Days of Thunder / The Austin Powers Effect (Guest: Travis Samson)

Former drone operator, plant dad, and "What Are We Watching?" (Matthew Fosket) fanboy, Travis Samson puts it in Cruise Control ®️ for a Review Review of "Days of Thunder." (1990 Dir. Tony Scott ) Starring: Robert Duvall, Michael Rooker, Nicole Kidman, and featuring ...Tom Cruise! We run circles for what must be 500 laps about the who/what/where/when/why of this highly produced 90s vanity piece. Look, we’re gonna eat something, then we’re gonna make some phone calls, then we’ll be back, alright?

Plot: A young hot-shot stock car driver gets his chance to compete at the top level.

1hr 48mins

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et's Automotive. Wait, let me put the key in. You're gonna drop the hammer? Click click. Go on the outside.

No, don't go on the outside. Go on the outside. Don't go on the outside. Put a special set of match tires. They're staggered perfect.

Oh, I'm so We're already blown out the speakers just like this movie did to my ears. Hey, it's me. I'm Paul. I'm Ben. Enjoying a delicious beverage.

It's a tea. Not an ice cream bar. No. We have a guest with us. Hi.

I'm Travis. I am acquaintances slash friends with, these guys. Any other qualifiers you wanna give to people? No. Nothing like that.

I'm I'm vastly underqualified for this. And, Just like Cole Trickle? Just like Cole Trickle. I mean, I'm just a guy out of Eagle Rock, you know, in California. Sure.

I'm from California, so I'm not a Yankee. I'm not nothing. You're not you're nothing. I'm nothing. It means that you have you can print whatever we want on you.

I have as about as much character background on you as I do on Cole Trickle. Oh, there you go. Yeah. And other people with penis names. I'll I'll log a full out of you.

Alright. Okay. Oh, by the way, the movie that Travis brought us is a movie called Daytona Days, the Legend of Cole Trickles Pickle? It's that was the working title, actually. Yeah.

Days of Thunder. Yeah. Starring Tom Cruise. I've always described it as, Top Gun with cars. Yeah.

I hope you appreciated this shirt. I did. Okay. I didn't really I didn't wanna lose any of the gold, before we were recording. So I wanna make sure Well, they can't hear it.

So I just need you guys to talk about it. He is wearing a Top Gun shirt. It has glasses on it, like aviator glasses. It's a very clever little design. And Travis and I both were like, oh, yeah.

Same movie, just reverse areas. Yeah. We made the top side to bottom side, and the soft flip the top to the bottom. And then Yeah. And then the left would be cocktail, and the right was color of money.

It's all the same movie. Why didn't they make one with submarines go down? They could have. Tony Scott did years later. Oh, I guess that's true.

That movie is fucking great. Yeah. Yeah. But we watched Days of Thunder, and that's all great. But, Travis, what do you do?

Talk about you. Give us some help. Well, right now Outside of that, you don't wanna claim us as friends or really, like, close people. Well, I didn't want I didn't wanna presume. You know?

I didn't we're relatively new acquaintances. No. That's fair. We watched Roadhouse together. We watched Roadhouse together.

Yeah. We did watch Roadhouse together. Very similar courtship scene, by the way, with the doctor. But there's a little there's a there's a thread there. Oh, I was thinking of the courtship of I used to fuck guys like you in prison.

I was thinking of it different. I I I was all talking about our personal courtship, at first, but then you didn't give me the same. Did you also non consensually grab his junk? What were we saying? Oh, what do I do?

So I've done a lot of different things. Probably the most pertinent to this show is I worked for a long for, like, 5 years doing drone stuff, so flying drones on movies and television. And we did that for, yeah, 4 or 5 years when Liz and I moved down here. And then I, about 9 months ago, just took a break from that because it was way too much. We did it with, like, 5 features in 6 months.

Oh, wow. And it was just it was a lot of fun, but it was I burned out. As as the kid used to say, I burned out. Yeah. And so I kinda Too close to the sun, baby.

6 or 7 months. Yeah. Too close to the sun. But, yeah, we did a bunch of, whole bunch of work down here last year. And then before that, we were with another company that was out of Van Nuys, beautiful Van Nuys.

Mhmm. Historic. And that was mostly car commercials. The porn capital of California. It's funny, that there was so our shop was right was literally adjacent to the Van Nuys airport.

And there was there was a shop 2 spaces down that was a porn studio, and they got shut down because, one of the guys went crazy that was in it Oh. And came out into the parking lot naked with a samurai sword. Cops had to come and and and break it all up. So were you playing GTA? I was not playing GTA.

I wasn't even there yet, but I wish I had been. Something weird. I don't know if you guys know this. I just figured this out. I guess there's some drug abuse sometimes in the porn industry.

There is. I wonder if this guy was I'm not sure if it's just local to Van Nuys or if it's all porn. Is it everywhere? I think you should be able to watch a little bit of porn at work. Are you sure?

What if work is porn? You're gonna watch a little bit of, like, porn stuff. A lot of bit of porn. I'm just watching Little X Men. Yeah?

Can we agree that those people are really fucking brave and vulnerable? Like, holy shit. People that are watching porn at work? Well, yeah. But I mean, well But people not As long as it's not the people who take advantage of the lit of, like, of the porn actors.

Right. Sure. Of course. But the folks who chose to to go on that career path, like, holy shit. Wow.

I mean, wouldn't you I couldn't imagine if you were like those guys like, if I was born with their gifts With the penises measuring device. I too would want to share it. With a I'd be like With a little trickle? With a r three. Yeah.

Exactly. I'd be like, hey, everybody. I would also be very Well, this got this got weird again. How are people doing? Ben, how are you?

Oh, you asked me for I was gonna I was gonna get you this time. I don't give a shit. And you always get me first. It's like it's like you think you're driving this thing. You're driving I'm sipping on tea.

Oh. Not gin and juice, but my 2010 Ford Hybrid Escape just wasn't wasn't as fun to drive it today as Uh-oh. As it was, before I watched this movie. I tried I tried to drop the hammer. Yeah.

That's just that's just reverse. Yeah. Yeah. Not not not great to do on the freeway. The hybrid battery exploded.

Flew out of the car. Yeah. And then I got road rage and went and crashed into the guy that passed me. Yeah. There you go.

But there were no repercussions, so everything's fine. I got it not to get into spoiler alert, but that was Grand Mall road rage incident was when I got off the couch. It was she was like, what the fuck is it? Anyway I just wanna say Liz I love that part. Travis's wife, Liz's husband is Travis.

She was on our Brazil episode. She was. Great episode. Really, really fun movie. Travis, how are you?

I'm great. We just went and saw a delightful movie called Roadhouse Yeah. At Vidiots. It was very fun. It was much there were way more people there than I thought.

I know that, like, every weekend they have some kind of campy fun movie, and it draws a crowd, but it was completely packed that day, and it was a whole lot of fun. So that was really fun. Other than that, I'm doing really good. I'm kinda Awesome. Yeah.

I'm just exploring other things. I just finished building a greenhouse. I'm learning about plants. I think that's so cool. We were talking about I was like, dude, I I kill every plant that comes to my home.

And he's like, do they get light? And I'm like, no. Not at all. Is that a what? Well, the lamp's on.

I've got a jalapeno plant that's been going for, like, 2 years. Yeah? You do pretty well. You get that porch that gets, like, good light intermittently. Right?

Well, it get for jalapenos. The squirrels eat all my other plants. Right. But they don't like the jalapenos. I can imagine why.

Yeah. I don't know. I had a I have a pepper plant that I thought was a jalapeno plant plant, and I thought I just was bad at growing them because I kept picking them and they tasted really, really, like, alarmingly bad. And then I just gave up and just put the plant up on the hill and then realized they weren't jalapenos. They were just unripe whatever the red peppers are, like serranos or something.

Oh, yeah. And so I was eating them right when they were born, and they tasted horrible. So, yeah, don't make sense. Mistakes mistakes were made. Jalapeno talk.

Paul, how are you? I'm doing okay. My back is mostly okay ish. Okay. I just had an emergency root canal.

I just got a letter from the IRS for I don't know why. Things are good. Things are so good. Hey. What is everybody watching?

No. I'm honestly I'm okay. But, like, you know. Do you get a discount from a for a from a root canal? Because it's like Same last name.

Yeah. They're just removing me. Yeah. Your your you is now canaled. Now, weirdly not, it is I don't know if anybody's gotten a letter from the IRS, but I don't know what's in there.

And it's just like, oh, it can never be good. I like to think that you got that while you were getting your root canal. Like You got served. Hi. Are you Paul?

By the way. No. What? Do you I got a letter from the IRS today too. Do you have the email that's, like, tells you what you're gonna get?

Okay. So that happened to me this morning. I woke up fucking ruined my day. I told you. I can tell you what I got is they said, hey.

I overpaid. I they owe me a $150 or something. Great. So but in that moment, that was terrible. My favorite.

Oh, it was so good. Yeah. I was so I was, like, shaking getting the letter open because all day, you just stress out about it when you see it on the email. I can only imagine that how this must have been for you, and I hope it's the same for me. I made an I made a a, you know, a loud noise in my garage by myself.

I went and then I went inside and showed Liz the rest of the mail. But Well, she had There is hope, or you're getting audited. Either way. Yes. Who's to say?

Yeah. Aside from keeping an eye on my mail, gentlemen, what is it that we are watching? Play it. I'm gonna cut that. Play it.

What's that? Play it, Sam. Play it again, man. But I can't hear it. I know.

Isn't that lame? It's Sam. You know what's weird though? You can. I think you can.

I can. Yeah. We're all we're all playing in our head. Mhmm. Who's gonna lead this off?

I'll go ahead and I'll go ahead and go. Oh, you keep talking? Why not? Yeah. I Paul's my favorite favorite favorite thing.

Yes. What am I watching? I've been watching award shows lately. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's what's been on.

I'm gonna be voting for the SAG Awards, the actor, sooner than later, obviously. And it's been really interesting for me. It's like I've watched The Bear and really enjoyed it. Tried to watch Succession a couple of times, and it's just probably not for me. And see these shows just, like, sweep every essentially major category.

And I'm more like a Better Call Saul. Sad story there in terms of, like, awards nominations for us. Never got never won anything. 53 nominations. God.

I have no wins. But on the pro I was saying that last night in the image, and I was like, the problem is nobody watched it. I thought it was I mean, I loved I loved Better Call Saul. I thought it was a master's. And but I was so late, and you know that.

Like, I'm sure while it was on week to week, it yeah. Probably different situation. But Better Call Saul, Berry, Beef. Like, I may I mind my 3 beefs. Those were the shows that I was, like, really pulling for.

Yeah. And beef, you know, got a couple Beef cleaned up. You know, which is great. Really enjoyed that show. But it's, like, I'm just kinda wondering, like, am I so out of touch?

No. It happens fast. It's the children who are wrong. There's a Simpsons reference for everybody. But, like, it's just like I it I felt like it was like, man, what am I, like, missing?

But, it was great to see Beef get a couple, but the award shows have me perplexed so far this this season, this year. I think you can take solace in the fact that it doesn't determine quality necessarily. Sure. We've talked determines popularity. What dreams may come?

Oscar winning film, what dreams may come? It's so easy to follow, though, and it's so short and fast. I also I love the bear. I eat I think it's great. I love the shirt.

I think it competing in the comedy, categories is is absurd. It's not Weird. It's not a comedy. It's just it's just not an hour long show. Yeah.

And that's why it's in that Yeah. Category. Yeah. That's fair. Otherwise, you're like, this isn't a comedy.

No. It's it's got funny moments, but yeah. Yeah. Like, but but what doesn't have funny moments, though? Right?

Like, there's moments of that show that are the most stressful, that are like uncut gems level stress. And they just they bring you there and they're just like, buckle up. And so like anything that's kind of fun, you're like, I want some outlet to like, let all this tension out. That's really well put. I just recently watched rewatched Uncut Gems for the very first time because I felt like I had to wait, like, because I just wasn't ready.

Yeah. And to be prepare myself for it. Mhmm. And, yeah, I was right. Yeah.

That your stomach hurt. Fucking incredible, but it's, like, it's only every several years, it seems. I think my teeth grind, like, you know, I shave off, like, an eighth of an inch every time I watch a movie like that. Just from sitting there and clenching. Travis, what are you watching?

I do a thing where I watch a lot of shows that people have talked about and are over and that I just start because I just discovered them. So I watched almost finished, actually, one of the last episode of Midnight Mass. Oh, yeah. Did you do Midnight Mass? Mike Flanagan.

Mike Flanagan. Lives lives loves Mike Flanagan. And I really, really like it a lot. Yeah. And I like that show a lot.

He does again, this is where my ignorance is gonna show here, but he does I think he did I mix up House on Haunted Hill and Haunting of Hill House. Haunting of Hill House. Is that the one he did? Yeah. Both based on the same story.

