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Twister / Side Saddle + Ace in the AM (Guest: Sara Coates)

Ben McFadden & Paul Root Season 2 Episode 10

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We were able hop in the traffic chopper and escape the "suck zone," with our wonderful guest, actor/writer/voice over artist/mocap legend Sara Coates (Z Nation, Resident Evil 7 & 8). We observe the destruction and carnage left by "Twister," (1996 Dir. Jan de Bont) Starring: Bill Paxton (RIP), Helen Hunt, and Jami Gertz. Are tornados based on an indvidual mood; like "vibes?" Did the truly cool kids make up nicknames for themselves? What qualifies a phony do(u)c(k)tor? And boy, we sure picked the wrong movie, on the wrong day, with the wrong drinks, but we hung in through the storm!

Plot: Two storm chasers on the brink of divorce must work together to create an advanced weather alert system by putting themselves in the cross-hairs of extremely violent tornadoes.

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Hey, everyone. It's Paul. You're probably asking yourself, why in great Caesar's ghost is this psycho talking to me right now? Well, it's very important that I let you know despite our best efforts. It could be Zoom.

It could be our mics. It Could be GarageBand. Yes. I edit this in GarageBand like a psycho, so you don't hear umms and ahs and me saying, oh, the listeners are the review reviewer SOBs. But, the audio is a tiny bit rough.

And it's mostly me, so you get that little break slash reward. But stick with us. This episode is amazing. Sarah Coats is amazing. We had the best time.

So please forgive us for the slightly rough audio quality and enjoy Side Saddle and Ace in the AM. Talkin' twistin'. Matt, will you send all the Internet to this computer? Yeah. Oh, cool.

I'm sorry. You I made it say you can do that? Welcome. This is the review review. We are here.

This is a podcast. It is a movie podcast. I am one of the hosts of this podcast. My name is, Benjamin, and Holy shit. To my right is the other host of this podcast.

I'm his cohost. My name is Paul. Well, you're my co wait. No. Yeah.

You're my cohost. I'm his And he's We have a guest with us today, and it is an honor to have Sarah Coats. Welcome. Oh, I'm so excited to be here. Truly jazz Thank which I really appreciate.

I'm honestly jazzed fingers, ready to ready to talk about this film, ready to hang out with you guys, ready to drink my rose. I have to ask really quick because I read the, like, quick blurb you sent us before we get into, like, what you wanna promote or anything about you. Do we get to meet I we met, I think, your partner. We met Matt. You guys are right here.

Matt can play another hello on Mike. Hello. Matt. Great. But, also, your soulmate, Is there I do have a soulmate.

Can you hear me now? Please. Matt's not his soulmate. Your soulmate has come to me in this lifetime as a French woman. God.

Look at him, Ben. This is the first brows. This is the We're gonna get somebody to demand There you go. I was ready. You heard the groundhog.

I was ready to shut up, like, in the history of time. But, no. This is the first time we're gonna get people that are gonna be like, you guys need to do a video podcast. We need to see that dog. Yeah.

I was curious if I had to be, like, somewhat presentable, but I was like, it just I it doesn't you know, here we are. It's a podcast medium. It's voices. If we But you guys look great. If we were smart, we would definitely use You guys are some of the Zoom stuff in video format, but we're not smart.

No. I and I'm lazy. So Yeah. Maybe one day guys are really smart. Well, this is Welcome to our lazy idiot show.

We're so glad you're giving us your time. It's not, like, bagging on our podcast. It's okay. Sarah, you are a Give it a call. You are, an actor.

And tell the people who listen to this podcast more about you. Oh, god. It's like sending my bio. It's it's a it's I don't know. I know.

I know. But listen. Oh, but I'm gonna tell you about me. Okay. Hi.

I was on a little show on sci fi network called Z Nation. My character's name was Pie Girl. She became really popular, in Brazil. Who knew? Woah.

And, so a voice over actor and motion capture actor in Resident Evil 7 and 8. I play Marguerite Baker in 7. Wow. The main twin. And, you know, like I said, I have a French bulldog named Ruben Ringels that a psychic once said, we have lived many lives together and that Ruben is my soulmate, and, normally, he's my husband.

Or wife or partner. Depends. Yeah. She also said that he wishes that he could live inside my throat and breathe with me. And I was like, I didn't need the psychic to tell me that because I know.

Did the psychic connected. Did the psychic I was like, that's Paul's mother. Okay. Just checking. I absolutely I gotta check.

My brain well, I met her at Fashion Square Mall. Yeah. And she doesn't have a website. She only like, it's word-of-mouth. So somehow I got her phone number, got a a meeting with her, and she just sits in a cafe and drinks cappuccinos, and you just, like, walk up and there one lady leaves or one person leaves and then you sit down.

And then you have an hour and then you leave. She said to me Oh. That your dad my dad has passed, r I p. She said your dad says hi, scooter butt. I never told anyone that my dad called me scooter butt because I and it's not like a they're a bear.

Like, you would that would come to you. That's a fucking great nickname, though. That's a great nickname. That's a That's a what? He's a he's a funny man.

He's a funny man. Made me believe in psychics. I can't wait for you to be my mom and for you to be my new mom. I Wow. Paul wants Paul wants is wonderful.

Paul wants me to be his daddy. I mean, daddy. That's why we started this podcast. Daddy. Anyway, Sarah brought us a movie, which we're gonna talk about ad nauseam.

It is a movie called Twister. And before we get too far into that, I have to ask Paul, how are you? Piece of shit. Yes. Damn it.

Yes. Okay. What Sometimes maybe we shouldn't do it to the guest first. We we are really good at surprising and upsetting guests if we can pound that even more. I think every time they're on this podcast, they're surprised and upset.

Yeah. I'm dealing it. I know I would be. I'm bigger than my toys. I'm whatever.

I was telling you about this earlier. I have a cat named Binx that also, like, I'm starting to be like, dude, you look kind of like Joseph Stalin, which I don't love. But got him a new toy, like a tube thing, and he's just, like, running through it and having a ball. And also, like, I drove over here listening to the Schwarzenegger movie soundtrack sounds, and I drove like an absolute maniac. And I really enjoyed the shit out of it.

That's me. That's you? That's me today. Sarah, how are you? This is the hardest question to answer.

Medium? Okay. It was the solar eclipse today. Yeah. So what kind of magic is happening in the air?

We don't know. And I also have an 18 month old baby. So it's day to day. It's second by second. I'm okay.

Yeah. Totally a valid response. Okay. That's fine. Yeah.

Just being a Yeah. So I realized we made a mistake because we should have been doing Twilight Eclipse as the movie today. Oh, we absolutely should. And that movie is a piece of shit. A piece of shit.

We had to make one mistake one time at some point. Yeah. And apparently, not watching Also shit was the mistake. We're all we're all having the wrong drink for this movie. We all should be having martinis with a twist.

With a twist. Damn it. We may understand. But we not have us like Bill Paxton, so we can have smell twisters of the Speaking of RIT, man. By the way, Ben, like I know.

So you're not doing well because you don't have the cocktails you want? I'm doing pretty good. I mean, I got to theme for cocktails. I got to actually watch the eclipse with proper headwear on, like, our former president. Cool photo, by the way.

My eyes, the goggles do nothing. Yeah. I got to, like, put on the actual glasses and watch it, and I was just like people kept taking pictures of me. They're like, you're not even moving. You're just staring at it.

I was like, this is fucking nuts, you guys. I don't know about you, but, like, this is fucking cool. Yeah. And I love it. I'm a huge avatar, the last airbender nerd.

So I'm like, we have to attack the fire fire nation right now. Firebenders get their power from the sun. So this is the time you attack. That kinda jazzed me up. I was really digging that eclipse.

It was it was cool. I will say I wine drunk ordered a spaceship disco ball a couple of nights ago by accident, and it came yesterday, and the eclipse hit it. And my whole room was filled with little half moon. Yeah. That's very cool.

Little rustling. So I was like, oh, okay. This is magic. That was meant to happen. And Oh, yeah.

That clients, baby. Yeah. We had a bunch of, calendars at at work, and we were all just holding them and showing them. And you could just or you could just make a, like, a circle with your hand, and it would do a little crescent. Yeah.

As long as you weren't doing the the white outline. Yeah. Don't do that. Everyone was doing this. I was like, you guys, you should stop.

Oh, no. Don't feel like It's good. Hey. You look at your hands? The baby looked at you?

Thought I was a piece of shit. Yeah. I was making a Simpsons reference. And the baby looked at me. Baby looked at you?

You're making it. I think you should leave reference. It smiled at me. Oh. I'm not a piece of shit.

And it's all successful. All successful. Yep. So this is the part of the program. Before we get too far into, the classic Twister, we're gonna talk about what are we watching.

Sarah, would you like to go first? I think I think Sarah should. I'd love I'd love to go first. As I said earlier, I have an 18 month old baby, so I'm watching a lot of Bluey. Oh.

I don't know if you've watched Wait. What's what season are you on? What season are you on? Oh, I've watched all 3 seasons. I'm just kidding.

I don't know. I'm just kidding. There are 3 seasons. It's an adorable show and wonderful for parents. I'm also not watching any prestige television at the moment.

I'm a big and you guys probably won't like this. I'm a Bravo gal. She loves her bravo reality TV show. In the background, I think any real housewives wife is the most complicated woman on TV. Those are character act studies.

If you wanna study crazy people who walk in a life with reckless abandon, watch that. I also yesterday, Matt and I watched all of the Hunger Games. Okay. Even the new one? So that was a no.

No. No. No. No. Until mocking.

No. No. No. No. No.

All the J Law. The J Laws. Yeah. All the J Law. I haven't watched those yet, but I it was a fun rewatch.

I haven't watched them since I saw them in the theater. It was grittier, and I think I'm so used to Marvel movies that when I went back to see the first Hunger Games, I was, like, waiting for a little, like, shine and sheen, and it was grittier and more handheld. And it felt I was like, oh, this movie's good. Didn't did the because didn't the director of the first one get fired after that first one and they Yeah. Because so Lawrence?

I don't remember. Yeah. Who do you know who the directors are? Yeah. But I I do know that it was a different director for the other ones because I believe there's a night with the fall.

I just remember the really bad, like, face paint moment where he's, like, hiding, and he's like, I'd I'd decorate cakes. And somehow he was able to, like, expertly paint on his face like the a rock. So that's the justification? Yeah. I can't wait to talk to my wife watching.

I will say that is embarrassing. It is. I was like, oh, I can't. Yeah. I just wanna say, as we're talking about what we're watching, I'm gonna can I I feel like this is such a good transition for me?

You grabbed this. Sarah, did you say all the things that you're watching that you wanna talk about? That's that's it. The those are the things that are in my mind right now. Okay.

I don't wanna cut you off, and I wanna cut that off. Sure. I'm I I am not always prestige TV. I have divulged on this program that I watched 90 Day Fiance and 90 Day Fiance, the single life. But, also, I watch Is It Cake Okay.

On Netflix. It's hosted by Mikey Day from SNL if you don't watch. And the show has been retooled to not only be more competitive, but also play play up a little more to, like, the family dynamic and be really appealing across, like, like, all fucking quadrants. It is mesmerizing. It is incredible, like, that that show is pulled off the way that it is, and the context is what it is.

And I'm not a huge binge watcher, but, like, I will slam through a season of cake. Okay. It's really fucking fun. Mindless and something you can have on the background and whatever. As we just watched a movie with fucking incredible audio that you know homies went hard in terms of, like, we are gonna make the home audio experience fucking insane for this movie.

Oh, yeah. I got the Steelbook of Cliffhanger not too long ago. I really love that movie Yeah. For a lot of reasons. But holy fucking shit.

