Offseason Dynasty Moves

The OG and Fantasy Uncle discuss what they are thinking about in their offseason Dynasty league. We look over a few teams and discuss what e think they could do to improve their chances next season. We also discuss the latest and greatest in sporting news

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Speaker: 0:00

Hello, hello, hello. Welcome to another edition of the Pine Pony Podcast. We're back. It's me, D. O. G. and what's happening, Persian Fantasy Uncle. Ready for a fantasy episode? Howdy, howdy.

Speaker 2: 0:16

Absolutely. Always glad to be chopping it up with the original strengthster and you know, love it when we get to talk about fantasy. Today will be specifically about dynasty stuff. So I know it's becoming more and more popular. You might already be in a dynasty league, but if not. Something you thought about. Hey, listen up.

0:38

The Pony Pony Podcast.

Speaker: 0:44

So let's let's hang out. Let's let's chat some fantasy talk. But first, I want to talk about some current events. Currently, the Denver Nuggets lost. They're out.

Speaker 2: 0:59

Poor Nuggies. What happened? I don't know what happened, man. The more I think about it, the more I think that the Timberwolves are actually just They're pretty good. Like, right. But it was shocking, even though they, they whooped us in the first two games and, you know, it was a close series overall. I should, I shouldn't have been so shocked. I really was like, okay. We're going to Denver. All of the same motherfuckers that clutched up game after game last off season or last post season, they're still on our team. They're going to clutch up and get this done at home. No problems. Like. You know, we're going to put the toys away and quit playing. We're going to go to work. And they just came out kind of flat. And like I said, I, I think, I think the Timberwolves just played really well. They just took it to us. And I mean, you know, it sucks, but you know, you just kind of got a little more, you got to give it up to him. You gotta be like, all right, you know, good game. I mean, They did good at slowing us down. You know, they did good rebounding and getting turnovers, all the, all them little things that add up to wins. I mean, they just, they played well. So, you know, it's unfortunate. I thought we were going to at least make a run to the finals, but disappointment.

Speaker: 2:33

Yeah, not this year. So that leads us with Dallas and Minnesota. Dallas is already up one game on the series game two tomorrow night. Then Celtics are already up. One game on the Pacers. Game two is happening right now. 54, 51. Yeah. Celtics are up.

Speaker 2: 2:59

Yeah, I think at this point, I think at this point the Celtics are like a pretty clear favorite to win it all. But hey, you never know. One thing I do definitely believe is I think that the Timberwolves are a real threat here. I think that they are, you know. A good team, or at least they're playing super well right now. You know,

Speaker: 3:22

we shall see, we shall see. One other thing I wanted to bring up was Roger Goodell and the owners, I believe had a meeting this past week and there was not intent discussion. About an 18th game, but there was some discussion and basically it's going to happen. It's just a matter of when they'll get rid of a preseason game and then add an 18th game. And I believe they can also see it working to where Super Bowl Sunday is on President's Day, I believe, or the day before President's Day. So everyone has Monday off.

Speaker 2: 4:11

Yeah, this I love this. I love, I, I know that the players association has tried to push back on us, but I think this was kind of always in the cards. It is eventually going to be like that. And I think it's amazing that they could finally get super bowl Sunday, which for most Americans already functions as a holiday to get that with the day off afterwards. I mean, so many people love to host Superbowl parties, go to Superbowl parties and. Being, being able to sort of go all out make a holiday out of the Super Bowl is great for the NFL, but it's also great for the fans to not have to worry about work the next day for a while. For a lot of them, they'll end up having it off, which I think is just great. Of course, I love it as a fan. It's another game, you know, it's another week that I get to cheer on my team. It's

Speaker: 5:06

not just another game though. It's another meaningful game. Like we are, it's not like they're adding a game. They're taking a game from preseason to add it to a meaningful schedule.

Speaker 2: 5:18

Yeah. And I think that's basically the compromise that they're making with the association here. So it's like, look, we're. actually shortening the part of the season you guys hate the most, which is the training preseason shit. And not only that, but we're going to make it to where every team gets an extra buy. So your body gets an extra rest day in there somewhere, especially if you are on a good team that ends up making a Super Bowl run, you know, you're gonna, you're gonna love that you got that extra week off. And so I think it's a sort of thing that is absolutely going to happen sooner rather than later. I also saw, you may have heard of this already but they are, they are doing away with the chains for the preseason. They're using the chips to, to chart first downs instead of the chains. And what, what I thought was actually surprising was they said that if it does go well in the preseason with no hiccups. Then they're going to go ahead and use it for this regular season.

Speaker: 6:25

So it's going to be awful is what you're saying. So it's going to be terrible in the preseason. So they can justify, so they could just not using it in the regular season.

Speaker 2: 6:35

Now

Speaker: 6:36

I

Speaker 2: 6:37

was shocked at how aggressive the timeline is. Like they're literally, they're not just trying it out every now and then. It's going to be no chains. for the preseason to see how many hiccups there are. And then if it works well, they're not even going to push it to next season or what, they're just going to be like, boom, right now, 2024. Well, I hope, I hope it works well. It's good news because we literally could already be done. We never have to see another chain in the NFL ever again at this point. We'll see how it goes because yeah, they find ways to fuck things up. But

Speaker: 7:15

yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2: 7:16

I thought it was good news though.