And that's there was one, I think because it's the same cast and everything he does. He uses a lot of the same people. His wife's in most pretty much everything. Yeah. Henry Thomas from ET.

Yes. Yeah. Anyway, I really love that show. I really love House on Haunted Hill. There were a couple just from a a camera movement perspective, there were a couple things on that that house on a hill show, whatever it was.

Honey Hill Honey Hill House. Sorry. Honey Hill House. House. Where there's just, like, in terms of camera movement is wild.

Right? Where they there'll be it'll be a oner that'll end up, you know, start in some room like this and then go through a wall and be in another space. And there were parts of Midnight Mass that were similar to that, but it was just such a cool conceit. I don't wanna I mean, that show is pretty old now, so it's probably not Yeah. I think we're good.

It it made me really wanna reread Salem's lot. Yeah. I just remembered. Midnight Mass? What's that?

Which one? Midnight Mass where you wanna I thought read Salem's Lot. I mean, he's definitely I mean, that's why his Stephen King adaptations are so strong because Yeah. Yeah. He's he's taking a lot.

Like, I he did Doctor Sleep Yeah. Which I loved. And, he did Gerald's Game, which is a short on Netflix. Also, such a cool conceit. Yeah.

Right? Such a cool is it the King right there? Yeah. It's a short story by Stephen King. Yeah.

That I guess maybe that's what, Midnight Mass feels like. Is it I'm an unabashed huge fanboy of Stephen like, I know that Stephen King writes pulpy trash a lot. Dude, don't But he also writes an 80 one of the best writers. I love it. Yeah.

I will I listen easy. I listen to all of it. The dark half is one of my all time favorite fiction books. There is a It's so great. If you're If you write, read that book.

It's funny. I I conflate them all together because I always listen to them all at once. Don't conflate the modality, bro. Don't do it all at once. But, goddamn it.

For a while, he wrote under a pseudonym and I forget the name. Richard Bachman. Richard Bachman. The Long Walk is another one of my favorites. Mist is the shit.

And thinner and stuff were all under that weird name. But, anyway, the Midnight Mass conceit I thought was so cool, which is, you know, it's it's a priest gets infected by a vampire and sees it as divine as divine power. Yeah. Divine intervention. Yeah.

It's such a cool that's such a cool idea. I And it makes total sense because I mean, I I love it too. I thought Hamish Linklater was just phenomenal in that. Agreed. Yeah.

I thought he deserved a nomination. Sharif, whatever they call him in that. Or it's just that one racist guy calls him Sharif. I have to go back. Like, it's like little details like that are missing for me.

So I'll go. I just went boom boom boom Friday, Saturday, Sunday. I did, Holdovers, Poor Things, and Society of the Snow. Holy shit. Boom.

Boom. Boom. Boom. Have you seen a live? Just a quick.

Okay. Yeah. This is better. Okay. I'm sure of it.

It's also not a movie to start at 10 PM before you're going to bed that you throw on your laptop while you're laying in bed next to your sleeping wife. I highly do not recommend that. With your jerky snacks on your nightstand. And you're like, I'm just gonna watch this little movie here, and then it starts and it's just Right. And this had one star out of at 10.

Brutal Yeah. Plane crash. Yeah. I loved them all. I loved all of them.

Okay. Yeah. Holdovers, man. Holdovers is great. Poor Things, I absolutely loved.

I saw it in the theater. I've never been a huge Emma Stone fan, and I thought she was phenomenal in this. Nice. It's weird. Yorgos is a fucking freak.

And, I love a horny movie, man. I loved The Favourite, which was his movie in 2016, I think. Loved it. And then Society of Snow with JA Bojana, it just brought me it kinda made me really upset because he also did the impossible, if you remember the impossible. The wave movie?

The tsunami in Thailand with Ewan McGregor, young Tom Holland. He does survival movies really, really well. Like, they're brutal. They're gritty. They make you they put you there, and they make you feel uncomfortable, and, like, you don't wanna be watching this.

And so imagine someone who does that so well doing a Jurassic Park. Well, he did fucking Jurassic Park Lost World and or, I mean, Lost Kingdom, Fallen Kingdom. Doesn't matter. And and just think if you took studio hands out of that, what he could have delivered instead of the garbage that we got. Like, let's take a guy who's famous for making survival movies and put this entire movie in a fucking mansion.

You know, interesting you bring that up when it's like you take a great director who somehow worked with some interesting producers and made this, like, very America thing like Top Gun, and then the producers get a a crazy amount of control, and it goes from America to Merka. Should we get into it? Should I grab the the fact sheet? I mean, right? I'm ready.

Okay. Let's do it. Lead it in. Archaeology is the search for facts. We have a lead in.

I know. Of course. There's no button. I keep expecting there to be some awesome sound drop. Just replay the What Are We Watching.

I got the theater of the mind. I get it. Be quiet. It's just a little Doctor. Jones for you.

Okay. Perfect. Then Yeah. We watch Days of Thunder. Yes, we did.

It's a Simpson Bruckheimer Paramount production. 19 90. It is PG 13 and it is an hour and 47 minutes. The budget on this movie is 60,000,000 adjusted. That is a 139,900,000.

Wow. It none of it's on the screen. Crazy. All those cars. Yep.

Sure. There are some cars that they got. There's a lot of cars. Wheelchairs they destroyed? That's done that's done sequence?

As many as many are more than Mac and me or Murderball or How many wood frame cars did they destroy from afar so they look real? Opening weekend was July 1, 1990. I broke up. It got it made 15,500,000 adjusted. That's 36.1.

Real quick. Paul has his hand. If that's the budget of your movie and that was your first weekend Yeah. As of today as of now, you're fucked. It's over.

Also, like, 4th July around 4th July, you should be Yeah. Breaking it in. Breaking it in. Yeah. Yeah.

I looked at those numbers, and I was just like, wow. Final gross North America was 82 point 7. Adjusted, that's a 192.8. Final gross worldwide, a 157.9, adjusted 372. Not bad.

Not bad. When all is said and done. Other releases this weekend, Ghost Dad. Any what? Yeah.

Sysco and Ebert 2 thumbs way down. What? Yeah. Maybe they were onto something. I get it, but it stars oh, no.

Weekend top 5, this movie. Dick Tracy, RoboCop 2. No. I'm pruned Tracy. Total Recall, get your ass to Moz.

Get your ass to him. Is running up through on the screen, Leo. And another 48 hours. Yeah. Top 5 films this year, Home Alone, Ghost, Dances with Wolves, Pretty Woman, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

I think this is our first 1990. I believe so because it's, like, I haven't gone on my Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles rant ever on this podcast. Yeah. That's that's a 5 star. We've done a few 80 nines.

Right? I think so. Yeah. But we've never done a 90. No.

I I misspoke, and I said this was 89 in a little intro. I'm not cutting it out either. Good. Well, this is kinda well, we'll say it was a leap year. Our listener is coming for you.

No. But I I that is a 5 star movie for me. No shit. The editing is incredible. I completely forget that it's dudes in suits with air conditioners strapped to them at points.

Mhmm. Like, it's lit beautifully. That movie is, like, a masterpiece. And that movie is supposed to please 7 to 10 year old boys. And it's just, like, entirely to my I'm gonna not follow that thread.

That movie is fantastic. I haven't seen it since I was a kid. The score is great. It's great. I'll have to watch them again.

Time for a review. Oh, you betcha. It's on my it's on my wish list for this program. It is. Other films from 1990, Back to the Future 3, Pretty Woman, Gremlins 2, The New Batch, Die Hard 2, Godfather 3, The Hunt for Red October, Kindergarten Cop, and Steven Seagull in Marked for Death, and Steven Seagull in Hard to Kill.

Steven Seagull and Steven Seagull? Yeah. Oh, cool. Talladega Nights, The Ballad of Ricky Bobby was released in 2006 and that's an unofficial sequel to this movie. Right?

I didn't know it was an because it just seems like the hotshots version or something. It's like shot for shot. Another 5 star movie for me. Talladega Nights is a masterpiece. I think it's great.

I think it's one of those movies that gets ruined by over quoting, you know? But, like, it's like the the Austin Powers effect where, like, in a vacuum, that movie was pretty funny and pretty good and whatever for the time. Yeah. For sure. But everyone's dad coming in and going and saying, yeah, babe.

I can't even say it in the voice without, like, misheard it. Cringing? Sure. Cringing. I think that kind of happened.

When I worked in the kitchen, we had an 86 board, and we just started putting, like, Austin Powers quotes, Napoleon Dynamite quotes. Yeah. Anchorman quotes. Like, we just started And it was just like Stephen who won't stop doing Austin Powers quotes. Yeah.

That that movie just it it holds up super well for me. I rewatched it not that long ago. I just I'll have to get back. On a technical aspect You're talking about Talladega Nights. Yeah.

Not letting other people ruin it for me or whatever, which can be very hard. Right? Yeah. Just depending on what it is. But I I had a hard time with a lot of Will Ferrell movies post Anchorman because none of them held up to that movie for me.

And I feel like Talladega Nights actually, like, ascended a little bit, and Anchorman has almost descended a little bit as I've gotten, like, a little bit older. And partly because I just think Talladega Nights is, like, a spot on parody of this very strange thing. Yeah. It's definitely smarter. And the problem with Anchorman is that, at least for me, it was on loop during college.

Like, Anchorman I have seen Anchorman 200 times, and I'm I'm over it. Yeah. No. No. Yeah.

I won't revisit for a long time, I'm sure. It's not that it's bad, but Letterbox average for this movie is 3.1. You can follow me on Letterbox at run b m c. You can follow me on Letterbox at paulaxbadly. And you can't follow me on Letterbox because I'm a bad person.

Because fuck you. Because yeah. Get fucked. Siskel and Ebert, 2 thumbs up with reservations. It's husky Siskel.

I'm gonna yeah. Reser I'm gonna good. Okay. Good. No reservations.

Major award wins, nominations, best sound. By that, do they mean loudest sound? Yeah. Like, what the fuck? It was loud.

It was not mixed well. It was not mixed well at all. How did anybody watch how did everybody watch this? Blaringly Loud or Definitely Science. I I watched on Paramount Plus.

Did anybody, Okay. Did everybody Amazon. Amazon. Bezos. I have to be yeah.

Only the best. Yeah. Bezos. Yeah. I assumed I was like, this has to be because it's on a streaming service that, like, the mix or the compression, something's bad.

Like, you posted on something else. Yeah. Amazon and it was still and I agree with you where it was just, like, you have to watch it, like, blaringly loud where I think what I said was, did you get skull fucked by the 1991 Chevy Luminess? They'd be inside and they'd be like, how you doing? Yeah.

You I'm in a race. Okay. Yeah. They're like Just icy fucking, like, guitar solo coming up out of there. Yeah.

Jeff bit pops around the corner. Controls an illusion, you fucking child. Paul, I want you to talk about these insane people. I will. I wanna say on that note that Nicole Kidman does kill that fucking monologue.

The director of this film Which monologue? Scott, RIP. Top Gun, Enemy of the State, True Romance, Crimson Tide. Story writers were Robert Towne, and wouldn't you guess it, Thomas Mapother Crews. And wouldn't you guess it, the writer writer is Robert Towne.

Chinatown, Mission Impossible, Tequila Sunrise, a movie that's come up on this podcast in one way. Because you watched it. Form. Yep. Because you don't care about your time.

Correct. I do not. We're all gonna die, Ben. We're gonna fill the time with some. Might as well be Kurt Russell and Michelle Fiverr movies, I guess.

God, I gotta figure something out. What are you doing? There's always more people. The director of photography of this film was Ward Russell. Now, Ben has made it very clear to me, like, hey, man.

Some of these people, a lot of people don't know, like, who they are. Please use recognizable credits. And I try to respect that. Mhmm. In the way that if it's Tom Cruise, for instance, I'm gonna use whatever I want.

Yeah. Sure. But if it's the director of photography, I'm gonna try to use recognizable things. Mhmm. This is the list.

Okay. Lawnmower Man 2 Beyond Cyberspace. So much better than the than the first. So much better than the first. Meaning, when he was trapped within cyberspace, it was something.

It changes things. But when he gets beyond cyberspace, David? Man? Both of those movies are terrible. They're so bad.

Oh, I'm, oh, I'm catty tonight. Okay. Oh, they're so bad. He also did, the X Files movie from 1998, which is a pretty well shot movie, my opinion. The music was by Hans Zimmer, Inception, Dune, Dunkirk, Blackhawk down as good as it gets.

So producers for him to have done as good as it gets. Interesting. Like, I think of him as, like, epic blockbusters now. Right. Yeah.

Not like kooky weird, like, funky people are, like, racing at the beach in their rental cars. It was definitely one synth that he had. He was in a room about this big with one sin. With a Casio How did they get to the beach? Yes.

I have so many thoughts about that race. They did. I I How did they get to the beach? I'm excited to talk about this. What happened to the car?

Oh, the rental car race? Yeah. Oh, we'll get into it. They just dropped him off and it's like I got it. Must have had fucking insurance.