Watching it at home, SteelBook remastered for home theater, approved by Reddy Harlin and shit is unexperienced. Like, I wanna take that from 3 and a half fucking whatever pickaxes, model helicopters, whatever you want it to be. Almost like 4a half because the audio on that steel book is so good. It's a 3a half movie, but, like, I will rewatch that again with volume cranks. It's a 3a half movie, but but with but the audio is 4 and a half.

Sure. Yeah. That's an excellent way to put it. Like, let's just differentiate it. Yeah.

But that's me. Is it cake in classic fucking Stallone, baby? I love it. Lithgow, Michael Rooker, and Janine Turner. What's this about is it cake?

Please. Do they try to chop something that isn't cake? So, like, some things are cake? So I thought you should explain what the show is. Yeah.

Do they, like, just, like, cut a CD player in half? Yeah. So Let me ask you. Like, are they taking an IP CD player? They'll take, like, a pair of headphones or, like, they'll be like, here's a bedroom.

Pick out the 4 things in this bedroom that are cake, and they're, like, hyperrealistic cakes. And the bakers will pick those out, and they'll pick an item from the bedroom to make, like, oh, I'll pick I pick the headphones, and then Replace 4 sets of headphones, 25 away from judges 25 feet away from judges, and they will need to say which one is cake or not. And, like, they get fooled, like, regularly on what is or is not cake, like, hyperrealistic rocks and fruits and animals and all kinds of cool shit. People. I love this black meme we're living in.

It's like, this is me transitioning to, like, the, like, well, idiocracy's happening anyway. I'm You thought over me. You thought this was your baby. It's not. This is cake.

That's what I want from Where's my baby? Where's my baby? Welcome to Trainspotting 3. Is it cake? There's a really Oh.

What am I watching? Tell me. Won't you? Yeah. What are you watching, Ben?

Tell us. I'm watching some really fucking solid animation right now that I wanna talk about just very briefly because I watched season 2 of invincible. I'm watching bad batch, which is almost done. It's in its last season and Which is the Star Wars property. Right?

If you're not familiar, which, like, I've I've never watched it. And it is and x men 97. All 3 of them Show fucking rules. All 3 of them are so fucking good. If you for me, Bad Batch is the best of all of their animated properties.

And this season in particular has really grown and learned a lot from Andor, but it's some of the most beautifully shot and framed and lit. I'm watching this animated show, and I'm like, I don't understand this lighting. I don't understand. I don't understand the shading. I don't, like, I don't it made me question, like, how animation works.

I'm I'm Oh, woah. I don't understand it. And Invincible is also I don't know if you've watched or started Invincible. Really, really, really solid. That aside, those three things are great.

They're based on, like, preexisting IP, and, of course, like, they're gonna slay. I feel like you're gonna drop a bomb on me or something. I mean, they're setting me up for something bad. So you're giving me a lot of good stuff there. No.

Absolutely. And before you go forward Yeah. X men 97. So I watched x men in 97. Uh-huh.

Is this from where it left off? Yep. Stop it. Do they have the same voice over actors? Yeah.

For the most part. Everyone who's still alive. Yeah. Oh, that's so freaking cool. Okay.

Great. I need to watch it. Because I saw the poster or the, you know, the the little screen thing, and I was like, what? What is this? Okay.

Watching it tonight. Every time the intro turns on, and No. And it says, like, do you wanna skip intro? And I'm like, you get rid of that fucking button? What is that?

There are few shows that you're like, does anybody care about what's on here and how it's delivered to people? Because that shouldn't be there. It's solid. Definitely check it out. Anyway, just wanted to briefly talk about monkey man, which me and Paul saw, which I loved.

Original IP, Dev Patel literally just was like, holy shit. Nobody is casting me in the shit I wanna be in, so I'm gonna fucking do it myself. And I think that is mad respect. Yeah. And for that movie, it's so, like, kinetic and so, like, personal for him.

Like, it's so enriched in in Indian culture to the point where Netflix dropped it because it's very anti, Modi and the sort of autocracy in India that's happening. And they were worried that India would, drop Netflix. So Netflix I didn't know it went that deep. I know. So Netflix was like, no.

The original color of the the bad government in this movie was orange, which is the color of Modi's party. Mhmm. And they changed it in the movie to red so that Netflix wouldn't drop them and they still did. Woah. So then Jordan Put on you, Jordan Peele.

Yeah. Jordan Peele picked it up. So yeah. I Yeah. You know, like, his first movie directing Very impressive.

I was like, what the fuck? Anyway, so that's like 3 and a half high heels for me. Oh. Which if you see the movie, you'll fully understand. I'm kidding.

But then the other one that Jess and I started last night is, Renegade Nell on Disney plus. I saw the thing. I I what is it? I saw it, but I haven't watched it yet. It's not based on anything.

No previous IP, but it's this period piece fantasy with female leads, and it's great. And it's like Love it. It's all, like, set. There's no fucking volumes. It's not shooting on a green screen.

It's all shot on location, and there's, like, legit actual fights that happen in it that take money. And Jess and I are watching this going, how did this get green lit? If any of us had this thing, they would look at you and be like, cool. Write a book. Get out.

Yeah. Like, go write a book. If it gets popular, maybe we can make the show. But it's the creator of Happy Valley and Gentleman Jack. It sounds like the anti sucker punch.

Oh my god. In so many ways. It's like imagine sucker punch. That's sad. Basically, it's like it's it's just, like, real quick.

It's set in England in the early, I don't know, early 1800, and it's about a a a young woman who get somehow gets powers, and she's like a highway woman robbing coaches. So I got my powers today. No. You just smoked a lot of weed. I do.

I smoked a lot of weed. Good. Anyway, we can move on from what are we watching so we can talk about what we all watched. Archaeology is the search for facts. Bungemon.

I'm gonna go to the fact sheet. We all watched. Twister, it is an Amblin and Warner Brothers. 1996 is rated PG 13. It is an hour and 53 minutes.

The budget on this movie is, 92,000,000. Adjusted that is a 182,000,000. A lot. That is a lot. Opening weekend, May 12, 1996, made 41,100,000 adjusted that is 81.3.

Final gross, North America, 241.8. Adjusted 478,200,000. That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money. Final gross worldwide for her 94.6978,200,000.

What? I I did some quick math. That's way more. That's the most That we've done. Of all that we've said just now Yeah.

That's the most money. I've always said Just now. You did quick math. The quick math, and the final gross was the most. I just did quick math.

I did some on my, calculator here, and it just says boobs. Good. Oh. Mine says Great. Upside all.

Mine says hell. Yeah. We are. Weird. Can't wait for my math teacher to kick me out of class.

Oh, you're about to be. Other releases this weekend, original gangsters and dead man. I've seen dead man. Have you? I saw it one time on a VHS.

Sarah? I have the seen it. Johnny Depp. Classic. It's a Jim Jarmusch movie.

Jim Jarmusch western, you could say? Yeah. Yeah. Love western. What are do people have a favorite Jim Jarmusch?

I'm I really like coffee and cigarettes. Good movie. I like that movie. Ghost dog, way in the samurai is like a 5 star movie for me. I feel like the way it subverts the gangster movie.

I think it's Sarah, are you a Jorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorjorj be I am. Oh, I've seen Broken Flowers. A lot of people love that movie. I was just thinking of that movie. Yeah.

A lot of people do love that movie. Love some Phil Murray. Oh, until the and Sharon Stone? Okay. Okay.

I'm not a. I like that you have a candle back there. I look it looks like you're in, you know, like the power went out because of some twister. Oh. It's like the lighting's, like, very, yeah, specific.

Are you in your storm cellar? I am in my storm cellar. It was meant to be. And f 3 is on the way. In Los Angeles.

Well, that's not too bad. We can also talk about f fours. There's only one thing we don't talk about. Don't even think about talking about it. We're gonna talk about it.

Oh, shit. I'm surprised. And I'm sure it I'm sorry. I'm sure it exists, but, like, an a movie that's called, like, LA tornado. Linado.

Because, you know, when, like, in the same time frame when Dante's peak came out, there was volcano. I freaking love Dante's peak. Yes. I don't I thought of at all. I thought of Dante's peak a lot while watching at this time.

I've seen both of those, and I don't remember them. When I said I would rather be watching Dante speak Oh, wow. I said to myself Woah. That makes me wanna watch Dante speak. Makes me wanna watch it.

I don't know if we're talking about the movie yet, but I I can I can give you my reasons? Mhmm. Give me the Dante speak. Let's get we'll get there. We'll get there.

Give me the Dante speak to watch soon. Weekend top 5. This movie, The Truth About Cats and Dogs, The Craft, Primal Fear, The Quest. Top 5 films from this year, Independence Day, this movie, Mission Impossibly, The Rock, and Ransom. Give me back my son.

You're my child. You're my child. He's my child. You're gonna put that in there. Oh, yeah.

With many echoes. You're mine. He's mine. He's not my child. We don't need another hero.

Why did we all give Al Gibson a pass? I don't know. Other films from 1996, the Stupids, Carpool, Bogus, Solo, Screamers, Celtic pride. Celtic pride even if you are a basketball fan, which I never heard. Why but why do they call it why do they say Celtics?

Why are they called Celtics. But but you gotta dude, you gotta call David Stern's corpse. I don't know. 2 if by c, biodome, thinner, flipper, space jam, and the glimmer man. Everybody?

Does everybody know who the glimmer man is? You're gonna tell us. Steven Dombalowski. But do you know who it stars? Steven Seagull.

Oh. Still haven't had a seagull, really. Steven times 2. Really. They're really the same kind of guy.

Steven Steven. Other I already did that. Letterbox, average 3.2. Follow me on Letterbox. I'm at run b and c.

I'm at fall x badly. Sarah, do you happen to have a Letterboxx? I do not have a Letterboxx, but let me tell you something, friendo. Run bmc. It just hit me now.

I've never read it out loud. And now I finally after being your friend for probably 10 years Oh, yeah. Now I just read it and was like, that's incredible. That's incredible. Thank you.

And I and I'd like to know I'm curious. In your head, what was it before? Was this RunBeans? Yeah. It was RunBeans.

RunBeans. You know? And and you said it, and now I'm with you. Now I get it. I was you know, because mine you sign up for Instagram before you knew you needed it for whatever, and mine scoots.

Like, it was just kinda what people called me at my at my job at the time. So, oh, you know out of 10. I always wanted a nickname in my life, and I never got one. 1? Yeah.

I earned 1. Yeah. No. I never did. Ben.

And but then but then I was What's this? What? A nickname was the only thing I ever wanted as a child. Okay. So I need you to tell me why tell me more about your nickname journey.

No. No. No. It was I was playing flag football in well into my adulthood in my twenties. I've played with you.

And my friend, Patrick, who was playing against me, he was covering me. He just turns, and he was like, you're gonna make me cover run BMC over here? And I was like, yes. That's my decision. No.

This whole world just opened up. And at that time, he was an Oakland Raiders fan, and they had Darren McFadden who was called around DMC, so it all made sense. And so, you know, here we are. What? Okay.

45 years later. It's very good. I, well, moved elementary schools. And when I went to my new one, I said to myself, I'm gonna tell them that everybody in my old elementary school called me in this name. And then And then I gave up with sidesaddle Sarah because hi.

My bike's side saddle. So I told them at my new school that all the kids at the old school called me, sidetrattle Sarah. As you yes. You did not catch on. And I don't have to cut any of this.

Right? No. Come to University of Washington. Oh, no. I did.

Twelfth night. I told this story. I'm on the path. 30, 40 feet down, someone screams, sidesaddle. People started calling me sidesaddle.

Funniest person in America yelled. Side saddle. And and it happened. I named my daughter Marigold June so she could be called Mary. She could be called Goldie.