Speaker: 7:18

Well let's move over to some bad news in the NFL or at least what I think is some bad news. Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes kind of backing their boy, Harrison Buckner with his commencement speech talking about like women are meant to be housewives and just all kinds of, of nonsense. And oh, he meant it. Well, like, I'm sorry, man. That's kind of, that's a little backwards. Why? Like, why is my homes like y'all didn't need to say anything. You didn't need to say a word. You didn't have to back him. You could have just, just let this go away. But no, they had to, they had to stand by him.

Speaker 2: 8:08

Yeah, I actually thought that this might be, be the reaction. I, I figured they're either going to stay silent and just stay out of the way of the bullets, or they're going to be like, yo, that's our boy. That's our friend. And so they're going to be like, yo, this is just a small piece of him. You guys don't know the real him. He's a nice guy or whatever. And see, my thing is he

Speaker: 8:30

hates, he hates women in their rights.

Speaker 2: 8:33

And the, and the thing is that like great guy, my thing is that he may very well could be well intentioned and he believes every little thing he's saying. And the thing is that like. It still needs to be called out and addressed though. You see what I'm saying? Like it's, it doesn't really matter. Cause the thing is like you had, and I like, this is no shit. This is true. You had well meaning people. Who loved the slaves back in the day saying, Oh, it's okay. Because I'm going to be nice to my slaves and shit like that. Like it's right. It's fucked up. The thing is I'm going to

Speaker: 9:07

treat them like I'm going to treat them. Well, it's like, I'm going to treat them good. Okay.

Speaker 2: 9:11

Yeah.

Speaker: 9:11

Well, what does that mean? Oh, cause you give them a better living space.

Speaker 2: 9:17

Yeah, I think it's always cringe when it's like

Speaker: 9:19

caged animals versus non caged animals. It's like oh my chickens roam free Yeah,

Speaker 2: 9:26

I think I think it's just always cringe when you're trying to tell a certain group of the population Whatever that group is What's going to be good for them and how they need to find their happiness and what they need to do to be righteous and Good people or whatever that shit is. It's like bro. It's not it's not your place You're overstepping not only that but you sound super ignorant right now. It's not a good look and it's like I I don't even hate you. You're not even necessarily some kind of monster, but you're wrong as shit. And it needs to get called out period. You know what I mean? Like, you deserve what's coming to you because you were the one who was so confident in that garbage that you want to go out and make a thing of it. You know,

Speaker: 10:09

speaking of some other commencement speeches real quick, I was watching last week tonight with John Oliver and he had a little bit about commencement speeches. And man, they, they're just bad. They're awful. Like, they're not good.

Speaker 2: 10:27

I haven't seen a ton of like cringy ones, but I I've seen a few of them that where it's just like, what the hell? This is not what you're here for. What

Speaker: 10:38

Thomas Jefferson university had the person calling the names, they had the name and then underneath it, they had like, you know, the, the pronunciation in parent parentheses. And this poor lady who was saying was like saying the way you, you sounded out as she's like, Vir, John, yeah Smith, what? Yeah. So if anybody has an HBO, go check out the latest episode of last week's tonight with John Oliver. It was, it was pretty good. And it was about corn. So anyway, enough of that little, little tidbit.

Speaker 2: 11:26

Also I saw that Rashid Rice actually had his assault charge dropped and. I think a lot of people are like, Oh, this is, this is good. This is good news for him. This is going to move the needle. I don't think it changes anything. It's pretty obvious that the incident happened. The photographer had a big fucking welt on the side of his face, you know, somebody got paid off and so he dropped the whole thing or whatever. But the thing is that Roger Goodell does not necessarily have to follow suit with, Whatever happens in the legal system, just because it was dropped doesn't mean that he's not taking that into consideration. I think we are still looking at a pretty lengthy suspension eventually when all the shit shakes out for Rasheed Rice. And so I just kind of wanted to mention that real quick because I saw a lot of kind of positivity based on that charge. I just don't think it matters much as far as the NFL is concerned.

Speaker: 12:26

Yeah, justice will be served or should be served. Alright, moving into the main topic. And so we're going to talk about a little bit of dynasty off season and what you think, well, you know, what did you do in Persian? You know, what, what do you think maybe others could be doing based on their Position and what their team has. So, you know, we'll hit up some teams and go through what they have and then see what, what you think, what they should do if you were in their position. So, so, you know, let's start it off with like off season immediately. Like, what are your thoughts while it's kind of in the dead period? Like, what are you doing?

Speaker 2: 13:09

For me, this is the perfect time. For me to basically sit back and take stock of the situation, I've been looking at my teams and I've been thinking to myself, like, okay, where do I sit in the hierarchy of the league right now? Like, I'm taking a look at the other teams in my league and I'm thinking to myself. Do I think my team's actually as strong as this team right now or weaker or clearly stronger? You know, I think I was

Speaker: 13:41

last year.

