Let It Rain Podcast

Athletes, Branding Power, and Fame

August 07, 2023 SpoonB & DJ Nate Slaughter
Athletes, Branding Power, and Fame
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Let It Rain Podcast
Athletes, Branding Power, and Fame
Aug 07, 2023
SpoonB & DJ Nate Slaughter

Get ready to jump into the game with our special guest, Tyree Kiel, a former college basketball player from UNA. Injecting our conversation with his unique first-hand insights, Tyree will take us through a journey from the pickup games in his neighborhood to the unforgiving courts of college basketball. His perspective on the striking dynamics between the NBA and NFL, colored by personal experience and expertise, promises to be a richly rewarding exploration for every sports enthusiast. 

Ever wondered about the power of branding in sports? Well, Tyree's got you covered! He breaks down the often-underrated power of branding, explaining the impact of motivation, identity, and money on athletes. This episode is not just about the game; it's about turning individual creativity and uniqueness into something profitable. We also tackle some darker sides of fame, exploring the controversial world of celebrities like Lizzo and discussing the vital role of a solid support system when fame and fortune are on the line.

From the courts to the digital world, we turn our attention to the influence of streaming platforms on fame, using the story of Kyle, a Twitch streamer, as a springboard for our discussion. The balance of risks and rewards that come with high-profile status is central to our conversation, as is the importance of a supportive network in navigating such challenges. We wrap up by addressing the need for better laws and judgment in the sports world, and highlighting the significance of understanding financial expectations in relationships. Buckle up and join us for this engaging conversation with Tyree Kiel.

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Get ready to jump into the game with our special guest, Tyree Kiel, a former college basketball player from UNA. Injecting our conversation with his unique first-hand insights, Tyree will take us through a journey from the pickup games in his neighborhood to the unforgiving courts of college basketball. His perspective on the striking dynamics between the NBA and NFL, colored by personal experience and expertise, promises to be a richly rewarding exploration for every sports enthusiast. 

Ever wondered about the power of branding in sports? Well, Tyree's got you covered! He breaks down the often-underrated power of branding, explaining the impact of motivation, identity, and money on athletes. This episode is not just about the game; it's about turning individual creativity and uniqueness into something profitable. We also tackle some darker sides of fame, exploring the controversial world of celebrities like Lizzo and discussing the vital role of a solid support system when fame and fortune are on the line.

From the courts to the digital world, we turn our attention to the influence of streaming platforms on fame, using the story of Kyle, a Twitch streamer, as a springboard for our discussion. The balance of risks and rewards that come with high-profile status is central to our conversation, as is the importance of a supportive network in navigating such challenges. We wrap up by addressing the need for better laws and judgment in the sports world, and highlighting the significance of understanding financial expectations in relationships. Buckle up and join us for this engaging conversation with Tyree Kiel.

Support the Show.

Subscribe on Youtube ! thanks LIRP FAM

Speaker 1:

I'm in the mood, let it rain, do what it do. Huh huh. Spongebob too. Yeah, I got my daughter's bike.

Speaker 2:

It's pink and blue rainbow huh, yeah, yeah, what's up, what's up, what's up what's happening? Back with another one back with another one.

Speaker 1:

You know this man, what's up?

Speaker 2:

what's up how you been should.

Speaker 1:

I'm gravy on the gravy train. What's up with you, man?

Speaker 2:

you don't even like gravy. How you gravy, I don't like no sausage and gravy.

Speaker 1:

I like it on my marinated potatoes you like gravy whoa already nah, and I said I didn't like the anyway, so I'm Paul.

Speaker 2:

I've been great, been great. Much needed rest. I'm great, great, great.

Speaker 1:

Alright, you got some rest. How you get some rest for?

Speaker 2:

Man, take my days. Take my days. Mental health is real, alright alright. Been real, been real. Hey, it's football season two.

Speaker 1:

Okay, let's go. Glad to be back. Who you rocking with?

Speaker 2:

NFL.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

NFL hey, I'm Tyree Kiel. Fair, tyree Kiel my boy.

Speaker 1:

Okay, you know I'm NBA, bro, I'm trying to get into the whole NFL in the industry, bro.

Speaker 2:

I can't believe you, bro. You blacking you, not in football.

Speaker 1:

I ain't never had no, I mean, like I was a real hooper, bro, your football soccer, ain't it?

Speaker 2:

Wait, wait, wait this, this.

Speaker 1:

I see this right. I mean, I know you was a real hooper too, but you, you was, you know, short in stocking. I'm tall, I'm 6'5". You know what I'm saying? I ain't got time to be folks buckling my knees and all that silly shit. So that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Like you, ain't running up on me, you ain't got hands like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you like tight ends. I heard that pause.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you ain't got hands like the tight ends.

Speaker 1:

Oh, my hands is gravy yeah.

Speaker 2:

So you ain't never get into football. None of that, None of that. But the bad thing like I didn't get into football, like I was into football, but since I had seizures when I was little, my momma was always scared with like medical issues, so I just always played like outside of just the actual sport.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I played in the hood all day, picking up and getting busted the whole time. I just don't know, I ain't took the coaches, I ain't it was like too much to me personally.

Speaker 2:

yeah, yeah, see, I wanted to. Man, I had my one-time fame, bro. I was in like seventh grade.

Speaker 1:

A lot of football players used to be like cool or whatever, but like I said, I just was good and other stuff.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like I had my one-time fame, bro. I was in seventh grade, shit. I put pads in. You know how you do a little spring training shit like that. I did my two weeks. Next thing, you know, my coach came down in here. Bring your ass back up here, boys basketball With ease.

Speaker 1:

No, I thought you just said that. No, no, hell no.

