What happens when you take a nostalgic trip down the lane of heart-wrenching college football moments? You get an episode filled with a flood of memories and a dash of good old debate. Joined by our special guest, Alex Roombruvva and Harry, both Florida State graduate and Alex a dedicated Dolphins fan, we take you through some of the most heartbreaking games that he still feels in the pit of his stomach.
Ever wondered how the tiniest of decisions can alter the path of an entire football dynasty? Our discussion around the post Dan Marino era for the Dolphins and how the choice between Drew Brees and Dante Culpepper could have dramatically shifted the NFL landscape will leave you pondering. We don't stop at the past though. Have a peek into the future as we look at Florida State's football team, its upcoming season, and toss around some bold predictions. Gear up for some in-depth analysis of the team's schedule and potential upsets on the horizon.
We don't shy away from the big questions either. Drawing from our love for the game, we dive into discussing the future of college football, the potential realignment following Jimbo Fisher's switch from Florida State to Texas A&M, and the brewing broadcasting revenue battles between ESPN and Fox. And for the cherry on top, we share our thoughts on the potential success of quarterbacks like James Winston and their impact on the sport's future. So pull up a chair, football enthusiasts, and get ready for an episode brimming with nostalgia, speculation, and plenty of debate.
What happens when you take a nostalgic trip down the lane of heart-wrenching college football moments? You get an episode filled with a flood of memories and a dash of good old debate. Joined by our special guest, Alex Roombruvva and Harry, both Florida State graduate and Alex a dedicated Dolphins fan, we take you through some of the most heartbreaking games that he still feels in the pit of his stomach.
Ever wondered how the tiniest of decisions can alter the path of an entire football dynasty? Our discussion around the post Dan Marino era for the Dolphins and how the choice between Drew Brees and Dante Culpepper could have dramatically shifted the NFL landscape will leave you pondering. We don't stop at the past though. Have a peek into the future as we look at Florida State's football team, its upcoming season, and toss around some bold predictions. Gear up for some in-depth analysis of the team's schedule and potential upsets on the horizon.
We don't shy away from the big questions either. Drawing from our love for the game, we dive into discussing the future of college football, the potential realignment following Jimbo Fisher's switch from Florida State to Texas A&M, and the brewing broadcasting revenue battles between ESPN and Fox. And for the cherry on top, we share our thoughts on the potential success of quarterbacks like James Winston and their impact on the sport's future. So pull up a chair, football enthusiasts, and get ready for an episode brimming with nostalgia, speculation, and plenty of debate.
Oi, this is Sports Bros with your hosts Chris, Andrew, Rammus, Victor and Corey.
Speaker 2:Enjoy the commentary and all the banter and golden poops 3, 2, 1.
Speaker 3:Hello, to welcome to Sports Bros, episode 30. Today we have a special episode. We have Roombrava Alex and we have Harry day one Arsenal fan. Fresh off the 2022-2023 EPL Championship, come to talk FSU football college football preview. But before we begin, we have to go to. We have to do the most heartbreaking sports moments. We haven't done it for Harry yet. Harry, you're due. The floor is yours.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm a little bit older than you boys. I graduated from Florida State in 1988 and my junior year in 1987, florida State was ranked three, miami was ranked four, miami was two and oh had beaten two teams in the top ten, including Florida. That year Florida State was four and oh game was in Tallahassee. That game actually featured 41 players that would eventually play in the NFL, including Michael Irvin and Dion Sanders. Both teams were just loaded with talent. Jimmy Johnson no, that wasn't Jimmy Johnson, that was the other coach I want to coach Seattle later.
Speaker 2:Erickson, erickson, florida Erickson. No, it was Erickson that was a coach at Miami at the time and Bobby Bowden was coached in Florida State. Of course, florida State's quarterback was Danny McManus. So probably this is before Charlie Ward, before Casey Weldon. So that was actually the first year that Florida State started its run in the top four. So from 87 to 1990, florida State finished in the top four in the final eight people. So they considered that a dynasty, even though during that period they only won two national championships.
Speaker 2:So in that game Florida State went out to a 29 to six lead. Their field goal kicker missed two extra points during the game. In his entire career he was a four year starter. He only missed three extra points. Crowd was going crazy and then all of a sudden Miami's little by little chipped away. Michael Irvin had about four catches for like 180 yards that game. He actually beat Dion Sanders twice, one on one with just a little slant pass and, just freaking out, ran. So Miami took a six point lead I'm sorry, seven point lead. Late in the game Florida State got the ball back with three minutes left. We're going down the field, we get into the red zone, get inside the five yard line, we score a touchdown. Crowd's going crazy, kicking extra point. We tie the game. Bobby Bowden decides nope, we're going for two. We go for two. We didn't get it, we had it down.
Speaker 2:Miami ends up going undefeated, winning the national championship at Florida State finished number two that year, or number two or three, so that that that was like that's before, wide right one and two, because wide right one, I think, was 90 or 91. So this game that I'm talking about was 87. So it's kind of like the beginning of Florida State's dynasty. But it was kind of like the biggest heartbreak because that was, that was the year, you know, my junior year at Florida State.
Speaker 2:The following year Florida State was pre season number one. They went to Miami, played Miami the first game of the year, labor Day weekend. That was the year Florida State did their video, kind of like a almost like a Chicago Bear Super Bowl shuffle. They did a little video and Florida State lost that game 31-nothing in 1988 and Miami went undefeated in Florida State. That was their only loss and Florida State finished number three that year. So that was. You know, that was kind of the beginning of the Miami, where Miami kind of had a strangle on us and, you know, beat us in all these close games and that was like the first one of very many to come. So yeah, thanks for making me say all that, because now I'm really depressed.
Speaker 3:Thanks, Harry. Great way to kick off an episode too.
Speaker 1:Well, luckily Miami's not any good.
Speaker 2:You know what you can do. You can edit now kind of music with tears. You know, maybe a little shy kind of you know some sad kind of music, you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'll put some music back to that for sure. Yeah, all right Room brother.
Speaker 1:Well, harry, to talk about what you're saying, luckily Miami's not any good anymore, so we don't have to worry about them making us upset. We only beat them by 145 points last year, but.
Speaker 2:I digress.
Speaker 1:And another thing I would like to point out is if they had the college football playoff back then, I think it's reasonable to say Florida State would have won at least two more championships.
Speaker 1:I mean all those years, we would lose one game and then you wouldn't be in an F championship If we're in the playoff. I saw a really good article about it that if when you know, after Bobby Bowden passed, somebody posted it that they argued Bowden would probably have between two and four more titles if the playoff existed when he was coaching, because it is true we were like always top five what 14th straight years. So I know we would have been at a playoff at least 12 of those years. So it's pretty wild to think about.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I would say our break wise, I mean you know, they weren't that good when I was in high school and middle school. And then you know all the Gator fans were real obnoxious about 10 people all the time and then you know they started being horrible again. Great to see it, but you know. So I would say for me being a Dolphins fan is a horrible sports moment. I do hate that because they've never been good my entire life. And then Florida State related, I would say when I was in school, the only time we lost to a rival where seven million Florida State Miami was 2012,.
Speaker 1:We lost to a very average best Gator team in Tallahassee and me and my cousin were at that game. That was when I was a student and we definitely blew that game. Each and every one had a couple of turnovers, so that was pretty, pretty bad. Obviously, the Oregon loss was pretty heartbreaking. You know 29 straight wins and then down the cook fumble and multiple times James with that hilarious fallback and just threw the ball up in the air. You know.
Speaker 3:Iconic moment.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, that was a heartbreaking loss as well, but I feel like in my lifetime it's either you know we're really good or we're just like good. I also Willie Taggart was. Those couple years were okay. That's my number one horrible sports moment. Exactly, let me take everything back that I said. The most heartbreaking sports moment was when Florida State hired Willie Taggart.
Speaker 2:So point about it yeah.
Speaker 1:I do miss watching us give up 30 yard plays, the 30 yard passes and then celebrating after giving up a 30 yard pass because they like tackle the guy Good times, or getting not being able to get the correct number of guys on the field for punts and having to get penalties and stuff and then getting the punt blocked. Those are good times.
Speaker 2:Well, that was what Taggart, it was the predictability, you know. I mean the average. The average football fan could see them lining up. They would have three wide receivers on the right and you knew what they were going to do. One receiver was going to take two steps back, catch the ball. The other team knew exactly what they were going to do and they would be a two yard loss. It was second and 12. So many times with Willie Taggart, it was either second and 12 or first and 20, because they would have so many holding penalties, you know. So that was awful.
Speaker 1:Don't forget about the predictability, in the sense that if we score a touchdown, you wouldn't celebrate because you knew that it was coming back for a holding penalty. So the predictability and the really time you're to, it's like oh, I'm not going to celebrate, they might have just scored a touchdown. When it's coming back, there's the flag.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. Now I think we'll all be on this, but I want to want to create on it. What was the turning point post Dan Marino moment for the Dolphins? What's the biggest mistake they made? The post Dan Marino era?
Speaker 1:Oh God, what? Where do we start?
Speaker 5:I mean, oh, I thought I was talking Drew Brees, Dante Colpepper. Are we talking that?
Speaker 2:Yep, yep. When the Buccaneers, when the Dolphins, had the choice of Dante, colpepper and freeze, drew Brees was a free agent and he and he separated his shoulder in a I don't know if it was a playoff game for the Chargers and Corey, you might know this the surgeon was like like this the surgeon made his shoulder even stronger afterwards. He could throw the ball faster and just made him that much better than the Dolphins had the choice they had the first point, drew Brees or, you know, dante goes, the wrong guy. Imagine had the Dolphins goes and drew Brees as a quarterback. What would have happened to the Dolphin franchise?
Speaker 1:Well, that's true, Harry, because if they people forget, Nick Saban was the coach back then. So if they would have picked Drew Brees, it's possible that Nick Saban stays in Miami the Dolphins, and so you have the Dolphins with Brees and Saban versus Belchek and Brady all those years. I mean, it would have completely changed called football and NFL, if they would have actually, you know, made the right choice, which they never do.
