HH 3 - Major League / The Dorn Deep Dive For It

Join The Review Review on the diamond as we celebrate the beginning of baseball season with our 3rd 'Holiday Helping’ for a deep dive on "Major League," (1989 Dir. David S. Ward). Starring: Tom Berenger, Charlie Sheen, and Wesley Snipes. Experience Ben's "Hollywood Nights," including brushes with greatness. We question, yet again, the point of "The Razzies." And yet again, we ask the question...Paul's NOT a pro athlete?

Plot: The new owner of the Cleveland Baseball squadron puts together a purposely horrible team so they'll lose and she can move the team to Miami. But when the plot is uncovered, they start winning just to spite her.

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That is a full on fart chair. It's I feel like I always know but I don't know. I just need the confirmation. Now you know. Yeah.

The the voice you're hearing across from me is my co host of this program, the Review Review. The beautiful, the intelligent, the capable, the wonderful, the very kind, the master of the manor when Rudy is not in this room, he's elsewhere. Benjamin McFadden, my co host, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you. Everybody.

Everybody. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Guys, I am here, in spirit and in physical form. Say in body as well. Yeah. Review review. What is this?

You probably already know what this is if you're one of like 27, 35 some people. A good couple. There are dozens of us. Dozens. Word.

The concept of the show, we take a film that's 7 years old or older and we take a second look at that film. Essentially, a guest is normally with us and they'll bring that film to us, and we'll look at it with a critical eye and bounce things back and forth and give 3 different ratings and ultimately decide after an in-depth discussion what is our ultimate final feeling on this film. Today, we don't have a guest. I picked the movie. Paul did.

And we're doing this as the MLB season is ramping up. We're in spring training now Mhmm. And we're both wearing Seattle Mariners hats Go Em's this recording. Yeah. Go Em's true to the blue, baby.

Yeah. So to Mojo. Always. Yeah. So now that we got that out of the way, hey, guess what we watched?

We watched 1980 nine's Major League. Another 1989 baseball movie. Yeah. Right? They were released, like, very close to each other too.

Field of Dreams and Major League Yeah. Back to back. How many other 89 is this did we do another 89? Few maybe. I feel like maybe Heather's was 89.

Oh, maybe. Yeah. I'd have to double check. I did not prepare that piece. God, I'm so sorry.

You didn't okay. We're gonna start over. Go figure that out, Paul. What else do we do from 89? Is this our first here's a couple things we're gonna talk about.

Yeah. 1, is this a rom com or on the edge of being a rom com? That's a interesting question to pose. I do not have an answer at this time, senator. Please come back to it if you don't mind.

Yeah. This episode is brought to you by romantic senators. There are many. Like Lindsey Graham. Bernie Sanders.

Very romantic guy. Have you seen those mittens? He makes those for everybody. He crochets. It's a very intimate activity.

Yeah. Takes time. There's love involved in that. Absolutely. Romantic senators.

Great. Sounds like a sex chat. It really does. Gross. It's definitely right wing.

Oh, yeah. It's definitely 900 number. Is senator Kate Britt on there? Relevant. A version of hers on there.

Whatever version she's choosing to present. Yeah. What a fun conversation we're having. On the note of fun conversations, the other thing we wanna talk about, something I didn't expect on this program, and maybe I inferred it, and you can tell me this now. I never intended to go back and say, how cringe is this?

How appropriate is this? Can I look back at this proudly? It was something that I guess I kind of anticipated was going to probably happen. Speaking of Major League. And that's why I wanted to bring this up.

Gotcha. This movie uses real MLB logos, MLB team uniforms, cities, and the whole thing. And I, you know, you watch it and it's actual Major League Baseball entities, properties. It's nothing fake. It it's a very, very grounded movie, like, crazy grounded movie.

And definitely, like, if you know your baseball stuff, like, this is these are team. You're seeing teams play in stadiums. Yeah. And if you've listened to this program a bit, and I know you know this, Ben, I grew up with a stepfather who was native American for a majority of my life. And it was explained to me at an early age why, like, this was not cool.

Yeah. And so it's been nice to see, what he was saying kind of resonate through sports a little bit, and some of these things have started to change and catch up to the now Yeah. Which, again, was not something I intended with this podcast. Again, had a feeling it might happen, but I wanted to mention, I feel like you've been a big champion of that, and I really appreciate it. It's made it's helped me have a way more critical eye, which I think has helped me enjoy not only recording more, but, like, watching the movies more Mhmm.

To a degree. Like, how how much am I really enjoying this? How much am I falling out because of what's happening? Or am I distracted? Yeah.

It's interesting because that's, again, like, never something I ever thought I would be doing coming from a some Amish some Washington. Yeah. Say it right. Again, the widest spread is town of Washington. Skyline bread.

It's one of those things where it's like, I I just feel like I'm always and I always want to be learning Mhmm. And listening. Learning and listening. And so doing. What an odd thing to say.

Yeah. And and and yeah. But, like, feel and, like, feeling empathetic towards Yeah. When people say things. I think there is a fine line, and I know I definitely cross it sometimes in terms of, like, feeling too sensitive about some things.

And that's a really hard line for me to walk just in general, just because it's like, I don't wanna feel like I'm walking on eggshells all the time, but I also wanna be conscious of, like, other people's how they feel about something. And I would like to think that I have a pretty good like, I've come to terms with aligning, like, oh, when something is, this is racist. This is sexist. And it's always changing and learning. And, like, I hear when people say, like, oh, I thought that was super racist.

And I have to stop and be like, oh, interesting. I didn't think that at first, but interesting perspective. Addressing Major League, we will be calling the Cleveland team the Cleveland team. Yeah. Or the Guardians or the Guardians.

What they're currently called. Like, credit to them for that. Yeah. Pretty dope nickname. Yeah.

I'm not a big fan of Washington Capitals. Say it's better than Washington Capitals. Also not a big fan of Washington Nationals. I was hoping they were gonna go with the grays or the senators. Maybe some romantic senators.

We'll be talking more about romantic senators during the break. On that note, Ben, how are you? I am tired. I am very, very tired. You're getting beaten at your own game?

Yeah. I'm so tired that I didn't even realize that I got beat at my own game. Oh, woah. Yeah. That's a next level tired for you.

That's a tired. I'm not I'm gonna push. I'm gonna give you all I got. I'm gonna book it to 1st base and blow up my knees. Oh, man, dude.

Just for you, Paul. I love it. Thank you. You give me all that you've got, the best part of you. Yeah.

Okay. How am I? I'm I'm alright. I gotta say, I'm covered in cat hair. My shirt, my jeans, my hair, my face, my eyes, I feel slightly nasally, and Binks are mustard tabby, the youngin'.

Mhmm. I got 9 full brush fulls of fur on him. And he's still just as How was he? Furry as he ever was. Is it like spring shedding?

I think so. Shedding. Yeah. This is my second mustard tabby male cat in my life. It was almost like he was he knew it was starting to warm up.

His body knew before even Matt Zaffino, the weatherman on KGW, Northwest News Channel 8. Oh, wow. You know that. I sure do. Colin Cowherd used to work for them.

For north Northwest News? Northwest News Channel 8 in Portland. Oh, okay. He was the sports guy. Can you believe it?

He's annoying. Whatever. Carson Wentz is still gonna be a thing. You'll see. Colin Cowherd will be vindicated.

Well, now we're already we are, like, zooming. We're moving. We're going fast. Yeah. We're running like Willie Mays Hayes out here.

Oh, man. Run like, play like, Mays, run like Hayes. Is that what he says? I think so. Which is I've probably seen this movie.

We're gonna talk about that. Yeah. Don't get I tease it. You know I like to tease these things. Spoiler.

I even like to be like, well, we'll see if I enjoyed it, and I did. Like, normally, I think. I'm pretty good at reading you, Paul. Okay. Like a book.

Okay. Like a really boring book. Oh, one that has a black jacket, black page is black. All I wear is black. Yeah.

Just like your soul. It's like you'd never expect that probably listening to this, I bet. Do you think? I don't think they noted that you're wearing, like, full kiss makeup too and, like, going like, you got the black fingernail polish. You got black eyeliner.

You got you're going super serious about it, man. I ever since I saw the movie role models Yeah. Where they came up with the KISS thing, like, I was like, yeah, man. I love role models. So, therefore, I love kiss from role models.

You think kiss you think the band kiss came from the movie role models? I know that the band kiss is from role models. Moving on. Hey. See that?

Look at that. What does that make you think of? She's pushing the hotdog again out of the croissant. Is it a croissant? I think so.

I think it is too. I don't know. Some sort of something. Hey, Ben. Yeah.

What are we watching? So this is the point of the program where I wanna tell you my story. Oh, okay. Ben's been teasing this to me, y'all. Just because I feel like and you can cut around or whatever.

But what whatever. But what have I No. I will not. This tea is giving me life, by the way. Thank you.

Yeah. It's very delightful. We're drinking mint tea. Something a romantic senator would do in an intimate situation Yeah. Like we're in now.

So here in Hollyweird Right. Was, the Oscars Mhmm. Last night, which is the biggest night in Hollywood. In hollywood? In hollywood.

And I had a very Hollywood night. Cool. I had a night that Hollywood night. As we know, if you listen to this program, that, previous guest and my wife, Jessica Aaron Martin, my wife Whoo. Jessica Aaron.

Do the celebration music. Whoo. Was in the Oscar award winner for best picture, Oppenheimer. Mhmm. As well as killing Murphy winning for best actor, Robert Down Junior winning best sporting, best, cinematography for Hoyt Van Hoytama, who was we talked about on for her, Ludwig Goransson, best sound Yeah.

The best composing. Yeah. One of the best Best editing, I believe. Editing for Jennifer Lane. Yeah.

Best directing for Christopher Nolan. Anyway, it was a very fun night. So It deserved everything it got and maybe more. Who knows? Now we didn't go to the Oscars, but Universal Studios had a watch party for Oh, very cool.

For a lot of the people who weren't invited to the Oscars, who were part of the crew or the cast. So we went to, Soho House in West Hollywood Mhmm. Which is a very fancy club It is. On, like, a top floor, and it has, like, a 3 60 view of the city. It's a member's only situation at the Soho House.

I was like They're very swanky there. Let's be clear. Like, I'm not cool enough to just not tell this story. You know? Like, a cool person a cool person would be like, that's just a thing that happened.

I'm not Who cares? I'm yeah. I'm not cool enough to not tell this story. You know, the cast of Oppenheimer, friends of Jess, people that I'm sure you would recognize, she's she's really good friends with them, and I've gotten to know them. It's The the gentleman we saw at dinosaur improv maybe?

Yes. Mister all these people. Very cool. A lot of folks that you might recognize from the movie as well. Very nice people.