Speaker 2:

No, bro, I was ready. I was hyped, my auntie let me play, but my mom was tripping, of course, but I was ready the next day. I ain't know shit, that was it. I ain't know. Go back and out there, I'm like I already know whatever. But yeah, I like football man.

Speaker 1:

And.

Speaker 2:

I fail wise, so you don't watch, no football at home I watch football, bro.

Speaker 1:

I'm beyond old Jackson, you know what I'm saying. Randy Moss, you know, I definitely got the football. I definitely watched it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you watch it, but you just ain't never been out.

Speaker 1:

I ain't kept up with it like that. I ain't never kept up with NCAA basketball either. Really, I've mainly been just NBA when I was raising Atlanta.

Speaker 2:

so we had.

Speaker 1:

Fools and Countestating. It was brazen.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love college. Like I like high school basketball College is like all right man. That's when you learn the game College. Fun to watch, though.

Speaker 1:

And I played a little bit of college at UNA and it was fun to play. I guess a little bit, but I just like I guess after playing college ball, even just a little bit, it's just like, man, the NBA and the NFL ain't really that far away from you. It's not out of the separation of players, it's a big deal, but as far as like it ain't that, you know, it ain't that. I mean the starting five on both sides. I feel like in the NBA, say, the top seven on both teams, like they probably really, really good. But like you know what I'm saying, the bottom five or bottom four, that's anybody's choice.

Speaker 2:

Really, in the NBA, I mean long as you got the height, Truly truly, because some of them players I'd be like, even though they're 34, 35, they can still run up and down, they still got the knowledge when it comes to playouts. So you get to a point. Like the young players, they don't know anything in the regular season, but when they get to playouts, what are the young players?

Speaker 1:

that now, Because they hear that yeah.

Speaker 2:

Exactly when they didn't play 82 games. They didn't game at all. Then they get to the playoffs and crowd loud and game seven.

Speaker 1:

Do you love it? Yeah, do you love it? Yeah.

Speaker 2:

A whole different scheme like hey bro, your men is reduced, just play out. I just played the whole regular season. That was regular season.

Speaker 1:

Got nothing to do with it it is enough Appreciate your business. Support your boy. Move away. Your numbers ain't the same, your head ain't that? I know you want to be there, but you ain't there. Get that tab.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, nflwise, who I'm predicting to win this year is bro. You just can't take away from the cheese. I like Pat Mahon's cheese. They so underrated because when you look at it they be like ah, whatever. But when the boys got there they be like bro. Average of 44s a game.

Speaker 1:

Okay, pat Mahon's quarterback. What?

Speaker 2:

Considered cheese. What?

Speaker 1:

What you put him in Quarterbacks in the league, right there, no more. You know I'm trying to get my bed on this year. You know what I'm saying, so I'm trying to learn. You can't listen to you. I'm listening to you. I'm scoping, so I'm just finishing football.

Speaker 2:

wise, you can't go room, pat. You got Pat Josh Allen, then you got Lamar Jackson. When it comes to stuff like that, really, really and truly, you got Pat first. Pat me personally. He, young in the game he going to pass Tom Brady. He going to pass Tom Brady.

Speaker 1:

I started watching that quarterback on Netflix. You watched that? Yeah, I watched that story about Pat who was a lineup's quarterback.

Speaker 2:

You talking about the uh, now what about?

Speaker 1:

I think so like really wake up. In this woman quarterback. I can't think of who it was, but they was just comparing them and showing a real life.

Speaker 2:

They were, I was, they said everything you can have my home's in that conversation, oh yeah, but a lot of quarterback shit, fuck. No, I'll put you in there. I'll put you in that conversation with the show.

Speaker 1:

I didn't write the show. I'm just telling you what's on the show.

Speaker 2:

The same shit, boy about through my drink at you. But yes, football season, guys and everybody excited it's about to be fall, like it's about this best time of the year for real. Yeah, I was always to December. Then you got new years. You know I'm saying, yeah, this is a great time, people in a great mood. You know you start getting cold, but so you know we get it late, so yeah, we y'all don't know, bro, we're from Alabama, so y'all hear the way we talk. So for sure.

Speaker 2:

but yeah hey, I want to shout out a couple brands out there. There's no your t-shirt. My girl, Lekayla brushy.

Speaker 1:

Caleb.

Speaker 2:

Barnett, lekayla Barnett, do a t-shirt and stuff like that. I'm proud of her cuz she the type person bro it was so weird by her responding back to a text message within two seconds every time, like oh so you want to do your own brand? That was the problem is she don't pay attention on phone. Like she pay attention on phone, but she don't look at the message.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yeah, when it's you.

Speaker 2:

I know by phone when she got 972 messages in there. Like you can sit there, be right beside it.

Speaker 1:

I know a couple. I don't get how you do that. I guess too much money be on my phone play it might be a gear, might be a show.

Speaker 2:

But she's way better doing it. But shout out to her. She got a couple t-shirts coming for a much love to the Kayla.

Speaker 1:

I love that.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, but Brandon is. How important is Brandon?

Speaker 1:

Oh, branding in general, and I just don't my brand in the person on the football times, a brand who Barrow, ah man, brandon is Say Little bit man, it's like, it's like you ain't. If you got money and branding, you pretty come, you pretty much Can make anything. I feel like pop as a entrepreneur. Yeah, you know, cuz you got money, you know how to do it. You got money to pay somebody to know how to do it. And if you got something, that, brandon, just you know identity for your product, yeah, you be straight, cuz just living in the world where everybody searches for the identity, people can identify with your stuff cuz you made it. So I didn't, it's gonna be, it's gonna bank.