Right? I love that. No police, no repercussions, no reservations. It's Tom Cruise. Too close to call?

Yeah. Was produced by Jerry Bruckheimer and Don Simpson, RIP. The Rock, Beverly Hills Cop and The Rock. I put it twice. It was so nice, mentioned it twice.

Tom Cruise played Cole Trickle, penis. Rock of Ages, Night and Day, cocktail. Robert Duvall as Harry Hogg, penis, To Kill A Mockingbird. Jack Reacher, The Godfather. Nicole Kidman, Doctor Lewicki, To Die For, Far and Away, Trespass The AMC, opening.

Yeah. And heartbreak feels good in a place like this, my friend. Michael Rooker as Rowdy Burns, Guardians of the Galaxy, Fast 9, Mallrats, Carrie Always, Russ Wheeler, The Princess Bride, Saw, Kiss the Girls, Randy Quaid, Tim DeLand, Independence Day, National Lampoon's Vacation, and National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation. Think also your local prison. Or or psych ward.

I'm not sure which one. You guys wanna visit? That I think this might be too fancy of a prison. I don't think he's in a California prison. You know, when you think of, like, I need someone to play, like a high brow corporate person, Randy Quaid is the first name that comes to mind.

It is. Yeah. Has he ever played a straight character? Like, has he ever played a normal person like this? This is probably the least lunatic I mean, Brokeback Mountain he played, but like a rancher.

Has has anyone seen The Last Detail with Jack Nicholson from the seventies? No. He played like, he has his original teeth, and he just plays like a wet behind the ears kid who's gonna like, it's his last night before he, like, goes gets sent off in the military or whatever. Yeah. But he's a totally normal, like, kid, but also was, like, the seventies and Yeah.

It probably was totally normal. Before Exactly. Before all that ketamine. Yeah. Cocaine's a hell of a drug.

John c Riley, which it's so important to me that he is in Days of Thunder and Talladega Nights. I don't know why. Buck Brotherton, son of Buddy Brotherton, which you don't find that out for a while because you would never assume. You don't find out about anybody for a while. NASCAR.

Yeah. You don't find out about a lot of them ever. Yeah. And you're not feeling for the story. Yeah.

Oh. Peter of the mind. The magic man himself was in Boogie Nights, Talladega Nights, The Battle of Ricky Bobby, and Walkhard, the legend to the story of Dewey Cox. Mhmm. Fred Dalton Thompson, RIP.

Big John, penis. Die Hard 2 in the line of fire, and Ben's most favoritest movie. No. It's not Baby Geniuses. We're gonna just lay baby's day out right on him anyway.

Just do it. I have to talk about Walk Hard real quick. I was Please. Or I wasn't. My brother was watching it with my stepmom.

Yeah. You would never watch that? Never. Not with my stepmom. But my stepmom because the piece thought my stepmom, for some reason, thought that it was a true story.

She thought she remembered that he was a real per Dewey Cox was a real person. Awesome. And so when Jonah Hill gets cut in half, like, as the little brother and is still alive, she was like, did that really happen? It was like an in person vendetta effect. My brother would be like, no.

What? Travis. Yes. Let's have some fun. Tell me some fun stuff.

Fun stuff? Let me get to the fun stuff. Okay. Fun facts. Producer Don Simpson also plays, the driver Aldo Benedetti, which sounds racist, but that's the actual name.

You gotta say it like this, Aldo Benedetti. Not Benedetti. Now it's racist. Always, like, he he had a bowl of spaghetti on his head. The entire moment he had yeah.

He just had ricotta, just like frozen. And he drove actually he was having a steering wheel with just 2 little little pulleys. Oh, that was the influence for Green Book. Right? I was like, okay.

Production began without a finished script. A lot of the lines and sees scenes were written on the day, which you can tell in some of it. No. Or during one sequence, Tom Cruise read lines off of cue cards that were taped to the windshield, which resulted in a car accident, which is very funny. And then he was given an earpiece after that instead of reading lines, but he was wearing an earpiece.

Isn't it weird that you wouldn't just do that in the first place? He's wearing a he's wearing a head cinch, you know? I have so many questions of whose idea was it to tape cue cards to the fucking windshield? Also, whose idea was it to not give the driver a radio, You know? He's driving.

He's gonna need a radio. I mean, it's for me, like, with things like that, it's always the producers. Right? So, I mean, but this is I mean, but cruisy is cruisy. Bruckheimer cruise.

I guess that's probably part of it. Is he you're not gonna tell him what to do. So it's like no AD is gonna walk up to Tom Cruise and be like, hey, bro. Put on this lab or whatever. This is the first time we put in cruise control.

It is. It is our 1st cruise. We dropped the hammer, and then we're putting it in cruise control. We've never done a Tom Cruise control. It's our it's our 1st cruise.

Yeah. Really? He does so many you just I I say so many franchises, but it's like Jack Reacher for 2 movies in Mission Impossible. How impossible could it be? Apparently, it's 37 times.

It's improbable. Yeah. It took 37 previous episodes. The movie was conceived when Tom Cruise and Paul Newman were allowed to drive, one of Rick Hendrick's race cars, and they apparently reached speeds of a 180 miles an hour, which is crazy. It's insane.

Of course, they did. I mean, I mean yeah. The whole time I was watching this, I'm like, of course, Tom Cruise did a movie about driving cars fast because he just wanted to drive cars fast. Yes. Surprised he didn't do a motorcycle.

Isn't this whole thing motorcycles, isn't he? Well, he always rides a motorcycle in those movies. Motorcycles. No helmets. No helmets.

It's always like a cruiser. It's never like a I guess in Top Gun, it was like a Kawasaki or something. But in this movie, it's like a big wide V2. It's like a Harley. Yeah.

It's like a big, like, 1800 or whatever. And then in Mission Impossible 2, it's like, some, like, crazy hybridized crotch rocket, I don't know. Yeah. So the ice cream incident when they when he was driving by and the the pit said, don't stop now. We're eating ice cream.

And he he stops the car and goes out and fights him. Apparently, that was, based on a real incident that happened to the Southern 587. I love that. I can't imagine what circumstances is like. I love when they redo that in Talladega Nights and Adam McKay is wearing, like, the laughing clown liquor card.

He's like, you guys gotta have some of this food. It's great. Like, their version of that kills me. It also served nope. I I guess it It did serve showed bonding?

Well, that was just a giant montage where it seemed like it I think the the point to get across, we'll get into it, was that they pretty much had given up because Oh, yeah. The season. They had just given up because they felt like he doesn't listen to him, that, Duvall, and so they both they were just like fucking flying with a ghost maverick. Wait. Sorry.

There there were so many montages in this movie and so much Yes. Exposition that I had to, like like that. Like, yeah. Maybe that's what they meant. But there was, like, everything in this movie was that where you go, well, maybe maybe we're on the next season now.

Maybe this is the next season and maybe he is You're in like act 6 or 7 at that point. Yeah. So much of it is like an analyzation of, like, of masculinity and machismo. You know what would be a great song for this movie? The highway to the danger zone.

He also hasn't done that in the other movies. I know. That would be perfect. Yeah. I mean, you're on a like, you're speeding on a highway.

Yeah. You stay high and you floor it. You should be fine. I've always that's the rules that I learned. Go through roost mode.

Okay. At the final race at the at the climax of the film, somebody comes over to the PA system and shouts start your engines. That's Burt Reynolds. Hell, yeah. 1 Bert what's Bert?

Is Bert his full first name? I was gonna give him a longer first name. Bertram Reynolds. Is it Bort? Is it Bort?

I think it's Bort. Excuse me. Reynolds. Bort? Excuse me.

My son is also My son's also named Bort. Come on. Oh, yeah. The license plates. I got it.

Sorry, Travis. This is Tarantino's favorite movie about sorry. Favorite film about racing. Thank you. He says, and I I'm not sure if I agree, but he says if you take racing films too seriously, they just don't really work.

I think he means specifically this movie. Oh, okay. Then, yes. Because I I'm not sure they weren't taking it seriously when I ran it. They were taking it very seriously.

But I think it was cool. If we take it seriously as an audience, it's way less enjoyable than if we're just, like, alright. Take me on the fucking ride. Yeah. I think he's I think either I'm misunderstanding that or he's being extra generous with that.

I'm sure I wrote it horribly. Also, I don't know if Tarantino is the best judge, for things about race. It's a different kind of photo. Oh, okay. And then, the last fun fact.

Provide, authentic race footage involving the cars. 6 of these cars. These cars were actually raced in 3 real races, in Phoenix in 89, in Daytona, in Darlington in 1990. So they weren't all wooden framed, at least some of them. Well, not the ones they destroy not the ones they didn't destroy.

On purpose. Yeah. Yeah. So it looks like if, if I'm looking at it correctly, they shot a ton in Carolina with just, like, the cars that they built for the movie and, like, replicas of of cars that run throughout the movie and at those real races. Mhmm.

But those scenes, especially when cars are just whipping by really fast and you can't tell any of them are Fords or anything like that Yeah. Those are from, like, Daytona darlings. Got it. Yeah. Yeah.

Those are fun facts. That's what we'll have. We have a little, we have a surprise for you. For me? Yeah.

Surprise. Surprise. What is it? We always ask the guest Okay. What they believe or if they were to write what they think the log line is for this movie.

The log line being the really short sort of blurb that describes a movie in, like, a couple sentence or a sentence. One floor elevator pitch. Okay. Cole trickle, an upcoming sprint track racer with crazy daddy issues. Again, Tom.

Yeah. Finds his way to an old team runner that's killed a guy before, and they decided that they had nothing to lose. You're giving me more details than the movie does. Sorry? I think it's involuntary manslaughter.

I agree. The tagline is, have you seen Top Gun? That, but with race cars? And we're there. That's the that's the logline.

Do we need I Yeah. I mean, the log line is I'm fine with that. A young hotshot a hotshot stock car driver gets his chance to compete at the top level. Great. I think the issue is that my elevators just must last a lot longer.

Like, I I probably go up, like, 30 or 40 floors. Yeah. When it's the elevator pitch, I thought you would But I mean, like, if you were to elevator pitch that, a young hotshot stock driver gets his chance to compete at a top level, I'd be like, that doesn't tell me anything. And what the fuck okay. It tells you more than the movie does.

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Don't cry. I'm not bad. You know, buddy. I just needed a helmet. Just a quick Tissue.

Yeah. Are you better? Or my issue. For your Okay. Daddy issue tissue?

My issue tissue. He must be recording. We are we're we've been recording. I gotta say that is the most high fidelity accurate v 8 impersonation I've ever heard. Thank you so much.

Like a big block. Travis. Do they use big blocks? I don't know. He might you might get the part.

He might get the part. You might get the part. Yeah. Do you do Foley on the side? Yeah.

That's right. I'm ready. Put me in coach. I'm ready to play. No.

No. I'm gonna drive. I can drive anything. Travis, won't you choose a card from Cinephile? Yes.

Travis will choose a card. He will get a freebie. Travis will be selecting a card. Okay. We'll make the rest.

And I just say the name out loud and then you guys Say the card name and you get a free movie that's on there. Okay. And then Oh, I understand the game. Should we go this this way? Yeah.

Clap out loud. It's gonna come back to me and I'm gonna end my moves. Gene Hackman, and the movie that I got is The Conversation. Good. Excellent.

I have 5 seconds starting now. Crimson Tide. Oh, good. I'm gonna go I'm gonna stay in the Tony Scott here and go to Envy and the State. Travis shaking his head.

I don't know anything. Travis looks uncomfortable. Well, we're gonna have to ask you to leave the show. The conversation. You know what?

The conversation too. I'll just put a word in the cage. The conversation too would have been a good guess. Was he in the bird cage? Yeah.

He was. He's that. He is. He's that in the birdcage. The birdcage.

Okay. So I lose. Travis, what was your first experience with Days of Thunder? And having just watched it, what is your current rating of Days of Thunder? Okay.

I grew up watching this movie. I had we're we're all from Washington state, I think. Right? You're all from Washington state. So I grew up in a really small town called Yelm Yeah.

I know. By Fort Lewis. Mhmm. And my best friends at the time were gearheads, whatever, problematic in a lot of ways, but they were my best friends. And this movie was wasn't just like, a lot of people will say movies on loop to, like, emphasize that it was on all the time.

This movie was on loop in their VHS all day every day, and so is a way of life. It was all and and it wasn't no one liked it. No one thought it was funny. Everyone thought it was the coolest thing you could do. So, anyway, let's watch this on a loop.

It was on loop. And these guys, like, they were all gearheads. They were, super blue collar guys, and they're they're like you know, the dad had a garage with 9 cars that didn't run and whatever. Work. So when I was a kid, this movie was 5 out of 5, but in a sincere, this is what being cool is like.

