Part 2: The Bravery to Dream Limitlessly: A Chat with Dr. Esther Zeldon

This is the second part of a two-part episode with Dr. Esther Zeladon. Esther shares her journey of overcoming challenges to create a limitless life aligned with her purpose. Originally working as a government diplomat, Esther felt unfulfilled and knew she was meant for more. She boldly decided to leave her stable career and pursue entrepreneurship, even though she had no experience in business or social media. The first year was incredibly difficult as she faced a steep learning curve, but she persevered by focusing on small, achievable goals and celebrating each milestone.

Esther discusses the importance of setting realistic timelines and giving oneself grace throughout the entrepreneurial process. She emphasizes breaking big visions into smaller, yearly goals and steps to make them feel attainable. Esther also stresses prioritizing non-negotiable time for personal growth, family, and legacy each day. By scheduling these priorities and filtering opportunities based on her long-term vision, you can stay aligned with your purpose amid a busy lifestyle. She now inspires thousands as a bestselling author, speaker, and coach through her authentic story of defining social barriers to create a limitless life.

ABOUT DR ESTHER ZELEDON  

Dr. Esther Zeledón is a coach for high achievers and founder of @be.act.change, with over 20 years of experience working with thousands of individuals, teams, and communities. Dr. Zeledón is known as the "time guru" and "mindset master" for her expertise in unlocking her clients' full potential, defining clear next steps, and creating growth mindsets that align with their purpose. As an immigrant woman, she has a unique understanding of the challenges faced by high achievers who have had to overcome systemic social, cultural, and economic barriers. Dr. Zeledón's work focuses on helping individuals, organizations, and communities discover and live their purpose, navigate obstacles, and thrive with purpose. She has presented at hundreds of events worldwide, inspiring and engaging professionals, leaders, and changemakers to find fulfillment through purpose. Dr. Zeledón offers expertise on discovering purpose and developing a positive mindset for personal and business growth.  

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Kristina: 0:00

Hey everyone, it's Christina with the she's brave podcast. Welcome Welcome to part two of my amazing interview with Dr. Esther celadon. She is the author of a best selling book called Creating your limitless life. If you haven't listened to part one yet, you guys you need to go back and listen to part one because you do not want to miss this episode. Esther is Ella Don is frickin amazing. She's all about how to define social barriers and build a limitless, life aligned and joyful. I know that's easier said than done, guys, but that's why we've got her on the podcast today. Here we go. You guys get ready for part two. Welcome. Welcome back Dr. Esther celadon.

Esther: 0:51

So we overestimate we can do in one but under estimate we can do in five years. Okay. Five years is not long, right? But we create these crazy plans for us. Oh, and one year I'm going to change my entire life and do all these things. And the thing is, you can make a lot of progress in one maybe you can in one, but we always overpack it and then when we overpack it, and then we don't make the milestones we give up. Wow, the thing is, I tell her pick three big things you want to move, right you know, your purpose, whatever that is the alignment. And I have a workbook for folks that people could download, right? Once you that part. Okay, pick three big things that you can move in a year. And if you happen to do more fantastic, right, but let's be realistic, pick three big rocks, then if you move them, then you can your brain starts coding positivity, right? Your look, I'm making these milestones I'm making these changes, right? And they're not checkmarks, right? These are things moving you that you're working on your purpose, right, that you're becoming more aligned, that you're leaving out your legacy, right? It's not a destination, it's a movement, right? Your, your new way of thinking about it your new limitless life direction. And then after one year, and then in two in three, I went from being a government figure diplomat, one year, and by two years, I was already no as an entrepreneur, right? In one I started it was the conversations were changing and things like that. But by two, I was sent, right? And that's the important thing to think about. It's not that long, and map it out and make it realistic to you, right? If you have small kids, plus a job is 12 hour plus this right? It's not gonna happen in a year, it's gonna happen in two. But guess what, you're gonna really feel better. And we're talking about just by taking those little steps by moving it. You're already feeling amazing, because you're like, Look at this. I'm moving. So another thing I recommend folks is a celebration calendar. I have one because once cool, I like those ones that you get in the mail. They're just free. My mark every day. One thing I did, that was about my

Kristina: 3:05

purpose. Oh my gosh, I love it.