Speaker 2:My understanding and you know I'm not a huge Dolphin fan my understanding is that they even wanted Drew Brees, but either the general manager or the owner of the Dolphins overruled them. Is that correct?
Speaker 1:The Dolphins doctors did not okay. Drew Brees' shoulder and they okayed Dante Colpepper's knee.
Speaker 2:His knee. That's right, I'm just going to get to that Drew Brees wanted to go to Miami.
Speaker 1:So you're right in the sense that the Dolphins had the choice. They turned Drew Brees down, then he signed with the Saints. So it's just, yeah, that's an interesting what if as well because, yeah, I mean, saban stays in Miami if they're winning and you know they have he has Drew Brees. The domino.
Speaker 2:Think of the domino effect. Think of the domino effect. Drew Brees goes to Miami.
Speaker 3:You thought of the domino effect.
Speaker 2:Saban's considered Drew Brees. He won. He won in the pro. Alabama never gets Nick Saban. What happens to Alabama? What happens to the SEC? Who's the domino? Who's the domino? Florida?
Speaker 5:runs it. Urban Meyer stays in Florida.
Speaker 4:What happens to the SEC. The SEC would implode, harry, if Nick Saban wasn't at Alabama. The SEC would be the Pac-12 right now.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 5:Corey, it would have been Urban Meyer. Swamp Kings man, Did you watch it? Urban Meyer would have kept that thing going.
Speaker 4:It was.
Speaker 5:Alabama Nick Saban. That ended the Florida run.
Speaker 1:Red Rum, red Rum. We've been hilarious Red Rum. Look it up Red.
Speaker 5:Rum Look it up.
Speaker 4:You're saying there would not be a Patriots' Dynasty if it weren't for the Miami Medical staff.
Speaker 1:Oh, no, there's not. Would have been a Patriots' Dynasty, but I think it would have been. You know, brady and Belchak versus Saban and Breeze all those years, and I mean I still think Brady was obviously the best, so they would have probably still won all those Super Bowls, but maybe the Dolphins went one or two and then there's just actually good, a good division rivalry there. That would be like prime time. Oh, every time they play, you know, but the Dolphins don't make the right decisions. It's like we could take Justin Herbert or we could lose correctly, but Brian Florentis says no, let's win a couple of meaningless games, I don't want to lose to get Joe Burrow. So they would play pointless games, Yep.
Speaker 1:And then he ends up getting fired. So that was completely pointless. And then we don't. We don't have Joe Burrow, he's too busy going to the Super Bowl. And then we get Tua, who literally cannot even fall correctly. He just, anytime he gets pushed he slams his head on the ground. So he's going to be good for a couple of games this year until he gets a concussion. And the Dolphins went seven games. So let's talk about it for a second. Tell them about the Dolphins and send me off. All right, I have a question for you.
Speaker 3:Let's let's kick off the FSU segment. Alex is is FSU back.
Speaker 1:They're fucking back, Chris, you know, I tell you when did this start. All right, me and you at my stats were a party right. The Gators have just lost to Jimbo Fisher. I really hate to see that after Diego was playing the.
Speaker 2:Gator fight song real loudly. Every time they scored the Gators lose.
Speaker 1:That was really tough for me to see, Yep, you know, and then this little guy, Mike Norvell, out there actually yelling at the players. You know, Florida State actually is like putting the correct amount of people on the field and I'm like what the hell is this? They're actually like lining up correctly and not just getting a penalty every play. And then I looked at Chris and I said you know what this Mike Norvell guy fucks?
Speaker 5:There it is.
Speaker 1:Mike Norvell is fucking every cent.
Speaker 2:I'll answer the question this way, Chris. Florida State is back. However they're going to be an elite team, they've got to beat at least. They got to win at least one of those two games against LSU, which is week one, and I think they play Clemson like week three or four. That's a great September.
Speaker 5:That's what's crazy. You guys are going to know if you're competing for a national championship by the end of September, like you're going to know if you're in the national championship All right, so let's set some expectations here.
Speaker 1:Okay, I've been tired with the coaches three years ago. I don't need a national championship to say we're back this year. We're actually fun to watch, they're competitive and all Mike Norvell needed to do People forget his first year was COVID, right, so they can't even see that he couldn't even meet recruits for the first like 18 months of his job, right? So, yeah, remember he gets in. Exactly spring was canceled, so he gets in there. You're taking over for the worst coach in college football history and then you know he just. It was such a rebuild.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you had players that didn't want to be there, so he had to filter them out for two years and I think now he's truly at the point where this is his team. This is no longer Jimbo's leftover. You know rotten Apple players. This is his team. Not only has he done an excellent job in recruiting, but he's even done a much better job in the transfer portal and he's got guys come through the port of that are that are impact players right away, and there's probably about six, seven players that probably could have been drafted in the first three rounds in the NFL draft.
Speaker 2:They all decided to come back and you know I don't. I'm trying to figure out why LSU is a prohibitive favorite in this game. I think the spread now is three and a half and I think ESPN said like there's a chance, a chance that LSU wins this game. You know there are people that are predicting LSU is going to win the national championship. So I like the fact, but I like the fact that we're the underdog in this game, because if FSU wasn't fired up on Sunday for this game, they won't be fired up for any of their stuff.
Speaker 3:What's this spread?
Speaker 2:You know, I think it's three and a half, that's like LSU two and a half.
Speaker 3:Two and a half yeah.
Speaker 2:It started this game. I'm going to depend on that, chris.
Speaker 3:What's that?
Speaker 2:Can Chris give you the spread? They're putting all his money on LSU, so two and a half.
Speaker 3:Where's the game? Again, I forget Orlando, orlando, sorry yeah.
Speaker 2:It's in the, it's in the camp world state. I was actually going to go to Orlando this weekend. The cheapest tickets in the $350 and if you wanted to go in the lower bulls $1,000 hotels are going for $500 in the entire Orlando area. It's kind of you know it's the screw it.
Speaker 3:Harry Disney is booming.
Speaker 5:Well, the start is back, Disney is back.
Speaker 2:Brilliant man.
Speaker 1:As a financial advisor, I can say I like to call your compliance department. Yeah right, that is not any specific advice. We're not allowed to give advice unless we have client meetings and learn about your risk, tolerance and objectives.
Speaker 4:Yes, sir, Cut that part no. I was saying yeah, cut that part up. No, but yeah, Disney stock.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's been been doing great, for sure.
Speaker 3:But what about as your brush Go ahead?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that brand starts. But I would say, chris, all you need to know about it, florida states. Back is Uncle Jeff is literally flying from Tennessee just to watch the game with us at the house. We're not even going to the game. We were going to go to the game but, like Harry said, it's way too expensive. But Jeff's coming to watch it and we're going to be ready to go.
Speaker 1:I would say that, like Harry said, it's all SEC is why LSU is favored. I think that LSU is going to be a tough game. Clemson is going to be a tough game. I mean, realistically, florida State is probably going to win one of the two. I would say, if I had to predict, I think they're going to go 11-1, and they're going to lose that opener. Or they're going to win the opener but lose to Clemson on the road. The ACC this year doesn't have divisions anymore, so they'll play Clemson in the ACC title game and they'll get a chance for a rematch there. But for me, 10-2 or anything better is a great season. If they lose both those games, it's a bummer.
Speaker 1:But they've come a long way and Mike Norell needed to show that hey, I can coach. You didn't see it because COVID and all this. So he had a little catching up to do on recruiting.
Speaker 2:But now you're seeing it they got a top five recruiting class.
Speaker 1:They got a lot of heat on the trail. If they follow that up with a really good season, they're going to be competitive again and they're fun to watch again. And they're not Alabama, nobody is. They're not Georgia, but they're going to be in that top 10 range in the future, maybe win a title or two if they get a really good quarterback which the kid they got coming in for the 2024 class is a stud. So they could win a title with Luke Gromenoff for sure. But this year I'd be stunned.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I wish it was an 18 playoff this year. I think next year it starts an 18 playoff 12, 12, 12.
Speaker 5:Harry knows both. It's going to be a 12 team playoff next year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so, yeah, that's right 12. So that would almost guarantee Florida State being the playoff, but with there being only four teams this year, oh if damn.
Speaker 3:A Harry guaranteed again Guaranteeing the top 12. Harry can you run that back, Harry? Run that back real quick.
Speaker 1:Oh, I guarantee that too. They would make a 12 team playoff this year If.
Speaker 2:Florida State. Let's listen, damn it, listen to me. If Florida State, if Florida State beats LSU, I think that almost guarantees they'll be a playoff too.
Speaker 4:Well, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think they beat LSU, Disrespect the Clemson. If they beat LSU, they lose the Clemson and then they'll have an opportunity to play Clemson a second time, like Alex said.
Speaker 4:Guys, if Vanderbilt wins the SEC, they're in the college football playoff.
Speaker 1:That's a gayer fan Corey, I can understand you're concerned about Vanderbilt. I'll never forget that Anthony Richardson was drafted in the first round this year and I'll never forget when he threw that Hail Mary against Vanderbilt and it went 30 seats in the stands, I was speed, overthrew the end zone by 50 fucking yards and this guy gets drafted in the first round.
Speaker 2:On a Hail.
Speaker 1:Mary to win the game. I just can't do it. He is the total go-to Wow look at the strong arm he has.
Speaker 2:Look how far he threw the ball, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm I know NFL scouts are like damn look at that arm Overthrowing the end zone by 30 rows.
Speaker 4:I need that guy, Need that guy on my team. I think we wore orange. I could be wrong, but I think we wore orange against Vandy last year and now we're not wearing orange at all this year. Orange like tops, I mean Just kind of funny. First time we haven't worn orange since Urban Meyer.
Speaker 3:Where's the FSU Gator game? This year it's in Gainesville.
Speaker 2:That game's in Tallahassee. No, no, that game's in Gainesville.
Speaker 4:Yeah, all right.
Speaker 5:We're playing. I got the schedule blown up, Larry.
Speaker 4:I'm looking at it, he knows ball.
