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September 04, 2023 SpoonB & DJ Nate Slaughter Season 1
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Let It Rain Podcast
WE'RE COMING!
Sep 04, 2023 Season 1
SpoonB & DJ Nate Slaughter

Ever wondered how sports politics and coaching are intertwined? Join us in a riveting conversation as we dissect this complex relationship, and its impact on success both on and off the field. From the power dynamics within the NBA to the critical role parents play in nurturing young athletes, we're set to explore the unseen side of sports. We promise you'll walk away with a new perspective, whether you're a seasoned enthusiast or a casual observer.

We're not only tackling the sport's world, we're also turning our attention to the importance of celebrating each other's successes and the dangers of letting envy and jealousy take the driver's seat. By sharing our experiences and perspectives, we hope to highlight the importance of consistency and the power of utilizing platforms to stay connected. So, get ready to redefine your relationship with success, and learn how to leverage the right tools to maintain meaningful relationships.

And for the music lovers, we're stirring the pot by diving into the controversial career move of MIGUEL. As we unravel the art of creating a hook and question the role shock value plays in the music industry, you're sure to gain a fresh insight into what really makes a hit song. From fan expectations to why MIGUEL approach isn't always accepted, we're leaving no stone unturned. So grab your headphones and get ready to challenge your assumptions about sports, music, and life.

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Ever wondered how sports politics and coaching are intertwined? Join us in a riveting conversation as we dissect this complex relationship, and its impact on success both on and off the field. From the power dynamics within the NBA to the critical role parents play in nurturing young athletes, we're set to explore the unseen side of sports. We promise you'll walk away with a new perspective, whether you're a seasoned enthusiast or a casual observer.

We're not only tackling the sport's world, we're also turning our attention to the importance of celebrating each other's successes and the dangers of letting envy and jealousy take the driver's seat. By sharing our experiences and perspectives, we hope to highlight the importance of consistency and the power of utilizing platforms to stay connected. So, get ready to redefine your relationship with success, and learn how to leverage the right tools to maintain meaningful relationships.

And for the music lovers, we're stirring the pot by diving into the controversial career move of MIGUEL. As we unravel the art of creating a hook and question the role shock value plays in the music industry, you're sure to gain a fresh insight into what really makes a hit song. From fan expectations to why MIGUEL approach isn't always accepted, we're leaving no stone unturned. So grab your headphones and get ready to challenge your assumptions about sports, music, and life.

Support the Show.

Subscribe on Youtube ! thanks LIRP FAM

Speaker 1:

Let's go. What's up shows? Uh uh, up your nose ay no snidey, got that lean. Ay ay water Nathan Slaughter on your mama and your daddy up in that caddy.

Speaker 2:

I thought you were going to hear a real freestyle from you, ay you know, I I don't even think you can freestyle, alright we'll keep thinking that you a writer.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, just keep thinking what you need to think, man, to make you comfortable, bro.

Speaker 2:

I guess you gotta pay you.

Speaker 1:

Huh, you ain't gotta pay me, but you gotta play me in your speakers and your rips.

Speaker 2:

Nah, I'm just playing with you, I don't spill to be yeah it's your boy, nathan Slaughter, and we back.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm talking about. Yeah, I'm talking about, yeah, I'm talking about yeah, I'm talking about yeah, this is letting rain podcast once again once again, make sure y'all go follow us on Spotify.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

It's going crazy man yeah, tiktok, hip Hop, jip, drop, dibblop thank y'all for the support.

Speaker 2:

Bro, y'all follow us. Man ay for real man.

Speaker 1:

People been coming to us in Florence, locally of course, but people really been saying like, coming up to me and coming up to the spoon and just saying like man, we watch y'all, y'all legit man, we appreciate y'all so damn much. I can't say thank you enough, man. We still we not stopping. We definitely in the creative process of making things better. Subject matter if y'all got things y'all want us to talk about, we definitely into that. Please comment. We want to get more responsive. We want to get more questioning and asking and we're trying to get up to upgrade our content game. So y'all give us any ideas or anything y'all want to talk about or anything y'all want to see. Definitely looking at more interviews and different things like that. But please interact with us, let us know man don't do nothing crazy, of course, because we are real people with real families. But ask us if y'all want to hear something or hear us talk about something shit, or you want to be on, come on, let us know what's going on.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like that, we always open to everything. But yeah, man, it's been a lot. You watch football this weekend. Football started listen. I'm a Florida fan, but they went down. But hey listen, colorado came through, they all sandwiched.

Speaker 1:

So y'all got people that's like I ain't never been to football as a man. I'm going to be real, real, real quick. I'm a basketball guy from the jump. I really wasn't even in the sports. I'm definitely more of an introvert, extrovert. I love music, I love art, I love creative shit and then by, I love hooping. Hooping saved my life down there, so I definitely put the years into that. But I never was a football guy because I never played it. I really ain't the type of person to comment on something if I ain't done it or I ain't never been what. I had homies cleaning, homies who played football or whatever. But I was more in the basketball cause. That's why I was productive, dunked on a couple people, you know all that kind of thing. But so since we getting older and want to you ain't dunk on nobody.

Speaker 2:

Nah, I ain't dunk on nobody, everybody know what's up, though?

Speaker 1:

you know what I mean. I ain't dunk on nobody. You know what I mean Everybody try to get hung. I'm like I definitely got hung before.

Speaker 2:

Let's say you trying to dunk for a frito line and did a layup.

Speaker 1:

That definitely has happened, but I definitely have to-.

Speaker 2:

You tried to dunk for the frito line and did a layup cause you pulled a crowd.

Speaker 1:

I was still there, though, right, I was at the rim from the frito line.