This is what Yeah. This is what it means to be a grown up with a cool job Sure. Is you get to be Coltrickle. And then 15 years go by and I watch it again, and I think I still gonna give it 5 stars for a different reason, which is that, I found myself the entire time I was watching it. I think I think I'm too attached because Liz would be like, this is kinda dumb, and I would be like I would pause it.

And I would go, no. It's not dumb, and here's why it's not dumb. Because Cole told whatever. So the whole time, I was just like I was being its cheerleader, and so I think I I can't get anything less than 5 stars because I fucking love this movie. Even though it's got tons of problems and it's not a good movie in terms of mechanically speaking, it's not a good movie.

Shit. Technically speaking, it's not a good movie, but I'll I will die on this hill. I think this is the hottest somewhere in the in the neighborhood, the hottest take we've had on this program. It might be. Oh, no.

It's gonna go clockwise to me. I had the super flow car, the mellow yellow car. It's gonna be one. I had the Chevy city car, the whole thing when I was a kid. I watched it a couple times.

It's a well, no. Was I in my forties then? Oh, he's doing this joke. Sorry. Are you in your forties now?

Wait. No. No. Because I'm now I'm 19. Okay.

He's he's Benjamin Buttoning it. Right. So I'm Benjamin Burasing it. It's June 27, 1912. The Bicurious case.

Oh, Benjamin. Bruce burrito. The Bicurious case. So, when I was young and up until I've I've watched this recently, this was like a 4 this was a 4 sponsor film for me. I had good I had a good level sponsorship.

Having rewatched it last night, and something that we talked about, something that I'm loving in my home is that I have, like, a surround setup that I really am enjoying a lot now. And I felt like I had to watch this movie louder than I wanted to, which kinda sucked. Also, the movie is written okay. I liked it better as Top Gun, but I don't like the execution of the movie. But I'm gonna pull my 5th element rule.

I give this movie 2 sponsorships with a Melo Yol. I know, Travis, you were using 5 Melo Yolos, but I was adding a can of Melo Yol to say, like, I think you should watch this movie. This is not good. But there is no reason to not watch this movie. It is something to behold.

Yeah. Is is that not the what the rating system is? Is the rating system, like, do I think this is a is a 5 out of 5 movie It's up to you. Like Oppenheimer where it has to be technically No. It's up it's totally up to you.

You can make it with a one. Good movie. It's up to you. No. I think he has a we we both have our own, like, these aren't good movies that we like.

Okay. Yeah. But everybody ranks it in their own way. Okay. Yeah.

I'm standing by it with my middle earlates. I I it's one of those things that You stand by it. It's like, I could easily flip this to a 4 star movie, but it's, like, if somebody were, like, give me a 4 star race car movie, I'd be, like, Ford v Ferrari. Do I think Yeah. Days of Thunder holds up to that from, like, all the technical, like, used used Oppenheimer's like, Days of Thunder can't compete with that.

So that's the way I look at it, I guess. So I have no history with this movie. Nice. Really? Never seen it.

Huge Tony Scott fan. Huge Cruise fan. Odd that it was sort of a blank space in my in my viewing history. I will say I think a reason is because I think racing movies like NASCAR is probably at the on the lowest end of my list of things that I Yeah. Of sports movies?

Have interest in. Yeah. Just in general, like, I'd never I could just watch Cool Runnings again. I just I've never been I've never been a Cars person. I've never been in a NASCAR.

I've that's just never been my my thing. Ciao. Never been a Cars person? Oh, well, no. Huge Cars 2.

Wow. Didn't he just say didn't he just say you drive a 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid, and you're saying you're not a car person? It's a Ford Hybrid Escape. Oh, that could never mind. Yeah.

He's yeah. I thought it was a Fusion. Like, Ben's head lit on fire a moment ago. When when Travis said Ford Fusion, Ben looked like he was gonna explode. No.

That that was the v eight. That was a big block. I'm a I'm a tiny SUV guy. That's, anyway, I went into this again, I went into this not knowing what the general public thought about it, not knowing what you thought about it. I assumed as I started it, it's Tony Scott and it's Tom Cruise reuniting.

And after Tom Cruise or after Top Gun, I'm like, oh, this must be great. I love Top Gun. That said, it it was it was Spit it out. It's okay to hate it. No.

So I I came away with 2 and a half monkeys fucking a football. That is the best line in the movie. I I was at a 3 for most of the movie, which is That is not the Foley people, by the way. The the audio you're hearing is Wow. Yeah.

He's An actual siren. Mhmm. You're a ventriloquist, and you can make police sirens. Using that surround sound. Somewhere my cat just went, what the fuck is that?

Is that a cat or a hoodie? I I almost went with 3, honestly. I was so close to 3, and something at the end just kinda like nicked me down a little bit. Oh, was I could I I can only imagine what it was. But but I didn't realize how many like, I could not stop comparing it to Top Gun.

Yeah. And I did not know that going into it that it was gonna be that sort of like a new skin on the same thing. That's the first time it's hit me that this way. Like, where I was just like, oh, man. I'm like, there are scenes almost that look like they were plucked from Top Gun and just put in this movie.

Like Did they just with Tom Cruise with, like, a wig on or something? Carrie Ellis just take Val Kilmer's hair and put it on? Yeah. I was like, they even, like, tried to get another Iceman, kind of. Yeah.

Which is very strange. During the movie, I was saying that's Iceman. That's Goose. Yeah. To like explain who is who in this movie.

Yeah. They spared Goose this time. They did. That was nice. John c Riley was kind of a red herring of a goose.

He wasn't a goose. No. He was a red herring. He was a red herring of a goose. A red goose?

A red goose. So anyway It's a different type of foul. That's where I'm at. I'm at I'm at 2 and a half, monkey's fucking a football. But I'm willing to wiggle in either way, to be honest.

So am I. Like, I I think Travis seems, like, very entrenched. Like, I feel like we're wasting our time. Let's just not talk to him and just talk to him. But I feel like Travis could potentially wiggle us up.

I could I could wiggle any of that. I gotta be honest with you. I'm looking, and I think you're right. I already I already established that all 3 of us have daddy issues. Right?

So I already know the angle. Please be my new daddy. But, yeah, this is the same movie as Top Gun. It's the same movie as cocktail. Yeah.

Right? Where it's like a it's a really, really talented brash shithead that needs discipline. And then, you know, almost gets himself killed, meets a girl that helps him solve his daddy issues. And then he doesn't learn much, but he wins. But he does have sex.

Yeah. But he does have sex, and he does do some cool, sweet and low packet drifting, that that scene. Yeah. But, yeah, it's the same movie. But but my thing is, like, it it worked.

Right? Like, it worked in cocktail. It worked in Top Gun, obviously. It it worked ish. I I didn't know the numbers were that bad for this movie when it came out.

I thought it was a little more successful than that. But the work, my numbers are very good. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder where it was watched a lot if it wasn't I mean, Tom Cruise is, like, such a brand.

He's a he's a box office entity unto himself. Even, like, at this point in time, I think. Because you've done Top Gun, which was like a global phenomenon. I'm sure I think he got more popular after he had his oral surgery. I miss Tom Cruise's original brows, nose, and teeth.

Yeah. Personally. How old is he in this movie? He's not in his 90, late twenties. Yeah.

He's a child in this movie. Yeah. He looks very young. Yeah. Yeah.

Which he still does. I mean, dude There's such there's, like, I there's a lot of things to not like about Tom Cruise, but he there is a like, he's magic in this movie. Because he's a little he's a kid, and he's so mesmerizing in this movie. He's playing and he it's not it's not a very complicated character. He's not he's not acting very hard.

He's a movie he's a movie star. Yeah. This was the movie that I felt like he was like, I I am a movie star. I feel my movie stardom. I know my movie stardom.

My people know my movie stardom. Where to go? I mean, he reminds me in terms of, like, understanding what they deliver, like Harrison Ford did when he, like, was younger and, like, came up. They understand what they can do on on screen Yeah. And, like, to to a to a very nuanced degree, and they understand how to sell.

And I think, like Harrison Ford said, like, I'm terrified of making a bad movie, and I feel like Tom Cruise is the same way. Yeah. Sure. I I think, like you said, they blow they pour their heart and soul, their blood, sweat, and tears into it. Before we get into this movie, this movie does star Robert Duvall and Michael Rooker and features Tom Cruise.

Right? Yeah. Did I I don't think that's the order. Robert Duvall is the star of this movie. Robert Duvall stars in this fucking movie.

Oh, yeah. And, like, the supporting actor for me is Michael Rooker. And then, like, a distant third, like, maybe tied with Nicole Kidman, who shows up 54 fucking minutes in Yeah. She's in, like, the 3rd act. Yeah.

Like, they're, like, tied for, like, 3rd billing. That's how it works, like, in my mind. Yeah. Again, I think I think Tom Cruise, it's it's so hard to ignore in all this stuff. But you understand Tom Cruise's character in the first three minutes, and he doesn't grow, and there's no arc for him.

He doesn't learn anything. He just gets lucky and then gets unlucky and then he gets lucky again and that's the end of the movie. That's very fair. And I don't really like Hib's character that much. Like if I, you know, if he was a person in the world, but something about Robert Duvall's character, Harry Hogg.

Endlessly luck penis. For Endlessly lovable. Yeah. So lovable. Well, when Carrie always shows up and they're like, hey.

This guy's gonna be helping us out. Like, Tom Cruise totally blows him off. Like, fuck this guy. Like, doesn't wanna give him the time of day. I mean, he's on the phone.

Maybe they're being rude. Should we But I I didn't feel that bad when Carrie always was like, dude, you're kind of a dick to me, so I'm gonna ruin your life. Because that's how I handle my shit. I think should we talk chronologically here? Yeah.

I think we should. I think we should too. I'm jumping around. I'm a jumper. So the movie starts with, many confederate flags.

3 in the first minute. 3 in the first minute. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, oh, okay.

The South Shore is where we're starting. Yeah. I'm like, like, I'm like, oh, my family It's race car, dude. It's race car culture. So I was I was like, whatever.

Yeah. Like, didn't they just make it illegal in NASCAR to fly the Confederate flag? I believe so. I think it was a couple of years ago. They were like, quit doing this.

Very illegal. Country is like, just now? Yeah. Is this your favorite race car movie? It is my and I think it's the superior race car movie.

That you could definitely have that out as far as We try to establish that in the first minute of the movie. I'm trying to tell you that's Well, we had Quentin Tarantino's curiosity. Now we have a He's a tungsten. Why y'all wearing socks? You're glorious bastard.

Get those socks off. Yeah. So this is your favorite race car movie, though? Yeah. Definitely.

It's one of my all time. I mean, again, I I'm very, very biased. Going into this, I thought I would watch it again knowing all of the things I know now about movies and see right through it. But I just there's so much childhood reverence that I have for this movie, whether it deserves it or not, but I I couldn't see past it. The whole time I was just sitting there.

Again, I was just defending it to Liz, being like, no. This is a fucking perfect movie. It's interesting to me, like, right when the movie starts, like, they want to establish, like, Richard Petty exists in this universe, like and they throw him out of the race immediately. And, like, he's, like, a non factor, but they wanna make sure that you know Yeah. Again, not in He's, like, the brand of the car.

Car person, but, like, I was, like, oh, these must be real racers. Couple of them are. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Richard Petty's name came up, like, 4 times in the first in the opening sequence.

Yeah. And they never again came up. I can probably name 2 race car drivers in my entire in my entire catalog of Okay. Dale Earnhardt and Dale Earnhardt Junior. Wow.

What a Dick Trickle. That's a real person. Real race car driver. Dick Trickle? Dick Trickle.

He was born Richard Trickle, and that guy said, you know what? Choose violence. So when this movie so when this starts Daddy issues that? It just this is where I was like, wait. What is happening?

Because we just get thrown in with no background in to to anybody. I was like it was baffling to me. Like, I'm just supposed to assume I'm just gonna jump in and go for this ride immediately. It's it's like pieces of a race Yeah. And then you're, like, in a field Yeah.

With 2 guys you don't know, and Randy Quaid's like, I wanna build a car and see through time into the FBI's vault of secrets or whatever. He wanted to go to Area 51. Yeah. Yeah. Really fast.

Well and he's like, I wanna build a car. And this is the thing that, like, Robert Duvall, like, through this is like, you can't afford this. What you're talking about, like, sponsoring a NASCAR team, you can't afford it. And apparently, he can afford it for many. And he works for which car company?

He owns City Chevrolet. City Chevrolet. Yeah. A dealership. There's so much in this movie that they don't explain.

Or a network of dealerships. That's the thing is, like, even when Robert Duvall is, like, you don't have the money. Like, apparently, Randy Quaid's, like, no. I can do this for, like, 20 races before we have sponsorship. No problem.

Yeah. I Yeah. So that I think, like, while the opening song is still going, you established that it's a race car movie that Quaid and Duvall would like, they get so much exposition out of the way before that first song stops. And so, like, you get you're at, like, minute 3, and you're like, okay. I'm at I I could be in the second act already.

