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WAYNE ON YOUTUBE
The Tedcast is a deep dive podcast exploring the masterpieces that are Ted Lasso on Apple TV+ and Wayne on YouTube.
Sponsored by Pajiba and The Antagonist, join Boss Emily Chambers and Coaches Bishop and Castleton as they ruminate on all things AFC Richmond.
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Coach Bishop
Coach Castleton
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Producer: Thor Benander
Producer: Dustin Rowles
Producer: Dan Hamamura
Producer: Seth Freilich
Editor: Luke Morey
Opening Theme: Andrew Chanley
Opening Intro: Timothy Durant
MORE FROM COACH BISHOP:
Studioworks: Coach Bishop
Unstuck AF: Coach Bishop's own podcast
Align Performance: Coach Bishop's company
MORE FROM THE ANTAGONIST:
Mind Muscle with Simon de Veer - Join professional "trainer to the stars" Simon de Veer as he takes you through the history, science and philosophy of all the fads and trends of modern health and fitness.
Welcome to our Ted Lasso Talk, the Tedcast. Welcome all Greyhound fans, welcome all you sinners from the dog track and all the AFC Richmond fans around the world. It's the Lasso Way around these parts with Coach, coach and Boss, without further ado, coach Castleton.
Speaker 3:Okay, welcome back, beautiful people. Today we're discussing Wayne, episode 10, buckle the Fuck Up. This is Part 3 in our continuing coverage. I am your host, coach Castleton. With me, as always, is Coach Bishop.
Speaker 2:Hey there, bear boy.
Speaker 3:Okay, was that Reggie?
Speaker 2:I went for a little Reggie there, Okay good.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's good, that's beautiful. And with us is the Reggie of our crew, our boss, emily Chambers.
Speaker 4:I mean, we know goddamn well, I'm not Reggie For number one.
Speaker 3:I've never had braces, so I don't have any stupid shit on my teeth. Oh, that's the distinction.
Speaker 4:Thank you for setting us straight about the I think we need to get realistic that I am a combination of della and tracy, if anything I'm just saying if anyone would wear a grill.
Speaker 3:No, absolutely not. The three of us, absolutely not. You don't like?
Speaker 4:that kind of flash. I I can barely wear earrings.
Speaker 3:I don't wear jewelry, I don't all right, yeah, so you're saying Coach would because he's black.
Speaker 4:Yes, that's really funny. That's exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:It's a really good job hearing that. That's good, nice job.
Speaker 3:One minute and 10 seconds in Welcome everybody.
Speaker 3:All right. So Coach is in the firing line. What the fuck man? I'm just sitting here, I'm coming. Okay, we in the fire, like what the fuck man? I'm just sitting here coming.
Speaker 3:Um, okay, we are going to jump right into uh wayne. Um, when we last left, uh, uh, our, uh, the titular character here, uh, he was in the akala police department's headquarters and, um, we got a brilliant speech from steven karen, who plays sergeant uh, steven geller, and uh, the last thing he said to Wayne was I hope I see you back in Brockton, I really do. Then we push in on a shot of Wayne, where he's considering that, still looking angry but pensive, and he had taken the bait enough to ask whatever happened to Detective Geller's father's um, uh, father, last time I saw him, he was selling incense on a beach somewhere, um, and so maybe the message did get in. We don't know at this point. Um, when we pick up the action, we cut to reggie. Coach's favorite does impressions of him, and Reggie is wearing a sleeveless camo t-shirt, which is, you know, it's a look, it's a choice, it's a look, it's definitely a shirt that's for sure he wanted his arms to stand out.
Speaker 4:He's hiding the rest of himself in order to contrast it.
Speaker 3:When you look at. We often make Judge a book by its cover and make spot on, um, uh sort of impressions of people by their looks. Uh, as someone who has struggled with weight problems, I will tell you that one of the first things people react to is weight. They see you a little thick and that's it, uh, and so that's really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we don't have a sidebar on that now, but at some point I would love to have that conversation.
Speaker 3:I think that is a fascinating part of our society, but anyway, well, it's like, uh, it's like one of the you know we say like the last refuge of legal, legal racists is uh, irish and italians. You can still make fun of them legally. The last refuge of of uh, uh, you know, shaming or that kind of thing is uh, overweight people, um, the uh. I just called this out because francesco antonio, who plays reggie, you look at his arm, that is a thick arm and it's not thick in a way like, oh, he's a ripped bodybuilder, cut, it's like a guy who is country thick in a way. Right, yeah, and if you look up francesco antonio, he is, he's, he's slim.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was surprised by his headshot. I was like oh, okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he is a very fit individual, like six-pack, thin, and to play this role. He very clearly was one of those guys that either came in I don't know enough about him to know if he came into the role with this type of physique or if he sort of played around with it in the process to get there but it works effortlessly with the spirit of what Reggie is, because you know, reggie's strong, Reggie's not a pushover.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, no, no no.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but he's not defined. It's not like oh, let's see the striations in his tricep. It's like he's thick, double C thick, and it works. Now we find him. It's hard to say what's happening here, but the subtitles say Puma Snarling, which is always a good sign. Boss, walk us through what is happening in this scene please.
Speaker 4:He is releasing from a cage the best animal in the world Puma, obviously while the exotic animal owner that he previously got into a fight with is locked in a cage. So as they pull back, it's very clear that Reggie has been going around and letting all of the animals loose. Well, the poor guy is saying you know you can't let the animals out. And he says, well, maybe you need to review your return policy. So, whatever Reggie is doing, bitch, obviously bitch. Whatever Reggie is doing whatever his plan is here.
Speaker 4:I don't even know if I knew at the time if this was still. He's just going back to fuck with the guy again, Like he was still just pissed off, so he needed to roll up and complain about his alligator one more time.
Speaker 3:It feels straight. So it felt out of place. Originally when he had the Cayman or the alligator little gator, whatever he bought from the guy who said, you know he was having trouble feeding him. I gave him a sub or sandwich, I forget what he what he had fed him. Um, the guys like you shouldn't feed him that and try to return him. He's like there's no returns and reggie beat him up. So it is a weird place to revisit this, but uh, they had to. They were locked in because it's so, uh, it's so integral to what happens next that you can't skip this. And and I'm guessing it was written out of order and they had to fix it and sort of work it in. But it's a good mechanism. Actually I hadn't thought of it. I thought it was unique and thoughtful and inventive and I'm sure there's some Greenpeace supporters on our listener community who don't mind seeing animals let go. And and the guy, the poacher, stuck in a cage.
Speaker 2:So I think generally yes, but I think too they might worry that releasing a Puma.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:In a residential area might not end well for the puma or the people. So I somehow, somehow reggie. Reggie seems to have. Uh, he, he may be doing the right thing for the wrong reasons. I'm getting a funny feeling.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think in this case he's actually doing the wrong thing for the wrong reasons, like the desire to not have animals in cages makes a lot of sense, but if I rolled up to lincoln park zoo and was like the lions are free now, I would still be fucking up real big because that's still, that's fair, and I don't even I didn't realize they were so close to you know, we see later that it's a residential community where this sort of goes down, but I was like I thought they're out in the in the bush here.
Speaker 3:This looks like wilderness to me, but um yeah, interesting yeah, no, I think.
Speaker 4:I feel like even if you could get to the place within like 30 minutes, it's still too close to humans, that's animals can run fast by that yeah now, and so that's in terms of the storytelling.
Speaker 2:I would like to point out here that, um, there's some really efficient framing in terms of the camera work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and, like we, if you really think about how much space we actually see here, it is not a lot of space these the cages are pushed into each other and I I just think of this because if you've ever been like, all right, how are we going to get this shot. But I really appreciated they got a shot sort of like from behind using fencing. Then they used the different cages to create some depth and we've got our poacher sort of in the distance there a little bit. They create depth that way. So, anyway.
Speaker 2:I just think they didn't have a lot of money. It looks like to me, to my eye. But man oh man, do they take advantage of what they've got? Nothing seems to have gone to waste. People talk about making sure it's all up there on the screen. I get the sense that it's all up there on the screen with them. Yeah, I mean, listen, let's call out the fact of the matter that it's all up there on the screen with them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, listen, let's call out the fact of the matter. I have a friend who was shooting a film during COVID and they were supposed to shoot in a jungle and they couldn't because it was a thing called COVID. And so what they did is they took a parking lot and they brought in potted plants which you're like, that can't be. And then I saw how it turned out and you just go oh my God. So you know, a director's best friend is a good AD, a good assistant director. Uh, art, the art department, uh, series um wayne. Uh, production designed by aiden larue, the art direction by joel richardson, set decoration by crystal ann conroy. Uh, and then costume designed by julia potkos and megan oppenheimer. And if you get these department heads knowing what they're doing, they can make your life so much easier, especially if you're a new director and they're a veteran. They can save you. They'll say, oh, here's how it's going to play out, and they can save you some steps, um.
Speaker 2:So, yes, this is, this, is your, just to jump in quickly framing coach, that what you just called out, and there are things that people don't realize, like oh, the director, the what you just said about assistant director, I personally benefited from and a good ad.
Speaker 3:Literally saves, saves entire projects yeah no, like, it's like the one thing you don't be done, never, never you get a good ad. It changes the mood on ad. Basically for people that don't know, coach, explain what an ad? Assistant director basically runs the set.
Speaker 2:So to the point where they might even call um, you know action and cut once. The director tells you know, sort of, says it, and then they're the one who kind of relays that you know the loud, the loud yelling of action.
Speaker 3:Not every director feels the need to call action right, so sometimes you just it's just something you don't, a job you don't want and right so.
Speaker 2:So you just sort of hand out, which I did and I'm glad I did. But yeah, they run the set and it's like they figure out what goes where and that relationship can be critical. Lunch break was coming and I had been ruthless about the schedule, like I did, like I was so respectful of resources and the rules and not getting us in any penalties and I I'd been just on my P's and Q's with that and um Penalties coach a lot for people.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry Going over in time If you go in very strict rules in terms of how many hours people can work in a row, and then they have to have lunch or they have to have a break. It's all very spelled out.
Speaker 3:Because of things called unions.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I heard those are terrible though.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, really bad to work out, to look out for workers.
Speaker 4:I'm going to quit the podcast. We don't do not joke about unions. We fucking love a union love you no, no, we're making we're advocating.
Speaker 2:Here there's a great meme of uh, I want to say like a hyena and whatever animal, whatever, and then it says under it it says we don't need a union, we're all family here, which is like my favorite ever it's just 100 it's like what are we talking about?
Speaker 2:anyway, so there are all these rules, and so I went so. But this day I needed this scene and I was like, if we do this scene and then break for lunch and then come back to this scene, the performance is gonna suck. That's what I was just like there's no way to like get back to here. And so I went to the AD and was like, listen, like I don't know what else we can do, but I'm looking for your permission to go into the penalty here. Here's why blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2:And I'm convinced that it was because I had been so clearly on his side and figuring out how to make it all work. But he totally was like yeah, I'll call, I'll call the production office right now and get permission, and dah, dah, dah. And they and they did it. But that's, that's the beauty of it too, not just that they keep you on schedule, but they know, okay, if we break this rule, right, like, then we can't do that thing that we were hoping maybe we'd sneak in and you have to make choices, but they're invaluable, absolutely invaluable to a director yeah, uh, look at this shot, the coach, the shot that you call out, um, what's fascinating.
Speaker 3:I just said, uh, oh, we're covered. They brought in potted plants. Look in the right side of the frame here, and here's the thing. There's no. What makes me think this is florida is the ferns I saw in the background, and then, if you look, that's a, that's a potted, that's a potted fern. And if you, if you look at the trees in the background, right, there's one big, big sort of, uh, big sort of leaf in the in the left side of the frame. But look at the trees in the back, this could be rhode island. Those are, those are deciduous trees.
Speaker 3:That's funny, right so again yeah, it further emphasizes your point like, hey, what do we need? And and, and you know, let's keep it tight and put the right things in and see if we, if we can cheat in a tiny bit, especially when you're working with a with a shoestring budget.
Speaker 4:I like so much that that is a Hollywood thing, because I learned recently LA itself is they don't have palm trees there. Indigenous, indigenously they brought all those in Right. And they only live like a hundred years. So now they're all dying. So like the entire idea of LA as being sort of tropical.
Speaker 2:It's all fake. It's amazing. It's kind of an amazing thing to think about.
Speaker 4:That's hilarious to me.
Speaker 3:So uncool that you would connect fakeness with Hollywood. I think that's uncool.
Speaker 4:It's so funny to me they're not even real trees.
Speaker 3:Meanwhile, you know, Chicago gets to have a football team.
Speaker 4:Kind of A little bit. I will say this year.
Speaker 3:Can't eat my words.
Speaker 4:I will fully admit Illinois does not naturally have bears. That is definitely a thing. Not a lot of bears. No bears Also no socks, which is wild.
