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"A Beacon of Love...Rabbi Greene Shares His Story"
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In this episode, we delve into the captivating journey of Rabbi Greene. Hailing from the vibrant city of Minneapolis, Rabbi Greene's background is marked by both academic excellence and a strong connection to his Jewish heritage.
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Stories of Enriching Connections and Faith
Speaker 1Good afternoon and welcome to everybody . The podcast which shares stories that highlight people in life , that make the world an interesting place , which ultimately ties us all together in unique and wonderful ways . And who am I , you might ask . I would be the headwrapped socialite Weith mom , micro-influencer in the fashion and etiquette world , but on this podcast I will be introducing you to some people who I've had the opportunity to meet along my journey , who have helped enrich me in my life in beautiful ways and who I hope will do the same with you .
Speaker 2The strength that we have from children Now as adults we can think about well , because it's important . So when they grow up , that's where it comes in , that spiritual , mystical , practical , but it's reality . We've seen the energy and effort that people make to capture the minds of the youth , but they're powerful in itself . There is actually a cute story with talking about the youth , what the youth can impact . I'll tell you about my daughter , who's presently in Israel .
Speaker 2So as a young girl , two years old so we have a guest that lives in Rochester and he came over for the Sabbath so she's going to entertain the guests while we're finishing getting ready . So he had just gotten his car refinished , new paint job , and my two year old he says is that your car ? And he says yeah , he thought she's admiring the paint job and whatever . And she says you shouldn't drive on Shabbos and he looks around , where's the adults ? He told her to say that and she's not doing it in your terrible person . She's just saying here's the fact . And it struck him that you said children get it . This is what it is . Because of this , this gentleman actually eventually moved close by so he wouldn't have to drive on the Sabbath . He was open to hear it .
Speaker 2The challenge we have very often with crazy our children we're not in an insular place and for sure , and many of my colleagues wherever they are the deeper lessons of teaching , of care and compassion . And it's about your response , to be able to encourage a person and give them the opportunity to observe , For sure , to be who they really are . That's it . You see , that goes in the mystical aspect . It's helpful to read the get-go , the scripture in the beginning . We are really good . I know there's other religious faiths that think a little bit differently or very differently , but that's how it is .
Speaker 1On today's episode we have an extraordinary guest who has dedicated his life to faith , community and healing . Rabbi David Green's journey is as fascinating as it is inspiring . Boran , raised in the vibrant city of Minneapolis , he comes from a rich academic lineage , with his father teaching at the graduate school for public health at the University of Minnesota . David's educational path was equally exceptional he attended the very first Orthodox Jewish parochial school in Minnesota , setting the stage for what I would say an incredible journey . My family and I have known Rabbi Green and his family for over 15 years and I'm excited to have him on today's episode . Welcome , rabbi Green .
Speaker 2Thank you , great to be here .
Speaker 1Thank you for being here . Could you tell the listeners a little bit about who you are ?
Speaker 2So I was born in Minneapolis and actually point out that my great grandparents are interred in the Minneapolis Jewish cemetery , so that makes me come from a line of long suffering Vikings fans . That's something true , although I can't say anything about gophers because from when I was young my parents became more observant and so I never would engage with college sports because we were observing the Sabbath . So the television was off on Sabbath and so never got a taste , so never got hungry . So I grew up in Golden Valley . Great friends in the neighborhood and those closest friends were a family that were not Jewish , so , and the father was actually our family doctor . So when I would go over to the house on the Sabbath to play , the father would be sitting watching the college football and he wouldn't chase me out saying this is not for you , you should be playing with the kids , it's , you know , this is not for you . So growing up , chased to the room that , the room where the Christmas tree was , it's okay , but it's not , it's the Sabbath , there's not what you do , but it was . So definitely enjoyed sports , definitely played it , but never engaged in organized sports , okay .
Experiences in a Jewish Educational Institution
Speaker 2So I grew up in at 15 , after going through that Torah Academy , the Jewish Procurel School , I was sent to the LeBavitch Yeshiva which is in Canada , in Quebec . In Quebec it was Collège Rabanique du Canada , which is rabbinical college of Canada . So I matriculated there in Canadian history . That was a tough year because it's not that interesting . But it's interesting to learn history from a different perspective , for sure .