And for better or for worse, you'd like, it it just gets it all out of the way, and you can start really diving into Cole Trickle. Well, I before we move too fast, like, we find out in terms of Robert Duvall, it's like Robert Duvall is fucking Pete Carroll. Like, he left to avoid an investigation. Like, he's like, oh, bad shit's happening. I'm out.

How does that relate to Pete Carroll? Because Pete Carroll did that at USC. Oh, USC. I was like, are you kidding me? Got it.

I was I was confused because he just got, like, a He just retired. So Or yeah. Retired. Yeah. Yeah.

Was encouraged to retire. Yeah. Yeah. But the the as you were saying, like, with introducing Cole Trickle, like, of course, like, he shows up after we established, like, Michael Rooker in the Exxon car, and this car has been set up perfectly to run this track. And Tom Cruise shows up on a motorcycle with mine as mine as well be a jean jacket with, like, tassels and, like, bolos and shit on it and no helmet.

And got a motorcycle into a race track. Yeah. He just drove right on. He just drove right in. Live racetrack.

Yeah. The thing that I just kept getting I was like, where are the repercussions in this movie? Where are, like, no consequences. There's no consequences. He's a talented white guy in the nineties.

There's no consequences for him at all. Yeah. This is, like, this is, you know, the Top Gun entrance, this whole thing, he drives the car. He's fucking amazing. Best time ever.

This is Tom Cruise doing the Steven Seagal thing. Like, I'm the fucking shit. I'm the best at everything. Like, let's let's fucking roll. I love that Michael Rooker sits on his motorcycle.

Yes. Dude, it's all a big dick this this whole movie is about machismo and masculinity. Yeah. It's a big dick measuring. He also says something that it always stuck with me, which was, I forget the exact phrase, but he says, like, if you bend this bitch at all talking about the car I'll I'll rip your balls off.

Who has ever referred to a car as a bitch? Who's ever been, like, hey. I got my I got this sweet ride. Look at this bitch. No one's no one's like, this is, like, there's a lot of moments in this movie where you can tell the people that wrote this movie because it's a movie about the South, about car culture, and the people that wrote the movie seem like In America.

They ain't from the South and they don't know how cars work. And so there's a lot of things in this movie where they're like that yeah. Bend that don't bend that bitch. No one's ever said that. No.

Well, and they they make sure to always be like, the quarter panel, the side panel Yeah. The coil, the percolator accelerator jumper mugger Yeah. When they're at when they're at the pit when they're at the pit and the car is off racing, he always says something like, the side panels come off. I'm like, how the fuck do you know that? Yeah.

What what are you used to say? You can't see it. What do you you're not looking at anything. Well, Cole Tripple doesn't even know what it's called. He just goes, ah, that part fell off.

Yeah. He he does at a point, like, kind of admits, and we'll get to it. Like, I can drive. I'm no, like, fucking, rocket scientist brain surgery and an engine mechanic in these terms. Mhmm.

But Rowdy kind of is that. And after Cole runs these incredible laps on this test run that he's proving himself to drive for City Chevrolet and Mhmm. Independence I don't know. Cousin Eddie. But, but he, Michael Rooker's like, cool.

Let's see you do it on a track with your car against other fucking drivers. Good for you, pal. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, yeah.

He's a 100% right. Yeah. And so he he's been there and done it. I, was obsessed with seeing Michael Rooker with hair. I thought he was a man, he's so good in this movie.

I don't remember. I I like, everything I think of him in, he doesn't have hair. So He's also because he's so relatively young in this. And it's funny because he looks because part of you is like, oh, he looks so young. But then you're like, oh, he looks 60.

Like, he's one of those guys that looks has looked old. Is there a Michael Rucker line? He's got, yeah, city miles. He's got hard city miles on them. Wilford Brimley and Maureen Freeman.

How many people are on this line now that we've played? Isn't he also I know he's Dom Treddo's dad in Fast 9. Is he? Yeah. I haven't seen Fast 9.

In the flashback. We worked on Fast 9. I haven't seen Fast 9. Oh, no. He's not his dad.

He's someone who works at the same race car shop or something. I don't know. He's a father figure. His family. Dom's got daddy issues, man.

He needs some money. The best sisters do and the best people. Alright? So speaking of fucking people with daddy issues and whatnot, like, obviously, Robert Duvall is the father figure for Tom Cruise in this film, as well as, Bucky, bordy, birdy, birdy, John c Riley. Doctor's doctor Steve Brule.

Yes. Now I'll never get it. Yes. So You get it once. Bug brother bug.

So he's he's, like, the father figure for these people. And we go into one of my favorite sequences of the movie, like, the kind of romance with the car that Robert Duvall has. Oh, that's how he talks to the car. And he's gonna build it and everything. And also, like, let's keep in mind, the top of a NASCAR vehicle is a fiberglass thing that is snapped onto the frame.

Like, it's not something that is, like Carved. Or whatever they're doing. I think back then it was sheet metal. I I think maybe the first one you do, at least. But, like, how many it would be so time consuming to build that car 50 times.

Yeah. I don't know anything about NASCAR, but I bet it was sheet metal back in the day. That that whole sequence, I feel like that The first one at least probably was. Maybe. Again Could be all?

Talk speaking out of I I have no idea what I'm talking about. But as far as montages go, I was when I remember when I was a kid, I wanted that montage to be so much longer because that's the cool part. That's like you're getting the team together. Right? You you know, you're you're building the car.

You're doing all these, like, stupid incremental things. And it was, like, 90 seconds. He's like, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna cut a quarter inch off you and shape you like a bullet. And I'm like, hell, yeah. Here we go.

Yeah. I'm about to build a car. And then it's suddenly just painted and it's on the track. And you go, oh. Yeah.

It's a little wrenching. And also, like, I couldn't wait for that to end because I fucking hate that music. God, that music is stupid. I could not believe when you said this was Hans Zimmer because I hated the music. The music is I really dislike the music in this movie.

It's just it's just it's just like 1990 in a nutshell. This was an aggressive push into that. I didn't realize how nineties this movie is in a lot of ways. It's icy cold synth. It's so icy, chilly cold.

It's also funny because I bet they were all kicking themselves being like, can we just use the Top Gun soundtrack? Like, it works so well for this. So as you say that, and as we're talking about, you know, Don Simpson, Jerry Bruckheimer movies and stuff, give me fucking Harold Faltermeyer for this movie if you're gonna go the synth route. Like, give me the guy who did Top Gun. Yeah.

Like like, let's and Beverly Hills Cop. Let's do it all the way. Go hard into it. Because it works in Top Gun. Yeah.

It's fucking great. And this is Top Gun on the ground. What's that much you're trying to do the same thing with the music just like you, like, flip the top side to the bottom side. Right? Yeah.

It's the same like, this is when we get into that, also, that crazy long, like, racing like, leave it to the leave it just too long. Leave it to the fucking professionals. Racing montage of him just failing or, like, spinning out and Right. Like, not listening and And then ice cream. And ice cream.

The ice cream happens. Yeah. They're like, bro, if you're not, like, what are we even here for? We might as well just take a fucking ice cream bake. I'm gonna have a soda, then we'll make a phone call, then we'll be back.

And the best part is that, like, at this point, this much story has happened and you're you're at, like, minute 9 or something. Like, so much is happening so quickly in the beginning of this movie. And I wonder if that's part of this the strategy of the movie is to just be like, just, like, like, hit you with shit constantly. Yeah. Yeah.

It's you definitely hit the ground running in this movie, and you spend the whole time trying to catch up with the whole song. Merk a running. It does. It keeps Merk a running. Daddy issues more than anything else.

I mean, at least in my existence in life. Keeping this podcast running. Yeah. Dude, we also now it's like, you guys were like a monkey fuck in a football. Yeah.

Such a good line. It's great. Oh my god. I died at that, man. I I ran that back like 4 times.

And I was like, dude, I miss you, mister Quinn. Mhmm. Before you were went off the crazy lane. Yeah. Yeah.

The meeting afterward too where Tom Cruise finally how many cars did you guys destroy before Tom you had this meeting and Tom Cruise was finally like, well, I don't know shit about cars. Okay? Yeah. It was like it was a dozen probably cars. They were a $1,000,000 in the red.

And he said, you know what? Actually, I should tell you something. I ain't know how cars work. I just know how to look good driving them. Mhmm.

I yeah. It looks great driving them. Yeah. He does. The, Surprised that he lets them put a helmet on him.

I know. Cover up. It's fact his hair was fantastic. He doesn't wear a helmet when he rides a motorcycle ever. No.

No. I will say that the when his head his face was all dirty from the race and, like, his his high beam ass teeth came out Yeah. That should have been the poster right there because he that was like a that was like an like, that was a dentist ad. It was it was like, hurt your eyes. Speaking of teeth, did you see Joe Coy's teeth on the Golden Globes?

Oh, man. No. I saw a lot of I I didn't watch Golden Globes. I saw a lot of, the fallout from Well, he he he crashed and burned, but his teeth were, like, so professionally whitened. Yeah.

Glowing like the heavens. That I was like, Jesus Christ. Yeah. Flying too close to the sun. Yeah.

I this is when Cruz is like, I'm a fucking idiot. I don't know anything. This conversation goes on to, like, dinner in a bar. Mhmm. And then he takes a car out for a few hours because he's like, I don't know anything.

I'm a fool. And it's like, oh, this isn't your Steven Seagal movie. You're admitting, like, you're human and you are fallible. But it only takes 2 hours to become an expert. So Well, so I guess to push back, he does learn he does learn to listen to Harry.

He does. Yeah. I think that I think if the person about the story was trying to explain to you, I think what they would I think that what they were going after was that he was used to open wheel cars where you can just go full tilt the whole time, and he had to learn to bring that back. And but he has so much fucking masculine bullshit, and he's arguing with with Harry Hogg so much that he can't get that through his head. But I think they do such a bad job of of, like, isolating that as the problem.

Oh, yeah. But unlike Sagal, he does like, that's his big fault. Like, his big scary, his big secret, the huge skeleton in his closet is that he doesn't know much about cars, which is such a funny, not horrible thing to like, that's so not a weakness to be like. Correct. To be like, yeah.

I'm really good at driving these. I certainly know they technically work. Like, that's his huge fault. It's just such a funny small fault. And and, like, so easy to just be like, hey, will you just tell us if it feels like it's pulling down the left?

Yeah. Oh, I can fix this. Just just let's make a language. It's like if you already have this crazy, like, like, inherent talent Yeah. Like, all you have to do is learn to communicate, and it's done.

Yeah. I okay. So I guess I I'm thinking about what my biggest issue with this movie is. And I feel like and I I I think I pinpoint. I don't think Cole Trickle is very charismatic.

He's not. He's the 3rd or 4th most important interesting person in the movie. Like, I I think Maverick is way more charismatic. Sure. I think Ethan Hunt is way more charismatic.

Yeah. I wonder what it is about because, yeah, he isn't as likable in this. Like, really, it's it's you're right. I think the movie is it's a it's a Duval movie with with Cruise as support, but I think that's why. I think it's because Cruise doesn't do the thing that he's so good at normally, which is just be fucking the most likable thing on screen at all times.

But he does so well in movies that hold a bunch of a lot of tension. You know, like, he's so that's why he's like the mission impossible movies just keep succeeding is because he can tell you this shit's gone tits up in in just a a look. I feel like in this one, we don't really get much tension. The the stakes, as you're talking about Top Gun, in Top Gun, somebody dies. Mhmm.

And you have to deal with that. Yeah. In Days of Thunder, somebody's like, I don't wanna go to the doctor. Like, I'm a race car driver. I can't admit I'm afraid.

Like, if I admit I'm afraid, I'm dead. Like and it's like, oh, okay. Like, it those stakes for me are are much different or, like, this guy is going to have a sponsorship or not versus, like, are we gonna go to war with Russia? Well, I think that's the thing. It's like it's not a it's not a it's not a it's not a it's not a one to one because Yeah.

I mean, I honestly I recently rewatched Top Gun before I went and saw Top Gun Maverick, and even that movie came down a little bit for me. Mhmm. The first Top Gun because I think just like in this movie, I think Tony Scott shoots the, like, the race car driving and the planes fucking incredibly. I think he's really good at shoot like, I think they look great. But that kinda seems like what those 2 movies are like, this one and that one, that's what those movies are.

It's just that those things happen and then, like, the stuff that happens on the side with the characters is kinda like a second yeah. It's second fiddle to the to the action that's happening. I I think that that probably happened a lot in this. I mean, there were some those are such different animals to shoot too. Right?

Obviously, for obvious reasons, but there's some armed car stuff in this movie. NASCAR is inherently boring. I I imagine there's probably not a lot of people listen to the show that are big NASCAR fans, so I'm not sure if he's lost a bunch. Let us know, Mark. Oh, your friend, little Yeah.

You're gonna get one really Oh. Mad angel fire. Yeah. Oh, sorry. I oh, hi, Mark.