She could be called MJ. She could be some nickname could come out of her name because I had no nickname. Yeah. So I understand this moment of run BMC Oh, yeah. Sticks with you forever.

I was gonna ask you if SideSaddle moved into college because that's the nickname that maybe you don't want in college. Wanted it so bad. I Oh, boy. Oh, wow. You know?

My petals stir up. Excuse me. S l. I love this idea of telling people what your nickname was in before and then it catching on. I remember one time I was on vacation with my grandparents.

We were at a trailer park in Yakima. And Oh, it's been a lot. It's been a lot. I'm sure I met Paul there. Yeah.

But I Spending the summer vacationing. I told a bunch of kids by the playground that my name was Ace. He just slid in some water. Just I am not gonna mention my nickname. I'm done with the segment because I cannot top or meet any of this.

No. But my name was Ace. Oh, and my stomach hurts. I mean, that's what kids do. You know why?

Because we are really cool kids. Yeah. Yep. That's what the cool kids did. I remember because the kids at all.

We were cool kids. The kids themselves. They're an ace. Because all your friends look here. They came to my grandparents' RV knocking, like, is Ace here?

And my grandparent my grandma was just like, Ace? And then I, like, ran You're out and fighting your grandma. I just ran out the door like, my grandma, I gotta go play. God. Okay.

I'm 99% sure there was a kid that was like, oh, hey. What's your name? And I was like, my name's fuck you. Like, I was that fucking shitty kid as you were like a base. I was trying to be cool, man.

I was not cool. This is not cool, man. You know what's less cool being like, I did fuck you. That's not cool. Alright.

We're gonna get back on. Back on schedule. Oh my lord. You gotta give me a second. I'm sorry.

My face hurts. Go ahead, sir. Okay. Paul's dying. Sysco and Ebert, 2 thumbs down on this movie.

Losers. Rotten Tomatoes gives this movie 63%. Metacritic 68. Major award nominations, it had 2 Oscar noms for best sound, best visual effects. BAFTA winner for best visual effects.

It's a big one. That is a big one. I'm gonna throw it to fuck you over here. Thanks, Ace. You're a shitty kid.

Hey. Welcome to Fuck You and Ace. This is LA in the morning. What do you think is that? The cop?

What's going on up there? Do you see some traffic? What is balance sheet? Out there. Yeah.

Thanks, sidesaddle. What about you fuck you? I can't do this. My fans, I just got crowns into my face. Oh, I love that.

I wanna play along. I can't. We've broken Paul. I've never seen him break. Oh, that's good.

I love that. Okay. Okay. Fuck you, everybody. The director of this movie is I'm gonna give it a shot.

Young DeBont. Speed? Speed 2. Cruise control. Because that's what everybody put it in.

They hit about 25 and went, yep. That's good. And the haunting. That's such an Polyam nation. Yeah.

Which is based on the same story of house, on a haunting hill. The house on haunted hill? The the Haunting of Hill House? Haunting of Hill House. Got it.

Same story. Michael Crichton, RIP. Rising Sun, Runaway, and Anne Marie Martin. This film, they didn't seem like there was much I I don't like this man. Oh, yeah.

Sure enough. Oh, got it. I thought you were gonna see Michael Crichton, and I was like No. So was that. I was gonna be more offended than that.

Crichton was the author that I read the most as a child. I read a lot of that for in terms of fiction. Yeah. Do you have a favorite Crichton? Story book?

Yeah. Like fiction book. Not not related to the book. Not related to the movies. Sure.

Fear. Okay. That book is fucking awesome. Yeah. That's my number 2.

Are are you a Crichton reader, or were you? My brother was a big Crichton reader, and my brother was also the person who would read a book and then tell me the entire book. And he'd we do that for every movie too. Like, he'd spoil everything. So he spoiled since for me.

He's spoiled. He's 5 years older than me too. So he would, like, force me to listen. Would read a Crichton and then tell me about it. But Bummer.

Loved. Mine by a hair is the lost world just because it's so unrelentingly violent, and I was into that kind of stuff. I love honestly, there's not a Crichton book that I didn't like. Timeline is really good in that movie. I'm just like, oh, sphere to a degree too.

Yes. Director of photography, Jack Green, Unforgiven. Serenity, 2ndhand Lions. I've known from this program. Music was Merv Mancina, fair game starring Cindy Crawford, and you're fucking Billy Baldwin, aren't you?

That's forgetting Sarah Marshall. Assassins and Moana. Moana. Really fucking disgusting. I've been standing the edge of the water.

Sorry. Producers, Ian Bryce, Saving Private Ryan, Transformers. You did. It was Steven Spielberg, ET, Schindler's List, also Transformers. Yeah.

I'm Steven. He's a fan. Wow. You're gonna hear that echo now too. And Kathleen Kennedy who produced Congo.

Bad gorillas. Bill Paxton, Oliver Crichton. I p. Yeah. RIP.

That is a that's a good Crichton, not a great movie. RIP, Bill Paxton. Predator 2, weird science, one false move, criminally underseen film, really, really good Carl Franklin movie. An alien dollar sign, the proven to be number 2 ranked film by this stupid thing that we do. You know, people used to always say, like, Bill Pullman and Bill Paxton.

They could Oh. Come and get views. And I'm like, I know those 2 gentlemen very well. Yeah. Very different.

Very different. Very different. Day and night. Yeah. Love them both.

Helen Hunt plays doctor Joe Harding. Gotta cheer into that. A doctorate. Some work. As good as it gets.

Good times in noodle salad. Ride, Bob Roberts, Terry Ellis as Jonas saw the princess bride, kiss the girls, days of thunder. He plays another douchebag in this. He man, it's like his wheelhouse. Philip Seymour Hoffman, RIP.

Yeah. Dustin or Dusty, the master, along came Pauley. Rain dance. I don't know if I've laughed harder when I'm stoned than him shooting a basketball, yelling rain dance and air balling it. I don't know if having to poop.

I don't know if I've laughed harder than him and along came poly where he goes, I we have to get out of here. I sharted. Yeah. That that's enough to talk. We have to go.

We have to go now. And he gets very intense. It's really good. Sarah, have you seen a long game of poly? Do you want to?

Yes. Yes. Yes. It's a long game of poly. I don't remember that moment, but I I'm also a I'm a teenage boy ever.

So Oh, well, he also is the last production, the Jesus Christ superstar. He's like he's playing Jesus and Judas. It's it's amazing. Amazing. Oh, I have a brief Philip Seymour Hoffman story.

Oh my god. Go on. It has to be with my husband. He was really good friends with Sam Rockwell, and I was in a movie with Sam Rockwell. And we went to Sundance, and the after party, Philip Seymour Hoffman came to the after party.

And I had left Matt by himself so I could go around with someone and, like, chat with people. And I came back, and Matt is eating spaghetti with Philip Seymour in the corner. 2 of them were just eating spaghetti, and I'm like, hey. I used spaghetti spoon. And he had seen the movie, and he goes, you're fucking funny, Coats, because he was talking to Matt, and Matt said that's my wife and blah blah blah blah.

And it was a really it was a really sweet moment. He was a really lovely man. But Matt shared a plate of spaghetti with him. So He's amazing. Will you please credit drop what you were in with Sam Rockwell?

Oh, it's, Keira Knightley, Sam Rockwell. It's called Laggies, l a g g I e s. I always spell it. I'm gonna put it on my letterbox. The Sam Rockwell is one of my favorite favorite favorite favorite favorite actors.

He is a dream. I have a sliding doors moment with him. We were going to that party where Matt had spaghetti with Sam Rockwell I mean, with, Philip Seymour Hoffman and 2 vans to take us to said party. Sam Rockwell opened up a door and said, come here, Sarah. Sit on my lap.

But Matt wouldn't have been able to fit in that van. So I had to go in a different van with Matt, and we talk about that being my sliding doors moment. Like, I could have gone with Sam Rockwell, sat on his lap. Maybe romance would have began. Maybe we would have somewhere else.

But I love Matt because I love him, and I wanted him to get into the party, and I didn't wanna leave him behind. So that's my sliding doors, and I think about it all the time, actually. I gotta say too, like, I saw him for a mo he's a handsome devil, Matt, so I don't blame you. Oh, I thought you said something. Matt is also both.

Like, come on. So that's the best. I'm gonna I'm gonna also, like, hard shift from along came Polly for Philip Seymour Hoffman to Magnolia. Oh, sure. Oh.

Very hard shift there. Jamie Gertz, doctor Reeves, doctor Melissa Reeves, as it were, 16 Candles, The Lost Boys, and Solar Babies, the great, the wonderful, the incredible, Alan Ruck. Not that everybody isn't. As Robert's Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Speed, Star Trek generations, Succession The perpetual perpetually nominated Alan Ruck and not he's always the bridesmaid, never the bride. Right?

Because he's always nominated. He never he's always there like, I'm here. I'm not gonna win. Well, on a quick not really fun or entertaining fact, I finished reformatting, retouching up my script, and I'm keeping my little, like, Alan Rock moment. I dream, fingers crossed, that I get Alan Rock in my movie.

I believe in you. It's it's a big fantasy of mine. Sarah, would you read some fun facts for us? They're fun. I would love to read some fun facts about the movie Twister.

Fun facts. Fun facts, everybody. It's fun fact time. Go ahead. I'm no worries.

Well, a recording of a camel's moan was slowed down and used as the sound of the tornado. That's incredible. That's incredible. It's awesome. Sound design on this movie is like I was thinking that while I was watching it.

I was like, what? How did they create that noise? Yeah. It was great. I have a fun fact that's not on your list, and I was just hoping that I could add it to the fun facts.

It's just when Matt that Bill Paxton is the only actor who has been killed by a predator, a terminator, and an alien. Awesome. That is awesome. And a tornado no. He didn't die.

No. He didn't. But, like, so rad that, like, he's got, like, the sci fi action triple crown. Yeah. That's pretty cool.

That is pretty cool. Oh, you're out. With one of the loudest and most bass heavy surrounded channels produced at the time, this film was notorious for destroying surround systems in theaters worldwide. That's so crazy. They were not ready.

I do love this fact. This is the first ever film to be released on DVD and the last to ever be released on the short lived h g DVD format. So bizarre. Yeah. I love that.

How bizarre? Why? How how bizarre. How bizarre. How bizarre.

Good answer. How bizarre. In a public q and a at a at a screening of this film, Bill Paxton said he didn't meet executive producer Steven Spielberg until a year and a half after finishing the movie. He said Spielberg greeted him with a, thanks for making me a lot of money. Tom Hanks was the first choice for the role of Bill Harding, but dropped out during preproduction.

While on the set of Apollo 13, Hanks felt that Bill Paxton was the perfect for the part in the film and helped Paxton land the role. Here are others that were up for Bill Harding. We got a Mel Gibson. We got a Kevin Costner. Dennis Quaid, John Travolta, Richard Gere, John Cusack, Nicolas Cage, Bruce Willis, Val Kilmer, Kurt Russell, and Michael Keaton were other considerations.

Holy shit. From that list, who would have you wanted to see? If you could pick 1. You have to pick 1. Because of the care like, I'm casting this movie.

I'm a casting director. I think the other person that rings true air closer to this role would be Kevin Costner. Oh. Oh. I feel it too.

I feel it too. Personally, I would would like to see the Val Kilmer version of this because I was very attracted to him. I think I think he's too handsome for this. He is too handsome, and that's his problem. But I think I could also do a Dennis Quaid.

I can see Quaid. Said I can yeah. But I I could see 96 Dennis Quade. Yeah. Give it to me.