Speaker 3:Okay, so we got Reggie. He locks up this dude. Of course he has a toothpick in his mouth and then he struts away. We open the next scene with a shot of a foot in a kiddie pool, like you do. And boss, what are we? We pan up the foot Interesting camera move to start Like we go from the foot in the pool up the calf shin area. And then who will this show us is at the top of the knee here, coach.
Speaker 2:We are looking at, mom, just you know, having a good old time, you know, as one does after telling your son to get the fuck out of here. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4:Yeah, after you tell your 16-year-old son, whose father has recently died, that he can't stay with you, and then your boyfriend and his son tried to kill him, and then your boyfriend and his son and your son are all arrested, you, you chill out in your baby pool just drinking and hanging out.
Speaker 3:mother of the year what time, of what time of day do you say? It is right now.
Speaker 4:Well, it should be late afternoon of the same day as this fight happened, as the attempted murder happened, I think. I don't think that we've had any sort of overnight, but it might be the next morning.
Speaker 2:I thought mid-afternoon, that's what I thought.
Speaker 3:I have a sister-in-law who. Did you just say it's wine o'clock. Yeah, yeah, I literally took the words I was saying. I have a sister-in-law who does like you know, like I'll have a glass of wine and like the pour is the most obscene thing you've ever seen. You know, at like 1.30, like after You're like, oh my God, it at like 1.30 after lunch. It's like half a bottle of wine friend yeah it's like a big gulp of wine.
Speaker 2:And you go, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3:It's a lot of fun. It just hits different. No, listen, they've earned it. They're hard workers, my brother and his wife. So, yeah, we pan up to Maureen McNulty. She's got a rag over her head. I was like what is Her?
Speaker 4:head is back. Yeah, it's a full washcloth. Is she passed out?
Speaker 3:or is she just getting? But is it cold? It didn't look wet to me it was.
Speaker 4:That was the point. Oh, it was. She's been there long enough that the sun dried it. She wants to be tanning, so she has her feet in the pool and the washcloth over her head to stay a little bit cool, so she could still get her base in. Is this shot in Florida, you think?
Speaker 3:Meh, I mean, why might you think it's shot in Florida?
Speaker 4:Oh, it's the flamingos walking around in the background.
Speaker 3:They're so natural. Yep, that's it. Plastic flamingos are native to Florida, and so, all of a sudden, what happens here, coach, is to wreck her sort of personal seance. What is going on?
Speaker 2:A dog barks rather scruffy-looking dog, maybe not the cutest dog ever and the barking is because someone's coming and that someone is.
Speaker 3:Delilah, here's what I like. The dog goes up. She doesn't hear it. She's out of it enough that she doesn't hear an approaching dog. It sits by her and then it barks once and just scares the living bejesus out of her right so close, and then it trots off. She goes. Jesus christ, like what the hell Like? This shakes her out of her, out of her coma.
Speaker 2:And then she looks up and she sees who coach, she sees Dell barreling toward her and goes Jesus Christ, that's great, that's great. And then Delilah, in full Delilah, where the fuck is he? You orange bucket of wine, which is a definite great opening salvo when you want help. And then look what you made me do. You made me drop my Pinot Grigio, which made me laugh.
Speaker 3:That's a good line. That's a line I might absorb into my daily life. You know what I mean. So I can say it to my kids, just like if I spill my coffee or something I'll say, look at me, Maybe drop my peanut grease, that's a good.
Speaker 2:That's an accessible line. What I love is she's constantly trying to dress her life up, and for me that was part of what was so fucking great about it. It's like, ma'am, your feet are in a kiddie pool. I don't even know how to describe what's going on in this piece of land you call home, but you drink Pinot Grigio, so obviously that's classy.
Speaker 3:It's so funny to me. You know what that is over on the left, by the way. See that little metal tower thing. You know what that is over on the left, by the way. See that little metal tower thing.
Speaker 2:You know what that is?
Speaker 3:No, Do you see that sort of metal? Okay, you see like there's a speaker on the far left. Yeah, yeah, yeah, then there's like a bunch of crappy plastic chairs and some ferns. You know what that is behind it.
Speaker 4:Mm that makes sense as right, that's a focus. No, no, no, that's that. That checks out. Um, so there is another line coming up later that I'm going to reference. But what you just said, coach, about the pinot grigio is exactly the same way that I felt when, uh, she was talking about her pottery, because castleton yes, you said like this is oh well, she's trying to improve her life, she's trying to better it, she wants it fancier.
Speaker 4:But what she said about the pottery was I thought I would meet somebody who looks like Patrick Swayze. There weren't any guys like Patrick Swayze, so I quit so I don't. I have never thought that she's actually trying. She is trying to fancy it up, but that's not like out of some sort of deep desire to better herself as a person. It's because she wants to be fancy. So she's like oh, I'm only going to drink the fanciest one. I said that to mislead you.
Speaker 3:I said that to mislead you before you had seen the. I was trying to I was trying to get you to feel a certain way, so that when, so that when you saw the next episode, you would have more, more of a holy shit response. But but listen I am ideally if you could forget the things I say. Try to not try to use them against me.
Speaker 4:No, uh, that might be also. I need to level with you last week, um, my boss, who is a nice guy and I genuinely get along with and I think he's good at his job, but I need to teach him how to manage me. Damned, with faint praise right, he's good at his job, but I need to teach him how to manage me with faint praise right, he's great at his job. What he needs to figure out is how, how to manage me, how I am best managed how might anyone accomplish?
Speaker 4:no ideas but one of the things you definitely don't do is ask me to do a bullshit nothing task with the goal. What he wanted was for me to work with these other people in a different department. He was like I want you to collaborate with them. He was like so, come up with a schedule. And I'm like well, I know what a calendar is, so I'm just going to look at the calendar and come up with a schedule and then send it to them for their sign off. And he was like next time, I want you to like talk to them more, get their input, maybe have a meeting. And I was like okay, so, number one, I don't need to do that. I know how to collaborate with people. You don't need to help me with this skill. I was like number two if you ever try to trick me into learning something again, I'm going to quit.
Speaker 3:I just need you to know that. Yeah, did you say that to?
Speaker 4:him. I said that literally to him. I was like don't trick me into learning something. I'll learn what I need to know, Don't worry about that. Okay, so this is a little bit. You don't need to trick me into holy shit about Maureen. I saw Maureen coming miles away.
Speaker 3:The only thing. Everything you said just irritated me slightly. That's true for everything I say. So who cares? But, boss, what you didn't pick up on was coach. All Coach does. He's a gutless coward where you're concerned and he just spot checks and rubber stamps all of your abysmal ideas he is catching the most strays.
Speaker 3:today, I am literally just sitting, here it is so true, he just spot checks your work and signs off on everything, sight unseen. But when you said you gave a little glimpse into your work life and he made a face. And he made a face from the perspective of a manager and a DEI professional who was, like you know, he was trying there, emily too. He was trying to coach you up a little bit and was, like you know, he was trying there, emily too. He was trying to coach you up a little bit and be like the note behind the note Right, yeah, what was the note behind the note?
Speaker 2:Coach, maybe you tend to work in a rather siloed way. Yes, I do. We'd like to sort of move away from that.
Speaker 3:Nope, it makes other people feel a little bit uncomfortable in the workplace. We're all team here.
Speaker 4:No, no, no, no no. No, woman is an island. When I started this job, it was specifically because they said you will act as the liaison and not work very closely with other people, and I said, fucking great, I love that. Sign me up for that for the next 10 years.
Speaker 3:So now that they're trying to switch it up on me, no, no, no, no, I I am.
Speaker 2:I am as much of an island as possible.
Speaker 3:I am a peninsula.
Speaker 2:So again, I haven't been.
Speaker 3:I am attached to me, but not by my choice, which is a it's another tnt Another fucking T-shirt.
Speaker 2:You talk about whistling. We are just leaving a mint on the table. Yeah, no, it's true, it's a. T-shirt. I'm a peninsula. That's great. That's a great answer to no person is not correct, but I am a peninsula. I get it. Yeah, I get it. I did feel for your manager in that moment though Coach is correct because I thought oh yeah yeah. They were trying to do a thing, OK, well, yep, that didn't work.
Speaker 3:So OK, so they go back to the management meeting. They go hey, how'd that go with Emily over in accounting? Yeah not so great. Yeah, she said if I tried to make her interact with other humans, she would tase me, I believe, and then quit. So not ideal. We'll keep working on it. I think there's a real. I think there's a good person in there waiting to crawl out.
Speaker 2:I think she's really got a taser. I don't.
Speaker 3:Be careful there, Harvey.
Speaker 2:She got that big taser energy. I can't prove she ain't got a taser Harvey. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4:Hey guys, why not both? Why not a good person with a taser? Or maybe I'm a taser person?
Speaker 3:That's it. You're right, we were thinking in a binary way. This is why we appreciate you. We'veer person, that's it. You're right, we were thinking in a binary way. That's right. This is why we appreciate you. We were being curious. That's right. And thanks for staring us straight. That's good. There's always room for more tasers. Look what you made me do. You made me drop my Pinot Grigio, which is, I think it's a legitimate complaint. Oh yeah, those of us who are going to partake of a little Pinot Grigio, I say us, I don't drink a ton of, do a ton of day drinking, but if I chose to, I wouldn't be appreciative of some haughty 15-year-old with a dog out of the blue. Apparently, this is a big Lebowski moment. Hey man, there's a beverage here.
Speaker 2:It's actually you're right. You're right, actually, that's funny. Actually that might. I'm sorry. That might deserve a little more attention than like. At first I thought, oh, funny reference. But maybe we were getting a little bit of that reference because think about the open and how they shot that the bowling alley like you might not be that far off oh yeah, right, there's a.
Speaker 2:There may be a yeah like they may be having a little fun with the homage, because I mean, this is that was you're right. Like that's spot on. That is very there's a very lebowskiowski. Nobody gives a fuck about your white Russian, bro, but that's hilarious they should.
Speaker 3:Hey man, there's a beverage here a little respect we are not animals, in all fairness. That's my go-to line when I was saying maybe I'll incorporate this Pinot Grigio thing it would replace that one some of the time, just to mix it up, you know, because that's such a good. I mean, yeah, people have to care about beverages. It's just really important stuff, Coach. And so in comes Del. And Coach, what does she do in response to the Pinot Grigio line she takes?
Speaker 2:the bottle with whatever's remaining and just hurls it. And I couldn't help but think the last time somebody threw some alcohol out around here. So she and Wayne, in this moment, are aligned. They're not together, but they are aligned. When did Wayne throw alcohol? Wayne had the beer when he came in. That's why he calls him Bear Boy, because when he came in and he crushed the cans and then he used the remaining cans. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Party's fucking over Chamomile. Yeah, exactly that's when chamomile came out, because he put Bible to sleep.
Speaker 3:And was this a little airplane-sized bottle of? Oh, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:This was grabbed while at Costco. That was. It's like a magnet. Yeah, there was a lot going on there when that got thrown and you would have my full attention.
Speaker 3:There was a lot of left in it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. It was intended to be like oh, you don't have any left in your glass. Well, guess what Party's over?
Speaker 4:This is. She just cracked the bottle. She's super pissed yeah.
Speaker 3:I was looking at this from the perspective of a DP. Right, and you block this out. Director of photography, cinematographer. And you block this out and look at how it plays out. You get an insert of Del grabbing the bottle. Right, she gets it by hand, she chucks it. Now watch, she does a great throw. Except she throws it with her backpack arm, okay, and then where does it land? It lands right where the backpack obscures the shot, so we don't get to see the money splash of the shattered wine, right, and then the only reason that this made it in is because they probably had one, one bottle of the. God damn it. Like you know, when you, when you just don't have enough yeah, I was looking at this.
Speaker 3:If you look at the light going through um uh, you know, typically set uh decorators or set dressers, you've got to be careful. You don't want to put your actors in harm's way. And if you look at the scars on the wine glass that is being held by Maureen, I'm like that's a plastic. Yeah there's no reason to risk that.
Speaker 2:There's no reason to risk that.
Speaker 3:Just a plastic nightmare. So she hucks it. And what does maureen uh say coach? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2:um, I mean, it's just truly, and uh. Then the response is uh, look at the sad drunk. And apparently my memory is better than I thought it was, because Maureen explains Costco isn't open today. You bitch, so there you go. So the Kirkland, the Kirkland, piano Grigio has been hurled. Uh, for those of you unfamiliar with Costco, kirkland is the house brand. Uh, somewhere some middle-aged person in the minivan is losing their shit. I'm sitting here waiting for them to stop laughing like Ted Lasso. And but no, it was. So I want to go back into that, though with the throwing of the bottle and like how big that is of what you described of like they probably had one bottle, because where I thought you were going to go, because you re-showed it is that there was a camera move and they were creating a new.
Speaker 1:All right now we've probably done so far. They crossed the line, but they had to come back to get the bottle, so I'm going to say it like that for those who know what it is.