Okay. I was always going well. Yeah. Oh, you're feeling a little kid? To to reemphasize your point, I think this this movie is an excuse for montages.

It's just like it's like the story in a porn just to get to the montage. And so you have to deal with so that's why the whole begin, like Show me all the good parts back to back. Yeah. Just just, you know, you you fast forward to just the really good scenes in this movie. Yeah.

It could have been a thing in porn where it's like this is where we start with oral. This is where we get into the movie. The the spikes on the thing. He's going to spike. I'm your stepsister.

Let me second. Why is it always so funny? That's how it goes. Right? What's like this movie?

It's like it like we were saying, it glazes over, like, the, like, maybe more important story points. Like, there's a part where they're in the truck now and Robert Duvall and Tom Cruise rubbing a back and forth after Duval's like, you can win this race, take him from the outside, and he does. Oh oh, yeah. Okay. So that that was, like, what I felt like was, like, the climax.

I felt like that was what the movie was going towards Yeah. Like, the goal, and then it happened Sure. 30 minutes in the movie. And I was like, oh. It happens.

He wins a race. Right? And then Tom Cruise is like, you could have killed me. And Duvall is like, well, I had the confidence Right. That you'd make it because you're such a talented, you know, fearless guy.

And Tom Cruise is like, I have daddy issues. And Robert Duvall is like, get some lady to grab your wiener, and you'll be fine. Like, that's kind of like at least in Top Gun, it's like you're fine against a legend, a ghost, like a hero, whatever. Here, it's just like, you know, let's say you're a shim sham or, like, sorry sorry your dad thinks you suck. Like Again, I still feel like we're we're trying to, like, layer like, peel back this character of Cole, and I still don't really know anything about it.

No. Yeah. I I don't disagree with that. The things that make this movie great aren't obviously aren't character. Like, it's not I don't think it's a character based.

Sure. I think it's just a sexy it just says an excuse to, like, have a dog in the fight for a crazy fucking really destructive, like, would get you kicked out of NASCAR race. I think that's the magic of it. I will say this sex scene is better than the top gun sex scene. Oh, yeah.

A very low bar. Well, and it's like Cole gets in a crash, like, a horrible crash. Yeah. And we find out, you know, afterward that he may have some, like, vision loss, temporary brain issues, whatever, as well as Michael Rooker. And we get into, like, the world fucking championships of wheelchair racing on ESPN 8 The Oak Show.

And we meet doctor Chase Meridian. I mean, doctor some Hey, lady. Grab my dick. Hey, doctor Chase Meridian. Right?

That's what you do. Yeah. You idiot. And whatever Val Kilmer says to her, you fucking moron. Right?

It's it's fine. She's doctor Chase Meridian. It's Okay. Doctor Chase Meridian. Yeah.

I do love I actually love when Fred Dalton Thompson shows up, the head of NASCAR Big John Penis. And he's like, you guys gotta stop rubbing. I don't care if rubbing's racing. But, yeah, the rubbing's just one more time. You're freaking done.

Time. You're never coming back. Doctor Lewicky. Lewicky, thank you. Great name.

Not penis. Weird. Not penis. Harry Hogg, by the way. The names in this movie are so good.

Also, was this before Nicole could do an American accent? I don't know. I has she done a lot of movies where it's just her straight? Pretty young. She's like a baby in this shape.

She's like 22 or something. Yeah. I know what she did. Met in in this movie. Yeah.

I'm sure. Did it go this one then Far and Away then Eyes Wide Shut? And that was it. Liz was looking it up last night. Were they married through that whole all of those?

I don't know if they were they must have been dating. Do you think she regrets this movie? Yikes. I don't know. Dude, her monologue in this movie is pretty fucking great.

Like, she does a pretty good job. Of having to meet Tom Cruise. Mhmm. Have you seen that? I don't know.

It always reminds me of the photo of her it's like fucking 20 years old now, but the photos are signing her divorce papers. Yeah. Yeah. When Robert Duvall apologizes for Cole To the doctor. To the doctor and says, like, she's feeling real ornery or amarys.

Real ornery. Do you guys have a a word for that? I'd say amarys. Like, when he says Amarys? Real ornery.

Like, yeah. Because that's, like, we're all from Washington Yeah. But I had a grandparent that lived outside of Washington, and he would say ornery. Ornery? I thought ornery meant like grumpy.

Feisty, like sassy. Yeah. Yeah. Ornery for me never Particularly. My dad's side of the family is from Missouri, and so they all have a weird way of talking.

But, ornery meant, like, you just kinda beat you stubborn. Yeah. You're an asshole. And then that was always feisty. I was like, does he mean amorous?

It seems like he means amorous. Yeah. I don't I don't know. Horny? Yeah.

I thought I thought it was horny. Yeah. Well, sometimes you gotta do a little rubbing. Mhmm. You gotta swap painting on what I'm saying.

You gotta swap a little paint. They say loose as fast, but on the edge of out of control. That wheelchair phrase is ridiculous. That's, dude, the top three of the nurse scenes in any movie of all time. The nurse getting, like, spun around and, like, like, oh, no.

I had to go to YouTube and watch the Mac and me, like, blah. The fuck. And the alien, like, what? I couldn't help myself. I just, like, it was weird to pause the movie, watch that, go back to the movie, and very shortly be in something that's pretty akin to that scene of those 2 racing the rental cars with the funk music.

I They basically get reprimanded Yeah. Right, by the, I don't know, CEO or something of this company. The head of NASCAR, like the commissioner of NASCAR. And says, like, they have to come to this dinner and they have to drive together. Yeah.

And I love that the funk music is cutting between Andy Williams. Andy Williams. You don't need to pull over. Yes, we do. I didn't think he was gonna do Moonriver.

But then bam, sick and encore. Point, he's out of the hospital. Right? So he asks her out. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, we've got a new villain and a new romance. We're 54 minutes into the movie, brand new movie. Well, we haven't we haven't met Ellis yet, I don't think. Too close to call?

Yeah. I think it's like they're back to back. Like, Kidman and Ellis are like boom boom. Yeah. Yeah.

Because he's on the phone trying to get her home number, which is also he is so problematic in this movie. Oh, yeah. One thing, speaking of the hospital really quick, that we didn't address is, did you guys notice the size of the fruit bowl in the middle? Oh, yeah. It was huge.

There's a lot of grapes. Yeah. It was, like, 300 grapes. It was, like, it was it was like a punch bowl full of fruit. Anyway, it was weird.

Noticed that. Somebody from props must have just thought that Went hard. Went hard. Went hard in the paint. They went hard in the paint.

Went hard in the grapes. And like, see, how tall are you? Like, what like That never pays off. Says that? Yeah.

I love that she does. The dick measuring just keep. So then yeah. So he he asked her out in the parking lot which seems very uncomfortable. Yeah.

She seems like she's, like, wants to not have anything to do with him. It does. She drives away like 3 times and keeps getting in the way. And he's like, can I take can I see you again? And she's like, you will.

I'm your doctor. Yeah. And then like He starts rolling the window up. Yeah. And he goes, no.

No. No. No. I'm Tom Cruise. Yeah.

He's like, but I'll get you off work. No problem. Yeah. And then and then they and then he gets in the car with Brooker and they go rent a car Mhmm. And then the car race to the restaurant goes into a place.

Like, I wanted it to keep cutting back and them to be in a different environment. Like, where's the beach? We're we're in the jungle. Santa Monica. We're in the Arctic.

I'm pretty sure they're in Santa Monica. Space. Yeah. I was like, wait. Did you shoot it normally?

Here or some of that. Right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. That was supposed to be in Daytona still.

Right? Right? I think. But they had to shoot because there was yeah. There was, like, the beach scene.

I think they went under the boardwalk at the Yeah. At Santa Monica. And I was like, how did you get on the beach? It was a really long drive. That's why they were I mean, they were late.

Where where where are the repercussions for this? These cars are destroyed. Did you get insurance? I have so many questions. You you assume NASCAR got the insurance on those babies, or they were loaners from NASCAR, which means they were gonna get No.

They rented the other one from the fucking rental. They stopped there. Rounding could afford it. He's building a $10,000,000 dude Rounding made of money. And they saved so much money on this movie like they did with Top Gun by just reusing the same shots from different angles and playing them backward.

Like, so they could afford it. No problem. How much do you think you guys do you guys I'm jumping around so much. No. This is going backwards now, which I feel is safer ground though.

In the beginning when the all the all the, you know, the establishing shots of the of the tracks and stuff, do you think that was super sped up? Like, did that look really fake to you guys, or was it looked really undercranked and, like I didn't notice. The the speed some of the speed of the racing in particular Yeah. Looks like it's been manipulated to me at some point in editing. This movie, like, we're we're about to get to some of some of these things, but the editing of this movie at times can be, like, extremely fucking jarring.

Yeah. I have trouble sometimes, like, figuring out where we are or why or how we got there or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. I think I think it was a 4 hour long movie, and they said, I I think it was 2 separate movies almost.

And they're like, we can smash this into one thing. Like, all of a montage. All of a sudden out of nowhere, you're, like, nude in bed with Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman staring at me with their dead eyes. But she's like, you're not gonna do something weird with my leg, are you? And then he immediately does.

Oh, wait. But first she has to first she has to examine him. Oh, yeah. Sure. There is an exam.

He wants to get frisky in the exam. He just keeps forcing kisses on her. And then after the exam, she's like he's like butthurt that she didn't, like, react. They have the top gun Charlie moment where she's like, I couldn't say that you were right on, like, because I everyone would know I'm falling for you. Like, it's like a version of that.

Yeah. He says, why don't you ignore me? And she goes, I'm not. And then then he busts out the sweet and low packets and teaches her about drafting, which is something he just invented. On her thigh.

On her thigh. Yeah. You're not gonna do something weird on my leg, are you? No? Okay.

So here's something weird. Do you have any, sugar substitute packets by chance? No reason? Yeah. Let me tell you about this thing I just invented.

Yeah. Dude, were you having coffee? Oh, on that note too, when Tom Cruise is dressing that guy's coffee while he's on the phone with a little kid I love that too. Good little bit of, like, physical comedy and timing. And that guy had a great nonverbal comedy.

That's wonderful. Yeah. Like, he's really good. Way to go, like, dude 2 from Days of Fuck. Yeah.

Way to go coffee guy 3. Yeah. But but Michael Rooker has, like, a serious it's, like, CTE issues or something. Right? They show up on completely unconcerned about head injuries at all.

They show up on his hog, on his, motory hog, not his hairy hog, with no helmets on. That's true. Which I believe that this doctor is, like, a little bit about living on the edge. Like, maybe she would do that, but she'd no fucking way would she let him. Well, he's got a dime cussed, which means he can't get concussed again.

So he's he's fine. Like, once you have a concussion, there's a cool down period where you don't have to wear a helmet. Yeah. I think that's what it is. Yeah.

That's why they throw them right back to a football game. That's why they say, yeah. Get out there, take that helmet off. The Gary Busey rule. I hate about it.

They go, right away, coach. And then they run into the stands. Yeah. But, like, they're on Rowdy's boat. And, like, as you were saying, Ben, Rowdy starts falling apart.

I think my favorite scene in the movie is actually when they bring Rowdy back inside and Nicole Kidman's, like, testing him and Tom Cruise barfs. Yeah. And he's, like, fucking candy ass. Like, I faint and you puke. He gets sick in there.

Oh, he got sick in there. I thought that whole scene between the 3 of them was, like, pretty well acted. I it was a turn in the movie that I did not expect. I was like, oh, this has become like a, like a CTE warning film. Like Yeah.

So he he had they didn't say c it was just like they said hemorrhaging in the brain. Right. And that that was they had, like he'd say he had a had a busted blood vessel in his brain, and they wanna go in there with a naff. Should I let him? But he's he's out.

Right? So he can't race anymore. He can't race over on the story. Yeah. Well, I, real quick, I met Michael Rooker.

Oh, yeah. I was in audition I was in Austin, Texas auditioning for something. Mhmm. Apparently, we were at the same hotel, and he was chatting up a bunch of people and whatever. And we're just next to each other in the hotel lobby for a moment, and I'm like, hey.

I really enjoy your work, man. And he goes, oh, do you? Kind of in a, like, such as? And I go I go, yeah, dude. Days of thunder, Henry of a Portrait of a Serial Killer.

And he goes, really? And, like, kinda smiles like he was not expecting that. That's weird. And it's like, dude, he's fucking great in this movie. And if you haven't seen Henry Portrait of a serial killer and you can handle watching Yeah.

Very rough things that feel real, that's that's a good one. Speaking of I mean, it's very on brand for our sponsors because he has one of the best quotes from Guardians too. He might be your father, boy, but he ain't your daddy. I'm Mary Poppins, y'all. Mary Poppins, y'all.

That's my favorite. So one thing also we we skimmed over is that I don't know what it was, but before the, rental car incident, before the rental car montage Got it. Somehow. Yeah. By one of them being, like, 1% vulnerable and then them racing, they have become best friends.

