Ever felt like your heart was being passed around like a football during a tense playoff game? That's the vibe Steve Yinzer brings to our latest chat, as we dissect the high-stakes drama of being a sports fan. The Yinzer kicks things off with the gut-wrenching saga of the Pittsburgh Penguins, then we huddle up to scrutinize the Pittsburgh Steelers' quarterback quandary. From Mason Rudolph’s future to the choice of starting Mitch Trubisky, we analyze it all. And if you're wondering about the NFL's bigger picture, we've got hot takes on potential coaching shake-ups and the magic of Mike McDaniel.
This episode isn't just about the strategies on the field; it's about the chess game on the sidelines, too. Does Mike Tomlin need a star coordinator to bolster the Steelers' offense? We ponder big "what-ifs," like the possibility of trading for Justin Fields, and even entertain a future where Tomlin passes the torch. And for those who live for the thrill of predictions, we make some bold calls on upcoming NFL games and weigh in on the shifting college football landscape. Whether you're a Steelers devotee or just love the game, our discussion is as charged as a fourth-quarter comeback.
Wrap up your sports week with a dose of humor and insight as we tackle everything from fan-induced popcorn showers to the chances of the Detroit Lions in Hard Knocks. Don't miss our reflections on Zach Gentry's career moves and some personal betting stories that'll have you both cringing and cheering. With Steve Yinzer in the mix, this conversation on coaches, quarterbacks, and the pure emotional rush of football is like catching the game-winning touchdown – exhilarating, unforgettable, and always leaving you wanting more.
Ever felt like your heart was being passed around like a football during a tense playoff game? That's the vibe Steve Yinzer brings to our latest chat, as we dissect the high-stakes drama of being a sports fan. The Yinzer kicks things off with the gut-wrenching saga of the Pittsburgh Penguins, then we huddle up to scrutinize the Pittsburgh Steelers' quarterback quandary. From Mason Rudolph’s future to the choice of starting Mitch Trubisky, we analyze it all. And if you're wondering about the NFL's bigger picture, we've got hot takes on potential coaching shake-ups and the magic of Mike McDaniel.
This episode isn't just about the strategies on the field; it's about the chess game on the sidelines, too. Does Mike Tomlin need a star coordinator to bolster the Steelers' offense? We ponder big "what-ifs," like the possibility of trading for Justin Fields, and even entertain a future where Tomlin passes the torch. And for those who live for the thrill of predictions, we make some bold calls on upcoming NFL games and weigh in on the shifting college football landscape. Whether you're a Steelers devotee or just love the game, our discussion is as charged as a fourth-quarter comeback.
Wrap up your sports week with a dose of humor and insight as we tackle everything from fan-induced popcorn showers to the chances of the Detroit Lions in Hard Knocks. Don't miss our reflections on Zach Gentry's career moves and some personal betting stories that'll have you both cringing and cheering. With Steve Yinzer in the mix, this conversation on coaches, quarterbacks, and the pure emotional rush of football is like catching the game-winning touchdown – exhilarating, unforgettable, and always leaving you wanting more.
3, 2, 1. Hello and welcome to Sports Proves Episode 33. Nfl Wild Card is set. Damp paybuckineers moving on. As we all expected, got the division around. This week we have a new guest, steve Yinser from Pittsburgh. Come to talk. All thanks, steelers, mike Tomlin. What's gonna happen with him? But as a ride of passage, as we always start these shows with new guests, we lead off with the most heartbreaking sports moment of your life. We relive it together. Have you bring it up? And what is your most heartbreaking moment?
Speaker 2:Well, given I was, you know, given five minutes to determine my most heartbreaking year, got to go. There was Steelers Packers, but I don't know. Penguins were on a run in 2016-2017. They had the original salary cap, back-to-back champions here, but it's gotta be 2018. Losing that game with Danny Kuznetsov down the ice Brutal.
Speaker 2:I was there and wish I wasn't. Yeah for going. Current day stuff. Steelers should have played on Sunday. They would have won. That's all I'm saying. Oh, so the weather's to blame? Yeah, blame Mother Nature, new York's governor, whoever you want to blame. I mean, I think, if we would have played Sunday under those conditions, steelers run games better than the bills. So, yeah, blame those soft liberals. Right, hatch up. I guess Gotta blame the Libs. They shut it down. But you know, still, pittsburgh Rally. They, you know, enjoyed a Sunday of watching football, stress-free. And then we rolled into Monday, martin Luther King day, everyone pretty much had off and, you know, strolled into the bars at one o'clock for Penguins crack in home game and stayed there for the Steelers game. But you know, we all know how that turned out. There was a, there was a chance, there was hope, but not a reason.
Speaker 1:So I don't understand. I heard Kenny Pickett was was active. I was wondering why he didn't play, because they played the right quarterback.
Speaker 2:That's what they did, okay, and I think you know whatever audience is gonna be out there. I'll just tell you right now. I think everyone in America knows how I feel about Kenny Pickett. He ain't it. Any one of us five guys could have done a better job at quarterback than Kenny Pickett would have. So you know I think they rode the hot hand, mason, you know he put together three, what three straight weeks of really good games, better than Kenny or Mitch had done in the past two years. So I was all in favor of, you know, mason starting and he didn't have a bad game. I mean, yeah, he had the two interceptions or whatever, but they did more than any of the others could have. I mean, in a perfect world Ben would have just came back, but age catches up to some people, not calm but Ben.
Speaker 1:Tom Brady. He was fun to watch. Then you quit on us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, speaking of Ben Ralfersberger, I just watching the games this week, you see these two prominent franchise and the Packers and the Steelers, and they both went about it different ways of the rebuild. Right like the Steelers, they let Ben write it out. They didn't want to bring in a young guy when he was there and they kind of just got screwed on a bad draft. Right like Kenny Pickett was the best guy available. That draft class just wasn't good, yep. And then the Packers, on the other hand, they're like screw Aaron Rodgers what he thinks. Same thing they did to Brett Farr. They got Aaron Rodgers. Right, we're gonna get a first round quarterback and we're gonna stash him for a little bit.
Speaker 2:And that's what's amazing about them is seeing them do it again and not like how do other teams not see that and think, okay, you know, like, if we're gonna draft and you know the back half of the first round anyway, why don't we stash one of these good rookie quarterbacks, maybe take a shot on them when he falls to us and then we'll just keep them on reserve until whoever we've got you know the veteran is, you know steps away, retires, leaves, whatever. I mean. It's set them up perfectly. Their rebuild essentially didn't even happen. I mean, it was the first five weeks of the season and then they rebounded and then they're in the playoffs. Now they beat the Packers and they're rolling crazy. Yeah, I'll be honest. In Pittsburgh, you know we beat the Packers early in the season and you know you thought, okay, didn't feel great, but now watching them play, you're like makes us feel better about our win, you know so did they go on their run immediately after the Bucks beat them?
Speaker 1:was that when they started it?
Speaker 4:yes, but it was. It was also Panthers, vikings and then Bears to finish the season. But they did beat, you know, chargers, I think, with all their guys. And then they immediately went on and beat Lions in Detroit and then Chiefs after that. Then they lost to the Giants and the Bucks right, but they the lines on the rollercoastering yeah, they beat the lines on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2:That was like their big moment of like, oh right, crap, they give, the Packers are for real. And then they went down and then they came back up, so yep. I mean you can't be. Yeah, dalton, tommy DeVito here, right, so I think that's you still on the video the Tommy DeVito game.
Speaker 4:That was legendary so did Jordan love by himself the next two years, one year when he's not short one left on his one left on this rookie deal, right?
Speaker 2:I think Jordan love just got himself a max contract, right.
Speaker 1:I think so you beat Dallas in Dallas, I think one game.
Speaker 2:I mean, well, the playoffs. They're in a rebuilding year, man, the expectation for them was to be like a max contour.
Speaker 4:I mean, what if he goes out and throw three, three picks next week, this week, whatever?
Speaker 1:but it's 49ers, so yeah, I mean can't follow that.
Speaker 2:That's been so yeah, I mean, that's what's, that's what's tricky, right. I mean, the Eagles are saying the same thing right now. Did we give Jaylen Hertz a max contract at the wrong time? Did we jump the gun? Should we have waited and seen what another year of this looks like? I mean, I think in the NFL you just got to get it, like if you got a guy, you got to pay him, like that's just how it is. Otherwise, I mean, think about what the Ravens could have been if they let Lamar walk right. If they let Lamar Jackson get out of Baltimore. It would have started this year with Huntley. Well, right, I don't know, like it's no, knock you back up quarterback. I mean, he's very, you know he. I personally think Huntley is harder to play against for the Steelers than Lamar is. Really what exactly? That's a hot take, yeah, but week 18.
Speaker 2:I mean the Ravens had so many guys benched and you know we're reserving them, but every time we play Huntley like he puts up good numbers, he has good games against the Steelers. So yeah, I don't think he's a quarterback. You know, if I know he's done at the end of the year, or his contracts at the end of the year, he's gonna be hot commodity. Someone's gonna want him to, at the very least, be their backup, possibly a starter. Well, that's high praise, for I mean, he's a pro bowler. Right, he got a pro bowler.
Speaker 2:Huntley? Yeah, I don't think he's, I think it's. It's a numbers game, right, you know he's probably 34th on the on a depth chart and quarterbacks or whatever, but he could go in somewhere and plug in and be a starting quarterback.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like a Jacoby Berset type yeah, damn darnold maybe. James Winston journeyman James.
Speaker 2:You could see, I don't know, gino Smith was a nobody for a while and I don't want to say no, yeah, but now I can see him being a Gino Smith type player, yeah. So, circling back to the Steelers, what we do about this quarterback situation? Well, there's two different things. Right, you got to figure out. Well, actually three, because you got coach, offense, coordinator, quarterback, here we go three different. Defense is good, right, like defense, we got TJ Watt, we got Mika, we were good. But on offense, what are we doing? Let's, let's start with quarterback. Like you got Kenny, this is year three, we're going into year three, is that right? Yep, yep. Do we draft a QB this year? Do we look for a veteran free agent and have them there and there's a backup ready to take over the job? Maybe get Kenny the lead next year, the starter job, and then maybe give it someone else. What are you thinking the Steelers take on it or do you want the Steelers fans take on it? Right? So there's, there's two different ways to improve. Like both, let's get both. And yeah, I think the Steelers no.
