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EP.65 - Kajal - "This Isn’t Something You Can Go And Tell Your Grandma"

February 20, 2024 Kiran McKay Season 1 Episode 65
EP.65 - Kajal - "This Isn’t Something You Can Go And Tell Your Grandma"
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EP.65 - Kajal - "This Isn’t Something You Can Go And Tell Your Grandma"
Feb 20, 2024 Season 1 Episode 65
Kiran McKay

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Today's episode contains a stark reality: many BIPOC individuals like our guest, grapple with the fear of speaking out against racism. Join us as we get into the challenging choice between silence and the potential consequences of raising their voice

 We engage in a difficult yet essential conversation about racism with Kajal, a female Punjabi pilot. Through Kajal's raw and candid accounts, we explore the nuances of racism in professional and personal settings and explore practical tools on how to be an effective ally.

 Through story Kajal shares her experiences of facing discrimination and bullying in day to day life and the workplace, highlighting the importance of validation and listening. As she aptly illistrates, "We can say pterodactyl, but we can’t say Kajal?" Her words shed light on the subtle yet pervasive forms of racism that individuals like her encounter daily. 

Throughout the episode, Kajal offers insights on how to respond to racism, emphasizing the need for self-reflection and acknowledgment of emotions. She challenges listeners to consider their role in fostering inclusivity and standing up against discrimination.

 Reflecting on her journey, Kajal shares, "It wasn’t just the racism; it was the bullying when nobody was listening." Her words resonate with anyone who has felt marginalized or silenced in their lives.

 As the conversation unfolds, we confront the complexities of being an ally and the importance of learning how to support marginalized colleagues. Kajal reminds us that being an ally is an ongoing process—one that requires commitment and self-awareness.

 Kajal leaves us with a powerful message: "This isn’t something you can go and tell your grandma." Her words challenge us to confront uncomfortable truths and rethink our approaches to inclusivity.

 Join us for a thought-provoking dialogue on navigating racism, and discover practical tools for creating a more inclusive and equitable environment for all. Tune in to learn from Kajal's experiences and be inspired to be a catalyst for change in your community and in the workplace.



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In the spirit of reconciliation, we acknowledge that we live, work and play on the traditional territories of the Blackfoot Confederacy (Siksika, Kainai, Piikani), the Tsuut’ina, the Îyâxe Nakoda Nations, the Métis Nation (Region 3), and all people who make their homes in the Treaty 7 region of Southern Alberta.

Show Notes

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Today's episode contains a stark reality: many BIPOC individuals like our guest, grapple with the fear of speaking out against racism. Join us as we get into the challenging choice between silence and the potential consequences of raising their voice

 We engage in a difficult yet essential conversation about racism with Kajal, a female Punjabi pilot. Through Kajal's raw and candid accounts, we explore the nuances of racism in professional and personal settings and explore practical tools on how to be an effective ally.

 Through story Kajal shares her experiences of facing discrimination and bullying in day to day life and the workplace, highlighting the importance of validation and listening. As she aptly illistrates, "We can say pterodactyl, but we can’t say Kajal?" Her words shed light on the subtle yet pervasive forms of racism that individuals like her encounter daily. 

Throughout the episode, Kajal offers insights on how to respond to racism, emphasizing the need for self-reflection and acknowledgment of emotions. She challenges listeners to consider their role in fostering inclusivity and standing up against discrimination.

 Reflecting on her journey, Kajal shares, "It wasn’t just the racism; it was the bullying when nobody was listening." Her words resonate with anyone who has felt marginalized or silenced in their lives.

 As the conversation unfolds, we confront the complexities of being an ally and the importance of learning how to support marginalized colleagues. Kajal reminds us that being an ally is an ongoing process—one that requires commitment and self-awareness.

 Kajal leaves us with a powerful message: "This isn’t something you can go and tell your grandma." Her words challenge us to confront uncomfortable truths and rethink our approaches to inclusivity.

 Join us for a thought-provoking dialogue on navigating racism, and discover practical tools for creating a more inclusive and equitable environment for all. Tune in to learn from Kajal's experiences and be inspired to be a catalyst for change in your community and in the workplace.



If you like what you hear please click on "subscribe" or "follow" - It's free and you will get notified when the newest episodes are posted! Check us out on Instagram and X @mfupodcast. Give feedback, middle finger recommendations as well as random thoughts to info@mfupodcast.com. Thank you for listening!

In the spirit of reconciliation, we acknowledge that we live, work and play on the traditional territories of the Blackfoot Confederacy (Siksika, Kainai, Piikani), the Tsuut’ina, the Îyâxe Nakoda Nations, the Métis Nation (Region 3), and all people who make their homes in the Treaty 7 region of Southern Alberta.