Speaker 2:So there's a line between characters, an imaginary line, and we, you use that line to help people feel oriented when they're watching a scene. So if I'm facing screen left, you want me to continue facing screen left until we do something physically to help reorient. But you always want us to be consistent in direction, or else it'll look like we're each talking to the side of the frame and not to each other or whatever, right? So here I think you're right about that bottle and like there is no take two, because we crossed the line and you would want to come, you would want to get it from there right now. We have to come back over. Here is the other thing. Yep, so anyway, I thought that was interesting. Um, and I will share that. At one point you say that about having the one bottle.
Speaker 2:We had a broken wine bottle in the movie. We did Dinner for Two and we're rushing to get out of this supermarket. Whatever it's gotta be this bottle of red wine. Great, we get it all set up. This shot's set up. Alright, we're gonna get this shot. Get the fuck out of here. And the bottle drops and the art department. Gave us white wine. Gave us the wrong bottle. Like everybody's just staring at it, like that is absolutely not the right, like white wine makes no sense uh, and so we, you know so immediately I'm like all right, reset.
Speaker 2:And the the woman who did was like assistant in that department. I love, love this. This is one of my favorite moments from the experience. So she looked and I've been there where you're the one who fucked up, and there's just no getting around it, like there's no dressing up. You fucked up. It is clear that it's you and I could just see like all of it on her and I walked up next to her as we were walking. We got the shot. You know. She hurried up and I was like don't just go. She was apologizing, like just go. And as we're walking, I walked next to her and I said, um, I've already forgotten about that bottle, so I need you to forget it too, because we got a whole day to shoot and you've been doing a great job.
Speaker 4:You told him to be a goldfish.
Speaker 2:Be a goldfish. You're right. Actually, I didn't even think of the goldfish, but that's exactly what I did. You're right, that's exactly what I did. That was exactly. My instinct was like be a goldfish and and I be a goldfish, and and I and I'm I. I am still convinced there were several other times in the shoot where they, that department, went above and beyond, and I am convinced I mean I never discussed it with them, but I am convinced that she went back and said something because it just was like the vibe from then on was like what do you need, orlando?
Speaker 3:of course. Of course she said something and they don't know for sure until their ass is on the fucking grill, right, right and and, and they don't know how you're going to react, because there's a plenty of, there are plenty of directors that come in and they're your buddy, until the shit hits the fan and then their total demeanor changes. Yeah, and then it's all about shame and blame. Um, it's, it's a whole. Um, oh, by the way's my. If you look at the shot, there's the forklift. You can see it in that shot. That's so funny. Why is there a forklift? I know the stack. I know what a stack of a forklift looks like in silhouette. Jesus, what else do you need to know about my?
Speaker 2:You've lived a long life, brother, me and you both it's funny about.
Speaker 3:First of all, coach, I love that you did that. That is Ted Lasso, that is Ted, that's that's, and that's like walking. Uh, walking the talk, that is practice what you preach. Be that type of leader. Um, I will say that, uh, it was fun, it was funny to me. I talk, we talk a lot about children and how interesting it is when you see sort of your children grow and burgeon and become something that maybe you know you couldn't have planned for, you didn't expect or whatever in certain ways.
Speaker 3:So my daughter, a 10 year old daughter, is in a, is in a sort of a musical production and we go to pick her up. If they had a, it was their tech rehearsal, but they also wanted them dressed. So they're dressed in there and all in black because it's a you know, sort of a you know kids theater. They don't have a ton of stuff. They say everybody wear black, black shoes, black pants, black shirt, and so my daughter was there and my other daughter, 18 year old, is home from college. So she goes with me into the theater and we're just sitting there at the end of the performance just to do the pickup. There's 30, 40 other parents there.
Speaker 3:It's a big production and the woman in charge, the two women in charge mother-daughter team and the mother, who is like a little bit of a different generation, a little bit of a boomer, I think, is her generation she was born into. She is less hands-on, the daughter is a little more gentle with whatever, with how she presents herself, and the mother is just sort of very brass tacks. So she says listen, I need everybody. The mother says I need everybody to make sure, when you come back for the official dress rehearsal, it's only black that you wear everybody. The mother says I need everybody to make sure when you come back for the official dress rehearsal, you know you don't have, it's only black that you wear. And she said one of you, I saw pink socks and and so the kids are looking around and and the woman, the woman says yeah, you. And she points to my daughter.
Speaker 3:And my daughter does not like being called out like that and she's like you never. And she's also like a rule follower, to the point where she would like you know, we get in the car later and she's like you know they never said socks, they said whatever. She's like look at the paper. Here's the paper it says shirt, whatever, and this is so. Boss is nodding because she appreciates systems. If the system was correct, my daughter wouldn't have been in that human situation.
Speaker 3:But what was fascinating to me was my older daughter like almost got out of her seat, not because she's a truck, but she's like I and she's like, and I'm like what she's like? She whispers to me, she's like I don't like when people call other people out in public like that, and I was like whoa, like what? And she was like it's happened in one of my college classes and I was like why would you choose that? Like, what good did you do by you know having this moment? And so, coach, when you say you know what you did on set with that one beat, I just just think you know. First of all, it's just great leadership and great coaching, um, but also it's it's, you know, if we dip into, you know the practicality of a production, it just it is more efficient and it does. It is better to get the long term, to get the, the job done. And we all make mistakes, but if you dwell on it, what, what good does it do? To sort of you know.
Speaker 2:Also, I think there are different kinds of mistakes and I talked to kids, I coached, and I've talked when I've coached, on the higher levels too. My big thing is, if you were trying to make a play, you're never in trouble with me. I may correct what you did, I may tell you why that wasn't the time to take that particular risk, but you'll never be in trouble with me because you were trying to make a play. Now, if your attitude sucks or your effort sucks and so to me she was trying to make a play, like she was trying to hurry up, and she gets, you know, and she's not thinking about the script, she's thinking, you know, I'm art department, they want the wine bottle, you know. So if you're trying to make a play, my reaction is all right, well, we'll fix it from here, like you weren't. It's like when people, you know, even in sports, it's somebody you know you've had some of football, soccer player who got shot like a goalie or something like that.
Speaker 3:I feel like there was something like that.
Speaker 2:And I just remember thinking like obviously that's Venezuela, yeah. And I remember thinking, of course it's insane anyway, but I remember thinking like the guy was playing hard and made a mistake, like I don't even know why you're mad at him, never mind why the person is now fucking dead. Like to me that's just wild. It's just a wild way to behave.
Speaker 3:Okay, this is like the perfect conversation for us. I bark at you guys for derailing us, but you made me think of this, this thing. When you say, okay, why does a human react in a way like bring violence onto another person? And I had this, I had the the the sort of different reaction. The other day I was watching the French open.
Speaker 3:I haven't watched a lot of French. Out of all the tournaments there's, there's four big tennis tournaments In the world there's Wimbledon, there's the US Open, there's the Australian Open and then there's the French Open, and Of all of them, I've probably spent the least time Watching the French. It's a clay court and it's something that it feels like Around this time. I never have time to watch. I think it's playoff hockey usually, which eats up a lot of my time, and now the Celtics are in the NBA playoffs, so there's a lot of typically around this time. I'm not watching the French Open, but I caught it. And there's a tennis player have you guys heard of? I think you have, but I'm going to say it in case you're not tennis savvy there's a player named Rafael Nadal. Have you ever heard that name? Okay, one of the best players of all time.
Speaker 4:And Rafa is. I was really hoping that you were going to say Serena Williams.
Speaker 3:Have you heard of Serena Williams? Have you heard of this player? I'm not sure.
Speaker 4:Listen, there's this pretty obscure. Not sure if you know her.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know if his name Michael Jordan, no, jordan, michael Jordan, I believe that's how it's pronounced.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:So it's actually a.
Speaker 3:Jordan. So so Rafael Nadal is a player who is a consummate professional. He is one of the best of all time he has been fighting injuries, 38 years old, or 37, 37, but his birthday is in June 3rd, so he's nearly 38. And he went in and played this guy, sasha Zverev, who is fourth in the world, six, the German cannon, uh, you know, live, uh, you know, downright predatory.
Speaker 3:And and the thing about the um, about the, the clay game is, it's a skill game, it's a, it's a touch game because you can't overpower people typically with your serve, which is why the Pete Sampras is of the uh, you know, and the Federer's, you know, federer is actually not qualified for that, but when Federer would meet up with Nadal at the French Open, nadal would often overcome because he had such talent and touch and skill. It's just a little bit of a different game, enough to sort of devalue the big serve. And so this is a guy who's been injured for a couple of years trying to get back, finally gets back to the French Open unseated and loses in straight sets 6-3, 7-6, tiebreaker and then 6-3, and is ousted in the first round. And so there's this beat where Zverev who I don't know very well, but he took the microphone because he was the winner and he said I don't want to say anything because it's just an honor to be on the same court as Rafael Nadal and my entire life I've worshipped this guy and it's just an honor to to be here and I can't say anymore and I don't want to say.
Speaker 3:It was like literally took 20 seconds and I was like, oh man, that was fantastic. I loved his, what he said, right, and so I looked him up and I was like, oh, it seems like a. You know, maybe I have hope for the next round of uh, whatever, and he's got two pending domestic violence um charges and I was like God, fucking damn it. But anyway, that's not the point of the story. The point of the story is then Nadal gets up and he does this little talk and people are losing their minds because they love him so much. He is an institution in the tennis world.
Speaker 3:He is one of the greatest of all time. And I was like, why am I getting emotional at saying goodbye to a tennis player? Why does this matter to me? Why what it's saying goodbye to a tennis player? Why does this matter to me? Why, what? What is that?
Speaker 3:And so I started thinking about how you know, for I don't know if it's typically male versus female, I don't know if it's gendered, but I know like when you see somebody of this, it's like it's sort of demark it puts like a demarcation line of your life. You can say like I remember when I first saw him and I remember when I saw him in this championship, and I now he's an old man. In terms of the sport, I mean, he's only 37, right, but in the sport he's ancient. Everybody that was his contemporary is gone. Now they're all out of the, they don't play tennis anymore, they're all retired, and so it sort of has an effect on you and you look back and you say and then it becomes entwined with your identity in some interesting way.
Speaker 3:It's why people say you know, oh, this is eyewear Adidas. You know, this is whatever eyewear. They say, why would you tie a brand to your personality? But we naturally sort of accumulate these elements, and some of them are sports legends, legends. It's a parasocial relationship where you feel a connection to him. He doesn't know you exist, but you feel a connection to him because of what he has meant to you and what he exemplifies. So it's like if I say, um, I love my favorite player is um bill lambert, um, a basketball player for the pistons who was a troublemaker, you go okay. That tells me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it tells me a bit right tells me a bit about you.
Speaker 3:But you say, oh, rafael nadal is one of my favorites. You say, okay, I get, I right, you know, fetter is one of you with their class act. Then it has this sort of it adds an essence or adds some, some additional information to your life. And so when you bring up again, it doesn't add it for universally, but it adds it to you in your mind. So when you bring up, what would make somebody shoot somebody else? It's like this is like their right has been, has been impugned right by the, by the, whatever the goal that he didn't save, or something like that, that they, uh, wrongly, um, take matters into their own hands. But but it's. It does fascinate me to think about. You know, boss, sometimes like why the hell do people love sports as much? You know, it's so crazy. Uh, in the same, you know, boss, you're making a face, but I know it's not something you've. You've commented like, wow, people do really get worked up about you know, sports and it's, it is just sports, that kind of thing, right? Am I misquoting?
Speaker 4:you well, I I think what I have said before is that people, I completely understand people's connections to sports. It's just I wish that they understood that connection is to a game that is being played, like the, the. What you're talking about, with the memories and everything else. That is the important part the fact that the bears will not win a super bowl in my lifetime, even if that might upset me. But actually that's not true, sorry, actually I was alive. I was alive for the first, first one, but they're not going to do it again. That isn't something that doesn't translate into me needing to take a lot of action for the team. It can be a game. You can care a shit ton about something. That isn't that serious, but it isn't that serious.
Speaker 2:Okay, nevertheless, you do attach something to it, right, yeah, yeah, for sure, good coach. No, no, I was gonna say, but I like, yeah, yes to both of you. Yes, I know exactly what you mean, coach. And there are players who, if you mention them, like, I immediately am like, oh my god, you know. And it's not always the biggest names, right, like recently it was michael cooper, who was on the Los Angeles Lakers in the eighties, got named to the hall of fame. And of course, kareem Abdul-Jabbar, who, like, is Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and Magic Johnson, who is Magic Johnson. I mean, like, come on, but my favorite player on that team was Michael Cooper. I used to pull my when I played basketball in high school. I used to pull my socks high because nobody was doing it. I pulled my socks high because I was like that's how Michael Cooper did it, and stuff like that. So it is, yes, it is real. I think, like most things, just because something is good doesn't mean more is better. So that I think there are, there is some healthy, there are some healthy things that can come out of that kind of association.
