I'm not getting? Because again, there's a big difference between a land carnivorous diet and actually more of a sort of I don't know your lands and sea, land and sea carnival diet. Basically. And again, obviously you've had some great guests on the show Obviously Dr Jack Cruz, obviously Michael Crawford and again, if you've read his book the Survival of the Fattest, you know the importance of eating seafood.

Speaker 2: 10:19

But again, obviously there's the concerns and hysteria. The plastic is just so toxic and again, or even the heavy metals and I actually was listening to your podcast yesterday or it might have been on Ricky Flo's podcast, which is also great. Again, michael Crawford, just saying the whole heavy metal things is just hysteria, it's actually just like pushed from the FDA and it's again, it hasn't actually got any real biological effect in the, in the human. And again, who knows what it is? Is it actually the emfs? Is it actually the circadian disruptions? Is it the microbiome which is basically causing the issue with the mercury in this fish? Not necessarily the fish's fault.

Speaker 2: 11:00

Again, we always like to blame other things without looking inside our health. But again, like if we actually had optimal health, these things really wouldn't be touching us. Basically, as we can see and look at the experiments of, like gerald pollock, how the exclusion zone forms and pushes out basically the smallest scales and in in, basically like biochemistry, if you want to see it in that angle, it pushes this out. So, again, if we got that robust health, things are basically not coming in to our cell membrane essentially. So, again, that's that's my view of things.

Speaker 2: 11:32

And but again, the honeymoon period is is real. That's where you see people just jump and jump and jump and jump. They listen to one guru, to the next guru, to the next guru, and obviously we're on a team of a bit of context and nuance and that's not sexy. People want controversial, controversy, sorry, people want this is bad, this is good, because they want to get told what to do instead of thinking about what to do. Okay, again, that's that dopamine levels that we're referring to, and when we put our circadian light environment in a place, well, what are we doing? Our people? They're going to be a bit more woke. They're going to be a bit more higher in dopamine potentially.

Speaker 2: 12:14

And that's where they can decipher and sift out all this sort of noise and, in the end, stop the honeymoons and get grounded and understand about the local seasonal food. It's not about chasing micronut, local seasonal food. It's not about chasing micronutrients. They're not about worrying about calories per se. It's about being grounded, using the environment, eating to when you're content, and again, everything else will sort itself out.

Speaker 2: 12:37

Basically, and again, as a nutritionist, saying that that's kind of like a bit screwed, but again, that's truly the essence and again we just need to realize that our ancestors kind of like a bit screwed, but again, that's truly the essence and again we just need to realize that our ancestors weren't like, didn't have all this information out there about the nutrient density of a spleen or a heart or a liver. And again, of course, those foods were important, no doubt, but again they didn't they, they didn't have this sort of quantitative, quantitative look and and connection to the food in a sort of way, which again can create disordered eating in a certain sense, in in a healthy way or even in an unhealthy way of it too yeah, the.

Speaker 1: 13:15

The main, I guess, issue with um or that I think you're we're both really agreeing on and I think this is the perspective that you adopt when you take an understanding of circadian and seasonal biological rhythms and apply it to nutrition is that the environment is dictating so much more what you should be eating compared to what people are realizing.

Speaker 1: 13:40

And the point that you made with Dr Paul Saldino, who is doing amazing work educating on industrial foods and getting people closer to an ancestrally appropriate diet, is still lacking possibly the key point in my opinion, which was moving to Costa Rica, moving to the equator, and then finding that he was getting electrolyte disturbance and getting perhaps lower androgen levels and other kinds of symptoms because he was perhaps lacking foods that were appropriate for that location. And if you're very physically active and you're sweating a lot and you're trying to maintain a zero-carbohydrate diet and there's a big, ripe, juicy papaya growing in your front garden, it's a problem, I think, if he's not eating it. And then you spoke to DHA and fresh seafood. And, yes, michael Crawford has, and I really encourage people to listen to those episodes but it's a fundamental nutrient and if that is being excluded from the diet, then perhaps there are other um uh problems that that's creating for sure.

Speaker 2: 14:51

But again, it's understanding his, his history as well. And again, obviously we know that, but again, just clinically understand the client's history. Okay, what was the mother's diet like? Did they actually have sufficient thyroid physiology in place? Did you consume, or did the baby consume, enough iodine? Again, the development of the nervous system.

Speaker 2: 15:11

Again, personally, for me I I live very close to costa rica, I don't, I don't neck like bananas, papayas, pineapples, all that kind of stuff, although basically it's in my back garden, but again, I don't avoid it. But again I, I, I personally don't have the craving or desire for it and my physiology is, is not saying I I need it either. But again, I'm from england, so again I'm from a high northern latitude, um, but again I do think there's a whole thing missing with the whole electrolyte issues. And again, an experiment that again n equals, one that I've run is actually increasing my iodine intake from things like seaweed and I actually have explored this with certain clients as well and then the desire for salt and things like that is actually reduced. Additionally, of how, how our physiology works with how, again, the aquaporin gating systems, our circadian biology, our metabolism, we're making water inside our cell. Again, this, this, basically, is all about conservation as well. So even we should think about salt. So again, it's readily available.

Speaker 2: 16:21

It's very hard nowadays to have a salt deficiency. And when I hear people craving or needing a large amount of salt, like basically like dr james the nick puts forward I'm like there's a big connection, there's something missing here. Again, that's basically again the connection for the environment and the light. So again, halogens are I don't know if you understand what halogens actually mean it's actually salt making in our body. So again, when we have iodine around, it's actually salt making to a certain degree. And again it comes back down to the physiology of retention. And even here, living in Nicaragua, when I'm in the sun I sweat crazy, but yet my salt intake is nothing through the roof to replenish that. But yet my salt intake is nothing through the roof to replenish that. So I've actually influenced and with time, basically re-engineered my biology and changed how my sweat glands basically secrete salt and again I've got more salt in the tank, so to speak. Basically, so again there's some powerful things there.

Speaker 1: 17:22

But again, I mean we, we can easily become myopic when we, when we just dive in all about nutrition and we leave out the elephant in the room, which is obviously the light, the water, the deeper depths of physiology, or even nutrition to a certain degree, and how the nutrition connects with, basically, our mitochondria yeah, that that is the message and that is something that you know, I I think they're going to benefit certain people at certain times, but they're what Dr Cruz calls a half-truth, in my opinion, and they're really going to leave people with questions after some period of time, and I don't know how long that period of time is. But people, I think, are going to be looking for something more once they realize that their message, that they've maybe been following, isn't the whole piece of the pie.