Speaker 2:Tomlin today said you know, kenny's QB won with competition next year, so technically he's had competition both years. You know, the first year they started Mitch over Kenny, which I was all in favor for. I've never been a Kenny fan. I thought a first round for him was insane. I think if that dude played anywhere else, no Steelers fan would be as obsessed with him as they are. You know, I'm not a pit football fan. So I've never viewed Kenny as an elite quarterback. I've never viewed him as an NFL quarterback. You know, I think starting Mitch was the right move. Last year obviously didn't play out well. Kenny came in shortly, other a couple good games. But let's look at the numbers. You know he's in his career between him and Mitch combined have had what 20, I think it's 22 touchdown passes or whatever.
Speaker 2:And Mitch or sorry, mason, he was kind of a shadow. You know I've seen Mason hammered at a bar on a Saturday night because he knows he's not doing anything Sunday morning, sunday afternoon. So yeah, I've seen him. A coupe great bar, by the way. But you know, I think you know, coming into it they really didn't have a choice. Mason kind of shit the bed which historically he's done.
Speaker 2:You know they bring Mason in and, to echo Tomlin's comments today, it's like, you know, there's no more figuring out what he has. We know what he has, we know what he's capable of. You know he, he came in in those four games and really asserted himself and knew the team, knew the offense, knew you know who was thrown to, knew the system. So I'd love to have Mason back next year. You know, I don't know if he's a starting NFL quarterback, but I sure shit want him back backing up whoever he's a free agent, yeah, sure, yeah. So well, money, will money come into it where I'm sure some other team will see what he's done and say, okay, we're gonna pay a little bit more probably. But the dude lives in a million dollar townhouse 50 feet away from my front door. So you know I he doesn't want to leave. He's made comments, he loves it here and seeing him out in Pittsburgh, I think he loves it here. So I think there's a reason he took the lesser deal last year to come back as a third string and I think if you know they can guarantee him at least a backup, he'll be back and I want him back this he was he drafted by the Steelers yeah
Speaker 2:yeah, he was. Yep, see, that's why I didn't understand them bringing in Mitch, because to me Mitch is the same guy, is Pickett and Trevisky, I mean, or Mason, I think they're very comparable. That's the kind of your problem is you got three good backups but you don't really have a great starter. Yeah, I mean, you know we've done the Kenny experiment. You know coach T said today, you know Kenny's QB1 with competition, but if he walked tomorrow, if they were like, hey, dude, you're done like this isn't working out, I'll drive him to wherever he's got to go next. Yeah, and that's their problem, that's the Steelers problem.
Speaker 2:Right, is they got to do like these other good run, well run franchises? You know, like, unlike our team, the Bucks, who usually pick in the top or the draft most years, aside from the Tom Brady situation we're in right now but you guys, like the Chiefs, like the Packers, like you have to either make a big move to trade up and get a guy in the draft, a quarterback, or you're sitting back and you're waiting for, like a Kenny Pickett, or taking a chance on a guy flyer. I mean, the Packers took a flyer and Jordan Love. It just happened to work out, but, like the Chiefs. They traded up to get Pat Mahomes. So you just it's. It's weird like I don't know if that's your move this year, but that should have been the move right. You should have took a risk in a good. You got a ticket risk in a good QB draft class. Though we're better options to take with that first round pick than Kenny Pickett. I mean, I look at our O line pretty terrible shit. We need a center, you know. So probably should look at one of those this year. I would not use a first round pick on a quarterback.
Speaker 2:I think there's enough free agents out there. I think there's enough veteran free agents out there that you can go cousins, you can go trade for fields. You can look at Baker with Russ Wilson. Yeah, I mean Baker, don't get me wrong. Cleveland screwed over Baker and I think Cleveland right now sitting there saying why did we get rid of him? Why did we trade three first round picks and then some to get to Sean, who hasn't even played half a season yet because he's either heard or suspended. So I'm a Baker fan personally and I didn't hate him in Cleveland. I obviously just hated Cleveland as a team, but Bakers and AFC North guy, I could see him come to Pittsburgh. You know I could see him wanting, you know the elements here and whatnot, but I love what he's doing in Tampa this year. I loved what he did in LA last year when he went there.
Speaker 2:You know he went in, bought off a plane and played a football game in what 12 hours? And won the game for the Rams. So I respect Baker. I think Bakers a cool dude and I think that's what they should have done, right they? Back to my comment about Trabitsky. That wasn't the right move. They should have went and got Baker, or even Sam Darnold. I think Sam Darnold would have meant upgrade. You know, big guy, big arm, you know. You know, and that's kind of system maybe. I mean just a gunslinger. A big Ben was like to me that that would have been better, but it's a gunslinger, it's not. Dealers have never really had a mobile running quarterback, right. So Cordell Stewart, okay. Steelers yeah.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I'd love a Baker, you know, I'd love a cousins, you know if they trade for fields. Who knows what's gonna happen with Russ Wilson. He's all about right about Russ, you know he's out of there and who are some of the other big free agents? Like I can't think of stuff my head. Russ is interesting, that's a good point. Like, what's gonna happen to Russell, it's very would be awesome yeah. I don't like that. What?
Speaker 4:about like a but, he's got stars though.
Speaker 2:I. That's the only question. Right is does Russ, does he go to a situation where he's gonna compete for the job? Is he dropped that part? Let's be honest, though if you're gonna sign. You're gonna sign Russ Wilson. You're gonna say to you know, keep Kenny's confidence or head straight. You say, okay, we're going to figure out who has a better camp, but if you're signing Russ, you're starting Russ.
Speaker 1:Or throw Kenny in the trade for him. Probably better Like you're a guy, you wouldn't trade him, you wouldn't trade for Russ and him not be the guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you'd have to give up Kenny, probably. It's fine, like I said, I'll drive him to Canada. That's a good point.
Speaker 4:What's.
Speaker 2:Denver going to do Because they got to trade him Drew Lock's a name no. Drew Lock yeah, yeah, he's out in Seattle, yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know, or is he going to roll with Gino? I mean, gino's getting up there, I don't see. I mean, I don't know it. Just that's another situation where it depends on who the coach is Right, takes that job. But speaking of coaches, when it comes in, speaking of coaches, yeah, yeah. So let's talk about that, the second part of the equation. Now how we feeling about Coach T? Lifetime fan. I did a quarter bourbon before this one, but you know.
Speaker 4:He's a walking winning record right.
Speaker 2:He, yeah, never had a losing season. Atenate me, pittsburgh dad Watch that season where he talks to Tomlin and Rothesberger, where he's like you know, atenate's nothing to be proud of and I've always loved that. I'm like it's for Pittsburgh, it's super or bust right. So recently it's been make the playoffs robust and even more so maybe try to win a playoff game. But I don't know. I like Mike Tomlin. I think Mike Tomlin, if you go around and you look at what every player in the league says, they do this pool every year. What, what coach do you want to play for? It's always Mike Tomlin. Yes, he's a player's coach. Do I think Mike Tomlin is a cool guy? Yes, 100%. I also think a lot of times he, his hands are tied because the roots and again not going to sit here and shit talk to the runes. They're some of the most historic figures or historic family in sports.
Speaker 2:But when was the last time the Steelers went out and got a big name, dc or OC, because they don't want to pay it? You know they get these no names from that Canada or the only one really from out the organization? In the past, what 20 years was taught Haley? And again, who? Now they said. He said today you know they're going outside of the organization for an OC this year, which is great. I like Mike. He's got a year left on his contract. Don't give him an extension. Go into the year with a new offensive coordinator, hopefully a new quarterback, and see what the guy can do. You know, go get a big name. Go get your Bieneme, or I never know how to pronounce the name Bieneme or Bieneme. Go get the guy you know. I know I think it was what Carolina or the Chargers today interviewed Cliff Clingsbury for their OC position. I mean, he ran a good offense out there in Arizona, so the steel is different with the quarterbacks there.
Speaker 2:But, yeah, you have to bring in somebody. The Steelers have the advantage of the name, right? So you're a Bieneme or a Clingsbury and the Steelers come to you and say, hey, we're going to actually open up the checkbook this year. We want you to come be the OC. That's a recognition the Steelers have versus the Chargers or the Panthers or whoever you know. You're going out and you're saying, hey, you can be the OC under Tomlin, you're part of the Steelers organization, we're going to go get a quarterback, or we've already gotten a quarterback. You know to come in. Why are you going to say now, you're not. It's a historic franchise, and I'm not just saying that because I'm a fan. I mean I think we can all sit here and say you know, you've got your Cowboys, you've got your Steelers, you've got you know your Giants, your Jets, whatever. They're historic franchises. Where are you really going to turn down that opportunity if given it? No, yeah, I had the Cliff.
Speaker 2:Kingsbury is just interesting to me because you got this guy who had all these big name quarterbacks. I mean he had Pat Mahomes in college. He doesn't even have a winning record at Texas Tech. He goes to Arizona. That I mean, was it really? I mean, he went to playoffs one year. He had a great start to the year, one season, mid playoffs and then what was he doing last? He was like the OC at USC. He was off the court. Caleb Williams, right. So I mean that to me.
Speaker 2:When I saw that that he's interviewing for Chicago the Panthers and the Bears that reached out to interview that's right, bears, because now everyone's thinking like you know, I've been watching Barstool and whatnot say, oh well, we're going to interview Clingsbury, does that mean we're going in for Williams? That mean we're going to trade fields? So I don't know. We're still at the point. This 23 season is still ongoing. Nobody really knows what's going to happen. There's going to be a lot of shuffling. I mean we've got what? Seven head coaching positions, open Handfuls and handfuls of those season DCs that are going to come up. But the biggest shock, you know, I think the biggest shock for me so far was McCarthy down in Dallas. They're rolling here. I didn't expect that so fast. No, and I thought, I honestly thought after Sunday when, when they lost, it was going to be Belichick was named as the head coach by Wednesday.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I thought that would never work, though, like we all know, jerry Jones and Belichick I mean, I think Belichick knows that he would hate to work for Jerry Jones, like Robert Kraft said, all like he's not involved, like in the details, he lets Belichick do everything, gm coach everything. Yeah, jerry would not be like that. I don't think Jerry could give it up. Yeah, even if it was Belichick. But then Jerry's just going to be in the same position every year that he's in, of sitting in that press box slapping his no card, you know, and we're all lip reading what's he, what did he just say? You know that type of stuff. So I don't know. It's.