Speaker 2:

You thought you was dunking. Did you ever dunk, even from the dotted? Did you get to the dotted? I don't video change. I don't be rude, mine's not on video change, but listen, not in real game, not like that, bro. The one time y'all gotta think about it, I was five, six in the twelfth grade.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, whatever.

Speaker 2:

So the one time I thought I was gonna go try and dunk, hell no.

Speaker 1:

Bro hell. No, when the lights is on, it's totally different when it ain't just there.

Speaker 2:

This is like because I won the dunk. You know what I mean. Y'all boys, literally all the drills y'all do is damn near bunny hop drills.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean For sure, I was a big man. I was a big man.

Speaker 2:

So I give all the credit in the world for up with y'all dunking. No for sure, but that, time being short, five, six was not heard of. You know you had to spoil where, like shit like that you guys were a couple of guys.

Speaker 1:

You've always been a couple of guys, yeah.

Speaker 2:

But it's like, bro, really the truth is like now they niggas dunking that five, five, five six.

Speaker 1:

They got the workouts to do it.

Speaker 2:

now we ain't know how to make your legs flex at all, we didn't do all that I heard about you dunking, though, yeah, we was in there.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, what I'm trying to get to the point of is that I'm trying to get into football for real, betting the whole nine. You know what I'm saying? Like trying to understand how the whole points, points, game working, the spreads and all that stuff. So I'm definitely trying to watch football. Man shout out to my boy, decoen, trying to put me on that work.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, betting is legal y'all, so this ain't nothing like betting is legal now. So I don't care what you're getting. Your mama, your grandma, your past even bet, so so so Money is money, money, yeah. So you know what I'm saying. But yeah, coach Prine, they pulled off the win. A lot of people doubt him from the beginning 100%. I think about it. He scrapped his whole team that went. That was butt-lashing.

Speaker 1:

So don't be. I heard we got, like you said, we got, three people from UNA, I mean from Colorado, that came to UNA. You know about that. No, they said three players from the whole color. Yeah, they came here. Yeah, but it was good Because you recruited them what's good?

Speaker 2:

I mean, I'm pretty sure they some good players. They just didn't work out in Colorado.

Speaker 1:

No 100%, I'm just saying like how small the world is Like, because UNA just went D1 shot to UNA and then so they recruited some of those players. That Deion apparently they weren't working out with Deion.

Speaker 2:

Yeah Well, they well. He was just like hey man, I'm just gonna get them guys in there and want to win A lot of them. Like I don't like the way his attitude is this and that Shit. I don't blame him.

Speaker 1:

In fact, it's a big world.

Speaker 2:

He started the whole new team, 86 players. All trash first, all trash first.

Speaker 1:

So a lot was on the line.

Speaker 2:

Listen he brought JSU players over from the smaller division one you know Deion, know football.

Speaker 1:

it don't matter Exactly.

Speaker 2:

But that's why, people, even though it's only game one, at least he got his first win off and it was on TCU that made it to the championship last year.

Speaker 1:

So was TCU, didn't he used to coach at TCU?

Speaker 2:

No, no, no no.

Speaker 1:

No, no, no.

Speaker 2:

He came from Jackson State. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Somebody said that he started his coach and stuff at TCU. I don't think so as an assistant. It might be high school.

Speaker 2:

So I don't know From Texas.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, that was my bad.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, but like the players showed up, showed up. They defense a little soft but it's game one.

Speaker 1:

So what's homeboy who played? They say he played 100 snaps.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, travis Hunter. They won recruiting player. Before he went to Jackson, deion got him out the living room. He was number one recruiting player. Overall he had over 30, 40 different offers. He could have went anywhere.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

But he went with Jackson State smaller division one because he believed in Deion. Deion was manager, where, like he's going to play both sides, like I did and like I'm telling people all the time, travis Hunter is going to be a first round.

Speaker 1:

Bro his son, his son's, off the record. Bro, I see Quarterback. What are you?

Speaker 2:

doing. I'm talking he ain't done for 500 something yards. What's his son at Shadr Shadr?

Speaker 1:

Shadr, shout out to him man.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, bro, he, like I'm talking about this, is this old swag player. Now he ain't going to be good when he gets the patch way. Hang up a list of players.

Speaker 1:

Don't ever believe them lies. I was going to say he got talent. Don't never believe when no coach telling you about yourself.

Speaker 2:

You got talent.

Speaker 1:

You know you got talent. Find somebody who's going to respect it. But I love everybody, I remember being in the same position, bro, 17 times, like going to somewhere and they be like he ain't got the discipline. He ain't got that. I know what I can do, bro. Find somebody who trusts in what you can do.

Speaker 2:

Now, speaking of this, bro, a lot of y'all talking about, there's a lot of commotion going on with these coaches and stuff like that. Okay, A lot of people are just trying to coach it. Until you become I believe, until you become a real coach, you can't tell a coach what to do, because I'm telling you. Once them lies get on you, it's like easy to sit from them in that crowd and watch the coach mess up, do this and do that. Yeah, you can say this and that, but you ain't in that coach shoes. Now once, have you tried to go be a coach?

Speaker 1:

now, once you, you know what I'm saying yeah, they got coaching jobs all the time. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Go study your game and go be a coach.

Speaker 2:

Listen, go be a little, go be a little recreation coach first. Yeah, a little league.

Speaker 1:

That's why you started that recreation For real and if you really love sports, you're going to look at not just what the coach is calling like the actual game, so you can see the difference. Okay, he could do this, he could do this, he could do this, he did that. Now, I don't like that, but I see why. Yeah, so you really understand the game or understand coaching. You're really speaking from an obsolete point of view.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, a lot of y'all can say if your kids playing with the coach and you don't like the way the coach trash ready to play out Simple as that Simple as that, like coaches, got one of the hardest jobs in anything, cause you gotta think about all sports. You're ready to play with coach.