Speaker 2: 18:34

For sure. Again, when you listen to again, for example, say if I was living that sort of fruit, animal-based life here in Nicaragua and I'm sharing this out openly on social media, this is great, I feel phenomenal. I show off my six packs, I show me deadlifting something heavy, again, people will despise and be influenced upon that. And again, say, if that person is in Iceland or Scotland or Ireland, or again, even in Australia in the winter as an example, they're going to replicate that. And again, who knows, is there going to be problems down the line? Is that actually going to be flaring the autoimmune issues? Is that going to cause gut disturbances? But again, you rarely hear the negatives of that. Online people really talk about that. I mean, if you go on reddit you can find that. But again, you're not going to hear oh, this was a negative response for the animal-based diet on Heart and Soil's Instagram page. You're not going to see that, although there is some real effects of that. And then obviously, the gurus are just going to the leaders are just going to brush it under the carpet per se. But again, I mean it really does depend where someone's at. So, for example, someone does try the animal-based with fruit diet in New York, but again, like we said earlier, where were they before? So again, dire in new york, but again, like we said earlier, where were they before? So again they're going to get the honeymoon period, but again, maybe, again, that's a maybe again, maybe the deuterium is going to bite them in the ass like two, three years later. Basically, because again it just basically destroys the kinetics and the thermodynamics and the fundamental level, because that environment is a mismatch to the food they're putting into their gut.

Speaker 2: 20:06

But that said, which is worse, basically the, the conventional diet, or again, the animal based diet, and again I would like so you could pretty get away with more animal based diet because of the protein and using protein in the short term can rectify a large amount of issues. Basically, and again that's talking about sulfur, which is basically one of the things that most animal based people don't really go into. But again, that's one of the best things about an animal-based diet is the sulfur content increasing for most people. Or again, the, the actual amino acids to build glutathione, and again that's a powerful road in our tolerance to light and handing that free radical response. And again, obviously, when you jump that up, you're gonna do better in the sun, you're gonna hold more water inside your cells, you're gonna be making more vitamin d, potentially, and all these things, but again it's the seed oils which is causing the sun burning, obviously talk to um, talk to the ray peat approach and this, this ray peat dietary approach, and what you with the problems that you see?

Speaker 2: 21:09

um, in terms of that, uh applied universally I think the the principle of the diet is. So again there's ray peat. And then there's people who talk about ray peat, okay. So again there's a. So again it's a bit like some people. Again, I can't talk about Dr Jack Cruz or talk like I'm Dr Jack Cruz. Jack Cruz is Jack Cruz. I can only say this is my interpretation and what's put forward and explaining what I see. But again, I would never say this is what he does. Advise people to take my word for it. So again, I think there's a big confusion in that space. Advise people to take my word for it. So again, I think there's a big confusion in that space. But again, the prominent figures of the Ray-P diet. Again, they get quite a lot of good things right, but how they do it is this completely butchered, especially with the whole supplement regimes and even like hormones added into the picture.

Speaker 1: 22:01

Can you explain it?

Speaker 2: 22:03

Well again Can you?

Speaker 1: 22:04

explain exactly what it is, because some people know about it, who listen, some don't well, again, it's a bit like a anabolic, pro-metabolic diet reflecting stress.

Speaker 2: 22:14

So stress is bad. Burning fat causes oxidative stress. This comes back to the whole dha thing as well, because obviously dha actually is oxidized and that's again one of the premises of the whole point of you consuming dha is that it's a free radical and it gets oxidized for that reason. But going back to the point, it's basically an anti-stress diet and it should be having sufficient glucose, saturated fat, easy to digestible carbs you shouldn't be on a calorie deficit, okay. It should have sufficient calcium, collagen glycine. Again, there should be several times of the day you should be having food because, again, going without food is a sort of stressor. It should be tracking your body temperature. Um, it pays close attention to things such as estrogen as being bad. Um, what else have we got in the mix there? Poofa is, or the omega-6s are a big negative. So again, there's. There's some good things there.

Speaker 2: 23:20

And again, clinically, again, I wouldn't get someone who has got fragile health to be doing straight away a carnivore keto diet, because the ability to utilize glucogen sorry, gluconeogenesis is going to be slightly impaired and again, that's going to be reflecting leptin in the picture there as well, of activating sort of that pathway, but again at the same point, at the same time. Basically it comes back to what I said earlier about flexing your health. If you've got that health on your side, you should be able to be on a low carb diet for certain periods of time. You should be able to go without food for a period of time during the day. Again you can utilize glycogen, you can utilize your fatty acids that you've got. But again it's sort of the hysteria. Stress is bad, we've got to compensate. And again we've got to eat. In this narrative, no understanding really of seasonal or local food. And again that basically just is the barcode of how hydrogen works in our body. Again, maybe he does put forward a local regime, but I don't think that's the case.

Speaker 2: 24:23

There's a use of like in some people. They're using like white sugar, coca-cola, aspirin features quite heavily. What else is there? But again it is really a very, I would say, diabolical diet to be going for, but again saying that like long-term diabolical I mean. But clinically I can see it's again the honeymoon period, clinically in the short term, of sort of restoring a little bit of of tolerance, but then move it forward from there.

Speaker 2: 25:02

Basically, again, I think it is sort of like an anabolic diet to go on. So again, when you're younger you can likely get away with it more, in my opinion. Um, it probably can help people's digestion for the most part opposed because then it reduces a large amount of like vegetable load. But again, with that, are we talking vegetable loads? With the anti-nutrients, are we just talking about the actual pesticides, glyphosate, which disrupt the gut in the first place? So again, that's sort of like another elephant in the room. What is the benefit of going low carb or reducing these anti-nutrients in a diet like oxytocin or lectins? Is it actually the pesticides and reducing the roundup? Is that the real benefit of the low-carb diet to a certain degree as well? But again, this is like the tricky stuff of really understanding and connecting the dots.

Speaker 2: 25:54

In certain situations, like for example here, I personally have less control of organic food. It's very hard for me to find, again, although there is a farmer's market here. So again, my diet doesn't have a lot of fruit and vegetables. From that premise, essentially, now, again, I still eat fruit and vegetables, I just don't have a large amount of it because, again, I have less control of of where my food's from and what? How is it sprayed and handled? As an example, with beef, I know it's like 100% grass-fed and fantastic because again, the people here can't afford corn and the other slop that they give cows here.