Speaker 2:

Leave not, brandon is really motivation to you. We're sure think about it. You know, just start doing a t-shirts at the house. That's motivation. They'll get out the oh that's like that, like that's all looking like Brandon, like it's real big man. Brandon is like your identity, like don't know, like that's your identity, like we got a brand of letting rain podcast, you know right. He got a brand of winning. He DJ, dj, nate slaughter right. I got a brand of spongebob. Be like. You already know what he from the.

Speaker 1:

What a thing the beautiful thing is man God created is all with our own, as our own person. Yeah, like you can turn that into money, you turn it in the music and turn it into a sport. You turn it into a family and turn it into a job and turn it to whatever you want to. That's all different facets of you. Know who? Just who you are, your personality. You can put your personality anything and it's something about it. When it's done the right way, when it's pure, people gonna respect it, because we all need life. Life. Pull you out of your pureness, yeah, so we are looking for that pure all the time, man. I thank God for this podcast and for everybody out there.

Speaker 1:

Who hustling, we all watching y'all man, and we keep going.

Speaker 2:

Speaking of, read about that what bright young said about his before the NIL? Did he say they was door that door dasher?

Speaker 1:

I'm doing that. I do not care, I'm gonna call that cap.

Speaker 2:

That's bullshit, I know good God.

Speaker 1:

What's my boy, the rapper oh.

Speaker 2:

Your boy.

Speaker 1:

T Grease.

Speaker 2:

There's before. There's a voice hit record, I say for why he was doing it.

Speaker 1:

He was doing it's waiting tables and everything. That's it. Okay, I don't know, that's cap bro Like.

Speaker 2:

That is Right. You ain't have to say that, bro, like it.

Speaker 1:

Maybe he had a bag he just running out of. You can have a lot of money and still have to use it all so you telling me. In a big city.

Speaker 2:

Bright, young, with door dashing in college bro.

Speaker 1:

What city was it?

Speaker 2:

Tuscaloosa? Ain't no fucking way.

Speaker 1:

He was door dashing bro, I don't put a pass on bro.

Speaker 2:

I think that's bullshit, bullshit.

Speaker 1:

Somebody, if somebody picked up a order from brice from brothers name? Right, you're right. Young brought you your food in Tuscaloosa shot. You watch this. What do, they do.

Speaker 2:

I feel like other side bro right young been like, even coming out of high school he already Everybody knew college players. What high school players getting much pressure in that type of caliber. Okay, I already went to a prep school. Okay, so they already getting paid regardless. No matter if you can pay $2,000, matters you making $10,000 a month for your folks probably been done.

Speaker 1:

We're messing up his money, bro. You never know college, so good Do that I don't say brush young daddy. Daddy, pay them. All. Right bro, I'm just playing devil's advocate. You know what I'm saying? I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I think Bry Jones is full of shit If he did it in 10th grade. There's one thing, but he should have said it. He left it out there like he was doing it in college. Okay, Inception of that. I think he was just.

Speaker 1:

You think he just wanted to have a soft store.

Speaker 2:

I don't know why Bry Jones is pretty cool dude. You don't For real like who cares if you rich, bro Eat that Eat that Bro.

Speaker 1:

You been rich when you touched on that football field bro.

Speaker 2:

That's rich boy. You can't battle the babbles, we know that.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah the same thing. They ain't gonna let nobody stall. No, you can't bro.

Speaker 2:

You can't.

Speaker 1:

Well, he can.

Speaker 2:

No, you can't. If you ain't making that school, no money they're gonna let you store for Wallace. Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 1:

But if you playing and you playing and you performing, I know what you're gonna be hungry for.

Speaker 2:

Think about it, dude, Like a bright show on typewriter. You gotta think about it. Alabama got a lot of great players, though, but why are you?

Speaker 1:

willing to and can't get them. Yeah, I'm ready to see by your right, you see but you had a lot of great receivers Get off track, but yeah they definitely got a check because he was there for some reason, but I think that Dorda shit was kept.

Speaker 2:

Now I personally like me, now I do that If I had a million dollars I'd be like listen, dorda sponsors everything, boy, I would want it right.

Speaker 1:

I'm the type to say I'm Dorda, just pick somebody up, stop all the shit, go home and eat. Yeah, this is me I do Uh G Herbo please?

Speaker 2:

guilty to credit card fraud. Oh man he faces up to 25 years, but of course his sentence is going to get less because he pleaded guilty, yeah, please.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't know if he pleaded guilty man. Either he done it, somebody he loved done it, and then it probably hot. I wonder how old the case was.

Speaker 2:

It could have been. Yeah, you could have went both ways, because people look at it like G Herbo is probably out here scaring me with you. G Herbo, I'll be real with you, where you come from. I will put that.

Speaker 1:

He already knows.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I feel like I liked, I liked you here when he first came out. I ain't been rockin with him since he put another music.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna be honest with you. Herbo first came out, I ain't like you here, but now, since he dropped the last two man, this been some good. It's been some good, actually. I think you heard about a lot better man.

Speaker 1:

I heard him was on that, nardo, I think that's what you mean.

Speaker 2:

I think it was hard. Yeah, it was straight yeah.

Speaker 1:

I feel like he matured and like on some other stuff, so I feel like this probably three or four, probably four or five years old easily.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but they just kept delaying the conduct you know like a case. They said that was my jets and shit like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and that's the case, man. I mean you had to do with the other deal. He had to go. He gonna pay his time. He ain't gonna pay no money, he gonna go to jail. He ain't worried about scone my boy.

Speaker 2:

People forget, like bro, what he come from, though.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, he ain't finna go.

Speaker 2:

So credit card fraud is the least he can do.

Speaker 1:

He probably ain't gonna do the fairs doing that credit card, yeah he probably gonna hey what do we got to pay?

Speaker 2:

you know, sitting down for zero days or blue collar crime. Different to what is that? What's the leader?