Speaker 1:

I just feel like, alright, my daughter now she started. She just started soccer. Yeah, smoons daughter. Just they just started soccer. We excited and you can't tell, and my daughter in gymnastics. So I'm super hyped and a little bit too hyped, honestly.

Speaker 1:

But for real I, as a sports player, I understand what the coach is there for. The coach is there to reinforce stuff that you're reinforcing at home. If you ain't teaching your kid nothing about sports at home, that ain't all the coaches fault. You gotta know that.

Speaker 1:

Now, if you teaching your kid, you can be behind your kid, you know, or behind the coach, or whatever. But you need to take your kid home and show them things, fundamentals, films, all kind of stuff, because at the end of the day it's going to show when they hit the field. And when you hit the field, the coach is going to say okay, every time, for whatever reason, when I call this, play, spoons are going to show up, nate's daughter or a spoons daughter show up, my daughter show up, it's going to be the difference Ain't nothing the coach can do but see what your kid going to do, and then they ain't never yet. So you can't say the coach ain't doing this, the coach ain't doing that, or if the coach, if your kid is doing what they're supposed to do and they doing what they're supposed to do and the coach ain't making like he said, get them out of the stuff.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, talk on politics now. That's a whole different ball game.

Speaker 1:

You gotta know it's politics and sports. You gotta know that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was listen. I heard Gilbert Arenas them on his podcast show talking about the Spurs. You know, papa, he won all the rings with his players. He trade this and that. Yeah, you know he got the number one draft pick coming up when he drafted in the morning. They was like, basically they said, since while Linda got traded last four years, he tanked to get the number one, get the number one draft pick. But Rashad McCann said a great point and he was like dude, as a player, you don't play to lose and that was the big topic deal of it. And because Gilbert Arenas was saying like, because it's business, we all know business behind the scenes I'm about to say something to him and say I was about to say, like after playing college.

Speaker 1:

I played college a year course playing high school ball. Everybody don't play to lose. Losing is different for different people. I know players like they don't care what the team was. I knew players and no players. They ain't care what the team went or not, as long as they got a certain amount of stats so they could go to the next level, or they could you know what I mean be the GSC player of the week or what. I'm not seeing it with my own eyes and we'll be laughing about. So I feel like some people.

Speaker 1:

Winning is definitely a perspective too, and, like I said, it's politics and sports. So if you know somebody like that on your team, of course they're going to drop 20. Of course they're going to go to the line 20 times because they trying to get some other goals. They ain't worried about the coach, though, because, at the end of the day, this coach is going to do what he's going to do, or whatever. But I know because who I am, I'm going to get what I want. I'm going to do that too. So I'm trying to go overseas, I'm trying to do whatever. So you really got him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because it was like the NBA was like, you know, it's more business anyway.

Speaker 1:

So it's about it's really about relationships.

Speaker 2:

I understood. I understood what they were saying. Like he coached a popularist tank, don't mean because Rashad M'Kannes was saying he's not a great coach and Gribble Reign is like, yes, he's definitely a great coach. They just he just they just take the last four years to get in the more draft Right.

Speaker 1:

They did it as a franchise.

Speaker 2:

And I was like Rashad M'Kannes is like, well, if he didn't build so many great players, why have he did it since Kuala? Because the spray has been ass since. What's his name? Rashad? What M'Kannes?

Speaker 1:

He ain't thinking right. Yeah, that's what he's. He's looking at his perspective, he's not looking at coaching.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's what. Yeah, that's what. He's not looking at the front office. That's what I'm saying. I made it everything positive. But he I seen both sides of it because Gribble was telling them like they they was taking because they were trying to get into one player. But Rashad was like if Pop was a great coach, why? Why he want to, why he just didn't build another? He had four years to build some more he players but he haven't did it. So that's why he was saying he wanted a great coach.

Speaker 1:

But I get it, but you can't take your samples. You can't take your samples. No, he didn't take it away.

Speaker 2:

He was just saying he wanted a great player because he haven't built four more. But Rashad M'Kannes says some off the wall shit.

Speaker 1:

Sound like? No, he do. I mean we out here, we just talking on the podcast, bro, whatever he got, great.

Speaker 2:

He got great conversations, good, good points. But I see, his points. I see his points. Sometimes it's probably the best of them in a way, because he's a competitor which I get there so well damn, he didn't in four years. You know how the generation is. You ain't in four years. You ain't a great coach, but you forgot about the first.

Speaker 1:

How long Pop?

Speaker 2:

being coach like Exactly he care about you, Rashad. Come on, bro he the coach, tim Duggan he the coach of all kinds. Yeah, they were like he like he didn't built the franchise over his, his, his, his career is made. Yeah, I'm saying like, so he gon.

Speaker 1:

he gon bring a good. He gon bring a number one draft to the, to the franchise, and then he probably gon do it. Yeah, so I got the guy. Yeah, so I get the guy.

Speaker 2:

So what you think about pairs of blame and they coaches for their kids not playing.

Speaker 1:

Like I said, I'm just like you, if my, if my, I'm my coach. When my daughter started playing, if she play high school, she got one year to see. You know, we got one year with the coach to see what's real. Because tripping on her and she I can tell she got more talent than the coach willing to give her the playing time or you playing the wrong or trying to get her hurt she out of there. Yeah, we gon play that. We'll go to another high school.

Speaker 2:

So what if your daughter is showing you one thing, but when she get there she show you a different one shot there, in front of everybody.

Speaker 1:

No, that's just something I feel like for me, being have been on a big stage where this musical sports, I definitely can coach her to like okay, if you nervous, or what's really good to her, spend some time with her and do the things I did. Man, I used to go to the course by myself, talk to myself. I used to go track and field. Like I said like, prepare myself, go out in my yard and do my own thing. It's ways you can, you know, figure things out. You gotta unlock this shit. Personally, that's me. Yeah, I don't know. You know I did what I and I'm still that type of person.