Speaker 2: 26:31

But again, going back to the repeat that the whole thing again it has touches upon the seasonal aspect. Okay, I can see me eating orange juice. I can see me eating some fruit. I can see me having sometimes large amounts of dairy in certain situations. I can see snippets of wisdom coming through and as a clinician I'm going to steal some of that good stuff and extract that and then flex it and use it on a personalized sense. I think that's the real key of understanding your diet templates out there.

Speaker 2: 27:00

But again, for me personally, which diet that makes the most sense is essentially like the epipaleo diet put forward by Dr Jack Cruz, and then just applying a seasonal, local angle on it, essentially Then applying on top of that someone's personal goals. Again, everyone's got a choice and freedom to again to live their life. So again, someone might want to get big and jacked and strong, so again, that's when, again, maybe eating local and seasonal is going to sort of conflict their goals. As long as they understand. Okay, that means we're going to have to eat potentially more carbohydrates. We're going to have to do things a bit differently. As long as they understand that, that's cool. So again, that's really how I see sort sort of the repeat diet.

Speaker 2: 27:47

But the supplementation is just like what on earth? How, if your diet is that good, why do you need all these shenanigans with the diets, with the niacin, with the vitamin e, with the thyroid desiccated again like that, each person has a complete, different supplement list. And again there's a girl online I think she's called veronica or something and again I had, uh, I tried to set up a conversation with her, um, but she cut. Again it's like back and flows, like punches, here and there, little jabs. And again I shared an image of me in the in gym, basically with saying I'm only eating like 17 to 1900 calories, which I'm eyeballing a day.

Speaker 2: 28:28

And again I'm showing my physique. And again I'm about 98 kilos or like 214 pounds. So again I'm kind of a big guy and she's like, oh, my metabolism is like a preteen girl. And again that's showing the disconnection and our understanding of physiology and true bioenergetics, because again she doesn't realize I don't need as much food, my food or my energy is harvested from all my semiconductors working basically, again I'm like grounded. Right now I'm outside watching the sunrise. Again, my skin is literally the same color as nicaraguan's, um, so again she's completely lost and again think it's about pro-metabolism rapy. I need to be taking thyroid progesterone and again not understanding the true power of of this way of thinking.

Speaker 1: 29:20

And, of course, she obviously lives in london and really I, I'm sorry, I was gonna say of course she. She obviously lives in London and really I, Sorry, I was just going to say of course she lives in London. Yeah, she's mismatched to her environment.

Speaker 2: 29:28

Oh, big time. She's from another background, living in London, but again saying that she has got results doing what she's been doing on one of her goals, which is skin health. So again I can understand how again she sees that as a positive. Okay. So again, again she's got oh, this is really working, my skin health is improved doing it this way. But then, like we said earlier, what? What is really moving the needle? Removing the junk, removing the seed oils remove again, improving her lifestyle, improving her light environment, all these kind of things which she is doing, it's not necessarily the repeat diet which is actually causing these effects and again, she could basically be causing problems later on down in life. Basically, yeah, it's.

Speaker 1: 30:13

It's this goal, which I think, um you spoke to earlier, which is the goal is is robust health. That is actually the goal here. The goal isn't, um, there's no prizes for sticking or adhering to a certain lifestyle for the longest amount of time. It's not about that at all. It's about being able to deal with stressors because you are so healthy, and whether that stressor is in the form of high sugar, carbohydrate from local fruit intermittently, whether that's a stressor of not eating or fasting for multiple days, whether that's a stressor of traveling internationally and having a disrupted eating regime, I think the key point is that our goal is that robust health. The dietary approaches can get us part of the way there or as part of the piece of the puzzle, but the whole holistic puzzle piece is actually the lifestyle and and the light and the temperature and the things that you mentioned earlier. So let's talk about that. Let's talk about the non-dietary facets of health optimization that you prioritize, that you think contribute to that kind of holistic, robust health yeah.

Speaker 2: 31:25

So it's going to be stable, stable lights, essentially natural light, and again, if that's not something that you can achieve, being close into the tropics, it's basically flowing with that light schedule where you're in, basically. And again that can get kind of ugly and hairy in certain places in winter or summer. But again you, our mutual friend tristan scott, again he's showing you out there on his on his twitter basic, on his ex profile. He's in scandinavia and he's embracing it. He's out there at like midnight when it's daylight and riding it. Essentially, this is something, again, that flex. So again, I don't expect anyone to do that straight away, but being able to sort of sync with the environment outside within the light cycles, again always being grounded as much as possible. It's just basically a no-brainer. Again there's even like shoes nowadays, where again it could be chilly on on the surface. Again you can wear some socks which are grounding, you can wear the rizzle shoes which are grounding. So again, there's possibilities everywhere.

Speaker 2: 32:31

Obviously that gets a bit more tricky for living in a block or a flat, and again, there we have it. It's that sort of modern culture which has disconnected us to our roots, so to speak. Again, simple things with the emf in the environment, our relationship with our phone, social media, our computer. Again, dining in our sleep routine, which again is going to be a story about how we start our morning. Some form of movement, obviously, that has a big effect in cortisol regulation and melatonin production. Stressing the mitochondria in a healthy way, again, practicing things such as sauna or cold stimulation, not necessarily ice baths, but again going outside on just a vest and some shorts, maybe for someone that's enough. That perks up the hairs of our skin. Again, that's what cold therapy is. It's not about jumping into an ice bath, so to speak. Again, these are all small little things which stack up Again. Obviously, if we have less control of certain environments and situations, we need to be looking at blue light blocking glasses. Maybe there's a potential. Looking at red light therapy devices Again, if you're not doing all those, in my opinion there shouldn't really be a need to be supplementing for the most part or again, even exploring testing, if you're not actually respecting those.

Speaker 2: 33:54

Again, what good is it doing sort of like a hormone panel and seeing things and even then dissecting? That is going to be extremely nuanced and contextual, based on your environment. But again, what does it actually really mean to a clinician in the first place? Or again, have you actually got the whole robust markers such as the stimulating hormones to the ovaries or the testes to say and say, okay, estrogen or testosterone is good or bad potentially, or where it should be?