It was just so fun to watch the Oscars, in that setting and open bar, which is Oh, yeah. Maybe why I'm dragging a little today. I'm hungover. Okay? Goddamn it, Tober.

Can at least say you were with the Yankees. So, anyway, the yeah. It it was like watching a football game because we were cheering like crazy in there every time we won something. And then, of course, the best picture win, it was just like everyone went nuts. Right?

Sure. So then the party transitioned into the universal after party. So it became you know, I mean, there's many Oscar after parties. There's the famous there's the Governors Ball for the winners. There's the Vanity Fair Oscar And John?

Elton John is the famous watch after party. So we didn't know who would come to this party, but we figured we would stick around and having a good time. There's food and Yeah. Pizza and and a bar and Pizza. Party.

Pizza. So, anyway, fast forward to a part of the night where I just started laughing to myself. Yeah. So This is your life, man. You can't see me, people, but I was sitting on a couch and in this sort of, like, corner pocket of Soho House.

And to my right, on the other couch next to me was Emily Blunt and John Krasinski. Oh, yeah. And Jess was talking to her. And Killy Ann Murphy was standing right in front of me. Yeah.

And Robert Henry junior was sitting on this couch over here. I looked over, in a couch in another corner. I saw Vin Diesel and Ludacris and Tyrese. The fast crew. The fast crew.

Oh, shit. Steven Spielberg brushed my shoulder as he walked by. Dude He touched you. It was absurd. You're blessed by the burg.

Josh Hartnett was sexy right here. Anyway, I met Cillian Murphy. Nice. And Jess was talking to him. He seems like a really lovely guy.

He was lovely. Yeah. He was literally one of the most genuine people I talked to that night. Fantastic. Good.

The fact that I met him on the night that he won the best his only his Oscar for best actor, And he's just like you know? You know what I mean? Like and we and he talked and we just had a brief conversation where he was like, oh, yeah. What do you do? And I was like, oh, Jess and I were from theater.

And he was like, oh, I love theater. I'm and he was like, I'll tell you a secret. I don't trust any actors who haven't done theater. Yeah. And it was just like, dude, fuck.

What is this? Keep going. Anyway, I just you know, it's one of those things where I don't wanna say too much about Jess' experience just because it's her experience with her friends and all that. But that was like, my experience was it was really cool to celebrate my wife, my life. Yeah.

And, you know, we constantly I constantly felt like an interloper. And then I know that and, like, I had to constantly tell her, like, you belong here. Yeah. These are, like They're her coworkers. Yeah.

These are your coworkers. And she'd be like, okay. I know. I'm like, just this is for you. Celebrate.

And it was a pleasure to be around all of these folks who worked on this amazing thing, and they clearly loved their experience because every single person just was Showed up and Yeah. And just was just so so happy to celebrate for finally since they didn't get to when the movie first came out. True Hollywood night for the McFadden Martin clan. Probably got back at, like, 2. And That's great.

Started at, like, 4 in the afternoon. I love that. I also was, like, very 4:4 PM to 2 AM. That's when the Oscars started. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, that means your day probably started at, like, 1. Right? What do you mean? 2 to, like, get ready?

Oh, yeah. We left the house at 2 PM. Yeah. Exactly. Because we were going at it for probably over 12 hours.

I'm sure I can empathize to a degree or understand. There are people that I've met that I've worked with also that I'm just, like, for a second, you're just kind of, like, dumbstruck about it. Yeah. I can't I cannot imagine what you what degree you were at. Of dumbstruck?

Yeah. Like, the just like the the physical laughter point where you're like, wow. This is my life. I started laughing. That's so cool, man.

And Jess had to be like, keep it together, McFadden. Yeah. Like, this is not the not the time. I'm like, yeah. I know.

I know. I know. But it's just like, I'm I like Some things you can't help. When I saw Robert Downey junior walk in and, like, sit on the couch next to my couch, it was, like, a moment of you know, it's just someone I don't know. There's a confirmation of reality that happens to for me when I've met certain people.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's grounding. It was just like a wild Hollywood night of partying with all of these famous people, but the fame is whatever.

It's really just partying with a bunch of people who I respect and admire, and I think that's really a real it was really cool. The respect and admire is a bonus. It's rad that you saw so many of the people that you saw in the experience you had, but, also, just, like, you're just at a party with a bunch of people. Yeah. Anyway, Paul, what are you watching?

What am I watching? I did not watch any of the movies from my list that were for our YouTube's review, the hustler or empire of the sun, which is about a similar subject matter. Yeah. Cool birthday, Paul. Happy August 6th, no one.

I just I can't wait to see your face when I say what I'm about to say. I feel like I need to champion things like this on this program. He's already shaking his head and, like, burying his face. No. I'm trying to go to neutral.

Beverly Hills Ninja. Okay. There's, like, like, the happy, like, nodding frown, like, yeah. Okay. I mean, I'm Alright.

I think I watched the movie when it came out on the VHS, and I liked it as a kid, but it came out, like, 98, 99. I think even earlier. 96. 96 or 7 probably. Okay.

But I watched that on a train for the first time. Oh. On an Amtrak Coastliner, Joe Biden would be so proud. Yeah. I mean, that's how I had a lot of first movie experiences because I was traveling from Vancouver, Washington to Tacoma, Washington.

To Tacoma, Washington. It just gets worse every time, and you just bounce back and forth. And it's always worse somehow. Yeah. I saw a lot of movies that way, and that was the first time this was the first time I had seen that movie since I watched it on the train.

And damn it if I wasn't stone sober the entire time because I was. It's just a fun fucking movie. Yeah. It's not good. Not by any means.

Yeah. Don't go to anybody you know and be like, you gotta watch Beverly Hills Ninja. Like, you might, like, look at somebody like me who's, like, an 84 year old child that, like, loves to smoke weed and is like, can we talk about the physical comedy genius of Chris Farley? Like, why haven't we been talking about that? Like Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. On this program specifically, because I think that's well known that he was an amazing physical actor. A 100%. Yeah.

But I just had the fucking best time watching that movie. I truly did. And it was nice to sometimes, I feel like, like, it's like I have anxiety where it's like, I really wanna make sure that, like, I'm paying attention. I'm doing a good job on this program Mhmm. And, like, making my points.

Sure. And it was just nice to just be like, watch Beverly Hills and Ninja. Yeah. Trust me. It's not that I have a bad time watching things for this program, and we're gonna go on about that Yeah.

At some point. I mean, I did watch I also watched Aquaman 2, The Lost Kingdom. But What what the fuck? Like, you say things to me. Like, why do you watch that?

Well, I wanted to also tell you that sometimes I don't value my time. Okay. Good. Okay. So that's more out of, like, sick curiosity more than anything.

Fair. Yeah. Okay. I completely and totally I'm on your wavelength, bro. Completely and totally.

Also like a background movie while I'm, like, doing something on my laptop. So you weren't, like, watching. It was just on. Yeah. I mean, I was you know?

Yeah. It is bad. It's just really bad. It's sure. I don't wanna go on about it because it's just bad.

Thank you. I appreciate it. Waste your time. Don't waste your money. Okay.

I don't know what my Either. Energy. Anything. Kenergy. Oh, I wanted to say, I did not have the opportunity to watch as much of the Oscars I would have liked.

You sent me a John Mulaney clip that I absolutely loved where he talked about field of dreams, and I'm pretty sure I've broken down that movie almost the same way. And I was like, by the way, I do own it. It's a wild movie. But also him just doing that and going off on it for no reason. And, like, that movie should win best picture, but it probably won't.

They will probably give it to one of the ones that was came out this year. This year. Well, I think we've made that joke on this program where it was like, what the fuck? But we like to talk about awards on this program. Awards are fun.

Yeah. It's fun. It's a fun, like, record keeping thing. If nothing else, people have their opinions. Yeah.

And we're gonna end up talking about awards on this program today. I think it's time for you to send the facts. Alright. Let's get some facts. I think let's do it.

Archaeology is the search for facts. Major League is a Morgan Creek production distributed by Paramount Pictures. Probably a little money from Paramount as well. 1989, it is an r rated film for language and man ass. Mhmm.

Because I don't remember any nudity in this movie. Mhmm. Because I don't remember any nudity in this movie outside of man ass. No. There's nipple covers on She's like, yeah, like tassels or pasties.

Yeah. She has something on there, and it's a cutout too. You see some jiggling man ass in this. You do? So, yeah, r rated.

Get those buns in. The budget of this film, $11,000,000. That is 27,400,000 adjusted opening weekend, April 9, 1989. We're gonna do our best to release this right around that Woah. MLB opening window if we can.

Opening weekend money was 8,800,000. That is 21,888,000,000 adjusted, Ben. That is a big deal. 21.888. Final gross in North America, 49.8.

That is 123.9 adjusted. Final gross worldwide, same. Other releases this weekend, the dream team. Ben Yeah. Tell me about the dream team.

Well, you've got Michael Jordan. Yep. You've got Scottie Pippen. Yep. What are we talking about?

It's a Michael Keaton movie that's not Batman. Oh, it's I've never seen it. The only thing I know about it is it has Michael Keaton. Okay. I think he has some other famous dudes.

Yeah. I don't know what their mission is. I don't know the log line, and that's okay. It's just crazy this exists. Cyborg.

Not based on the comic book character, I imagine. No. This is a Jean Claude Van D'et. I think it's like a Canon films movie. Oh, okay.

One of those type deals. And Dead Calm You, that stars. Billy? We haven't heard from Billy in a while. No.

We haven't. Yeah. I like Billy to cum naturally. I don't like him to have to fucking be on standby. You want Billy to come naturally?

I like Billy to just relax and let it happen. Oh, okay. I don't want him to just, like, be, like, leering, shaking, like you know? I just fucking he's earned it, man. He has.

Have you seen Tales from the Crypt demon knight? That shit rules. I actually haven't. Weekend top 5. This film, numero uno, the dream team, whatever the fuck that is.

Rain Man, Cyborg, and Fletch Lives. Ben, have you seen Fletch Lives? I have. Yes. I don't really like that movie.

Like that one? No. I'm not a fan. I do love the first one. I love the Jon Hamm one.

I actually have not seen that one. It's good. Marcia gay Harden's good. Good movie. Oh, check it out.

Jon Hamm has that, like it's crazy because apparently he's a fucking rad dude, but he has like, he can pull off that level of, like, Chevy smarm charm. He's got that same thing. That movie is really good. He's fucking talented. He is.

He's great. Yeah. The top five films this year, Tim Boortman's Boortman, Indiana, where's the dog's name? And the last crusade, lethal weapon 2. I feel like we got Melinda Hensley's opinion, 1980 2.

I feel like we got Melinda Hensley's opinion 1989 on lethal weapon 2. Is that your preferred lethal weapon? I I don't know. I'd have the one where at the end, Danny Glover, like, cracks his neck, and he says to the South African dude about his, diplomatic immunity has just been revoked, and then he just shoots him in there. Jesus.