Speaker 1:

Like, if I'm playing a new gig like DJ, wise people be like man, this you know, played that before. How did you like? Why did you feel? Like I went? Y'all don't even know. Like before I play a gig, I go there the day before I go up there and stay in the hotel or whatever, wherever the place is, and go, stay before and look at the DJ who played like see how the crowd reaction. Like I do my work and I think, like anybody who trying to judge a coach off how your kid performing, you ain't really close with your kid because you gotta get with your kid, just like you gotta get with yourself about anything. And, like I said, if the coach is blatant that the coach you gotta get with yourself about is making bad whatever or bad decisions in my perspective, I gotta do something about that and you gotta be proactive. If you see your kid got potential, you gotta be proactive about that. If I gotta take her cover across town to another school so she can perform the way she need to perform, i'ma do that.

Speaker 2:

I think parents think that's cause their kids make the team they gotta play.

Speaker 1:

I'll go back to how you played before.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You really don't understand it.

Speaker 2:

I literally understand all the kids playing. But once you start getting to them middle schools, high school levels if your kid good, he good, he should be playing. But sometimes you gotta be honest about your kid. If he's not that great, they're playing. But if the whole team out there don't be in tragedy. He deserve to play. But your kid me personally, I'm a competitive person, right, you know what I'm saying. I don't wanna come out when we were about 20 and 30, but I understand, like hey, we are 20 and 30. I'm gonna sit my ass down, save my energy, let my guy get in let my guy get in, cause he ain't playin'.

Speaker 2:

Let him get the shine. You know what I'm saying. So you wanna feel like wasting time?

Speaker 1:

I always like to sit down, cause when it's time for battle, I'm ready to battle. You know what I'm saying? Like they ain't even battling, no more. I'm not feeling here hurting myself, yeah.

Speaker 2:

but a lot of parents think cause they pay that money, their kids gotta play.

Speaker 1:

No, that's a misconstruction. That's an investment. That's an investment Like that's an investment.

Speaker 2:

Parents, y'all gotta realize it. Like you know, I got girls coming up, growing up. They might not be the best player on the team, but Chalk it up. But you damn right, that's exactly hey, you gotta grind to get what that's your spot.

Speaker 1:

Chalk it up, you gonna take it. If you ain't got the money to put your kid in sports, don't put your kid in sports, cause he's gonna cost.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm telling you one of the hard I've been a coach. Listen, listen, listen. One of the hardest things in the game is to. You know, like she got seven players, you know you only got really three good solid players, but other players trying to catch up this and that, but it's like their parents, like why don't you put my kid in? Like your kid ain't came to practice in four days, man that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

But show up to the game. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Like show up to the game but he ain't came to practice the last four. No, your kid not gonna play. I don't care if I got, I don't care if I got six players on the court and willing to play five at a time.

Speaker 1:

It's nobody's fault to make your kid a better player, but yours. You gonna complain about it. Are you working with them at home? If you not working with them at home, I can't hear you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's how I'm like you ain't at every practice.

Speaker 1:

You ain't helping coach do anything If coach needs something, that's the kind of parent I am. I ain't even in soccer practice right now. Coach, like man, I got it. I'm like okay, cool.

Speaker 2:

You be out there, man, I don't play like I'm on my daughter. Won't you just become a coach?

Speaker 1:

If it's time, I will, but I would rather coach her specifically. I feel like those, that's what I needed. That's what I needed.

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm doing, so you be out there I mean every time.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying. Like, if the coach needs something, like you know they doing drills over here, he can only be on one side. I go to the other side. There's two other dads who do it too. We all just be like man, whatever we need, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I just said listen, I know my kid young this and that, so I know we just trying to figure out what sports she playing, so I sit back, let the coach do his thing. You know what I mean. Now, if my kid was got them a message or somebody and the coach was saying some bullshit, now we taking our ball, we going to the next team or we going somewhere else, See, I see it like if she always, you know, as long as I'm here, she know she got support.

Speaker 1:

I didn't really have that. My mom, she definitely liked that I played sports. She ain't come to much games, she was working on, she was tired, all different things. But I feel like it's one thing to be there to say, hey, I'm in the crowd. It's another thing to say, okay, I see what you did last, like all you got to do is tweak that just a little bit.

Speaker 1:

So if your parent doing that, when coach tell you, it ain't nothing for the coach to tell you when your dad, every sports guy, a lot of guys, I know that they had their dad in that corner. They went somewhere because they already was. Like, are they self disciplined before they ever come in? So coach is disciplined. The coach getting on your ass, on me.

Speaker 2:

It ain't nothing. I already been on mine. My dad is still on mine. You know what I'm saying Like whatever.

Speaker 1:

So that's why I want to get her to know. Same thing. Like aw man, my ankle hurt. Oh man, they got these new shoes. Nah, daddy, got you them new shoes. You know what I'm saying. Or whatever you want to look like, you gonna look like that. Whatever you want to, whatever you need to feel to perform, I didn't have that. So I you know what I'm saying. As long as she wants that or she needs that, I'm gonna be there to do that. Whether that's chill back or go for it, I can definitely sit my ass down too. I ain't gonna, probably. But like I know, sometimes, like I didn't know how to say something to the coach and I'm just like you know, I hope she get comfortable enough so she can be like damn, like I feel like coach was on me.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna go to the coach and say it Like I don't got, no problem.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Like you be going against the coach and when you be out there. No no never, never, never. Okay, I feel like you know some of them parents be like. You know, the coach can't tell you nothing but my dad telling me to do this, the coach telling me to do that. I'm gonna tell you to go straight to the coach before.