Speaker 1Now , was it taught in French , or was it taught ?
Speaker 2Thank God I was one class ahead of that rule being applied in the school system because the class below me had to learn their secular subjects in in France . But anyway , the word Yeshiva is just , it's the word for high school . It was a high school and it continued to post high school studies and eventually the college portion , learning learning rabbinic ordination . The community in Quebec and Montreal specifically , is an old Jewish community and at the same time was a vibrant Jewish community . So the influx of meeting different people from different backgrounds , and not necessarily , I'm going to say in my classes , but the LeBavitch , which is a name of a town in White Russia , where the leaders of the Chabad School of Philosophy , of Hasidic philosophy , where the , the Reb is the , the , the , the leaders of these movement headquartered for 200 years . So hence it's , it's the name of the organization that we have is Chabad LeBavitch .
Speaker 2The Chabad is three words in Hebrew Chokhma , Bina Das , knowledge , wisdom , understanding . The Chabad movement was , which was founded by Reb Shnerzal Mevladi , incorporated a systematic understanding . It's not just all heart , it's well . I got to use brain and to use the mind , to devote and dedicate how and direct . So I was sent to that institution .
Speaker 1Would you mind sharing with the listeners how you do know that you were going to be a rabbi ?
Speaker 2Here's the personal story . So , after finishing high school and continuing on studies , I think the teacher had he was he's . I eventually found he's a great teacher for other things . But I just was where am I going ? Where is this going ? It's quote , unquote , the system . So my parents sent me over there as I continued . So the perpetual motion kind of starts to slow down . Where am I now ? And a lot of my friends are going on and and so who am I ? Where am I going with this ? They I mean they transferred to other places because they were . Then they were sent .
Speaker 2I have a lot of contemporaries in my class that were said to be to study in Caracas for a couple of years . But I was a matriarch and eventually I turned to my teacher that was taught me in in in 10th and an 11th grade and I just asked him a question . I said what , where am I with that , was he thinking ? And he , he said well , he says what's wrong ? You don't have to be , you don't have to make a career out of this . There's plenty of people that are good Jews , they're fine and dandy , they're wonderful . And he didn't want to get , he wasn't doing the psychological analysis . What is making you think this , that you have to do this . You don't have to , don't ? You don't have to put that on yourself . However , I do recommend that you don't leave until you have that piece of paper , you , because then you will feel good about all the time you spent and you have a baby , have a diploma on the wall . So you have to . I said you know what sounds good , sounds good .
Speaker 2So I I got into the program of learning and then , once I started doing that , I said it was . There was a couple of things that came at the same time . To be able , first of all , learning for a goal completely changed things for me . I was saying you just made the fist with both feet . And once you're doing this , there's another factor that the in this movement , in this and this system that that it was in they do not give you a test . Therefore , there's a number of tests that you have to go through of different subjects . As you go through them , you're not permitted to take a test unless you have a signed permission slip From what's called the mashbiyah in Yisheva .
Speaker 2The mashbiyah of Yisheva is the spiritual counselor . Okay , so once I started attending , once I started , I came and going to attend and I realized I'd better do something with this time . So I went and worked with some others and developed a curriculum of what I'm going to learn in Hasidic . He's a young man , he's an elementary school teacher in Los Angeles and he used to say my mother loves you , so why is your mother like this ? Because I would call the house early in the morning and say , when his name is Yorahmeel , I say did you wake up , yorahmeel ? She says I said he'd tell him I'm expecting him here in 10 minutes .
Speaker 1I'm here , right .
Speaker 2Because he was going to go through this curriculum , we were just going to complete it . And when you start gaining information , gaining information , gaining information and it's the second paragraph of the Shema , which is the prayer that's recited twice daily by Jews , we hear oh Israel , the Lord is our God , the Lord is one . There's a couple other paragraphs . In the second paragraph it says and you shall place these words upon on your hearts , upon your plural hearts . You shall , you plural , how's this Yal should place these words on your hearts . I think that's where it works . It sounds better than you plural , anyway . So the question is it's not about you can't do anything to the heart . All you do is place the words on the heart and from time to time the heart opens up and some of these words fall in . Our job is keep on information , information , information . Not like that Charlie Brown thing they put the book under my pillow and it'll seep in . It's real infer- . You have to learn it , you have to read it , you have to review it , you have to look at it .