Speaker 2:The coaching carousel this year is going to be very interesting, I think. You know, from a head coach position to the whole way down to OCs and DCs, where people go yeah and what, what. Dallas came out and said we're looking at the overall record of what he's done and, yeah, it's been great, but you've choked in the playoffs every year. You know, daniel, daniel Quinn's probably going to be gone, someone's been in my, probably as a head coach. Yeah, go back to Seattle. Can I give you a proposal here, steven? I'm going to throw this out there.
Speaker 2:So so what do you think? We know you were like all right, tom Linke, good for one more year, let's write it out. But what if Tom Linke decides to I don't know retire or whatever? Step away, coaching vacancy opens up. You get Mike for able and then you trade for fields. So you got fields graves and you're running Smash Mouth Football. I mean, to me that is Steelers right there. I think that would be like the perfect formula to bring Steelers back. So can't see it in the in the picture, but there is a very nice king size bed right there that I will abandon this apartment and be homeless. And if you want to come to Pittsburgh, yeah, I would love Rape's here in Pittsburgh. I mean, he's got. He's got a little bit of a tie here, does he? Yeah, he was drafted by. Was drafted by the Steelers.
Speaker 2:Was he really? Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I think Vrape's coming in and get a quarterback. I'd love the two. You know, I'd love Vrape's here to begin with. He's obviously going to get swooped up somewhere. I think Titans were stupid to just fire him and not try to get something out of it. You know she came on and said, well, we couldn't wait. And you know, risk having him still on the on the thing. I'm like you're not going to have a problem trading him somewhere, being like, hey, we give us a second round pick for him. Shit, anyone would jump all over that. I'd love for the Steelers to do that.
Speaker 2:But going back to Tomlin, though I I like Mike Tomlin. He's been here a long time. I think Mike Tomlin might have a better personality for TV. Really Love to see Mike Tomlin on one of the you know Fox or CBS or ESPN pre games and you know sitting there talking, you know kind of like the, the Jimmy Johnson or the Michael Stray, and I think Mike Tomlin would be fantastic at that. Terry Bradshaw, I don't know. Yeah, but I'm at the point. If we've got to have him for one more year, let's give him a year. Prove it.
Speaker 2:Unless Braves can come into the, come into the conversation here. See, that's why I see this situation as, and the way he walked out of the press conference, to me that's that's eye opening right, like he didn't answer the question, he just left. If he really cared about the Steelers franchise, he really cared. And you saw out there Braves, vela, check. I mean I think I think you're all done, but you saw these names right that you could bring in, right, I mean, I I think it would be the right move for him to step just be like you know what. I went out on a playoff run like never had a losing season. Right, the Steelers are going to fire him. They don't fire coaches, so it's got to be him.
Speaker 2:And I feel like this is like Vrable to me is the perfect guy for that job. I really hope, like I want to see it, just as a football fan, because it would revitalize that fan base. Like you guys, dealer nation would be super fired up for that guy. For Braves coming in there, you know, if they decided to part ways with Tomlin, obviously you've got to do it sooner rather than later. Vraves isn't going to stick around for, you know, the entire off season. But I also feel like and this goes back to the historic franchise. Plus, it's the team that drafted him. I think if the Steelers went to Braves and said, hey, we want you to be our head coach, he's like I don't need to interview anywhere else, I'm in, yeah, so CVS is reporting that Art Rooney confirms plan to extend Mike Tomlin's contract.
Speaker 1:Is that yeah?
Speaker 2:So in his conference today, you know, the question was well, let's go back to Monday. You know his, the question everyone saw was about one year left and that's when he, you know, exited stage left or whatever it was. So you know he came on today and said he plans to be here. Rooney's have come out and said, yeah, mike's back for the final year of his contract, but, like I said earlier, I wouldn't extend him. I wouldn't extend him until you see what he does next year.
Speaker 1:You know so. So if in like a month you hear Tomlin for your extension, is that good or bad? Not ideal?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not ideal, but I mean, I think what Steelers fans have to also take into consideration is you know how lucky we've been as far as coaches. Yeah, we've had less than a handful right. So take a look at your Clevelands that have had I can't even count how many coaches they've had or whatnot. You know there's been consistency. There's been. We'll get to Tampa's coach in a second. I wanted to talk, you know. I just you've got to be careful, you've got to tread lightly right. You can't just fire the guy and hope you're going to get the next best thing. And I think, yes, there are great options out there. But Mike Tomlin's been here for a very long time and not many franchises can say you know we're this storied and have had really three prevalent head coaches in that time. You know you go back to your, your Noel Cowher and then Tomlin. Yeah, it's crazy. And if and if it is Vrable, he's there till he was.
Speaker 2:He's done like he's retiring a Steelers football coach Like your coach, yep, yep, he's the next coach for the next 20 years. Like there's no question, right? I just want to say it, man, I want to say it so bad. Like I love Tomlin too, like I love his, don't blink. Like his, you know his phrases and stuff splash plays, like stuff like that. Yeah, I think, to go back to your original question of you, know Tomlin or Vrable, I would, I would move on from Tomlin for Vrable. But anyone else right now, yeah, really yeah.
Speaker 2:Belichick, no, because he's going to coach for what? That's why they wouldn't do it. Because Belichick, because he could give you what? Five years, it's not. Yeah, they're not hiring Belichick because it's past. They're going to look at Belichick and be like he might be here for five more years and then put a dog on his computer for the draft.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, yep, and you know what Belichick's doing, right? He's just trying to get the record for wins. That's all he really cares about. This point is passing. Oh my gosh, I just lost what's the name? Shula, passing, don, don, shula. So wherever he goes, it's that get the record gone Done.
Speaker 2:I don't think he's. I mean yes, in his, in his mind, he's probably like I want to go win a Super Bowl. I want to do what Brady did we each have one without each other kind of even the playing field. I just don't think it's a long term play for him, right, but at this stage in Belichick's career you trust him. I mean, he's only there for, like you said, the record. So let's say, either your record or things go south. What's to say he's not, I'm out. You know, I'm loyal to New England. I've been there for what? 20 some years. I'm out. Yeah, that's what's so weird about him going to the Falcons. Like all this Falcons talk that makes no sense to me. Like they're not close, they aren't. Like they went six and 10, three straight years. Like Arthur Smith was not a great coach, but he's. I mean he was trying.
Speaker 4:Right, well, they got. They got to have a plan to get a quarterback in If. If he's going to go to Atlanta, you assume, right, right, somebody like Kirk or something like that.
Speaker 2:I mean you're Belichick right now with the, with the seven vacancies, you're going to do chargers. Yeah, I mean, where else? Or else would you Probably the closest. I really thought I really thought the Eagles fan base was going to push out Sirianni, like I really thought they were going to make enough of a uproar that they would have to To get fire to took your team to the Super Bowl last time and then made the playoffs. All three years Made the playoffs.
Speaker 4:Essentially do that with Pederson, though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was like two years but yeah easy out there in Philly, right? I loved the guy. I'm sure you've all seen the, the Tik Tok or whatever. If the dude thrown popcorn at Sierra on it. Oh yeah. You're done.
Speaker 1:I just love that that was a road game.
Speaker 2:That was it. Like you were not playing at home in front of your own fans. That was a. You're on the road and you're getting thrown it by your own fan. That's just to watch Billy. At least that guy up the stands. Yeah, that was good.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you guys see the dolphins fan, the dude in the dolphins jersey. He was baked, he was gone. He's like I'm watching a movie in real life and I'm here.
Speaker 2:But hey, I mean let's get to that, let's go to bucks for a second. I mean good for them. I think they played an excellent game. You know, and you know, my favorite thing to come out of it and I'm sure you've all seen it was who was the lady that asked the question about?
Speaker 1:I don't know whether Ha, ha, ha. No idea yeah. I need to look it up and see who it was.
Speaker 2:You just like kept his cool, but he got that little like smirk in there. He was like you know, it's a dome right, the coolest things are walking from the bus inside. Like Me, personally, I'd be up there if that put him. Be like, Are you serious? Like?
Speaker 1:yeah, I was thinking, if it was anyone else up there besides Todd Bowles, how their reactions would have been like if it was Bella check that you asked, or like I don't know To go back to, or something Serious.
Speaker 2:He'd be like what?
Speaker 4:Can you imagine what Mike McDaniel would have said? Maybe he's got a crazy.
Speaker 2:Maybe not even from a performance perspective, but from entertainment. He's got to be my favorite coach in the NFL.
Speaker 4:He's great. Mcdaniel is so funny.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, do you see how? Do you see how cold he was when they interviewed him coming out of half time, and again this past weekend he was like he could barely talk.
Speaker 2:It's like his lips were frozen. I've been watching, I've watched the end season, hard knocks and just some of the you know and Tyree cause on the sidelines. It was like, oh you know, hey, how do I look and I can make this joke cause I am short but a Tyree comes over and was like hey, how do I look? And McDaniel is just like short. I just think he's Is it good.
Speaker 1:I never watched the, it was good.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah, it's worth at least putting on during the work day when you're kind of sitting there reading through emails and stuff. But it was good.
Speaker 4:Yeah, speaking of hard knocks, did you guys see that if nobody volunteers, there's like three teams that they could force hard knocks on?
Speaker 2:Hopefully one's the Steelers.
Speaker 4:It was like Houston it was like Houston, Atlanta maybe, and then one other team, I don't think Steelers or bucks were on there.
Speaker 2:I mean, what's the criteria for? Because the dolphins shouldn't have been on hard knocks. I mean, it was always the Lions who were struggling and you know round up plus them for a second, I think. You know, going to the Super Bowl, I'm not going to. You know, sit here and say I'm a Lions fan this week, but if the Lions were to beat the bucks, I'd have to get on that lion's bandwagon for the year.
Speaker 1:I already put a lion's Super Bowl future in, locked and loaded, ready to go. We're just going to bet Plus eight, 50.