Speaker 1:

I was like, tell my daughter to do something the coach ain't doing. I'm like, hey, coach, what about if she did this instead of that? You know what I'm saying. Like she kicked left footy. I know you're trying to do them on this drill. Can she switch you?

Speaker 2:

know what I'm saying, to do it like, whatever you know what I mean, whatever it needs, to be to make sure she comfortable. Yeah, yeah. At one point the coach will get tired of you all ass coming up there.

Speaker 1:

I want you to go to coach well, if you get tired of me, we'll deal with that when I have.

Speaker 2:

You might want to go to coach bro.

Speaker 1:

Man, I'm just gonna go to coach, I'm just a personal coach.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I'd like I get what you're saying all the time, but you know how it comes to line up, Cause you know you see something not in this your purpose but, like you see something be like. The players don't listen to the coach, cause they always got their parents in here telling them to do one thing. Right, right, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1:

That's what I'm saying, but that's being a. It's one thing to be a parent who just being supportive, it's another thing to be a parent who knows sports. So if I, if, from the top, when we came in and Wade coaches presented itself to you, I want you on this team, I want to even have you yeah, you know what I'm saying. Like I said, the first year, wherever she played, if she played high school first year of the coaches and the whole sports, you know, Florence or whatever ain't accurate. We gone Go. We ain't gonna put in no work. We not finna, invest no time and nobody who ain't gonna invest in us.

Speaker 2:

I want you.

Speaker 1:

I definitely remember just after high school, just feeling like man I did all them years for nothing.

Speaker 2:

You thought about that. Hell yeah, bro, I'm telling you, I did not think, not one bit.

Speaker 1:

I worked my ass off. It was hard, like I mean it, for me.

Speaker 2:

So I was like man.

Speaker 1:

I'm not man, I just like. And then I ended up getting to play in college but it was just like. Walked on the college but it was just like man. I mean me and my cousin Cole like we used to hoop every day regardless and wasn't even about me playing high school, but it was just like man. I work hard for these coaches. They don't care if I become anything in life Like I really care. You know what I'm saying. Like you had good coaches, though I feel like at least you had a couple good coaches. My coach is not bad guys, but I'm just saying like, as a man, I feel like my coaches didn't teach me nothing I need. I feel like I want to definitely help her understand how sports can transfer or whatever the word is transforming your life and how it can help you in life. I didn't get that until I got older.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, my coaches for the most part. I just feel like they was in my high school coaches. It was all right, but they coached other shit. So you know what I mean. So they was a coach here. Then there go, coach they main school. I don't think like our coaches, I just think at Florence, when I went to Florence we just had bad time Cause I'm telling you once I got the after ninth grade.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I didn't know. I went backwards and learn this shit. You didn't learn nothing new. See, that's what I'm saying. Like we learned, like listen the way our coach, our coach was early on. Well, it was like coach Carter, like new, all you had, like his form guard knew all the place. I'm learning this in seventh grade now. You know all the place. Yeah, you know when this person be here, this person need to be there. Reason why you learn that shit because, hey, if I get two text Every game, I'm gonna get listen tech cuz I'll be fighting for y'all.

Speaker 1:

So if I get to text, that's a good coach though.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so if I get to text, I the way about coaching is. I'm sorry guys, we might be awful little topic but we listen to stop. Listen, I can't stand. I don't understand how a coach can coach sitting down. Like I don't understand that. Like, how do you coach in there? Alright, hey, johnny, go there, run over there. He'll know. Listen, I'm being goddamn they go. Hey, coach, school back. You cross the line. I'm down there in the middle of the court bro, it's too time.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna go this way a little bit with it to get up to get the mindset of. I feel like it's too trains of thought. Like you either like sports or you like your job, so you really got to understand what your coach, who your coach is this man here? Just cuz it's a job. He got position and he was associated with sports with the extra money from his teaching.

Speaker 1:

Yeah you know, I'm saying like you really got to see what's going on with the person. It ain't nothing wrong with either one, but you can't put your child or a good, talented child in a person like who just here to get a check hands Cuz they're not gonna in hand. No, no, no bar include, no bar needed, but they're not gonna enhance your child's future. They just they were about they check.

Speaker 2:

Oh you're talking to talk to me. I'm just saying, if they we come, we come to me, I mean.

Speaker 1:

I mean I'm just saying like if they can't, that coach ain't got no passion about the sport or about, like, making your child a better person. There's no way they're gonna make them a better player Because they don't care about the sport and they don't care about your child. They care about their money, and I'm not. It ain't nothing wrong with getting a check or having your money, but you got to realize, as a parent, where your child is, you can't blame that person for getting a check. You go to your job and get a check. You care about everybody there. So think about it like that. Don't think about it one way. But I'm the same with a way of spone, like I can't, like I said I can't be at practice with my daughter, just be sitting there. Yeah, I coach, you need that. Mom go do that, cuz we want this. I want my, I like to win, yeah, and I want my daughter to be able to perform and know what's going on and I want to see her, her, see me, support her.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a even more than anything, I want her to okay what the coach say. If coach say don't do nothing, I don't say nothing to my daughter, that practice she's still gonna be seeing me around here looking at her like, are you good, give me thumbs up. You know I'm saying like whatever or whatever, or good job. When she get down, like she had a little confrontation, what she bumped into a dude Both of them knock down. Both of them got knocked down. Both of them fish. You look them baby.

Speaker 2:

You On defense right now.

Speaker 1:

She looked up at me like you know, daddy, would you gonna do something? I say, hey, get up, you alright. Gave her the thumbs up. She gave me thumbs up, ran on down for you. I ain't never had a moment I had nobody looking at. I was looking at the Alvin, I was looking to the left where, like damn today, do me that, like what's going on? You, I feel like the stability, the mental stability of sports, like Associated with sports, starts at home. And if you don't get that, if you can't be, I ain't saying everybody go to your child's practice, I ain't saying do none of that, but if you can, try.