Speaker 2: 34:22

Um, and again, the biggest thing that I see again is coming back to that connection. And again I keep on talking about the connection thing because that's basically, I would say, where my health when I was beginning my journey, sort of declining. I was isolated. I had to leave home, so I lived in my uncle's, I had to cut all my ties with my friends, so I actually feel my health spiraled down from that moment when I felt isolated and alone.

Speaker 2: 34:47

And again, in our city, once you think you're surrounded by a lot of people, you can actually be very lonely. And that's the same thing with social media. It gives you this false sense of social, but again it's far from social. And again, it's so much better to always call people, opposed to texting people. And again it's so much better to be meeting and connecting with people than calling people. And again that's that sort of exchange within the eyes, again, the biophotons being released and absorbed, essentially.

Speaker 2: 35:20

And again I think that's again another wonderful thing that you're doing with your conferences and meetups. And again you can find that even in London I've got a friend who does a health meetup, so again they are dotted round. But again I think that is sort of another elephant in the room which has a big effect on our health. And then it would be deciphering who you're giving energy to for your, your information, basically being very what's the word being very specific of your sources of information. So we can obviously not get your information from, like the fact checkers online. But again, that's also the case of just listening solely to one person, such as I don't know, ken berry or sean or Sean Baker, and again, respectively, these could be good, they're good people, they have good intentions, but again, if you're only going to be listening to them, you basically become the puppet of them. So, again, having a diverse spectrum of different people to listen to and being open, and again that comes with building your health up, basically, again, I think that's quite a lot.

Speaker 1: 36:28

Yeah, that's a massive amount and I'll emphasize the point of syncing with these environmental signals.

Speaker 1: 36:34

That's really what I advocate for, what I teach and what I do myself, which is just think about yourself as a vehicle or something that is requiring this constant updating and synchronization with environmental cues, and that is essentially what the circadian rhythm is, that that is um, the, the, the running of biological time.

Speaker 1: 36:59

Our biological clocks need updating and synchronization with environmental time there. That's a constant process of information gathering. And what you mentioned and yeah, I respect Tristan a lot for his dedication and adherence to this lifestyle when in somewhere like Scandinavia in summer because, as you mentioned, you have to if you're really wanting to be adherent is to really be awake at times where the sun's up, and if that's midnight then that's midnight, and Dr Cruz did a great podcast with Owen Sheesby if anyone wants to really get the nuances of high latitude living. But it's not easy to adhere to that and it's not easy to be cold and to embrace the cold, and I guess that's why you and other people move to places like the equator, because the stability of light and the stability of those environmental signals make healing a lot easier, I believe.

Speaker 2: 37:56

Yeah, for sure. I mean light stability is a big one for regaining your health. And when you say the synchronicity of the environment and flowing with it, again, biologically that would be working with apoptosis and autophagy cycles. Again the introduction of carbohydrates, stimulating basically more free radicals. And again this is something that's lost in diet space, where they're telling you to, okay, take apple cider vinegar, sprinkle loads of cinnamon on your food to reduce that blood sugar response. But again, if you're actually eating appropriately, telling you to, okay, take apple cider vinegar, sprinkle loads of cinnamon on your food to reduce that blood sugar response. But again, if you're actually eating appropriately and following this sort of seasonal and local way of eating, basically you actually want that free radical signal of glucose. It's actually a healthy way of removing problematic cells and again you wouldn't really need to worry about that blood glucose spike to a certain degree. And again there's a mechanism where you'd be low carb for a period of time and become somewhat insulin resistant. You add in the glucose and bang. That's that free radical response that we'd want to a certain degree.

Speaker 2: 38:59

But again, nowadays, in our modern society, that seasonal approach is sort of again lost. Now it's basically just diets and you just do this diet. There's no understanding of time in nutrition, literally seasonally, yearly, but also how that works within our biology. Again that that that's a big issue. Um, but again going back to your point, like, um, living in a high latitude, again wild animals migrate, and again it doesn't have to be migrating as far as I've done, but again it could be migrating like I don't know, 200 miles as an example, or a little bit more. But again it's. Again our modern culture and society have told us to just buy a home and stay there and be put and live our life this way. Again, that's going back to the first thing is about questioning this. It's about understanding life. Okay, there's a migrating aspect in most wild animals that's lost in humans. So again, I think that's something to really understand.

Speaker 2: 39:55

But obviously that's going to be an offense if you're, if you've got a mortgage on the house and again you've got a lot of kids, you can't really move. So again you can potentially be stuck and that's going to take a little bit more time to re-engineer that. Ok, so again you can re-engineer your life. You can maybe again put things in place and at a later date move down south or again have a plan of again in the winter, going on six-month holiday a bit further down south, basically with the family and kids, and you can work online as an example. So again there's all possibilities and again I think a lot of people just give up and say they haven't got control over that. But again there's this, there's again there's opportunities out there to do something about it, and if not, that's just going to be basically sucking it up and embracing it, adopting these principles about light nutrition, and again things will basically get better and better.

Speaker 2: 40:56

The issue of living at a higher latitude or a lower latitude away from the tropics, is you only get that one summer, basically, and again even that is temperamental looking at europe right now in the summertime which again is just a shamble, is there's no sun.

Speaker 2: 41:11

So again this is the problem. But so again you only get one flex and one opportunity of that sun, sun exposure to really charge up your semiconductors to a certain degree. Now again you can charge up your semiconductors with, like the grounding, with the dha and all these nutrients coming into your diet. But again the light is going to be that that upgrade, because again it provides more, not technically free energy, but again it enhances our biology to a massive degree and especially being white skinned, which most people are, that's going to be extremely more sensitive to that as well. And again, that explains why my vitamin D is literally through the roof living down here, because, again, I just absorb it so much and so easily, basically compared to someone who's actually truly local here, which is going to be a harder time of getting to sort of anywhere near my levels.