Yeah. I think this movie is perfectly casted. Bill Paxton, I wanna make sure I say that because I'm just, like, such a fucking Bill Paxton sucker. Yeah. He's just so goddamn good.

But Bill Paxton's nice. If I'm pushing all my bullshit aside, it's like a coin flip between Keaton and Quaid. Oop. But if I get my personal dream casting, and I have a feeling Ben thinks he knows what I'm gonna say, you're wrong. It's Kurt Russell.

Oh. I want Kurt Russell in this movie, like, real bad. I want to be Russell. So fun. What what did you think I thought that you thought?

Cage. Yeah. Oh my god. There's a tornado coming near us. I love Cage.

I love Cage. It's fun with Cage. And he has and he has to have the mullet. Come here. Come here.

Come here. Come here. Come here. Come here. Come here.

Come here. Come here. Come here. Come here. Come here.

Come here. Come here. Come here. Come here. Come here.

Come here. Come here. Come here. Come here. Come here.

So great. But Kurt Russell, man, I just feel like he'd have so much somewhere near the level of fun that Bill Paxton has. But do you understand why I went with Costner? Oh, god. Yeah.

Okay. There's a self seriousness or a seriousness of approach that this movie has that he has that fits well. You both Quaid also, like, you both did great. I think we all did great. Stars all around.

Last little fun fact for us, Sarah. Todd Field, who plays Belk Surfer, is the director of tar in the bedroom and Little Children. That's cray I know that's crazy. Water resin. Okay.

We have a surprise for you. Surprise. Surprise. What's that fart? It was my mouth, weirdly.

I actually was farting a lot before Paul got here. I'm glad I got it out. Yeah. Ben's a kissy guy. What's the log line of this movie?

So you you don't know it. We know you don't know it. You didn't prepare for this. So I want you to just give me the, like, 1 to 3 sentence pitch of this movie. I have had some rose.

So I'm feeling a little buzzed. So here we go what I believe the log line of the movie Twister is. The Twisters are chasing you. That's that's Okay. There it is.

Okay? Because at some point in the movie, it felt like the twisters were after them. Oh, 100. We'll get into them. We'll get into them.

And the twisters are serial killers, basically. That's what it felt like to me. The twisters are after you. My That's my log line. I'm gonna make an argument once we get into it that this movie is a kaiju movie, and I will we will get there.

What kaiju is deploying these, I wonder? No. They are the kaijus. Woah. Here's the log line.

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Holy shit. I guess we're brought to us by questionable doctors. Hollywood upstairs medical school. So we're gonna take a little break. Sarah, this is your chance to, refill your rose or go to the bathroom.

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This is Ace Fuck You and Side Saddle. How's it going up there? It's great up here. There's a lot of traffic, and, fuck you. Fuck me.

Fuck you. What's my name? Fuck you. Well, that's all fuck you as I say. Sarah, I don't know if you know this.

We play a little game. Well, where your your your most were doing a Carrie Always movie. We play a little game on this, program called cinephile. Cinephiles sometimes we call it cinephile. So I wanna draw a card here.

It's gonna have an actor or actress on the card. Got it. And it'll say, like, you know, the drawing and their name, and then it'll say a title of something that they're in. Okay. Alright.

I'm ready. Okay. There's a movie. Did you get the movie? I have mom mashed potato brand, so I can't remember anything.

But it's Sharon Stone Okay. Is Casino. I think I'm gonna take the first one that everyone's thinking of out of their brain, which is sphere. That wasn't in my brain. Damn.

Okay. I'm gonna go oh, that's not right. Is that right? I'm gonna give you 5 seconds. I think I'm wrong.

LA confidential? You're wrong. Yeah. That's Kim Basinger. Kim Basinger.

You're Kim Basinger. Basinger. Basinger. That's a Seriously. Reference for you, everybody.

My bad. Sharon Stone. First Our Favorite Sharon Stone performance. Not Christina. Oh my god.

That is really good. I love that movie so much. People hate that movie. It's so campy and fun. It's really fun.

It's good for Amy, man. Good for Amy. It's so It's so and he shoots it like it's the evil dead. There's a lot of, like, out of here right now. Take those those headphones off.

Go watch You're fired. The dead. I'll see you guys All the nine. Alright. This is ace.

I'm out. Ben. We got this. Hey. Fuck you.

I'm up in the side. Side settle Sarah. Just get the hell out of here. That nickname So the only terms don't are we going round robin or the only I lost. I lost.

Quick and the dead basic instinct. Yeah. Basic instinct. My next ones were sliver. Okay.

What is that? Sliver. Like a trashy movie with her and I think Billy Baldwin. And then It's a b movie. Action Jackson.

Oh, yeah. Okay. That was my next one. That's all I know. Little Craig t Nelson, little Carl Weathers, RIP.

Oh. RIP. Yeah, dude. So, anyway, the reason we play that game is, it determines the order of who's gonna share their initial or their original time watching this movie and their original ranking and their new ranking. So I lost, so I'm gonna go first.

And then we'll go Hugh, then we'll go to Paul. This one this one's Paul. That one. That's Paul? Okay.

Great. Was he's very confused. The other one is just a hat with some clothes on it. Beamed. Mustache.

This is a pile of clothes with some hat a hat on it. They just a little bit of a jacket. This is, you got it. You just assume it's Paul. Yeah.

He just quotes the Simpsons. Or Kevin McCallister's dad. And just smokes a little bit. Okay. Ready?

So, this is one of those movies that similar to, I think, one of the other movies we've done recently where I was like, I don't remember the time first time I watched this. I don't think it was in the theater because I think that would have been a memorable experience. But I've seen this movie a lot. I used to watch this movie a lot. I love this.

I loved this movie. It was like I don't know what it was about it. Love loved? Love loved? Yeah.

Well, you know, I'm not spoilers. Yeah. I wanna I wanna I wanna hide my hand. There was something about this movie that always made me I I really appreciate the quips in this movie. There was that made me laugh.

The sort of, like, I think we're going in with the house. You know, like, that those things very similar in terms of, like, style and feel of Jurassic Park, which is a movie that I fucking loved, and this era of, like, disaster movies with Dante's peak ever mentioned, which I also really loved. So at that time, as a child in 1996 turning 10 years old, I would have given this 5 out of 5, just because I watched it so many times, and I fucking loved it. I don't remember the last time I watched it. So going into it, watching it, yesterday, I was like, okay.

You've grown as a as a as a cinephile, and you shall consume this in the in the and the nostalgia was was still there for me. Physically, though. Same exact size since he was 15. Yeah. Which is crazy.

You look great. Just my nipples. Wow. Just enormous dinner plate. Your nipples?

Enormous dinner plate nipples. Since I was 15. I'm like a dog with their paws where, like, when I was first born, everything else strike them. Everything else is small. Nipples, adult size.

I can't do this episode anymore. Of course. I can't keep my shit together. This episode is just about killing Paul. Killing it.

Good job. The gold saddlebags and Saddlebags? It's side saddle. Side saddle syrup. Side saddle syrup.

Sarah. Saddle syrup. Got that. I don't remember all of it. It's ace and Sidesaddle, sir.

Ace and Ace. Oh, framing. I waited and told my husband that. And I was like, you you went, and he said, my name is Ace, and we both Ace and sidesaddle Sarah sounds like a young adult, like, western novel. It does.

Oh, actually, this might be fire. He turned his head so fast with, like, the level of excitement I had where I was like, that actually is maybe like a little franchise situation there. You all might be on to something. Is that the ultimate thing from this episode? They host a a shitty LA morning talk show.

Produced by fuck you. Anyway, watched it yesterday. I'm gonna current ranking is 3 and a half cows. Wow. Okay.

In case you you're not aware, 3 and a half? I mean, that's pretty good. That's a high rating. It's a high score for me. That's a high rating.

3 high rating. We all somebody's like, from fucking Jersey. You fucking have to We do halves. We can also do you can all we let guests do quarters if you'd like. I that.

No. Thank you. It's my turn. It's your turn. Yeah.

Again, very similar to you, Ben DMC. No. That was wrong. Run PS. See?

Well, I feel less bad about my fucked up nickname, but still worse. Much worse. Ace. So I feel similar to Ace in one I don't remember seeing it in theaters, But I remember it was definitely a sleepover movie. It was what we watch at many sleepovers.

So I remember watching it and thinking that Helen Hunt's character Helen Hunt? Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my god.

My brain went, like, was it it's not Helen Hunt. So it I remember thinking Helen Hunt's character was everything I ever wanted to be. Yeah. Did you guys ever do the Twister experience at Universal Studios? No.

Because it makes sense. Mean. That makes sense that it existed. I did not Oh, it was only in Orlando? I've never been to Florida.

It's only Orlando. And so I worked at Walt Disney World from, like, 2,000 2 to 2004 as Mary Poppins in a stilt walker. And we'd always go to Universal Studios. Why didn't you start with that in your bio? I'm very confused now.

I also I also have my dog Ace. From Disney University. Your donald what? Her doctor Are you general doctorable? Oh, that's questionable.

Office? Yeah. That's questionable. Question. Will I have it for you?

Tell her it's questionable, Ace. I did the Walt Disney World College program. Phony doctors. Hello. But there was a twister experience, which was at the so in the movie, they are at a drive in movie theater.

So you walk in and you see the drive in movie. And then the wind picks up and a cow flies by. So my Twister movie experience is kind of, like, hand in hand with this Universal Studios Twister experience. Like the backdrop experience. Absolutely.

Yes. Same thing. Yeah. And, also, it's hand in hand with me making out with a guy named Billy in 2004. Oh.

Oh, Alright, Bill. Alright, Bill. Good evening, Bill. Oddly enough, it was not Bill Billy Baldwin, aren't you? Not Bill Paxton.

Not Bill Wow. Sarah. Wow. Not Bill Paxton? It was Bill Pullman, though.

It was Billy Baldwin, wasn't it? It was. Absolutely. And when we and Gary just give the Independence Day speech. Oh, yeah.

Oh, nice. Yeah. I mean I mean This is your Independence Day. He turns to you and he says, now let's make out. You just do that.

Yeah. Yeah. Post that speech. You just make out with Joe Baldwin. I gave this move originally an f 4 Oh.

Out of f 5. I like it. It's mine. That's a perfect ratings. 4 out of Yeah.

My other rating system was 4 out of 5 belts because at the end of the movie, they basically tie them some so I give it an f 4 and an f 5. Watching it again, I give it an f 2.5. Woah. 5. Okay.

It went down. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's I think twister went down on all of us. Oh.

And it felt amazing, though. The motion of the twisting is an experience. And, like, the rumbling Billy, the shaking of the car. Wait. Billy?

Oh, man. I'm gonna have to add that so fucking much in this episode. Okay. My turn. I did see this movie in the theater opening weekend.

And you made out with a guy named Billy. I did. Stop saying that name. Fuck. Fuck you.

So that's just my name. Yeah. So Not you. No. Actually.

Just me. Billy. Okay. Shit. So I saw this opening weekend of the theater, and it, like, blew my fucking mind.

And that's the thing. As when you're an octogenarian at that point in time, it's like, is this the future? And it just destroys you. But I had a blast. 2nd time I saw this was on DVD.

Those are the 2 times I've seen the movie in its entirety. So way back, like, toward, like, end of release, I've seen so many little tiny bits and pieces on, like, TNT USA, whatever. Sure. On Oh, yes. But I kinda felt like, oh, I got what I need from this.

This is, like, this is, 3 fatties. It's it's not anything super special. I don't love it, but it's, like, entertaining enough. Yeah. Rewatching this film, the home surround sound makes such a huge fucking difference.