I ruined the end of the movie for him. I I know. I ruined it. For lethal weapon 2 from 89. The first lethal weapon for me.

Gary Busey. You love that Busey. I do. That's a good Busey. I love the Buse.

Dude, that's a good Buse. Only the best from Buse. Butter sausage. Only the best butter sausage from Buse. He's gonna take the name, and he's gonna make a $1,000,000,000.

And what are we gonna get? We're gonna get sponsored by romantic senators. That's what we get. Yeah. We don't get the butter sausage.

Nope. Honey, I Shrunk the Kids and Rain Man. Again, I think we've talked about it before, but 89 is heralded as one of the best years of cinema. It's a really good year of movies. Yeah.

And we're gonna talk about some of the best. Let's see if Ben can find the common thread. He likes to give me little funky common threads. Let's give him one. Okay.

Other films from 89, Field of Dreams, Sea of Love, Pet Cemetery, The Abyss, To the Limit, The Burbs, Lockup, and Roadhouse, Miho. There's a common theme other than them all coming out in that same area? Correct. I'm lost? I mean, it's hard to say to the limit.

I'm I'm pushing it to the limit with that. I I'm lost. They're all places. The field of dreams, the sea of love, the pet cemetery, the roadhouse, the burbs, the lockup, they're all places. For roadhouse Does that float?

Get rid of the the it's cleaner. Just Roadhouse. Road oh, that's very good. The Letterboxd average of this film is 3.5 stars. That's pretty fucking high.

Yeah. You could follow me on Letterbox at run bmc and see what movies I don't waste my time with sometimes. I follow you? Yeah. I enjoy the shit out of it.

Oh, good. Yeah. I don't know who reads my reviews. So I just I I read them. I don't know how often I rate.

I throw them into the vacuum of space, and that's all I need. I'm also good with I think my review for this movie was wild thing, I think I blank you, and we'll go over the blank. Okay. Is it the direct song lyric? Is it something else?

Is it Who's to say? Who who's you are. I will. But I'm gonna leave you in suspense. You can follow me on letterboxed at Paul acts badly.

I think you should just follow us both. Sysco and Evert did not review this film. They did review the second How dare them? This one. Rotten Tomatoes, 83%.

Metacritic, this is 62, which is Metacritic does the correct rating where essentially 60 is, like, barely passing, not really passing. Okay. So barely passing. Major award wins and nominations, I just had to mention this. This is the Japanese Academy Award nominee for best foreign film.

That's crazy. I think that fucking rules. That's awesome. Obviously, like, there must be a popularity of baseball, baseball culture. Oh, sure.

Sure. Sure. That makes sense. Speaking of Godzilla minus 1, won best effects at the Oscars. I can't wait to see that.

I really wanna see that in the show. Was, the first time Godzilla anything has ever won an Academy Award. Okay. Hey. It's your turn.

It's my turn. I'm gonna talk about some people. Drink that honey, baby. Yeah. Oh, let me take a sip of my tea real quick.

Oh, do it. Thank you, Senator. Yeah. The director of this movie was David s Ward. He also directed Major League 2, The Program, and King Ralph.

Is it program or program? I prefer program. Okay. I think it sounds classier. The writer, also David s Ward, he did the sting Fuck.

Sleepless in Seattle and Flyboys. Wow. Sting. Wow. Sleepless in Seattle.

See, that's a good script. That's why I I feel like that romantic comedy Sure. Kinda thing. Yeah. Yeah.

Director of photography, Reynaldo Villalobos? Villalobos? I don't know. Villalobos? Punchline, a Bronx Tale, PCU.

Music, James Newton Howard kills it. King Kong, the village, Red Sparrow. Producers, Chris Chesser, RIP, The Rundown. Urbie Smith, rookie of the year, also great. Good baseball movie.

He just said funky butt loving. I can't help it whenever anything correlates to Daniel Stern. Boop. Boop. Joe Roth Maleficent.

The cast, Tom Berenger plays Jake. He's in sniper, platoon. Yeah. He's also in Inception, speaking of Chris Oh, yeah. I should watch that entire movie.

Inception? I have never sat and watched all of Inception, Dunkirk, Interstellar, or tenant. I know. I know. Moving on.

Charlie Sheen plays Rick. Platoon, Wall Street, no man's land. Have I ever told you my Charlie Sheen story? No. You haven't.

Will you tell me your Jay Leno story? I'll tell you this for free. Love no man's land. I had to put it there. I'll tell you this for free, Paul.

I, I'll I'll tell you this for free. What does he say when he asked that? I I I'll, I'll tell you this for free. Anyway, I was at a concert at Bumper Shoot in Seattle, Washington. Yep.

And we had somehow got into, like, the VIP, like, front of the audience, area. So because nobody arm barred you. No one arm barred me. Yeah. You gotta cut that.

I know. And it's like, no one's gonna know the context. So we're in the VIP section, so we could see we were really close to the stage. We could see back kind of in the wings of the stage. And, like, the concert's going, and I'm looking kind of stage right, in between the two middle, like, wings, and I see someone dancing in off stage.

And I was like and I I was with our friend mutual friend, Bruce Burrito. Oh, yeah. And I just went and I pointed. I was like, is that Charlie fucking Sheen? What the fuck?

And, like, this is in Seattle. Right? And, like, the in between a set, the lights go dim. Mhmm. And Charlie Sheen walks on stage, and he's like, turn on the lights.

What? Turn on the lights. And, like, they don't. And then a security guy comes out and asks him to, like, step off, and he leaves. And that But they introduced him and he They didn't.

No one introduced him. He just walked on stage. He just stormed the stage. He just walked on stage and started saying yelling turn on the lights. And then they didn't.

And then someone asked him to, like, politely leave the stage, and that was it. You're not gonna we're not gonna give you this opportunity for attention, sir. To be Please go. A crazy human being. Yeah.

When this movie starts and he's in jail, I was like, woah. What a what a woah. And they mentioned that he was playing for Portland. Whoo. Portland.

A made up team? Oh, he was in a he was in a Or it would have been, like, the Portland Beavers at that time, I think. What like, one of the minor league teams. Alright. Charlie Sheen talked about him.

Wesley Snipes plays Willie Willie Mays Hayes, demolition man, blade, white men can't jump. This is our 3rd Snipes because also too long food. Thanks for everything. Julie Newmar. Question that has come up in my life before and with various people, like, if you could pick one actor and the only thing you can watch are the movies that they've appeared in over and over and over or new ones that they do.

Yeah. Wesley Snipes is in contention there. Interesting. And a couple of our former guests have also been like, oh, maybe he is for me too. I think mine's a pretty crystal clear answer.

Harrison Ford? Hell, yeah. Get off my wife. No. You didn't you'd I lost it.

I'm too tired. You hey. You've always got it, baby. Thanks. Yeah.

Just nobody wants to see it. I didn't kill my wife. Renee Russo plays Lyn, the Thomas Crown Affair, Tim Kupp. Corbin Berson Burnson plays Roger Dorn, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, the dentist, Major League 2. One of my favorite lines from Major League 2 is, Roger Dorn is o for the century against this guy, but he does have several foul tips.

Foul tips. My brother and I just say that a lot. Dennis Habert, plays Pedro Serrano, Flamin' Hot, Chippendale, Rescue Rangers, Heat, and I wanna famously the 24. Yeah. As the president.

I wanna make sure that I mention Moses Olsen, who's on this program, and I went on about Dennis Haysbert and Heat and Budcourt and that whole part of the storyline. I think it's your turn, Paul. We're we're both gonna have some fun today. We're gonna talk about some fun things. Stop hitting the mic.

We'll see. I'll consider it. Most of the baseball scenes were shot in Milwaukee County Wait. Most of the baseball scenes were shot in Milwaukee County Stadium, which was then the home of the hometown Milwaukee Brewers. Wouldn't you know it?

But The Seattle Pilots. Euchre. Yeah. Originally, the Seattle Pilots and then the Milwaukee Brewers. And you watch the did you watch that whole, like, 4 hour Mariner documentary?

The Geek Town. I don't know. From what what It's on YouTube. Oh. Oh, man.

I think I sent it to you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Intense.

I think you and my brother sent that to me. Probably. That makes sense. Bob Uecker, who plays Harry Doyle, that says Doran, who plays Harry Doyle, was a real life professional MLB player for a few years and the play by play radio announcer for the Milwaukee Brewers for 33 years. He was also on a pretty successful TV show called mister Belvedere.

Lines like, just a bit outside. And many of his lines were improvised, which when you were using film in those days, I mean, that extends a lot of trust. But, I mean, his job He's a pro. Yeah. That's his job.

Yeah. So Total pro. Yeah. Dennis Haysbert, who played Pedro Serrano, actually hit multiple home runs on camera while filming this movie. That's amazing.

In the final game, when Haysbert Serrano hit the final home run that he hits, he was so excited he forgot to drop the bat and ran the bases with it in his hand despite it not being in the script. That's awesome. I didn't I've watched this movie with the commentary, and I don't think I knew that. Yeah. It's my turn to do More fun.

More fun. These are really fun. You always make an emphasis of that. I appreciate it. Fun.

The Yankees' big closer in this movie, the Duke, the Duke, is played by Dodger Gray and 1981 World Series co MVP Steve Yeager. Yeah. You're right. I think. He also served, as the on set baseball coach in Tom Berenger's stunt double for a collision, and distance throwing scenes.

The Duke. You say it with a liquid you? The kick ass Duke. The kick ass Duke. Dukeley or Atreides?

The what? Oh. Dukeley or Atreides? Don't spoil it. I can't even say the name of the character?

No. Spoilers. My name is Paul. Spoilers. My mom my mom wanted to name me Iago Bane, Iago Bane.

Oh, wow. I ended up being named Paul instead of Poole. My grandfather's middle name was Poole with an e at the end. American version is Paul. A part of that, my mom told me later on was like, you're also named after Paula tradies from Dune.

And then later on in life, I, like, kinda found out that, like, is he the good guy, or what's the deal here? What'd you do, mom? Is that why you're addicted to spice? The spice? Hey.

The spice must flow, bro. Yeah. You hit the mic again. Try it. The pitcher's, mound was placed 10 feet closer than MLB standard to give the char give Charlie Sheen, who was offered a baseball scholarship from the University of Kansas.

Okay. Actual 85 mile per hour fastball, the appearance of a 100 mile per hour. I mean, that's 85 mile per hour fastball is no that's not anything to to that's amazing. That's really fucking good. That's really good.

Apparently, he also admitted in People Magazine he was on steroids during the production of this film. Amongst other things, I'm sure. I'm sure. His leg kick also is, like, very legit. Yeah.