Speaker 2: 13:44

Yeah, well, it's not the only league I'm in, but yeah, in our league, you know, I was tanking last year. It was a rebuild situation. I think I'm coming out of that it this coming season, but but at any rate, what I have been doing is, you know, taking stock of, you know, like, I think my wide receivers are pretty strong. And I think that my running backs are weak. I think that my quarterbacks and my tight ends are kind of in an okay place. I would love to upgrade them, but it's not necessary. And I'm thinking about how, how could I get from where I'm at right now to a stronger running back room? And part of that has been taking a look at the other teams in my league. Like the same way that I'm sizing up my team is I'm sizing up the other teams because I'm looking for convenient trade partners here where maybe a weakness for me is a strength for them, you know, and maybe it's like, Hey, I'll trade you. A little bit of RV production for a little bit of your wide receiver production and stuff like that, or it's teams where it's like, Hey, I think that my team is going to be in a rebuild and I'm wanting to get younger. And so my sort of aging veterans, maybe I'm willing to sell it at a decent price to them for their younger players, players that I'm, I'm buying in on that. Maybe they're not. Expecting to score so many points or whatever. You could do trades like that too, where they're obviously all in on the next season and you're not quite there. Stuff like that. I'm just trying to, I'm both trying to take stock of my team and then find me who might be trade partners to get me where I'm trying to go.

Speaker: 15:33

Are you taking a lot of look at like building in the draft? If you got a aged out team, cause you. You typically like to stay young, you know, how much stock are you putting into that rookie draft year in and year out? You know, I guess it could be depending on how big your dynasty league is. I mean, our, our lease, what 18. So. There's quite a bit going to be in the rookie draft for, for our,

Speaker 2: 16:01

our league is eight teams, but we have an extended starting roster. So the, the overall feel of our league feels more like a deep league than it does an eight team league. But yeah, there's. There's, there's another couple things that actually I wanted to touch on, which, which I'm going to be doing. I haven't necessarily done a lot of it yet but one thing that I think I'm doing that could apply to you and to basically everyone playing Dynasty is that I'm looking at the players that I think are What did they do last year? Like right now I'm looking at last season. I'm thinking who underperformed, who disappointed, who are the players that I can tell myself a story on why they're going to bounce back next season, who am I actually bought in on? And I mean, just off the top of my head here, I could tell you that like Deontay Johnson, I think that he's going into a situation where he's going to outperform last season. And I think that a guy like, like Bijon. He ended up having to split work and he didn't get as much workload as people expected. And now that there's a whole new coaching staff in there I think that you're going to see him shine in a way that he didn't last year anthony richardson was injured so he wasn't producing all last year These are guys you might be able to get from the owners who are who are just like man this guy disappointed I

Speaker: 17:39

mean, if anyone is trading that player away, the rookie, the rookie fantasy owners, well, too young to trade away.

Speaker 2: 17:50

I mean, here's the thing though, is that I traded for Deontay Johnson and Anthony Richardson since the end of last season, I successfully did. But I mean, we're

Speaker: 18:01

talking, but at the end of you talking about in the off season.

Speaker 2: 18:06

Yeah. Like right after the season ends all the way up to So what basically what I'm saying is that it don't even have to be those players. It don't have to be the players. I think those are some of the players that I think, you know, just off the top of my head, like a guy like T Higgins. I think that there's reason to believe that that entire Bengals offense is going to rebound next year. And I think in our league, you're the one that has T Higgins. And I think you, I think I tried to get him from you and you were like, no, I also think he's going to rebound. So no, if you want them, you go have to pay up. But the thing is, It could be anyone that you believe in that, that underperformed last year are good targets for trade targets. That's what I'm saying. Like, you know, last year, I mean,

Speaker: 18:51

I hear you, but I mean, I think your examples are Like those are people who are gonna be kept even if they underperformed at least for one more season. And because they're gonna be stashed on the on the bench.

Speaker 2: 19:07

Oh, you'd be surprised though. A lot of times people are impatient. They're just like, this dude is not getting it done. Fuck him. Like they're ready to move off of these guys. I mean, last year you and I made the trade who was it? JSN. Right? And I sent you Gardner Menchu, I think it was Gardner Menchu plus a pick. Something like that. And it's just like, Hey, look, I, I'm willing to wait and see if something will still, yeah, but that's a

Speaker: 19:32

different, that's a different thing. I needed quarterbacks cause I had injuries.

Speaker 2: 19:38

Yeah, but it's, it's still the same situation where basically you found a player that you believe in that the current owner is not necessarily sold off. That's, that's all I mean is that you'd be surprised at when these players have a down season, another guy, Chris Godwin, like it, they,

Speaker: 19:57

I'm saying the people are stupid. That's all I'm saying. I don't care what, I'm not surprised. I know people do stupid shit all the time. But, like, to give up on B. John Robinson after one season, that's just dumb. That's terrible fantasy play.

Speaker 2: 20:15

I'm not saying you're necessarily going to be able to go and get these specific Guys stupid. No, I know that,

Speaker: 20:20

I know that we're, I'm not saying that. I'm just using, continuing with your example. If somebody were to give up on a young player like that, the need has to be the, the offer had had to have been wicked good. Like as in he, they are getting players that are immediate impacts or like they were so desperate in need of something to like just. Yeah. Which is still again, players with immediate impact.

Speaker 2: 20:57

Sure. I see what you're saying. And I think part of the problem here is that I tend to target those players who are young and so you're basically in a divestee

Speaker: 21:07

league. That's the, you should.