Speaker 1:It's in Gainesville.
Speaker 2:Trap game Because we played by Trap Game. Tallahassee this year Does anybody know what the Trap?
Speaker 5:Game is FSU. They play at Pitt the week before Miami.
Speaker 2:They have two back-to-back games.
Speaker 5:They're at Wake at Pitt. I'm calling it right now November 4th, circle it. That's your Trap Game at Pitt.
Speaker 1:If we if I agree with you, if we lose a game, it's not LSU or Clemson, I think it's going to be that Trap Game. That's our third toughest game on this game.
Speaker 3:Florida, I'd like that for sure. Watch out for that Florida.
Speaker 1:But you know, bobby Bowden said he did say and this is a really good way to look at it that a true rebuild, which is kind of what Florida State has done, is first you lose big, second you lose small, and then you win small, you win close, and then the fourth stage is you win big, and last year we won close, and then this year, I think we're going to, we're going to finally get back to beating ACC teams by multiple touchdowns. That we should beat by multiple touchdowns. We're not going to be losing to Georgia Tech. Oh, no man danger?
Speaker 1:Oh no.
Speaker 5:I'm just doing it. You play Georgia Tech. Okay, Georgia Tech's not on the schedule, so let's not worry about Georgia Tech now.
Speaker 1:You guys might make the ACC a chance game Maybe we'll see you there, no chance.
Speaker 4:There's no chance, andrew. Andrew, can you? Can you rattle off the FSU schedule real quick?
Speaker 5:Yeah, so you guys LSU right, then you got Southern Miss at home cupcake, then you go to BC.
Speaker 1:I think I'll win that one yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah. Then you go to BC, then you go Clemson. So not only is Clemson a road game, it's a double, it's a back-to-back road game. And you're only four weeks into the season. You got two top 10 opponents, but then after that you got Virginia Tech, syracuse Duke at home. You should run through those three. Then you go to Wakin' Pitt. That's why I think Pitt's your trap game. It's the back-to-back on the road trip. Then you come back. You're playing Miami at home, northern Alabama, and then Florida at Florida.
Speaker 1:It's there. I mean if you could survive.
Speaker 5:September. If you could survive September, you're in the clear because you got a three-game homestand right after that. So you're back and you're ready to go for the final stretch. But you got to get through September with one loss.
Speaker 1:If they somehow beat LSU and Clemson, I'll be amazed, but they're often running at that point. I think they're going to go three and one in those first four games and then, like you said, they could win out. If they play how they should, they should win out. They end that cupcake at Florida. That'll be really easy game. They can call me in to play quarterback. That game will win and then, what do you think, Eric? You want to go play that game. I'm sure they'll be getting all the walk-ons to play that week.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Corey, you want to go through.
Speaker 5:Florida schedule. Real quick, we can go through Florida schedule.
Speaker 3:Yeah, let's read off Florida schedule.
Speaker 5:Okay, Corey, give me the win-loss on this one. We go to Utah Thursday night.
Speaker 4:We're starting out one-in-one. We're starting out one-in-one, okay, okay.
Speaker 5:You're taking the win there. Okay, you got Tennessee coming to Gainesville week three, Then you got Charlotte at home and then you come up here to Kentucky.
Speaker 2:Two and three.
Speaker 5:That's two and three, right. Then you got Vandy at home, then Edsworth, carolina, three and four. Then you got Georgia. That's a loss. Three and five Arkansas at home, let's call that a win. Okay. Then you got LSU and Missouri on the road.
Speaker 2:So four and six, probably four and seven. I don't know much about Missouri.
Speaker 4:We're calling.
Speaker 2:Arkansas a win.
Speaker 4:Oh thanks, harry. Yeah, you're welcome.
Speaker 5:That's a win. It's a win in Florida State at home. It's a good win.
Speaker 4:So Utah.
Speaker 5:Tennessee, kentucky, south Carolina, georgia, lsu, missouri. Arkansas, I don't know that's at least six losses right there, corey. Yeah, are we going to a bowl game? Is Florida going to go to a bowl game? Nope.
Speaker 4:So let's say Harry, please, please, mute yourself. Harry. Let's say we're rolling into Georgia on October 28th. Five and two, five and two. Graham Mertz has 20 touchdowns, 25 touchdowns. He's sitting top 15 in Heisman voting. Stay with me. Close game to Georgia Real three yards in a cloud of dust all night. Harry said we won at Arkansas, so I'm just going to keep going there. That's a W? W, yeah. So what is that?
Speaker 5:Six and three Now you go to LSU Six and four.
Speaker 4:And then we're going to go to Missouri.
Speaker 3:seven and four I feel like they only missed.
Speaker 4:Missouri Playing well, and then Florida stayed at home, at home in the swamp. I love the sport.
Speaker 3:Harry setting up Florida State. I love that upset.
Speaker 5:So you're saying best case scenario we're seven and five.
Speaker 4:You know it's a young team. Yep, yep. The worst part about this game is that it's at the end of the year for Florida State fans. Who's to say we're not two times, three times, as good as we were in the beginning of the season? Who's to say?
Speaker 3:Ooh, I mean, we might not be saying that, but who's to say?
Speaker 4:Harry FSU is getting so fat and lazy just eating up mid tier ACC teams all year.
Speaker 2:The only thing I'll say is if he, knows Cupcake. If Florida is seven to five and goes to the bowl, that's a very successful year. That would be a good, you know pretty class they had this year and that'll be a building block.
Speaker 4:I mean, if we were in the ACC we'd probably do that easily, but some people play in a real conference.
Speaker 2:All right, okay, speaking of that.
Speaker 4:Good luck at BC. That's going to be a good game.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about Georgia schedule. Somebody read off the Georgia schedule. Go through Georgia. We're just going 12-0, man. We only have a look at that schedule. They're going 12-0. Automatically drive five spots in the polls for having such a garbage schedule. That is the most ridiculously easy schedule and you're supposed to be playing the schedule like that. Somebody read it off.
Speaker 5:Not only that, harry, they don't even have a road game till October, september 30th. What is it Is their first road game of the season.
Speaker 4:Kirby knows what he's doing. He knows what he's doing.
Speaker 5:Yeah, they're going to be number one all the way through the season, for sure.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, the Indog Nation travels, so there'll be home games everywhere All right, so I can only stay out for another seven minutes.
Speaker 2:Give me. I want all your guys' predictions for the state LSU.
Speaker 3:Start with Are we doing the spread or straight up?
Speaker 2:Straight up. I want scores. One minute for the final score.
Speaker 3:LSU 31,. Fsu 17. Wow.
Speaker 5:That'd be, disappointing. I'm going to go LSU 31, fsu 30. Oh, another one point game like last year. See, that's the thing, harry. I want to pick you guys, but I can't. It's hard to say you're going to be LSU back-to-back years, like you've got to play last year, last two, I really do.
Speaker 3:Just doubt them.
Speaker 5:I think LSU wins, I think they cover, I think they win by a touch of a hand. I think it's like 35-28.
Speaker 2:I'm going to say Florida State 33, LSU 24.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 5:Okay, it's a decisive win.
Speaker 4:A lot of field goals on that end. Huh yeah, Gee Harry has no faith in the LSU Tigers defense.
Speaker 2:I have more faith in our offense and our quarterback running back wide receiver. This is going to be a tough matchup. Plus, you guys have to mention there's a certain player for LSU that got suspended and is not playing. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Huge loss up the middle.
Speaker 2:Joe Burroughs Big loss. So I don't know what he did, but he was a bad boy because they suspended him for this game. They didn't suspend him for the week too. Mcneese State came. So yeah, he was signing autographs.
Speaker 5:This was back in 2021, before NIO was. It was only one month before NIO was even official. He was signing autographs, so they tried to appeal to get him grandfathered in and they lost the appeal. Then LSU tried to schedule an opponent for week zero because it's a one game suspension. They tried to schedule somebody so he could play against FSU.
Speaker 1:There you go, I'm back, and that's how Florida State's back is that LSU tried to schedule a game just so a defensive tackle to play against us. I mean I think we're good, but I don't think we're that good. I mean that's a lot of work.
Speaker 2:Alex. What's your prediction, alex, for the score.
Speaker 1:Sorry about that. Yeah, I lost Wi-Fi for Florida State LSU. Yes, sir man, that's a tough one. I am going to say 34-31 Florida State.
Speaker 3:Oh.
Speaker 2:I like that sound. That sounds like a very entertaining. That score sounds very entertaining for the neutral fan.
Speaker 1:And I think the game unless something happens like one team just comes out and plays horribly, you know, fumbling all over the place I think that's the way the game will be. It'll be competitive, It'll be fun. We got two athletic teams, good offenses. I trust our offense. I think we have a top five offense in the whole country. I do not trust the defense. I don't know about you, Harry, I'm a lot more skeptical about the defense, but I think there are good defense. It's just not great.
Speaker 2:I was saying earlier that I think FSU has the best quarterback, running back, wide receiver combo, no-transcript the skilled players on offense. I don't see any school that can match that. But yeah, the defense is the. If the defense can step it up, we're going to have a hell of a year. But I think our office is going to have to score a lot of points if we're going to be a playoff team at the end of the year. I think we're going to have to score 30, 35 points a game, especially in those. You know the three big games that they're playing the LSU and, assuming, Clemson twice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then even.
Speaker 2:All right guys.
Speaker 4:Bye, Harry, Bye guys.
Speaker 1:Bye Harry, bye what, yeah. So what did I miss?
Speaker 3:We just gave a score predictions. We all picked LSU you guys picked LSU.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's right, sir. Yes, sorry, my just talking about the 2023 Florida Gator football team completely crashed my phone, so oh, oh.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh, oh Woo.
Speaker 5:Had to restart. Oh my God, Well, Corey hasn't going seven and five, so yeah, maybe if they stay fully healthy.
Speaker 4:Eight and four.