Speaker 1:

like credit card, like banks doing like scam and a scheme, it'll normally your own. Go to the state where will, like violent prisoners yeah, famous. They separate that because they already know the guards don't want them problem.

Speaker 2:

You hear about you'll get through it, man, it ain't no, it ain't nothing you probably ain't used to. Man, that's probably the least you can do.

Speaker 1:

And then I feel like that's kind of a big deal to do. I don't know how much thug actually did or what they put on them, but Wayne did time, tia did time, a lot of people done time Casanova right now.

Speaker 2:

Oh, he's done.

Speaker 1:

He actually played it.

Speaker 2:

He played it for 20, something like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, cause he already knew. Whoever. You know what I'm saying If you done something, you doing your time. I respect that. Sometimes I think, like Wayne with the gun thing, I don't know if somebody else can do it, let him do it, so you can keep doing. Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

Everybody gotta have a follow guy, though.

Speaker 1:

Somebody. You gotta have a follow guy. If you got that much money in, you gotta have a way out.

Speaker 2:

Speaking of follow guy, would you like any one of your friends be security for you? I got a different opinion about that, bro?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I shot my cousin Cole oh shit, oh my. God, If I could pay my cousin Cole, if I made it to me, I'd give him a million to be my security. Really, I can't kill everybody, bro. I ain't even got no problem with you. You know what I'm saying. That's what you wanted to do. I'm saying if they, if one of you was him, you and him, if y'all wanted to be, you know what I'm saying, Like security and that's. You know I'm gonna hold you down.

Speaker 2:

I ain't gonna think about it, I ain't gonna be like yeah See, I look at it different, bro. I look at it like bro. It's like my loved one. So if something really happened, bro, I don't want you to jump in front of a bullet for me, even if we just regularly.

Speaker 1:

Nah see, when I think about it, I think about you being the head. I ain't think about you getting in the way. I'm thinking like no, you watch out for me. Basically, I got someone sewing them at your house. I got someone sewing whatever, whatever.

Speaker 2:

And if anything that'll happen, I'm there. I didn't mean, like you, be the one. See, I'm thinking like shit.

Speaker 1:

Nah, not, no little guy Nah nothing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I'm thinking like I ain't sound a good one Even them big guys.

Speaker 1:

Y'all see with them dudes, they the little guys. It's a company who owns. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2:

Okay, okay, yeah yeah, okay, I got you guys. See, I'm thinking like bro, I ain't trying to put my loved one in danger like that, I'd rather have somebody I don't know, but really and truly I'd rather have like my security, like somebody at Metway he get acquainted, like we get a relationship with so I can have them all the time that way you know, give him, like give his folks, you know, extra money you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Like hey, tell your family we're gonna fly them out this way For sure, like even if, yeah, for sure. The same thing, like if I said it's one of you's like man, I'm just out of working. You know what I'm saying. Say the music go crazy for me right now, you know what I'm saying, what can I do? I'm just like, yeah, these guys are for me, man, Get them in the gym. Yeah, we get a security. Or either, if you hire somebody, they what you think.

Speaker 1:

You definitely you know for important stuff be there or whatever.

Speaker 2:

I got you, I got you. You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you, I got you. See, I'm thinking like shit, bro. I don't know how to show like. I wouldn't tell you be my, even though I know the type person you are. Anyway, we don't need no fucking security. I know. No, exactly that's what I'm saying it's great to have dudes like that. Right bro, it's great, like people don't understand.

Speaker 1:

I want somebody with common sense calling the shots around. People understand that's what I mean. And then, even about being tough is about like when you make a move and when you don't. That's really what security is Like you know what I'm saying. Like if it might look average Joe, but like my boy really looking like I just don't trust him. Just because somebody look like they can be somebody else, that don't mean that the shooters can shoot. I can fuck.

Speaker 2:

I mean, that's what you're pushing. Yeah, people don't understand. Like, bro, it's so important to have people around you that love you more than you love yourself. Man.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like to tell you like hey bro, you don't have enough drinking bro. Hey bro, you don't need to touch your lawsuit coming 100%.

Speaker 1:

It's too much shit going on. 100%. That girl ain't for you, bro.

Speaker 2:

She doing too much People got a lot of yes man.

Speaker 1:

Get out. I'm finna get out of here. It's hard, bro, that ain't the one. Yeah, man.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, people got a lot of yes man. It's around them. I don't me personally, none of my friends is just like yes man, even though if I start making more money than them just like that, I'm still gonna want them like bro. You know that shit wasn't right. Why would you even let me do that?

Speaker 1:

Right, you know what I mean. Right, because there's love. Like bro, I don't care about no money. Like you're deep in there, I don't care about no money. Yeah, I don't care about no money.

Speaker 2:

Like your folks been taking care of, like you know what I mean 100%. It ain't about that, bro. I need people around that I can trust, not just necessarily say I can leave a million dollars on the floor, right, because people like gonna tell me like, bro, you messing up your deals, man, you already lost this, you're gonna lose it all. You forgot where you came from. You know what I mean? Yeah, well, that's the type of people like.

Speaker 1:

The thing is the money ain't the issue. Like, I would rather have somebody around me who wouldn't steal it from me, who would ask it from me. Yeah, that's my whole thing. So, as long as your heart, it's a hard thing. It ain't even like I said, it ain't really about what you would do personally. It's like what you can see for me. Yeah, because my eyes is only. I can only see so much. I need somebody's eyes who's gonna go all the way around with my eyes. You know what I'm saying and that's what I feel like I'm saying. People who love you, be like I seen around the corner, bro, that ain't no good. Look, you know what I'm saying, or whatever. And if I take that advice, one thing. But you ain't gonna be mad at me if I take it or if I don't.