I mean, the sound in general is amazing. I'm sure if I were, like, watching this on, like, fucking 24 in CRT TV, I watch it the second time on, I'd be like, with, like, just TV speakers. Home theater experience is totally fucking different, and the movie gets, like, a little bit of extra oomph for that. I have this weird special score on my letterbox as well as this program where I add, like, a little heart to something. That means, like, this is goofy or silly or maybe not traditionally great or whatever, but I really like this for my own reasons.

This is still 3 fatties for me as the base of tornadoes referred to as this movie in this movie. 3 fatties with a heart, 3 fatties with a a cyclone or whatever with a roach. This is not for me, it's not like a great movie by any stretch of the imagination. It's just This movie is absurd. It's really fucking goofy, I think, kind of intentionally as well as unintentionally.

It's really self serious, which I think works in its favor at times. Like, it's It's a good movie. That's gonna get interesting. But, it's it's 3 and a heart where it's like, fucking, hey. I would totally watch this movie again.

Absolutely. I'm the highest on this movie? I think so. I think my 3 with a heart is, like, equal to your 3a half where it's like this to me, it's like, this isn't some great, incredible piece of art by any stretch of the imagination, but this is really fucking fun. Where for me, 3a half normally means, like, I will watch this over again.

Yeah. And 3 normally means, like, this was fine, but, like, once was enough. I'm gonna put the little heart on there to say, like, this is worth rewatching. I think we're gonna start at the top of this movie. What do you guys think?

Let's rock and roll. Idea. What do they say when they leave the base camp? It's rocking does he say let's rock and roll? What do they say?

Like a group of the storm chasers. Let's go chase the the stristers. I think that's almost I think that's the cut they used. Let's up. Let's we're gonna go chase the movie.

Suck the RWBY. Suck the RWBY. And now, our feature presentation. Life as a house. I fucking love the nontraditional Warner Brothers intro of, like, the logo appearing through the swirling like cyclone.

This movie does such an exceptional job in the first 10 minutes of being like, this is what is happening. Can I mention just real quick, the Warner Brothers logos through time, through through movies, especially through the Harry Potter trilogy Oh? Are so expertly crafted in terms of Sure. At times, in terms of, like, feeling in the movie. I really like when they do that.

Matrix ones are really Yes. The Matrix too. Love those. My favorite of the songs ones. So I'm like the e just the red screen, the black circle with, like, the kinda white w, Warner Brothers picture.

It was before, like, 3880. I got you. That was Argo. Yeah. It was before Argo.

They were Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got you.

That was Argo. Yeah. It was before Argo. They were Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Argo.

But, like, I love when they do that too. And that was the cool thing about this movie. It's immediately like, okay. This is an immersive like, this is a Warner Brothers studio movie. This is our thing.

And can we real quick, before we go on from that, I just wanna say fuck David Zaslav. I'll leave that in. Can we just Yeah. We'll leave that. Someone had to.

Yeah. I'm gonna just Keep going. Sorry. No. No.

You were gonna talk about the beginning of the film. Oh, anyway. So the exposition where we meet little it's, 1969. And Oh, shit. 4/20.

4 2069. We meet little Joe, doctor Joe and her Doctor Joe. Her family, her mother, and her father, and that is a fucking traumatic experience. Oh, yeah. Mostly traumatic experience.

And I think that little girl does a great job. Oh, yeah. Actress. She's a little great a little star. Yeah.

The family's great. The mom's great. She's in several things. The dad's great. He's in several things.

I feel like almost every speaking part in this movie is, like even if it's two lines where it is a fucking actor. Well, it is a character actor. Yes. I called this the character actor of the movie because every person in it is is that person from that thing. So it's just everybody at, like But I felt like I I love that.

Yeah. But I feel like the nineties did that a lot where it was, like, we're gonna, like yeah. Like, we're gonna make the entire, like, group of this. They're not movie star looking people. They're character actors who make this feel real.

This is the beauty of casting is moving into an Academy Award nominated category moving forward. This is a recent Raymond Garcia cast in film who, in my opinion, the greatest cast ever assembled is sneakers. That is Arisa Raymond Garcia casted film. She did she's done a 1000000,000,000 things. 200 cigarette.

All sorts of stuff. Joy Luck Club. I've worked with Oliver Stone a lot. And that's a huge strength in this film. It's not only that, like, eighties nineties actors are, like, such cream of the crop.

Am I nuts? But they're but but you know what I mean? Where there's, like, they're not they don't look like movie stars. They but they they believably fit in this world. Alan Rook is not, yeah, Philip Seymour Hoffman is not Bill Paxton to Yeah.

Exactly. Helen Hunt. It's wonderful. Jurassic Park does the same thing. It's wonderful.

Where'd it go, Amwen? And, anyway, she sees her dad get fucking sucked out of this storm cellar. Wait. By what? By Okay.

The door. F 5. Oh, shit. Don't talk about it. The door.

Damn it. The door. I remember in the first like, watching this movie for the first time and being annoyed that he was trying to hold the cellar door from the twister Gonna die, stupid. Well, they they the mom and dad or the mom and daughter don't perish. They don't get sucked out.

So if he just went down there, he wouldn't have got, like, him trying to hold the door That feels like movie logic, though. Yes. It is movie logic. Question. Do you think that the the flashback that we're watching is from the little girl's memory, or do you think it is what really happened?

Okay. If it's if it's from her memory, maybe she saw him, like, trying to hold the door I mean something I think either way, it is I think it is her memory because I think that's what matters the most. But I think And I'm okay with the I wanna touch on because this is like her watching Godzilla kill her father. And she now needs revenge. She's gonna lay it on early and thick.

I'm just the the, like, the references to this thing being Gojira? Not just Gojira, but, like, it it had it being autonomous. Being autonomous in its own they they want revenge on it. That is, like, one of the weirdest, funniest, most wonderful parts of the movie is, like, fuck you, nature. No.

Fuck you. That's, like That to me is awesome. Why it feels like a Kaiju movie. I get it. I to answer your question, whether it's from her memory or not, I do think this is what happened to her dad, and I think it was, like, he was conscious of the potential self sacrifice.

Uh-huh. But, like, the the and and so, like, it makes it noble. It's almost like the Kevin Costner in man of steel thing. It's like, oh, shit. It's similar to that.

Like, I feel there's, like, an he's noble in this and, like, to a degree. And this movie has this amazing thing of being, like, tornado gone. Yeah. And, like, this is one of those moments where it's like, bye, dad. Tornado gone.

I mean, Godzilla does all the time. He just jumps back in the water. Hello. Great guy. Gogera?

Yeah. Good guy. Sarah? Understanding guy. I I have a note that Joe's dad is also the actor who plays Lance's dad in varsity blues.

Oh. I don't want your laugh. Different character. Yeah. Yes.

Yeah. When I think of varsity When I think of varsity Blues, I think of not another team movie, and I think about the guy getting cut in half while while playing football. I don't remember not another team movie at all, but I do remember varsity Blues. I don't remember not another teen movie except Chris Pine. That's awesome.

Chris Evans. Evans. Not mine. Joe's dog. Oh, yeah.

The dog. Toto. It looks like Toto. Yeah. But it's a total or tow toadie or yeah.

And there's all sorts of wizard of Oz references throughout this But this also sets up similar to Dante's peak where it's like the setting up that like, when they introduced the dog, I was like, that dog better fucking live. Yeah. He did. I always say it, and then I go to website, does the dog live dot com. Yep.

We've brought this up before. Shannon? Shannon Corbet. And when we saw the trailer for Quiet Place day 1, she's walking around with a cat, and I turned to Paul and I was like, that cat better fucking live. And then you see it again later in the trailer, and you're like, okay.

And also I thought If they're so quiet If there's an animal that's gonna, like, hide and be quiet from something, cat's pretty good one. That cat's a great one. They only meow at humans. Right? Because that humans talk.

Or to each other. Humans, like Yeah. Like it. Right? They don't do that stuff when humans are around.

They owned it from babies. They learned to each other and to They learned it because they think that's how they can communicate with humans because humans talk. Or other creatures that humans communicate with, like dogs. Alright. Yeah.

I gotta say the transition from the dad dying, this is Into the adventure music? No. So I'll no. No. No.

Not yet for me. The transition of, like, the fucking shitty CG satellite. I'm like, oh Oh. That's the That's the thing. Of the worst part of the film.

I was like, that did not work. Like, why does that need to even be there at all? Like, you're not impressing anybody. You've got shit. The twisters held up.

They looked real and awesome. That saddle good. Horrible. But the CG in a lot of the other like, the atmospheric stuff, like, the twisters, those are like, okay. A lot of the debris does not age well.

Oh, no. Like, the matting or when I say matting for those who don't know, it's like whatever is, like, in the foreground versus the background. What's real and what's not and what looks The color sometimes looks like lit wrong. It's and that's the thing is, like, this movie is probably made specifically for theater viewing, and home viewing is probably a little bit weird as to where, like, theater audio is just like this enormous bass drop in your fucking loins and, like, at home theater, it's very more nuanced. But I I like that in the very first exposition dump, this is where you get, like, those very exposition y actors by the weather service that are like, oh, gonna be a violent day for tornadoes.

Lots of tornadoes. And it's over. I was wondering, have all those jobs been replaced by robots now? AI's taking our jobs. Ellie, TWP people walking briskly with paperwork that I was like, who's lost the job?

Where is that office? What is happening here? Are there tornado offices around the world today? There's only a 3 minute warning. I mean, I am not I imagine that now you can probably just, like, walk into a tornado or or put a put a fucking robot in a tornado.

Oh, I'm sure it's very simple. I also was I grew up in Washington state. We all did. Right? Okay.

We're So I remember seeing this and being so grateful that at point, my parents told me, like, don't worry. Tornadoes don't happen here. And me just being like, oh, thank Christ. Like Yes. I'm from Vancouver, Washington.

There was a tornado that destroyed either a high school or an elementary school in, like, the seventies in Southwest Hoover. In Southwest Washington where it was, like, an f three or something like that. Don't say it. They, like, did some serious I'm not gonna because I'm not a disrespectful shit. Fuck you.

That's just my I mean, I know that they I know that they exist in Washington. They just didn't really happen in Seattle. No. But it's, like, it's so uncommon. Like, that's such a weird thing that I just said where it's, like, maybe Paul lived in Vancouver.

That's where he grew up. Isn't that weird? What? I'm from Marysville, Washington. Well, Samanish, Marysville, Vancouver.

That's why this only has, like, 50 listeners. I get it now. There was a earthquake that happened during lunch in my middle school. And missed lunch. I I remember the exact earthquake you're talking about.

Absolutely. There was a kid who jumped up and surfed the earthquake on the tables. I didn't know we went to high school together. That's cool. Middle school, I mean.

That's because I went to my school. Yeah. Coolest person in the world because he fucking surfed the earthquake. Everyone went under tables. He popped on the table and rode the wave of the earthquake and was the coolest kid for the rest of middle school.

Can I can I ask you a question? Was his name Ace? Fuck you. That's just my name. I'm just saying my name.

Ace earthquake rider. What? Avatar, the last ace. Ace, the last earthquake rider. The last quake rider.

Earth Ace, the last Okay. Cut to Mateen, Joe, she's here? Well, he's gotta get a divorce. She he's going with his fiancee who, god bless her, that poor woman is just thrown put through it. Yeah.

Is this a karate kid? When I watched this film originally, I thought she was the naggiest, naggy, bish you've ever seen in your life. And upon rewatch, I wanna say justice for Jamie Gertz. Yeah. Yes.

This woman is a gem, and Paxton in no world deserves her. Yeah. She's incredible human being. Yeah. Yeah.

And she he clearly is still into his ex. Shouldn't be getting remarried. He was trying to change to be with Jamie Gertz or change who he is in his DNA. He basically, like, fucking, like, gaslit her, fooled her, whatever, tried to change for her himself. Well, so he's going can't change who he is.