Esther: 3:09

And my 2023 when everyday is feels like something great to celebrate, because we're always waiting. I'm gonna celebrate once my life is limitless. No, you got to happen. Happiness is on the way to fulfillment, right?

Kristina: 3:22

Yeah, we Yeah, I see you gotta celebrate those achievements. I've been learning that too. I just wanted to share. I just finished my first year of podcasting. And, you know, number one, it's kind of like therapy on steroids, because all your weaknesses are in your face. And, and it was really, really hard like it was in some ways, I think it was the hardest thing I've ever done. And yet, it was also some of the most joyful times of my life. I mean, was it like that for you was that first year really hard? And so you mentioned the calendar. I think that's a super I don't do that. I do kind of if I achieved something, sometimes I'll celebrate it in a whatever way. I feel like celebrating it. But I love the actual writing it down every day. Because Would you agree with me that the first year of being an entrepreneur is the hardest? Oh,

Esther: 4:15

absolutely. Yeah. So hard. Well, for me, it's like I knew my purpose, but I knew nothing. I couldn't use social media before. Yeah, I knew nothing about social media is all these things that Okay, great. I made a decision, but I didn't know any entrepreneurs. I didn't know social media. I didn't know how to do videos post. You

Kristina: 4:34

sound just like me. Somebody. What is that? Okay, you're gonna be in the top 2% In one year, I would have said no, no, no. And I couldn't look that far ahead. I had to just do the next step in front of me. And then the next one after that. It had to be that for me, luckily,

Esther: 4:48

but you were living with your purpose and throw it out there statistically. Right. So

Kristina: 4:52

yeah, it's 100% 100%.

Esther: 4:56

So same thing. So I was like, it's so hard and I was writing my book because I was like, Well, you know what, I'm going to start my book now. Because I knew it's gonna take 18 months at least. So I was like, I'm gonna start my book while I'm doing entrepreneurship, right. And my book was that kind of their podcast journey, like all my vulnerabilities were in my face. And I didn't want to share my story at first, because I know and I wanted

Kristina: 5:19

to acknowledge that Dr. celadon, I just, I appreciate you. So, so much for sharing your journey. Because I think people being in the depths of despair, or even just being really depressed or really anxious, nuclear have to just be talking about it's gotta be okay. And someone like you is the perfect person, because you went from that to where this amazing, incredible life that you've that you've had and continue to have. And that gives people hope, if they're in that really bottom place, I hit bottom. Life sucks. And then they hear about someone like you, and then they're like, Oh, if she can do it, then I can do it too.

Esther: 6:07

Exactly. And that's what I tell folks. Look, I started with zero with technology, right? And I told myself, and it's still messy. I'm still learning. Right? And that's the leanest, yeah, P we're still learning. And that's what I give myself grace. And there's always a voice that's like, oh, man, I could have done that better. But you know what, I'm still learning. So I do

Kristina: 6:25

I go man, I could have done that thing better.

Esther: 6:30

And then the character I write, I learned this, I did that. And part of the learning is a celebration. So even in my book, I decided because when I had finished my PhD before, I didn't celebrate the steps. I just wait for that moment. And I remember having a certificate in my hand. And it was waiting for lightning celebration, something just magical moment. And I felt horrible. Because I'm like, This is it. I had put all expectations to that moment. And then I realized I didn't take the time to enjoy the process. Wow. And my book, I decided I'm not doing that. I'm going to celebrate everything I celebrated coming up with the chapter name with choosing the font, and I helped it with my audience. I was like, what kind of fonts what kind of paper and coming up with the cover and the name and I just I started celebrating every step of the book, and the book was enjoyable. So even when it was done, that wasn't the celebration, because I had enjoyed those total journey. I agree

Kristina: 7:27

with you 100%. And I think that's actually one of the keys to success. And whatever you're trying to do is I think if you're not enjoying it, everything is so much harder. So sometimes you got you have to step back and just be like, okay, whatever I need to do to actually enjoy doing this I'm going to do, and I love what you've also said about timelines, and podcasting. I see this all the time, like I tried my first podcasting class in the fall, which I never thought I would do. But I was like, the stuff that I learned in my first six months was not taught in any podcast course, I've taken three of them. And they'd never taught me the stuff that I kind of just learned by throwing spaghetti at the wall. Literally, I was like, I want the rest of the world to be able to do

Esther: 8:09

this, you start enjoying it right? And so So yeah, yeah, yeah. So

Kristina: 8:14

what what I've seen with my students is that now I'm remembering with my students as they want to get to this destination of some this amount of downloads, or this top X percent of podcasts, and they're in a big rush to get there. And they're in a hurry. And I think then they say, Well, you did it in six months, or whatever. And I'm like, Yeah, but you've got four kids at home, give yourself the grace, I promise, if you do all the steps, you don't have to do them within the six months, if those steps take you longer, but you do the steps. If it takes you a year to do those steps, you will still end up where I'm at. But give yourself that grace, because we're all different. We all have different things going on in our lives in the background that other people may not even know you know.