Speaker 2:

But you gonna tell me I'm still gonna be there with you. You know you fucked up, but shit what we finna do to get out Exactly, I told you a stupid ass. You fucking up the bag there about it. Hey bro, you fall, we all fall. That's why you know like people look at it like bro, you only waiting for money Like bro, you can put your family in a good position.

Speaker 2:

You put my family, you can put your folks in a good position. Right, you know what I'm saying. Like you know, like people look at it like bro, you only waiting for money. Like bro, you can put your family in a good position. You put my family, you can put your folks in a good position. This is what we talked about when we was little.

Speaker 1:

Like you know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

And now you hit, now you blowing it, bro, right, you know, do drugs and not focusing on the whereabouts of holes, all the time Right or buy stupid stuff.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, blowing your money, Make some investments man yeah, you're right about that 100%.

Speaker 2:

I uh legend Lizzo Faces lawsuit.

Speaker 1:

Bro, this is the crazy stuff. I feel like they dragging her a little bit. I ain't the biggest Lizzo fan, but like they're dragging her a little bit.

Speaker 2:

Basically uh uh, allegedly, they say, she forced, she forces bananas from her sex workers. Bananas, bananas.

Speaker 1:

Sorry bro, I got too high when you said it. No, you broke it. You said it again.

Speaker 2:

So basically Lizzo face charged over, like basically they said she put bananas in people vaginas and making her workers eat it.

Speaker 1:

So they was like has that a strip club or something?

Speaker 2:

It just. It was like it was part of an act or whatever this and that, but she don't make them do it in front of everybody, like backstage type stuff. Allegedly it was different. So like, like, like, uh, Hazen, it's kind of like Like initiation, no, no, it's just like.

Speaker 1:

So she like to see them do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Nah bro.

Speaker 2:

It wasn't Hazen, it wasn't, it's like that. So I me personally, some of the girls came out and said like, hey, she made us do it this and that, yes, she probably told y'all, y'all gonna do it. So you gotta think about it. So you gotta think about it like, all right, you gotta. You gotta put yourself. Do you want to fucking eat a vagina with a banana in it on some freaking shit and people watching you? Or you gonna lose your fucking job day over this fucking vagina? That's how them predicting them people in there Uh, legendally, your face is charged, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's chat about this. I know y'all haven't seen this story in some time let's chat about this.

Speaker 1:

The long story short is she told legendally. She told me that she was going to do it so legendally.

Speaker 2:

She told her work. She put a banana in her sex workers vagina and they ate it out.

Speaker 1:

So wait, this is like Lizzo Barra prostitutes. What they saying Basically Put a banana in her vagina and made an employee eat the vagina after yeah, after they put, she pulled it out Like three, three, four girls and said it Okay.

Speaker 2:

And they worked. They worked with her.

Speaker 1:

Do you think this was a party setting? It was a party. I mean, I think it honestly. I think, they were drinking and stuff and it's like girl, come on.

Speaker 2:

Me personally. I just think they already did this shit before.

Speaker 1:

You think it was like a bed or something.

Speaker 2:

I think. I don't think it was a bed, I think it was just part of what they do. I mean, to be honest with you, I think it's just part of what they do, because that's kind of like a random story, Lizzo, you never know what somebody's thinking. I'm not saying like you know.

Speaker 1:

I have no clue what she was thinking. Oh, you got that much money. You got people playing with banana.

Speaker 2:

I think about it. A lot of people who make that much money take it for granted anyway, Cause they think they can make you do what they want to do.

Speaker 1:

Well, either be be have somebody around you, like we talked about, to help. Hey, you got to sign this NDA. I wonder if they have to sign the NDA when they started working for her, like not to tell them.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, I bet they do.

Speaker 1:

I don't know they talking about it all though.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they back up shit. Some people don't give a fuck about the NDA.

Speaker 1:

Shit. I mean that's going to throw the whole thing out. The case then. You know, what I'm saying. They ain't got no case if they talking about it and they wasn't supposed to and got paid. They ain't not going to get paid. I mean that case is going to fall.

Speaker 2:

I would just quit, honestly.

Speaker 1:

And then, if that's the case, they couldn't have no NDA, because if they couldn't be bringing the case up and saying these things public, then they going to win the case. So that's out. And then, if that's out, what was really happening?

Speaker 2:

I'm telling you this is a fucking freak show up that bitch. I mean.

Speaker 1:

I mean, everybody knows this is a freaking. You can tell Like you know what I'm saying and like I said, no, not going to. You know her sex, whatever.

Speaker 2:

We don't judge you at all. We just chatting, bro, that's it.

Speaker 1:

I'm telling you you can't be. They coming for you, me, they coming for you, anybody with that bag like that. You put yourself in the predicament. Lord, let me knock on the phone. I don't know if you know that I'm always aware, know how to go to sleep. You can't mess with everybody, Especially when you're paying them. It shouldn't have been people who's paying them. If it was anything, that was the dumb part. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

You just never know what somebody fucking thinking though Y'all might think. Y'all know somebody and deep down inside y'all get behind a scene, like your favorite rapper. Your favorite rapper, that motherfuckers a asshole and I will beat the fuck out of him when he come outside. Like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Right, but it's like if you signed the NDA or whatever to beat that, what's the point in all this? If they did sign the NDA and they going against it, what?

Speaker 2:

are you?

Speaker 1:

doing. You just really want to make a little bag. You got a crush on us. Huh yeah, I don't know man, that shit weird to me, that shit real weird to me, listen, listen, listen.