Speaker 2:Okay, I got him at 10 to one. I wish I would have jumped in earlier in the year. I was like, damn, I should have done this, like right out. I honestly had doubts about them. You know, they beat the Chiefs one week one. But I was like I don't know man, they've never done this before. And then when they played, when they drew the Rams, I was like, oh, this is it, this is how they're going to go out. They're going to get their home playoff. They're going to get their home playoff. Okay, so perfect efforts to come in. I was like this is just so scripted. And then they pulled it out. I just I can't believe what day Campbell has done. It's amazing, just amazing. Yes, that was truly the best game of wild card weekend. Yeah, that was the only years.
Speaker 1:I might say it was awesome, that was a perfect game, yep.
Speaker 2:It was what.
Speaker 1:25, 23, final Mm hmm, yeah, you see, you know, the fans like didn't leave. They lingered around for so long and just stayed there, just to basket.
Speaker 2:And they're like you're going to get it again next week.
Speaker 1:So calm down, it's going to be different. It's going to be different next week, so it's going to be cool.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I guess we can by the way, I got every team wrong. It was a Saints Broncos or Bears or Hard Knocks. All yeah. Not even close at all, yep.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Broncos this year would have been funny. I don't want to see Sean Payton on that show. Can't stand him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. I think the only rules are you can't be a team that's done it in the last five years or seven years or whatever, and then you can't be a first year head coach. Think other than that's pretty much fair game, but they don't base it off of performance right, Cause I mean it's marketer building no.
Speaker 2:No, book it, book it In fact. So the end season hard knocks only started three years ago with the Colts and it's a curse now because the Colts got the first year. They collapsed, lost the Jags, they blew the playoffs, lost the Jags in the fight. I watched that season just to watch that episode. It was hilarious, frank Wright going the locker room after they just blew that to the freaking one. Win Jags and that's the opportunity for the Steelers. Frank Wright, you want Frank Wright?
Speaker 4:No.
Speaker 2:Not against it.
Speaker 1:Wait, wait, as head coach, okay, oh my God, let's unpack that for a second.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I mean he was great Philly, I mean, and then he just just when you watch those shows and that's why I kind of like I think McDaniels hilarious too, but I just he's not like I don't know if he really is like the leader, like the CEO kind of guy, like the like I'm controlling the team, like that's the like. Watching Dan Campbell on hard knocks, it makes sense how he was able to turn that around, because he lets his coaches coach and he manages the team around it. Like he is the one kind of the bridge in the gap from the GM, the coaches, the players. He's the perfect guy for that role, which is crazy, cause you just think this is like a. He's like a straight coach, right, he's just like a pump up guy, but it's perfect cause he lets the coaches coach. I think most guys just come in.
Speaker 2:They tried, like Mike McDaniel. I worry about these trying to get too much in the weeds. Yeah, that's fair. I think he also loves the like. I don't know you want to call publicity or or whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know he at least has fun with the media and the publicity. You know you compare him to Bill Belichick and it's absolute polar opposites, right? So, yeah, yeah, that was one scene that was never going to do. Hard knocks Patriots with Belichick Hell, no, do you think any more coaches, head coaches, will go between now on the start of next year you fired, yeah, before the start of next season. So you mean, like playoff teams firing coaches?
Speaker 1:Yeah, who's going to fire their?
Speaker 2:coach. Not anymore. I mean, it would be the Eagles and they. I think the lightest thing I saw yesterday was that they're going to keep Sirianni and focus in on piring, a new office coordinator, defense coordinator, essentially saying like, hey, it worked last year, we had the right coordinators and he was a good head coach for that team. Let's try to recreate that, whereas Philly fans look at it and be like this guy is the, the, what they call the coordinator merchant, and then he's essentially just, these guys are just running away as fast as they can to get get a better job.
Speaker 1:I think he's done. I think they're going to fire him.
Speaker 2:Sirianni no, they would have done it already.
Speaker 1:I feel like they're meeting tomorrow, right, isn't the plan to meet tomorrow? For Monday, I think so.
Speaker 2:But typically two days, two or three days after your game. So Steelers did it today, cowboys did it yesterday and yesterday. Yeah Well, here's, here's my dream scenario. We've already talked about Rable to the Steelers. That's one piece. Bella check to the Eagles would be so good, so funny to see those two fan bases, like Eagles fans, like embrace, bella check just in spite of the Patriot fans, and then Patriots fans having to turn around and watch Bella check because he, they have the P, like they have the roster right, like Cali Roseman has done a great job. I mean, that's not the problem there. The problem is obviously whatever the heck happened at the end of the year, but that would be hilarious. No, no one else thinks Bella check on the Eagles would be funny, I think it would be hilarious if he did go there and maybe he started out.
Speaker 1:You know one, two, three and oh, but just finished like six and 11, six and 12. He wouldn't, let me just turn on him immediately. Yeah, he'd be about. Yeah, cool, bobby Petrino, just leave.
Speaker 2:See, then it's like where is Bella check going to go? Like where is the right fit? You said chargers, I mean yes, but just the only. What about a? He's not going to go to the Panthers.
Speaker 4:He's the most attractive team right now as a head coach to go to.
Speaker 1:What about? Um, we haven't, we haven't mentioned, uh, coach Harbaugh. What about him? You would, you like him in Pittsburgh? No, no, really.
Speaker 2:The only reason and it's optics, the only reason I'd want him in Pittsburgh is a divisional rival with his brother, but I'm just awesome at all, because his brother's in your division.
Speaker 4:Wouldn't that make you like the Ravens just a little bit more? No?
Speaker 2:nothing's going to make me like the Ravens Well, it's also a bit of a listen to his other brother so that's also.
Speaker 4:yeah, that's not the right question, but wouldn't the rivalry would like, to a certain extent, less than a little bit, just because the coaches aren't going to hate each other?
Speaker 2:I think that would induce the rivalry Right. I think you know you've already got the Steelers Ravens and let's, let's be honest, the Steelers and Ravens are the AFC North rivalry, right. So Bengals, oh my God.
Speaker 1:Oh, coming at you, andrew, okay.
Speaker 2:I know it was like man, they go to the down here, but hey, we still got Joe Burrow the Browns. But I think if you take the Steelers and Ravens and then you put brother to brother, that enlarges the rivalry.
Speaker 4:Oh, that'd be awesome.
Speaker 2:That's what I thought you would want. Okay, so Vegas hasn't confirmed. What's his name? Pierce Antonio Pierce. Yeah, I don't man, if they don't, they literally. So I thought Rick Bacchiat, or what's his name, starts with the B Bacchiat. Bacchiat.
Speaker 2:Bacchiat. Yeah, I thought he was the right guy. I mean that guy literally took over the job, milled the season fruit and gets fired because of whatever and then Henry Ruggs kills the person, goes to jail. I mean literally had to somehow get that team to the playoffs and they were like in the game they almost beat the Bengals before the Bengals go to the Super Bowl, and then they don't even give them the job. I just couldn't believe. I was like, as an interim, what more do you have to do? Right, that's just his mother's name.
Speaker 2:It's the second time around, right, because they made the mistake of not getting him hiring him. They get McDaniels which God, that's another one where it's like, why is that? He got another head coaching? Try, he's awful. But back to the Belichick thing, just to sidebar him and McDaniels, though, that little combo together, that's really. That makes it interesting, right? But if you're Michigan, so you're not leaving Michigan to go to Carolina, you're not leaving Michigan to go to, probably, atlanta. I mean, again, harbaugh is probably either I want Vegas or the Chargers or I'm staying in Michigan, right, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1:Maybe Chicago, do you think, because Big Cat was mentioning that. I mean, if you wanted to keep him up, you could hypothetically we're talking hypothetically, or is he locked in for next year?
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's locked in yeah, they're just looking for an OC. I mean that's another guy where it's like he's better as a defense coordinator. Like I just wish that these owners and these GMs from West Park could really like it's pretty clear which coaches are coordinators and which coaches are good head coaches. Like, just because you're a good coordinator doesn't mean you're a good head coach. And one of the teams just yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean all bowls is another example of this. I mean we're proud what we got to do. I guess we're going to extend tide bowls after this season, probably with, if we're talking, bucks, baker and bowls.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean he. I think he's best suited as a defensive coordinator. Yeah, but definitely.
Speaker 2:How aggressive do you think bucks will be at trying to resign Baker? Oh, I think really. I think they love Baker. Yeah, I think Baker will get at least a three to five year contract.
Speaker 4:I feel like ball reports Baker wants to be here. Yeah, so it's why, wouldn't you know a?
Speaker 2:retin. I mean, if you've got you eat franchise, yeah Right, Ohio or Tampa Florida. Where the hell do you want to be Like the guys had? What eight head coaches did they say?
Speaker 3:and his first three season, four, six years yeah three teams, yep For two kids.
Speaker 2:I mean, he is probably so Relieved to just have continuity, to just be like, okay, I'm gonna be here for a while. And he probably is the same way with having bowls. He's like, let's just run it back, let's do it again and it honestly, as a bucks fan, I'm down with it because look at their division, it's not going anywhere. Like, I'm not scared of any NFC South team, okay if the Falcons, if the Falcons do get Belichick, okay. Then I'm a little worried because then I'm like what's up, what's going on here? But I don't believe that's real. Yeah, so I mean, even if you go your division quarterback she got Baker, car Bryce, young stick with Brick, young, desmond Ritter like what's on Ritter? Yeah, so you're a high-nike, easily the best out of all of them. Yeah, I love man, I love what the Saints are doing. It is so awesome.
Speaker 1:To see like sit down meet.
Speaker 2:The Saints are my year rate. Like you hate the Ravens, I hate the Saints. Like that's my team, I made it. Yeah, it is so awesome to see Dennis Allen. Is it done as Allen, or what's his name?
Speaker 1:No, Dennis.
Speaker 2:Allen, dennis Allen, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just run that team into the ground over and over Like they're stuck with their car. Who's terrible? They won't play James, which is awesome, because the last thing I want them to do is play James, and he's really good because that was our guy, you know like don't forget the mutiny for the last weekend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the mutiny. So clearly don't even like their coach. Oh my gosh, it's so good that was them that ran. They're supposed to take a knee. And then it's Smith and was like I'm sorry, I'm not too, yeah it was wishbone wishbone offense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, they have curious, I'm curious, because I know, andrew and Corey, we all hate the Saints. Do you? Do you dislike the Saints as a Steelers fan, or are they just another team to you? It's just Matt, they're just there.
Speaker 4:I hate him.