Like, it's like, oh, yeah. This guy played baseball. Yeah. Running sequences are played in slow motion to provide the illusion actors are moving much faster than they are, like the, William Hayes Hayes race in his pajamas. Yep.

Or Jay Taylor beating out the single. Improv legend Chicago's the troop and the janitor from Scrubs, Neil Flynn, had a small role in this film as a city construction worker. I Sure does. I saw that. Mhmm.

And that is all of the fun facts that we have for you today, Paul. Yes. We're gonna take a little break. There's one more. Oh, there is?

The log line? No. No. Well, we'll do oh, yeah. We should do that, Did I miss 1?

No. I didn't put the log line on it, but we should tell it. No. I was gonna have you tell that last fact. The Cleveland Guardians Cleveland Baseball franchise has the longest drought in Major League Sports.

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Follow Ben on letterboxed at run bmc and paul@paulaxbadly. And now back to your program. Okay. What do you think? Well, I think we're What say you, senator?

I think we're a Mac. I say you should embrace me. Oh, okay. Then tell me what makes you happy. Happy birthday.

Mister Smiths. Welcome back. The program on Major League. Major League. This is the review of you, Ben Paul.

Yep. That's us. Still here. Would you be so kind? We've decided we're just gonna read the log line.

It's important. Yeah. You gotta know the log line. So here it is. The new owner of the Cleveland Indians puts together a purposely horrible team so they'll lose.

And she can move the team, but when the plot is uncovered, they start winning to just to spite her. Have you trusted? You know what's funny? You ever realized, like, the first season of Ted Lasso is is this? Yes.

I have realized that. I hope I was going to mention that. I'm glad you did. Different. Yeah.

Yeah. But in terms of, like, a major pushing plot device forward Major league is r rated and very grounded in terms of professional athletes, I think. Mhmm. I think. I'm not a of professional athletes, I think.

Mhmm. I think. I'm not a professional athlete. I've only made the XFL Mhmm. XFL Mhmm.

And the squirrel water skiing. ESPN, a. Somebody's gotta control that boat. Somebody's gotta control that boat the squirrel's on, baby. Theocho.

Theocho. Let's take another look, Pepper. Hey. Another movie with someone named Pepper. Dodgeball in this movie.

Yeah. What did you say? That's a that's a bold move, Cotton. We'll see where it goes. See how it works out for him.

Works out for him. That was, like, part of the, Jason Bateman renaissance. Yeah. The Arrested Development in that movie. I think The Bateman Bateman Renaissance?

Yeah. Only the best from Bateman Essence. Yeah. Okay. So we're gonna do cinephile.

Let's do it. For those of you who are just joining us, cinephile is a card game that has an actor on it and a movie. And then we go around the horn trying to name a movie that actor was in until that person goes out. So here we go. Oh, it is have we done this one?

I don't know if we have done this one. Cate Blanchett. I don't think so. Okay. You get the freebie.

The freebie is Jesus. I feel like an old man. Cate's yellow, though. It is yellow. It's hard to read the font, people.

Carol. Okay. Carol. Carol. Carol.

Blue Jasmine. I'm gonna go with Thor Ragnarok. Good. No. I'm freezing.

How to train your dragon 2? I think that's right. Yes. I'll take it. Don't look up.

Shit. That was I I lost. That was my next one. I swear to you. I'll just beat.

It's you, Paul. When was you what's your first experience with the Major League? No fucking clue. Yeah. Don't remember.

I maybe have seen this movie more than any other movie. Oh, wow. I don't know if it's as quotable throughout for me as other movies from front to back. Uh-huh. That might be a weird tie between The Shining and Ghostbusters.

Gremlins is up there too. You know if The Shining won a Razzie as we were talking about awards for worst movie? Kubrick, I don't think, ever won best director. So Wait. Wait.

Wait. The Shining got a Razzie from worst movie. What it was, but I am sure that movie got a Razzie. Again, a reason to be like, what the fuck is this? Stop doing this.

Yeah. What's the point of it? It's it's just yeah. It's dumb. It's like, fuck it.

Who cares? People make bad movies. Just move on. I get that, like, award shows are award shows, and you wanna do the anti award show, but this is just not the way. Yeah.

It's lazy. And it's also offensive. Yeah. Yeah. Not kinda.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what my first experience is with this movie. Seen it a 1000000 times.

But this movie was, for the longest, like a 3a half star, and then it crawled to a 4 star. And it was a movie I could always turn on in the background. It was a it's a comfort movie for me. Sure. Yeah.

It goes into that, like, uncle Buck for me or Planes, Trains and Automobiles. For Travis, it was Days of Thunder. For Shannon, it was Willow. Yeah. This is one of those movies for me that I'm gonna try to look at it as best as I can critically, but it's a movie that I really love.

I have nostalgic strings attached. Sure. I have those movies. Do you know what they are for me? I know one is Raiders.

Yeah. I can't recall any others off the top. I know you and I are both big fans of Insomnia. That's not a movie I just throw on in the background. No.

I I've that's what we can't you understand? I was like, you do you put on insomnia just to, like, vacuum? Yeah. You know, like, I gotta clean up the house, put on insomnia real quick. No.

Don't jerk one out. Let me just turn on insomnia. Beetlejuice. Mickey Cat movie. Oh, yeah.

Beetlejuice. So good. Yeah. That's my Well, Beetlejuice. Is is it my oh, you can talk about your your most recent one.

And all my most recent experience. So looking at this movie with a critical eye and just being serious and coming to terms kinda with what it is. Yeah. I'm gonna go from 4, complete, like, uniforms and everything. It's really great.

To 4 and a half uniforms and everything, it's really great. Wow. Wow. That you you did a reversal there. I know.

I like debate. You know that whole troll. This is a really fucking good movie. I like to give movies that take some chances depending on the chances. Like, Heathers was a movie same year that really resonated with me with chances.

Sometimes being exceptionally grounded is taking a chance because commanding people's attention without painting in the fantastical Yeah. Even sleepless in Seattle does that a little bit. Yeah. This movie risks Jake Taylor being kind of a creepy stalker. Yeah.

That's the one other thing that's kind of wrong with this movie for me. Yeah. But the romantic comedy thing that happens in the second act gets the movie really firing. The baseball really works. Spring training really works.

But then the romantic comedy piece of, like, Jake Taylor growing up and whatnot Mhmm. Not only leading the team, but taking command of his life. And what a fucking performance by Tom Berenger. Sure. Yeah.

Really is. Yeah. It's a good movie. It's great performances. Four and a half uniforms and everything.

Would you have guessed that rating system? I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't have guessed it. It's such a quotable movie.

It's hard. Yeah. It's pretty good. It's very quotable. My turn?

Please. Okay. Yeah. I I kinda like you, I don't remember my first time watching this movie. I it it I it must have been in my mum my mom's TV room.

Your mom. My mom. You're always thinking about the mummy. Someone will bring it. Please do.

It'll happen or you'll pick it. No. In my mom's TV room downstairs with my brother Mhmm. Probably rented from Block Buster. The competitor.

Yeah. This movie and the sequel are just like I've seen them so many times. I love the second one too. Me too. Drop that right now.

And I don't know if you've glanced at Rotten Tomato score of that movie. No. I don't I want you to tell me, but I don't care. Okay. I wanna know, but I don't care.

I couldn't care less, but I wanna. Yeah. Weird. Okay. It's 5%.

5. Major league 2 is 5. Mhmm. Man, there's even, like, a tie to the natural progression of mill Willie Mays Hayes being the best actor in the American Express ad to getting his own movie based on his sports popularity. The progression of story makes total sense to Perfectly.

Jake Taylor becoming the coach. It does. It makes total sense. It's well written. The main thing that's missing is the teeth.

It doesn't have the same teeth. Yeah. And Jake Taylor's not leading the movie anymore. Yeah. And I think that's a big piece of it.

I just wanna know as you're about to talk about your experience. I'm sorry. What's better between this and driving miss Daisy, the winner of the Golden Globe for 1990 best musical or comedy? There are other movies that are very good in that category, but what's better? What would you rather watch?

Oh, this, 100%. Okay. I would maybe nominate this for director too. Glory is not a movie that I love. I watched it in junior high for, you know, school.

History class or some shit. We watched Escape from Sobibor. What the fuck is that? I don't know. Escape from Sobibor.

So Oh, yeah. Just so you see, I'm not fucking That makes absolutely no sense. I feel like even Ebert liked that movie. Yeah. Is 5%, audience score 45%.

Okay. But what I I also thought the screenplay to this movie fires on all cylinders. It's really well written. Yeah. And to take a movie that's supposed to have, like, a lead and 4 kind of, like, co leads and give them all a moment, baseball also gets credit as a sport for being just so goddamn filmable.

I will say and we've I talked about days of thunder racing movies, not my go to sport movie. Talladega Nights only for me. Well, no. That's not true. I like Rush.

We've talked about it. Yeah. Ford versus Ferrari. It's not my go to, but baseball movies, I think, are one of my favorite sports movies. I think they're just it's so there's so much I mean, it's just enriched in American pastime, obviously, and there's just like it feels like, you know, it feels like going to the game on a on a Sunday afternoon, having a beer and drinking a hot dog.

Do you drink? Drink. Fuck. Fuck. You wanna drink a hot dog, man?

Be swallowed the hot dog. Damn. Yeah. She's also the daughter swallows the hot dog. Oh my lord.

Oh my god. Hot dogs everywhere. I need to leaner, wiener, wieners. Too many hot dogs. We're all looking for the guy who did this.

Whose bag is this? I almost tripped over it. You can't cancel lunch. Anyway Also, Ben met Tim Robinson I did. At a point.

Yeah. He's a nice guy too. Look at Ben go. Yeah. We should be able to watch a little at a point.

We're gonna take a break, y'all. Us and the romantic senators need to spend some time in deliberation about some things. Romantic senators definitely watch porno work. That's All they do. Did you know that it's actually just Lauren Boebert?

She's a congress I don't get Oh, man. I'd I'd have to double check. She's the worst. Yeah. So I think I would say back then, I would probably give this for, what does he call them?

Warm for bats or Hats. Hats. For bats. Yeah. Hats.

Which technically is true for both because if you're in England, Ireland, Scotland, you'd call a golf club a golf bat. Oh. So hats for bats is correct no matter what. Oh. Way to go.

Pedro Serrano slash David s Ward. I would have given it 4, hats for Max. That's good. I like that. In, rewatching, I still had a very good time.

Movie holds up. It's very fun, very funny. Their work is kinda like what we talked about at the beginning. There were moments of lots of of people wearing native headdresses and things like that where they didn't that didn't necessarily bother me when I first saw it, obviously. And now I was like, oh, oh, right.

That's right. That's the thing that we did. Can I talk about why, like, there's a level of recognition that you have that I think I have? Yeah. But there's also a level of, like, well, this is what the MLB was at the time that I I don't think I can hold against the movie.