Speaker 2: 21:09

Yeah, well, but the thing is not everyone sees it that way. You know, like Smith, he's usually just like, I want to win. I'm going for the fucking championship. And so I'll trade for, well, you got to have a good blend of those things. Sure. Sure. It. I'm just saying that for me, these are players that I think you're, you're, you personally are saying, nah, there's no way I'd give them up. But a lot of people not necessarily, they don't necessarily see it that way. Like, all right, so here's another example, right? So a guy that I wouldn't necessarily target because he's just sort of getting up there in age, but I think that Calvin Ridley is going to be in for a bigger season this season than he had last season. I think that DeAndre Hopkins, we'll see he's on my team. Yeah. Yeah. See, that's someone that you might be willing to trade away. If someone believes in him, it's just like he had a down season. I mean, there was no, I mean, to be fair, I was,

Speaker: 22:06

I'm sitting here looking at my team and I'm like, eh, I'm not really loving my wide receiver group and I could improve, but I wasn't, I'm never like, look, I'm like, I'm not going to get rid of Calvin Ridley, I'm looking at other players on my team and I would stash him and try to improve. Other wide receiver spots like that are on my bench that I could pull in because we do have, I mean, our league is a little different. We have a deep, deep bench.

Speaker 2: 22:35

Yeah. Our, our league is like, you, you need to have more than just two or three good options. At wide receiver, like you need to have, hopefully for running back and wide receivers, you've got one or two guys on your bench that you, that you have no problem putting into the starting lineup because we need to play a bunch of dudes each week. But I don't have that at all, but yeah, I still would recommend. I'm definitely going to send out a whole bunch of offers for guys that you just, the owner might be more willing to move off of that. You, then you realize, you know, sometimes when guys disappoint,

Speaker: 23:17

the

Speaker 2: 23:19

owner's like, fuck them, you know, whatever. And so it never hurts to throw out an offer. That's what I'm doing. I'm, I'm going to be putting out lots of offers for guys just to see if they're done with them. They're done with them, you know? Also, another thing that I wanted to bring up is that's like, try to do as much as you can to prepare for the rookie draft. You want to think about what

Speaker: 23:42

are you doing to prepare?

Speaker 2: 23:45

Yeah. I am literally looking out. A ton of stuff in the book you draft and I don't think you need to get into all the prospects as much as I do that's going to take a bunch of fucking time and effort, right? But for me personally, I want to look at as many details as possible. I want to know as much as I can about the incoming class. I want to be able to look at the class and be like, is it strong for this position or weak for this position? Which position do I need on my team? And which sort of rounds of the draft will I need to be, have shots at in order to get these sort of guys, for instance, for me, I'm looking at upgrading my running back room and it's not a great draft to do that. So I'm not necessarily wanting to do that via the rookie draft, but what I do like about the incoming running back class is that they're going cheaper in these drafts. Like they're going to get pushed down in these rounds for these hyped up wide receivers and quarterbacks. There's tons of wide receivers, quarterbacks, and even some good landing spots for tight ends. These running backs, you're going to be able to take shots on them for cheap prices. Meaning it's not going to be a big deal if they don't work out guys like Jalen Wright Marshawn Lloyd, Ray Davis. These are, they're in pretty good offenses where if, if the starter gets injured, all of a sudden you're going to have a nice piece that can actually help you. And like I said, You're going to be able to get them cheap. So one thing that I'm going to try to do is I'm actually going to try to trade back. I, I want to take one of my pigs, whether it's like a second rounder and be like, look, I'll trade you one second rounder, which is going to be a pretty Nice prospect and give me two thirds and a fifth. Give me a two, two thirds and a future fifth or this player plus a third or whatever. I actually think I want to take shots at the second half of the draft for these cheap running backs where I could just take several shots and they're going to be. Not necessarily the dude, but they're going to be the dude. If anything happens to the current dude. And I, I like those situations for running backs because you get good production for a very cheap cost.

Speaker: 26:09

Well, not only that, I mean, they could be the dude after the dude. So exactly. Dynasty league, you know, I

Speaker 2: 26:16

mean,

Speaker: 26:17

if you're drafting for, if you're already set at running back, you could. Later on in the draft, take your shots at these, at these players. Yeah, it's, it's

Speaker 2: 26:28

an excellent point. Some of these running backs are behind guys who their contract's going to be up at the end of next season, which means. You're going to get to keep them even though you didn't pay shit for them in at the back of your draft, you're going to be able to keep them when they are going to be the dude. And, you know, the beauty of that is that you're going to be in the driver's seat if you want to trade them for of a value in another position or a future pick or whatever. You could always do that too if you find you have too much running backs. But for me, that's kind of something that I want to do is because. I think not only do I need to upgrade my starters are running back, but I also need more, more depth. I also don't love the sort of depth I'm working with either. So I'm thinking I'm gonna find me a trade partner that wants to jump up and get one of these hyped up rookies, and I'm gonna take several shots at, at these running backs. That's kind of what I'm thinking right now, but there's a ton of different ways to approach this. But for me, I'm just trying to learn as much as I can. About the class. I don't want to be one of these people who's in around two of my rookie draft. And I'm like, I've never heard of any of these guys, you know what I mean? Because more than likely, more than likely, what's going to end up happening is you're going to be like, I don't really care. You're going to be willing to trade that pick away because, you know, you don't, you don't know who to have these dudes are anyways, you're devaluing it more than you should just because you're not familiar. Yeah. I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to do that.