Esther: 9:01

Exactly, exactly. And then you have to enjoy it too. And yeah, it's where it sits on your priority list. But then you know, and what expense, right? And that's what I see purpose is like purpose defines your priorities, right. And so if you also have other things that are prioritizing, and part of your purpose, it's going to be a longer timeline, or it could be shorter for folks. Right? And it's all about questioning, like, what's that metric going to give you? Right? It's also if you get that metric too soon. Are you ready for what do you bring? Right? So for me, people also told me Well, I wrote my book in six weeks or six months. But I'm like, but for me, I need to go through the journey of writing out my story, which I was hesitant to do heal from it. Because when the bulk of this when the book comes out, I gotta talk about it. So if I rush it, and my family's gonna read it, and you saw there's a lot of parts they didn't know about, right? I knew Need to be mentally ready for that point. And 18 months was when I was ready and ready to also put in the work of the marketing and the book tour, I needed that time to go into the growth. And that's why whatever growth you need to go for that project is different, right? You might have stuff that you haven't dealt with, or haven't this right, and you said vulnerabilities are being thrown in your face. If there's something you haven't worked out, you need to work that out. Because the next phase is going to bring the next thing and that's why I'm there's no one roadmap for folks, right? There's the How To which I love that you're giving folks on the podcast, right? It's the same with the book, there's a how to write there's a certain formula. But the timeline depends on all these factors on your life and what you're going through and what you need to deal with, right to get to that next phase. And it doesn't matter when that happens. Because all of that is tied to your greatness. So that's one of the things I tell people. That's why the comparison game, there is no comparison game right there is I have to I have to

Kristina: 11:03

really teach my students about that too. And the first two to three months, maybe longer of me, podcasting, I literally had to not be on social media, because it would just, I was insecure, right. And it's okay to be insecure, too. So if you're insecure, stop comparing yourself to other people don't even like they're not even in your line of vision, really, and just know that you're unique. And then I got to a place where I knew that my voice was unique, and that it needed to be heard. And it was so different than what anybody else was doing that there. There was nothing to compare. And so then I could truly take people's hands and celebrate with them and have zero, whatever jealousy or comparison or anything. And then I even took it one step further saying we need more women podcasters. So I need to be teaching people this stuff. So I guess I have come a long ways.

Esther: 12:03

Absolutely. Yeah. And it's so liberating the piece of what everybody else is going through. I mean, like just the fact that they're there in your class is worth celebrating, right? They're taking that step. Yeah, like celebrate that step. You know, there's no rush. And I don't know, I see that with everything. Right. And what matters is that you're living and you're showing up how you want. Yeah. And at the pace that works for you.

Kristina: 12:25

Yeah, that's so beautifully said. So I have one other question. Because I keep learning so much from you. How do we as mothers and entrepreneurs, and I use the term entrepreneurs really loosely because I just feel like, what I've come to realize in the last year or two is that we're entrepreneurs, and even ways that we're not paid, you know, and just living our life. We're basically the CEO of our life. Right? So the question is, how do we as mothers and entrepreneurs or working executives find balance in the whirlwind of life? Because that's what everybody is struggling with? Oh,

Esther: 13:03

yeah. Yeah. Actually, I just got featured an article on the subject, women entrepreneurs, and first I want to say I agree with you completely. That term is more than just people having businesses because yes, because society defines it that way. I remember having I don't, I don't

Kristina: 13:20

like that, because that's what I really realized over this last year is we're all entrepreneurs. Yeah, I don't care I don't you could be the CEO of your household while raising your kids and like that, that's frickin being the CEO of a company. I'm sorry, but it is to me it is.