Speaker 2:But then you get, you know, I think I've told you the story of being at a Dodgers game. I'm not a Dodgers fan. I grew up in New York. It's the Los Angeles Dodgers. I grew up in New York.
Speaker 2:I'm a New York Yankees fan, so I was very neutral. I'm just enjoying a ballgame. But the Dodgers rival for those who are unfamiliar the San Francisco Giants. So everybody's in California. Big rivalry and like spontaneous combustion like that's as close as I can come to it, because I did not see any buildup, no-transcript, like they were fighting for the last crust of bread on planet earth. Like I was like, like this isn't like push, take, shove and screw you. Like I'm like some, if one of these punches lands clean, like somebody's gonna have a short night, oh my god. And you just realize like we can take it there. Like like you know what I mean, like some is good and healthy and gets all that stuff out, and then it just kind of keeps going to where we're like, yeah, no, it's toxic, but it's not toxic in itself, it's the extreme expressions of it.
Speaker 3:No question, but it is a parasocial relationship and yet, even as I say it, even as I'm aware of it, um, I take a bizarre pride in it. So, uh, I, I can't speak for uh, the women listening. Um, I, I, I'm, I don't think it's gendered, but like, for example, uh, I remember someone saying hey, who's your, uh, who's your favorite football player? Non-skskill football player. And when I said it there was like a reaction in the room and then everybody nodded like appreciative. They're like damn, okay, fuck, that's a good answer. I like that and I was proud of it because I'm like, yes, because I didn't know this guy wouldn't know me, you know what I mean, like in a million years.
Speaker 3:But I bet you, at least the men who listen to this podcast, who love Ted Lasso and are appreciative of this. I'm dying to hear who everybody's guy is. Who's your favorite? This who's your favorite? That Michael Cooper. I love hearing Michael Cooper Because that was atypical and that means even back then you were looking for something that wasn't front and center in the sports zeitgeist of what is to be emulated right, he was the best defensive player, which is a huge part of it, and that's as you know, me that's like everything, of course that's your, that's correct.
Speaker 3:Again, boss will say sometimes it's funny when we, when we do these, uh, these conversations, boss will sometimes just check out and go like check her email and whatever she's looking, no, she's saying I'm not like checking me. But like boss told me recently.
Speaker 3:She said hey, listen, I'm going to New York and I think it was Swan Lake that they're playing in New York. And she's like was it the New York? The American Ballet Company, american Ballet Company? And she's like so, yes, obviously I'm going to do that and so that's it. And I was like that is this. That is what this is Like. I need to see this sport, and I because I. It does something for me.
Speaker 3:When I saw Rafa Nadal, who I saw when he was a springy listen, he's still fucking amazing. He barely lost that match at 37 right and then and then he had a hard time saying like he didn't say for he's like, maybe I'll be back, maybe I won't, I'll try. I don't know if I'll be back, and I was like why is he not able to whatever? And say like, yeah, this is it like I'm? Clearly because I was like well, he, actually, he's still fucking really good. So I didn't fault him that. But I'm like when, boss, when you say, oh, I gotta go to swan lake, it's like yeah, this is it's a, it's a, it's a because I am a person who goes to Swan Lake to see American Ballet Company and right, there's something about finding your tribe.
Speaker 2:There's something about identifying your tribe, finding your tribe, I think it's, you know, in no small way right, the Buttercups, it's. It's. All of us talking about Ted Lasso, like, oh, you love Ted Lasso, I love Ted lasso, I love ted lasso. Let that we are. Now a thing. There was a, a meme somebody shared where he was walking down the street with, you know, a jersey on whatever it was, an afc richmond, you know, and, um, a bunch of college guys like stopped and started singing the jamie tart song but it wasn't like, wasn't he black and they were white college guys.
Speaker 2:It might have been. It might. That might be right. Yeah, I think you're a black.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think you're right. Actually A black guy with an AFC Richmond jersey on right, yeah, and he got real attention right away from like four drunk white people yeah, they were drunk.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we were talking about the same story, because I remember thinking like, yeah, that sounds about right.
Speaker 3:But I mean that's so funny to me that who knows how what's happening. And then they all started singing Jamie Tart and they all high five and then walked away and I was like that's wild right.
Speaker 2:I get chills that makes me so happy I want everything to be that.
Speaker 2:But see, I think not, but yes and it could, we could make room for it, like I think I'm with you. I love that. I love that feeling. I love finding those points of connection with people. Actually, to be honest with you, sometimes I'm happy to hear about your tribe. I've checked out, I've been given some stuff to check out about the National. I've played a couple things because they've been sent my way. I don't know that I'm ever going to be able to do an episode on the National like I went off about Kendrick and Drake, but I really enjoy checking that out and going okay, I got you. Now I get what you're into. It's not that I'm now into it, but I get it. That's cool. I could do that. I like hearing how are you going to do that hockey, yeah, how you gonna do that hockey Exactly.
Speaker 1:For those of you unfamiliar, all right, I am gonna pause this and then we can get back to work.
Speaker 2:There is one of the single funniest sketches I have personally ever watched. It's Chance the Rapper on Saturday Night Live and the premise of the sketch is he's usually the basketball reporter, but he gets assigned to do the hockey report. And I don't even want to spoil the jokes. Go to YouTube, check it out. It is so funny around cultural disconnects. It is so smart, oh my.
Speaker 3:God, it's so good and it's racial without being racist. Yeah, there's no part of it that's attacking it.
Speaker 2:It's cold. I don't want to be cold. It's not because you're white, enjoy.
Speaker 3:No, they ask him to break. They can't even say the names on the jersey, he said that's a no.
Speaker 4:They're all weird Canadian ones.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm like, I'm here with my man and the guy turns around. He's like and then they put them on the teleprompter and he's like. The thing I'm really trying to figure out here is like can we, can we zoom into the stands here? And it's a picture of Keenan in the stands with no jacket on it. He's like there's a black man in the stands and it is cold and he has no jacket. So I'm going to find out what's going on at the bottom of that.
Speaker 2:It's just brilliant, but yeah, but to me that stuff is fascinating, like to really get a peek into, like oh, that's how that tribe works, that's what matters. And I'm using tribe in a socially neutral way. I don't mean, obviously, like, oh, this tribe of this nation, but I mean like groups of people who like a thing or or center around a thing.
Speaker 3:Um, yeah, anyway, speaking, of speaking of tribes, uh, that we love.
Speaker 4:Once dell hucks the wine bottle, oh wait, before we move on, oh shit no, no, no, no, the only thing, because you you thought I was checked out. Number one I was looking up all the people that you were mentioning and trying to figure out that stuff. Number two um a part of the connection that you were talking about, eddie vetter, lead singer of pearl jam, born in evanston, illinois, which is a suburb just north of chicago oh, I didn't know. Huge, huge chicago sports fan. He wrote this bullshit song about the cubs winning the world series a bunch of years ago and I have not forgiven him for the sanctimonious fucking bullshit that that song was. But other than that, me and eddie better are fine, especially because last night at the pearl jam show he wore um walter payton's jersey, which is phenomenal.
Speaker 2:Number 34 yes, yes. In reference to the 34 convictions that trump just suffered. So that's yeah, that's pretty awesome jersey in chicago on that occasion is about as perfect as it gets.
Speaker 4:That's, that's pretty, pretty fucking good, pretty good, so that, like that is how that connection works in all these other ways. Uh, number three anyway.
Speaker 3:Wait, eddie vetter also just tweet. He was in the news because he tweeted at somebody I don't even remember who it was was but he called out somebody very publicly and he was like hey, fuck you, buddy. And I was like oh Jesus, like I was like I haven't thought about Eddie Vedder in a while. And and then he I don't know if he called out Trump or Elon or somebody he was like somebody's an asshole Very vocal and that makes a lot of sense to me. Yeah, I like that, that was cool.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's I, I've, I've, I've. Eddie Vedder has always felt like I seems pretty decent. He's not fucking Billy Corgan. If I run into Billy Corgan and it's not at the symphony again, I will pull up on that dude. He fucking sucks. Uh, my guy's AJ Pruszynski. Oh okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 4:Good.
Speaker 3:Because he's an asshole. I get it though.
Speaker 2:But, he's really smart. I get it though, like he's yeah, he is formidable. Like I feel like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:I get it.
Speaker 3:And he. But isn't he only an asshole? Isn't he one of those guys that's like you hate? You wish he was on your team. Or is he just a mess? I don't know.
Speaker 4:I don't know, this story might be apocryphal. I hope not. I might have even mentioned it on the show before. But when he was like just you know, warming up with a pitcher on the Minnesota Twins when he was the catcher for them, the ball got loose and bounced up and hit him in his balls and so of course he's like bent over, he's not feeling so great, and somebody comes over and they ask the stupidest fucking question and that is oh no, how's it feel? He's like how's it feel. And then he kicks the guy in his nuts and he's like that's how it feels. What do you mean? How does it feel? I got hit in my balls, you cannot kick another man in the nuts.
Speaker 4:You cannot, I mean if he walks over all fucking stupid and he's like how does that feel? I think you've never allowed to do that.
Speaker 3:Wow, wow, okay, well, yeah, that's it. So there's your parasocial cancer.
Speaker 4:He had a reputation as clubhouse cancer for a bit, and then he came to the Sox and we fucking loved it. We were like that guy, that motherfucker. He is ours. He is going to punch what's his name, barrett. He is going to hit Barrett in Barrett's fist with his chin and he's somehow going to come off being the cool guy.
Speaker 2:Fucking love AJ Persons. You know, even that piece is, and, of course, again, take it to the extreme, can be horrible. But that thing of like, yeah, so-and-so's an asshole, but he's our asshole, that's a real, that's a real thing. And I've talked to dafty specifically because she didn't do like team sports and stuff. So some of this is, you know, she's actually sort of like so how does this work? And and I was like, yeah, it's hard to explain, but a lot of times, certainly on a team, but even sometimes in groups of guys, there's one guy in the group who's kind of consensus and asshole, like he knows it, the group knows it, like it's not like you're talking bad about the person, you're just acknowledging their role, and sometimes that's how it plays out. It's like, yeah, he's an asshole, but he's our asshole and that's that. So yeah, anyway, brzezinski always struck me as that.
Speaker 1:But I didn't know he was known as a cancer before he got to White Sox.
Speaker 4:That was Listen. I know way too much about the 2005 White Sox. Everybody was like this is going to be fucking garbage. Ozzy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. He's getting all these asshole players who can't get along with anybody else. What the fuck is he doing? And then they were so fucking good, so goddamn phenomenal. It was magic.
Speaker 3:Super magic Okay.
Speaker 2:So can I go?
Speaker 3:back to uh, uh, wayne, uh, oh, right, right, right, right, right. I wonder who, uh, who got us off track?
Speaker 3:I don't remember, but some asshole yeah, um, okay, so, um, so, anyway. Uh, when dell uh hucks the wine, she goes oh, look at the sad drunk. And I like this shot because when she hucks it she's alone in frame and she comes back and all of a sudden she's flanked by her lieutenants Orlando and butthole Tommy Cole. I just love the framing here. I love the blocking. I just love the framing here. I love the blocking.
Speaker 3:It was the night before Christmas and all through the house Not a creature was stirring, except for the Four assholes coming in the back In two by two cover formation. That's what it feels like to me. They are in this sort of, you know, shoulder length, perfectly flanking Her position. She goes all looking sad drunk. I love this. I love lines where it's just a line, but also it tells you about a character, it explains something, it gives you an insight into the character. She says Costco isn't open today you bitch Because she planned. She is so dependent on that. What she's going to get from that bottle and now her day is is fucked like. Yeah, she'll have to adjust. She'll have to, like, get another way to drown her whatever to get her out of her mind.
Speaker 3:You know it's like going to be a, a whole thing, um, but it's, it's illustrative, it it explains something about character um, and uh, dell says what here, coach?
Speaker 2:Where the fuck is he? You know the son you abandoned. You fucking remember him. And I want to point out the way it's delivered. She's leaning in, she's got the neck going like she has. She doesn't give a fuck about your Prino Grigio. Not only doesn't she give a fuck about it, she wants to make it clear to you that she doesn't give a fuck about it. She's almost daring you to say another thing about that wine it's almost like I dare you to ignore my question again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, her body language is full aggression. Yeah, like we could fight now. If that's what you want to do, is what? I got from it yeah.
Speaker 4:I've said before on other TV shows that the only thing I want to watch in life are large men backing up tiny, unhinged women as they wreak havoc, and that was like a Logan Eccles and Veronica Mars and a mad Sweeney and a Laura moon on American gods and Luke in June on handmaid's tale. Like I just it's. I just want to see them destroy the entire world with the backing of a man who's about to rip out of whatever jacket he's wearing. Uh, but whole tommy cole doesn't have exactly the intimidating physique that a pablo schreiber might, but I do still enjoy this very much. Della is seconds away from just scraping Maureen's face off of her and Tommy Cole is like, yeah, we're here for this.