Speaker: 28:01

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 28:02

One thing, one thing that I, I probably will be doing though is as we're coming up on our rookie draft in our league, if I've got people in my league that are really hyped up on the rookies and they're like, Hey, I'm trying to get up into the first round. See if they're willing to pay a premium, they might be like, yeah, I'll give you fucking my first round or plus next year's first round or whatever. A lot of times

Speaker: 28:30

you do like a good trade back. You do like a good trade back. I do. And. You wanted to look at some of the, like a hypothetical team and see what we could do there. Yeah. Yeah. Shoot, shoot some ideas at me and we'll, we'll, we'll see. All right. So the first team that I have for you, I'm going to call out the starters and then you know, you can see where their improvements are. They were a number one team in the league. So their team. This consisted of Matt Stafford, Josh Allen, Derrick Henry, Isaiah Pacheco, Tony Pollard, Tyreek Hill Dee Robinson, Stefan Diggs, Tyler Lockett, Dallas Gooder, Jake Ferguson, OBJ, and Gua Edwards. Tyra Taylor, Justin Tucker and Cleveland defense. And that is catch me if you can. So if you like, you know, they need a couple of noticeable bench players. They've got Josh Jacobs, Jamar chase. Okay. So, you know, not a, not a bad squad. As far as draft picks, they've got, you know, the seventh pick in the round. So what, what, where, where do you think their improvements could be made? If you're looking at their, just their starting squad, they've got pre stacked team pre stacked team. It's probably going to be a lot of binge work coming out of this, this This team. What do you think?

Speaker 2: 30:02

I think it's a pretty, pretty solid team on paper. One thing that jumps out at me though, is so many of these players are sort of hitting that age where they could fall off at any moment, I would try to get a better balance if I, if I'm this owner, I'm trying to get a better balance of younger players mixed in. With this, you know, Matthew Stafford literally was already talked about retirement. Derrick Henry could fall off any moment. Tyreek Hill also already hinted at retirement. Stefan Diggs literally looked a step slow the last half of last year. Tyler Lockett, I mean, I mean, Tony

Speaker: 30:42

Pollard is all going behind Titans,

Speaker 2: 30:45

all of these guys, you're not gonna be shocked if they hit that age cliff where they start to fall off. He's got Jamar Chase. I think that's a good solid core piece that you could build around for the future. But you know, aside from him and Josh Allen, I guess I'd throw Isaiah Pacheco into that too. But aside from those three guys, I would literally have all these guys up for You know, on the trade block, if you will, like they'd be, they'd all be on the table. If I could get some decent value for any of these guys, I'd move off of a one that really stands out as Tyreek Hill. I mean, this, you're probably entering a window where this is probably the last off season where you can actually get maximum value out of Tyreek Hill. He's a stud. He scored a jillion points last year. You could probably find someone who's willing to trade you. A really nice younger player for him. I would, I would cash out on him now because I'm willing to bet next off season, people are going to start looking at him, even if he has another good season, which we don't know, he could take a step back today, but even if he has another great season, people are going to look at that age and be like,

Speaker 4: 32:03

nah,

Speaker 2: 32:04

I don't want someone about fixing to retire. I mean, he he's already said he wants to play two more seasons and then retire. Who knows if he sticks to that, but. The point is he's someone you could get a lot for. I'm willing to bet you, you kind of see in that too.

Speaker: 32:20

Well, his off season problems, you know, so who knows if he's ever gonna, if he might fall off cause he's not gonna be able to play or whatever. I mean, yeah, you can try to get a lot of value out of him, but also I, I think looking at the bench, they, they might. You know, I don't know. I mean, I think that, I think they need, they could improve wide receiver. That, that would be my main focus of this, this squad improving wide receiver through the trade and then improving quarterback through the draft.

Speaker 2: 32:57

Yeah, I, I honestly, I would try to widen out that receiver core with Tyreek Hill in particular, probably try to just hold on to Jamar Chase. But I would, I would see if I could get like a two for one for Tyreek be like, okay, can you give me like a tier two wide receiver plus another tier two or side receiver or even a tier two plus a tier three and get some Good solid wide receivers younger That you can bank on and get more depth and do try to do a two for one or three for two, even if you say like, look, I'll give you time to kill plus Stefan digs plus three of these younger players who have a shot at being that sort of player themselves. You know, first round picks if someone doesn't quite value them that highly, maybe you could get up a good wide receiver plus a pick in this year's draft. This is a great draft to be in on wide receiver draft picks. I mean, there's, there's a lot that could be done with this 1 1 player that I think is being overvalued. By most people versus what, where I think he's going to go is Derrick Henry. I think people are expecting him to just really smash in this offense, but I don't trust how much wear and tear his body has and how old he is now. Plus they blew up that whole entire offensive. I think he's much riskier than people realize. That's someone I might try to trade away. I wonder what's your feelings on Derrick Henry this season?

Speaker 3: 34:31

Where's he at again? Remind me. He's in Baltimore. He's playing with the Ravens, which is, well, I

Speaker: 34:39

think, so with his wins for the Ravens, I don't think he's going to need to be the main feature back. And so I think he'll be able to, to not be injured, but I also think we could see his fantasy numbers. Still come back down to a little bit above average, maybe because remember if you two years ago, he was just like an animal, like just putting up massive numbers every single game. And then even last year he was for a little bit and then he got injured and then the offensive line fell apart and it was just, Tennessee was just trash. And so I think. And for an old guy, this is good because Lamar Jackson will be running a little bit. And then do they still, they still have Gus Edwards went somewhere else, right?