He's gotta get his divorce papers signed, and we meet the team. We meet Joe. We meet Philip Seymour Hoffman. We meet everybody, and they're so great. And you can see that Bill Paxton's character is just, like, ingratiated with them.

They love him. They just Yeah. They love him being around. And The extreme. The extreme.

And I'll you can tell even then it's just a side, quote, unquote, stoner character, sorry, Paul, of Philip Seymour Hoffman. Little offended. Fuck you. I'm just saying my name. His his work in this his work in this is fucking stellar.

He's great. Philip Seymour Hoffman is stellar in this. He's so great. Know that he was fully immersed in the character past the script. Like, you know that some of those little moments with the with the drink and the straws, and they're just Oh, I love it.

So nuanced and beautiful, and you don't see acting like that much anymore. The Philip Seymour Hoffman, like, beauty brings 100%. I agree. I also I feel like this movie, like, it has a little bit of that karate kid syndrome as you were saying, Sarah. I'm like, wait.

The bad guy's not the bad the bad guys aren't the bad guys. Like, they're not necessarily nice people or people, like, I like, but, like, it's the thing where it's like, oh, Bill Paxton tried to change. He's not that guy. He's this guy. And he has the opportunity to become who he is again or whatever the fuck it is.

Well But, like, the the thing that we're supposed to hate Jonas about, Kerry always, he's in it for the money. Oh, yeah. Suck. In the middle sign in. In the middle of their in the middle of their, like, signing these papers, they have to go off and chase a tornado.

Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And this is when we get mom?

F? Was that an f a month? F 2 or 3. I don't know. Because they go through all the f's.

I watched the special 1 through 4. All 4. Which one is an f u? Oh, that's his f u. That's I'm just saying my name.

That's Paul. That's Paul. Yeah. I love that we get introduced to this, like, highly competitive world of storm chasers. It's really funny.

It's almost like Roadhouse where it's like the bouncers where it's like, wait. What is happening? Yeah. Exactly. And the the I gotta say really quick in the home audio.

I don't wanna and I want Sarah to make her point most importantly. But the in the home audio, there are little thundercracks that happen at specific moments that are, like, so fucking cool that he I don't know where where it's like, Helen Hunt goes in terms of Jamie Gertz, the new fiance. Like, oh, she's here, and you hear a little in one of the channels, and you're like, awesome. The twisters are almost like her emotional, like, well-being. It's really cool.

I did not hear that because I just listened out of my TV. My point was that the nineties made me feel like I could have any job. And that, like, storm was a job available to me, and that any job that I wanted would have a ragtag group of friends to back me up and do what I say. So that's not true. I mean, kind of.

Also like, we're a group, but It's also, like, the this point in the night, like, watching this, it it's one of those things where I'm like, this is what life is. This is what this is just what people look like. This is what people dress like. Yeah. And I I imagine, like, oh my god.

Did people who grew up who were, like, grew up in the sixties when they see sixties movies, do they watch that and go, yeah. I don't know why people think this looks dated. This is just how people are. You know what I mean? Like Maybe.

I'm watching this from someone who was, like, 11 at this time. Yeah. This is just that's that's existence. This is life. This is what people look like.

It's I miss it. Also, sorry, real quick. So they go after the storm and he you know, she's already found out that he's getting remarried. She asked what he does what she does. And there was a time where it was, like, therapists or psychologists in movies were so villainized.

Shrinks. Like, the Santa Claus, this you know, like, it was like, oh, not doctors. She's therapist. Yeah. She's not a doctor.

She's questionable. That's questionable. The 90 it's yet another blondes versus brunette's narrative. Oh, it is. It goes to the 90 Wow.

Very typical. Brunette versus the cool blonde with the boy's name. You know? Like, she's Yeah. She's cool.

She's with the guys. That's funny. Yeah. Yeah. She she's yeah.

She's cool. Well and, like, I I like again, there's this movie is, like, fraught with fucking wizard of Oz references, and we meet Dorothy. Yes. Like, which is essentially a a tub with a cage around it with a bunch of little testes in it. Nanobytes.

Prey is another good Creighton book that I liked, and I was like, fucking Yeah. He fucking loved nanotechnology before it was really a thing. And this is like nanotechnology at a macro level. Right? It's not actually nanotechnology.

But for the nineties, this was nanotechnology. I also believe I think Michael Creighton was a doctor. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So He was he was a smart dude.

Not a questionable doctor. An actual doctor. Yeah. That's why I believe the science in this to a degree. Yeah.

Are was is Bill Paxton's character a doctor or just his 2 love interests? Because I think Joe's and he's I think he's I think he's out kid kicking his coverage. I I I mean, he's got He's a weatherman. So charming. He's a weatherman.

Yeah. But I yeah. Like, why why He's a meteorologist, which I don't think is a doctorate. I think he's a I think he's a master's. I think he's on his his coverage.

He's getting, like, these very smart, capable, amazing ladies. He's like a weatherman that he finds very offensive that he's a weatherman. Steeple. Steeple, r I p. R I p.

Greatest weather for my time. I can't hear you. Fuck you. I'm just saying my name. It's just my fault.

Listen. Fuck you. I wanna listen to side title, Sarah. Bill Paxton can smell tornadoes. He has I don't know if that scene has come up yet, but him walking into the street and, like, picking up the the rocks and, like, letting them fall and, like, smelling where the tornado came from.

Like, why does he have to he's a meteorologist. Isn't a meteorologist? It's not looking out into the sky and going, like, this is what I feel. It's like science. So why is he feeling a tornado?

Is he As someone never go yeah. As someone who's introduced psychics to us, why do you question his abilities? Oh. You know? Because he's an asshole to Jamie Gers.

That's why. That's fair. We we did a a movie called Willow on this. Where Willow I love Yeah. We did we did Willow.

Listen to our Willow episode, please, everybody. But Wow. There, like, there are things that are or are not explained, and they're in that movie. And this movie, we are set up that Dorothy, this thing with all the nuts in it, is the secret weapon very early in the movie. And then all of a sudden, Cary Elway is Johnny from Karate Kid, has the same exact thing.

Yes. And so to me, this is telling me, like, Bill Paxton, his intuition, his humanity, not technology, is the secret weapon. That's the thing that, like, leads them. The thing that's, like, weird to me is, like, why not make that Helen Hunt? Why is that built she's seen an a big a really big sized tornado.

Oh, 100%. This movie was made in 1996. Yeah. Are you kidding me? They had to have Bill Paxton be the hero of this movie.

Yes. Yeah. He's pushed by a past experience, by rage, by vengeance to, like, defeat a tornado. To defeat Godzilla. To defeat Godzilla, Paxton has a more nuanced relationship with the tornado, I feel.

Well and with everybody in the group. Everybody loves him. First off, he has to punch out Carrie Ellis, and then they I feel like they there's a couple of there and back agains in this movie where they chase the storm and Dorothy does it work. Yeah. Because this is what they go after and they get stuck under the bridge.

This is our first chase where he, like, to Bill Paxton decides to drive her old cheap pickup Yeah. Into, like, a runoff ditch and can't get it out. Which was a bad idea. It it like, why'd you do that? Why did you think you could do that?

My question for watching these scenes, do they have multiple does this happen every year? Like, do they have like, is this a is this a tornado season? Do they have they lost cars before? Like, is this a a normal experience? Or because I'm sure there's f threes, f fours.

That was an f 2 where they lost their car. Like, is this or is this just when, Helen Hunt and Paxton get together that they make this explosive relationship and they have to, like, literally drive straight into a twister? I think it is them. He come Yeah. Go coming back together.

It I great question. I don't have an answer at the time, but Right. It's funny that all of the tornado's arrivals and departures and everything revolve around mostly her emotional state. But outside of that is, like, the very beginning of the movie. They're like, yep.

Lots of tornadoes. And then the the movie just moves on. And so it does its best to just justify everything that happens in a line, and it just doesn't carry for me. I guess that's the biggest thing. Oh, it's a driving into the ditches like, hey.

Lost your nerve, and he's like, nope. And just immediately makes a dumb fucking decision. 100%. The movie doesn't follow any actual form of logic just like if you're fucking chasing a goddamn monster. That's what I'm like Uh-huh.

The the story to me is, like, if you were to take these tornadoes and replace them with a troll, King Kong, Godzilla, anything, it wouldn't fucking matter because what is important to this is a story about a husband and wife who are trying to come back together. That to me is what the movie is actually about. And, like, the thing the outside force is and that's why it sounds like when they use the fucking sound design, it sounds like a fucking monster. It sounds like It does. You're like, oh, it's growling at me.

That's why I, like, I think of this as, like, a Kaiju movie. It's like it's a Kaiju movie that focuses on the storyline of the of the of the humans, and this outside force is driving them to to come back together. I I find it really strange. Thank you. Yeah.

It's a fun take. I like that take. I do. I like that take. You've done well.

I find it interesting that in the beginning of this movie, they're like, hey. Fucking lots of nanos. And there's a shitload of tornadoes that happen. And the whole point of these people is like, tornadoes can't be predicted. We have to do everything we can and every single tornado.

It's like, to a degree, predicted. What's interesting about that too is is don't they wouldn't they want Jonas to sick or does Jonas says his name? The bad guy? Yeah. Kerry Ellis.

Don't they wouldn't they want him to see? Is he government funded? Or because they're funded by, like, a call like, a shitty college or something. They'll back some students. Who's funding Joe's team?

Like, the generic It's like, what, like, what it's like Where does Helen Hunt get this money? I don't know. From her office. Yeah. NPR.

That's right. Yeah. Maybe NPR. Maybe the National Public Radio They get their they get their shitty Jeep they get their shitty Jeep sucked up and destroyed, and Dorothy doesn't work. Twister disappears.

Well, they don't have enough time to make it work. Right? Well, and this is thing. This is a time where it's like you couldn't make a remote control for it. Yeah.

There are so many things about the before you can figure out a way to get it out of the truck a little faster and not get it stuck on the little ties. Like, that happened, like, twice. Sometimes Like, do we not have remote controls at this time? You know, like, a remote control car. I think we did.

While you're moving, have everything for Dorothy prepped and ready. Have a knife to cut those straps if it's 1996 and your budget's limited. Like, oh, we'll just if we're moving the truck Yeah. And and doors in it, everything is ready. We'll have a knife in case the straps don't work, and we'll dump it.

Yeah. Again, I know I agree with Katie Hampton. It's like, stop applying so much fucking logic to movies. But, also, like, this is a fucking $100,000,000 movie or whatever. Like, it's hard not to.

I mean, that's the thing about this movie. Uses so much science jargon. It's a it's it's this level of absurdity to me where I'm just like Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm just gonna forgive a lot of this just because you've established the boundaries and what Disaster movie.

Yeah. I think this movie being a disaster movie, like, there's a, like, fine line between this movie and Dante's peak. Dante's peak was more absurd, and that's why I think I like it more like that. Where he likes his legs burn, but it's, like, too insane where it's Meg level where I can go and be like, this is wild. This movie made me think, like, this is what tornadoes are.

There are 2,000 tornadoes in Kansas every year. Like, it was more believable to me. So I think when we're this seem like the reality is of this world, it seems like I need more answers from this film. Okay. So before we move on real quick, I just wanna touch on something real quick.

Because I think you're right, but I also don't want a more tongue in cheek version of this movie. Like, I don't I don't want a more which is why I'm a little concerned about twisters. The self serious works. I like that it takes itself very seriously. It works.

And I I'm holding out faith for Twister dollar sign because the Minari director is doing it. Yeah. And I'm like, okay. Gwen Powell's pretty fucking great. I like Gwen Powell.