Speaker 2:No one team. I think if we're going non division teams that I hate. I mean I'm really patriots. Patriots, right, that's your number one. I think my Philly hate is truly more Just because of geography. Yeah, yeah. No, that's so fun, that's so funny because, you know, I talked to Steelers fans. I just have never and I think it was a generation thing, right, so I've never in my time watching Football hated the Cowboys. I'm a huge Dak fan, like. I think Dak is just an absolute class act. I really like Dak Prescott.
Speaker 2:I really yeah, I don't think I've ever heard someone say that.
Speaker 4:As a person, you mean yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, okay, sorry it up until up until the wild per game.
Speaker 4:He had a phenomenal season this year, for the most part using and he was the for owner of MVP, like the latter half of the season at one point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm trying to think like hated non division team aside from the Patriots. I mean my hot take right now is I Just can't stand the Chiefs. I just I wanted so badly in the lose last week and now I hope Buffalo just goes and destroys them that I. I'm so glad you said that because to me the first Patrick Mahomes year when they went up against the Patriots and they lost that overtime game Like I really want, I was rooting hard for the Chiefs. I love, I like that team. They were fun to watch. Tyreek Hill, mahomes, kelsey, like yeah, so exciting. This version of the Chiefs where they have no web, like like the receivers suck. Kelsey's like super distracted doesn't mean I guess is worse career, terrible season. He's had this career and it's just Mahomes is now like I like that guy and then now he's like become this annoying.
Speaker 2:They're doing for flags, complain about officials always playing victim, right like, and I just I got like Andy. I can't be read because he's you know, it's Andy read. But Mahomes to me is just rub me the complete wrong way. This year I've turned. I'm with you, I've turned the Chiefs like I root against them. Now, yep, thank you. Hope Josh Allen goes. You know, takes that field on that games. What Sunday, yeah. I'm the last game.
Speaker 2:Yep, I hope he gets there and just remembers Mahomes coming up to him at the end of that regular season game where he's just like not, not good game, not you know a good job, it was just bullshit call, bullshit call. You should just say that that'd be so funny. Just replay that on a loop. He should make a play. Call call, bullshit Call. They should just be called. Everything should be cadoury. Is Tony? Cadoury is doing like, yeah, they're receivers especially. What an absolute collapse. I mean, there might be some hope in the right, but yeah.
Speaker 4:He's awesome.
Speaker 2:Right, it's just good. But you know, I don't know how you stick with Tony, I don't know how you stick with about a scantling. I mean, yeah, she rice pretty good. Yeah, yeah, that's the only bright spot.
Speaker 4:Yeah, did, uh, did sky more, even play. Did he have a catch?
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh dude, what a bust.
Speaker 4:He did not have a catch replay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, no, I mean I. What worries me about this weekend with the Bills Chiefs as One, is the is this good at game game? I mean so much more for the Bills and the in. The Chiefs are playing with house money, right, the Chiefs come in, they're going on the road, they're underdogs, which I'm a gosh I say how many times does that happen? And then you got the Bills who are like Don't fuck it up, don't, don't do what we did last year, like don't do what we did. Like last year. That's what it felt. Like the Bengals went in there Rolling house money and they just demolished the bills.
Speaker 2:That's what makes me nervous about Sunday. What's uh? I'm gonna look at the Buffalo forecast for next or for Sunday. It's just cold from what I saw. The interesting one, if we're talking weather for this weekend, be on the lookout the winds and Baltimore on Saturday Like they're expecting like 35, 40 mile an hour winds, just getting it now. So that means it'll probably move to ball. It's like we're just getting the beginning of it, so it'll last here till about Friday, into Saturday, and it'll probably move down into Maryland. So yeah, you're right, the winds, but that's a I don't know. I feel like that's an advantage for Texans. What? No, they're not there. It's gonna be the Ravens. That's Ravens. Football from the football, don't throw. Yeah, I mean Justin Tucker, you think it like field goals. Oh, what's his name? Mark Andrews might be back to. Yeah, that's what's crazy. Practice this week in full. Yesterday, I think I saw Yep, yep, so we want to do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're starting to start recapping the games. Just go through chronologically and see kind of what we like. Yeah, congrats. By the way, congratulations to Victor, the only person on the podcast that did pick the Texans to win. We all pick the Browns, every single one of us. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, but I said it, I wanted to. I just wanted flack out to go back to Baltimore. So bad so bad, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh my gosh, I was. I was like trying to make it happen. But what a collapse, right like he rode that high horse in. I mean he was looking good. I Like that he was looking good He'd be. I Remember I was a coupe CJ and I'm just like looking at this TV and I'm just like what's happening? Like they put something my drink. Like what is going on here? I could not believe he had six sixes.
Speaker 1:Like in, like what four plays, or something like. Yep, I like it back to back twice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I see I wanted that game. But like this week, like beat the Texans and then do that in Baltimore, that would have been funny. Yeah, but gosh, and that's no Browns like I. We were talking about Lions there getting finally getting their roses. The Browns man like that is like you have a great season. You battle all these injuries, or quarter.
Speaker 2:What Quarterbacks you lose, your yeah yeah fact. A number one running back we can. That's running back in AFC North. And yeah, this is right, there's a Steelers game. You got hurt, yeah, week two, I think yeah.
Speaker 4:It was a Mica Fitzpatrick that hit him, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2:Yep, it's bad, but I mean, come on, like the Browns, like their defense was awful too, like it. Yeah, you could say Joe flacco, through two picks, sixes, but still like CJ Straub, just tore them up. Yeah right.
Speaker 4:I mean we bet that the Browns defense would be good and they were not, and that's yeah.
Speaker 1:I know what happened, yeah, it turns out, cj Straub is pretty good DJ.
Speaker 2:Straub lost. Who do you lose in that game? One of his receivers? Well, tank Dells been out and Dells been out, and then there was Nico Collins is still good. No a brown. There was a Robert Woods or no Brown. Oh. Brown, he's done. Yeah, he's down to Nico Robert Woods yeah, yeah. Yeah so well, look at this game plus nine.
Speaker 1:I like Texans plus nine. You like Texans plus nine?
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, I think it's on the Ravens big time. I think Ravens roll time. See, here's what I think happens every year. I think we get to the divisional round and we forget about the one seeds. We forget like we just watched the wild card and they were sitting at home. We forget how good the Ravens are, how good the 49ers are. We just Texans are awesome. No, the Texans were like a average team all year. They're going to play the Ravens, who were the best team in football, yeah, but are they the best team in the playoffs, though over the past few years, yeah.
Speaker 4:Lamar's got to keep his mouth in order he does.
Speaker 2:And, andrew, I'll tell you this right now I think had the Steelers found a way to beat the Bills, steelers would be going to the AFC championship. I agree with that. Oh, oh, I agree, hey it's hard to be at the same team three times Because they would have had to beat the Ravens three times to do it. No, I mean, I know, I just think, had the Steelers one last week. By no means would it be a cake walk, but I think the Steelers would have been making it to the AFC championship.
Speaker 1:That would have been wild. Can you imagine if it was like Steelers and Bucks Championships on day? Who would have thought that?
Speaker 2:Who would have thought, yeah, look at us, that's the meme right there.
Speaker 1:But what does everyone else think I got? I got Houston plus nine. I might sprinkle a little Houston money line. I think they're gonna play well.
Speaker 2:Oh, what's that Digging Texans money line if weather conditions are Suitable for?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I agree, anybody you guys on Ravens minus nine, Andrew, yep.
Speaker 2:I like them by two. Top sounds on my teeth To my left sounds yeah, I think I think this game is over by half time. So wrong, dude. I think you guys don't realize how good the Ravens are. They're really good.
Speaker 1:This is what they do.
Speaker 2:It's really good and it's a rookie quarterback going on the road like, yes, I don't think you can just say this
Speaker 1:is a rookie quarterback though. Yeah, you can't say rookie quarterback anymore.
Speaker 4:This is one of the most historically great rookie quarterbacks We've ever seen in football.
Speaker 2:I don't think we can really.
Speaker 4:I.
Speaker 2:Will, I will, I will say if he beats the Ravens next this weekend, cj. Strauss is the greatest rookie. This is the greatest rookie year ever.
Speaker 4:I think yeah, I can order back if he beat out Jersey.
Speaker 2:But what? You gonna buy a Stroud Jersey if they beat the Ravens me. No, I can't be. I hate the city of Houston. Man, the Astros, that's it. This is what pissed me off about the bastard. Like the freaking Houston fans, they have all the Astros cheating shit and then they, you know, forget about that. We're gonna win another world series. And then they get the freaking Texans to bounce back so quick.
Speaker 1:I mean gosh Miko Ryan's, he's awesome. Yeah, I do like to make. Oh, he's good.
Speaker 4:Cory, what's your pick? What do you like? I'm going Texas and Texans in the points. I think it's close. I think the Texans defense has been trending, so that's why I think it's close, but I think the Ravens win okay, victor, you were absolutely right about the Texans last week.
Speaker 1:Are you riding with them again this week, or do you think this is the end of line? I Think it's gonna be end of the line. I think it'll be close. I think it's gonna be like a low-scoring game Under, like Texans plus nine. Yeah, okay, I'm so good about my pick now I Think I'm gonna have to win too. I think, yeah, I don't win really that's correct.
Speaker 2:I think you guys are forgetting how good the Ravens are. The Ravens went to Sam Fray to beat the Niners. Okay, regular season, that was three weeks ago or whatever. It was like Christmas, right, that was like four weeks ago.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're just been coasting. We'll see. It doesn't matter what you do in the regular season.
Speaker 4:Some people are saying the mark Andrews mark Andrews makes the Ravens worse.
Speaker 1:Some people are saying that. I think they are likely on the bench.
Speaker 2:Please awesome to tight ends man I can't CC.
Speaker 4:I think it's awesome.
Speaker 2:I just can't believe you guys are all hating on the Ravens. I mean, literally. Think about this. If we were having this discussion a week ago before the Texans beat the Browns and I said, okay, texans, ravens, who do you like? You guys would have been all Ravens for a role, but it's just because they beat the Browns.
Speaker 1:I've been saying the Ravens are gonna lose in the divisional round for at least a month.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean, they did the last time they were one seed Omar's got what one playoff. One playoff win for Lamar. Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's not elite. Baker is too.