Speaker 1:If they stay fully healthy. If you know, gator fans do say that Billy and appear as he's the next Nick Saban walking, but better. So if that comes to fruition then, yeah, they might be able to squeeze out seven wins. Maybe they'll beat Vanderbilt this year. That's going to be a real tough game but you know, I have faith that Bill Hill, billy, willie and the boys are going to be able to do it. Yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm just messing with you, corey, bill, bill me okay, they're in a better shape than Miami, I think Okay.
Speaker 5:Corey, it's not a good sign when your coach comes out the week of the first game and says you're going to experience and expect growing pains.
Speaker 4:Growing pains.
Speaker 5:Young players this year.
Speaker 1:Andrew, they have, they have.
Speaker 5:Hey.
Speaker 3:Alex.
Speaker 1:They're going to be great. I don't know if you thought about it. Great yeah.
Speaker 5:One more five star Wisconsin. Yeah, dude, I mean, they're loaded yeah.
Speaker 4:But it's a it'll be a good season.
Speaker 3:Alex, we should, we should get Diego on Talk some Gator football.
Speaker 1:Oh he's, he's a realist at least, but yeah, he's a. He'll definitely for my, not the best when they were blaring the fight song. I don't know if you've told Andrew and Corey this, but for my stature party, no, they were watching the. My bachelor party they were watching, which I didn't care that they're watching the Gator game Like I was watching it. We were having a good time just hanging out. It's dark, covid, so we had like a Airbnb and with a pool and stuff, so we're just watching football. But they kept blaring the Gator fight song Every time the Gators would score and they were doing the of, not like the, you know, which is fine, but they're having fun Like I wasn't like messing with them too much, but and then, jimbo, they were playing A&M and then Jimbo ended up winning at the last second.
Speaker 1:And then Chris come. Chris has a great video of him coming up to me and I'm like reaching in the fridge for a beer and he goes sober and bro, what do you think of the game? And I just look back at them and say you hate to see it.
Speaker 3:He did actually go there. How do you feel about the game so far? Right now, I hate to see it.
Speaker 1:I'm like oh yeah, it's some great videos Cause they went from like a hundred to like they were zero. Dude, weren't they? Were they not just sitting there like cause, that was that year with them more than they were supposed to be. They were supposed to be really good that year and then they choked a couple of games away, which I still think Dan Mullen. I'm not upset that Gators got rid of him. I'll tell you that right now. Dude was really good at kicking our ass, so not upset to see him walk out the door.
Speaker 4:I feel like Florida kind of hates Dan Mullen now.
Speaker 5:That must have been 2020. Do you guys?
Speaker 1:edit this stuff.
Speaker 5:It. Chris does Okay.
Speaker 1:Maybe, maybe, chris, your financial compliance, maybe edit my financial advice if that's not allowed out and edit this out about me talking about editing it out.
Speaker 3:I'll edit it out, but leave that part in. Yeah, the request to edit it out.
Speaker 1:Good stuff. Yeah, If you guys need any financial advice, hit me up. Love to talk to you. What the no? It's Disney.
Speaker 4:Just do a voiceover during the time that Alex said that and said and say this is me deleting, alex saying to not buy this stuff. So consider this, consider this him not saying that it's what.
Speaker 1:Dave Portnoy always says like buy pen stock, I'm not a financial advisor or whatever. Yeah, good stuff, alex.
Speaker 4:what is your? What's your?
Speaker 3:final four College football playoff. What's your prediction?
Speaker 1:Number one is going to be Florida State University. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I could see Florida State. If Florida State goes 11 and one and they lose the you know Clemson like, my projection is, I could see them losing both and finishing like 10 and two or something. But let's say they stay pretty healthy. You know they. I think they beat L2 that first game. They lose to Clemson and then they beat Clemson and they see that again they'll be like the fourth or third team. But so I'm going to be Homer, I'm going to say Florida State's number three at four, and then I'll do Georgia one, two, ohio State and then four Bama, because they got to get that Second SCP team in there. Damn no Michigan.
Speaker 3:No, isn't like Harbaugh not even coaching.
Speaker 1:a couple of games, yeah but they have a cupcake first month.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I guess they could, they could do it but I I don't know.
Speaker 1:Ohio State will probably beat them this year. Yeah, it's going to come down to the last three weeks for them.
Speaker 5:They got to go to Penn State and then Maryland, then Ohio State or Michigan, yeah, and then Penn State's going to be good, they will be good.
Speaker 1:They got to be careful when they're in the locker rooms there. But they'll be. They'll be a good team. Tough place to play, you know, but yeah, and then USC, usc can actually play a lick of defense. They, they can tend for it, but they'll be top 10 team. But they gave up what 30 something points to San Nobody knows state the other day.
Speaker 5:You're right. Yeah, I was. I was buying USC stock, but now I'm like I don't know, I don't believe. I mean I'm buying their stock in a sense that they'll be a top 10 team.
Speaker 1:But, like you're saying, if the defense, like they're good enough to where they'll beat the teams they should be, but they play a team, a good team, they're not going to win. Like Florida State would probably score 50 points on them. At least you know and we're not even like the best team in the country.
Speaker 5:The back half of USC schedule. They got to go to Notre Dame, then they got Utah Cal but who cares then Washington at Oregon. So they have a really tough stretch at the end of the season to get through. I don't see USC, usc making it through that unscathed. I actually like no. I think Navy was bad, but I thought Notre Dame looked great at first game. Yeah, like Sam Hartman was slinging it.
Speaker 1:He's really good man. I'm definitely not upset that they didn't set a UF.
Speaker 5:Yeah, which that's what it's going to help you guys out because they play Clemson.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's true, that won't count towards the ACP though unfortunately.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but no, that's an extra loss for Clemson at the end of the year.
Speaker 1:And I mean realistically, like unless something catastrophic happens. The ACC is not that strong outside of Clemson and Florida State this year. So they should both be in the ACC championship game, you'd think. Because even if we do lose to LSU and them, you know LSU is not a conference game, so that would still put us in the conference championship.
Speaker 3:Yeah. What are the expectations of the Miami Hurricanes?
Speaker 5:Are they supposed to be? Don't lose to Middle Tennessee this year. How about that?
Speaker 1:They didn't just lose, they did, they give up like 45 points and like 380.
Speaker 5:At home, at home.
Speaker 1:And they just kept giving up. All dude they were letting that guy, that quarterback, through like five, 70 or passes and seems like it's like every other place on a bomb.
Speaker 5:Have you all seen the the shit that Miami Ohio is talking to my like, so that it's Miami Ohio versus Miami. We can run in. Miami Ohio keeps talking shit like we're going to show them who the real Miami is. How hilarious would it be. Miami Ohio goes down there. It's a hurricane's week one. You're talking all that shit. It'd be so fun.
Speaker 1:I would, I would love that, andrew, that'd be phenomenal. Yeah, that's been Ross's burgers. You know school, that's where he played ball. So yeah, I got. I got the strong fight in Miami of Ohio's when in that first game against the the you, the has been, you know yeah but, now Miami will be. They should be better, but they're probably a 7-1 team, you know.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah, they got to play Texas. And then week two, they got to go to North Carolina, they got Clemson and they got to go to four states. Speaking of Texas, they win those.
Speaker 1:What do you guys think about Jimbo Fisher man?
Speaker 5:He's got to do it this year. Man Like they are there, imagine if they go like seven and five again and they have to figure out how they're going to buy him out. It's like 75 million dollars, I am.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. I hate to see that, andrew. I definitely hate to see that. Oh yeah.
Speaker 5:I mean, I don't blame him for leaving.
Speaker 1:but to me, like Andrew, you know, you guys know I'm like I'm joking around, like towards the Florida State is back to being a good football team again. But I'm mostly a realist and, like I remember, when he first left, people were Some people were like well, texas and ends a better program. And I'm like what I mean they?
Speaker 2:have more money, but they haven't won anything of significance since only white people could play football, so it doesn't count.
Speaker 1:What 1930? I mean, yeah, they're. They're a good program. They have a lot of money. But Florida State is a better program. I don't think there's any data about it.
Speaker 2:Florida is a better program.
Speaker 1:I mean Texas A&M is a above average program that just happens to have a bunch of rich oil guys that fund the program. And you're seeing it, People thought Jimbo go there and be winning titles left and right and they went five and seven last year with, like another one recruiting class. And they like the best recruiting class of all time and they went five and seven, you know so.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And that the people forget that the culture in Florida State was horrible. His last couple of years he really. I had some buddies in the football program and he really kind of started letting things, letting things slide, and that's how I built. I bought in on Mike Norbell because I know people in the program that are realist and that we're saying Willie's a disaster behind his scenes. But they were saying, listen, give Mike some time. This guy it shows, he's organized, he's methodical, he's smart, he's a great coach. If he gets the Florida State, allows him to rebuild this thing right, it'll show. And I'm not saying we're not winning championships every year, but he's got it, he built it right. We went through the growing pains and it's a good football program again at least, which for a little bit there it seems like they were going to be unlawful forever.
Speaker 5:Right. Well, Alex, let me get your take on this. What do you think about this whole realignment and stuff? Where do you want Florida State to be in this whole realignment?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's interesting, for sure, I think anyone that kind of knows and understands the inner workings of college football, like people that are way smarter than me that I listen to on like two, four, seven podcasts and stuff like that. Like Bud Elliott have been saying that this is coming for years and it would just slowly show like USC and then Texas, oklahoma. Obviously we're the first big real domino, but you know it's going to be interesting for college football.
Speaker 1:I think that college football is going to kind of become more of a minor league NFL team kind of feeder league. I hope that they still focus on the school part of it, though, because that's what makes it so much more fun. It's because you're rooting for Georgia Tech. You went there, you're passionate about it. You were at the games, you went, you lived on campus. You're going to be able to take your kids there and say this is where your dad got stupidly drunk one night, or this is where my this was my favorite spot to eat. You know and there's to me, that's what makes it so much better than the NFL we're saying the walkoff yeah exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're a brand new bio. Yeah yeah, good times. That was a great game. Good times, that was like our first ACC loss in like five years.
Speaker 5:I was hoping that was going to be your heartbreaking moment. I was like going to chime in with like that was one of my favorite. Yeah, I should have brought that up for you.