So they show up at this dinner and they're suddenly besties. Roger Goodell is like the common enemy now or whatever. Because Roger Goodell They have like shared trauma because they both have a similar head injury. Well, I think it's they have like they did this thing. They're both, they know they recognize that they're both, like, have the same animal inside of them that they have to, like Yeah.

And they're men and they can't talk. They both have 2 wool. Too close to Cole? Yeah. Cole comes apart here.

This is where he's, like, I can't fucking car's not running right and blows engines and is like And they told us, like, Elvis is like, is this when we know there's another car racer that El Elvis has been established as his substitute as Cole got in that horrible wreck as Cole wins one race and the next edit is Cole Trickle who's won 5 of 6 races. And you're like, great. I had a great time watching none of that. Yeah. Yeah.

Thanks for letting me know announcer who is constantly spoon feeding me everything. I think his new big act there's a big pile up and the the according to the movie, the rule that NASCAR tells you to do, which sounds like bullshit, but according to the movie, you're supposed to just stay on the gas and stay high, and you'll get through it. And so that's the big Through the crash. Yeah, that's the big scary moment, right? There's a big pile up.

It's smoky. There's cars everywhere. That seems like a bad idea. Yeah, maybe slow down. You know?

Yeah, maybe go through it slow. They should have some kind of like a car that keeps pace. Oh, weird. When there's a wreck and then some kind of like cautionary lap, like flag maybe like a yellow flag or something. I'd like to do something.

I'll call Adam Silver. I'll call my dad. I'll call Adam Silver. I thought you said I thought you'd be like Nate Silver. Nate Sloego.

Statistician guy. Yeah. Gary Bettman. No one's favorite. Gary Busey.

Busey. It's ridiculous to me also the fucking Dread Pirate Roberts is just violation after violation after violation. As you wish, man. As you wish. Nobody can't as you wish.

But nobody cares. He has, like, what, like, 10 lines in this whole movie? Yeah. Well, I'm, like yeah. He's that's the thing is, like, this ultimate villain is massively, like, washed away.

It seems almost like they had intended for Rooker to be the villain, and then at some point that shifted, and they needed someone else. Yeah. Yeah. It it doesn't make much sense. But I I will say all you need to know, that what's his name is the the princess bride guy is the bad guy is those glasses.

He's wearing sunglasses that are little tiny spec They're like German sunglasses. They're like, they are. They're like the bad guy in Willy Wonka. They're like the golf stopper guy glasses. Oh, yeah.

Nice. And that's all you need. And we like, the whole the whole audience just knows immediately. Read the fucking that guy's bad. Yes.

Yes. That's a bad guy. He's got a smirk. His hair is too good. And Too blonde.

It's too Val Kilmery. I do. He does have, like, 15, 20 words in the whole movie. Yeah. He barely says anything.

Yeah. It's pretty fucking great when, Tom Cruise is, like, changed my fucking tires and just railroaded it. Just commit to crime? Like, where you're basically, like, oh, you're not only out of NASCAR, you're you're straight to jail. Yeah.

I was, like, why would he not be arrested? I have no clue. But it that moment fucking rules as an audience member. It's great. It was great.

Immediately fired. Like immediately arrested. Straight to jail. Yeah. Do not pass code.

Undercooked steak, straight to jail. Do not pass code. Overcooked steak, straight to jail. Attempted homicide? Straight to jail?

Straight to jail. Yeah. Yeah. Where it's like, apparently though, if you're Robert Duvall, involuntary manslaughter, no investigation. Just go on go on about your own life.

It'd be like Russell Wilson getting sacked and then coming back with a fucking baseball bat. He's, like, hitting the guy. Like, but Tring, just put the bat in my hand. It's all I need. Another Tony Scott movie, Last Boy Scout, a little bitch.

Okay. Yeah. Is that the one yeah. It's one of the opening scenes that is. I love that movie.

Favorite Tony Scott? It's high end trash. What's that? Favorite Tony Scott? Oh, boy.

Probably Crimson Tide, honestly. I think that movie's great. I don't know. Yo. You don't know?

I don't know. It's probably this one then. It's probably this one. Yeah. It sounds like.

Yeah. Ben? You know, I I got later, I really got into, like, I I know it's not as loved, but I loved Spy Game. Yeah. And I loved Man on Fire.

True romance is right there. True romance might be the best one. Right there. But, Travis, I'm with you on the, like, certain things have been quoted too much. Yeah.

And it wore on me a little bit. Where I true romance is maybe the better movie than Crimson Tide, but I would rather watch Crimson Tide. Crimson Tide's also great. That movie's fucking phenomenal. Here you go, baby.

I I loved Enemy of the State. I loved Spy Game, and I loved Man on Fire. I I used to watch those are the reasons I stole from Hollywood videos. I haven't seen Enemy of the State. I used to love Enemy of the State.

I've watched that a lot. Man. If you have not seen The Conversation I have not. With Gene Hackman Coppola. That is sometimes looked at as a Enemy of the State is sometimes looked at as a sequel Interesting.

To the conversation because Gene Hackman plays basically the same I think I will leave here with a lot of movies on my list. Yeah. Conversation is fantastic. Okay. This decision now that Cole is like out of NASCAR and just, like, off the fucking rails.

Yeah. I guess in floor is this a has anyone been to Florida? If someone isn't moving the way you want, do you just rear end them? It's Florida. The taxi cab just rear ends.

I mean, I played Vice City. You could you could do that. Yeah. You know, it's fair to that. 1 star maybe if they see you, and then you can just Yeah.

He just never got up to 5 stars. So Yeah. Trickle was just I see the FBI. Playing the 3 star no helicopters. No helicopters.

No. The my star rating was still at not even half. I was I'm fine. I that was probably the most problematic thing he did in the whole movie just because he so he's in a cab. He's mad.

He's fighting with, what's her name? Oh, god. Yeah. And she's like, let me out. Let me out.

He gets rear ended and he gets pissed off this guy behind him and then he just Liz described it as a grand mall road rage incident. I cracked up when you said that when we started recording. And he fucking loses all control and then so the the cab hits him, they honk, they get mad, the cab drives off and he chases him. And then so the the cab hits him, they honk, they get mad, the cab drives off and he chases him. And the kidman the off and he chases him.

And the Kidman the whole time is like, let me out. Let me out. Let me out. You know, for good reason because she's not buckled in and the guy's a maniac. That is terrifying.

Yeah. She can't. And then they drive and then she, you know, threatens to get out and he stops and they have a big conversation. But, like, that's fucked up. That's worse than trying to kill the driver.

Oh, yeah. I thought maybe you were gonna say how It is. When she's about to jump out of the car with the door open, that the most upsetting thing that's done in the movie is the cut that happens there. Because it goes from the door being opened and the car bouncing around to her just suddenly, like, out of the car and walking. And it's like, woah, fuck.

At this point, I felt like you've seen his true colors now, lady. Yeah. Go away. This guy this guy is toxic. Yeah.

She really He's got a fucking issue. She puts the work in, like, in a big way, like, to just and that's the thing is, like, the the moment is the big monologue where she's, like, you were talking about, like, after we boned, got a boner. Like, bro, I feel like I'm in in control or out of control or whatever. And she's like, that's all a bunch of fucking childish bullshit. There's no such thing.

Rowdy is your friend. Act like a fucking adult. And she kinda get similar to White Men Can't Jump, she's like, here, here's an opportunity to better yourself. Take it or don't. So are you saying that maybe he also has mommy issues?

There's a little there's a little there's a little Freud going on there as well. Yeah. It seems like she is I mean, this is like classic eighties nineties. Right? She is there to propel Cole forward so that he can do the thing.

He's a man child and, an adult has to, like, come in and, like, set him straight. A sexy adult. That's so doctor Chase Meridian. Yeah. You idiot.

She's also just you know, there are young doctors, but she looks extra young in this. And it's hard to read her like, she looks like such a kid. Well, she's younger than Cruz. Right? Yeah.

So, yeah, she's probably, like, 21 or 22. She's in her early mid twenties. Yeah. Like, it's like, are you, like, fresh fresh out of medical school? Yeah.

Yeah. Did you go to Australian medical school? Because I know that's only 9 months. Yeah. And it's winging.

It's rubbed during that. I so Cole has, like, quit. Right? And now Rowdy cannot race because he's he's not treating what's going on Yeah. At all.

But that's why he take right? Then he finally gets him to go to the hospital. Yep. And Rowdy's like, you gotta race my you could take my car. Yeah.

And Tom Cruise hits the bat against the pool table, and he's like, we can fix your head right now. I would think for that to be a lot more intense. Dude, my shoe. Thing. He just like went thud.

And you go, oh, that wasn't scary. He was like holding it, but he was brandishing this baseball bat like he's gonna do something terrible with it. And then he hits the heaviest object in the room and it just goes thud. That I think must be a 36 inch back because it looks enormous. He says it's out.

Did anyone else notice that, like, Rooker says fucked, and it's it's, dubbed over with the word screwed. Really? Yeah. That's funny. Yeah.

It's like there was definitely That's PG 13. Is it PG 13? But you can say fuck it. You can I think you can say it once, but it can never be used personally? But I think it all that also shit that might have changed because PG 13 didn't really come around till, like, what?

86? 89. 89. So I think, Red Dawn was the official first movie to have it Right. And something to have Temple of Doom was the one that they Batman.

Yeah. That makes sense. So maybe they were still Welcome to the history of ratings. They were still trying to figure out what PG 13 was. Could you have a fuck?

Could you have a boob? We'll find out. Have you seen Earth Girls Are Easy? Do what you want. How many sugar packets?

That's rated Earth Girls is Easy. It's rated PGG. You dropped your nametag. It's rated PG? PGG.

Have you seen Earth Girls Are Crazy? With Jim Carrey? Yeah. Jim Carrey. Yeah.

With way longer than it is very sexy. Right? Oh, it's It's a horny We did that movie, and it's like, you see nipples, you see full bush. It's a PG rated movie. It's wild.

Wild choices of fucking Tom Cruises. Does anybody notice his belts and boots in this movie? No. With, like, silver caps on them and they're braided. So True.

I mean, you don't get it unless From from anybody who doesn't know what Eagle Rock is, it sounds like the most metal place to live. It really does. And it's not. It's not. It's, it's Portland in LA.

Yeah. Right? Yeah. It's pretty close. Right?

Yeah. I agree. It's it's the it's gentrified, and it is it's white college age kids and people that never but people like me who live there? Who never who who never kept growing after college, you know, who just lived there. It's like It's like dream of the nineties is alive in Eagle Rock.

Not quite as, like, pedantic as as Pasadena. No. Well, it's not rich. Right. Yeah.

Pasadena is Pasadena is republican and rich. Eagle Rock is I got a coffee shop, but I also sold his records, and I have huge gauged ears. I'd call Pasadena boomer liberal, which is basically Republican. Yes. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Sure. This is when, Robert Duvall and Tom Cruise have their big scene where they meet back up and we're not gonna talk about no race. Hey.

Let's race. Uh-huh. That's part of the thing I love about Robert Duvall. Like, yeah, you can come in, we'll pull my ear, tell her to have some hot cocoa, and talk about our whatever, and then no race and no, okay. Let's race.

Immediately. I he, at least twice in this movie, has foot races with Tom Cruise and does surprisingly good both times. Yeah. He And he says he's only 59. That and also Tom Cruise is, like, 4 feet tall, so, like, you know, how many steps he has to take.

But he had a line there's so many good lines by him. But he had a line that that you were saying was, like, let's get drunk and call women or something. Yeah. It's so good. So many things about him seem like a true, like, good old boy.

Like, so many it's like, man, I'd love to have a beer with that guy. God bless. I kept saying I wish he was my uncle. Like, I wish I want Robert Duvall's character. I want Boss Hog, Harry Ball, whatever his name is in this movie.

I want him in my I want him in my life. I wanna I wanna press that down. Your daddy issues. Help me get it. Yeah.

Exactly. I want him to be my vicarious dad. I I love, like, the first thing they talk about is Tom Cruise in this movie apparently has no interest in reconciling his situation with his dad. No. But he comes into Robert Duvall and he's like, hey, tell me the fucking truth about buddy fucking brotherton, brother.

Yeah. And Robert Duvall's like, well, he didn't have a heart attack. He was just a paranoid person and he's dead. And he's like, well, did you ever tell his son? And Robert Duvall is like, no.

It's just the end of that end of scene. I I I think I might have fallen asleep for, like, 2 minutes at this point in the movie. No. It was just very weird. I'm not I'm not trying I'm not saying that it's like a slight to the movie.

I think accidentally fell asleep with 2 minutes. It's just weird that, like, Tom Cruise. Yeah. That part. Imagine if NASCAR investigated this guy, Travis, if they investigated Robert Duvall as you were awake.

Mhmm. NASCAR investigates. Standing. So yes. Stand and deliver, baby.