Esther: 13:37

And you're creating and I remember feeling when I was in my last job, right? It's not I wasn't an entrepreneur, right as a public job. But I was thinking to myself when I was like, I am like people would be like, you're on your entrepreneur and those things when I ask people Mmm hmm, I am and the thing is, was I did that exercise I've been entrepreneur my whole life, even as a kid and lately and it's owning that word. Yes, you can be an intrapreneur entrepreneur and in creating your limitless life you kind of become that I even argued to everyone there I make this argument a book about we all need to have a personal brand it's not just for businesses right? I love it. Yeah. What is unique how that you bring outside of the title right? It's what is your unique Why are you doing this? How are you doing this? And what are the values tied to that? That is your own personal brand and whatever you are as Yeah, I

Kristina: 14:28

love that part of the book too. I mean, I like the whole book. It's just and I cannot remember to bring up everything in this

Esther: 14:37

Yeah, but it said we all have a personal brand. Right? And so what is that that you're bringing out there to the world and we're so even people in jobs in your CV resume, what is your personal brand? What is what makes you different? Not the testing you're doing? But what is your unique thing that you should showcase because it's tied to that I do believe everyone is creating. So you are bringing something you are your own brand, right? But in the balance question it's for me, it's I have this thing called I talk about work life integration, whatever that is right. And you could be a stay at home mom and your work. Is that right? How are you balancing that with your other interests? Right, because even raising a family could

Kristina: 15:16

totally agree. And I just interviewed somebody where they were talking about when you're a mother, the boundaries get all blurred. Same as yourself. It's really easy to lose yourself. Yeah, exactly. And

Esther: 15:29

so for me, it's that I argue that you need to intentionality. Right? And so that's what I say about I can organize your calendar, unless I know what your purpose in what drives you is, Oh, yeah. Because what is going to be the priorities that are on your calendar, and it's going to happen regardless, right, that one hour a day, that you're moving your legacy and your purpose is a non negotiable. Now, so I have a color coding thing. But reds are non negotiable, yellows are a priority, pebbles, whatever. But the blue logistics stuff can move. So those two things have to happen. But I also put priority for me priorities, also time with my family time with my spouse, right? And it doesn't have to be every day. But it's like, Hey, we're gonna play board games once a week, it goes into the calendar, and that's red, non negotiable. It's non negotiable. And that's beautiful, though the one night away, I have my husband once a month non negotiable, right? And then ball. Yeah, those intentionally go in there, your priorities have to go in there. And that is the balance integration piece. What it means is, yes, logistics will always be there, the oil has to get changed. They mean, the house has to get organized. All those things. Sure. They're all there. But that's sand. You don't I mean, that's just sand, it's always going to be there. So what are the priority things that if you're like, I, for example, if I don't spend time with my kids, I'm gonna see two years go by and be well, I never played a game with them. I can't live that way. So I need to make sure it doesn't matter that everything else in the house is dirty. That's priorities, the game

Kristina: 17:04

I have to put in here for just a second because my dad worked full time, obviously, you know, but one of my favorite memories was once a week, he would play board games with me and my brother. And my brother, and I loved it. So fast forward to me being 35 or something. Or maybe I maybe it was when my son son was little and I was playing board games with him. I was like, Dad, did you actually like playing board games? And he's like, Oh, no, I don't like it at all. But you guys loved it. So I did it. It was sad. Sorry. I mean, yeah,

Esther: 17:43

it's true. And, like, for us, the board games, the real purpose things and I will get their values for them. That's important to them. And so make time for the board games, right? It's something that we can all do. But it's being intentional, right? So the balance question is, life is always going to have tons of sand, right? But you got to make sure the priorities are there. Because it's when you're not doing the priorities is when you feel that your life is falling apart. Wow. Yeah. And you got again, when you're not doing priorities when you feel your life is falling apart.