Yeah. I mean, I it's not that I hold it against the movie in any real Oh, I wasn't thinking you did. But, it was just something that, like, like, it distracted me, I guess. You know? I totally get it.

The the Jake Taylor, and Lynn storyline is a little bit, like, at times, I'm like, woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah.

Woah. That too. I was like, dude, she said no so many times. Don't show up at her place of work. Their chemistry and their energy feels very real.

Yeah. So sometimes it's hard to hold it against him, but you also can't stop holding you against him. Yeah. Tell me your rating. I gotta know.

I'm at 3a half. I'm at You went down? I'm just a half point, but not in any it's still in the same ballpark. That's good. So, you know, it That one's not still in the air or whatever.

He says, the list when I threw straight down the middle of this guy still hasn't landed yet. Yeah. 3 and a half hats for bats. Okay. I know that for you, 3 and a half is a pretty good score.

A pretty high score. Yeah. A pretty high score. But I would love to, hopefully I I just feel it does what it needs to do as a comedy. It's massively quotable.

And disagree with any of that. There I don't think there's anything the movie shot really well. I don't know. We're gonna get into it. Yeah.

Ben. Let's start the Let's hit the next theme. Start the movie. Strike the movie. Strike the movie.

Strike the movie. And now, our feature presentation. Kyahoga River opening. Randy Newman. Oh, my god.

The Kyahoga River. And, like, this the history of the Cleveland This movie? Baseball team. This movie was my only understanding of what Cleveland was. Cleveland City of Lights, city of romantic senators.

That and that and Robert Goulet, saying, the mistake by the Malay. What? Goulet. Okay. But, yeah, like, this movie, I was like, oh, that Cleveland, that doesn't look like a place I wanna go.

That's kinda how I felt too. The movies, like, when they're not playing baseball or indoors, mostly, like, really well lit, like, the restaurant scene in particular for me when they're indoors. Movies lit really well. Like, also the party that that Jake attends Uh-huh. Is all really well lit movie.

Some weird ADR, but well lit movie. We see we just see the his like you said, the history of Cleveland baseball. And I was thinking, I don't think of another movie where it, like, so puts such a a a actual professional sports team on blast like that. It's great. Apparently, David s Ward wrote the movie because, quote, he wanted to see the Guardians win something.

And the only way he thought he could get it done was making a fucking movie, And they don't even win woah. Don't spoil it. Don't spoil the movie. Spoilers. Spoilers.

Back it up. Back it up. But we meet the new owner. Yeah. Rachel has taken over for Donald played by Margaret Whitten, who's great.

Yeah. And we see that she was married to the owner, and she was Donald Phelps. Rachel Phelps is her name. A Vegas, showgirl. Right.

Yeah. And immediately to the board reads a headline, Vegas showgirl not qualified, not interested. Yeah. And her plan is to fill the team with a bunch of has beens and losers, and this guy here is dead. Then he crossed his name out.

Her immediately responding then crossed him off. Yeah. I so much get Jessica Walter in Arrest Development, like, in this performance. Like, there's just a level of cruelty, that's she enjoys that's really fun. Well, they're obviously already having poor attendance.

So she's like, it can't be that hard to get them to get even worse attendance than what we already have. They just have to be a little bit worse if they get last place. Less than 800,000 through the year, they can move to Miami, and she gets a mansion and a polo club membership. Question for you. In American sports, do you feel like there should be something similar to UK football where teams who are so bad for get regulated to, like, a lower league?

Oh, relegation? Relegation. Yeah. I do. Wouldn't it I think I do too.

It would help leagues like the XFL or triple a situations or NBA g league situations. Because I can tell you what, dudes, even if you're making $40,000,000 a year, if you're not competing for the championship, like, what the fuck are we doing here? Who the fuck are you talking to? That's what you assume anyway. Yeah.

I'm glad to know we will support this. Yeah. The the city feel and you meet everybody, like, they see who's gonna be on the roster, and they're like, this team's gonna suck. And the Japanese groundskeepers, like, they're shitty. Yeah.

They're always, like, they're they're so shitty. And everyone's seen it in the newspaper and be like, who the fuck are these guys? Who the fuck is this fucking fucking guy? Yeah. All the way through the movie, most of the fucks are related to, like, what is going on?

Like or a direct to a person. 1 of the 2. And they she gives the task to the GM, Charlie, to call or to to invite these people to camp. Recruit everybody here. Yeah.

In Tucson. And so we get the, like, classic, round them up We're getting the team together. Getting the team. Yeah. And we meet Tollbert.

You can at least say you were from the Yankees. Yeah. We hungover. Taylor a plane in a cactus league in New Jersey. And he's, like, got a girl drunk.

He's home. Bed with a sombrero on. Yeah. He's definitely not living his best life. And you can tell pretty much immediately that he's not necessarily thrilled about it just from that line.

If you're gonna fuck with me, at least, like, do a better job of it. I'm stuck in Mexico. Also, isn't it awesome He's Kenny Powers. Yeah. That's true.

Yeah. A little bit. Yeah. But it it's definitely, like, the Yankees are displayed here as the villains. And the Yankees As they should be always the villains.

Yes. They should always be the bad guys. Yeah. Always. This movie does that effectively.

Yeah. Know your job. Nobody likes the Yankees. If you're listening to this and you like the Yankees Express yourself, Bob. Probably don't love this movie.

Yeah. Peace it. When I feel blue. Yeah. Have I worn this shirt when we've been together?

Go for it. Jesus is on a cloud, and it says Jesus hates the Yankees beneath it. You know what? I think that is terrific, what you have right there. Really, I like that.

I wouldn't sell the I wouldn't sell the dealership or anything, but I'm telling you. We we used to go to the games all the time. And outside the stadium, we bought T shirts that said fuck the Yankees. Yep. And we had to cover them up.

And then at some point, we kept trying to get on the jumbotron Yeah. Of course. With that. It's intense. There's more.

Okay. What do you mind just skip to the end? To the very end. I hate the Yankees. Everybody gets rounded up.

Yeah. Jake and Willie Mays Hayes Well, Willie Mays Charlie Sheen. And Also So Willie Mays Hayes shows up to spring training. Yeah. And question about spring training, do they put people in, like, a military barracks like that?

Or I don't know if they stay on premises. I feel like they still like hotels or, like Full Metal Jacket like this movie. I think they're staying at hotels. I Most likely. Yeah.

So Willie Mays Hayes, Wesley Snipes crashes spring training as they're going over, like, Jake Taylor's had his knees blown out. He used to be with the team. Serrano Yeah. Shows up. Voodoo thing.

Yeah. And, Roger Dorn. I thought you said you didn't have any high priced talent. I forgot about him. He's just high priced.

That's a good line. As he's as Dorn's, like, pointing at dudes that are there, like, hey. Isn't it good to see me? Bleached blonde hair. So good.

Yeah. Great job, Corbin Berenson. This movie is Yeah. Cast so well. It really is.

Yeah. And even the folks that apparently were not great baseball players, it is a little thick with the slow mo as we talked about. Right? Yeah. Yeah.

But the movie does a pretty fucking good job of cutting it all together. They they take Willie Mays. They're like, in the middle of the night, they bring in a security team like this guy stuck into camp. And they literally just take his bed off of the top bunk and put it in the parking lot with his stuff. Yep.

While they're they're firing off starter pistols for guys to race. And he wakes up in the middle of the parking lot, and he's like, what the and then he just Did I get cut already? Yeah. And then he just goes sprints full back into one of the races. And, like, from a good 20 feet behind these 2 dudes Barefoot.

Just fucking roast them. Smokes them. And then Get him a uniform. Yeah. He's Blue Brown.

Oh, you get to mention that he's Blue Brown. Skipper. And Pepper who, when Rick Vonn shows up, says, look at this fucking guy. And that delivery, there's so many fantastic deliveries in this movie. Like, the movie is so well written and directed.

Again, just so quotable. I I don't know how many times in my life I've seen somebody and been like, look at this fucking guy. I mean, the football version of this, the lesser version of this in football is the replacements. Right? And I Yeah.

Which is, like, an entertaining I like the replacements. There yeah. There's no bad Gene Hackman, really, those canons. But it's similar in terms of, like, oh, this is a bad news bears situation. And these guys are all, has beens or or campies or whatever.

And so they're they're brought together at camp, and they are awful. They do a good job, as you said, of going over the weaknesses, like Jake's knees, Willie's hitting problems, Rick's control, Doran's fielding, Serrano can't hit the curve. Everybody has a problem. They make sure What's the older pitcher's name? Harris.

Harris. Who's played by Chelsea Ross who does a fucking great job. Damn it. He's good. Yeah.

And he's like a Jesus freak who's reading a hustler, which is so on brand. Oh, 100%. And he he's so against the voodoo guy. Oh, yeah. Because like, just based on, like, a religious assumption that if if he doesn't believe or isn't willing to believe or talk about, this guy must be bad.

Yeah. But, yeah, their team in camp is no Bueno. No. But by the way, how old is Eddie Harris? Like, how old is Chubb?

Well, I was thinking, how old is Corbin Burnson? Like, these guys don't I mean, you know, now you look at baseball teams and they're, like, 20 like, 19, 20 up you know? And, obviously, there are older dudes on But they're babies. Yeah. They're babies.

And I feel like this team is pretty full of guys who are in there, like, how how old is Charlie Sheen supposed to be? I don't know how old he's supposed to be, but if you wanna take a stab at how old some of these guys are, I know how old they actually are. Not Chelsea Ross. I should've looked that up. Name.

I wanna because it's he looks like a guy in his fifties. Yeah. He does. Yeah. He's probably, like, what, like, 40 Probably forties or fifties, but he's one I don't know.

I can tell you or you can guess. How would you like to do this? I'll just take a wild stab. Charlie Sheen. Okay.

29. He was 23 at the time of shooting. Who's next? Wesley Snipes. 25.

He was, I think, 27. Okay. Tom Barringer. 38. 39.

Yeah. Corbin Berenson. 41. 45. Okay.

So, like, you wouldn't have a starting 45 year old 3rd basement at any point in time. Yeah. And that's the thing is, like, he looks like thirties, maybe early forties. He's he's probably he plays a tiny bit younger. Yeah.

But as you were saying, it's like, oh, Charlie Sheen doesn't look like he's, like, 23. He looks like he's, like, 26 or something like that, older. Yeah. So, like, the the age range of, like, guys that apparently can play in the MLB or whatever is, like, wild in this league. But also Jamie Moyer for the Mariners played for a long time.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, a lot of pitcher a lot of pitchers in particularly Yeah. Play well into their forties. Well and Harris makes sure to Charlie Sheen, what's that shit on your chest after the 1st day of spring training?