Speaker 2:

The support system is a major role in your kids like Early on cuz. You gotta understand all fast and not in Academician everything you gotta understand, though you install me young at a young gay. So when your kid get up Get up to start having their own kids they install the same stuff you put in there. It's just facts like nowadays. We got us. We fighting so much a generation curse. We got a restructure everything the world. Is some the world, changing every second of our life?

Speaker 2:

no, back to back then we wasn't our knowledge, we didn't have a lot of knowledge back there. But now, cuz social media, all this and that, everything is changing. So it's like I think about it, our parents looking at us, like how you doing this, how you doing that, I need to do that, help me get to what you were. It's like you looking like you, my parent. How did?

Speaker 1:

this happen.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so it's like. But you gotta understand, if you want mature about that, what she asked you like you supposed to be my parents, man, how you think I feel when I you know me Mother turn it back on a parent so quick. Yeah, you supposed to be my parents like, no, like you on this one. Sure, don't you a dog. You can be 60, you can be 27.

Speaker 1:

No, it's a dog and we always all learning, always always trying to learn different, but like like what's most like.

Speaker 2:

But people I just don't understand like. People like your mama help you get so far, but once your mama mess up why you make me do this, why you make me? Do that Like dude. I'm a freak, just what you freeze.

Speaker 1:

I'm a human man. A lot of times, until somebody have a kid, you really don't understand what you do, what they going through like you don't know what they went through as as as as a.

Speaker 2:

Stepfather first before I had my own kid show but I took her a lot of kids. But I can return the answer at the end, hey right. Here you go. I got my own family. Oh man, like it's. There's nothing like what the bruh Listen here I honestly let. I grew up. I grew up like I had a lot of issues when I was little.

Speaker 1:

Don't get me wrong. I didn't understand life in general. I didn't understand life.

Speaker 2:

I did a lot of good stuff, but I didn't understand why I was doing a lot of good stuff. I didn't understand how I got to this point. I had a lot of great mentors, but it wasn't coming from your folks like your control. It was outside of people bleeding more than your inside.

Speaker 1:

Which is a blessing too. It's different, though. It seemed like the people at home should be the ones. As a kid, that's a little bit of a form of confusion, Because you're like how does somebody who don't know me support me?

Speaker 2:

but it's just love, but they don't know the knowledge that that person knew outside.

Speaker 1:

Right, right, right. That was the whole thing.

Speaker 2:

That's why I had to double back and be like dang. I understand why y'all was doing this, doing that from mama, auntie, cousin. Y'all stuck in a little small cubicle, Sure, Compared to the outside person that had seen this, that had been out there and spoiled, that had been around a lot of great people, a lot of culture and travel and do different things.

Speaker 2:

So that's what made me easy to forgive all that stuff. I thought that was holding me back. It was hurting me inside Because my fuck didn't understand. Anyway, right, you can't get mad at somebody.

Speaker 1:

How you gonna teach me what you don't know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

What's going to say? Stupid is a stupid done.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, that's why I was just like man. It was just cool. It was cool just like. I don't mind when somebody tell me something. I don't know what somebody tell me. Tell somebody else, cause I know it's great information. I don't mind if my mama, somebody, my auntie's, asked me like what about this, what I think about this, I don't mind telling her what I'll do it this way, but sometimes you got to do it that way cause that's your best option, exactly. You know what I'm saying, right, I can't get a partner's pocket.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's weird.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, bro, people do it all day though.

Speaker 1:

I mean like to what extent, though?

Speaker 2:

You gotta think about it. Say we coming in, all right, we coming in fresh, getting podcast money. Mugs start, mugs start, start watching what's going on over there. I see your shoes changing. I see that shirt change yeah, every day. Now there was some $1,500 shirts now. I know I know my income coming in from the split from podcast. I know your income split coming in. What else you doing outside of this?

Speaker 1:

I think it's insecurity, bro, you think so. I definitely think it's insecurity If you really gotta. That's one thing. Somebody owe you some money. It's one thing if they lying to you about it and then they been making bread, but it's another thing just to be a pocket watcher like damn, I always come in on dang. You just got this, so dang Spoon, you coming up again dang dang when I hear all them dangs.

Speaker 1:

I be like what's going on? You saying dang or dang, cause you don't give a damn about me. That's what you saying.

Speaker 2:

Damn hating, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:

So I definitely you know what I'm saying. Especially DJing and stuff people like dang. They should be everywhere Dang. You got these girls Dang, dang, dang. I was like bro, it ain't what you think, it is what you're listening to.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, or whatever the thing you're getting that they want. Yeah, it's a sense of envy in that, for real. Like I said, jealousy is sure, but I mean, if somebody coming up, you celebrate. If it's somebody close to me, you gonna celebrate, I just celebrate them. That's all I like. If somebody do something for me, I just celebrate it. That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2:

My God, I was like my boy. We need to chop it up.

Speaker 1:

Let's go get a little lunch or something.

Speaker 2:

You ain't gotta tell me everything, cause people like I look at it like people gonna tell you enough but they not gonna tell you everything. Like you can reach out for advice from somebody. I'm like, bro, how you, how you say, for where does you use this, our platform? How you, how you get people to, how you stay connected with your people, how you, how you got a hundred thousand followers, this and that she bro, I just posted it. Every day I stay consistent, this and that. Yeah, well, it's like, like it's funny. It's funny you said that way. This is the key ingredient.