Speaker 3:Did I ever mention how nice Pablo Schreiber smells? You did.
Speaker 4:Yeah, sandalwood, and that he's got a great smile like real close good mouth. Oh God, of course, yeah.
Speaker 3:Hands that just feel like mitts, and they envelop you and make you feel safe and warm.
Speaker 4:I don't like tall men, but he breaks so many rules.
Speaker 3:So Del says you know the one you abandoned. And what does Maureen say in response to that boss? You're muted. Boss, God damn it. Yeah, I know it happens, happens to the best of us. I won't point it out. I've already forgotten it and I hope you will too.
Speaker 4:Forgotten what. You just abandoned him and you're giving me shit. And this is such a great example of how easily parentification can happen to other people. Also, maureen is saying you should have the same position as me in Wayne's life in terms of what you owe to him, even though Maureen doesn't do shit. Maureen is saying that she and Dell are on the same level.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a pretty. I have a thing. Coach knows, we've had discussions around you know, oh, some team cheated or didn't cheat, or this or that. And my big thing is like and it's my own upbringing because my mother had zero tolerance for everybody was doing it was doing it.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. If you got in trouble in school and you said, oh well, the whole like you. Just, actually you were in trouble for one thing. Now you're in trouble for two things. So to me, yes, I reacted to wait a goddamn minute. We're not going to compare the teenage girlfriend to mom who left when the child was five and just told him to kick rocks because you know she's not going to fuck up her situation like, yes, in a binary way, in the way that a cup of water and the ocean are both water, those are the same. But no, so yeah, I definitely reacted to that line.
Speaker 3:I want to point out how amazing Michaela Watkins is, who plays Maureen McNulty, but also the whole time that Del has been aggressive to her. Del has broken her stuff. Del has been picking the fight since she met her. Now she's much more aggressive, but this is the first time Maureen doesn't deflect. Usually Maureen goes like oh, you're a little mad, aren't you? Or whatever, you know whatever, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah. Now she goes. Oh, you just abandoned him and you're telling me Go fuck yourself. So she's going to go fuck herself.
Speaker 2:I was like wow, that is yeah, no, we're doing it yeah. So, coach, what happens here once she says that? So we get an insert shot. Dell is reaching for a cell phone and the case I think this is significant the the case that's holding the phone is like, it looks pretty cheap and has these like flowers on the back, which just struck me as like one more pretty it up thing, right. And so she says don don't you dare, because we know that there's a wine bucket there uh, what do you call it?
Speaker 2:it's the kiddie pool actually oh, it's a kiddie pool he's holding on for the kiddie pool so she's holding the phone over the kiddie it's out of frame.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's out of frame. So we don't see it, but we know it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're right, the kiddie pool's right there. So she she threatening to drop it in the water and Maureen says don't you dare. There's a picture of me and John Stamos on there that I have not backed up yet. Okay, so let's talk about the levels of fucking hilarity. First of all, we've just watched this woman as much as it may have bothered her, we have watched her tell her son, with whom she has been reunited after the first abandonment, kick rocks. So maybe not the most like sensitive right person, but who she is attached to, and what she is attached to is John Stamos.
Speaker 3:It's just like there's also a picture of Wayne on there. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm saying which isn't backed up yet, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but she's like the thing she knows she can never replace and that is precious to her. That is the reason that phone can't be dropped is that there's a picture of John Stamos, and I will add that she is looking at the phone. She's not even looking at Del. If Del drops that, there's a non-zero chance that Maria is going to dive and land between that phone and that water to make sure she does not lose that picture of John Stamos. And again, and such a specific name to choose too, because as much as he's a, he remains a good looking man. I would think that when women in 2024 are discussing such things, they would be a lot more likely to mention Pablo Schreiber. But the fact that you mentioned John Stamos, it's a little bit like me, you know, like me being like I need to find me a Cicely Tyson Like what you do, this as a writer, and you go especially in the writer's room.
Speaker 3:You put in six different names, whatever, Like, oh, it's not right. It's not right. Like who would be? She's a Gen.
Speaker 2:Xer, yeah, and you think it too. Who is she? Yeah, who was on her bedroom wall when she was 17?
Speaker 3:or whatever. Also, as a son of Greece my mother is from Greece and I don't. I don't appreciate that you did not mention that John Stamos is is devastatingly handsome. Yeah. He's not just good Orlando. I love where you do that. I love where you do that.
Speaker 4:He is very he's got a great head of hair. I need to plug here my Full House knowledge. I don't care for the show, but the people closest to me for some reason love it. That's funny. It's fine. Megan Morine, the girl is great. First season his character's name was Jesse Cochran and when it got picked up he was like no, no, no, fuck, that we need to make me Greek. So then they changed it second season to Jesse Katopoulos. So he was like listen, bitches.
Speaker 4:If I don't represent Greece, I'm going to have a lot of women I need to explain myself to he's our one guy.
Speaker 3:We have one guy.
Speaker 4:What about? Who's the director that did the Lobster?
Speaker 3:Oh no, Yorgos Lanthimos no.
Speaker 4:Of course that's the director. Sure, there we go.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, there's a lot of hidden Greeks, you know, tom.
Speaker 4:Hanks' wife Rita Wilson. Is this how David Rakoff knows everybody who's Canadian? Well, not anymore. Yes, you have to. You know every single one.
Speaker 3:Well, you go to Greek Orthodox Church when you're a child. Then they make you memorize a list of all the famous Greek celebrities. All the famous ones In case Orlando ever impugns their looks and that's it. No, I mean listen, if you don't have that many, you cherish them. And I also have never. I remember watching Full House like for eight seconds before I was like click, like nope, like this is not for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was my reaction to it. I was like I'm happy for all of you, but it was, yeah, that didn't. What is this? I just didn't care.
Speaker 3:It's like when Ricky Gervais on Ext extras has the character that has like the, are you having a laugh? Is he having a laugh? You know that guy where he's like the, the catchphrase british comedy that's sort of designed for a certain. You know, whatever I can rail against network tv all day. Um, uh, there's a picture of me and john stamos on there. They have not backed up yet. Is just chef's kiss, just kiss your fingers. It's so good. And then what happens here, coach?
Speaker 2:So where is he? We get another. So finally it's like, look, I am done playing with you. Where is he?
Speaker 3:John Stamos is going bye-bye.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she holds the phone with two fingers.
Speaker 3:She loosens her grip.
Speaker 2:Let me help you understand the choice you're making right now.
Speaker 2:The seriousness of this. So she's got a hostage and she's not afraid to off the hostage and so where is he? And then we've got waiting. Oh, I don't want to say it, oh, he got arrested. He's at the police station. Tommy asks what did he do? And if he's there, what the fuck are you doing here? Del asked delicately you assholes coming down here and messing with me? I got Calvin in jail again. Thank you very fucking much. You know what Fuck this? Give me your goddamn keys, del says. And then Del says I mean, maureen answers that she's not going to give her the keys to the house, no. And she says to the car you fucking stole you dunce, which I'm just like this, is really off and running and we get. The police took it when they took Wayne.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she doesn't have the keys either to the car. The car's gone. The car's gone.
Speaker 2:So we get a lot and, by the way, as we're talking about the power of this writing, we get a lot of exposition out here and, as a writer, I will tell you it is tough, like one of the toughest things to do. When I say exposition, like, is this information that needs to be communicated from one character to another? We need to see it. But there is nothing more painful than a poorly written scene that's there for transferring information. It is excruciating, no, it's brutal. And so this is a great piece of writing. All sorts of character, all sorts of conflict, but ultimately, how the fuck is Del going to figure out where to go find Wayne? Okay, she's got to go find who would know. Maureen would know. So how do we do that scene? So I thought this was really well done.
Speaker 3:When she says he's at the police station Del. I'm going to see if there's a sound cue here.
Speaker 2:Did she drop it? She dropped, oh shit, you know what? I didn't process that, you're right. And then her head is free, oh my. So her reaction to you have him at a police station while you're sitting here with your fucking cooling rag, your peanut grease. Okay, bye-bye, john Stamos. I killed the hostage, fuck you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, wow, look, I didn't ask him to come here, I don't, you know?
Speaker 2:I mean what a fucked up thing to say, by the way. Maureen love, love actress. But Jesus, that's horrible from that character. And then Calvin in jail again. I love that.
Speaker 4:Sorry, go ahead no, no, no, just that's why you dropped the phone yeah.
Speaker 2:No, it's awful. No, it's pretty awful. The police took it when they took Wayne. By the way, I would point out here again, and I correct me if I'm wrong, boss, but I have a feeling it's part of what drives you crazy about maureen, or, if not crazy part, what you don't like. She really is the woman with the popcorn like, even if she doesn't give a fuck about wayne calvin's in, she's sitting there drinking Pinot Grigio with her cooler.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. Like where the fuck is Reggie? Like she really is like, oh well, chaos all around me, you know. So that meme of the dog with the place burning, this is fine. That is like her worldview. It's like her essential character is like yep, mm-, yep, so you. You crashed all my candles. All I can say is I got nothing to say about that. Like she doesn't even come back later to be like let me clean this up or figure out what it's just, you know, yep, chaos all around me next.
Speaker 3:I just I desperately want to. I was going to make a fake argument and be like well, whoever showed her like how to oh god, I was going to do it just to see if I could make boss's head Trickle of blood.
Speaker 4:No, I would just leave, I would just be done.
Speaker 3:I'm just not talking about it. Goodbye, she goes. Now why don't you guys get the fuck out of here before I call the cops because you trespassed? And Del says what here, coach?
Speaker 2:You know what Fuck this? I'm going to go get it myself, you know? No, yeah, go ahead. No, I was just going to say Del what I and there's more stuff later in this but there's toughness, like toughness is a thing. You can be violent, you can be this, you can be that, you can be tough. I know people who are tough, who I can't even picture throwing a punch. They just have a toughness about them. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2:But when Del says I'll fucking get it myself and marches off, my reaction to that is I would not want to be standing between Del and that car. Like if I could choose where I'm going to be standing in this world, I don't want it to be between Del and that car, and it makes all the sense in the world that that's who she is. So if you want to come out from behind your little ticket counter and let's do it, then you know. If Maureen I want to know where he is, I will drop your fucking phone in this pool so fast. You know what I mean. Like she has that about her Now sometimes it goes in a way we don't love as much.
Speaker 3:And you know, poor security guard has to, has to, you know, destroy the good pair of chinos, um, but she is tough. Like she is tough. Humans are amazing and and it is, it is true. We just look in this podcast. You know I've my, my, my acting philosophy, my, my thesis of coach is that he was the sweetest little boy that ever walked the planet and growing up in Flatbush in that time, with all of the various things about him and his life, hardened him in a way that has formed, you know, really really important parts of his character, has formed really really important parts of his character.
Speaker 3:Boss grew up in a world where it was commonplace for her stepdad to abscond with her musical instruments, to pawn them for heroin, and that has given her a worldview and a toughness and an ability to be aware of danger or appropriately boundary. I grew up with physical punishment and a lot of it and it gave me a certain resiliency, and not that I'm advocating that. It's clear that it's possible. But Andel has a absolute fucking toughness in being Bobby Luchetti's daughter. And you would think, is there any benefit to being Bobby Luchetti's daughter? But there's an absorbed fucking, like she's a boss, like Bobby Luchetti's a moron, but but virtually fearless. He should have more fear, he's so stupid he has to get tased at a police event, but it's.
Speaker 3:But the fear there is not that he doesn't have that own and dell has absorbed a better version of it where she can transfer it into her own agency uh, meaningful ways. And so you know, I don't advocate for hardship or whatever, but when we have these scars as people, oftentimes we can derive better things from them than you know than only being injured and then hurting.
Speaker 2:So I really like that you highlight that, because I think we see a fair amount of it in this show. Right Like we can have a laugh about Tommy Cole in the middle of the road, but he's just like. I just feel like if I could just keep a dog, a man's best friend, alive, like I just feel like that'd be like the building block upon which my hope would be restored. And so there's a ton of it in this show. But what I'd like to highlight about it, as you say, in each of our lives and I can think of so many friends is that it's a choice, and I think sometimes people and I get what they mean but, being inexact in their language, it can come across very like oh well, then so-and-so, got cancer, which was actually the best thing that ever happened to them, and it's like no, no, what happened was they got the cancer diagnosis and they made the worst thing that was horrible.
Speaker 2:And then what they did was decided from here who am I going to be and what am I going to do? And I don't think that's like a semantic thing. I think it's important for us to remember that it's a choice we then make with it.
Speaker 3:Every time I've had that highlighted. For me it is a choice.
Speaker 2:I mean Ted. You know, ted could have been a son of a bitch of a father, like horrible. He could have been right, but he took things in the direction he took them. And everybody, coach, and I have one of our he could have been right, but he took things in the direction he took them.
Speaker 3:Coach and I have one of our closest friends. About 18 months ago he was playing hoops. Just playing basketball Comes down hard and is paralyzed from the waist down.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, yeah, no bullshit, like paralyzed.