They're all dressing down, and the big thing is red tags in the locker room. Like, if you get a red tag, you're cut. Yeah. And Charlie Sheen's like, what's that shit on your chest? And Chelsea Ross is like, Chrisco, Bardahl.

Like, I put I'll load my nose up and put snot on the ball. Like, I don't have an arm like you. Like, you won't have your arm forever either. And they're constantly checking their lockers for these red, and then they get their last cut day. And everybody is on notice because they know this is the last day.

And the line that I love from Behringer there is when he goes and he gets you his locker. He's about to open, and he's like, oh, come on, Jake. It's just your life. It's so good. It's so sincere.

Yeah. This is I've seen not inception, but every other Tom Beringer movie we've mentioned and some that we haven't. I think this is his best performance. It's really, really good. It's very sincere.

Yeah. It's good. But they put a fake one in in Charlie Sheen's. Yeah. He and he is not happy, understandably.

When he goes in and flips the chair and he was like, I'm gonna when I when I pitch against you, like, he's just going off on the Just tune up your fucking ass. And his skipper's like, well, that's great. I love players with passion, but I'm not cutting you. I I didn't cut you. I think someone's been having some fun with you.

Yeah. I will say the one story line for me that is not super necessary is the stuff with and I'm jumping ahead, but, Corbin Burnson's wife Oh, disagree, but we'll get there. Okay. No. Yeah.

I'm not trying to cut you off. No. I just it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't do anything for me. I don't understand why it's in the movie. Well, I I understand it.

Well, I understand it partially as, like, somebody behind the scenes was like, this needs to be here, maybe, but also we'll we'll get into it for sure. Sure. Oh, Lou Brown, dude, and Corbin Burnson. When, Lou Brown's like, every ball you hit up in the air, 20 push ups. Every time you don't feel the ball, 40 sit ups Yeah.

To Corbin Berenson, and he brings him his contract. I don't have to do any calisthenics I don't find necessary. What do you think of that? And Lou Brown just pisses on it. Oh, yeah.

That was great. It's that again, so much of this movie has even things of, like, a dude pissing on something in public is, like, fine wine. Great. Makes perfect sense. They finally they get their final team.

Yeah. Jake has made the team. He's like, hey. Pack pack for Cleveland, Rick and Willie and everybody. We're Serrano.

We're all we're going to Cleveland. And he, like, fantasizes calling his shot. Yeah. In an empty stadium, which is it's so fucking adorable. It's very deep.

We would all do. Of course, we would. Yeah. And he explains it very clearly in the movie. Some of these guys, it's their only shot.

For me, it's probably my last shot, and he just loves baseball. Yeah. You can really tell. And the way that when he hits the fake home run and runs the Phantom bases or whatever, when they're like, that was out of here when Willie and and Rick make fun of him, again, it's exactly how you'd rib somebody for shit like that. It's really good.

Yeah. And their friend we see we're seeing their friendship sort of start to, like, gel. Yeah. Yeah. Jake insists, like, we're gonna go to dinner.

Yeah. And he has to be the one to order it because Rick's like, do they have chili dogs in France? Can I get that here? He's like, what language is this? French?

He has the menu upside down. Rick does. Yeah. And he is wearing a tie with the, like, motorcycle vest. Yeah.

And he feels like a banker in this. Yeah. Reese vest. By the way, we should mention Charlie Sheen's haircut and general attitude and earrings and jewelry. Like, he's supposed to be a rebel.

He's got, like, a he's he's a prickly Pear? Guy. Oh. For sure. A prickly pear for certain Yeah.

And in this movie. In this fancy restaurant, he, Jake sees his ex who and he says, who's that? You know? Or he's like, yeah. That's my wife.

Yeah. And they're like, did does she know that? I think She was supposed to be. Yeah. And we find out that he, like, he screwed something up pretty bad.

Oh, yeah. And when Charlie Sheen's like, you want me to drag him out of here? Kick the shit out of him? And, like Yeah. Tom Berger doesn't respond and Charlie Sheen's like, no.

He's confused. Hey. What the fuck is going what is this? Yeah. And then he we get the little remit cute with his with, his ex, and they we see that she has a boyfriend or something with her.

Yeah. We've got a date or a fiance, but he's sort of decided he wants to rekindle this. And she's Must be destiny, I think he assumes. Yeah. And she's seems to be there is chemistry there.

Yeah. It's his ex girlfriend and ex fiance, whatever it is. Right? And I gotta say the move of calling her from the bar, that's a solid move. Yeah.

I think that's a good move. Also to get her away from that dude. Well, of course. You don't wanna put her necessarily in a bad situation, but he also obviously wants to assert himself. He's very clear about that through the movie.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very clear. Oh, yeah.

So we get our 1st game and the pregame with Harry Doyle for the first time. And and played by Bob Uecker, who's fucking fantastic. Gets drunker and drunker. He's already drinking. Yeah.

The first game, like, 1st inning, he's already putting Jack Daniels in his And his, coffee and shit. His partner is Monty. Monty, the best color man in the business. So who doesn't talk at all? Never.

Almost never. Yeah. And one great line from the sequel, and maybe I've mentioned this before, but my brother and I also quote this all the time. Bob Uecker goes, take it over for me, Monty. I'm in the bag.

And then he's just like One of my favorites. Glasses. And then there's this crazy, like, line drive with, like, a diving catch. Yeah. And Monty goes, line drive, caught.

Fly ball? Or a fly ball? Yeah. Fly ball. I also love that.

A cut. So memorable. Yeah. Very good. Vaughn is pitching in his 1st major league game.

There's nerves and various other things that are happening. We find out at a point, like, all sorts of stuff is going on with him. Right? But all hell breaks loose because Rick Vaughn hits this guy with a pitch. Yeah.

The Cleveland team loses, like, 9 0 Yeah. In a heartbreaker. In the first in the first game and Yeah. It seems like this is par for the course, though. Wait.

Who's our sponsor? Oh, Christ. I can't find it. To hell with it. And, like semantics senators, by the way.

And there's probably, like, 80 people in the 80 people. Like, there's, like, nobody watching the game. Yeah. Well, when Willie can't steal the base and everyone next to him in the in the other box starts making the jerk off motion, like, okay. Because it's like he was his it was the 1st lead off hit by a for Cleveland in, like, they said, like, 17 years of Cleveland.

Yeah. Several years. Anyway, so they're bad. And Really bad. And They just they're in last place.

We're just, like, leaping forward and everyone these cuts to the city are really great where it's just the same people who are talking about the team. Just seeing them be like, oh, last place. You were in Seattle somewhat during the Super Bowl period. Right? Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's a different feeling, right, when a team's doing really well. I mean, I was in Seattle during the bad years. Yeah.

Of course. During the good years. Yep. So yeah. I was mostly the bad years.

Yeah. Yes. Mostly I mean, some of the Matt Hasselbeck years. It's a it's there there's a different energy that the city has, and, like, people are wearing their jerseys around. Yeah.

People are you know, you're making eye contact. You're like, go hawks. I think I love you. Yeah. And, like, just starting I remember just being, like, in the middle of public places and people just yell and start Go hawks.

Yeah. Like, chant, and it would just, like, grow. And this movie just captures that energy really well as you were saying. Yeah. Like, because they're going through the city and people are, like, feeling, dude, this team, they're shitty.

They are terrible. And Jake's immediate move while the team is terrible and the whole deal is, you know what? Lynn didn't give me the right phone number. What does he say? That's a crappy thing to do to an old friend Yeah.

And just shows up at her job. And she's a librarian question? Yeah. She's built the so one of the better collections of some sort in America. Yeah.

And he read Moby Dick for her. He no. He never read Moby Dick. She's still sore about it. Are you still sore?

I never read Moby Dick. Is this the whale section? Yeah. Dude, when she's like, oh, what? Miss Detroit lubricant, whatever?

And he was like, she said she had a better body than you. I had to defend your honor, and no one's really paying attention to them as she keeps telling them to quiet down. Yeah. And then she goes, oh, bullshit. I have a much better body than her.

And everybody in the library is like, what? Much better body than she does. Who cares? It's great. Jake's just like she does.

Because you find out Jake was with her and was sleeping with other people, and she was still sticking by him through some of this Yeah. And finally had enough. And he clearly is trying to change and has changed. That's the thing too is, like, he does seem to, at some points, take some accountability. Some of it, he tries to brush off, like, you know?

Yeah. But he does definitely like, there's definitely effort at multiple points outside of creepiness. I think that yeah. I think yeah. The for me, the romance in this movie doesn't it's fine.

It's just not the thing that I go to the movie for. Well and I think this is maybe part of what I'm relying on trying to change your mind a little bit as as I do feel like the the baseball piece of the movie is great, but it needs something else. And this is when it's like, this needs a love story. It's like, oh, yeah. Actually, the second act of, like, this guy proving, like, I'm a leader of a team, and we were talking about the natural progression of the becoming kind of the player coach in the second film.

And Yeah. That's pretty good writing right there. Also, the writing device of the owner's main mission in this movie is to move the team. Mhmm. And she's like, I'm gonna make this team worse by any and all means necessary and, like, puts them on this janky ass plane.

Oh my god. I that they're repairing it with duct tape? Yeah. Out of that's a good fucking set too. It's pretty convincing.

Like, it's a solid little airplane set. Yeah. Their what's the word? Their facilities are just, like, crumbling. She keeps, like, downgrading everything intentionally.

It's like a it's an intentional escalation by de escalation. Yeah. And they do it pretty well in terms of the steps. And I like how inter like, they're on this vintage plane and these vintage things, and now they're all passing around like comic book versions of literature classics. Yeah.

And that's how Jake ends up reading Moby Dick. That's where it ends up feeling a little bit more like a a destiny thing, like he seems to feel in the beginning where it's like Moby Dick kind of lands in his lap when they're on this crappy in this situation. Mhmm. And he decides, like, okay. I'm gonna I'll I'll do this.

Yeah. That's kinda nice. But he's also like he does consider his insanity at a point before he follows her home, like he has a beer, and then still decides to go, which is like, how do you feel about this party? What do you think about Oh, the party he goes to? Yeah.

That he, like, crashes after he's like, should I do it when he follows her? Well, it's creepy that he follows her. And then, like, the elevator just dropping off in someone's house is weird. I mean, that's kinda dope. It's in some other, like, movie.

Remember that in 30 rock at all? I know you haven't watched all of it. Yeah. I that I mean, that's a dope. That's like a baller, I think.

I think it's funny, like, the way that the guests are talking to him, like, the whole Yeah. Cleveland has a baseball team? Yeah. We have uniforms and everything. Yeah.

It's really great. I know. It's the pause there. This is some of, I think, the some of the strongest acting by And by by Behringer. And the dick measuring between him.

Oh my god. Dude, so this is the attorney fiance, Tom, or whatever his name is. Any guy worth his salt, as soon as Jake Taylor stepped off the elevator, would have immediately be like, get the fuck out of my house. What are you doing here? Yeah.