Speaker 1:

But it's like it's some things you can't really explain, like, oh, you don't even think when somebody say what you did to do that. Like man, I don't even remember what all I did to get you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Like what all I had to study I ain't write it down, but like I feel like it's big right now on the, on the influencer, and like social media like to start making how-to videos. Why are you doing something and then make that content later? So like that's, I guess, like cause, a lot of times when you doing something, man, like you know God might give you an idea or somebody else might give you inspiration. You try something and it work for you. Then you, low key, forget about it. So like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Listen, when it comes to shit like that, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. I'm sorry that's bullshit, bro, you just gotta stay consistent, isn't that? Like I'm gonna tell you, bro, you need to use the proper hashtags. You need to. You need to find you like yo, you like your niche. You need to find like what people watching your videos the most, what time frames. You need to find, like I, when to when to share it when your people watch. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Your time's up.

Speaker 2:

Like. It's a lot of key ingredients to go into when you study, bro. Gotta, stay consistent, bro. Let's keep dropping content, like bro. I just feel like I don't want to take you anywhere.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

That's the part of it, but but they'll tell you once they feel like you on that level with them like bro.

Speaker 1:

Then they start boarding their bag like shit bro. I got through a mark in the age, so it's a thing, though, like you saying, basically you saying like they not gonna give away the game till you got something to give back.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Like you know what I'm saying, which kind of makes sense though? Yeah, but it does make sense, cause you never know.

Speaker 1:

but it's like, bro, I mean, every time we got fucked, we're dappin' good I was finna say, unless, like you said, it's a real relationship, then I just feel like, if it's a real relationship, though, you're gonna be around them enough to pick up on them yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying, like, if it's like we really kick it or we really like boys or whatever, homies or whatever, like, oh shit, I just watch it. That's how you did that. You know what I'm saying? Like shit man, I ain't even taking time to explain cause I ain't been thinking about, I been so on on, get on go. I ain't even thought about how to explain it. Yeah, we do do that.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean? Well, I also got to look at it. So it's like easy to look at it, cause, like I don't really know each other from a can of paint, right, I ain't even tell this nigga before I didn't even go take my idea and blow up more than me.

Speaker 1:

Right, or just like you probably ain't gonna listen to it anyway.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you don't know me. Yeah, you don't know me. That's how I be feeling, Like I definitely about the DJ stuff.

Speaker 1:

I definitely put people on man, but a lot of people just didn't listen.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't mind, I give all of them what I know I can do.

Speaker 1:

I try to always be that way. I mean some stupid girls, guys. I done tried it. Hey man, I want to be a DJ, all right, this is what I did.

Speaker 2:

Hey man, it's a vessel and this shit ain't cheap. None of this shit cheap, I'm telling you right now.

Speaker 1:

I bought all my equipment I play shows for free. I done a lot of things but people don't even understand. Like now you blow up like whatever, whatever. I did the hard work.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I did the hard work.

Speaker 1:

I definitely did a lot of free shows. So now people call me like nigga, you do that. I can't do it.

Speaker 2:

I did that already.

Speaker 1:

That's what. But the people, you know, people think you stuck up, People think you, you know, trying to be holy to now, or bigger than whatever, and it's like man, Hollywood or whatever, and it's like man. You can think what you want to about me. You know my bill paid. You're right. I can't double back on where I'm at. I can't go back on for you.

Speaker 2:

Could you do a massage? Therapist? Wow, to repeat the question, could you do a massage? Therapist A massage therapist Yep, I'm gonna be scared, not the internet ones, but yeah, what you mean? What's the difference?

Speaker 1:

You know the ones in there. They got them ones to be the happy end is oh going crazy.

Speaker 2:

All over, bro, listen, could you do that one? Yes, no man, you dodging around the question. Why are you scared?

Speaker 1:

It depends on the person.

Speaker 2:

bro, you scared, Come on man, why are you scared, bro? Listen, I'll be real with you. If I knew, I started liking massage therapists. That's what she do, that's what I said Me. I was with you, as long as you don't be pulling up, bro. If I'm, if I'm, if I'm getting to that point of dating a massage therapist why are you even questioning this one?

Speaker 1:

I'm not questioning at all.

Speaker 2:

I'm not questioning at all, I'm just asking.

Speaker 1:

I'm not questioning because you think she's rubbing on somebody's balls. Exactly that's what.

Speaker 2:

I'm saying I wouldn't eat me. Personally I wouldn't, I wouldn't date one.

Speaker 1:

That is the.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I wouldn't date one me personally.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But I definitely don't get that massage dude. Listen, listen. Like I just always said, why set yourself up, or something like that, which ain't?

Speaker 1:

no, no, with me. All the girls thought massage therapists. You don't know, I'm a thought therapist, I'm a thought therapist, I'm thinking about. I heard it here, I'm thinking about all that. I told you I was a munch. I told you I was.

Speaker 2:

I only can think about what I'm going to go with.

Speaker 1:

I don't see no problem with it, bro.

Speaker 2:

But you're super mature. To me, though, you're super mature.

Speaker 1:

Me, I'm like, I try to be, I'm calling you a bro.

Speaker 2:

I got this massage therapist. Well, who who? It's all.

Speaker 1:

You silly man. I ain't never really thought about it honestly, but I don't really see no problem. It feels like a professional massage place, not no rinky dinky, like you see, ain't no telling. But like this place has got cameras, they got everything, so I ain't worried about it, I'm sure it'll get you.

Speaker 2:

You worried about it? Why you thinking deep?

Speaker 1:

I just really trying to think about it. Yeah, it's a question I'm trying to answer, bro, you couldn't date one, that's you. That's you, my guy.

Speaker 2:

So you want date one, I need, I need to date one right now.

Speaker 1:

I'm back, right so bad.

Speaker 2:

Listen, I need to go, lord of mercy, I need to get a massage.

Speaker 1:

I need to go to car break.

Speaker 2:

Like one of my homegirls. Like one of my homegirls, I need to get an album massage. Don't say nothing. I go to sleep.