Speaker 2: 35:38

Yeah. Gus Edwards is with the Chargers. They, they've got Keaton Mitchell eventually coming back, which was like a kind of a home run hitter, really fast guy, and they've got Justice Hill, Justice Hill, I think is going to be like the, the, the second running back in the pecking order there.

Speaker: 35:57

Right. Yeah. So, but yeah, I agree. I agree. So maybe, maybe. It seems like a pretty good team on paper, but maybe they've got some moves, some actual more moves to make.

Speaker 2: 36:09

Yeah. Real quickly, I just want to say one thing I do like about what he has done so far is that he had a really good team last year. He was competitive without trading any future picks. So the fact that he has all his 2024 picks is pretty nice. So he's, he's still got a lot of resources to work with.

Speaker: 36:32

Yeah. So next team I want to talk about they got featuring quarterbacks, Justin Herbert, Dak Prescott Ramon J. Stevenson, Anthony Madison Ezekiel Elliott. George Pickens, Jalen Waddle, Mike Evans, Debo Samuel, Travis Kelsey, David Njoku, Michael Pittman, Curtis Samuel, Evan McPherson, Buffalo Defense. Some notable players on the bench are Darius Slayton, Sky Moore.

Speaker 2: 37:10

We're really trying to find some notable players

Speaker 3: 37:12

here.

Speaker: 37:14

Yeah, at least that I think. I mean, personally, I'm calling it out and it's running back is desperate need. And this is not a draft to do that in, like you said earlier. So with draft picks, they have the very first pick. So this is the first pick worst team in the league last year.

Speaker 2: 37:35

Yeah. I, I, I think they, they absolutely earned that first pick. And this is one where I think it's. I think it's kind of a rare situation where I would go into a season, not trying to compete right off of the rip. And to be honest with you, this is one where I would do that. I literally would, I would be like This is the Denver

Speaker: 37:59

Broncos of

Speaker 2: 38:00

the dynasty. I literally would be in rebuild. With this team and, you know, I know it's unfortunate to do that. And the owner of this team probably doesn't even necessarily agree with that. I'm not sure, but, you know, like these older players who might have some value, I mean, you kind of got lucky. With the way Chips fell for Ezekiel Elliot, he might actually be the starter week one for the Cowboys. Ramanjre Stephenson. Yeah, but their offensive line

Speaker: 38:33

is Terrible. Oh, I know. Like it's not as good. As it was when he was putting up a thousand yards,

Speaker 2: 38:42

I'm not saying I'm necessarily targeting Ezekiel. I'm just looking at some pieces. You might be able to get something for,

Speaker: 38:48

you know what I mean? He's going to have to, he's going to have to trade out, trade off some of these wide receivers. Exactly. Exactly. One of those three

Speaker 2: 38:58

are

Speaker: 38:58

coming.

Speaker 2: 39:00

That's exactly what I was going to say. I said the one sort of place where I think you're looking pretty good is with these. Wide receivers. I would definitely start with the older, like guys that are still producing on your team. And, you know, for the running back position that includes remodeling, Stevenson and Ezekiel Elliott. just because of the position they play, they're not going to be producers for that many more seasons. But definitely Mike Evans, definitely Travis Kelsey. I would be shopping Travis Kelsey to everyone. I would absolutely spamming. I'm like, please let me find someone who will give me something of value for Kelsey. Because I mean, he is still kind of projected to be one of the top tight ends next season, but he is so old. I do not. Want him dying on my roster when I don't even have a competitive roster, you know what I mean? Like get whatever you can for him now is would be my

Speaker: 39:58

roasting Roast. No,

Speaker 2: 40:00

no, I don't I don't mean to to roast. I'm just saying that the truth is This team is both not competitive and has some old pieces that are risky just based on, I mean, Mike Evans had a great season last year. I'd be trying to trade him. If, if someone likes Devo, I'm trade Devo. I

Speaker: 40:19

like Devo.

Speaker 2: 40:20

I'll, I'll, I'll trade for Devo. I, Hey, you should send him an offer. See if, see if there's, see if there's like a two for one, he'll accept for, you know, a couple of young players. I mean, he actually did do a deal with me earlier this off season to give him credit. The this very owner he traded me Javante Williams, who he thinks is just a bum. And to be fair, the Broncos did draft two different running backs, including Adrik Estime. So maybe they also think he's a bum, but he was like, I want a couple of younger. Receiver prospects. So I, I traded him John Dotson, who's still just 23 years old. And Oh, who was the other one? Johan Dotson and Michael Wilson. Was that who it was? Yeah. Michael Wilson with the Cardinals. Who's I think is still 22 right now or whatever. And you know, we don't, we don't know yet what these players are going to turn into, but I think he's got the right idea where he's like, look, I want to get younger. And I need to kind of start taking some risks. Hey, he said to me straight up. He was like, I want to start taking some risks because I, I can't just roll with things as they are, which at least he recognizes like things didn't go well, he can't expect things to be a lot different with the same exact dudes. But if I'm him, I'm, I'm trying to do some two for ones. If I'm him, I'm trying to say, Hey, look, Mike Evans. Can I get two younger prospects for him too? Can I get a two for one for Travis Kelsey? I mean, you could probably get, you know, some interesting guys, maybe a couple of draft picks. Maybe you can get, pick up Ben Sennett, Fryer Muth. Someone, someone younger that you could try to turn that into plus a pick or whatever it is that, that's what I'd be doing. But that team is go, go full rebuild.