Speaker 2:

If you get out of this one man, change the ways, because they going to keep coming at you. If you don't freak your ass, shit like this, like, at the end of the day, me personally, that's what I do if it was me. If anybody around you but Lizard will know your character, will know how you are, you could be nice person behind the scenes. You could be this bitch on earth. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Probably a little bit of both. To be honest, you got to be a little bit of both, I think it was part of us.

Speaker 2:

I want to say it was probably them people know. Them people knew They've been doing it for probably a minute. I feel like Lizard, you just don't come at it all the sudden.

Speaker 1:

I ain't knocking on her. I feel like she might be a type that you can't tell her. What to tell her? No, you ain't telling me. You know what I'm saying. I run this. You know what I'm saying. Like type vibe, like bad bitch in her, in her queen state, you can't tell her. And then I bet somebody was like man, this ain't this.

Speaker 2:

This ain't it. I hate to be the backup If they really was true, but I feel like they all went into honest.

Speaker 1:

I do too. I think that. I think that I think they, they can get some money from her or something like that. And now they retort and everything, because it don't really make no sense for them to just call her. I guess, if they, if she really made them do it, if it was really like a you got to do this or you fire, type thing, or like you ain't going to accept it, you ain't doing the next gig, type, shit Damn, she got to get it. Every other dude, any dude who'd have done it, man, he'd have been.

Speaker 1:

Oh my God.

Speaker 2:

New York City in an up raise right now. You know Twitter streamer. He gave you know cost of that.

Speaker 1:

He's like one of them.

Speaker 2:

He basically he tried to do a giveaway in New York City Yesterday. They shut it down. They brought out over 100 police officers. Like it got to that point and it's like it was kind of like what they call it A rate. It was like a rate.

Speaker 1:

Wow.

Speaker 2:

He just went out. He told everybody to be here someplace, yeah, 10,000. I got like I'm beyond what. You're, my brother, I know you want to give back, but you got to find a different way to get back because you know you too big of an influence.

Speaker 2:

That's like that's like Drake telling everybody to be in New York City. Bro, believe it or not, bro, you got as much influence as fucking Drake, believe it or not, I don't know. If you don't, if you don't realize, I know you got a little pool, this and that. Bro, you big bro, you're a big time. You had a lot of these, the famous, famous people. How, you too famous for that.

Speaker 1:

It's crazy man, I just be in my age. I never thought of somebody to just start streaming in like people, just start messing with them, rocking with them, like that, but shout out to Kyle.

Speaker 2:

I know your business better though.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you too, kyle, you too famous. I know I didn't mean that I'm no kind of knock. I just saying like it's kind of crazy because it's super dope that you doing anything or even trying to get back, because Lord knows a lot of bridge people who don't give nothing back so shout out to you for that. Somebody got hurt or something.

Speaker 2:

That's all I just want to say. Kyle, you want to get back, you want to do the nice thing. You from New York, you want to get back to where you from. I get that. But listen here, man, in your instance, bro, you probably need to get back another way because, bro, they going to shit you down every time. Bro, you know, you the biggest Boy, you listen, you almost you compared to Drake, kyle, you know. So you know, just do better by just doing something different.

Speaker 1:

That's big bro.

Speaker 2:

I'm glad, though. I'm glad like a Twitch streamer and you just seen his growth, this and that he deserve it. He humble.

Speaker 1:

He's a black guy too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he's black, he's probably like 21.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome bro.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so you see his grind. His famous clip was he was in this, his mama house, in a rat cave. It came through, A mice came through and they seen it and he started going up. But he was networking. He did what he needed to do. Even though how you feel about motherfucking the same.

Speaker 1:

That's hilarious. That's how you got fame.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, bro, no, he was out. He had, like you know, 4,000, 3,000. Like he funny, he very entertaining.

Speaker 1:

Oh, he just be chillin.

Speaker 2:

He talented yeah no he talented, he can rap. I'm telling like he's a he's high energy all the time, Like if y'all party with each other, it'll be up.

Speaker 1:

I'm telling you, bro, yeah, get with me. Kyle, one of them, high energy people, yeah, he living.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he living like he's supposed to. That's what's up, but yeah he got famous. He got famous off a rat, a mice coming in the background. They were like bro, you just see the mice?

Speaker 1:

Bro, this the smallest stuff like that, that's what he did, he took off, he networked.

Speaker 2:

Hey, how you feel about say life for this guy? He was the youngest one in the group and now he's like the biggest, but he kind of really used everybody else and everybody started saying if you use your, your, your power of celebrities, the you know, influence, like I ain't mad at about it. I don't get mad about it. I wouldn't get mad about that.

Speaker 1:

I'm the other longest Like well, I hope you will reach back and help your homies If they ever need anything, or like they like man. Can I let me be on or whatever. That's what you want, but ain't no point of hating on nobody.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like some people is like if you do better than looking, learn some people look at it like bro, you use me to get what you need to be at.

Speaker 1:

You can't use me.

Speaker 2:

I'll be real with you. In this world, everybody use each other for something.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's something like that. You can't use me. I knew what I was getting myself into. If that became a bridge for you, that's cool. Yeah, but there's a world.

Speaker 2:

Nothing wrong with somebody using you Longest. It's a great using yeah and bad using that, and that's the way the problem gets serious, like you only using me for this and that, and I can tell you know what I'm saying. But in this everybody use each other, but you need to use each other to get what you need to get in. In general, it could be good or bad. No matter how depending on the personality you are. So when people say you using me, you right.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

Everybody use each other.

Speaker 1:

Well, often I say in the sense, in the sense like it's like if I meant when I said don't nobody use me, it's like I allow myself to be.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like you ain't got to use me. What you need me to do, yeah, I don't care. I don't care. I'm your boy, I take it. I do that she doesn't work all the time, I don't care.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, hey, keep knowing your thing, brother, you got nothing bad to say about you. We uplifting here we give our opinion, but you know, at the end of that, we know we all human, at the end of the day. I just get into some NBA talk. Okay, 80 songs extension for three years, $186 million, bro, that's crazy. Listen, I'm going to be real job, bro. We're 80 by 34.