Kristina: 18:17

Yeah. So when prioritizing things in your life, that's when you start feeling like things are falling apart. Yeah,

Esther: 18:24

yeah, exactly. And then we start doing just sand stuff, just logistics, because we can't in our mind, which one is important, and then that's when you get the, oh, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy. But you don't I mean, and then realizing some things are gonna give because when you prioritize, then you're like, oh, that's going to be later. And that's what's really important to like, think about your year as a map. Like, I can give you my case right now. My apartment or in our relief is a disaster. Right? Okay, but it's intentionally a disaster. Because the first three months of the year for me is when I'm coaching consulting, my book tour just finished and I just, you know, all this stuff. I knew that if I have a family board game, the weekend thing and I also have my own things I'm working on everyday, right? Those are non negotiables when I put it in the calendar, there was no space for organizing the apartment. Oh, you're making me feel

Kristina: 19:17

so much better because I'm getting ready to launch my second podcasting class in two weeks and my house is a mess right now. And I have been feeling a little bit guilty about it. Right

Esther: 19:29

But see, I don't feel guilty about it because it's in my calendar for April. Okay, I love that. I know it's gonna get organized in April right and that's really one of the techniques about balancing is okay what are the things that give you stress that you need to address I clean my apartment but when can I do that without car even sometimes

Kristina: 19:51

a certain pocket a certain place for me I have my clothes for me. I get stressed if all of that's jumbled, literally like Last week, I carved out an hour to reorganize my closet because I realized it was making me feel stressed as the rest of my house is still messy.

Esther: 20:09

You can also reward yourself with those things, right? Like, I tell people, like for example, if you love organizing, right, then work on your purpose, your priorities in the morning and give yourself the reward that you're going to organize it in the day, if you get those things done, right. There's so many ways of doing it. Like what is high stress, right? And what's going to stress you out. So for me, if I'm not doing my three priorities, that's more stressful than having a super disorganized place. But I don't want it to go past April. So in April, now, one of the other parties will go down and love farming goes up and love it, you create this dance between, yeah, work and life. So that at the end of the year, what matters is the end of the year or the end of five years, right? Because spreading that out, okay, at the end of the year, I will have the same with working out I do 30 minutes a day. What I love to do more, yes, but 30 minutes is what I realistically can do every day. And guess what it adds to strength, then in April, I'll move it to an hour. But it's when other things go down in intensity. And then things go up and down and intensity, your life. And you got to put some buffer in that. But that's the advice I give to folks, right. Don't try to be like, I need to do everything this month, look at the whole year and divide it up in realistic foot. I always tell people buffer, I have that in the workbook, put buffers, if you'd get it done beforehand. Fantastic. But you got to give yourself buffer for when the kid gets sick, you get sick, or the car breaks down. If you don't have those buffers that life brings you then that's when you're you get into the oh my god, it didn't happen. I'm such a failure spiral buffers to deadlines,

Kristina: 21:52

because, yeah, yeah, because those those unexpected life events are always going to happen no matter what. So if you don't have the buffer, so that's such an important point, I also want to just swing around back again, just how impactful it was for me to hear you think you're gonna get more done in the first year than you thought. But then I also love this concept of thinking five years ahead and being like, but in five years, I will have accomplished more than I could even imagine. It's such a cool concept to just pop in your mind sometimes.

Esther: 22:27

And it also makes people be specific as to why they're doing it. So I make people visualize the five to 10 years, because you okay, because I even talked a lot to authors, and they're like, I want the best seller status as well. Yeah, I want to do that exactly what you did. And I'm like, why? And then I'm like,

Kristina: 22:46

I love that. What's the why behind?

Esther: 22:48

The why is it just that you want the accolade or what is it? Where do you see yourself in five to 10 years? What are you doing? How are you acting? And how do you feel? Because that is where you work backwards from? Right, right. It's like, okay, so how you feel in what you're doing should be related to how you want to show up and your purpose, right? But the 510 years should be building towards that legacy, right that you want to leave in your life. But what are you actually doing? And I can tell you so many people have a hard time because even when they do the legacy exercise, they write it like their obituary, I was successful. I made lots of money, and then I'm okay, we wait. Let's be very specific. What is lots of money mean? What are you doing with that money? What is that? Because I mean, there's, you know, they're like millions? Why? What is it? What is it doing for you? What is it that you're really after? Right? Is it that you want creative freedom? Is it freedom of geography? Is it really that much that you need, right? And so it forces the person to go really specific? What am I actually doing it five years is different from now. And then when we actually break it down, you start seeing Oh, and you're five, I'm here, or you're 10? Whatever it is, right? You're four, I'm going to be here, you're three, I'm going to be here, right, your two year one, and each one is building off each other. But then it helps you filter out opportunities, right? You've seen this

Kristina: 24:08

ship? Yeah, that's actually something that I'm in the middle of right now where everything has sped up where I'm insanely busy. So I'm having to prioritize way more than even a month ago. And all the sudden I'm like, do I have time for this? I have to choose between this and this. Exactly.