Speaker 1: 42:02

Yeah, it really is hammering home the point. I think the theme of our discussion so far, which is how important your environment is to your health, and if you can't, if you have to with your inner state of poor health, really shaping that environment is gonna be the best thing that you can do, and for you I mean both you talking to your clients and me talking to my patients we'd be remiss if we didn't give people the advice and tell them, first and foremost, your problems will be best sorted by moving and by picking up and moving to an area of greater light stability, of greater temperature stability, of higher UV yield. Yet, even if that's offensive and even if people don't like to hear it, and maybe they make excuses, but I think we as practitioners offering gold standard advice, necessarily we need to say that, despite how people might not want to hear that message. The quick point I'll make about the seasonality is people and I really liked how you brought up the migrating animals people feel that that's a normal thing. They don't feel like it's abnormal for birds to migrate massive distances. They don't think it's abnormal for mammals to hibernate. Yet we've somehow removed ourselves as homo sapiens from these mammalian habits that are obviously critical for other species. So this removal of ourselves from the natural environment, from our perhaps environmental contact, is really at the crux of so many of these health problems.

Speaker 1: 43:45

I want to talk about vitamin D. I want to talk about sunlight, uv light and the solar callus because, as you've mentioned, you've illustrated how someone from a northern latitude, from England, from the islands of Britain, has moved to the equator the islands of of of britain have has moved to the equator and your, your ability to synthesize vitamin d is is massively um increased compared to someone with more epidermal melanin. So so tell me about your, your practice with with regard to the sun. How do you do you fit in that with your regular life? Do you do it? Do you build your solar cast intentionally? Is it you're just in a maintenance phase now? Or tell us how you think about it.

Speaker 2: 44:33

Yeah. So it's just acquired sunlight and improving my solar callus from I don't know when I first started listening to Dr Jack Cruz's work, from maybe like 10 years ago I'd say. And again, that's from living in Mexico, costa Rica, here in Nicaragua, living in the Middle East, croatia for a little bit. So again it's just building up my exposure, but again, at a fundamental level, you need to be healthy to actually create vitamin D. Most people don't understand that. Again, you need your whole system to be working to to actually make it. Again I've got clients who are from the uk and again they go, maybe to dubai or they go to cyprus for a period of time, say for four, maybe like two or three weeks loads of sunlight exposure. Literally their vitamin d moves like one number. And again I like, how is this even possible? What's going on here? But again I mean it's the environment. In dubai it's not as okay. Direct vitamin d sunlight connection. There's a lot to it. There's pollution, there's the particle matter, particle matter, particle matter. There's actually sand in the clouds, in the air that is actually reflecting sunlight as well. But again it's on your skin. How you're actually going to be going to be making it so, again, that requires time to optimize. Um, so again, it's not like I've been here for a year. I've been here like nicaragua, on and off, for over like four years and now I don't really need more sunlight. I mean, I don't need more vitamin D. Basically, again, there's no toxic levels of having vitamin D at like 120 nanogram per deciliter. But at the same time, again, I have a massive desire and craving for sunlight, whether that's in the morning, with just the UVA, which is very like a short window, because the UVB comes pretty quick here. But here it's the rainy season, so again, again there's a lot of clouds, so this is massive for red light. Okay, so again, I I can easily go out outside now, not be sweating, not being doing too much, but again, at the end of the day, I don't need too much like vitamin d, uvb exposure or I don't need to go as hard as I, as I once did, by any means. Um, so maybe I've, I've actually feel a bit more calmed down in that regard, but again, it's still important to get it on your skin and basically slow down certain things.

Speaker 2: 46:54

But again, there's nutrients involved in it, there's a circadian aspect. That's why vitamin A is sort of connected to vitamin D metabolism. There's again sulfur coming into the picture. There's the isomerization of how water works. There's an actual element of skin temperature which actually influences the rate of vitamin d synthesis as well in this, in the caroteno sites. So again there's that. Again I think it's michael hollick. He's got a paper out there saying there's actual specific temperature to actually optimize that vitamin d production. So again, if your thyroid physiology or say, if again you can't hold that water, you can't hold water, you can't hold heat inside your cell, with how the sort of the water works, the water networks, again that that's going to be overheating or not be hot enough for that sort of thermo isomerization step. Essentially You've got things like magnesium, which is obviously going to be connected to mitochondria health, because again, when mitochondria suck, magnesium sucks too.

Speaker 2: 47:55

You've got the transportation, the vitamin D binding protein, which is a big one, how albumin is working, but again it's just the quiet health and vitamin d now can actually be sort of a bit skewed to look at, especially when people take supplementation. So again, it's basically in some people it could just basically be a false number. They've hypothetically increased their vitamin d but they actually really haven't done anything to their biology. And again you, I ask clients, okay, have you when? How much vitamin D supplementations have you been taking? And then I can actually have an understanding of their true reflection of vitamin D. But then you can see it across the board. When people have like proper true low vitamin status from lack of sunlight, you can see it in their skin. And again, things like maximizing red light, maximizing the uv, uva light, again darkness at night time, these are all maximizing how your body holds and then charges with sunlight. Essentially, um, because again, light is also important, but so is darkness and that's the other sort of yin yang side of of the equation. Without darkness, our biology basically still becomes chaotic from the day. Basically, darkness is basically where we create the order and again that's going to be creating a regeneration and again, more sensitivity to that light stimulation.

Speaker 2: 49:20

And again, when you get healthier, in theory, you become more sensitive to certain things. It's a bit like, say, for example, this glass is clean, pure water. I put one contaminant in there, it shows up apparent. Now, say, if this, this, this glass, is just like a bit like murky water, so we've already some contaminants in there. I drop one more contaminant in there. It's not going to really make a difference. So again that the healthier you are, the more sensitive and apparent things become. So again, pretty straight away, I wake up, I go outside, boom bit of light and bang my brain's awake. I can I can knock out this podcast. I can do some work. I can do loads of multitasking. I can take my again. Number one thing is taking my daughter out for a morning walk. Whilst we again catch sunlight, she gets sun on her body.

Speaker 1: 50:07

We listen to the animals she's observing again, that's, that's all the essence of like optimal health and being able to flex it yeah, and it speaks to how many um pieces or how many components we need to think about when we're getting safe and deliberate sun exposure, and that's something that I teach in my solar callus course, and it's kind of ironic because 200 years ago, none of that would need to be in a course at all.

Speaker 1: 50:37

I mean, it was all second nature, it was all byproduct of living in harmony with our natural environment. But, as you've so well stated, we need to mind our light environment. We need to make sure we're getting sufficient amount of nutrients that contribute to optimal vitamin D and melanin synthesis too. So there's a lot of pieces into this and, as we talked about, if you're in an environment like you, are you kind of solve for so many of them, and it doesn't actually it's not as complicated as people think if you can look after some of those foundational practices in this environment, in this lifestyle, and what's that been like? What have you particularly, I guess, looked out for in terms of optimizing her health?