Speaker 2And at the same time , very much got involved with that , going to people's businesses in Montreal on Friday and there was a statement from one of the Chabad leaders that when you do this type of work it improves your ability to understand a thousand times . So these gentlemen would come and visit them on a weekly basis . So they would come on the weekend . So one of these guys I'm fast friends with him now until this day , while he was here , I said , you know , there's somebody I'm going to , I'm going to go visit somebody in the hospital and he says , can I come with you ? There's good old days . I said , sure , why not ? So this is a guy . No matter how you see , if I'm the Sabbath I wear a longer coat , the formal coat , I wear fedora . This guy in that Hasidic group they wear the fur hat and he had . They look like I call them motorcycle boots .
Speaker 2It looks like they look like motorcycle cops , have these leather boots that go up . That is their style of dress , plus the long coat . So sure , let's go . I walk in . So we come up , of course it's a little colder . So we go in to the closest entrance to where we live is in Damatilla . So we go up and we're going to be walking down the hallway down the Damatilla . So I walk with me . Fine , I usually start to get you know , I'm going to say game face on . I'm just thinking , okay , get my mind Just to center myself before I go see this person . So this guy , every single person in the hallway , he said hello , how are you Nice to see you . Hello , a nurse is at the same and every nurse was hi , nice , hello , how are you doing ? Very nice , thank you very much for asking that . Every single person
Reflections on Happiness and Self-Perception
Speaker 2.
Speaker 2I realized at that moment there's an aspect . He's doing what's called receiving every person with a cheerful countenance , which is a statement in the Talmud you should receive or greet or meet or encounter every person with a cheerful countenance . And he was doing it , he was living it . Me , the person that sees these people and the person that's going to do this , that is this frequency that he's exists at . He doesn't . What he does in his community himself is phenomenal . I know the other things he does . He does it . He's involved with a burial society , so most of the people he's dealing with are not even many people he deals with are not alive anymore . I said , note to self wow , I'm not just going to be impressed , I want to incorporate it , I want to do it . I got to get out of my introvert self and be present and you know , oh , but what about me ? Yeah , but you know what ? You'll be okay , because it's a little bit self talk of you're okay , you're good , you got it . Here's an opportunity . Do it Right .
Speaker 1And that's it . I've always been taking that opportunity and making . I always go back to it make yourself a better version of yourself . And it's taking that opportunity to be a little bit better in this moment . And if there's one thing I think that children it's going back to . Like you know , little children , they are so innocent , they are so free . They will bring you such joy because they're able to live in the moment . And sometimes I have a question and maybe you can answer this question and maybe I've asked this question of you before but when do we lose that ability ? Because I know when we're younger we have that ability to move through space , being so free , and at some point it seems like it stops and then we're kind of guarded and then later on it feels like we're able to move through that space a little bit more freer . But there's a huge span of time where it stops , or at least for me it has stopped and I'm like when did I lose ?
Speaker 2that . That's a good . I've listened to some lectures about this type of stuff and there's there's a lot of colleagues that are very good at analyzing this . That's a good . I have to . I'm curious to know as well . And as you bring it up , that's a great . I hate you know that's a great question .
Speaker 2It is a question there and I remember a lecture that it says when kids get upset and they get upset and you say make up , and they can , five minutes later they're getting along , and but adults to make up it's not going to happen . Because and he , he used example he says because children would rather be happy than be right . So when did we stop becoming more important that we're right than we're happy ? So that's what I think . I'm using that as a parameter . So it's the same question . I have an answer .
Speaker 2Your question per se , but it's like I've assigned different value of a decision subconsciously somewhere . I don't know . It's interesting , and probably different people , and I'm sure child psychologists would be able to say when , when the kids do that from observation . But that kid is always within us , so we can always tap into it . We can always tap into our innocence , our curiosity and and , and it's that's what our , our ego gets in the way . Yeah , so I was speaking to a colleague and he was pointing out that well , he was saying some of your problem is that you don't realize that you're okay . Therefore , you super inflate yourself and now you're more sensitive . I've , I've been , I've been , I've been reflecting on it this morning , because they just told me on this morning , because they're talking about why and how making decisions says if you , if we . It's an interesting phenomenon that when do we realize we're okay , we're okay , you want to improve ? I mean it's a whole thing about about the harshest critic that we have .