Speaker 2:

Yeah so he's really another three year extension of his contract, 2028. Shit, 80,. Fuck, no, fuck, no. In order, he signed another three years, 186 million. So basically from his contract now to 20,. Yeah, 60 something a year, bro. Like, in order for you to get money like that, you gotta be able to carry a team by yourself. That's some I'm trusting. I'm not hating on no man for getting money, but when you talking about he signed another three years, listen here, bro.

Speaker 1:

I'm sure I'm sure some contingencies in there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, 80, be hurt half of the fucking year bro.

Speaker 1:

Right, so I'm sure they'll be like you ain't getting all that. Yeah, he's gotta be hurt too much for them to not put in. If you don't play with a certain amount of games, you don't get a certain amount of money. The games you play and perform, you get, like you making that in actuality, he's he hurt bro.

Speaker 2:

He stay hurt, ain't?

Speaker 1:

no, I ain't gonna say that 80,. I ain't gonna say that I don't wanna speak bad about it, but he been hurt.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm beyond to another player. God damn Zion. Yeah, bro.

Speaker 1:

I said that from the jump, though he was too big to be jumping like that.

Speaker 2:

I said it from the he was. I think he was 300 pounds. Over bro he was over 300. He's not that tall, he's, believe it or not.

Speaker 1:

How tall is that one?

Speaker 2:

About six, five, six, six. Yeah, they say about six, six.

Speaker 1:

He got some leaps and bounds. Can't jump like that forever, bro.

Speaker 2:

But he had that clause in his contract, the weight clause.

Speaker 1:

Oh for real.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's why he had to shed them pounds.

Speaker 1:

That was smart. I mean on all parties. His too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You can't jump like that when you get a certain size.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, cause you gonna break every fucking thing in your fucking body. The fuck Like the fuck.

Speaker 1:

You made this long, I would've put it that way, but yeah.

Speaker 2:

God damn Zion shit. You motherfucking. Listen that birth certificate is not real, cause you see that, motherfucking away, he was jumping in high school.

Speaker 1:

Oh my God, bro you so crazy.

Speaker 2:

You see that, motherfucking away, he was jumping in high school.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, bro.

Speaker 2:

That was nasty work.

Speaker 1:

He was doing that old like old man. You know old man used to talk about getting to die off the top of the backboard.

Speaker 2:

Bro, he was jumping, Listen, that was original he was jumping like that Bro you see them, little ass kids, he was there, ain't no fucking way.

Speaker 1:

That one funny.

Speaker 2:

Zion. I don't know what fucking prep school you went to, but you want to play with the elites out of the elites?

Speaker 1:

God damn, look at daddy, gotta be a moose or something. You with the daddy animal. Damn, this is Bob the slow one. Damn, kangaroo or something. What?

Speaker 2:

you mean what you think about Zion into the porn chicks?

Speaker 1:

I don't know what's up with the NBA and the poor chicks Period. Bro, I'm watching them, like bro y'all. Can't find no badder girls than this. My thing is Y'all paying them to put y'all on TV saying y'all slept with them. Bro, you can go to the club and find some justice bad or bad or justice slave.

Speaker 2:

You go to P Street in Atlanta and get you. Go to King's spot, get you some, bro, I'm telling you the spa, the spa the spa the king's spa. Listen, ain't no way in the hell Like I'm whatever you call. Whatever y'all want to call, I don't give a fuck. Listen here stereotypical, whatever you want to call a stereotype, listen, I'm not finna. Be a millionaire Like, got all that fucking money, got all them endorsements and you catching me with prostitutes, bro. Nothing wrong with-.

Speaker 1:

Like he pay dude who paid ice spice. Who Was it then? The basketball player paid ice spice like 200,000 to go out with him or something.

Speaker 2:

You know who the fuck it was? Who His ass up out of Jordan Poo? Oh yeah, good, like I don't like, bro, I listen to the guys. I get this your money. I worked hard to get what y'all need to go. But, logically, bro, you pay somebody 200,000 I was going to date but take that back, Devil's advocate. I mean you pay your wife, you going to date, 200,000, there's this difference.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, cause the money coming back to you Technically?

Speaker 2:

So if what's your wife?

Speaker 1:

I mean, like I'm saying you married like-.

Speaker 2:

Like girlfriend or whatever. Oh, I'm saying wife.

Speaker 1:

Wife, who cares, cause it's yours too. Yeah, yeah and God, you know what I'm saying. Whatever you wife, every day, anybody.

Speaker 2:

Okay, what girlfriend, girlfriend, girlfriend, nah, I ain't giving up. So you working your-.

Speaker 1:

No, I learned my lesson. I learned my lesson. I don't know. I know what's the-.

Speaker 2:

What's the-? I hear you, I hear you, I, I, I, I, I. I'm finna hit y'all with one. Exclusive guys Exclusive. So I'm finna catch me. Y'all, I'm finna catch him. So if you, struggling on beers, and your girlfriend was like you don't never do nothing for me, just tonight and next thing you know y'all going on a $150 date, bro, would you go on that day, even though you struggle on bills, just to make her happy? Yeah, I know y'all can't afford it.

Speaker 1:

I have done it, you did it, yeah and shit. I have done it the other way too, like hell no.

Speaker 2:

Get to a point what made you? What made you go on that?

Speaker 1:

when I did it, that the times I had did it, you know saying I just felt like she needed a break and I needed a break. Yeah, the bill is gonna be there. We can't catch the hundred fifty dollar one. None to two thousand. Let's go you to state. I'm gonna have one day of glory for fucking 29 more days.