Speaker 3:Just regular pickup game, whatever. He didn't even know it. First he's a 48-year-old man Fucking nuts and then in the last year he has retaught himself to walk and he's able to jump a few inches off the ground. He can walk back to whatever and he is a marvel. We would never say, oh, the best thing that ever happened to you, right, whatever. But we would say, look at what this fucking guy did, like, look at how he refused to be beaten and and and. One of the things that I was happy about Wayne and bringing Wayne to bosses um, the auspices of the uh, of the terrifying um Emily chambers was I knew that they don't make the position that Ted Lasso makes that. That irritated her many times where it was like yeah, like uh, specifically I would call out James Tartt, senior. Like not every storyline has a happy ending, like in this show. Guess what?
Speaker 3:Marine is a shit is a shit is a shit, and and and one of my favorite things is when people say one thing and then say never the twain shall meet, so never the twain shall meet. Um, uh, there are no twain in this one, but maureen is a. Uh, I just love it, I always love it. Coach is laughing. You guys can't hear it, but he's on mute.
Speaker 2:Um, but um, sorry, yeah, I'm just laughing because that's like the kind of thing that once it annoys you, will kill you for the rest of I love, I love it.
Speaker 3:It's like one of those. There's a I'm a buddy, a screenwriter, who always puts in um, like the stupidest possible thing into a screenplay because he knows it's my, my thing. Like I remember it was like um, a guy in a cowboy outfit with some like shiny spurs, and then somebody's like, hey, what's your problemace? And it's my favorite things. I'm like you're so stupid, you don't know what. Like it makes me so happy. So never the twain shall meet when there's no twain, there aren't two things is amazing.
Speaker 3:But um, they don't take the position like, oh, everybody's redeemable. They do take the position there's a story everywhere, right, wayne says everybody, there's a story everywhere, right, wayne says everybody, there's is madness out there. And the stories are crazy, everything from the, from the uh, the guy who knocks up a girl at the hospital, to the. You know, um, you know what I'm trying to think, like the people who monitor a golf course and stop kids from running across it, to the, the lady that your ticket at the bus stop to, you know. You go on and on, and on, and on and on. How many lives we've seen inside of. But they don't make the position that everybody's redeemable and all they needed was a helping hand, and they're going to be fine. Maureen will never get it right. Blossom's shaking her head.
Speaker 4:I think I mentioned before I was watching what was it it was once Shameless sort of started going downhill. First five seasons still fucking amazing. Four probably are the best. The later ones not so great. But at some point when we were watching it, craig said, I don't know, it's starting to feel like they're not going to make it out. And I'm like, oh yeah, no, dude, for sure, they're definitely not. They're like 100% not. Oh, you were holding on for that. Yeah, yeah, like no, that's not, like absolutely, that's not what's happening. They're just going to continue fucking up in different ways. So, yeah, I definitely prefer that. I like that.
Speaker 4:They also didn't make that Maureen's issues were easily solvable. I'm not saying that she doesn't have issues, I'm just saying that everything, that the fact that she couldn't be a better mother, doesn't mean that Wayne needed one less, and that's her entire situation. Like you couldn't be the mom that he needed you to be. You're a bad mom, like. I'm not saying you're gonna burn in hell or whatever, but you're a bad mom and at this point you are, uh, doesn't don't seem to be capable of fixing that yeah, yeah, um.
Speaker 3:I also want to point out that the uh, in a departure from what we see everywhere else, in a scene with a white man and a black man, it was the 15 year old girl who had all the agency and moved all the plot forward.
Speaker 2:I did, I did like they don't speak like neither man speaks no, and and that should not feel as notable. And then Del goes like is something wrong? Did the boom go out? How come he's not taking a shot? He's a white man, but no, it was really well done, so Del storms off.
Speaker 3:Tommy Cole goes Del and that's it. And then it's just a two-shot with him and Maureen. And he turns to her and points the phone. He's like ugh, and he just goes hey, and what does she say here, boss? Who the fuck are you? Who the fuck are you? And he's like I'm Tommy Cole From Hagler.
Speaker 4:Hagler High. No, I don't remember you. What Were you? Always bald.
Speaker 3:We graduated the same year. We had like a dozen classes together. I don't remember you. And then, what does Orlando chime in from the background, from the cheap seats Coach. What does he say?
Speaker 2:Butthole Tommy Cole.
Speaker 4:Butthole Tommy Cole, oh dang. Butthole Tommy Cole, butthole Tommy Cole, oh dang.
Speaker 2:Just trying to help, so just for those who are not watching or who are just not eyes on it right now. So Tommy Cole turns to Orlando, sort of like. Are you fucking serious? Basically, yeah, I'm serious right now and Orlando says just trying to help, made more funny by the fact that he did quote help, like he.
Speaker 3:Actually, he did solve the problem, it's just that the problem you know, sucked for Tommy Cole. Now I love this next line so much, it makes me so happy. It feels like a boss thing. It's not a me thing, because once I have a personal connection now I feel it comes with all of these I guess, lowering of boundaries or some like if I saw someone I went to high school with and they're on my property after 20 years or whatever, I'd be like oh hey okay, all right, we're in the same thing.
Speaker 3:What can I do for you? I would do something. It would do something to me that I knew. And Orlando says, just trying to help, she goes, oh, butthole Tommy Cole, hey. And he turns back to her and says butthole Tommy Cole. And then what does she say boss.
Speaker 2:Get the fuck off my property. I laughed out loud. That was very funny, smiling at him I. I laughed out loud. That was very funny. Smiling at him, I mean yeah, she was like, yeah, good to see you get the fuck off my property. It was very funny. And then your dog looks like it's going to croak.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we hear a whine from Lucky. Your dog looks like it's going to croak. You're not looking so good. She said maybe you should take it to the woods or something.
Speaker 2:I mean she's basically like if you need a gun, we've got a few like damn.
Speaker 3:I know how to abandon things if you need any help really yeah, actually not, if you need to take it's her go to move.
Speaker 4:She didn't say if you need to go to the vet. I know where a vet is to the woods.
Speaker 2:You're too much trouble now, bye.
Speaker 3:Wow, that was deep. Believe me, leave your puppies. He goes. Oh no, lucky. And him and Orlando. She goes to the cooler to get beverage, which we established is of great importance to her. But these two go, orlando and Tommy Cole go. Oh no, lucky, lucky, lucky, you, okay. And the dog is on its side kind of breathing heavily and he goes. Oh my God, this is not happening. Oh, where's the closest? Okay, where's the closest veterinarian? And Maureen goes out here. Yeah, no, we're in fuck nowhere, which I've never heard as a term. Fuck nowhere, that's a Florida thing. We've talked about this. I've heard east bum fuck, but I've never heard fuck nowhere. And she goes. You know what? Actually, there is this retired animal doctor. I think you can pay him in meth. He maybe takes meth for payment or something. I wonder how she knows that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and then she I wonder why he wouldn't also take cash as payment, because you could use cash to exchange for meth.
Speaker 2:How motherfucking lazy are you? Yeah, do you not know a meth dealer?
Speaker 4:You need your customer to find the meth dealer and to set up the buy and then bring it to you. That's a lot.
Speaker 3:I mean it also gives us a little insight, because how would she know about meth, how would she know that you pay that guy in meth If not that Calvin and Reggie were slinging some?
Speaker 2:meth, right, I mean, yeah, that's the world that she's in, yeah, Also, can we just point out what she's doing here?
Speaker 3:I've always maintained maureen's classiness, uh, as you know, um only, if only, because I in real life, I married, uh, the version of maureen. But um, what, what, what? Oh, smart man, um, what, um, what uh is she doing here, boss? What is she? What she? Her replacement beverage is what?
Speaker 4:oh, it's a beer of some sort. She's putting it into the wine glass, yeah.
Speaker 3:She's drinking out of a wine glass.
Speaker 2:And I'd like to point out that it's a pretty decent pour for somebody who's not even paying attention and I just I point that out specifically because she does a shit ton of drinking. Let me tell you something drinking. Let me tell you something if somebody can have a whole full-on conversation with you while doing a good pour by which I mean not a ton of head on the beer, like the phone that is on top of the beer, and they're not paying attention, they are a drinker. Like it's not. Like do they drink, they are a drinker. I saw that I was like this lady drinks a lot there's this.
Speaker 3:Uh, I've been watching a lot of Brockmire lately, which is a show I love so much, and there's this. The main character, Brockmire, Hank Azaria, is sort of in a relationship and one of the big things when he talks about why I want to stay together, he's like you know, we have this connection. I've never really had a connection like this, but also like, I guess most importantly, like we have the same amount of functional alcoholism, like the exact same amount. And then the next scene they go into a bar and he's like I'll have, you know, whatever, whatever he orders, I forget, but the thing I remember is he's like and for her I need a pint glass filled to the brim with wine.
Speaker 3:No, I'm not kidding, yeah, and I was like great, so it's like that level of they are like drinkers, yeah. So anyway, wait, hold on.
Speaker 4:Before we move on too much from that, because Amanda Peet as Jules how old was? Her last name.
Speaker 3:Jules James. Yeah, jules James, jules James.
Speaker 4:I will not forget Jules James. Later, in one of the later seasons, she is at the restaurant and she says I would like you to bring me a pint glass. You're going to tell me you can't do this, but you're going to bring me a pint glass filled with ice and a bottle of white wine, and you're going to leave the white wine on the table. Before you tell me you can't do this, I'm going to give you a hundred dollar bill.
Speaker 3:Bring me my like just bring it to me.
Speaker 4:I love so much that she's like you're going to tell me you can't do this.
Speaker 3:I promise you you can't I promise, I have had other people do this for me before. And if you hear this and you go amanda pete, like huh, I didn't think she was, I don't know she had this gear, like if you have not seen her in this role you just go.
Speaker 3:Oh my god and then it makes you. That'll make you mad, because she's so good and you're like why didn't she ever get this type of like? Why isn't it? You know, like it's like career defining sort of you know villanelle type of role. It's so good that you go. Oh my god it's unreal.
Speaker 4:There's one scene where some guy who played Jess's boyfriend, new Girl and I don't know his name, but he's real scum on this show and trying to cheat her out of the ballpark.
Speaker 4:And so he's in her face and threatening her Not physically going to beat her up, but you think you can come after me and my company. We're natural gas, we're going to frack this, we're gonna get what we want, right? Nobody, nobody could come up against it. Don't try to play dirty, because nobody. And she just flicks him in his ball sack like very casually, yeah, and as he is doubled over, she says nobody fights dirtier than me and walks away. And I immediately fell in love. If I hadn't been in love before you were in love, I almost said you were in love, I almost jumped into your story to say you fell in love.
Speaker 4:Nobody fights dirty.
Speaker 2:It's my favorite thing.
Speaker 3:That's a super boss moment, gary, played by David Walton.
Speaker 4:That's his name, david Walton. Poor guy. He always plays the dude that the main chick regrets sleeping with. I've seen him do that a few times, incredibly handsome Prick energy, yeah.
Speaker 3:So as Maureen is pouring this, she's shrugging like I think he gets paid in meth and you know that's going to be a full pour. That whole beer's going in that wine glass. Both Orlando and Tommy Cole say fuck fucking Florida.
Speaker 2:That also made me laugh.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and he turns to Lucky Tommy Cole. He says you're not going to die, I'm not going to let you die.
Speaker 2:And Orlando's like I noticed it before Orlando Maybe it's about guys named Orlando, I did and I went man, those nipples are really prominent. I didn't necessarily go all the way down that road, but I did note it. So when it was brought up I was like yep something's going on, coach.
Speaker 3:Coach, noticing nipples is uh, okay, it's the whole thing. So that's still gonna be the fourth podcast. I can tell some stories. Um, uh. So, orlando, goes, hold up this dog, prego, you see the nipples on that thing. Mama's dog is about to have some puppies and, of course, fair Juliet calls from the back. What does she say here, boss?
Speaker 4:Yeah, not on my fucking patio, it's not.
Speaker 2:I love to. Okay, in addition to the fact that we've just established that this animal is in official distress and need of care, and her reaction is not on my patio, but also the word patio is doing a Herculean amount of lifting. It's a lot of work in that fucking sentence like what on your what? There's a forklift, and like tattered plastic chairs and a kiddie pool, so excuse me For her.
Speaker 3:as far as she's concerned, she's having drinks on the lanai.
Speaker 2:I'm like what is? What are we discussing right now? Is you pour a beer into your wine glass because your Costco Pinot Grigio got shattered, but not on my patio. It's just perfect.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it is her to a T. And now we go to, we cut from there to telephone ringing in the Ocala PD, ocala police station. It gets answered by our buddy who was killed, deputy Darren, deputy Darren, yep, and it's basically a series of calls coming in. All the officers start picking up phones. Phones are ringing off the hook. Wait, what did you say is attacking and somebody else is a kangaroo. Deputy Darren, you didn't you shot or you don't? Okay, we'll be right down. Everyone is like they're hearing gunshots on the phone. Was that you shooting the kangaroo Just now?