Speaker 1:I remember it, dude. I don't even think they had touched the end zone yet before you had messaged me about that. No, that wasn't.
Speaker 5:We sucked so bad that it's like I'm a college football fan.
Speaker 1:So like, obviously, like I hate UF, right, and like Miami I kind of hate, I guess, but like, other than that, it's like I look back at that. I'm like what a cool moment for Georgia Tech fans. Like because I get it like we've upset teams, we've been bad the last couple of years, so like anytime we pull off an upset, like that LSU game last year was awesome because it's like showing the national audience like hey, florida State, florida State, and we're back to being able to win games like this. You know, and it was cool seeing. I mean that was an awesome moment, especially being at Georgia Tech. I'm, I'm guaranteed I see that being like one of your favorite moments, because that was a really cool moment. And Roberto, why, dude? I mean people forget when I was at.
Speaker 1:Florida.
Speaker 1:State it could be like a game winning field goal and I could be like, cool, I'll go take a go get a beer and go to the bathroom real quick, because he didn't just make every kick, it was like dead knots down the middle. Every single time he kicked, I mean it was a guaranteed made field goal. And then he gets the NFL, he gets boot in the preseason and then he can't make a field goal. Save his life. It's crazy. Well, that's why the books draft them in the second round man, you gotta get that value.
Speaker 5:Well, hey, sebastian Janikowski, what's up In the first?
Speaker 1:round another Florida State guy and he's probably the best pick the Raiders have made in years, cause he was their kicker for what you know, he's like the one guy. But uh, yeah, it's uh. Back to the sorry, I digress there a little bit.
Speaker 1:Um, I would like them to be in the SEC, obviously, cause, yeah, everything's, you know all the teams are closer. I feel like Florida State is an SEC program. I think it's a great opportunity to be in the SEC. I think it's a great opportunity to be in the SEC. Florida State is an SEC program without being in the SEC. Right, I mean they have the, the tradition, they have the facilities. You know the name. I mean the name sells.
Speaker 1:I saw, you know, our Florida State's been very vocal about wanting to get out of the ACC. So our AD has been pointing out all these stats and I didn't even realize it. But these last couple of years, with how horrible we've been, we've still been like the most watched, even like more watched than Clemson. So if Florida State's on prime time, like people are watching I, I don't get it. I assume it's cause a lot. You know, we were so good for so long in the 80s and 90s that my Kirk Herbsley will say on college game day like he wants Florida State to be good cause to him. It's like this is the program that should be competitive every year, cause that's how it was when I was watching football, you know, and as a college football fan, I don't I joke around, but I want Florida to be good, right, I want those to be good games again. You know I don't want all the good recruits going to Georgia and Alabama. You know I I'd like for I like for the premier college football teams to be fun to watch, but I think they're probably going to end up in the big 10. If I had to guess, I think they prefer the SEC, though I think it makes more sense for the big 10 cause then the big 10 would be nationally, a national brand, right, they'd have USC and I would want the big 10, except for USC coming in as cool, because you know I've been to that stadium before and that's a really cool stadium to watch games. So if I got a couple of places that I can maybe take the occasional road game to, that, that'd be a cool road game to go to Um and you know, for the big 10, it makes a lot of sense and shoot, florida State's gotten so good academically now that they you know they're not AU or whatever it's called, but that they could probably be that soon. I mean they're a top 20 public university now I don't even think I'd get in nowadays, you know, yeah, yeah. So I could see it either way. I'd be happy with either. They just got to get out of the ACC.
Speaker 1:I think them and Clemson are a package deal, though Clemson's kind of sitting behind and this is what people that understand right, like I'm not in, I don't have the know, the knowledge, or like the people behind the scenes anymore. But the people that have people behind the scenes tell you that Clemson's like right behind us going yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, perfect. So they're like, but they're kind of like the silent business partner. You know, I guess Florida State just came out and was like we're going to just kind of start bitching about this until something happens. Yeah, yeah, they're pretty Dude. Our president, who like came from Harvard, he was like Harvard's like assistant president or something. He was straight up on that call like yeah, this is not going to work and we need to get out of here. And I mean for the president of the university to say that's pretty extreme. So I don't think you say that and you stay in the conference, right.
Speaker 1:I think ACC is being smart, though by adding Stanford and who, who, who else is it they're trying to add?
Speaker 1:There's like two other themes Cal on SMU, because I think what the ACC should do, because there's some good programs in the ACC, they're just not elite, right, like Wakes, a good program, you know, there's good football programs, they just don't have the money.
Speaker 1:I do think that they could become like that net, still be powered by, but be that like third, third biggest conference Now that the Pac-12 is dissolved, right, you can kind of tell it's gonna be the ACC and the big 12 kind of fighting for that Like who's the next level, right, if they add like a Stanford or something like they'll be an attractive conference. Still, I do think that UNC is in a very attractive program. They're gonna go to the big 10 or the SEC. I can see Georgia Tech as well, virginia Tech, virginia, but like the Boston colleges, the Wake forces and stuff, those are good football programs but they don't have the money to compete in today's college football landscape. So I think they're better staying in the ACC, you know, and the ACC still being a good conference, but not the best We'll see. I mean, I find the gas big 10, but I'd prefer SEC. What do you guys think?
Speaker 3:When would real quick? When would FSU make that move Next year?
Speaker 5:So they're right this season now I mean it's too late for this, I mean we're past this season, but it's all for next year, Cause pretty much trying to get reposition for next football season. So it could be the spring.
Speaker 1:And one interesting thing is everybody's saying that as well, that it's next year. An interesting point that a couple you know sports writers made was that Paul Feinbaum, who is total SEC homer but is about as locked in with the SEC as anybody, so he knows what's going on the end workings of that conference. He was saying like a month or two ago like Florida State's not as attractive as they think they are. And then I don't know if you heard his interview like two weeks ago he was like that's one of the most attractive brands in college football and the SEC definitely wants them.
Speaker 1:And he's not saying that unless somebody told him like na na na na na like we're very interested.
Speaker 5:Well, here's the thing the SEC doesn't want the big 10 in their backyard, they don't want them in the South, they don't want them to come to Florida and take that market and you guys are more valuable than Miami cause Miami came and figured it out and they want to stadium, and having FSU blocks the big 10 from coming down to the South. I think that's what's most important, for the SEC is trying to keep that landscape, and that's a perfect point.
Speaker 1:And even more than that, like you're completely correct. Even more than that we're talking we're not just talking to conference, we're talking major broadcasting networks. This is really a battle between ESPN and Fox, and the really interesting thing that I've seen and heard is that ACC ESPN has the right, cac ESPN has the right.
Speaker 1:CAC as well, and from what I'm hearing, espn was freaking out at the thought of Florida State and Clemson going to Fox, which is big 10, right, it's Fox, and I think CBS has some of their games too. Espn does not want to lose Florida State and Clemson. That's a lot of broadcasting revenue that they've lose, and really what I've kind of seen is that that's really the main battle here and that a potential out for Florida State might be. Hey, if we stay in the ESPN umbrella and go to the SEC.
Speaker 2:Are you gonna kind of get?
Speaker 1:rid of some of these BS, exit BS the ACC has, or else, if not, we're going, we're flipping over, we're going big 10, we're going Fox, and I think that's why they were letting those rumors come out, because Florida State would prefer being the SEC. I think for sure.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah. I think another underlying thing that's in play here is ESPN is looking for a buyer, so they want to sell to somebody and Apple, I think it's Amazon and Amazon's come to the forefront now as a potential buyer of ESPN, which is another piece of the puzzle, that now this reshuffling can really begin the TV contracts until ESPN kind of sorts out what's at the top level here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely. I mean we're talking like big, big time money being involved and it's not as simple as a couple of fans sitting around being like, hey, the SEC doesn't want Florida State because they already have Florida. No, we're talking millions and millions and hundreds of millions of dollars here and lost revenue.
Speaker 1:And that's what really matters to these people and that's what's gonna make the decision. Do they let all the money that Florida State and Clemson generate, which in Florida State, just being good again, is showing, hey, we've been down but we're getting back up and we still generate that revenue? And I mean I think them and Clemson are really comparable, they're similar programs and they're just like you said, they're just Southern programs. So I think they're perfect. If the SEC wants to expand, I think they have no choice. I think UNC and stuff would be a better fit for the Big 10, but SEC-wise I mean they'd be smart, I think, to get Florida State and Clemson. And then there are no doubt the number one conference. If the Big 10 gets Florida State and Clemson, I would still give the SEC the edge, but by how much? Because people forget the SEC's got some stinkers in that conference too. I mean they got Vanderbilt, they got Florida. You know there's some bad teams in that conference.
Speaker 5:They got Florida.
Speaker 1:That was for you.
Speaker 5:Corey. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy man. That's what this. I think COVID really accelerated all this, but you also had the streaming wars. You had all these other people trying to come up with this platforms to rival Netflix, and then now we have writer strikes because no one can pay everybody because of all this money that got poured into streaming. But what actually makes money is sports live TV. That's what draws viewership. That's what gets people to sign up for subscription services, to pay to watch, and that's why all this money is on media rights and going to the universities and they have the power. The conferences have the power.
Speaker 1:It's the name of the game now and you're also factoring in. I mean, you think about sports betting, right? The more that keeps state by state by state legalizing it. That's another reason for people to watch. Cause you might not want to watch a random US or not USC, that's a good program. But random pack 12 teams, right, you might not care about watching.
Speaker 4:Rutgers, Maryland.
Speaker 1:Correct, dj, but maybe you got a parlay right and you got some good money riding on. If Oregon ends up scoring that garbage time touchdown against Oregon state right, that's going to give you a reason to watch and I think that definitely has increased the broadcasting revenues Cause just like fantasy football has for the NFL for years you know the football makes people watch the NFL more than they otherwise would if fantasy football didn't exist. And gambling is the same thing.
Speaker 4:Red zone would be slashed if it weren't for fantasy football.