Speaker: 42:13

All right. So we've got two more teams left. Next team up. I want to look at quarterbacks of Patrick Mahomes, Baker Mayfield running backs, David Montgomery, Najee Harris, Christian McCaffrey, live receivers, Rasheed Rice Amron St. Brown, Tank Dell, Zay Flowers, tight ends, Michael Mayer first name of leaving me, Otten, Oten, Cole, Cole, Otten, is that Cole? It's Cade. Kate, Kate flexing it up with Alvin Camara, Aaron Jones, Breeze Hall, and then the the wife beater Harrison Bucker at San Francisco's defense noticeable notable players on the bench. Derek Carr, Desmond Ritter, Will Levis, Elijah Mitchell, Keenan Allen's old ass, Terry McLaurin, Josh. Josh Reynolds, Terry McMoran, Rashid Shahid, fastest man, fastest man on the Saints team, and then his He doesn't have a pick until, this person doesn't have a pick until the second round, sixth pick, fifth pick, fifth pick.

Speaker 2: 43:35

Yeah. Yeah. Pretty good looking team. This is definitely a contender. This is the sort of team where I'm trying to shore up any holes I've got because I'm wanting to go all in. This is I particularly like, I particularly like his running bags. To have CMC and Brees Hall as your starters and then have guys like David Montgomery, Najee Harris and Aaron Jones who are all still projected to be, you know, regular fantasy producers. Have those guys be flex slash bench backup spots. Pretty good. The, the places where I think that he's got some holes to fill in would be his tight ends. And then his second starting quarterback, we play in a super flex. So really you'd like to have three starting quarterbacks each week. Ideally, but for, for, for his options to be Baker Mayfield and Derek Carr, these are guys that you can count on them to be starters, which is nice. That always does have value on a super flex. But they don't have a lot of upside. I would, you know, if I'm like him and I'm trying to compete this year, which I do think he should I'm trying to, to figure out a trade where I could try to trade maybe some of my backup, maybe some of my running back debt and, and try to try to get me a good quarterback or at least like one of these sort of running, running quarterbacks with more upside.

Speaker: 45:13

So let me ask you this question. So if, if I'm someone who wants to trade this person or, or I'm the other person, right. And I'm looking at my team and I'm like, man, I really like this team. Like, cause this is a pretty solid team. Yeah. I think how, what, who is that person on the starting roster? That may be you try to leverage into like getting that depth because you don't really want to lose a lot of these players. So you don't want to, you don't want to do too much,

Speaker 2: 45:49

right? I, I agree with that, but I think it's more important if you're contending, I think it's more important to shore up those. Starting positions than it is to make sure that you've got good depth. So like, I think he's got really good depth in the running back position. So for me, if I'm him, I'm trying to see if I can't package, like. David Montgomery and Aaron Jones and see if I can't see if I can't do like, Hey, you like Aaron Jones? How about you need another starting level quarterback? How about I give you Derek Carr, Aaron Jones, Plus a pick or even just Derek Carr and Aaron Jones for an upgrade at that quarterback position or for a decent tight end. You know, I think his tight ends, right. Unfortunately for mayors, they just drafted Brock Bowers. So all of a sudden he's looking at a lot less attractive. Kate Otten is, you know, he, he gets targets from here and there, but he's a very nah athlete. He's not the sort of dude who's going to put up huge production. I would definitely try to package some things. And he's already traded away his first round pick, but he, he does have two seconds, which some people are just going to, they're going to like. You know, they're going to have a decent value on those seconds, especially as we approach the rookie draft itself. People get more excited about making those picks. They basically have more value attached to them. I would try to package some things and plug in those starting holes. Even if you got a tear off, like even if you got to say like, all right. I really like him as a prospect, but maybe I could get two older players that I know will produce. I mean, a lot of times people and Hey, look, I'm guilty of this. Like, a lot of times people will give you good players who are older and they'll, they'll basically give it to you at a discount because you're giving them the younger player. Like, I don't have any older players left on my team, but if I had like a Mike Evans, Calvin Ridley, something like that, I would trade Mike Evans or Calvin Ridley plus something else, maybe a pig or something else that he might find useful for Zay flowers. And if I'm him, someone who really wants to compete this year, and I think he's got the team to do it. I would, I would absolutely do that. A guy like Alvin Kamara is. Going to be seen as very valuable to a lot of people. I would see, maybe I could trade Alvin Kamara straight up for a better quarterback. You know?

Speaker: 48:24

Yeah. I mean, personally, I'm thinking he could potentially package a Derek Carr and an Alvin Kamara for, to a team who is maybe hurting that running back, but, but has a couple of quarterbacks. And maybe also use this, this quarterback as the third quarterback, but buffers out because he's throwing or handing off the Alvin Kamara. So

Speaker 2: 48:50

yeah,

Speaker: 48:50

you know, potential to get those touchdown points. And then also on the running back, you, you pretty much got that team covered.