Speaker 2: 51:36

And, yeah, what can you share from that journey? Yeah, so mum's circadian rhythm, her light environment is key Again. Her use of her phone, electronics around her body, her body, her diet, making sure she's eating sufficient seafood, some organs, some liver, but again not going too crazy or overboard with it with anything nutritionally, um. So again, that's in the background when she's obviously carrying the baby, and again, watching the bump, not having too many ultrasounds or testing or being around highly populated areas. Again, that's pretty easy to do here, where we're from in Nicaragua. Um, being grounded all the time.

Speaker 2: 52:17

And again stress is a big one for mum. Again, as a dad, you, at the start of the child's life and even in the womb, you're very handicapped in a certain sense. I can't do anything, I can't feed. When the baby's crying, again, I can't do much if it's hungry. So again, at the start and this is a new experience for me being a dad it felt kind of like, oh, am I doing something wrong? The baby doesn't love me, what's going on here? But again, as she gets older she can actually get that connection and again she actually she's probably listening, she can probably hear things like hear me talk. And she's in the bedroom right now she's like where's dad? Where's that? Like? Where is he? Like we're usually out this time going for a walk, um, but again it's building. So again she's extremely like, close to me now, um, but again it's it's making sure mum's food and lifestyle.

Speaker 2: 53:07

Everything that we discuss is on point. To be honest with you, it's nothing extraordinary, as some people make it out to be in a fertility space and again I've read several, like numerous, books about fertility and and and baby health and all this kind of stuff. Again, it can get easily overblown and again, as we see, like that, that shitty lifestyle or poor health you need to be taking them going a wall within, and again there is evidence to support that. There is evidence to support, okay, taking 100 to 200 milligrams of coq10 per day might be effective in infertility cases. But again, if you're not infertile, in your good health, again, is there actually need for supplementation to the extremes that all these people are making out to be?

Speaker 2: 53:47

But again, like now, it's just about entraining her circadian rhythm so she can take over from mum and make her healthier than mum, because again, mum has a different way of living than I do, and again, it's not bad or anything like that, otherwise I wouldn't be with her. But again she has her way and that's from her education and her lifestyle of Nicaragua and again there's certain things that she just can't comprehend or understand. So again, influencing my baby and getting her skin, getting a circadian biology set and letting her basically take over from the sort of control and influence of mom, basically so she can just be more independent and decentralized away from mom, and again working on her right now, making sure again there's no crazy like medicines, antibiotics being used, allowing her to fight certain things on herself. Again being careful and not being doing stupid things, ever taking out to stupid places where they're. Again there could be some like again, people with like coughs, or again I'm not scared of people who are like um, who have like flu or anything like that. But again it's, you just need to be mindful. What's right, what's what doesn't feel right for them, what their baby needs, and again, even things in nicaragua it's going to be very different from things in the UK Again, the environment, the weather, it has an effect on the immune system, so certain sort of diseases are going to be very different from where they are in the UK as an example.

Speaker 2: 55:14

But again, it comes back down to the end of the day her having health. There wouldn't be a need for any intervention, so to speak. But again, that's not shoving medicine away or or the emergency doctors or anything like that. No, they're important, it's important to have that part of your team, just in case. Um, but again, breast milk is a big one as well. So making sure she's getting sufficient breast milk and then just slowly interwean the whole food coming through purees. Again she's teething right now. So again, thinking of ideas to sort of soothe her gums and teeth, but again, again it's. It's really not as difficult as what I thought it would be. And again, I think that truth speaks values, of the lifestyle that my girlfriend and I practice as a she loves the beach, she loves the sea yeah, that's, that's epic.

Speaker 1: 56:04

That sounds a very, a very wholesome lifestyle you've cultivated and what you, what you talked about in terms of those like basic nutritional tenants, uh, as in terms of eating nutrient-dense foods like animal derived protein, like a little bit of organ meat, like a little like plenty of seafood, that that really solves for a lot of these issues that you know I go into in detail with some of these podcast guests like Michael Crawford, and we can talk about neuronal migration, of cortical neurons in the infant and in the fetus as a result or a function of DHA.

Speaker 1: 56:43

But really, if you're making sure you're getting foods like that in regularly, it's all solved. For All those details get solved. For the vitamin D situation and again it's Michael Holick who you mentioned earlier. He's done research showing rates of preeclampsia and birth intervention cesarean are higher in women with vitamin D deficiency and one reason is because the contraction of the uterine muscle, the smooth muscle there, is related to vitamin D status and if you are vitamin D deficient because you have a deficiency of UVB light, then you're not going to be able to, or less able to, push that baby out and therefore have a greater rate of obstetric intervention. So those holistic pillars are key. And the breast milk you mentioned. That's a zeitgeber that entrains the baby's circadian rhythm because cortisol and melatonin are secreted into that breast milk. So yeah, very interesting points and I think very, very relevant to make mention of.

Speaker 2: 57:56

Sure, and again, this is a key critical time for the breast milk.

Speaker 1: 57:59

The breast milk actually changes within their age.

Speaker 2: 58:03

So, again, the composition of it, the macronutrients, it is all self-regulated from mum and what's released. And even when the baby's crying, even when a baby might catch a like a virus or whatever it is a bacteria, again the breast milk would adapt. Mum would basically adapt her physiology, create the immunoglobulins and that would be delivered in the baby. Essentially, and again it's, I think breast milk is like pure, pure magic. I think it's the most, one of the most fantastic things to truly understand and um to to basically get your as a, for a female, to get into a place that make breast milk again. Unfortunately, some females can't do that and they become reliant on formula and whilst there's maybe some good formulas out there, it's not really going to be cutting the mustard, so to speak, with what?

Speaker 2: 58:51

The hormones, leptin, the vitamin a, again, all these again circadian aspects coming into the picture with these hormones is key essentially, and that's where you can see formula fed may, again, maybe it's the to a certain degree, but again the formula is formula fed is going to have more risks of obesity later in life. And again, that's something where the, the brain, the immune system, how leptin, is basically working with our physiology at a key age in our lives. Basically, and again, the baby is all about growth, growth. It's basically like all nutrients are you? Oh sorry, all substrates are used ketones, carbs, uh, everything. Basically it's going through the roof. And when we actually see how the brain is development, we should actually apply what's happening with a baby and look at the elderly or people with neurodegeneration and see how we can restore their brains back essentially of really what's going on with the baby, their development, and try to regain that development back in older people essentially. So again, some key take-homes there, because again, the oxygen consumption of a baby is through the roof.