Speaker 4:I think the Ravens win. I just want, I just want to clarify that it's not by nine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but so Chris is picking the Texans to win. Steven, are you picking the Texans to win or just cover Win so we okay, all right, I think it's close.
Speaker 1:I think it's like Texans win by. You know three or four points on my top.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna lock this in now because I'm filming so good about the Ravens.
Speaker 1:This is a good thing, stephen. For us this is good. That's good. He's on the.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know, steven, if you're following sports broves Twitter, but been on a heater and college basketball Casino probably less dude, if you post them and you're telling me you'll hit, I'll copy them, but I couldn't tell you single thing about college or pro basketball. So when that part of the conversation starts, I'll probably. And yeah, I got you, even though right now looks like the part was gonna die because Michigan State's only up by two with three minutes ago.
Speaker 1:So I know it told you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cory Jinxton, you the, you the bookie this year. Well, they got hard rock now, so I don't have to do everything, that's right. Yeah, that's why, all right. So I told you, cj, I know you're gonna see a Disharm hit me at the beginning of the year and he was like hey, I need you to place some bets for me. And I was like that's cool, this year I'm charging 10% of your winnings. If you lose, no big deal. If you win, I want 10%. And he was like, man, I just bought a house, I can't, can't be doing this. And I was like, dude, you hit like two grand last year and then I got docked on taxes for. So, yeah, I'm charging 10% this year. And he's like all right, that's fair. And Mam sure was even the same way. So he was like that's fine.
Speaker 2:He plays a bet 10% of my winnings but all right what's our game?
Speaker 1:We get on that game. Moving on to the next one Yep, yep, we got Packers 49ers.
Speaker 4:I think this is a come down to earth for Jordan Love a little bit yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I think the 49ers roll Yep Minus yeah.
Speaker 4:I think they do too. Is that what it is?
Speaker 1:Nine and a half. Nine and a half yeah.
Speaker 4:Over 50 and a half.
Speaker 1:I like the under on that.
Speaker 2:What's the over? I don't. I think they're going to beat him by like 30. Like, I think. I think I think Saturday's going to be a bunch of blowouts but Sunday's going to be good.
Speaker 1:You know I'm really nervous for as if the Packers win and the Bucks have a chance to host, we are absolutely losing 100.
Speaker 2:Yes, We'll be on Saturday? All of my money, yeah, yes, yes. That is a great point, chris. If the Packers somehow win, I will be putting all of my money on the Lions, because there's no chance. The Bucks are hosting an FC Championship game Every while. Can you imagine going? For the first time in franchise history? Mind you, they've never hosted the city in FC Championship game. Imagine this team. We have this team with Baker Mayfield hosting an NFC Championship game, with a quarter mil on the line and trip to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1:What's he get? A quarter mil for each playoff Episode. Yeah, See championship Green Bay right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they went up to Green Bay. Yeah, a little bit of. Then, when they won in the Super Bowl and go to, they went to Philly. Okay, shut the bet down. Yep, that's it for our lifetime have you got a goal.
Speaker 4:Have you guys thought about the fact that the NFC South has lasted longer in the season than the NFC East? Oh yeah, yes, the NFC released it every day, oh, every day.
Speaker 1:So we're all taking 49ers.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think, see, I apply the same logic that I did against with the Ravens to the 49ers. Like everyways, forget how good 49ers are. Everybody's like oh, packers demolished the Cowboys To me. You had two teams collapse last week Browns, cowboys. They both fell on their face like they normally do in the playoffs. That's why the Texans and Packers won, so yeah. I think 49ers are gonna. Yeah, I like.
Speaker 2:Now I will say this Aaron Rodgers was only four against the Packers with the Packers against the 49ers in the playoffs. If Jordan Love goes in there and beats them, that's just a good thing. If Jordan Love goes in there and beats them, that's hilarious. I love that. Yeah, just as another dig to Aaron Rodgers If Jordan Love is able to go there and beat them.
Speaker 1:Can you imagine if the Packers won the Super Bowl? Oh man, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:Oh, that would be so funny, oh my gosh. Yeah, what's? I don't think that's happening.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, I guess there's really not much to this game other than the 49ers are Good. We kind of expect them to be good with the game, so.
Speaker 2:If Dak was just competent in the first half, like if he was just playing average, then I think that was actually. That would have been a competitive game. But because Dak was just horrible and like had no communication with with CD lamb and everything was off their gameplay was terrible yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, him and CD lamb, where it looked like they were arguing or had no idea what they were doing, and they what had? Touchdowns and a straight games. It looked like they had no idea what they were doing, like they just got back from injury or something.
Speaker 2:Something happens, there's some, there's something going on behind the scenes before that game that, no, we don't know about. Something had to happen, like that team doesn't just show up like that. That was the game. See, went over to lamb on the bench and started talking to him right, oh yeah, they were. They were visibly fighting. Yeah, on the from the sidelines.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, Like Hurts and Goddard. Did you see that? Yeah? I just yeah, I was wondering what that was all about. Yeah, yeah. Well, should we move on to the? Game the wick in the years. You have a vision around Sunday 3 o'clock at Detroit Just like we all, addicted, get out like we all thought it's that outside I don't remember. Man, we got, we got to put the Todd Bowles clip in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just like we all thought began the season, the bucks are gonna be playing the NFC divisional round.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, yeah, it's the lions. So I think Steve Bucks plus six and a half, or lions minus six and a half, the unbiased party I'd like to get your take here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know, I've been on a here with underdog is this year. Oh, oh, I like to hear. I gotta go bucks.
Speaker 1:I love bucks. Six and a half I think it'll be I think it'll be touchdown.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, you're inside there's. There's no element there's. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I bet bucks this past weekend and it worked. And I bet Steelers and it worked, so we're doing all right. It was Steelers plus 15 and a half, so I was gonna say they did not cover. So I don't know what line you got yeah, they're missing that field goal at the end. Sealed it. Then I had bucks plus seven and a half, which was an awesome.
Speaker 2:Oh, so you didn't actually bet the box. You tease the box.
Speaker 1:Had the bucks plus seven and a half.
Speaker 3:Great bet that was a good Smart losing heart breaking fashion.
Speaker 2:I still got my money and this weekend you could tease him to plus 14.
Speaker 1:No, I'll be electric. Well, if you give me a plus 12. I like that.
Speaker 2:I think, though I think they'll keep it within two touchdowns. I Don't think we're gonna cover six and a half. I like the Lions, yeah, the me like. This is where I don't know. It's kind of weird. Like you have the Lions storybook season and Baker Mayfield storybook season, someone is the clock is gonna strike midnight for one of these two teams, and I Don't. I think the Lions are just a more of a complete team at home, though that fan that's. What I worry about is that environment is going to be Crazy. Like tickets are like in the thousands to get in. Like it's insane expensive game ever. It was nuts last week, so can only that. Did you see the clip that was like during the pregame show, like a full hour and a half before kickoff, and the stadium was like 80% full, wow it was the craziest.
Speaker 2:It was like I think you don't roll that said something. Hey, it's cold outside but yeah, but like people in their seats, like usually, like the people just hanging around the concourses and whatnot. No people were like in their seats, ready to go like an hour before the game.
Speaker 1:What if they went with the bucks when that game?
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh. Well then we're getting destroyed by Sam Frantan. I mean, so it's yeah, and Packers, when it's in Tampa, otherwise it's out Sam Frantan. Yep, it's a Tampa, yeah, that's why I look at this and they lose, get crushed. You won't put a Super Bowl favorite in. Do it on the Niners right now. You're not gonna get them at a better value than right now. I think they're like plus 200. I Got them in that moonshot parlay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, niners. I just I think everything opens up for the Niners. Like to me, dallas was their biggest competitor in the NAC.
Speaker 1:I've been in a feature on the Kansas City. Just hope it doesn't hit. Then the what plus and now yeah they're.
Speaker 2:They were 10 to 1 before the playoffs. I think now they're like around 6 or 5 to 1. Yeah, I mean that's.
Speaker 2:I just Do but well, we talked the script like NFL's got a script like if the if the chiefs make it to the Super Bowl, like not win the Super Bowl, just make it to the Super Bowl. Something's going on, there's something fishy. We're talking officiating, we're talking fixes, I don't know, but they're this team like, oh my gosh, if the bills don't win this game, america's team. They are this weekend. I think so. Yep, are we moving on to that one?
Speaker 1:Yeah, what are we Corey? What did you think?
Speaker 4:Yeah, pretty much exactly what Andrew's thinking. I'm Detroit. I Feel like, if this is, this is kind of like Whole NFL narrative, historic NFL narrative in the Bucks are not going to be the ones to to stop that. So yeah, yeah, I think, to touchdowns, ish.
Speaker 1:I think it's close. Victor, what do you think about this game? I think it could be when a touchdown.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean.
Speaker 2:I could all, I could all say the Lions Winning on like a last, I can feel, or something like in fourth quarter the two touchdowns. Yeah, you just said no. No, I could see that. I don't think that's gonna happen, but I could see that.
Speaker 1:But I could see the winning by two touchdowns the Bucks Alliance oh yeah, I think imagine the Bucks win by two. You said the.
Speaker 2:Lions are not.
Speaker 4:By two touchdowns.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did think they could beat the Eagles like they did. I thought the Eagles were playing so poorly at the end of season I thought that was just a dead man walking. Yeah, like I think any team could have beat the Eagles catastrophic collapse.
Speaker 3:I was a little man, sort of ten and out it not ten and one one.
Speaker 2:Ten and one, yep. After they beat the Bills and that crazy overtime game in the rain, they won what? Two games at the end of the season? That's it be the Giants. Yeah, you won't get no one game down the stretch, I think. Yeah, giants beat them too. Yeah, that's, oh my gosh, all right game of the week.
Speaker 1:America's game Yep um, I Love the Chiefs to win this game. I think plus three is an easy bet. Chiefs won this game. It's my home's. It's what my home's does. This is what the bills do. I'll be rooting for the bills, but I think this is gonna be a huge letdown spot.
Speaker 2:Sorry, I'm just taking bills. I'm just taking bills. Money line Could be a shootout. You think they win. I think the bills win. I think they finally pull through.