Speaker 2:

Get calls. Marketers if I'm looking at like if I'm Irish and it's my idea, yeah, it's one thing. Wait, it's her idea. Okay, okay. So we just said the shit cuz I'm looking at like, say, say, the person was paying for all the bills, bro, like the dude was paying all the bills and your chick was like you'll never do enough for me this name. You are really struggling to pay the main bills anyway.

Speaker 1:

That's ain't great.

Speaker 2:

And she say Dang, let's go get some. You'll never take me out to eat. I want to look nice. The motherfucker got bill 200 dollars, nor the way. Y'all can't afford it. I'm looking, I'm looking at it like I guess that's why I feel in love with my wife, bro, and she don't. She value stuff like that, you know, man.

Speaker 2:

She gets it like as a All right, she not, we're not finna, even though I can afford to go, but she's not feeling she finna. Tell me we think you know 200 dollar bill, the fuck like you know me right. You don't say that we was a mean. I make hundred thousand and that's no problem, of course, no brainer.

Speaker 1:

And it's out to the ladies we ain't trying, we ain't trying to talk bad about y'all, but it's. You know if you was raised.

Speaker 2:

Shit, I am.

Speaker 1:

Hey, if you was raised the same way, that's fine. But you can't be with somebody who you know ain't got that or whatever. You need him to step up to the way y'all living. Then you used to live in there and that's on you. You got to find you somebody rich, but if you do, you love that man and y'all cool where y'all at don't be.

Speaker 2:

I'm doing like that. One fucking got a lot to say until it's time for them to pay for some shit. Then there's a whole another story. That's when they want to split the bill. That's when they want to do this. That's what they want to do.

Speaker 1:

That Fuck that it's easier said than done, always with the money. Yeah, the lot of girls don't realize it. I mean, there's some girls out here who getting it, you know what. I'm saying for sure, for sure, got money, put up good with money. The whole nine don't mind paying the whole nine and his girls like that.

Speaker 2:

I don't mind like. He take care of me, I'm gonna take care of him. I feel like.

Speaker 1:

But it's crazy, because I feel like it's hard for them, women, to find men Because they wear that on a sleeve. And but when, if a man with a sleeve, if a man, say I pay, I pay out of bits, are you a shoveness? Oh, like you ain't trying to let me be whatever I can do that too. Okay, now that you do it, now you wearing it on your sleeve, so we both look like a bunch of dudes in this bitch. You know what I'm saying. So, like what's the little.

Speaker 1:

What's the give, and I think that real thing is realizing, like it don't matter who do it, it's about the roles you play with each other. Like you want to pay this time. Okay, baby, I'm gonna take you out. Okay you can take me out. Okay, you want some. You know what I'm saying. Like you have to be, do things like that for each other.

Speaker 2:

I got no shame in my wife paying for some shit. Let's say equal rights, baby, equal rights. There you go. I'm just saying now you see how I feel when I say, for example, this is saying I struggle to make monthly bills, is my now and I can't do it. Now you got to step up and do it like all right, hey, I do this, I do that. Oh what. I've been doing it for the last three years. You can't hear me cry.

Speaker 1:

Oh my god, you know what I mean. It's a thing I feel like when opportunity hits somebody who ain't had it, they get the they get the wrong. It just show you who people really is, though, and if they turn it to somebody different because they got more than you or more than they normally had, you see, and that's fine, and then and into it, but they were just.

Speaker 2:

There you go. That's how I look at it. But, like I was saying, motherfuckers complain a lot till they had to do it. Then it's a whole different story. That's all I'm saying. Y'all put yourself in the man shoes, or a man put yourself in the woman's shoes, yeah, and then like one month, you know, with a little something on your shoulder.

Speaker 1:

Two months. Okay, you put them for that when you put that 350 on your shoulder when you keep putting the weights on your shoulder. You know, I've been walking for like, never like eight nine years. You see why I'm frustrated. You see like, yeah, I want to fuck or whatever.

Speaker 2:

I need you know what I'm saying, like.

Speaker 1:

I feel like, yeah, I feel like I deserve it.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, yes. But, yeah, hey takes to. The law pack takes as fast as a new law with drunk drivers. Basically, if they a drunk driver killed a person parent, they making them pay child support the person die.

Speaker 1:

Yep, that makes sense.

Speaker 2:

I love that law. I'll be real child. I don't too. Ah, a lot of law, kind of bull shit that they need to revise on, but y'all adding shit. Y'all need to go revive some shit on top of y'all. I feel like that's some wisdom right.

Speaker 1:

I feel like laws need. They need to do that about a whole bunch of laws Like stop making taxpayers pay for stuff. The stupid people do, the people out here, not, like I said, it should be judged by a judge, not from random people, somebody who really, who really good at understanding the situation, can take that, can take a situation to pick out what's really going on and then judge. That's a judgment like okay, sir, you was drunk, you don't think you deserve nothing. Okay, you don't, you ain't gonna, you ain't gonna die, but you're gonna take care of that child who ain't got no daddy, no more. Yeah, I'm saying point blank. So you're people, stop doing that stupid shit. And I feel like More laws should be made.

Speaker 2:

That's a great law for me personally.

Speaker 1:

I feel like the laws could be so much better. They really could, bro, but it ain't about it being better, it's about the country still making money. That's no, that's another episode.

Speaker 2:

All right guys. Appreciate y'all for watching us, listen to us. Don't forget to go Find us on letting rain podcast Spotify, apple you name me, google, youtube letting rain podcast channel tiktok, instagram, instagram coming.

Speaker 1:

So y'all stay with us, man, we stay tuned. Man Got good things coming this year.

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