Speaker 2:Alright, I'm going to pause us. This is like a shameless Just sidestep. So here we go. So this guy calls 911, you got this 911 operator Call comes in and the guy Says oh my god, we hit a deer and we're out on 91 and we need help. And the guy said and the 911 operator says well, is it dead? And then he says hold on. And he goes and we hear gunshot and he comes back and he says he, we hear gunshot. And he comes back and he says he is now there, you go.
Speaker 3:I mean that's the spirit. Of my dear departed father thanks you for that joke.
Speaker 2:That's something he would say it's totally like what I heard as a like you're going to love this one kind of joke.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you're going to love it. All right, sit down. This is a good one, this is a good one, all right. So the sergeant says all right, everybody, we have full scale 1091B in Ocala County. We assume that is the shit's hitting the fan somehow. I need all units in the parking lot right now. The sergeant says and guys start running lot right now. The sergeant says and guys start running. Officers are running, darren, you hold down the fort and keep an eye on that kid, because wayne is the only one in there. That's not a cop. Uh, says I got it. And you know what's interesting?
Speaker 2:it just hit me this time through. I didn't think for a minute. First of all, we've established that darren is a fucking catastrophe. So, like you know, like that matters, I mean, those are your words.
Speaker 3:All he did was shoot the sergeant's brother. It was an accident.
Speaker 2:You're going to have to forgive him, like no one else around has ever made a mistake. Great shit, but it is unbelievable. But I never thought Wayne would take advantage of him. It would be in a bizarre way. It would be a violation of Wayne's code to fuck this guy up and get out of there, though he clearly could.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You see, what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Yes, because you know where his line is. No, he's not going to do that he would never do that.
Speaker 2:He's a clown and he needs to get off that mic. But I'm not going to hurt him.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because he's not doing anything right now that justifies violence.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, dwayne is much more likely to defend Darren because he's a horse's ass, because he is somebody who would be taken advantage of easily, than he is to attack it. We cut back to now. We're inside at the meth compound. We got a single of Orlando looking at his phone. That is some disgusting ass shit. Okay, it says once you see a grayish sack falls from the vulva, tommy Cole is holding Lucky, patting Lucky, trying to calm Lucky down. Man, everybody going to be thrown up in this motherfucker.
Speaker 2:Orlando says Another laugh out loud line Okay, man, everybody's going to be thrown up in this motherfucker. Orlando says Another laugh out loud line Okay, now this next line sweet Jesus, boss, please.
Speaker 3:This is chock full of amazing writing. Everybody's going to be thrown up in this motherfucker. Orlando says and Maureen says here and then what does she say? Coach, go ahead and read this.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, I really feel like boss should do this one. Okay, all right.
Speaker 4:I had to wrestle a Puerto Rican woman and her daughter on Black Friday for these. So don't say I never done nothing for anybody.
Speaker 3:I mean Nothing good for anybody, nothing good for anybody.
Speaker 4:These were important. I had to wrestle people for these.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 3:A Puerto Rican on her dog. I mean, there's so many things in there. That's where she got the towels that she laid down. And now she's in her mind I've done something good, right? Oh yeah, no, she's yeah.
Speaker 2:Mother Teresa over here.
Speaker 4:Well those were important towels. She had to wrestle people for them. Black Friday towels she had to. She had to wrestle people for them also. Um, black friday. No, this is um, this is completely unrelated. It is only the don't say I never did nothing for you, or don't say I never did anything good, whatever that line is. Um, a few years ago, at my younger brother's house, he was making something I think maybe it was deviled eggs and uh, have I told you guys this one? I don't think so. I sprinkled some paprika on the top in order to be fancy, cause that's some fancy shit. And my mom goes Ooh, oh, look, how fancy that is. Where'd you get that paprika? And he said, oh, I got it from this bag and like motions at the spice cabinet. And she goes you got it from your dad. And he said, yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, I got it from my dad.
Speaker 4:He left me this paprika with a note it said. Don't say, I never did nothing for you, I was like hey, kathy. Hey, kathy. You know how long he's been dead. You know that he wouldn't leave anybody a bag of spice. You got it from your dad.
Speaker 3:It's amazing. Yeah, no, this is the Black Friday stuff blows my mind. It's um, uh, in our family conversations, we all we, we like to talk about, okay, why people do anything in society, why does anything happen, and and one of the things we'd like to talk about a lot is, uh, not a lot, but one of the things that's like we sort of universally uh feel similar on in our six know, six person, uh, two parents and four kids unit is like just think about marriage before you get married, because, like, what is the purpose of marriage and what makes marriage you know? Why why?
Speaker 3:have a. You know what makes a marriage official. Why would you? You know, whatever, uh, why would you do this? Um, is it official when it's sanctified by a church? Is it official and sanctified by a government? Like what, what makes is? Does the ring have meaning? So, anyway, we talk about this and and we think that a lot of people do it for the wrong reasons. But then so our favorite, one of our favorite things is when they show women running on black Friday to to tear at wedding dresses. It's an amazing, it's like tear at wedding dresses.
Speaker 3:It's an amazing scene. It's like the most wrong. We start to peel back all of the elements of it and capitalism and what the dress signifies, and then, if violence is warranted in that, it's like the wrongest thing ever. To the point where the first time we showed it to the kids, we're like check this out. Oh, there's my alarm. When we showed it to the kids for the first time, we showed it to the kids, we're like check this out. And um, when we showed it to the kids for the first time, um, uh, my, my daughter, who was 15 at the time, or when she first saw it, we just we watched the thing and then she goes darn, that was that was. Uh. She goes God, I wish I was allowed to smoke. She thought like I've seen, I've now seen the worst of people I need to process, yeah like the worst.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I wish I could have a cigarette after. I wish I was allowed to smoke Because it's so wrong in every possible way, but Maureen will just stare at one Boss. Do you have any Black Friday fights? Fuck, no, I don't go to Black Friday.
Speaker 4:I've never done Black Friday shopping, have you ever?
Speaker 3:camped out on. Brown.
Speaker 2:Thursday.
Speaker 3:You're the first one to get the Zenith.
Speaker 4:Nope, I don't. I am against Black Friday. People should not be shopping. You should be home with your family. You should have it off.
Speaker 4:But, then you won't get deals, boss. So I don't know if you're right about that. I, I love a deal. I have enough, kathy and me, we I hear her screaming on the inside. I am so much like her that I cannot pass up a deal. I fucking love a deal and I still refuse because I find it offensive and I know that some people do it as their family tradition and I don't want to judge that I cannot get that.
Speaker 4:It is the same way that people are like oh, I go to Midnight Mass. I'm like that is absolutely fucking not for me, not my tradition.
Speaker 2:No, thank yous, I grew up doing that. That's funny you say that. But I'll say, for me, the Black Friday thing, there's a lot of them. Me, the black friday thing, there's a lot, there's a lot of them, and it's whether it's for whatever is the thing that year, or the game system that year or whatever you know, whatever that stuff is, and I I get it.
Speaker 2:I think what I see and the reason why, like, I don't even watch the videos anymore, because I used to kind of watch it like holy shit, that's so crazy. But then I watch it every year and then I stopped because I was like this is the same conversation we're having elsewhere, which is wealth inequity has gotten and income inequity has gotten so insane that for the average person to be able to have any luxuries at all, even if that luxury is new towels I want you to think about where your life is for real, that you would be like I'm about to knuckle up for these motherfucking new towels. I can't even think, I really can't even find a scenario in my mind where I would legit be like I will knuckle up about these towels. Even I, who will fight over some shit if the time comes, I'm like nah, not over some towels.
Speaker 3:Man, you got it, you don't know towels, then Coach Maureen got some nice ones, that is fucking wild. Somewhere there's a Puerto Rican mother and her daughter who don't have towels. I hope they fucking learn their lesson wherever they are. They don't tangle with Maureen McDonough when towels are on the line. It is abysmal. What a statement about America. Anyway, she gives them willingly. Don't say I never did you, Let me toss this in real quick because it's a.
Speaker 2:It's a bit of a fun fact, but also for those who don't live in the United States, it's probably all sounds insane. So our Thanksgiving, which is its own bucket of chaos, um, but it's a holiday and so it's always on a Thursday no-transcript the black. So that's why they're all the sales and all that, because they're kicking off the quote holiday season.
Speaker 3:So it's not. It's not, in fact, when white people get to experience the injustice of your average black person in America. No, but.
Speaker 2:I when there's not enough to go around. Let me tell you something right now If there's a committee putting that holiday together, I'd like to be on it.
Speaker 4:Yes, I got some ideas. I would vote for that. I would 100% vote for that, Jeff.
Speaker 2:Tim Chad. These are your resumes. Nice white names. Bye-bye Anyway.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's all right, it's okay, it's okay. He says to Lucky lays Lucky down on. I'm going to take you down slowly. Put some of the nice new towels Not new anymore. Maureen is clocking everything from the background, out of focus. We got a hero shot of Tommy Cole, front and center. He's look at his brows are down. I see the grayish sack.
Speaker 2:This is.
Speaker 3:ER right now, right yeah.
Speaker 2:Beautifully done and I think, as we play with all these things and manhood and whatever I would, in the sort of classic, whatever gender-stereotyped version of this, maureen is front and center, right, like of everyone in the room. The person we know is somewhat familiar with this process is worried.
Speaker 4:Yes, she can't get farther away midwives are traditionally more women than men.
Speaker 3:I think that's fair uh, right, right, yeah right, very good point. Um, it's not nice for, but again, in a better world, men will step up and wash some dishes. So, um, here we go. Uh, we hear squelching, is what the, uh, what the subtitles say squelching, which is all. Orlando turns around, and what does he say coach?
Speaker 2:oh hell, no, no, no, like I mean it's, you just get just a mad. It's got to be so gross, but anyway we get a shot of maureen wincing.
Speaker 3:All right, all right, all right, everybody. All right, give her some room, it's happening.
Speaker 2:And I love that. He doesn't know. He doesn't know. We're Googling on phones. It is chaos, but he's here All this talk of abandonment. Let me tell you what Tommy Cole is not going to do. Tommy Cole is not going to abandon. That's some shit Tommy Cole ain't going to do. Tommy Cole is not going to abandon. That's some shit Tommy Cole ain't going to do. And we're really going to experience that soon.
Speaker 3:He's talking directly to Lucky too. He's in it, he's trying to comfort the dog.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we got it. It's all that. Yeah, sorry.
Speaker 3:Now we get a shot of the Nissan Leaf driven by one, sergeant Geller, stephen Geller, he's got some upbeat music playing. Good thing, you love soup with your jaw being wired shut. Now we finally get some closure on Officer Jay, and Jay is holding. He's got a swollen jaw and he's holding some ice pack to it. He looks like shit, but at least we didn't know what happened to him. But now we see, okay, jay survived. What does he say here, coach? Yeah, fuck you dude. Fuck you, dude for the uninitiated.
Speaker 3:Right. And then Geller, being Geller, says look, I know that's the drugs talking, jay, but if it means something to you, I love you too. And what does Officer Jay say back to him?
Speaker 2:I say fuck you dude, so he makes sure he can hear him clearly that time. And Kelly just says Jesus. Drugs do not agree with you, my friend.
Speaker 3:And so they drive by a little area and they cops everywhere Right and, and Geller goes oh, what's going on here. And they pull over and you know, see, um, we got officers said I need units in the back and guys are guns drawn. Uh, geller walks up to the Sergeant, flashes his badge, goes, what's the situation? The sergeant whose brother got shot by Officer Dingleberry, a bunch of wild animals Run around Ocala. The guy says we got reports of a lion, large snakes, an ostrich. And we hear Screaming and Sort of a rookie looking cop comes out and what does he yell? Boss, it's a puma, it's a puma. And we hear screaming and sort of a rookie looking cop comes out, and what does he? What does he?
Speaker 4:yell boss, it's a.
Speaker 2:Puma. It's a Puma. He is holding his throat, slash neck and there is blood, like he knows. It's a Puma for a very specific reason. This is not an observation made at a distance.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so he screamed I love this, I love so much about this show, but I was cackling. Julianna and I were watching this and Julianna is the greatest person and even she was like this is you know, like she can't even like brings out her twist inside. But the guy's like it's a fucking Puma. It's a fucking Puma, help me, help me. Like he's running, running holding in his neck and he's swerving because he's freaking out because of the blood and and then they shoot, they go right back to the shot of killer and the Sergeant. And how much help are are they giving him here, coach?
Speaker 2:That would be none. They both, they're both looking on like yikes, like it's not that they haven't processed, but they're not. There's nothing for them to do. He seems to be heading for help, so you know whatever.
Speaker 3:I just I love that they just didn't. They don't flint.