Speaker 4:I hope they do, but I think the game being in Buffalo is very significant. I think the bills are Playing some of their best football right now. Chiefs are probably not agree. They just beat the Dolphins in the cold Dolphins finesse bitch team. So I think yeah, yeah kind of this is kind of like the oh yeah, the Chiefs actually aren't that good this year, and we see why, so I'm taking Buffalo. I.
Speaker 2:Look at this game and Look at the bills and their fans. I just, if they lose to the Chiefs again In the playoffs and now they got them at home, right, like I feel like every bills cheese game has been in Kansas City for whatever reasons, like NFL, like what are we doing? They're always send their head. This is their moment. This is it. Man Like this is. I thought last year, was it, but you know now I'll know what happened there this year. You got you're on this. This run to you somehow win the division, you get the two-seat. I mean they were freaking out the playoff race. Yep, like in week 12. It was insane that what they had to do to get there. If they don't win this game, though, man, like, blow it up. I, I do you like you have, we almost have to right. Like when you were saying are there any other coaching vacancies that could open up? I mean, if, if, mcdermott, if so, if they lose and it's like not close, I think this is, this is all in vacancy, yeah.
Speaker 1:I agree, I agree.
Speaker 4:That's tough. Yeah, I guess the time you mentioned it too earlier, the timing of the coaching market to, if there was ever gonna be a Good opportunity to change something up. Bill Bellachick, that's that's tough oh. No way.
Speaker 2:If it can, if a vacancy opens in Buffalo, though, like that's gotta be where grapes goes right yeah, I think it would. I mean it would be the best job. Yeah, yeah, yeah, bring Derek Henry, yeah, yeah. Wow. Yeah, so I. I Went, left my gut and I put a pretty reasonably sized wager for myself on two and a half, I Guess, chris, and in your I did a five-unit play with your unit count.
Speaker 1:It's okay, my unit is five bucks I.
Speaker 2:Didn't go too crazy because I don't like betting early in the week, I like by betting late in the week. But I just had a gut like a knee jerk reaction when the schedule came out and I was like Putting this on the line if the bills don't win this game, it's over. Like this is a must, like this is the biggest must win for that franchise ever. Like. And then I will say this if they do beat the chiefs, I'm turn around and I'm flipping it and I'm putting whoever they're playing, putting the money on them, because this is the super goal for the bills. They will get up for this game. I worry about the letdown spot the week after. So I I think the bills win this week. I think they will lose the next week.
Speaker 4:No, I think it's the Texans. Yeah, what if it's the Texans? It's not the Texas.
Speaker 1:But CJ Stroud is a rookie.
Speaker 2:It's not going to be the Texans. I'm just, I'm sorry. It's not going to be the Texans, it's going to be the Ravens. It's the Ravens 49er Super Bowl Lock it in. All right, we already saw the script, it finished. I was, I'm going to bring, I'm going to bring that up, but finish the, finish the predictions here real quick.
Speaker 1:Vic, what do you got on this last game? Bill's, bill's chiefs, I'm going. Chiefs plus three. I think they win, though Go, go, bill's with the points. Oh, let's go. Okay, so you all three of you guys are on, or see, are you on bills Minus three as well. Okay, so just me All, right, okay.
Speaker 2:So going to the, going to the predetermined Super Bowl? Do you guys believe in any of this conspiracy theory of Super Bowl logos and the colors that are in there and Yep, yep, yeah, that's exactly why this is red and purple, bucks, bucks.
Speaker 4:Bucks.
Speaker 2:If it's the box dude, holy shit, what is that I got? They didn't even have Super Bowl matchup odds anymore. They might not, but, oh my God, we got to get a Pantone check on those colors. Now, speaking of that, Stephen, did you see where they released an alternate logo and there was that whole narrative about, oh, the alternate logo. It looks like it's going to be chiefs cowboys, because it was blue? I didn't see red bills yeah, bills Bucks, there you go, you sure? Or fails 49ers? Yeah, everybody thought bills when that went up.
Speaker 1:Bucks are 10 to 120 NFC If you parlay them and do Ravens, Ravens and Bucks.
Speaker 2:Oh, here it is. Super Bowl matchups. Yep, they do have them. Ravens Bucks is 22 to one.
Speaker 1:I was saying that. I'm sorry, I was literally saying that same thing 22 to one.
Speaker 2:Bills Bucks is 34 to one.
Speaker 1:Texans Bucks 14,200. Yeah, 101.
Speaker 2:Strauss would keep you, though that's so embarrassing for the Bucks. The Texans Bucks is a bigger long shot than Texans Packers. They think the Packers are better.
Speaker 1:What's the? Same. Yeah, they're different because I got Bucks and Packers at 10 to one. Oh, I know 140.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Let me see what is Baker's Super Bowl MVP 40 to one Baker Super Bowl MVP Wow.
Speaker 1:Travis Kelsey, 10,000 to one oh.
Speaker 2:So when Super Bowl MVP? I don't know about that. Wow I mean that's script worthy. That is script worthy. That's a good point, Kelsey, but he's had such a bad year. That's the other thing Like this is all the one distraction for him. Right.
Speaker 2:Here's what's going to happen Chiefs are going to make it, travis is going to have a meh first half. Taylor's going to show up out there with Usher at halftime and then Kelsey's in the second half. Mvp. Did you guys see? I think it was like earlier in the season that this girl had like a Tic Taco viral where she like just scripted the whole year talking about what was going to happen in the NFL because of Taylor Swift's involvement now with the K&C Chiefs, and her prediction was that they would be a rematch in the Super Bowl Chiefs Eagles and then halftime the Chiefs would be winning and then she would, because this girl was the Eagles fan. So then Taylor Swift would break up with Kelsey At halftime so that Kelsey's upset and frustrated and the Chiefs would blow the lead, that Eagles would come back and win the Super Bowl. Did he retire or not, travis? Yeah, Did he actually retire?
Speaker 2:Did he say it on the podcast? I thought he he like I don't know if he. He backtracked a little, but yeah, I think he's done. He should have just said it right after the game Like, hey, I'm done.
Speaker 1:I bet if they fire Sirianni and bring in someone and he likes who that is, he'd come back. Well, he comes back. I think he's done it, sirianni's coach for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, is AJ Brown retiring Because Sirianni he? Already did. Dude, I can't, oh my gosh, I just what happened. That team is just amazing. That was awesome. Just to see it, they were the hard knocks team. That would have been funny Each episode. What did that last one? Oh my gosh, what an appointment television watching. What happened to them that week? How did they lose the Cardinals? What the? I'll tell you why they lost the Cardinals. That's because, uh, tyler Murray strolled in and Sydney Karrowsky jersey, yeah.
Speaker 1:That was awesome. Yeah, it was so awesome. Is he? Is he like a fan of the penguins or was he just trolling? It was a troll?
Speaker 2:No, I don't even know where he's from, to be honest, I don't know either.
Speaker 1:That was awesome yeah. The fact that he won that game too, yep Good stuff.
Speaker 2:So who's your guy's Super Bowl pick? I already said mine. Let's update Super Bowl picks. I can match up, match up in the Super Bowl. I got Ravens 49ers. I've been on that since probably like December. I just thought those two teams separated.
Speaker 4:I'll go Bills, niners and Niners win.
Speaker 1:Yeah 49ers, chiefs, 49ers. When I'm going Bills 49ers, that'd be fun. It'd be a fun watch, yeah, who wins.
Speaker 2:My heart wants to say the Bills, but my brain's probably saying 49ers.
Speaker 1:If it's not the Bucks, I'd love to see Lions Bills. I think that would be so.
Speaker 2:Oh, that would be the most fun in Vegas. Lions and Bills fans in Vegas, oh my God. Paddle with the fan bases. Yeah, that's my dream Super Bowl prediction. I want that to happen.
Speaker 1:Not the Bucks. The Bucks run in your dream Super Bowl scenario. I couldn't even dream of them to be in the Super Bowl this year.
Speaker 2:man, they had me bought in when we had Brady. I could see that. You know, every game was just like it was like I don't even remember. Well, like our feeling at the time. We were like what is happening to this team Because the turnaround was so quick, but this year I don't, I don't, I don't see it. I mean, we watched that team put up nine points against the Panthers.
Speaker 1:They knew that's all that was needed, and we needed three, yeah, yeah. So, victor, what is your, what's your Super Bowl matchup?
Speaker 4:Niners bills. Okay. Good pick. Vic Winner Niners Great pick.
Speaker 1:So do we all have. I had Niners, victor had Niners. Yep, we all have Niners to win. I got Ravens To win.
Speaker 2:I think it's the Harbaugh year. Harbaugh's, we're gonna win college and pro no.
Speaker 4:That'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 2:What a, what a family dinner that would be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think what happens? I think Harbaugh goes the NFL because I think he's wanting to. He wanted to get one with his brother again. He wanted to get back in the ring. He's got the college football championship. Now he's got to get the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1:Yep, good news for Penn State. Maybe they might beat Michigan once.
Speaker 2:Well then, I'm playing next year, so oh, yeah, wait, do they not play next year? Oh, because we got USC UCLA taking their spot. We still play Ohio State next year. But yeah, you got to play Ohio State Michigan next year. We don't play that next year or the year after it's 26. We play Michigan again. Wow, holy crap, damn. I had not realized that college football is going to be so weird next year. I mean it's kind of like For two years. So yeah, I mean college football is going to be like you're recognizable.
Speaker 1:Were you worried about James Franklin taking the Alabama job? I?
Speaker 4:was going to ask that Damn it.
Speaker 2:I was going to drive him there myself.
Speaker 1:Drop Kenny off somewhere along the way.
Speaker 2:Kenny off in Carolina and keep driving down to Alabama. I love that. His agent like corrected the buyout. Did you see that tweet where they tweeted like the buyouts of all the coaches and like they had like it got tweeted? I think it was Pete Thamel, but like it, clearly the agent called him. It's like no, it's buyouts much higher than that.
Speaker 4:No they didn't include them.
Speaker 2:Oh, they took his name off. Is that what? What?
Speaker 4:They didn't have his name in and then they had to edit the tweet and include his buyout. That's awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what's crazy about that whole thing is. So Jimmy Sexton is the he's. I think it's. Yeah, I think that's his name. He's the agent for Saban, for Norvell, for who's the other guy that got the? He's Doe Bear. The guy that got the got got the job, dan Lanning, like he. He literally orchestrated everything that was going on there, got all of his guys raises and extensions, therefore gave himself raises, right, and then he gets the guy the job. I mean, it's just insane. Do you think Saban is done, done, yeah, yeah, I think he's done. I think I think college football has changed so much that you're the, the old guard is going to start facing out because it's just, yeah, it's not even the same sport right now.