What a What's Katie's in it? Yeah. Katie O'Brien. Great. Yeah.

So she's in it, and she hopefully, it'll be good. Like, she's seems like someone who'd be great in a ragtag group of, like I hope twister. Yeah. That's I hope they have a good group of twister hunters. This first movie could have been called twisters.

Could have been. Or several. Or it could have been called just one killer. It wasn't just one Gojira. It also could have been called the Meg because now they go to Meg's.

They go to Meg's place. After no help from Jonas Sorry. Because that's what we're supposed to not like him about. Hello? You're not helping us?

Pat myself a little back on. I'm I'm brushing that aside as you brush your shoulder up. You don't like the Meg? Nothing's good, but I don't like to acknowledge when you do good jokes. It makes me feel like I don't do jokes as good.

So I just brought some aside. You don't acknowledge them. No. I have a really quick question. Bill Paxton's truck is, like, fucked up at this point.

They go through the the twist. He's got this beautiful new Dodge Ram truck. And they ask him what kind of insurance that he he has, and he says just liability. Yeah. Do you think he's just saying that because he doesn't want them to take his truck?

I don't know. Why would you just get liability? I just feel like he's not, like, an honest guy. I think that he is molding himself to who he's around. So he's around Jamie Gritz's character, and I think he gets this new truck.

He's just gonna drive it to his meteorologist job. It's going to be quick. He just needs liability. It's not a big deal. And he's a safer person around her.

He's like, I'm safe. I don't need all this insurance. But then so I think he's molding himself to his who he's dating at the time. But then he goes into this new group, and he's like, we're gonna fuck up your truck. We're gonna take it.

So do you think he's, like, saying just liability? So Jamie Gertz hears him, but he's, like, smiling at Ellie Highland Hunt, like, let's take it. Let's go. Absolutely. I think so too.

I think so too. Is he the real monster? He wants to chase natos, man. There's a lot of tornadoes. Well, by tornadoes, he wants he wants back in Helen Hunt's pants.

Oh, yeah. That's a big piece of it. Absolutely. Yeah. And he's not willing to, like, break up with his girlfriend.

No. Well, and fiance. He has to make her break up with him. And Beau is horny for tornadoes. It's not for Bill Paxton.

She's Yeah. She wants the NATO. Until they go after they go after, like, that one and fail again, like, this is where I'm, like in my head, I'm like, oh, there's a couple there and back against where they just keep going after it and they keep failing. Why are tornadoes so hard to see with your naked eye? Why are they, like are torn tornadoes famously, like, shot in the being seen?

Like They fail again, and they this is when they, like, are heard over the inter the, like, intercom that's for some reason on in their truck, and they're like Oh, it's on. They're, like, 10 yards away from the truck, but it's somehow picking them up. And he's saying, like, no. I'm right in front of you, Joe. Me.

I'm like, bro, you just came here to get your divorce paper signed. Dude, how the fuck does Jamie Gertz have cell service? And then after traumatizing Jamie Gertz by literally dropping a truck almost on her, they make her sit in a car with Bill and Joe and watch their flirting firsthand, not just on the intercom. She's a total victim. He's a victim.

She is a victim. Justice for Jamie Carr. Beers. I'm gonna have one of his beers. I'm breaking my diet for a a beer.

You sure? Beer's good. I think aunt Meg had this beer. Like, when she starts like, they go to aunt Meg's in in wherever Kansas to get away from this whole thing, and it's like the I love her. To start act 2.

Yeah. Where the Let me tell you. Great character actor. Uh-huh. Minority Report.

Yeah. On her putting movie on her back, being this lesbian artist aunt that I think probably raised Joe at some point because where's her mom? Like, you're getting all of the backstory that you create for yourself from her It just peppers it it just peppers it into. And Paul and I have talked about this where we're like, thank you for not force feeding me too much more about the backstory. It's just peppering in a little bit.

Well yeah. And I love that she's like, yeah. I I fucking I slaughter my own cows. Like Oh, did anybody else I make do any else gravy. Want steak and eggs?

Because I did. Oh, yeah. But I I really like Oh, that I was like, I don't need that meat. I want that meat. I know it was on a scale.

It has been, like, cooking meat for years. It's gonna be She's got, like, multiple cast irons going and shit. Well, dude, that's a that's a long process. Yo. Yeah.

It's a bit To make to make steak and eggs for all those people? The extreme. Well, this is the thing. Like, again, we're not supposed to like Jamie Gertz because she's like, I don't want potatoes and gravy. And we're like, you piece of shit.

Goddamn you. Like, we're supposed to not like her the way they shoot it. I know. Where she's, like, being fed all this delicious food, and she's like, oh, this looks heavy. I don't want it.

Yeah. This Absolute. This doesn't make me not like her. It just makes me feel like she's like, oh, this is not what I eat. She feels like she can't eat it because of society.

That's something. Yeah. Whatever her real yes. But but, again, it's another demonizing of psychiatrists and therapists. Like, Jess and I were like, it was this a time and I know it was.

And now you're just like, oh, head shrink. I don't need anybody shrinking my head. Yep. Like, as as someone who's a very big proponent of therapy and thinks it's very important, especially So important. Everyone in the world should go to see a therapist.

Every Yeah. Every person. I agree with you. Guess who needs to go to therapy? Bill Paxton's character.

Oh my god. And he even says he's like, you think I need to go to therapy? Dude, the That's the is the nickname extreme, and we're told this, like, you know, in this giant group setting where it's like, yeah, this dude was, like, butt naked pissing into a tornado. Can we discuss can we discuss so he peed in a tornado? I guess.

Threw his bottle of, like, Jack Daniels into a tornado. So drunk driving therapy. Yeah. Tornado. Joe's trying to, like, wrassle him, tell him to stop, and then he throws his booze into a tornado?

I guess. Is that where they I mean, that's very Mountain Dew extreme to me. It sounds like less extreme and more douchebags to me. It's like, what the fuck, guy? I do want some Mountain Dew extreme.

When Anne Meg says to to Helen Hunt when she's, like, after she showered and everything while they're at this, like, quick break between, you know, her emotional evoking of tornadoes of Kaiju, that her answers, no matter what you do, you'll always be beautiful. And I just fucking love that line and, like, the intimacy that, like, that just like that one scene kinda couple scenes kinda creates, and he recognizes everything and everybody. Of well and you know that Bill Paxton's character and aunt Meg and Joe had these lovely moments together in that home. Yes. So comfortable in the home.

In my head, this is where I go. They probably showered in that shower together. Like, it's a very, like, real like, that's where I go, and I'm, like All 3 of them? He's always gonna want you. Yeah.

Joe, well Oh, it's it's all packs. You're online waiting and, like, with the door cracked open just looking. It's pretty questionable. Whole situation. Her therapist suggested she try it out.

She's like Questionable. Phony doctors. Hello. I kinda wanna get in that shower with them. Well, go give it a try.

Yeah. It feels so beautiful. Shoot your shot. It's really sweet. That that scene to me is a I mean really lovely I love this family unit.

Hashtag family. It's a way to say to Helen Hunt and to the audience, Bill Paxton will want you no matter what. Like, where she has made it very clear through this movie, I am going to let your other shit work. I'm not gonna fight with you. I'm not gonna fight for you.

You're just here, and you're useful. Yes. And, that she's trying to make herself feel, quote, unquote, unpretty. And then her aunt's like, I'm so sorry. You shared too many moments in the song as you said, Sarah.

Where it's like, I've seen it. You love each other. And sorry. Like, you can't make him not love you. Yeah.

This is part of why I like this movie. And then they go chase the storm again. Yeah. We don't talk about what they talk about at the table there. We don't talk about we we don't talk about that either.

Cyclope. What they were at Cyclope. Or what they were talking about or that. Cyclope. Cyclope or the tape or the f or the oh, no.

Sarah, please help me. This next storm, the we got cows. Yes. We Got Cows. That made me laugh a lot as a child.

That was the compliment. Yeah. I was like, this is this is it. This is Jim Carrey, the masked level of comedy. Those kind of quips in the middle of a of a very chaotic situation always really got me as a kid.

Like, again, coming back to Jurassic Park, when they're, like, climbing down and the car is falling down the tree, and then they, like, they have to, like, duck and the car lands on them. And Tim and Tim goes, we're back in the car. Yeah. That always fucking like, I fucking loved it. It's a good line.

Yeah. This is the thing that you need from movies that Amblin has pretty much always done so well. You need not only, like, the 8 to 14 year old person to laugh at it. You need the you really need that 4 or 5 quadrant thing for a lot of these high budget PG 13 movies, And holy shit has Amel done that so well through time. Like, wow.

Were they okay. Back to the movie. I'm sorry. So Alan Rook recommends, like, let's get off the highway. We're gonna take off the beaten path.

They drive through someone's cornfield. Someone's private and proper. Okay. So as someone's No. No.

Actually on the cornfield? Well, so as someone who one of my jobs is going into outdoor education, and I go into the backcountry Right. There is a wide variety of farm roads that are open to the public. So it might not be private property. Correct.

It just could be wild corn, wild maize. It could be. Yeah. And it Okay. It just, like, as as as someone's It's a public road, but it's not developed.

Like yeah. As someone who I'm, like, looking at a map and it's saying telling me to turn onto this road, and I'm looking at it, and I'm like, this looks like somebody's farm. But it They're in Kansas. Oklahoma or whatever at this point. Right?

So Oh. Oklahoma, where the wind comes from. Playing music? Playing music. Not the first time that Zoom has asked us that.

But, like, when they burst out of the corner, it almost hit carry always Jonas and Eddie, his assistant, and all these guys, it's like, dude, strong chaser people. You kind of are not the good guys in so many situations. Destroying people's There's a part where they almost run Bill they do run Bill Paxton off the road early in the movie. Well And when they encountered Jonas, you know, it's again, where I'm like, is him succeeding a bad thing? Like, don't you both want the same thing, technically?

Right? It's about who's first? Again, this is Elwis just like Uh-huh. Cary Elwis, though, in in days of thunder, plays, like, a very similar character. Jean Girard.

Jean Girard? Same movie. Jean Luc Picard? Same movie. Sorry?

Can't wait till we get one of those. But another big crux of this movie is all the Dorothy's that fail. We're set up really early in the movie. We have 4 Dorothy's ready to go. Cage is built, Home Depot buckets in there, nuts in there, ready to blast off.

We've got 4. Yeah. And so that's the thing that the movie's counting on you to do is count how many Dorothy's there can we get this experimental, scientific weatherific thing to work? Yeah. Again, I believe in the science of it because of the craton of it all.

I don't think it's super important to understand it. You know, like, when they're watching on the fucking, like, radar and seeing, like, a tornado and they're, like, going, oh, no. It's gonna turn left. Oh, no. It's gonna turn right.

Like, sure. I believe that, I guess. I guess you know which way it's going. I like how the magic was always in Bill Paxton all along. Just kinda like Willow.

I was always in him. Like, in with Bill Paxton, it was always when Carrie always says, you don't hold dirt up anymore or whatever. And it's like, actually, that's exactly what this guy does because he's special. But, like, should it be him, especially with the way the movie was set up? It's like they're missteps.

Sure. The drive in. You know it well, Sarah. The Shining. I do know I know the drive in.

I I love the drive in scene. I how did they get the shining? How much did they have to pay for the shining? Warner Brothers. All in the Warner Brothers family of films.

Oh my god. Because that I think that whole sequence is beautiful because every moment that, like, the comes in, he's trying to get in through the door with the ax. Like, that part, I remember it as a kid as well. It was so cool to me because I watched the shine It's it's almost like again, I'm gonna keep coming back to this. It's almost like they're watching the movie and you can hear the footsteps of this fucking tornado.