Yeah. So Tom Cruise presses Robert Duvall very softly with one finger and says, did you commit involuntary manslaughter? And Robert Duval is like, nah, you got me. NASCAR would have broken him immediately apparently. You know, it could have been that he just crashed.

It could have been carbon monoxide. Who knows? Yeah. Well He's dead. Why don't you do the same thing?

Yeah. And he just keeps lying to everybody like lying to Cole like, yeah, just pass on the outside. You'll be fine. Yeah. John C.

Reilly, your dad had a heart attack. Yeah. Like he's just like lying to everybody. Everybody's like, it's I love you. Yeah.

His heart's in the right place. It is, isn't it? He done it deliberate. He's trying to he done it deliberate. Here's where the here's the line.

Start telling lies and calling up the women. Yeah. Start telling lies and calling women. Are we at the final race? We yeah.

We we got through, like, the whole, like, murder admission, and we're back at fucking Daytona, man. Yeah. So I definitely fell asleep during the murder admission. Repeating shit. Because I didn't remember that at all.

I gotta say one more time, Talladega Nights pulls this off perfectly. This thing constantly is feeding you spoon feeding you through the announcer at races. Yes. Yeah. And Talladega Nights, like, amps that up to the point where it's like, how fucking dumb can we make it?

It's just a narrator. Yeah. It's Yeah. It's really great. We finally get to Daytona, and Cole is in the Mellow Yellow 51 car?

Question. Yes. Did Mellow Yellow become Surge? I think does Mellow Yellow still exist? No.

I don't think so. I thought it I thought it rebranded in the nineties to Surge. It might have. Surge was its own that was Surge was owned by Pepsi, and was it something? I Coke.

Surge's was Coke. Was Jolt Coke? Because Mountain Dew is Pepsi. Yes. I I remember my my memory of Mellow Yellow is that it's funny because we grew up in the same, area.

Yeah. It's that it was like the shit you get outside of Safeway from the Safeway brand Yeah. Vending machine. And Mellow Yellow was the was the knockoff Mountain Dew. Like, doc like, that's where I was at.

That's why I thought it rebranded as shirts. It has, like, a mountain logo. Like, when you look at the car, there is a mountain logo in the in the Mello Yellow logo. It's clearly a rip off. I'm looking into I assume that you guys would have done the research.

That's why I didn't do the research. Terrible with this job, bro. Ben Ben's last check didn't clear. Yeah. I I remember when I was a kid, Mello Yello existed, and I think the only place I knew how to get it was in those the, you know, quarter vending machines out in front of Safeway where you get all the knockoffs.

What was that? What was the Doctor. Pepper knockoff? The oh. Oh, mister Pibb.

No. No. No. It was a it was like an RC pole. Safeway brand?

Yeah. There's a Safeway brand one that starts with doctor again. Doctor It's like doctor Fizzer. Doctor Fuzzyballs. Doctor Harry Hogg.

Doctor Chase Meridian. Doctor Chase Meridian. That's it. Drink it up. So he's in the mail of yellow car.

It's all shiny. It's all good. And he's ready to go again. But he's battling some inner demons and some fear. So he got into this big accident and it it rattled him pretty good.

So he's in the mellow yellow car, he's driving, and then what happens? He gets that free engine in the mellow yellow car from Randy Quaid because the engine was leaking. Mhmm. And they're running pretty good, but at a point, the accelerator is, like, stuck, and the brakes are stuck, and he can't do anything. And, of course, Russ Wheeler Mhmm.

Knocks him, and everything kinda starts working where he can at least stop and pit. They're having problems with the pit, and they're like, just give me the high gear. And they push start him. Yeah. To get ahead of the pace car.

And Randy Quaid and the Hardee's team, Kerry Always' team runs out there and helps push start him. And the NASCAR guy is like, you can't do that. Yeah. And Randy Quaid's like, it's my engine. I have interest in that.

Whatever. And it's like, bro, you were just told that this is not okay. Right. Nobody won. This is okay.

Fine. I also was like, they were kind of just displayed as, like, the new villains, like Randy Quaid. Yes. I was confused by that too because they are absolutely competitors. Yeah.

Right? Like, why did Randy Quaid have to be the night be nice at the end? Because he knew what Colt done for him. He didn't forget. But why did he not forget?

Like, revive his character. Like, he could have been a schmuck. He's a great schmuck. He's Randy Quaid. Yes.

You could say the same thing about Kylo Ren. Why did they need to Why did they need to He was a great schmuck. It's really weird how, like, yeah, Randy Quaid's, like, a good guy, a bad guy, a good guy so quickly. Again, like, there's It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't need they don't need it.

There's no commitment to our potential villains. He could've he should've become the heel the main heel of the whole movie. I agree. Ellis is just a a hand to him. Like I agree.

He's like a henchman. Yes. Yeah. A 100%. And now one of the worst moments in movie history after Cole wins the Daytona, the fucking foot race freeze freeze frame.

Oh, I love the foot race frame. It's so it's so fucking interesting. Isn't that like Rocky 2? Which one ends Oh, the, 3 where Carl Weathers and Trevor jumping on the beach. I believe that's 3.

Okay. Were you surprised by how fucking fast Robert Duvall was in that? A little bit. And Tom Cruise. Is he running like Tom Cruise?

Cruise, he got to do a run though. I was like, oh. He did. He got to do a run. He wasn't running like current day cruise.

Well, he wasn't slicing the air. No. Because now he's like a person running Now he's optimized. He was still optimizing Yeah. His sprint.

He was right. He wasn't running on macOS yet. I have an update. Mellow Yellow was discontinued. Mhmm.

But it's still served in crackle bear Crackle Barrels. Okay. Crackle Barrel? And Sonic Drive Ins. Interesting.

Coca Cola did own them, and they did introduce after they discontinued Surge. Mhmm. But then Surge was discontinued in 2003 due to too much, like, too much death. Caffeine? Yeah.

Yeah. Just like poison in your body. Right. Okay. Surge was also one of the ones that introduced the wide mouth can.

Remember when it's and now that's everywhere. But for a while, you had to sip out of that little tiny sliver. Or smoke out of it, whichever you need. Or smoke out of it. Yeah.

Turize your parrot. Now down down. Travis, I hate to leave this in your hands. Okay. We just talked about this movie.

Are there any details that we forgot that you wanna go over? I mean, I I I took contemporaneous notes. Excellent. And it's 30 paragraphs. So we could do 4 or 5 more episodes on this show if you would like.

But no. Nothing that aside from just the thing that's magic about this movie is, again, it's not a Tom Cruise movie in my head. It's a you said it right. It's a Robert Duvall movie. And I think what I realized at the end of this is that I just wished he was my dad Yeah.

When I was a kid. And that's probably what most of it is. As I was like, oh, he's a he's a sweet guy that's Yeah. That's, you know, lying to his kid in a good way. Most are calling the women.

Get your tissues for your daddy. I don't want that. Yeah. You know what that tissue is? It is a moist out.

But Yeah. No. I think that there's there's mainly this movie just creates a lot of quotable things. I'm I'm probably quote a lot more of lines from this than the average person because it's such a huge part of my life. Especially when people are like, what are you doing?

You're like, I'm out of fucking a football. Alright. Yeah. I do. Like, actually, I started fucking football after this movie.

But have you trained a monkey to fuck a football? I hadn't. I just couldn't it was too much fun. You look like a trained monkey when you fuck the football, though. I get that a lot.

Yeah. But no no no glaring things we missed. I, I know I think I can see all of this movie's faults and that story doesn't work and Tom Cruise isn't as magical as he is in a lot of other movies, But I fucking love it. I love this movie. You know, I was gonna say, I think it's one of those things where it's like when a movie comes to you at a certain time in your life, a certain age, especially when you're young, it doesn't have to be good to make an impact.

It just needs to be a movie. It just needs to be Yeah. So it is. And it needs and you need to relate to it in some way, and it needs to, like, spark something inside of you in some degree. And that is pretty impossible to erase over time.

It just it is. I said this earlier. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles has no business being that good. It has no business. Like, for me, it was Beetlejuice and Yeah.

Blazing Saddles. So many of these these movies that are great have no business being as great as they are. And another thing too is, like, when you're a kid and and you have a connection to it too. But the thing with me is that if if somebody whose opinion you respect likes it, like somebody who's cool in your head, like, if your older brother likes it Yeah. Then it's like, that will never wear off.

Yeah. Like, I still think Oakleys are cool. They're not. My older brother when I was 10 or I don't fucking own a pair of Oakleys. I don't really think they're cool.

But you had Oakleys which is fucking random. Go down this path with me. But, like, for a long time, I thought they were random. You do love NASCAR, like, Truly. I fucking love them.

No. I don't. That's why you have sunglasses on the back of your head. That's why I want yeah. That's why I have the soul patch.

I thought this was Joe Rogan. But, yeah, I think it was one of those things where a my, you know, the older brother and the dad thought it was so cool. Yeah. They were so cool. Is this in Lucite for you then?

Is are you still at, like, 5 metal wheels? I think I can't shit. I tried. It's something I can't I I I see all the problems. Structurally, it's a bad movie.

Yeah. Yeah. Story wise, like, if I could just say I'm not I don't write. If I I could take a pass at this and make it a lot better. Yeah.

Sure. It's also just this well of so much shit that I've been saying and thinking my whole life. It's so fucking fun. Yeah. The movie is really fun.

Partly because it's, like, a lot of really fucking good ideas and weird execution. Good ideas and good execution. Like, bad ideas and good like, it's such a weird amalgam to so many fucking things. And as you said, Travis, where it's like, I think I could take a pass and and and, you know, fluff some stuff up here. This was part of my problem with Tequila Sunrise.

They're both written by Robert Townes, the guy who wrote fucking Chinatown. And I feel the same way, where it's like, oh, I'm not some talented great writer, but there's some shit in here I think I could. Yeah. You could lean this down a little bit. And so that's what keeps me from coming back up.

I mean so I'm gonna stay at 2 sponsorships and and the fellow yellow. Even if you took this and you shaved a quarter inch off of it and shaped it like a bullet. Yeah. And you still give it to him? I'm gonna pump an extra gallon of gas in there.

An extra gallon of daddy issues. I'm gonna put those in there. But it's it's it's a 2 sponsors and and but also, like, you should watch this movie. It is not good. Two sponsors plus a Mel Yoda.

A Mel Yoda to wash it down. So good. Zachar. You know, the more we talk about it, the the more that I think, like, I didn't dislike my time watching the movie. Yeah.

And I was thinking that while I was watching it where I was like, I'm not necessarily, not enjoying this. Like, I'm entertained. And at the end of the day, it's like, what do we want? Right? We want some we want some entertainment, and we want to forget about how awful the world is.

Yeah. So I think, like, all that said, I think I might come to 3. Hey. I'm gonna go to 3 monkeys fucking a football. That's awesome.

That's crowded. Good football. 4 Melio yellows. Yeah. Yeah.

You know? That's what I think. But in in in terms of metrics, 1 monkey fucking a football is worth at least 2,000,000. Yeah. I agree.

Okay. Yeah. That's it's interesting. That checks. That checks.

That floats. I'll have to run that by my guys. Read numbers, guys? Yeah. Well, it's interesting.

Like, we ultimately came up, like, a half a point between the 3 of us. And, Travis, you rate this movie really highly. Ben and I rate this a little bit more as, like, kind of an average movie, but we're also, like, very, very adamantly saying, like, watch this. I think I also misunderstood the assignment a little bit. I think I had No.

Way too much connection to this movie to because I I honestly thought I would hate it. I've not hated it, but I thought I would see through it. You did it exactly right. You did what you're supposed to do. Alright.

Fine. I mean, there's peep you know, there's been people who have brought movies that they loved, that they watch again, that they ended up hating. Right. Yep. So it's like, who knew who knew what was gonna happen when you watch it?

So it was like, you did it you did everything perfectly. You did great. And it was certainly loud. It was very very soft. Was it as loud as Paul next to you?

Not even close. I don't know. When he does those v eight sounds, I can feel that. I can feel it down in my diaphragm. I also this is one of the stickiest fucking movies I've ever seen.

Every like, while you're watching it, you feel like it's, like, sticky and sweaty and It's Florida. Yeah. Yeah. It all feels swamp. Down there.

It's just swamp. You guys seen Logan Lucky. Right? No. I have not in a long time, but I've seen it.

Oh, you should have a drive after, Daniel Craig. Yeah. It's a great heist, race racetrack heist movie. Logan Lucky? Mhmm.

Yeah. It is pretty solid. I'm on the list for it. Before we wrap everything up, as always, we wanna thank Jamie Henwood for our opening and closing themes, and Matthew Foskett for the ear bug that is, what are we watching? I'm gonna thank our other musician here, Ben McFadden, who does our lead in for the fact sheet.

Travis, if people would like to find you, if you want them to find you at all, Do you wanna mention any of that? Sure. I'm on Instagram on in my old past life drone world as gapitfpv. So g a p I t f p v. Okay.

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