Esther: 24:30

And, and the thing is, it can be from simple things. Do I go to this party or not this party, right? Simple. You know, we like to not, but it can be from complex where you're at right where it's too I do this class. So I do this collaboration. Exactly. Yeah, either one. We're always making decisions, but sometimes we're making decisions without tying it to a higher thing, right. We're making decisions based on what we think and what we think will be more money, maybe more opportunity, right? But I think We take a step back, we do this work of like five to 10 years, I always do the thought question, is this aligned with me? Is it going to lead to my 510? year goal? Yes or no. And then that's how I know to filter because of course, I'm multi passionate. There's a lot of things I know a lot of us are, are so many things I could do and so many different collaborations I can go into. But is it really leading to my legacy, or it's just something super cool. And it's not saying that you can't do this something super cool. But it has to go and lower tier to the things that are actually moving you to where you want to go? Because that's one more thing you're adding in, what are you taking out? Right? Yeah, and so that five to 10 year thing, because if you're clear on that, then it doesn't feel so long, because your image is like, like, I remember, when I started my journey, you know, I was like, I want to be speaking on stage, but on things that are not related to my current job. I had been speaking on stages about my job. But I wanted to be speaking about this narrative. I was like, okay, that's what I want to be doing in five years at that time. I'm like, Okay, well, what's gonna take more than a year, if I break that down, I have to become a well known speaker, I have to be very clear on what I'm communicating, I have to build an audience, right? And you start going down, down, down, then it's like, okay, you're one I'm going to build a movement and audience, right, year two, I'll start speaking, right, you're three, I'll be speaking in multiple places, right? And then a year five would be yes, I'm gonna be in that huge stage. But it's in a way that it builds it's realistic, you start seeing how you're getting closer to that vision. And you can break it down into steps, right and not beat yourself up. That's not going to happen in a year.

Kristina: 26:45

This is so beautiful. And I'm telling you, I know it works, because I unconsciously did it in one way with my podcast. So everyone was advising me that I needed to put a lot of time and effort into my social media, but I didn't have the bandwidth, the first six plus months to do it. So I was able to listen to my gut and just say, I have to put that on the backburner right now. And then I'm gonna focus on that at a later date. But you're just basically taking that thing that I did, and you're explaining how to do it consistently. And like, how you're breaking down how to do it.

Esther: 27:27

Exactly. And that way when people come to you and probably are like, do the social media just so you're like, No, I'm okay. can have your plan when it's coming. That's your two. Sorry, that's your two for me. And I had a lot of that people who do this course to this thing. Do more courses. I'm like, Yeah, I have courses. But I'm not going to market those till next year. That's in my 2025 plan. Right. And when you're clear on that, it's not even something so you're saying no, you're just like, Yes. Coming late. Yeah, no,

Kristina: 27:53

yeah. Mainly, yeah. No. And that was never that was my thing, too. Even with the way I was building my podcast and what was being taught to me. And then me saying, No, that's actually not right. For my plan.

Esther: 28:07

No, right. And trust your intuition. Yeah. Yeah. And but it's tough, right. Because and it

Kristina: 28:14

wasn't that I was saying no to the advice. I was saying no, right now, right now, that particular thing? Yeah, yeah, of course, that's an important component. But I'm doing it at this place down the line. Exactly.

Esther: 28:30

The way that works naturally for you. Right, exactly. And that's how we go. And yeah, it's the same with me speaking is on stages, March and more natural to me then. And so I did that. I'm been building that first. But same thing, my husband and I are gonna start our podcast later this year. But we're like, Oh, you guys need to do that early on. And I was like, well, for us.

Kristina: 28:50

There's only so much you

Esther: 28:54

guys do? Yeah, the image is me speaking. Right. And so I need to first build that, and then again, when that's naturally moving, then I can move to the next thing. That's why I love that one book is a book called The One Thing by Gary Keller, it's all about You do one thing at a time. Oh, I love it. And even though you're doing other small things, right, what is your big rock that you're moving? And really focusing on? Right? I mean, that's the same thing part of a prioritizing, right? Yeah, some priority. Yeah.

Kristina: 29:21

But I like how you really spell it out. Because like, you know that I mean, there's just so much ethereal information out there that can be hard to apply.