Speaker 5:Red zone was perfect for fantasy football. No, exactly, yep, yep. And just like yo, alex, what you're saying these media packages are they're going to be tailored for. I mean, everyone's kind of shifting to the betting format here and putting that before like that's what is going to sell sports and that's what's going to get people to watch.
Speaker 1:Yep, absolutely, and that, like, like we're saying, that's the name of the game. Now the game's changed a little bit, but you know it's yeah. I think that it's it's. It's a big brand and Clemson's a big brand. Miami is a big brand as well. They're going to go to one of the two big conferences, and I just think that it's not as simple as an SEC bias fan being like, oh, they don't need Florida State. I mean, that's a lot of money walking out the door to a competitor.
Speaker 1:So you can say where the state's been down the last couple of years. All you want, but it don't matter. People still they put asses in the seats, and so does Clemson Dude, if the I've never said that before.
Speaker 5:If the big 10, right. If the big 10 came down and got Clemson and Florida State they could have they have now have the arsenal to compete with the SEC and they're recruiting in their own backyard. I mean they don't want that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that and their money. They actually I think their contract pays out more money to the universities than the SEC's TV contract does, so the big 10 would actually be able to pay. Yeah, because they just negotiated, yeah.
Speaker 5:Like.
Speaker 1:Florida State, that's. That was part of the thing, Like, hey, if Florida. State goes into big 10, we're getting more money right and but, like you're saying, I mean that's a big part of it is you know who's going to be who's going to be wanting the contracts? And yeah, it's, yeah, it's definitely it's definitely Did you guys?
Speaker 4:did you guys see that ESPN made a deal with I think it's theater sports network to broadcast games and movie theaters?
Speaker 5:Is that real? Was that I didn't know.
Speaker 3:Really? Yeah, I didn't know if that was really either.
Speaker 1:That's funny. Who the hell's?
Speaker 5:got a movie theater, the one football game.
Speaker 4:I saw ACC, but I don't know if it's just ACC. I think they got games on like CW and stuff now. Yeah, Dude, it's bad man Like they come on right before live golf starts.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and one tree of hell.
Speaker 5:Yeah, now everybody was ripping the ACC today because they just opened their headquarters in Charlotte and they were raising all the flags of all the universities and people are like what are you even doing that for? Like you're going to be taking that down. I mean, that's going to be up there for like six months. You're going to have to take the flag down when those people leave.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a yeah, like you're saying, I mean you don't come out and bash the conference like Florida State as an end state, right, I mean that's like. That's like trashing your girlfriend, letting her write on social media, on Facebook, just talking about how she's like the worst girl ever. And you need to look elsewhere and then you know being married for 20 years is not happening.
Speaker 5:Yeah, alex, I think that I think Florida State really needs to go all in on this and just get the Saudis money, like let's just get the Saudis in, let's buy everything, let's just run ships.
Speaker 1:You know this is this is how you know to answer the question that started this podcast.
Speaker 1:That's how you know Florida State's back is that you're here in crap like that again, I mean and then I don't know if you saw this all over social media but some Miami fan I'm like the Miami message boards were saying that Florida State's cheating because they're getting all this money from some super rich chick. This is, this is actually a post that some super rich Delaware chicken farmer is funding all and paying for all these recruits for statesman landing. So all the florists they got like on social media have been like jokingly tweeting like oh, it's that, it's that chicken farmer money. Baby, we're back.
Speaker 5:Chicken man. Yeah, oh, I mean, my Miami's got that Ruiz guy that's like that life wallet he's, he like, he like this. Have you seen this Ruiz, the guy that like does all their NIO stuff and he like defrauded the health care system with this life fault bullet, bullshit and scammed a bunch of people to get his money?
Speaker 1:Yeah, his stock is trading at like eight cents a share, so not great.
Speaker 5:So it's almost everything that's good.
Speaker 1:Let's look at the recruiting around these man. Miami and nowhere to be found. I mean they're doing. Ok, they're still Miami. People forget that. God, what is it? Probably 50% of the top 250 of recruits come out of Miami. I mean, it's just loaded with talent down there. So Miami is going to Miami can do nothing. We can be the head coaches of Miami and they're going to land a couple guys, you know, but yeah yeah, just point to the beach.
Speaker 1:Do you want to go play in Ohio, dude, or do you want to play in Miami? As a Dolphins fan, that's why, to me, it's an excuse for the dolphins not be any good, because the dolphins can sign whatever free agent they want. Where do you want to go? You want to go play for the Browns or you want to play for the dolphins? I mean, it's a no writer, you know I mean, for me, miami's main problem is they don't have a, they don't have a field and they own a stadium on campus, and that is the difference of a true college atmosphere.
Speaker 2:I know that's what you have stuff to do and watch it.
Speaker 1:The USF will be much more competitive when they get that, that football field on campus. Still, I'm not saying they'll be, you know, when a national championship like UCF, right the total national championship winner program.
Speaker 3:We got to get a man sure on.
Speaker 1:Dude, that was a great. You know them beating that three loss Auburn team. That was a great national championship game Incredible Yep. Yep, yes, you see, they got three lost teams in there determined that as chance it.
Speaker 4:Wait, is USF getting a football field?
Speaker 3:Yes, they're getting a. How far is? How far is Miami's campus from where they play Forty five minutes, or something like?
Speaker 1:that.
Speaker 4:Like get on a bus.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's a smooth 90.
Speaker 4:Hard Rock.
Speaker 5:Stadium is nice, though. I liked hard rock, I mean, I thought it was pretty legit.
Speaker 1:It's really nice they did a.
Speaker 3:yeah, yeah, I had fun there. Bucks one.
Speaker 1:Now the J Color game. That's when Chris was switching out of the Dolphin jersey and that he kept putting the Dolphin jersey on every time the dolphins had scored, and then he'd rip it off, put a buck jersey on it. The people behind us are just like I am.
Speaker 3:Oh man, that was much fun.
Speaker 1:Dude, that was so funny, I forgot it was you. You started with the buck jersey, I think, and then like J Color smoke and J March down the score of TD and then you like rip the buck jersey off and you're like doing fence up with all the dolphins and they're all like they're losing it dude.
Speaker 3:They had no idea what was going on. Bruce the game. That's the game. I had my dress pants and I had a tailgate and dress pants and the dress shirt and I forgot my shorts and I had to go into the game with dress pants on. I forgot about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I forgot you had to wear on the whole time.
Speaker 5:Oh man, chris, you should have done that for that Steelers Titans game when you were in the Titans jersey. When that woman told you to go fuck yourself, you should have switched to a Steelers jersey for what she said. That would have been hilarious. She says, go fuck yourself and you just change it in the Steelers jersey immediately.
Speaker 1:Didn't Amazon lock your account because you kept returning too many items?
Speaker 3:No, never officially. They did message me once. Hey, I saw some returns.
Speaker 1:Is everything going okay. I'm like yeah, yeah, I'm fine, You're returning 90% of your items Steelers lost.
Speaker 4:I don't need this anymore.
Speaker 5:You're the most pin-mike of that ever. I just returned the stuff.
Speaker 3:That was funny.
Speaker 1:Dude good times. How about the Bucks this year? Let's talk about them or your guys' names.
Speaker 3:Hey Kermayfield, hey Kermayfield, we'll be about 500. Yeah, that's the bar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's probably how the Dolphins will be, like 500.
Speaker 4:We do play in the worst division of sports, though that's good.
Speaker 1:Dude the same thing to let J-Boo lose man. You see that speech he gave the other day.
Speaker 4:Yep.
Speaker 1:That's my guy, dude.
Speaker 4:Guy's a baller.
Speaker 1:Listen, you're going to lose.
Speaker 4:Can't tell me he's not a top 32 quarterback.
Speaker 1:Listen, there's nothing more fun than just slinging it. Dude. Whoever catches it, they catch it. I mean he's got to throw 40 touchdowns and 40 picks. I mean it's not going to get more electric than that.
Speaker 4:The LASIK is still setting in. He used to just see blobs of color out. There he's settling.
Speaker 1:Maybe he needs to go back, because he won the championship when he could barely see, so maybe he can see too well now. So he's overthinking things. Before he was just throwing it.
Speaker 4:He's second guessing.
Speaker 1:He was just letting it lose before and just getting lucky.
Speaker 3:Oh, alex, look at the. Can you see Corey's couch?
Speaker 4:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:I think it's just showing Christiane Ronaldo. It looks like.
Speaker 4:Oh, damn what.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I don't, I don't see, I Only see Christian Ronaldo.
Speaker 3:You don't see Corey there we go now.
Speaker 1:I see him nice couch man. Nice, you like the couch? Yeah, dude, do you like?
Speaker 4:pretty sick.
Speaker 1:It was like it. Oh, I love that. It's great couch dude yeah oh yeah you got to get the the automatic man anything not automatic. And it's got a. It's got a cool.
Speaker 4:I know it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Wait is that Alex's?
Speaker 5:couch. Oh yeah, is that the couch from your apartment?
Speaker 3:Yep, yeah.
Speaker 4:It lives on.
Speaker 5:It's an absolute beast, it was the same couch, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's the same one. It made the trip to Fort Myers.
Speaker 1:Chris didn't want it anymore. He was like I just reminded me that room, bro, I didn't want anymore.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I gotta get rid of that. Sometimes I think about Scoob. Hope he's okay with that. Maple maple leaf toy.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's his favorite toy dude. He loves it. My dad's like kind of take it away because he like Runs on the wooden floors with it and it's like we're allowed in the knowing. Oh yeah, yeah, he loves that thing so we were it's a remember.
Speaker 3:We were talking about James just now. Remember when we went to the it was the Falcons game and I can't remember who is there. I think it was Ramos, maybe Victor, and we were very nervous and you're like, dude, he's gonna win, it'll be fine. Do you remember that? Oh yeah, dude.
Speaker 1:And then he like led the through a beautiful touchdown pass. Win the game with like two seconds left.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and we're on the edge of our seats and you're just like leaning back. You're like he's, this is what he does, he's just gonna win it. Just give him a few minutes. He went right down the field, wanted.