Speaker 2I went to my father and father , my mother , were visiting . So I said I realized I'm my own harshest critic and my father said it's beautiful . He says yes , I used to believe and understand that about myself as well . And then I married your mother . My mother was there and she says yes , you weren't doing a good enough job . I said I discovered perpetual motion . But that is , but it's not . But we do have that's a . That is a question why don't we have a inner voice that says you're good ? We have an inner voice saying but from what I understand , from the understanding , the acidic learning that I have , it's because there's this statement from the previous Rebbe in a , in a acidic discourse , he says all problems come from ego , all problems , so ego , there's a healthy , I mean when I I'm not talking about Freud , but I'm just using that word .
Speaker 2But the idea for me it initially was like well , what about a person with an inferiority complex ? How does that come from ego ? So , thinking and analyzing and discussing , came up with the following that a person in inferiority complex what they're really saying to themselves is really I should be so much better who says you'll be , that's you see , that's , that's really ego . You should be so much better . How about being where you , who you are ? You have an image of yourself that should be so much better . So you're , you figure a failure . But really . But why you figure a failure ? It's coming from that self perception of yourself as me .
Speaker 2Better , this is not sad , it is , and but but this come . This is where the , the again , it's like why did God create us with such machinations ? See , that's a deeper question . So what do you want God ? What do you want ? He says I've put in with , with , when you , within you , you see , that's where comes in the , the idea of the original sin and Judaism eating for the tree of knowledge of good and evil . So then we we were no longer subjective , no , we're no longer objective , thank you , we're , we're , it's all subjective , we're all involved , it's all internal and it's a good luck . So look , but then again , don't the psychologists and therapists and psychiatrists deserve to make a living .
Speaker 1I guess they do too . They do , yeah . I always say we're brothers and sisters in this wonderful world and called life . You know we're brothers and sisters and we're , we're called to be that towards one another . You know every single day , even if I don't know you per se , I do know you because we're all one of the same spirit .
Speaker 2Divine Providence . God felt it's . It's pretty good reason for you , for us to be encountering one another .
Speaker 1Ask you this question . I know that your work , you provide emotional support , you provide religious support , but you also provide like a healing and I had mentioned that earlier in the beginning . And I know last week was the end of the high holiday , Sukkot . How does one celebrate the high holiday in the midst of all of the tragic ?
Speaker 2I like to . I don't know . I don't know , I don't know if we celebrated , I don't know if we grieved . People were saying some people says unbelievable . One of the things that got me through it because we started hearing the news on the day that we're celebrating . So I had read a story in preparation for one of the marks at the end .
Speaker 2One of the events , part of the rituals at the end of the holiday is what's called the Yizkor . Yizkor means remembrance . We talk about , we recite a prayer . Every individual does this and talks about what they got to remember , the remember of the people that our parents that have passed on and we actually commit to give charity in their memory . I mean , they're no longer able to give charity , so we do something and it's a benefit to that soul and it's attributed to that soul that something happened in this physical world . Remember , keep on emphasizing that . Okay , so I had a story which I didn't say , but it came up useful later , because the story was as follows that there was a group .
Speaker 2You see , towards the end of World War II , in 1944 , the transports of Jews to Auschwitz was coming a lot from Hungary . The half a million Jews from Hungary were sent to Auschwitz to die and they died . As they would say , the only way out from Auschwitz was through the chimneys . So , and it was later because at first they had their own organism when the Nazis took over the government the details I can't remember . The history per say so they came along , this group of teenage boys , and they were brought in . But when they came to Auschwitz they were sent into the camp . They were not immediately killed and they were there a few weeks . Then came a selection and all these , this group of boys , were taken to be able to the gas chambers to die . I think it was . I didn't even look up the date to be sure . I think it was October 9th , because this is recorded in people's diaries , so October 9th 1944 . So it was the same holiday . It was the same holiday .