Speaker 1: 59:59

The point about nutrients, I'll quickly make mention specifically vitamin D for the woman to get enough and this is to say you know any breast milk is. We understand that it's a very difficult, it's an emotionally demanding, it's a physically demanding process to produce breast milk and obviously every woman is doing the best thing by their baby. So if you know, if you have to feed formula, then that's okay too. But if we're talking about you know getting close to what's optimal and if you are able to, then it's obviously encouraged to feed breast milk. And I guess the point is that the nutrient status can be changed and not all breast milk is equal. It's empowering because it means that you can do different things to increase the nutrient status.

Speaker 1: 1:00:47

But I'll make quick mention that DHA is a key one of those nutrients. So the more seafood you can eat during breastfeeding period, the more that gets passed to the baby's brain. And, as Michael Crawford has talked about, that's the difference between us and other mammals is the amount of DHA that's concentrated in our central nervous system. The other point is the amount of DHA that's concentrated in our central nervous system. The other point is the amount of vitamin D that you need to pass adequate amount into the breast milk because it is a fat-soluble vitamin is 6,400 units and yes, you can supplement that. But much better to get out D-minder and understand where the UVB light is and make sure that you're getting sufficient amount of UVB light every day as a breastfeeding mom and I think it's a continuation of the pregnancy to make sure that enough of that vitamin D is being passed into the breast milk.

Speaker 1: 1:01:41

So yeah very, very important points and obviously circadian programming too.

Speaker 2: 1:01:49

I say that the vitamin D in breast milk is still not adequate for the first of the baby. So even then the baby needs to sort of improve their skin physiology to be able to make that vitamin D as well. And again, like we know, that's going to be changing the cholesterol, the lipid rafts in the biology, blood flow, which again is a big one within the baby. Again, if you look at their brain you can see all the vascular system coming through. But again, the baby still needs sunlight exposure, which is key, and obviously doing it safely. They don't have that built-in melanin from birth. So again, doing it slowly, gradually, is a key thing to develop because you can't become reliant on vitamin develop because, again, you can't become reliant on vitamin d. You also can't become reliant of like iron after like six months. And that's where sort of incorporating some real food coming into the picture. Um, again doesn't have to be a lot, but a little bit of liver, like a tiny little bit. You don't want to overwhelm them with vitamin a too much in the beginning, but again, getting them to chew on some steak, that that works amazing, amazingly, even like the juices, if they can't consume the whole thing, they actually get heme iron from the juices? Um, that's something that's sort of forgotten.

Speaker 2: 1:02:58

And again, the mum getting breast milk is sorry, the mum getting vitamin d and sunlight exposure is key for breast milk production itself, um, and again. But most people are scared to get their, their ladies out, so to speak. But again that's going to be stimulating local synthesis of of milk to a certain degree, because again you look at formula, it's just synthetic. Uh, vitamin d, and again, breast milk is unique. It's super, super, super, super unique and again, it can't be replicated within a formula. But, like we said, again, it's all about just doing your best. I'd say, if you did breastfeed again at the start, just like the first weeks are super, super, super important, and if it gets really hard and complicated, again, just doing the best that you can is ideal. And then just in training the circadian rhythm of the baby as early as possible, because you're missing that on breast milk.

Speaker 1: 1:03:51

Yeah, it's a good point to get sunlight on the baby and I think it's a testament to the era that we're living in, that even me saying that it sounds controversial to people, but you know I did a video not too long ago and I detailed the 1938 issuance by the US Department of Labor Children's Bureau and it's a six-page or eight-page pamphlet on sun exposure for infants and it's a very, very good guide to deliberate sun exposure for a child and it talks about coating the baby in a nice, healthy coat of tan, like that is what people did back in the day and that was before we had effective rickets treatments. We were using the sun. So we know now that you don't only prevent rickets I mean, there's so many other important mediators and regulatory functions of direct sunlight. So getting your baby into the sun is part of optimal health and there isn't a reason why they should be sequestered away and kept indoors. That is not how it would have ancestrally worked and that is not how our physiology works, so great point.

Speaker 1: 1:05:06

The other point that you made I think it's a juicy one and maybe it's a conversation for another time but this idea of replicating neonatal or infant physiology as we get later into our life and Dr Jack Cruz is the one who has probably talked about this the most in terms of preserving the mitochondrial function of our brain and our heart for longevity and the fact that babies are optimized to do that because they have so much subcutaneous fat and, um, you know, they come into the world into ketosis, so it's a. It's an interesting point, um, but uh, yeah, promoting that type of these, maybe similar approaches to to infant health, um in in geriatrics, could be one unique way of thinking about it.

Speaker 2: 1:05:51

Yeah, the only connection or the only context with that is how well the immune system is working to keep things in check. So again, when you're utilizing, like more anabolic fuel substrate pathways, there's more questionable things about. Okay, is that stimulating certain sort of cancers, cancer metabolisms and certain tissues? But again, at the end of the day, what we can see is like it's not just okay that there's there's cancer in many cells of our body right now, but again, our immune systems keeping them in check. Again, there's a big connection there between our connective tissue, the glycocalyx, the extracellular matrix actually regulating cancer physiology, with how the cancer cells takes up nutrients as well. So again, that's even again more complex, more, more deeper dives in things.

Speaker 2: 1:06:34

But again, I mean the issue of when we get old is we become less, uh, sensitive to sunlight as well. Our skin physiology changes, our hormones obviously go down south. So again, this is the actual big issue has become defective in utilizing the sunlight on our team and maybe that's basically about preserving the skin to really have again the best brain health because of the, the nervous system working inwards. Basically because again, the surface level, surface layer of the skin far outseeds basically the eye, although the eye's got direct access straight into our brains, because the brain's just the extension of the eye. But again, our skin really should be an optimal shell shape, basically to make up and to utilize the light yeah, completely.