Speaker 1:Dude, that is what he used to do, man. He used to be so fun to watch and the best part was is that next year Everyone started hating us so much and Then we'd be down and then my phone would be blown up. Everyone and their mother would be like shit talking and then we'd come back and win by like three touchdowns, you know, and it's just like.
Speaker 1:It's just what this guy does, do. He throws a pick, looks like shit. For the first couple minutes we're down 14, nothing and the next thing you know, they're winning 38, 14,. You know, yeah, he's a, he deserves a shot. I mean, if I'm who did the same tap, who's their backup?
Speaker 4:or or Really did.
Speaker 1:I mean I know I've never understood it I obviously with the bucks it made sense he should get Tom ready, right. But if he just got some old, like average veteran, like why not just give James a shot? I mean he's got the talent. If someone could just get him to maybe not throw 50 interceptions, he'd be crushing.
Speaker 5:Well, he got Lasek, remember you guys?
Speaker 1:ice-fix, and now you can see yeah, I mean he's got all the tools and it's not like he's not Anthony Richardson who, like, is Athletic but doesn't know how to play quarterback right. Barstool's post you know when. Sorry, yet Barstool. Barstool was posted. You know every time, every time like someone got drafted this year and like their post. When Anthony Richardson Got drafted was could be really good if he learns how to play quarterback or if he could.
Speaker 5:Yeah, what's crazy is how high he's going in fantasy. Like people are actually drafting this guy in fantasy. I'm like what, why he's gonna throw like three picks a game. I.
Speaker 4:Yeah, do one for like 60 yards a game. I.
Speaker 1:Mean, he's an athletic, pretty good rushing yards. He just he's so inaccurate dude, I can't, I don't know, I don't see it, but and that's not even me, because I didn't want to be either Christmas dad. But you know, maybe two will be good.
Speaker 4:Be, fair to him, though. Everything coming out of Indy was all good things, though, during camp he had like a 45% completion percentage.
Speaker 1:This precinct I want you talking about.
Speaker 5:I was gonna say courted you, watch the precinct games.
Speaker 1:Me all right. Well, he does that thing where he like throws like this you know I'm talking about he like walks in and tries to slant like this and throws it like five yards behind a guy, right to the linebacker. I don't know why he still does that.
Speaker 5:I was like his second throw in the NFL was the Bills game way through like side arm right to a defender for a pick six.
Speaker 1:He did it in the FSU game. He's just like here you go. It's like all right, cool Dude, you guys are actually moving the ball.
Speaker 5:Yeah no speaking of toa, is it like? Is it this is the year right, like if to a can't like? Yeah, I know, last year was like is he healthy as he not? Is like when he's healthy, you guys were good, but is this like? We got to do it this year or or we're moving on, or you think it's just about the offensive line, the pieces around them?
Speaker 1:So offensive line yes, I'm not hopping on the train because the offensive line still stinks and they're one injury away From. I mean to already gets hurt anytime. Someone like looks at him wrong, you know.
Speaker 5:So it's like he's not gonna well, how about just don't put him in the game when he's concussed? How about let's start with that? Let's just if he could stand up. He's good, but he's wobbled. Let's take him out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, no, I uh, I don't know man, he's just your backup. Mike White, they got.
Speaker 5:Mike White oh he's good.
Speaker 1:He's good usf yeah, he's actually. He got a concussion as well, so it's the backup right now. I'm sorry, thompson, the like he got knocked out last year. Yeah well, he got not. He got a concussion and the preseason, I think it was. But I don't know, man, the dolphins are just Like I can buy in the floor stage because I've seen it you know, but like I can't buy into the dolphins, right, I mean it's like they should have a stretch last year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, on paper they should win 11 games. I would say I feel like that's reasonable and fair to expect. Right, like if I'm an unbiased, not a dolphin span, I would say that seems gonna win 10, 11 games. But the problem is the old line stinks. So if they lose one guy in the old lines are winning seven games and they're gonna lose a guy in the oh line, it's the dolphins. That's what happens. I mean we get general Ramsey, he gets hurt immediately. That is out till December. Right, it's kind of just like their first, I don't know. I mean, they didn't win a Super Bowl with damn. Right now, make it make sense. Yeah, no, is it too?
Speaker 4:on like his fourth year of this rookie contract, so he's only making like a million or two.
Speaker 1:I Think he has One more year on his rookie contract.
Speaker 5:I Think that's why it's next year would be the fifth year option. Right, it's like what Daniel Jones went through this offseason. That's what I'm saying like is this? Right, I gotta make a decision here or is it like we're just all in on to. If he's healthy, we're good, I would say that they're probably in my mind.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's make or break this year, right, I mean, if I'm, if I'm the GM, if he can't say healthy, if, because to me it's that's the problem, right, we've, we've seen that if he's healthy, he's pretty good. Some would argue really really good. I mean he points. Last year he looked amazing, you know man that ravens game last year.
Speaker 5:You're like six touchdowns.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I mean he's shown that he can do it.
Speaker 4:It's just my man is the most accurate, most accurate quarterback in the league, according to Tyree kill.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I mean he is. And I mean, andrew, you were on that zoom where we watched the NFL draft, where we drafted him right and I was like the other person not so bright. In my house we had like 20 people over and everyone was freaking out the mix because I want to Take in Herbert.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's, that's what I would have done, but nobody listens to me. You know, I just uh, my concerns always been he's injury prone and it's not one thing, right, it's not like he Messed up his ACL, it's like his ankles and his knees and his wrist and his thumb and his ribs. And then then it was the concussions last year and what's gonna be this year? Is it gonna be more concussions? Is he gonna Break his arm? I, you know it's unfortunate because he seems like a nice kid and he's fun to watch. If he stays healthy, they'll win. They'll win some 11 games and, you know, compete and like a playoff game or two, because they have a lot of talent. Yeah, I think it's make or break for him and my mind, because if he can't stay healthy this year, it's like, well, when are we gonna be able to rely on you, you know, and right we need you at least 15 games out of the year.
Speaker 1:Maybe you miss one or two games here and there, but so they'll probably because they don't really have any other option. Like, what are they gonna do, you know? So they'll probably pick up that fifth year option, no matter what.
Speaker 5:But yeah, well, I mean the thing with this year your defense is gonna be really good. I think you might be the best defense in the NFL this year. Yeah, fangio, I mean you got that defensive line is gonna be insane, your secondaries the best in the NFL Probably. Maybe the Chats are a little better, but yeah, I think it's just you're playing a really hard division and your schedule is brutal. I mean, your first two games you're at the Chargers and then doing one, so it's, it's gonna be tough sled, but I think you get the defense to do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, big Fangio is like the pickup. Nobody's talking about that. I think it's gonna make a huge difference on the team.
Speaker 3:I don't know. Let's talk about it. Hey Alex, what are you, what's your, what's your prediction for the Pats record this year?
Speaker 1:Well, you know, matt Jones is top-ten quarterback, according to you know, all the ESPN analysts last year hey, they cut everybody else today, so they're all in on Matt Jones.
Speaker 5:They are a Zappy.
Speaker 1:They cut everybody, only Mac Jones now actually got a missed call from Bill Belichick about 15 minutes ago. Maybe that was about I told.
Speaker 5:He's the only quarterback on the roster.
Speaker 1:They cut everybody else. You know what I I told mancher today. I texted him I said maybe they're bringing Edwin back to be back up quarterback.
Speaker 3:We'll have to get him on a talk. New England, that'll be hilarious.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they. If the dolphins beat the Pats, that that's a week. We should bring them on.
Speaker 5:No, let's wait to the. Let's wait. The Pats are oh and for because they play Eagles, dolphins, jets, cowboys to start the season. Oh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't think we're gonna be too good. I mean, the defense will be good, but the offense stinks, dude. I mean they got away with not having any good players on offense. They kept picking these random white dudes from like Publix and saying, hey, come play receiver for us. All you got it. All you got to do is like run over there and not even be looking and Tom Brady's gonna hit you straight in the hands, like you don't even have to try to catch it, it's just your body's gonna catch it because it's gonna be so perfectly thrown.
Speaker 3:You know, and yeah, they, they got away with it all those years man, they.
Speaker 1:They had a couple good receivers here and there. It's not like they had no talent, but they would pick up random running backs no one had ever heard of and they Tom Brady just made the whole thing click man, and without him in, there it's you, is the offense stinks? I Don't think. Max second, he's like two of it, not as good, you know there's their wide receivers are juju and Devonte Parker.
Speaker 5:Devonte do for your, your quarterback, I mean. And then they signed Zeke like that was their big offense offseason move.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's, yeah. That offense gonna be scary was Zeke in there, I tell you.
Speaker 3:I'm concerned.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're gonna win like seven games. What do you?
Speaker 5:think I don't. I think, yeah, I don't even know. I Just wonder is it, could he get bad enough that Bell Jakes just retires completely like they'd have no hope? That's the thing, like what. They don't have any young guys on this team. They're gonna be building for the future like Mack Jones. I mean, he's not the guy. We all know he's not the guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's almost like Bill's just sticking in there so you can pass down Shula, or like number one all-time wins, right, like I think. That's like three seasons away or something like that. I can't remember the number, but With the pace he's at now it's a couple actually. Here's added to that.
Speaker 5:Let's see.
Speaker 4:All right, I need to go here in a second, by the way.
Speaker 3:Yeah same, I was gonna check in with you guys. You guys ready to wrap up?
Speaker 5:Yeah, he's. He's 30 wins behind Chula right now. They'll check Like six years, so that's more than three years.
Speaker 1:He went in 13 games a year. Yeah, that might be for four seasons then, and he's all I mean, any pretty old.
Speaker 5:He is 71. Wow, I did not realize he's 71.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Amy's getting old yeah.
Speaker 1:Well he's, you know, maybe in 10 years he can run for president.
Speaker 4:This young hot shot out of Boston 71 is the new 20, now dude.
Speaker 5:Yeah, wow, and Shula only coached a 65. Shula did that. Can you imagine a Belecek Trump?