Speaker 2So they were brought in to the , they were taken and they knew by that time they weren't in the shock position of where it's going on . They already knew they're there a couple of weeks . They know , like they say , they were told that . So they were brought into the gas chamber and they one of the guys before they were going to put down the Zyklon B which turned into the gas . They were told . One of the guys said Hevre . I mean , guys , tonight is Simchastera . We do not . We're rejoicing with the Torah . That's the holiday . We do not have a Torah with which to celebrate , but we have our souls . So let's dance . That's because we , because that's what we do , that's the holiday , that's what Jews do . So they actually I mean they say they know the songs that they sang and they're singing and they're dancing .
Speaker 2So before they pour them , the Nazis hear singing coming out of the gas chamber and they're that never . That's not what the usual sound is . You know , could imagine . The usual sounds are screams , whimpering , anguish , and they hear sounds of rejoicing . They open it up and say what's going on here ? So the guy that called everybody to dance said we are celebrating the fact that we're leaving this world , which is run by vicious humans like you , and we're going to be reunited with our parents that you murdered . The Nazi said it's not enough to kill you , I'm going to take you out and we're going to torture you to death tomorrow . So they took them all out .
Speaker 2The news came across within the system . There was a commandant of an armaments factory right nearby and he needed workers . He heard about these guys . He came and he took them and need them to work , so he commandeered this group . He needed slave labor , so he took them , so this group survived .
Speaker 2So when you see , what do we do when we're faced with this , how do we rejoice ? We rejoice . We have no choice . I have nephews in the army , in the Israeli Defense Forces , and videos coming back . They were asking people . Asking people because it lifts their morale . You say , lifts their morale . Yeah , they're facing . They're facing difficult things .
Speaker 2My niece , my sister's daughters , husband's brother , my sister's daughters , brother-in-law , was at that festival , the music festival , to celebrate . He died , saving others . How did he save others ? I've heard that , I read , I listened to the interview . He took a few days to identify his body but he kept everybody calm and he was directed them to safety . There were 1,250 at that place . There were hundreds , hundreds , to direct people to escape the hide . So the story is , what more could he want than people should celebrate life ? That's the type of person he was , because that's how he gave up his life .
Speaker 2I hope I haven't rationalized a thing , because God needs a good lawyer and I'm not going to be it for him . But I'm going to say , at the same time , people want to know . I get provocative . When you ask where people , where was God ? I say you know , god was there 100% . God was giving those monsters freedom of choice and they chose not wisely it's an understatement . They chose rudely what words can we use ? And people like my niece's brother-in-law chose very wisely , and so that's all . We tap into this because it's all about the moment . The moment says we are Jews and we're going to celebrate because we have a gift . What the alternative is to say I don't want to be . What kind of ?
Speaker 2I don't , not for the world . There was a story with a young man that would go to the story that there was a guy at a . There was a gentleman , he was speaking at a fundraiser thing for a Jewish organization a Jewish organization . They asked him how did you ? What was his story ? They brought him here . He says
Love, Light, and Building Opportunities
Speaker 2I'll tell you . It was a boy that would come , a Labaavich , a boy that would come to my business every week . What happened ? He would ask me to come to my office and ask me to put on film . And I said no . Every week he came , I said no , every week I would tell him . I says you know how does it ? How does it feel to be a failure ? And the kid says what do you mean failure ? He says you're coming and asking me to do something . It never happens . I said ah , you don't get it . You just don't get it . That's not a failure . I'm not a failure , I'm not failing at all . I come every week to let you know that I love you . Mission accomplished .
Speaker 1To fuse everything with love .
Speaker 2Right and that's , and we'll tell you this , if you was with love , I do like my favorite Catholic , jfk , you know , forgive your enemies but don't forget their names Is therefore the love I would say . Any this could other people may feel differently . For me , it's not about revenge , it's about doing the right thing .
Speaker 1Thank you , you know , for your insight and thank you for sharing . I know , as a , as a mom , when I heard , you know , the stories start to come in and things on the news , I felt , you know , I felt a certain way , you know , heartbroken . Um , you know , I think about you know , my husband , I thought about you and your family . I thought about people that I went to high school with , um . The high school I went to was predominantly a Jewish , you know , community , um , I thought about Jay's grandparents , um , and , like I said , as a mom , to hear the stories come in how terrorists came and did awful things , my , my heart broke and it still breaks because , as a mom , you know , you think you see things from a different perspective and , like the overarching theme , like , even on our talk , you know , it's like what is your calling ? Like , if you don't do everything for love , what are you doing it for ?