Speaker 1: 1:07:25

Maybe we'll finish this discussion a bit about Central America and maybe you can share some thoughts. I was in El Salvador earlier in the year and I was very interested and intrigued to see what was happening there from a development point of view. How do you think about Central America as a place for people to live? Maybe if they're sick, maybe if they listen to this podcast and they're thinking I've got three autoimmune diseases, I've got a bunch of visceral fat, I'm ready to make a radical change. Tell us about Nicaragua, tell us about these other countries and how you think about Central America more broadly.

Speaker 2: 1:08:06

Tell us about these other countries and how you think about Central America more broadly.

Speaker 2: 1:08:09

Yeah, so again I can only give my experience of being Nicaragua. So each country has their own sort of way of doing things. So again, each country obviously has got its positives and potential negatives in the mix there. So Nicaragua, for me again, is more pure, a little bit more rough than not rough in a sense of like security or safety, but just like raw than Costa Rica, and for me that's just more potential, more opportunity, more space, cheaper. People are more humble. They don't see okay, there's a gringo, let's just put two zeros on the end of that.

Speaker 2: 1:08:48

But it's a very humbling place to live, super close and connected to nature. And again you have to respect nature here, literally. Again I've got ants crawling around my feet, I've got mosquitoes trying to eat me. Again, it's part and parcel and you've just got to respect nature. And that's the same thing with the weather here, with the rainy season when it rains, it rains. And same thing with like hurricanes passing through here not really here, but again they can pass through. But even with the sun you need to respect the sun here because again it's at a different level, the intensity, the density all day long with that sun. But again, the connection here with the nature is just unbelievable. Seeing greenery like this around and reflection of that greenery with the near-infrared spectrum is insane. Even I'm not in direct sunlight right now. Again, my whole body's getting kissed by it, essentially indirectly. But again there's different things with the government. So here the government is how to say it? Uh, locked in, I would say it like that, but it's extremely safe in that regard because it's locked in.

Speaker 2: 1:09:56

Um other countries. Again there might be a little bit more openness, where again it could be a bit more hostile at certain times of the uh, certain times in the, the election cycle, as an example. But again I mean there's, there's, there's more opportunities here it's cheaper to live you. You again, you need less supplements, you need to. Again you're more direct with the food producers here as well. So again, like the fish market, I just walk down to what's fresh, what's great bang buy at a fraction of the cost. Compared to the uk and even the uk is a great resource for fish it's just like I'd say like quadruple the price of what it is right here. Um, again, grass-fed beef is automatic here, the only things that you need to be careful for is like chicken, um, things that are easily, uh, farmed, um, you just need to be a bit more careful in terms of animal produce. But again, you get the sunlight here, you get more value, and there is other tourists, there is other international people here, so again you get a whole mixed bag, whether it's Germans, other Europeans, americans, canadians, other South Americans coming up here, and again that would be varied in different countries.

Speaker 2: 1:11:09

But again, I am very much grounded in Nicaragua. Again, if I was free, single, without a kid, I'd probably be exploring more of Central America, but again I'm pretty much grounded in Nicaragua. So again I would have liked to checked out Guatemala, honduras, el Salvador, maybe different parts of Mexico that I've been to. But again, for me, where I've been to, like in Central America, nicaragua, this place in Nicaragua I am is extremely beautiful and again, I'm super, super close to this unique volcanic two volcanoes in this island, in this lake in the central of Nicaragua, volcanoes in this island, in this lake in the central of nicaragua and again, for me, that's like the most energetic I've ever felt, living and being on that island for for a few weeks, and again I'm only like if I wanted to go there for the weekend. I'm only like 30 minutes, 30 minutes to an hour away from it, essentially, um, but again, that is a remarkable place to heal and it just works best with your biology being here. And again, it doesn't have to be like all year round, it could just be like three months of the year. Again, if you still got that ties in higher latitudes or in populated areas, just get that, escape here and just explore.

Speaker 2: 1:12:25

Again. I never knew where Nicaragua was in a map before coming here. I then I basically had some. Okay, it's going to be chaotic, it's going to have security issues. I'm not going to be safe, far from it. Again, this is safer here than in london. And again you flip, you turn on the news, or again you hear stories. London is extremely stressful to live in because again, you don't know, you're walking down the street, someone's come up on the scooter and like taking your bag, or again, robberies or burglaries, um, and the price to live in that environment.

Speaker 2: 1:12:56

For me it's just a no-brainer being here, uh, but again, I would say it's just about exploring. Come, come to central america, explore one country or do a few at a time. They're fairly close, close together. So, again, it's a bit like going to Europe You'll go to Spain, you'll go to Italy, you go to Germany. Exploring. That's probably the same thing that you can do in Central America Now, again, there's no real trains here, so you probably have to hop on like a few buses, or, again, you can get planes that drop you to different places, but that's what I would probably do first if you wanted to explore this, this, this area. It is very different from the western world. So, again, there's no amazon. There. There's sometimes power shortages.

Speaker 1: 1:13:32

Um, again, this is really connecting you back to how it was back in the day and making you appreciative of things yeah, that, that magnetism that you mentioned, or the, the, the magnetic fields that exist in those volcanic areas are something that Dr Cruz talks a lot about in terms of very potent environment for healing.

Speaker 1: 1:13:54

So fascinated to hear that personal story of yours in terms of your subjective feeling when you're in that volcanic area. But you're really painting quite an enticing picture and I think, for people again, if they're understanding or having a identifying or feeling this message that we're discussing in this podcast, it's the environment. The environment is this key determinant of your health or your disease, and somewhere like Nicaragua could be a great place to renovate your melanin and to get the train back on the track, so to speak. So thanks for the conversation, Ryan. It's been a very interesting discussion. Where can people find you and potentially consult employer services if they're interested?

Speaker 2: 1:14:48

So best place is my website, which is levitecom, or on social media channels, levite or Levite UK on ex-Twitter. Again, I've actually launched a sort of company as well in the UK called Oath Foods, which again is talking about what is basically bringing in the uk. Called o foods, which again is talking about what she's basically bringing in the organs into sort of food products such as burgers and sausages, and that was actually inspired via, again, kids, children, incorporating in organ meats in their typical food that they'll be consuming with the burgers and sausages. Um, so, again that that's just launched, that's O Foods. But again, if you want to contact me directly about clinical services, that's levitecom and you could be anywhere in the world.

Speaker 1: 1:15:33

Great. Well, yeah, I'll include all that information in the show notes. So thanks, Ryan, and enjoy another day in paradise. Thank you.