Speaker 4:debate Belecek Trump? That would be crazy.
Speaker 3:Wrong, that would be awesome. Wrong, oh man Belecek versus Trump Way in the comments.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the debates are going to be. Must watch TV this year, especially without Joe Biden's kind of like definitely lost a couple steps since the 2021.
Speaker 3:Trump's just going to be like oh, I can't wait.
Speaker 1:Trump's just going to be like shit talking the whole time.
Speaker 5:Dude, dude. What happened to DeSantis? I haven't been paying attention, but no one likes this guy anymore. What happened to him?
Speaker 1:He's weird dude, he was like a year ago.
Speaker 5:Everybody thought this was good. He was going to take down Trump.
Speaker 4:Everyone said he was Trump, but smarter or something.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 5:I haven't been falling at all, but I don't know why everybody just decided like everyone loved him during COVID.
Speaker 1:Well, I think people still really like him, but like Trump's, got that like 40% that are like Trump cultists, almost so they're like we're with them, no matter what Steve Like, we're with them, no matter what dude Steve. Hopefully Steve listens, but yeah.
Speaker 3:Let's get Steve on to talk Trump.
Speaker 1:If you have a Ramos on here, then you must watch podcast.
Speaker 4:Oh my god, pay-per-view.
Speaker 1:See.
Speaker 4:I'm just like they're all.
Speaker 1:They're all idiots dude, they're both idiots.
Speaker 3:Steve, you're wrong.
Speaker 4:I'm not wrong, Steve. I've heard that nobody likes Mike Pence. That's the only thing I've really heard.
Speaker 5:Oh, they've been after him for years, yeah. I mean you know he didn't do what's right, man, he didn't. That was the feeling. He just didn't do what's right, I love that.
Speaker 1:he's just like no, I couldn't have just overturned the election. I just did what I'm supposed to do. I don't know what you want from me.
Speaker 5:He's the biggest rule follower you can find. I mean, I don't understand what people thought. You know they totally.
Speaker 1:when Trump ran, they were like you have such a big personality, you need to get a wet piece of white bread to be your vice president, exactly. Well, trump's a lot of vice presidents going to overshadow him, you know. I mean he wants to be in the spotlight.
Speaker 3:Right, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:You know me, I'm like, I like my candidates more like normal, so like.
Speaker 2:Rubio or like.
Speaker 1:Nikki Haley, or something that you know make sense and all that insane, but Trump's must watch TV, I doubt.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I thought Nikki Haley did a great job in the first place. She did.
Speaker 1:She's a. I think she's pretty sharp and she's she's smart.
Speaker 5:Normal. If Trump was smart, he would make her the running mate.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think so, and I think that might be who he picks If he actually wants to win and not just lose and say he really won, I think. I think his smart pick would be her by far. Yes, that's pick Tim Scott's really good too. Out of South Carolina, he'd be a good pick.
Speaker 3:Yeah, how old is Trump?
Speaker 5:It's the 70, 76.
Speaker 3:Say 75.
Speaker 5:77.
Speaker 3:77. Oh my goodness, they're both so old. So, biden, what's Biden's? Biden's 81. 80. 80? Wow, wow.
Speaker 1:He's that old. The problem is is that Biden acts like he's 97 and Trump acts like he's 60.
Speaker 5:He acts like he's in the nursing home.
Speaker 1:Dude I'll just never forget like the debates with Hillary were so bad. And I just remember I was telling Taylor because I like to watch the debates and I'm like you got to watch this and I just remember telling her like this debate's about to be bad because Trump at least used to be friends with Hillary. He's never liked Biden and I'm like, so these debates are going to go off the rails and she can only watch like 15 minutes. She's like I can't watch this anymore because he's just interrupting the whole time.
Speaker 5:You don't remember the first debate when they literally could. They asked one question and then it was just them just going into the entire. They couldn't even do they ended it with like I don't even know how to interpret what just happened.
Speaker 1:Other other countries. It was crazy, you got to watch us and just be like what the hell is going on.
Speaker 4:Have you guys seen the Shane Gillis skit about that, about Trump? No, shane Gillis, see the comedian. I see that new Okay, I think Trump impression. But he also did a part of his standup routine that's on YouTube about the debates. It's hilarious.
Speaker 1:Oh it's. They need to stop putting them on like Fox and CNN and start putting them on Comedy Central, because that's what it is. I mean, that's like. Trump is so funny dude, though, like I'll never forget when when he was running in 2016, and you know I forget what he was you know he used to call into like all the morning shows, like every morning, like even morning show he was. They loved them. Back then he was on there all the time and I remember there they were, like showing him all the celebrities that said they were going to move to Canada, of Trump one and like.
Speaker 2:One of them was Rosie O'Vonnel, and you know I hate Rosie.
Speaker 1:O'Vonnel. He's like on the phone so you just see like the picture of him and he's like calling in from his cell phone and he just goes. Wait, rosie O'Vonnel said that and he goes. Wow, he goes. That's. I'm going to hang off this phone call and start campaigning immediately, because that just made my election so much more important. Rosie O'Vonnel is going to move to Canada. I'm going to get off the phone and immediately start campaigning.
Speaker 1:But, dude, if he would just act like that and stop getting so butt hurt all the time, people love him.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 5:I mean it's just, it's like fragile ego dude gets in the way Dude, stop talking about 2020, just talk about right now. Like, stop talking about that, just talk about right now, not hard.
Speaker 1:Any level headed person because like I wasn't a huge fan, but like any level headed person, even like moderate Democrats, would tell you like hey, he did some good things. If he could just like shut his mouth and just like make the occasional joke, dude, he would have been so popular. He really could have changed the political game. But he just he's his own worst enemy.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, he just talked about China. Just talk about China, talk about China, just talk about China.
Speaker 1:And the best is you can tell his like you know his staffers will try to tell him like keep him on script. And then you can tell when he immediately gets off script and just starts like talking about shit. Nobody knows what he's talking about and it's like oh God, here we go. This press conference is going to be two hours, we should do a debate.
Speaker 4:We.
Speaker 1:Should do a debate Watch party. That'd be great. That's going to be must watch. Oh my God Please.
Speaker 5:It would be so funny. Please get Ramas in here too. I just just to have the banter back and forth. It'd be so funny to say I believe I would leave. Someone would leave, yeah, someone would have to leave.
Speaker 1:We should, we should hang out, sit our chairs just far back enough to where no one notices and have, like him and Steve's, chairs sliding down and then just pull, pull out the drinks and just watch the train wreck unfold, but their chairs on opposite ends, right, so we're just looking back and forth.
Speaker 4:That's. That's that's the setup. I want man Cause for me it's like front row, front row seat.
Speaker 1:We're screwed either way, so I might as well enjoy the. Enjoy the disaster. Yep Dude, I cannot believe we're going to run this back.
Speaker 5:It's so fucking stupid. We're running it back, baby.
Speaker 1:This is America. I love it. Cause, like if you if you look at the polls, like 70% of Americans don't want the rematch, but it's still going to happen and nobody knows how that's so awesome. I mean literally best case scenario, One of the best case scenario.
Speaker 5:All right, edit that part out.
Speaker 1:The FBI is going to be watching. Chris cut that door.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I'll cut that out. That's like just bleep. That Put the bleep in there, chris.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, is someone man? Yeah, it's a, yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1:Should we, should we wrap up, get everyone on our way and get hurricane hunkered down yeah.
Speaker 4:Go hunker down boys.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you're ready for this All right so you all are buying the drinks.
Speaker 1:You're all buying me drinks before the state wins on Sunday, since you all picked LSU.
Speaker 3:Got it? Yeah, good Hell, yeah, yeah, otherwise, yeah, but if we lose that bet, I'll cut it out. All right, it's either way.
Speaker 4:It's going to be a good game. It's going to be a great game, yeah. It's going to be a great game.
Speaker 5:It's going to be a great game. Yeah, it's going to be a great game.
Speaker 4:Football, so back.
Speaker 1:Looking back, those games are always great, but like during them it's like so stressful. But yeah, it'll be a great game.
Speaker 5:Last year was insane man, when they scored that last second touchdown they missed the extra point. I mean it was incredible, Awesome.
Speaker 1:And then we fumbled it Like we totally screwed up. We should have punched it in yeah, go up by. Like what? What would that have been?
Speaker 5:Two touchdowns. You guys almost choked away the game. You guys had the game and almost choked it away. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then people forget that they I forget exactly what the rule was, but LSU shouldn't have even gotten the chance to score that touchdown because I think the guy like they ran out of time, the guy was down in balance and like they didn't, but for some reason they gave them a second on the clock, so like the game should have been over before it was over and then we blocked the kick. It was just crazy. College football is why it's the best.
Speaker 4:What a what is this game? Is it an eight four matchup? What is LSU or five?
Speaker 5:I think the five and eight to five. Yeah, I will say. The one thing that does suck about the rule change for this year is not stopping the clock on first day. I don't understand why they did that. The games went so much faster over the weekend. It's going to suck Like why are we shortening the games? We need to enjoy this, savor it. It's not baseball. We're not trying to speed up the game.
Speaker 1:If they're going to do it. It makes more sense if they're playing a couple extra games, like during the season, like you said, like maybe next year it makes fan play off. But yeah, it's like yeah, college football is like the best. You don't want the games to go by too fast, right? Yeah, I'll be watching when the Gators lose on Thursday at Corey, so we'll see. Hopefully we can. We can talk about that one together.
Speaker 4:I mean we can both just bitch out grand merch together. I'm fine with that.
Speaker 1:Dude, he's a lady, he's good. Thankfully he'll Billy. Willie got him instead of a heart man.
Speaker 4:Yeah, thankfully bad quarterbacks in the big 10. Once they come to the SEC, they get better. Right, yeah, yeah, all right, all right, all right.
Speaker 5:All right, all right yeah.
Speaker 1:It's good talking to you guys. Yeah, good seeing you, alex. Good seeing you guys. We'll talk soon. Yeah, bye, boys.
Speaker 4:Yeah, go big blue, all right yeah.