Speaker 2It pains me to see that humanity has even stooped to this . It's a blight on all of us . And but the only , the only way to combat darkness is with light . You can't use the , the , the expression is you can't use rags and brooms are not going to get rid of darkness . So they , taking care of the dark , taking care , removing the cancer , is going to take surgical tools , that's for sure . I , like you , know it's kind of like the idea that you don't have the spill blood if you just turn off the water . But the the story is in our lives . Our response , our response here in Rochester is we are building . We're going to build more . It's going to be to make more opportunities to support people that are seeking health , because that's what we got to . You know , we both talk about football . I'm going to stay in my lane because when somebody , when you leave your lane , that's when all , when you miss your assignment , you're blocking assignment .
Speaker 2That's what the I think that happened to very often , a lot , of , a lot of times , even for , even though they won , you know , they for the Vikings , if you heard , you know . But but so I was listening to the they they were talking about their assignments missed , because we everybody has to do their assignment and in our assignment we have , we have a list , you know , we know , we want , we know what to do and to be able to build , to be able to pay another look , this morning our meeting at Chabad was about okay , who's in town , who are we who ? Okay , so update the list because people got got left town . So we're going to now we're going to focus on , we're going to this way we're not distracted , because we're going to focus our energies as people that are coming to town and people need kosher food and where , and people and things about places to stay and people and anticipating and how we're communicating with that and this .
Speaker 2And then you have other events . We're going to be having an event and we're going to be having a chronic is coming up and we have the people to speak to because that's also bringing more light . And then at the same time , and then we actually have a building campaign that we're working on and we have fundraising that we have to do and people have other things and so we have to . That's about doing and bringing in more light and that's sticking with our assignment . And , as you know , if they call me up and they want my advice , I'll give my what do I know ? But I'll give my , of course . But until I get that phone call I have my assignment for sure .
Speaker 2And I have what we need to do . And , yeah , we get distracted and we hear when you hear such a news and and and hearing the news and it and it and it works us and it to the core . And there's a balance also with with with that , because it makes us depressed down and I always remember they broadcast it . So by consuming what they broadcast , you're , you're , you're doing what they want and I don't want to do anything that they want .
Speaker 1Right , it's a good point . It's a good point , it's a good point .
Speaker 2They have people of arguments . People of arguments . I've heard the arguments . They say well , you should know to understand . It's a good , you're an exception , right .
Speaker 1Right , good for you .
Speaker 2But I would say as a general agenda , so good . You're not going to get cancer if you smoke mouth off , but I but we suggest people don't .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2Because the statistics show that it's harmful for your health .
Speaker 1For sure . I really appreciate . You know your perspective . I really appreciate your voice
Daily Gratitude for Finding Clarity and Peace
Speaker 1. You know you've given , I feel , a lot of clarity and peace to the conversation .
Speaker 1And this is given not only for myself , I know , for the listeners who will listen to this podcast more food for thought . You know just different things that we can do within our daily life to be more light , be light , live in love . To do our part , you know , and whatever that part is , like you said , you're helping that person , you know , at the supermarket or holding that door , but whatever our part is in this big thing called life , only God knows , and we have to get up every day and put one foot in front of the other .
Speaker 2Absolutely .
Speaker 1Knowing that , hopefully , we are contributing to the better good , not of something else .
Speaker 2But if a person is looking for an opportunity , I would say waking up in the morning is an opportunity to say thank you God and that's just and I say doing it , not just thinking it , articulating it . Don't have to look in the mirror while you're doing it , but just say thank you God , and I submit that that will be a centering moment and a calibrating moment towards recognizing all the rest of your day . You'll be purposeful if we start with thanks for God .
Speaker 1You have a way again of just having beautiful conversation in a way that is not only meaningful but enlightening and in terms that I can understand , and it will help me move better in the world . And , dear listeners , you can see why Rabbi Green and his family really means so much to my family , to my journey , to my husband's journey , to my kid's journey . It's this level of conversation that he engages us on and challenges us to think about the world differently . So I really appreciate that .
Speaker 2You're welcome . Thank you and lots of success , happiness and all the blessings for you , your family and all your listeners .
Speaker 1Thank you , Rabbi Green .