Speaker 4:Well, you have to like there's a whole free agency now that you have to try to recruit from. Yeah, yeah. These coaches that are traveling all the time trying to keep guys, trying to get guys.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I could see Saban maybe going back to the pros Maybe, but no, I think he's probably good. I honestly I think he's going to be Lee Corso on college game day.
Speaker 4:I don't know if he's got the personality for anything like that. I don't know, I feel like he'll just like go out like a. Tv.
Speaker 2:It's terrible. It's terrible, so don't make it work. Who was that? Where he filled in for Collinsworth? Oh my God, that is so bad. What was the game? Oh my, I think it was Dungey and Jason Garrett doing a football game one time and it was like the worst broadcast you could possibly imagine. Oh my gosh, yeah, no, I think, I think.
Speaker 4:I feel like he'll just like hang around in the shadows and help.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dober like that. I just it's such a weird combination. Like this guy, what a come up for this guy. He's North Dakota guy, goes to Indiana as the offensive coordinator, gets panics to go to where he went where Fresno, I think he was there for it. And then he went to Washington, grabs panics, yeah, and then all of a sudden he's in the college football play up and then a year later he's coaching Alabama. I mean it's insane. What a career path in the last five years for him.
Speaker 4:So do we agree that Alabama is going to be terrible in like four years?
Speaker 1:Oh, I was thinking like four months.
Speaker 2:I was gonna say where are we gonna go?
Speaker 1:I think, I think there'll be a 500 football team this year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would say anyone that put a future on Georgia to win the title before saving retired. They got in the market such a good time because I think they were like four to one, five to one. Now they're like two to one. Yeah, the whole time I was just been like please go get Kirby, alabama, please go take Kirby. I see what I want, george. I just want everything. I'm so glad I'm not there when Georgia was good, like I was there when Mark Rick was there, so it was awesome. Like Mark Rick went you know one, nine, 10 games every year and always collapse at the end. It was awesome, but Kirby is just. They're the new Bama. That's what's so freaking. Annoying is that they are going to be Bama now for the next decade. It's a done deal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was like Bama Clemson and then now it's Georgia. Yeah, because you talk about adapting to the new game. There's an example of someone not adapting to the new game is Dabbo.
Speaker 2:That would have been so funny if Bama hired Dabbo. Their fan base just lost it. Like the city of Tuscaloosa is on fire.
Speaker 4:Really quickly. This is probably getting into a whole another episode, but let's not lose track of what Texas is doing. Texas is loading up right now. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, quinn, you were just coming back. Right, he's coming back I.
Speaker 2:Tor, you think Arch is going to. I just you think Arch is going to sit for two years, I think so. I guess I mean like it's making a million dollars as a backup in college. It's insane.
Speaker 4:I feel like if I mean I feel like Sarkeesian and like one of the Mannings is in his ear, a little bit to the point where if he wanted to come back and play, it's either approved by the Mannings or he'll transfer somewhere else. Yeah. I mean Arch is next. What a free agent that would be. Arch Manning on the move. If you're Sarkeesian, you make sure Arch Manning is happy. Before you were, right now yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what's Penn State looking like coming up for this year? They, he's going back right?
Speaker 2:Well, he can only go up from where he stops.
Speaker 1:Who's the who's the running back that you said, like last year or two years ago, was like the freshman next, saquon Andrew.
Speaker 2:Green saying that was Singleton Singleton.
Speaker 1:Is he a junior coming into this year? I think so, right yeah. Is he still a lead? Is he good yeah?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Penn State's always got the athletes. What's crazy is they finally got a five star quarterback, like a top tier quarterback, and he just I don't know what happened to him last year Like the dude, was just so just erratic. Like I praise God, big arm. He's just so inaccurate. How many games were you he's throwing? And you're just a dude. But who was that? Even to Right, when was that going? Yeah?
Speaker 2:He wasn't even like a you know he was short or he was. You know he overthrew the password or whatever it was dude, there's nobody over there.
Speaker 2:So I don't know, but here's the move for Penn State Go get Ken Dorsey. Convince Ken Dorsey to come back to college. He was the OC for Josh Allen. Okay, he got Josh Allen to be Josh Allen. He could do that with your hour. Well, they did go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I haven't even heard names floating around for they're thinking of yet, but I don't know. I don't even know who. Andy Cole to Nikki, I've never heard of this guy. That was your, that was your OC last year. Geez, yeah, you gotta get someone else in there. Well, we fired her OC and then lost her DC to Duke. Manny Diaz. Yeah, manny was a good coach. That's a. He's a good. Yeah, he's a good coach. Oh, here they is. Oh, never mind, ucla hired former Penn State quarterback Billy Fessler as their offense coordinator Interesting, yeah, no, I think. I think Ken Dorsey is a hot name for OC's, even in the NFL too. I still believe he's, he's good Like. Yeah, I don't know what happened in the beginning of the season with the Bills and they fired them and obviously it worked out for the Bills, but I still think he's a good coach. Maybe the Steelers I don't know, I'm outside the organization, so might be in play yeah, Whatever happened to real quick.
Speaker 1:Whatever happened to Chase Claypool? Like I didn't know it would happen to me. He just disappeared.
Speaker 2:This is hilarious Got the Claypool curse, you know. Claypool curse. Left. The Steelers went to the Bears, then the Bears sucked. Traded them to the Dolphins, then the Dolphins sucked. So if you look at before and after, team had a winning record. Dolphins yeah. Dolphins right now.
Speaker 4:Yeah, McDaniel's first press conference was like, how's Chase Claypool? And he's like, yeah, he's really fast.
Speaker 2:Yes. And that was basically, they made him tied in, though right Then they played him a tied in, did they? I thought they moved on that. Yeah, you have that drop in the end zone in that game against the Bills, weak 18 or whatever. Yeah, he's an awful man. He was like a rookie one hit wonder kind of guy like just great rookie year. Terrible. Like Michael Clayton there's a good name, there's a throwback Goat of rookie and nothing.
Speaker 1:He was awesome his first year in the uplift.
Speaker 2:Yep, yeah, I would not want that guy on my team. Geez, I still worry about picking sometimes. Stephen, he's got all the talent in the world. He's just a head case. Yep, yeah, I think that's why you need a Vrable. A Vrable, a Belichick one, that's like dude, I'm not afraid to bench your ass.
Speaker 2:The problem I think they had this year was they just had nobody else to put in there. But I think you know you build it up and you're saying dude, it's, you're sitting Like your antics and you're going on social media after what, three weeks into the season, and you're deleting all your stealer stuff. And then he comes down and says oh, he was. I don't even remember what he said, I was having a Count like that dude. But then you know he was the media spotlight up here. And then he came out and had that two touchdown game with Mason and who was that? Against Bengals, I think. Yeah, came out, had that game, and you know you could see him over there Bangles, bangles, chirp chirp me you know, talk about me or whatever, but I don't know.
Speaker 2:I by no means do I want to lose them. I want them to work on them.
Speaker 1:I love his stat line for that game for catches, 195 yards and two touchdowns. So what about? What about the auntie Johnson? Because remember midway through the year he was like quitting on plays.
Speaker 2:Well, he was all here without a single touchdown and then it's impressive.
Speaker 2:It's impressive this year, yeah, cause last game of the season last year he caught the two point conversion. That was his only reception, or scoring reception, I guess I should say. And yeah, I don't know he's, you know both him and Pickens have have both been, you know, kind of scrutinized for not blocking, not caring, not Not seeing the ball. Yeah, you know, especially, he's not a rookie anymore, you know he's, he's a veteran receiver and it's time to act like one. What about, um, what about Fryer Muth? Is he staying? Is he like under?
Speaker 1:contract. He's the guy. I think he's got one more year. Yeah, I think he has one more year.
Speaker 2:I like him. He, his problem is he's not a rookie anymore. He, his problem now is just injuries. I mean he's, he's getting a lot, so it's tough to say, but nobody you know beneath him has really has stepped up. I mean they, they got what Hayward and that Washington, and you know they're young, so maybe they'll you know, come to think. I hated when they got rid of Zach Gentry though, because he, you know, wasn't the best scoring tight end, but he did what he needed to. He blocked, he was, he was a big body out there, but who picked?
Speaker 1:him up. I don't even know who that is. Uh no, he's on the Raiders.
Speaker 2:I think he went to the lot. No, he went to the Bengals practice squad and then the Raiders picked him up when uh, what's his name Go hurt.
Speaker 1:Well, I think that about does it for us. Um, yeah, just wanted to ask, so you were on TV this weekend. No, what happened?
Speaker 2:there, maybe up here into the week. So uh, you know working the networks here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like this. This big time moment we had a television star on the show. Was that a big um?
Speaker 2:yeah, they were just. They were just lucky they caught me before the game and not halfway through when I was, you know, seemed pretty optimistic. In the video A couple of rumple men shots deep, but uh, yeah, it was. Uh, I was optimistic going in, but yeah, it was so funny.
Speaker 1:Because you're like, yeah, we just saw the packers do it. Uh, we could, we could totally do it. I'm like, oh, this must be well before the game started.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was well before the game started. But yeah, want to thank you for uh for having me on here. It's been fun.
Speaker 1:We're ever need a guest appearance on that, so yeah, maybe when we get down to uh NHL playoffs coming down that road, or maybe, as the uh, as the bucks keep wanting, we'll see, yeah, but uh, yeah, I think it does it for us. We let's make sure you had one last thing to say. Did I know Victor?
Speaker 2:Oh, victor's going to close us out? Yeah, on your. Is that just like a random find my iPhone?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I actually have no I it does like a screenshot of a map.
Speaker 1:I never noticed that, victor, you care to explain. It's just a random screenshot of a map.
Speaker 2:I think I did a few review on here and it was just like I was just playing around with the picture, it was like oh, this is the only picture I have on my phone right now.
Speaker 1:Nice, I'm taking this photo, yeah, well, yeah, no, yeah, I appreciate you having on. We can, uh, do it again, but I think that does it for us With that, with that, with that, with that.
Speaker 2:With that With that Go big blue, All right guys.