Esther: 29:32

Exactly. And you got to test it out and things. And so in my workbook, I take like, Okay, what is that big vision five years? And how do you break that into goals and milestones, and steps and tasks? And then that's what you put in your calendar and the day to day you break it all down, and you move through them? And if it's spelled out for you, right? Even if you're having a bad day, you're opening it up and you go, Oh, I'm going to work on that one test today. I'm moving one step closer to my limitless life. You So when you ask him that question, how do you do that? It's small steps every day, but you first need to have that clarity and direction. Oh my gosh, as to where that is? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And then you have that roadmap that guides you through. But one thing that I say is non negotiable. You got to schedule in all that time to do that, that self care of saying, whatever that is, that helped you before. Yeah, that has to be in there. For me, I read my testimonials every morning. That's really key for me, because I know, I'm here to make this impact. And I start my day like that. But that's what helped me back when I was 16. That's what helped me through write that's very unique to me, as I talked about, it's very unique to you. And for me, that helps me right away. Even if I didn't sleep at night, I'm right. This is why I'm here, right? This is great. And I move through but for other people, it's I need to work out in the morning. For other people's I need to read an inspirational quote, or an inspirational book. There's no right or wrong. But having that in there is going to help you keep going on this journey. And five years is a drop in the bucket. I mean, the vision I had for five, it's it's actually really sorry to come to lie, it came to life much sooner. But in my next vision, it's there. But I think the timeline, it can be a lot shorter, right. But what's great is giving yourself that grace, if you make it before I put lots of buffers are fantastic, right? But if you don't feel that pressure that I didn't make it in time, right? You're ready, inspiring, you're ready making and actually becomes less important. I'm at this place now. And I'm sure you can relate, or I have a piece now. There's so much more. There's still more visions, I could have bigger stages, all sorts of things, but it's not important. I feel like if I died tomorrow, I feel this great piece because my message is out there. I'm living authentically.

Kristina: 31:47

So beautiful. I was interviewed by another podcaster a few weeks back and she asked me what would your perfect life look and I said I'm living it every exactly me to

Esther: 31:59

feel it's sure you always have bigger visions of 510 years. But as I tell people, it's really about how if you're showing up authentically, everyday your purpose and you can keep moving towards those things, but those destination becomes way less important. And it's really just creating that roadmap. So you're you're feeling it every day, but I promise people will you will feel in less than a year is alignment.

Unknown: 32:25

Yes, yeah. Yes. Beautifully said

Kristina: 32:29

oh my gosh, Dr. celadon, I cannot believe this conversation. It's been incredible. Any last words that you want to share. And then you need to share with us how we can find you and how we can work with you, and all your social links and all that stuff.

Esther: 32:49

Well, the last message I want to leave listeners is that it is possible you know what I mean? You can change your life. You can make whatever tweak alignment, whatever you want. It's not selfish, you do deserve it. And I'm giving you your permission slip to do it and just go after it. Everyone is limitless though. There's so many things open to us. So I want to see you go after it. You can find me on Instagram I might be dot x dot change. So it's be your true self act to change who's gonna take those actions. And then we can together change the world. That's what big change stands for. But you can find me on Instagram so Instagram, I have more of the fun stuff reels and then I'm also on LinkedIn, LinkedIn, I share a lot more of the articles the thought pieces so I'm also on LinkedIn there. So all your favorite social media platforms and I response so if you want to comment like I liked this part of your book, or I don't have a champion I'm I'm here to champion you and your journey.

Unknown: 33:51

Ah,

Kristina: 33:52

I love it so much. Thank you. Thank you so much Dr. celadon for coming on my podcast today. I just want to say thank you, again for writing your book. Thank you for being vulnerable. Thank you for being you and sharing your incredible journey. You are truly amazing. Everything will be in the shownotes you guys so you can find her and connect with Dr. Esther celadon.

Esther: 34:17

Thank you.

Kristina: 34:22

Hey, everyone. Thanks so much for taking time out of your busy life to listen to today's episode. I love learning about what makes you brave. I'm here with you. I see you. I hear you and I want to hear from you. I want to know how you're showing up as being brave and authentic. Connect with me on Instagram at she's brave podcast or come join our community in the she's brave podcast Facebook group. I'm sending you so much love. Until next time. Keep being brave.