Speaker 2: 48:58

Yeah, if I'm him, I'm, I'm trying to go look at teams in my league that might just need that extra QB. They, they, maybe they've got two of their starters in place, but they could really use some a third or fourth QB on their roster to make sure they get those super flex points. I would, I would say, Hey, what do you think about Derek Carr? Or even are you in on Will Levis? What do you think about him? I'm, I'm willing to trade him and, you know, If, if I'm not already at three or four QBs on my team, then those players actually have value to me. And I'm like, okay, I'm willing to give something up.

Speaker: 49:35

All right. And then just the last team real quick. Cute QBs are Jalen hurts the Mar Jackson running backs. Kenneth Walker, Joe Mixon, Jonathan Taylor, wide receivers, Jerry Judy, Antonio Brown, DK Metcalf, CD lamb, tight ends. Darren Waller, George Kittle, flex Jordan Addison, Jacoby Myers Gino Smith, Tyler Vassar kicker, Seattle defense. Notable bench players, AJ Dillon, Kareem Hunt. Damian Pierce, Aaron Rodgers, Mark Andrews, yeah,

Speaker 2: 50:14

Mark Andrews, for sure, I think he's going to

Speaker: 50:18

first pick that they have is in the third round. Third pick.

Speaker 2: 50:23

Yeah.

Speaker: 50:24

No picks.

Speaker 2: 50:25

So this is a guy that I did a couple different, basically blockbuster trades with last year. And I'm the one that has most of his picks which is amazing.

Speaker: 50:35

Which he has two of my picks.

Speaker 2: 50:38

Yeah which is amazing. I, I think it's great that I have his picks. But look, this is another, this is another team where I'm still in for this year, I'm still contending, I'm not trying to move off of any production or any fantasy points this year. He definitely tried to go all in last year. He almost got there close, close playoff game. He ended up losing, but You know, he, there's no reason to think that his most important players are going to be falling off this year. He's got Jalen hurts and Lamar Jackson. That's probably the best. Like QB duo in our league right now that, I mean, these guys are, you know, they're studs. He's got Jonathan Taylor. Who's going to be a stud. AJ Brown CD lamb going to be studs. You know, there's, there's a decent shot that I like

Speaker: 51:27

this team.

Speaker 2: 51:28

Yeah. There's a decent shot that Mark Andrews will be a stud for him too. I just think I just think that he, he should be in one thing I would do is, is I would try to find some better sort of wide receiver depth pieces, I think after. You know, A. J. Brown, D. K. Metcalf, C. D. Lamb, I think it kind of falls off pretty hard as far as expected actual fantasy production goes. I think that, you know, Jordan Addison is an interesting young player for future seasons, but I think this coming season he's going to be on a team that might actually just go run first a lot. It's got You know a rookie quarterback and he's going to be like the third or fourth option and targets on that team. So it's, it's like that might actually be someone I might be. Shopping like I might say, hey, look, I'm willing to trade a nice young prospect for someone who could give me more guaranteed fantasy production this year. I'm looking at whoever he likes, but guys I'd be looking at would be like Deontay Johnson, Calvin Ridley. Pretty much guys. We already have talked about, but this is a, this is a pretty good team that's in a pretty good spot. I, I don't love how you've already given up your first round pick for the next three seasons. It kind of means you're just all in right now, but I

Speaker: 52:54

didn't look that far into it.

Speaker 2: 52:55

Yeah. I mean, he's, he's, he's paid for this team. He's got a good team, but he's paid for it. You know what I mean?

Speaker: 53:01

Oh, pay to play. Yeah. I mean, not only the first, first pick. First round, but the second, the third, I mean, in 2020, you could always trade for some of those back.

Speaker 2: 53:16

Yeah, that's what I was going to say. I said in 2025, I basically have his entire. Draft. I have his entire 20 to 25 draft, but that doesn't mean that come the 2025 rookie draft, he's not going to have any, you know, like he'll, he'll probably make some moves to get, give himself some, some shots at, at, you know,

Speaker: 53:36

lottery tickets, air Rogers breaks his Achilles again, and he has the Benjamin again.

Speaker 2: 53:42

Yeah. But this is the sort of team where definitely I want to be. I want to be all in. I would shop some of the actually younger players, which sounds odd because I never talk like that. But being what his team is, I'd see like, Hey, is there anyone willing to give me A lot of value for Jordan Addison. Is there a lot of someone who really loves Tajay Spears? He's going to be stuck in a committee this year. Come future years, he might be something serious though. There's a lot of people that like him. Maybe he can get something good for him. I, again, I'm just trying to fill in as much production as I can right now. He doesn't have glaring holes though. I think he he's rolling in with a pretty good team. Absolutely. Is there anything that you kind of saw? Yeah. That I missed there.

Speaker: 54:34

No, man. I think you hit, I think you hit him down on the coffin. I mean, yeah, continue to just try to build on that team that you paid for. And, you know, keep, hopefully injuries at a minimum. But I mean, it's a pretty stacked team. So yeah, that was our dive into Dynasty. If you guys ever have any questions about your team. Feel free to send it to us on threads or Instagram or Facebook. Pine Pony podcasts.

Speaker 2: 55:08

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Speaker: 55:14

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