Like, you're an invader. Get out of here. And this guy sees this as an opportunity to invite him in, and you said dick measure, where he he even gives him, like, the wrong glass for a beer. Like, I don't know. And Tom Behringer at a point goes, I make the league minimum.

Mhmm. And he's, like, beaming with pride. Like, I'm in the big leagues, baby. I got uniforms and everything. I'm good.

Yeah. And, he's he says, something will happen, which isn't a very adult way to look at things, not secure, not great. But the when the guy says, I just wanted Lynne, Renee Russo, to to see what she was looking at. Like, you're not you're no good. Yeah.

And it's like, dude, acknowledge that this guy's a creep and throw him out of your house. Yeah. And so it's, like, very good writing that, like, the other creepy guy in this situation, is even worse to a degree where he's willing to let this happen. It's encouraging. He has to prove he has to prove that he's better than him.

Yeah. It's it's a nice little writing device that makes for does it make the creepiness softer for you at all or no? It's still creepy to me. It doesn't make it softer at all. The chemistry also There's nothing wrong with the chemistry.

It's it's more and it's not even necessarily this movie's fault. It's just that this was just a thing in movies. Yeah. For sure. You know?

And it It was definitely of the time. Yeah. So I I that's not something that I think I will ever come around on, I guess. Yeah. It's just a a fact of the time, the male pursuer going continuing to bust down the door as much as they can.

But this is where we also find out that Rick Vaughn, who has not been pitching well through the year, be it's because he has bad eyes. Which is so funny that it took so long to like, he has he has a good speed, but he he has terrible targeting. The the control is awful. Yeah. Movies and good movie making are about control, same kinda similar with baseball.

Maybe that's why baseball works so well on film and the natural progression. I think it's also easier to film because it's a slower sport. Yeah. You control it's all about control. Like, you you can break it down however you want and make the progression where you want.

Build tension really well in between thing. Like, there's so many moments for filmmaking Yeah. That's not really available in soccer. You know? And soccer is just a ball going and to each their own, people love soccer.

But Yeah. It it's harder to film. Like, what are you getting? What drama are you getting? I like basketball movies.

You know this. Yeah. But it's one of those things kinda similar with racing movies where it's, like, the really good ones stand out from the others. What about baseketball movies? I watched that not that long ago, and it's a perfectly fine, like, dumb movie.

Yeah. I think it's perfectly fine. Yeah. I I love, the Jobu thing. So Serrano worships voodoo and has, like, an idol who has a triangle behind him, Ben.

He does. Yeah. Yes. I'm surprised he didn't pick triangles. He certainly does.

Didn't pick Jobu's. Didn't pick Jobu's rum. Chelsea Ross Harris drinks Jobu's rum, and it's very bad. Yeah. To drink Jobu's rum, you should not do that because that's what's He gets hit with a bat.

It's so good. That's what gets Vaughn to start. It's so good. Wild thing. You make my heart sing.

Vile thing. How can you give that 5%? Oh my god. It's him. It's Vaughn.

Oh my god. It's so great. Uh-huh. I so Dorn blows this play Yeah. Where Jake does the perfect thing where he says, like, come on, Vaughn.

We're professionals. Like that. Like, that's what a team leader does. Yeah. When he goes and so this is where he goes to Dorn's house.

Right? And Well, I gotta mention when Taylor Jake Taylor trash talks, like, saw your wife at the Capri Lounge last night. She's a vet she's a hell of a dancer. You must be very, very proud. Yeah.

Who was that guy she was with? Why did he have her panties on his head? Oh. Oh. I don't think it's got enough what did he say?

Uh-oh, Rexy. I don't think this one's got the distance. Yeah. That's Way to catch it. Her nice catch.

Don't ever fucking do it again. Lou Brown. Made me, when he did that, it made me think of Sandlot. Is that your sister out there? Yeah.

She's naked. I didn't think of that until you just mentioned it. That's funny. Another great baseball movie. Oh, yeah.

Great baseball. But, yeah, he goes to Dorn's house and just like, what do you want me to do? Die for it? Yeah. About, like yeah.

That's what 3rd basement do. Like, Adrian Beltre lost a nut. Like I mean, honestly, 3rd base is probably the hardest position, if not shortstop. 3rd base? Yeah.

Depending on who you're playing that day. Yeah. I played 2nd base when I played, but Okay. They put me at 3rd for 1 game, and I was like, oh my god. I'm terrified.

I mean, the ball comes off the bat so fast. Oh, no doubt. Well and because most are right handed and or switch hitting. I mean, you're gonna hit go against somebody right handed or switch hitting more often. And you guys have a solid arm.

Well, and, like, we were like, I was saying, like, there are dudes that have lost nuts Oh, yeah. Playing that position. So, Bob Uecker, man. In case you haven't noticed and judging by the attendance, you haven't. Like, we've managed to win a few, here and there, and the team is getting Better.

Pretty good. And And we see, like, the flash around the city of people. Oh. Actually, they're not these guys are actually not that bad. They're okay.

This is when the coach, Skipper, starts like, their facilities are getting, like, downgraded. Right? They're getting hot water. Yeah. Bus.

Their their their tub is broken, like the bubble tub or whatever. And the he's just hanging hanging brain while he's talking to the owner. I'm told to be diving in the lockers. Yeah. He's just sitting there with his dong out.

Yeah. And she, like all these dudes are, like, naked after a game. Like, she owns the team, but she, like, comes in unannounced, like, and is just being, like, shitty to everybody. Oh, yeah. Like, oh, these pipes are old, and it costs a fortune to replay.

We're trying. Yeah. And so she's figures like, oh, well, I can make them lose. I'll just keep downgrading all their shit. It doesn't work.

Contrary, because the GM actually wants the team to win and informs Ol' Lou Brown and, like, what's going on. Like, hey. The owner's working against you. And they keep winning to spite her, and Lynn comes to a game. And this is where I'm like, she sat close.

Did she wanna be noticed? This is where I'm like, did she wanna be followed? Like, what am I what am I to feel or think or believe here? Tough because there's no cell phones in this world. Right.

Because, like, you know, now you just be like, I'm gonna call them. I'll text them. I wanna come over. Like, can I come over? Like and you'd ask at this point.

Like, you'd expectation would be to ask Yeah. And not say, I'm doing it. But when he shows up and he's like, whose place are we in now? Like, that's a pretty solid line for me. And when she's like, I'm moving in with Tom, it's like, well, yeah.

No shit. We already know you're engaged to him. Like I know. You should be living together already. Yeah.

Like, doy. And you haven't lived together yet? When they are hooking up Yeah. Lynn breaks down. He kinda baits her where he's like, what do your folks think of this guy?

She's like, you're still their favorite. And so she's still, like, inviting him Mhmm. At this point. And when she needs the confirmation from him I like the way Lynn's written because Lynn, like, resists him, but it's also like then we get down this, like, weird slippery slope of the creepiness. When she says, you can find the the log line for Moby Dick in any library in America.

Who killed, what had saved, whatever? And he goes, quack quack quack quack quack. And, like, she needs to know, like, you put in the effort before she, like, hooks up with them. Yeah. Yeah.

They they do it. They do. And he And now a shitty bus. Now they're on a shitty bus. And and now the plot of the ownership is revealed.

And they're yeah. The team now knows that they're they're just on this team to tank, which just ignites a fire under their ass to be like, then we're gonna win the whole fucking thing. Yeah. You'll be released into free or be given your outright release. And he they bring in, like, the the showgirl cutout of the owner Rachel with, like, they need to win 32 games.

Yeah. And for every piece they remove is another piece of that revealed of the showgirl owner. Yeah. And if they have to only have to win 32 games, they've been pretty good. They have to win 32 out of 42, I think, to, like, get to, like, 92 But that if I did the math right.

That means they've been doing pretty well. It was a rough first third of the season, a solid I guess that's a small margin of error. You can only lose 10 games there. But, like, 92 and 70. Yeah.

Mariners went what this year? They I think Oh, I don't remember. Anyway. Alright, dude. When they go through the montage of the Indians winning, I love a montage.

It's such a great, like, storytelling device to, like, compress time and just, like, let's just keep this movie, like, 90 or a 100 minutes. Why not? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Let's just do that. Yeah. But the they go on this winning streak and, boy, those old royals, unis, man. Oh, they look good. The old mariners spring training.

Old Mariners jerseys. Yeah. Oh, both very good. They do an Amex commercial because it's like, you may not know us, but, like, we're one of the best teams in baseball. And most of them are okay actors except Dorn, who doesn't wanna deface this property Yeah.

For post baseball, and he's a fucking horrible actor. Yeah. It's a funny joke. Yeah. And I'm so glad we both like Major League too because for me, when Willie Mays Hayes slides in and he says, don't steal home without it, this is clearly the best actor in this commercial.

Yeah. So that he is in a movie, and the second movie is like, oh, yeah. Okay. Makes sense. Yeah.

That movie, Jesse Ventura. Ridiculous. When do because now it's we're getting to the point where it's like the they have there's like one game left. Right? Yeah.

The city's, like, fully in, and Dorn's wife sees him cheating. Oh, yeah. Which is misleading. I don't really understand. So she it seems like she stood by him and through his bullshit and been, like, a faithful partner through their marriage.

She knows who Jake is. Like, Doran and Jake have played together before. Yeah. And she's been good to him. And so as a retaliation, Vaughn's situation and Dorn's situation becomes more complex because Dorn's wife decides she's gonna retaliate by sleeping with Vaughn because she knows Dorn hates him Yeah.

Which has been established Yeah. Earlier in the movie that she would know. And good little piece of writing there. Her hairstyle is fucking insane. Yeah.

The dress is great. She looks great, but the hairstyle they put on her is fucking insane. Yeah. But then again, so is him. She looks like her she they go together perfectly.

Right? Yeah. I like that this is the thing that sparks Dorn into becoming a more vulnerable, real, feeling, motivated person. Like, he got a a real taste of his own medicine. It really wasn't even Jake that did it.

I think it was and Dorn becomes, like, really important in this thing, like, working out. And if his wife doesn't sleep with somebody else, I don't think we get to the point. Interesting. Because that's the thing that really flips the switch. I mean, it definitely helps when Tom Behringer, unblinking, looks you dead in the eyes and says But if you ever, ever tank another play like you did today, I'm gonna cut your nuts off and stuff them down your fucking throat.

Coffee, anybody? Jesus. Like, you you're reminded of his role in platoon where you're like Yeah. Yeah. Like, oh, man.

I I truly don't feel, and we'll talk about this again in a moment, that they accomplish their goal, which is we wanna at least make the fucking playoffs. Yeah. That's all we want is to make the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Jake shows up at Lynn's place, and she moved. She's gone. Yeah. She's gone.