Speaker 1:

Don't wake me up, my fart, don't say a word. Fan it out the way I got the money, just go ahead, let's get into it.

Speaker 2:

Let's get into it what you think about this, miguel. Oh my God, who, miguel?

Speaker 1:

Miguel, she was hanging up like a little fish.

Speaker 2:

Explain to our people if they haven't said it.

Speaker 1:

Oh my God, miguel Nah man, I love Miguel, I love his music. So I don't know what city he was in, but like so I forget what it's called, but he has his back pierced and they took, they had hooks and put them like big, big piercings. Yeah, so apparently he had been working on this, but I don't even know how to explain this. So he had two back, two hooks in his back, and he got raised up, he was performing she's performing to the song, like, while the thing picked him up on the hooks and I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Miguel, listen here bro.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I know there's some kind of S&M. Taboo Miguel, it's too late for that in your career. Farley Bro, I'm just we got bro what you got to say everybody, because I'm finna, go ham bro.

Speaker 2:

Listen, none of your songs got you talking about blood dripping down and this and that, Bro. We just want to hear a sure thing, bro.

Speaker 1:

I just said, I just said what you said earlier about the hooks.

Speaker 2:

What you said earlier about the hooks.

Speaker 1:

I don't want to hear the hook in your songs, bro.

Speaker 2:

We don't want to see you hanging from the raptors, bro. Like bro, that's not even like what put your body through. That he's talking about the self-healing this and that, bro, get out of here, bro.

Speaker 1:

So my boy say we are out.

Speaker 2:

I don't think I want to hear your hooks on your song, bro.

Speaker 1:

I don't want to see you on those hooks.

Speaker 2:

I don't want to see your fish hooks bro.

Speaker 1:

We don't want to see you on those hooks Like that's my opinion. You just singing hooks, bro.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, singing hooks bro, that's it.

Speaker 1:

And then I'm just like bro, like you did all this for all your career. I get like trying to be new or trying to do something like what's next.

Speaker 2:

Bro, I'm like him, like damn McGill. I was shit, bro. That's what I tell him.

Speaker 1:

You don't need all the hooks, you just sing good hooks and we going to mess with you Like what?

Speaker 2:

you do after performing with my boy Like that's bro, I know you got the album coming. He got the album coming Right.

Speaker 1:

I guess you think he did it for social media.

Speaker 2:

Fuck yeah, like you don't need McGill, you're a shit thing. Like boy, you're a shit thing. Your song is really a shit thing. Like that's what I'm saying. Like you, mcgill, you don't need all that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he went too far, right, bro, in my opinion, my humble opinion. I don't want like McGill. And then, bro, they hung us. Bro, why you hanging yourself?

Speaker 2:

Boy, listen here. Boy Lord, how much McGill we been hanging. We been hung for years. Man, what are we doing? You still hanging us Like you right here. What are we doing? Like? I just don't understand. I listen, mcgill All right.

Speaker 1:

No shirt on my boy up there in leather pants, Like what we going with this McGill.

Speaker 2:

Boy, that was a. I can't believe you approved this shit. You know you're people, bro, cause that damn horse pierced you Back there with the fish.

Speaker 1:

That shit coulda ripped your skin. Man, my boy was hanging up there like a little catfish, like a little small mouth McGill, small mouth, mcgill, small mouth, mcgill. A large mouth R&B singer. What the hell, bro, I get it. You know what I'm saying With the crazy stuff, whatever, put that in the bedroom or something I guess I don't know. Put it in the bedroom. I feel like that's what they do. I don't know, bro.

Speaker 2:

I'm not into you know what I'm saying that kind of situation, but like I just think you had a bad dose or something Approved that shit like that, bro, you think you got a bad dose? I don't think you got a bad dose, man you must be eating worms. Well, what make him this like his career as far as the ladies is his career, what make him do something like that? He don't need no shock value, we just need a great hook Like that's not even like so McGill.

Speaker 1:

he know for his hooks.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he know he's fine with the hooks. He's fine with the hooks for real.

Speaker 1:

Apparently. Yeah, bro, you want to show us a different side of the hook.

Speaker 2:

Bro, that's crazy. I'm sorry. You can sing a hook and you can.

Speaker 1:

You can hook.

Speaker 2:

You hook on phonics yeah no crown hook. Yeah, he ain't.

Speaker 1:

Oh God McGill listen, somebody stop us.

Speaker 2:

Listen, mcgill, I know you want to take that incident back bro. All that self-healing you talking about. You got to know your strength or your?

Speaker 1:

body Bullshit. You don't want to the best to ever sing, you want to the best to ever do it. You got mad love, mad respect, but that just won my cup of tea, bro it won a lot of people. I guess he ain't doing it for dudes or whatever. No, you don't. I hate you, bro. Do you think he did it for the chicks, or?

Speaker 2:

something. No for now, bro.

Speaker 1:

I know he didn't do it for the chicks, the chicks want to see him hanging up there like a little rack of ribs.

Speaker 2:

What chick.

Speaker 1:

You don't want to see a motherfucker hanging up there Fish scales, no, maybe like some white chicks or something.

Speaker 2:

No, bro, hell. No, mcgill is one. He's trying to sell somebody.

Speaker 1:

My boy was hanging up there like a little rack of lambs, like a little lamb meat, what's?

Speaker 2:

going on. I was trying to say something, but it was going to make us get demodiatized. Yeah, that's right. Alright, guys, this episode of Let it Rain Pots.

Football, Freestyling, and Podcast Updates
Coaching, Player Views, and Sports Politics
Parents' Role in Coaching and Support
The Role of Coaches in Sports
Insecurity, Consistency, and Pursuing Success
Discussion on Miguel Controversial Career Move