Speaker 2:They both just observe it, and then I was really hoping for the ostrich which.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was really hoping for the ostrich. No, this is damn, we rolled the dice and it came up Puma Exactly. We're going to need an ambulance at 1078,. The guy says Puma growls. And then Geller looks around and what does he notice? He sees all the cops running. What and what does he notice? He sees all the cops running. What does he say here, boss, who's watching Wayne?
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, so did that put it together for y'all. Because as soon as that was said, I was like uh, you know what I mean. Like before, could we cut to a foot, stepping into the police station, that's, you know. We have a pretty good guess how would you describe this foot? Is gilded.
Speaker 3:The right term Gilded yes.
Speaker 2:It dips. Yes, the sneakers with the gold, which you know we're not going to go back political, but there have been some gold sneakers for sale in the recent history of the United States of America, so that's funny in itself, but anyway, yeah. So in walks the gold shoes, We've got a matching gold stripe up the pant.
Speaker 3:Racing stripe? Yeah, why not? We recognize the drip at this point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're pretty sure we know that this is a red jacket.
Speaker 3:Is that? This could be just me applying at this point? We're pretty sure we know that this is Reggie, and are those? This could be just me applying my own narrative to it, but is that Is the gold leafing and the striations on the sole? There is the black part meant to be seams on a football. Are these football shoes and those are the seams? Or is that just me applying?
Speaker 2:No, I mean, there's definitely something going on there. I don't think it's supposed to be a football, but I see what you're looking at. I just think it's yeah, just it feels done at home somehow to me, yeah, so I think that also adds to it.
Speaker 4:These are the gym shoes that you shouldn't run in, whatever sort of terrible Frankenstein design happened here. They have taken away the nature of the tennis shoe, and you can no longer exercise in it or else it will break your ankle. You could maybe do some. What do they call that? Cross spike, something or other. It's some sort of cycling.
Speaker 3:Okay, I don't know which one that is.
Speaker 4:I like a fucking motorbike Like you're going to go jump up some hills, motorcross, oh, motocross, motocross, there we go.
Speaker 3:That's it, I got there Like a motocross pants. Yeah, these do look like motocross pants there we go.
Speaker 3:That's it. I got there Like the motocross pants. Yeah, these do look like motocross pants. Okay, yeah, because he's got pads on the knees. Here's the thing where this is just inside baseball.
Speaker 3:Okay, a complaint, a very valid complaint of shows and movies and specifically video games. Something that the video game industry is desperately trying to break out of, but having a very difficult time, is the male gaze and specifically the sexualization of characters, where, when they choose um camera angles and camera shots, it's a lot of tna, uh, tits and ass for, for the uninitiated, and so you pan up like a girl's body and you know you catch every curve along the way. Oh yeah, that's how men look at women, and so what is so goddamn beautiful about this shot is this is this, is that this? Is that? This is a? This is this camera shot is lascivious, it is. It is borderline, unhinged with how much beauty it attributes to Reggie. It is gorgeous.
Speaker 3:They start with his feet, they pan around, there's a movement to the front of him, we get his hands, we get his tats, we get his bracelet, and then we see in his hand hanging aside his right hand is hanging aside and he's holding like where, how people would hold a cigarette. He's holding a toothpick and as soon as we pan up to his head, he inserts the toothpick. This is all slow-mo in slow motion, and that's how we see reggie, because who's watching wayne? And then, and then, the gods of cinema, of cinematography, say here's who the fuck is watching wayne. Here's your big bad here. This is the moment you've waited for, right, and he is in his full regalia. He's in his armor motocross pants with gold leaf right and and also who is charged with watching.
Speaker 2:Wayne is the worst police officer ever, like we've established. We have firmly established that darren sucks at this.
Speaker 4:I mean Presnolowski from the Wire. Would like a word, but yes.
Speaker 3:That's funny. That's a deep cut, but yes, that's very funny. I mean, he was at least Whatever. Okay, we won't even, but yes, that's a great reference. Darren says into the karaoke mic can I help you with something? And what does Reggie say here, boss?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'd like my 1979 Trans Am.
Speaker 3:And he says, oh, let's see, Vehicle is now in impound evidence. It's being shipped back to Brockton Massachusetts.
Speaker 4:Well, that's all right, then why don't you just go ahead and call me an ambulance?
Speaker 3:For who?
Speaker 4:And then he picks up the mic and says you, Reggie does. Picks up the mic and says you Hits him across the head with it and I have to admit I don't know if that would have knocked him out. I have twirled a karaoke mic. I don't know if that would have knocked him out. I have twirled a karaoke mic. I don't know if that would have enough heft to it to actually do anything, unless Deputy Darren really is that bad at staying awake.
Speaker 3:First of all, I take it as a personal affront that you're not factoring in that he's got three gold leaf stripes on his zip-up.
Speaker 4:It's not actually a video game, though, so that doesn't you can't like. Power up your punches. This isn't like. This is florida and then you jump real high when you're mario.
Speaker 3:That that's not how this works okay, well, that's clearly someone from chicago thinks that, but this is reggie in florida, and so, yes, and also, he did jump and hit him. Um, that would be a charging penalty in hockey. He left his feet. And when he left his feet, I'll just point out I should have paused it. I love this so much. His pants are so far down his legs that every member of the silent generation is turning over in their graves, right now, I didn't even notice that.
Speaker 2:That is perfection. Right, that is perfection, that's just perfect. That's exactly where Reddy's pants would be if he had to jump and do anything.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's amazing. So get the fuck out of here talking about pounding and shit Goes through the. He just looks through, he's at the front desk, finds the bag rip, motherfucker, rips open the keys and he's like and I'm out, and then boss, and then he is walking out the door and then on his way, on his way out.
Speaker 4:What happened? What happened to your boss? Out of the corner of his eye, he catches something and turns back In order to see Wayne Still handcuffed to the side of the desk, and he says, oh, hey, now yeah. And he goes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's beautiful, I'm smiling, I'm smiling. Oh, hey, now, yeah, and he goes. Yeah, it's beautiful, I'm smiling, I'm finally as I'm watching oh, hey, now wayne. And wayne, of course, is like reggie, totally non-plus, like he's like, oh, fuck that and but even this piece speaks to who they each are.
Speaker 2:It's like exactly what I said about the fact that wayne we know wayne is not going to take advantage of darren. He's not going to just beat him up like that's not, because why would you do that? He's not. But that's exactly what reggie would do, like he's not been done wrong here. The car's impounded, like you know what I mean. Like but somehow you know so. But that's what he wants, so he's gonna go get it. And also, wayne wouldn't wait until you're tied up for the showdown. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But you know who really really would? Reggie Really really would, that is who the fuck he is.
Speaker 3:Reggie is like I'm going to go to the cops and punch somebody out and get my car back, because that's bullshit that he's trying to take my car, Whereas in most places you know that's a real Florida man move, is all I'm saying. Most places you probably wouldn't march in to your local constable and demand your impounded vehicle back. But hey, okay, we're going to stop there because I want to suck the barrel out of this scene. It is beautiful. What's coming up is delicious, Coach. Where do people find you if they want to suck the bear out of this scene? It is beautiful. What's coming up is delicious, Coach. Where do people find you if they want to find you?
Speaker 2:Come through. We align, wealignalignpcom. We're going to have the first episode of More Afraid of the Bear up next week. We are getting the Alignful meditations out. We put the first one up the tagline on. That is real meditation for real motherfuckers. If that gives you a sense of how we're coming at that Very Buddhist, you like it right. So yeah, come through. We are charging ahead, making life better for folk.
Speaker 3:Okay, boss, what about you?
Speaker 4:You can find me on threads. It is emilychambers.31. And also, as soon as I can get my life together, writing at the Antagonist, which is antagonistblogcom.
Speaker 3:Love it. Thank you, boss. I want to say one more thing before we go. I just want to put this on people's radar because it's a, it's a, it's a fun thing and it's directly relates to the Ted Lasso of it all and specifically like how coach was directing and the coach that I know coach Bishop to be. You know that I get very excited about this time of year because it's hockey playoffs. Less excited because the Bruins are out. You know that I get very excited about this time of year because it's hockey playoffs. Less excited because the Bruins are out.
Speaker 3:The Bruins knocked out the team of our dear friend, the King of the Buttercups, and so Jeff could sort of lament that. And then the Bruins were in hand, knocked out. There's Dallas, edmonton and the New York Rangers. New York Rangers are the team of Buttercup Eric, and so very, very rare to hear a Boston fan root for any New York team, but anybody but Florida. Florida Panthers are up 3-2 in their series. By the time this airs they may have already finished off the Rangers. I hope not. But I'm willing to root for anybody but Florida, not just because of Wayne, just because I really hate the Panthers. But that being said, something else happened in sports besides Nadal having his last French Open? Have you guys either one of you I don't think it's on the generic radar of a non-specific fan of this, but have I mentioned women's soccer to you guys before, here and there? Have you ever noticed? I'm a fan.
Speaker 4:Vaguely. I mean, I feel like if it's women's soccer it should be called Sock Him, but that's fine.
Speaker 3:Not a bad play on words.
Speaker 2:I'm there with you on that one Good job.
Speaker 3:The United States women's national soccer team, of which I'm a diehard fan and supporter, has a new coach, and the new coach has me so excited that watching footage of her doing anything coaching with the united states women's national soccer team is pretty much my new religion. Like it's all I do, I cannot get enough of it. And here's the thing. Her name is Emma Hayes. She is a absolutely. I think she's the best coach on the planet. I think she's the best person for the job.
Speaker 3:I've been a huge fan because when my daughter picked Arsenal as her women's super league team years ago, you know you got to pick these premier league teams and if you're American it's hard to know who to pick. I had ended up picking. Years ago I picked Chelsea as my team, which is an embarrassment if you're an American, because they're like the Yankees or the Red Sox. It's like you don't pick Chelsea, you pick anybody else. But my favorite actor, one of my favorites of all time, is Michael Caine, and he grew up as like a poor kid who loved Chelsea and I just sort of gravitated there. So I always had rooted for Chelsea in the women's Super League and 12 years ago Emma Hayes was hired by Chelsea with the intent of the owner saying, listen, we got to bring down our arsenals like the only name in women's soccer and we got to do something about it. And 12 years later, emma said, when she first took over, they didn't have balls, like you know, they were like, they didn't have pylon, like nothing, like literally nothing. And then she, over the last 12 years, built Chelsea into one of the top three teams on the planet and now she's coach of the women's national soccer league national soccer team.
Speaker 3:And what is so exciting about this is coach, she's your kind of coach. She is a player's first coach. She, she has this thing where, okay, like coach, you're going to totally understand this Her last game at Chelsea they won the championship, this is just last week and and then she had to like basically say bye to her players. And I'm watching, luckily, thank God. I hate when they cut the coverage after the game, because the human interactions are so important after anything. I just love watching that and I'm watching her players hug her right and it's like. Sometimes you're like, oh, you hear things. There's the public perception, the coach and then the private. So you're like, oh, do they really like her or do they not?
Speaker 3:you know, it's like or do you think behind her back she sucks and if you watch them hugging right, you'll kind of get a sense of how they interact with her. And these players are coming up, coach, and they're hugging her and rubbing her back and putting their face in her neck and kissing her on the forehead. This is their coach. Wow, and they can't. There's not enough. Then she goes to the press conference to say bye to the press and then the press says hey, we gave you a real hard time when you first got here, but you taught us a lot.
Speaker 3:And then the press asked to take a picture with her before she goes and I'm like what am I watching here? It was like so, ted Lasso, you know what I mean? Yeah, and her father, before her father passed away, she said she spent time in New York and worked in different soccer programs in New York. And she says I was born in the UK, born in England, but I was raised in America, I grew up in America, is what she says. And her father passed away a couple of years ago and he said to her if you ever have a shot at the United States Women's National Soccer Team job, it's the best job on the planet for a coach, you grab that job.
Speaker 3:So she left chelsea to come and coach and and it is so exciting to see what she's already brought to the team you know to see like because she's all about like. Her philosophy is like if you're sick, you call me and you tell me if you, if you're feeling down, if you're feeling blue, if you feel whatever, and she'll be like okay, you need to eat, like she's. She's so invested in the players and the people you know. I mean that they have this unbelievable connection. So I'm putting that on everyone's radar because the us team has like sort of taken a dip.
Speaker 3:They used to be sort of the number one team on the planet and and now, um, they have all talent in the world, they have all the best player pool on the planet, but now they also have the coach to go with it, and so I just want everyone to be aware of it, because this feels like a turning point and it's pretty exciting from a coaching standpoint. If you love great coaching, holy mackerel, we got. We got a good one. So, yeah, just want to put that on everybody's radar.
Speaker 3:Thank, just want to put that on everybody's radar. Thank you everybody. Thank you for joining us. We will be back next time with part four of Wayne, episode 10. Buckle the fuck up and yeah, that's it. I can't wait to talk about the next scene. It's so much fun. Yeah, yeah, we'll definitely get into that. Until next time. We are Richmond, richmond. Two weeks. It's a fucking Puma. Help, help alright, thanks everybody. We'll see you next time.