She's gone. She's gone. She's Hall and Oates. You a big Hall and Oates guy? She's gone.

Do you like hall or oates? I have the both. Why not both? Do I have to choose? Yeah.

They don't like each other. We don't want anybody to choose between us. Well Oh, come on. Alien or aliens? Okay.

Fair enough. Point made. Ends up, it's the last game of the regular season to win the A. L. Pennant Yep.

Which is a great way to wrap it up because that was the goal Yeah. For the whole thing was, like, we're at least gonna keep the team in town. We're not trying to win the fucking championship here. None of you guys necessarily belong in the majors. It's, you know, it's and I like that about especially, like, Rocky or what have you.

And, like, it's it's not the biggest game ever. Yeah. It's it's it's a meaningful match or a meaningful game. You know? I think I like that.

They make it clear that it's part of, like, the soul of the city too. You know, I don't as a Mariners fan, when we made the playoffs, I understand that. After so long, like, that feel just doing that, you're like, got that monkey off our fucking back. We talked about this. This this happened.

I was in my I was I think I was in my mid forties, mid to late forties, fifties, when the mariners were like, there was a threat that that team was legitimately gone. Oh, yeah. Yep. It was, like, gonna happen. But, hey.

He's not the best color man in the league for nothing, folks. Monty. Here we are, the final game, and we get the Dorn and Serrano hits back to back. Like, Dorn run ones runs one out and Serrano hits the fucking curve ball. Just annihilates 1.

Uh-huh. And they needed they were down by 2, and so now it's tied. And this is, like, classic. Right? Dude, it's great.

I I love when Joe when Serrano says, you know what? Fuck you, Jobu. I'll do it myself. Like, the anti, like, IOL credit to whatever. It's like, no.

I'll do this. Yeah. I know he says, like, if you don't help me now, but I feel like there's, like, a shift in attitude where he's like, if you don't help me now, Jobu, I'm done with you. And then he goes, you know what? Fuck you.

I'll do it myself. Well, it's interesting because I feel like a lot of players, they're only so good because of God, apparently. I don't get that at all. You know that this is a pet peeve of mine. We've talked about this.

Like, it's like you didn't put in all you have a will that is hard to match, like, ex athlete. Like, come on. Give yourself some credit. Yeah. Like, I'd like to thank God first.

I'm like, oh, okay. Alright. Like, I there's a part of me as I've become a fucking logical adult where it's like when people are like, I wanna thank, like, my trainers, my nutritionist, whatever. But I also wanna thank, like, the amount of discipline I've had. Like, it's been hard.

Like, acknowledge, like, that you've busted your ass. People need to hear that. It's very important. But, obviously, that's not always the message that people wanna convey or hear or whatever. But wild thing.

Yeah. He gets out of that he gets out of that, He doesn't get to start. No. But he gets them out of a pickle. A really bad jam.

Yeah. And, hey, forget about the curveball, Ricky. Give him the heater. You have no idea how many times I've shoehorned and give him the heater in my life. So we're not gonna go into context.

And he goes up against the same guy who blasted him on his first time Clue Haywood. Yeah. He's like the guy that's haunted him. Every single player gets a moment where they overcome their weakness. Like, for an ultimate triumph, it's a really beautiful way to wrap up the movie.

Yeah. Everybody It's a really Everybody gets those, for lack of a better term, those monkeys off their backs. Everybody does. Like you were saying, like, Jake, Willie gets, like, the I he gets, like, a stolen home run or it's a hard home run. What I what I read No.

Stolen home run. And as we're talking about this classic thing would be, right, it's the bottom of 9th tied game. Tie or winning run is on 1st or whatever. Willie Mays Hayes gets on base. Yeah.

And it would be for Jake to go out with glory in a in a in a home run. That would be like He calls it. What you would expect. And I think that and that's what his dream is. We've seen him show us that.

His dream is to win it with that. Right? Yeah. And then when he does the signal to the coach, skipper, and you're like, that's a really fucking good idea Yeah. What the play actually is, which is genius because he calls the he calls a shot, and so everyone's on notice on the defense to be like, oh, this guy's going for broke.

He's going for broke. And, like, the the dugout when the pitcher, the Duke The Duke. Is pissed off at him Yeah. And throws at him. Like, everybody in the dugout is furious.

Like, because, like, that is their leader unquestionably. Like, that is the dude. And he calls the shot again. Calls the shot, and everyone's on notice. And Willie Mays is on second Yeah.

With a and he bunts he bunts. Jake bunts it. He bunts it. And I love when, like, the fielder goes, oh, shit. Yeah.

Whatever. It likes flow well. You'd imagine they're all playing back. Yeah. And so not prepared for a bunt.

And Willie Mays starts busting his ass, and Jake is tearing his knees apart, busting Yeah. Just running as fast as he can to first base. Because if he gets out, then the end of the it's the inning's over. Right? Yeah.

And they have to go into, extra innings. But he makes it, and Willie Mays goes rounds 3rd. And you hear you hear Bob Uecker like, Willie Mays Hayes is rounding 3rd. He's and the throw to home is not in time, and it's such an epic I mean, at you know, as as Mariner fans, like, the 95 slide is probably the best moment. Oh my god.

The look on King Griffey junior's face is cemented in my brain. Yeah. I and I Edgar Martinez, I love her. I had I had I had the gooseies during this moment in the movie. Like, even now, even after a 100 times.

Yeah. And that is so fucking hard to do, especially as we've talked about. Like, there are things about this movie that feel, like, very time period. Yeah. But there are so many things about this movie that are so fucking timeless.

Yeah. It's just so well written. And shot. And shot and lit and the comedic timing. And, I love that everybody like, I was saying, like, this this writing thing where all these characters get, like, this moment.

And Jake's big moment is he is willing to be a leader and act like he's gonna call a shot Yeah. Do a bunt, blow his fucking knees out so these kids get this one chance to be on a winner. And it's also he's he's eating humble pie. Right? Because he's he's the thing that he's always dreamt of doing, hitting a home run, winning it, he's going to That's a leader.

He he's yeah. Exactly. Yeah. He's not gonna do that because he knows there's a better way. He really his dream to to to achieve a bigger dream.

When he really wants it for the younger guys, you he really wants it for them. Yeah. They really sell that relationship with Wesley Snipes, Charlie Sheen, and Tom Graniter specifically. And the end is, you know, they win the game, and he he gets a girl. And on strategy, not a, like, a magical thing, a grounded thing.

And, you know, thinking of the sequel, it's a natural progression for him It is. To have blown his knees out and become a coach eventually and and Yep. One more for the skipper. You know? And Yeah.

The skipper I I kinda wanna watch 2 now. So do I. Right? And it's so hard to Tanaka. Is that his name?

The Yes. Yeah. No marbles. No marbles. No marbles to Serrano.

I love it. And I love that a few years after that, like, Japanese players in Major League Baseball in America, like, kinda started chirogue. Yeah. Taking the nation by storm. But this this moment where it's confirmed to us that not only does Dorn know that Charlie Sheen fucked his wife Oh, yeah.

But he's pretty fucking pissed Yeah. And decks him in the face. And this is my last, like, linchpin to try to convince you as you also mentioned, like, you love the score that this Dorn has this moment where he's like, I'm gonna punch you, and then I'm gonna hug you. Yeah. Because now Dorn is finally a man.

Like, it's really crazy that, like, Charlie Sheen is presented as, like, this dumb kid or whatever, but he's, like, very controllable and whatever. And especially after he gets glasses, like, you can be mad about things like you should probably be mad about. Yeah. But Dorn was like this high priced guy, like this bit, and he has this great progression Yeah. In this movie.

You're right. It's like it's a little weird, like, unheralded, like, we talked about co MVPs Mhmm. Earlier. 3 guys won that. And it's like, I'm gonna get I wanna give Corbin Berenson not only a little credit for the performance, but, like, that's I actually think that that's a really important piece because I don't think he does that if Jake doesn't only give him the business, but his Charlie Sheen giving his wife the business.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which is I I I think it's, like, weirdly necessary. It's it's weird to justify sex in a movie because so often it's so unnecessary.

Yeah. And Jake wins Lin. Yeah. And, uh-oh, I think this was our first rom com ish rom com ish. We can agree ish.

I'm still on the romcom side. I I think it becomes a romcom for the second act, largely. Interesting. Maybe. It doesn't need to be to be a great movie.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

We've talked about this movie. Yeah. We've talked about it. We're here. I've done my very best.

Are you I have to get my rating first, don't I? Yeah. You do. Fuck. I don't like that.

This is the first time I've really felt like a hard, like, how do I bargain with you? I still rate this 4 and a half uniforms and everything. Okay. I mentioned, like, some of the ADRs. Like, I actually don't love the score.

I think the score's good. I don't love the music. I don't either. I think that's a better exam that's a better word or better example. The music is rough.

I don't. There are times I do love the score. Yeah. The score, I think it's okay. The music choices, I'm like Yeah.

Sometimes it's great. So, like, it's like I have that that they they start off the movie with essentially. Like, it gets stuck in your head. It's like an earworm. Like the cording scene when he's, like, going after her.

It's weird. That song, I'm like And some of the lyrical songs are weird. Yeah. I do love when he takes the I almost wanna give it 5 stars just because he's they're like, take the, bullpen card, and he just takes, like, a baseball card with a baseball hat. Yeah.

I'm like, oh, theft. I do like this movie. No. But I'm gonna stick I'm gonna stick it 4a half. Like Okay.

I do feel like I was trying to do more convincing than I was getting convinced. Like, this was the movie I was I don't know why. There was a a, like, why did you go down? I didn't but I also really it's like there's a the creepiness factor. I I mean, again, I don't think 3 from 3a half to 4a half, that's not like, that those are that's all in the same ballpark to me.

Yeah. I You know? 4a half normally for me is, like, it would make sense if this movie won an Oscar or, like, a major award. For me, it does make sense that this movie were nominated for or won a couple different Golden Globes. I think it was one of the better Yeah.

Movies when I looked at some of the other comedies. I'll I'll go to a soft 4. Yeah. That's my max. That's so cool.

Yeah. I think I'll I'll You came back? I'm coming up coming back to a soft 4. Yeah. Yeah.

I love that. I I think I watch this every year during or if not before baseball season. You know, it's fun. It's been a It just gets you in the movie. Been a very long time since I've just sat and watched it.

I realized recently, actually, I don't rewatch movies as much as I used to. Like, I don't just I am still pretty bad. I don't just choose a movie I've seen to re I don't know. I used to do it a lot, and I haven't as much. I've definitely been trying to watch more new stuff.

But I I mean, there are comfort movies that I've watched or come back to where I mean, I'll totally admit that. I mean, how many times have I watched Time Cops since we started this program? 33. Well, we gotta get out of here, and Thank you for joining us. Yeah.

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