There to me, like, literally, it's like it feels like a monster runs through that screen. I like that. Like that. You're right. It is a monster movie.

The the tornadoes are chasing them now Yes. At this point. In the beginning, they were Yes. Ignominant gas station parking lot. We gotta get the tornado.

They went to the aunts, then they go to the drive in, and then now the tornadoes are chasing them. So These tornadoes have autonomy. Well and that's the thing for these torn tornadoes with me. Like, the thumping is like the ax chops in The Shining. But, also, it's like, okay.

Are you like a Jack Torrance twister, or are you like a BJ bear twister, like, with a special, like, technique that you use that Ben and Jill Keep doing the So keep doing that technique. Get a twister from the BJ bear to the shine. To me, this is That was the good one. To me, the twisters are like the T Rex in Jurassic Park. Whereas Yeah.

They remember, and they're coming back. So in the drive in, they all run into this structure, and Bill Passion is pretty concerned about protecting James There are a mechanic shop. Right? They don't they go into a pit in a mechanic shop. Everything's flying around, and the twister is fucking fucking shit up and whatever.

And, fuck you. Have some fun. Review of the movie. Everything's lying around. The twist is fucking shit up or whatever.

Shit. But the My log caps. The hub caps that fly in. I die laughing at that. Where the the the tornado picked up hubcaps and specifically, like, hit this one dude in the head who's capping a gas line that gets uncapped and then I don't know.

Uno. Oh, yeah. There are a lot of twisters today. Well, maybe I watched too many horror movies, but I had forgotten that that guy gets, like, hit in the forehead with the hubcap, and I thought that his top of his head ghost ship style. You thought it was, like, Hannibal?

Yeah. Yeah. I was, like, coming off. Ghost ship ghost ship style? You've done too many Resident Evil games.

You love ghost ship? Yeah. No. I do not like ghost ship. It's a shitty movie, but I think the beginning is incredible.

The beginning is true. The rest of it happened during the writers' strike or something happened. There's a pact where it says the movie changed after that first scene was shot. That first scene was incredible. The sliding doors sliding doors, which what movie if we would have gotten that movie?

I gotta pump it up. I think a lot of people confuse Ghost Ship with deep rising, which is directed by Steven Steven Summers, director of The Mummy, and we're not gonna talk about anything else, Van Helsing. The Mummy. Deep rising fucking rules. That's a Treat Williams movie, RIP, and Famke Janssen, and that movie is so fun.

And if, like, you got thrown off by Ghost Ship, whatever I think came out same year, watch deep rising. You'll have a good time. Okay. Also, the the breakup. The breakup.

The Bill Paxton, Jamie Gertz breakup. Well, I mean, she she she literally never really the bad guy. Never really. But she heard him say to Helen Hunt, I'm right here in front of she heard him say to his ex wife, he wants her back. Why would she not leave?

Yeah. She should've left days ago. He should've left a long time ago. Okay. And, like, way earlier in the day.

And I think she Right. The adult conversation that they had where he she's like, I'm not even gonna I'm not even that sad Yeah. Which is is is wild and relatable. Yeah. I Yeah.

And that that scene her performance in that scene is gorgeous. It's gorgeous. It that it actually the way you bring it up I miss her. I haven't seen her for ever. That reminds me a little bit of when we talked about in the her episode.

Her? With the date the date with Olivia Wilde. When Olivia Wilde has that line where she's just like, you're a really creepy dude and walks away. Or I'm like, okay. That feels really real.

That feels that that feels like a this is real, and this is I don't I don't know. They both got caught up in something that they thought was right, and then they were slapped in the face with a tornado. In reality too, because she when she says it to him, you can tell there's, like, a relief for him. Yes. Mhmm.

I agree. And he's like, you're right. I've been holding on to you for no reason. And And he's not doing that thing like, no. No.

No. No. Don't don't think I'm a bad person. Don't think I'm a bad person. He just listens, takes in what she says, and says, yeah.

Yeah. You're right. It's beautiful. And then he goes, fuck you. Liability only.

That's just my name. That's what that's my name. Oh, sorry. That's all. No.

The the when they all of a sudden after the drive in disaster, they're like, holy shit. There's a warning system that tells people, we better go back to this place in Kansas to save Meg. I know. But that is Well, there's no warning system. That that to me, I was like, wait a minute.

Dog. They know it's going right for her house. Why do they not call her? Yeah. Are there phone lady's lips?

I don't remember. Were there phones? I was like, wait a minute. Boy. Call call call the town that it's heading towards.

Let them know. I Yeah. It's like they had no warning. They clearly had a fucking warning Yeah. For many hours.

Because they had to drive there. Yeah. And this is like an f 4 that or an f 3 that, like, destroys her house. I'm not because it wasn't. It's not appropriate.

But that Questionable, the best. If you are. Because then the last tornado is Yeah. It's a thing. It's the the the thing.

Oh, it's I love the set piece of the of the house. Crumbling house. It's good. And if the house doesn't crumble, I'm finding myself through this whole thing because I've been conditioned so much by movies from the last 10 years, 15 years, where it's like, things don't matter. Oh, your favorite superhero died?

Fine. Back in 2 movies. Who gives a shit? Fuck you. Your emotional investment means nothing.

And so I'm almost half expecting the house to not collapse and then to make some fucking quip about it, and then the house fucking collapses. And I'm like, great. This was all worth the time, energy, and risk that happened because I got the much. Yeah. And the beautiful scene that we saw before with the with the steak and the the magic that has happened in that home, and then we see it literally crumble in front of us.

And then What's the love between family members? Well, so much love, so much so that Joe's aunt Meg says, you go stop it. As if she can individual. Again, this is an Stop a fucking f. But again Cinco.

The tornado that she's speaking of Go. Isn't 5 exist anymore. They're going they're going after a monster. They're, like, they're they're seeking a monster. You're selling me hard and it's working.

Discam it. This is the first time when I watched the movie that I, like, kept turning jest. I was like, this is a monster movie. And she was just like, oh, I think you're right. You're painting them.

I think too. You're right. When I watched it, oh my god. Wow. But now thinking of it as as a monster, it is it has changed how I feel in my rate.

Also, I have you nailed it. You nailed it. I have to mention real quick the little Buster Keaton moment of the TV with the cord. That's, like, hands down. Good.

I'm like, oh god. It's not gonna kill the dog, is it? That's the moment for me. I like that they really had to show us. They had to show us that he Oh, yeah.

Saved that dog. Carries the dog. And then you're like, oh, ultimate hero. Love him. Yeah.

House falls apart? No problem. Dog lived? Great. Now we're on Dorothy 304, and we're entering the crazy tornado.

And we get the Dodge Ram versus the fucking tornado, the tree, and the exploding semi where the film and the producers and the writers and everybody are like, we are gonna throw everything at you in the fucking kitchen sink. And it's really hilarious to me. God, I laughed a lot in this movie. When Bill Paxton goes, debris, now what? I'm like, what the fuck do you think now what?

You're in the middle of a fucking tornado. Yeah. Like, debris, of course. That has a mild fatty. Yeah.

Of course, there's debris. Why are you why are you surprised by it? This is the everything, like, driving through the house, everything. I was just like, this is absurd. Driving through the house was peak peak action film.

I was like, this is I was like, well, that. Go in about the other side. In real, they would've been stuck in the home. Did did everybody have fun watching this? Like, was this a fun movie?

100%. What was the funnest part of the movie? Because for me, I just said it. This was the funnest part of the movie for me where they're like, fuck it. And, like, that set piece is so great.

Yeah. So, like, did anybody, like what sticks out? What sticks out to me is is kind of the 2 heroes of the film, like you're saying, chasing. Now Ben told me, the monster. So they are going after the monster.

They are going to slay the dragon as it were. So that that was always this end part of the after her aunt gives her permission to go slay the dragon. Movie roles. It's like, okay. Here we go.

In that same metaphor is they they end up going through all the shit, and they Turkey threes exploded. Succeeded though with now that it flies because they built the fucking helicopter balls, and they can The nuts. And they can fly them up the Pepsi cans, not a sponsor. Not this episode. Not this episode.

Then they can now, like, track the wind of it, and that's their version of slain it because it's gonna it's gonna keep happening. But they'll understand it. They can predict it. That's the isn't that the big thing in, like minutes. The Godzilla TV series is we can predict each other.

We can do these Yeah. Warning. So, like, I'm buying into what you're saying in a big way. And I I gotta say too, like, in the karate kid thing that I've been trying to float, as you've been doing Godzilla, I'm doing karate kid. When Eddie, the assistant's like, hey.

Bill Paxton and Helen Hunt would put us in harm's way. They're totally cool. I totally love them. They had smoke a fatty with them, and then all of a sudden, it, like, throws, like, a fucking ladder through his face. Yeah.

And you're like, oh god. Final destination style. Like, I'm kinda like, oh god. He's he is gone. And Jonas explodes.

He gets exploded. And, like, Bill Paxton and Helen are like, well, we tried to tell him, and that's, like, the amount of her more serious. It's like lots of nightos. Like, what are you gonna do? Really quick.

Was Jonas ever on their team? Like, how did he steal the idea? I always assume that he was kind of, like, on their ragtag team, but he had money, steal the idea, get out. This is what I created in my mind. Steal the idea, get out, create his team.

So I think the way that I see it is that Bill Paxton sees himself if I'm to make this akin to Tesla. He is he is Sorry. Steve. Martin Eberhard and Mark Carpening, The 2 people that came up with this battery technology that are responsible for this huge electric car revolution. And Uh-huh.

Kerry Owaiz is Elon Musk. He took the idea of someone else and stole it and repackaged it and is attempting to take credit for something that is not his. And so I think Kerry always to a degree, like, the way that he's the bad guy and the way that, like, his death is justified, it's like, okay. At least we got him before he could buy some social media outlet. Got him.

That's, like, the win of Kerry always dying if we're making Elon Musk. Superlative. But outside of that, this last set piece, the final thing, the farm and the barn and the pump house and the horses and everything. I don't love the CG and all of it. CG's bad.

I I find it interesting that they go into, the slaughterhouse or whatever, this farm, and they see all the Again hard tools. It feels like a horror movie thing. Who lives in this place? I mean, like Also, farmers farmers need that stuff. And then they also look like fields of sunflowers, so they need to chop them down.

Like The family comes out and they seem perfectly nice and normal and happy, and there's, like, 3 kids. And Well, but at the end of the movie, when they're, like they they've strapped themselves to that, like, bar in the barn, and that's the only thing left in that barn. And that at the end of the movie, the barn is gone, but that bar still exists. And they're just, like, just being, like, fucking surfing this earthquake or whatever. They survive, and the team comes back, and they serve Dorothy succeeded.

The fence posts are pretty rad. The fence posts are stabbing through shit. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because, like Again Yeah.

Those, like, moments of, like, how do we create more things that could kill them in in this Yeah. Horror movie. It's where it's Yeah. Everything around you is looking for you. I do love that the horse survived.

The 2 beautiful horses Yeah. Very much Bill Paxton and Helen Hunt running away together in my mind. When I was I I actually turned to Jess, and I was like, there's not a lot of care for the farm animals in this movie. Like, we see chickens we see chickens at the beginning where they're like, oh, we gotta save the dog. Fuck these chickens.

Fuck the cows. And the cow is just kinda like, oh, look how funny it is. This cow's gonna fucking die. That's a joke. That's comedy.

But we don't. So it's like That's what Jess said. Jess was like, that's not food animals. Yep. Those are those are friend animals.

I'm like, oh, good point. Anyway, the very last moment where they get together fight and, like, they're kissing and everyone's laughing and this family comes out and the family's alive. But I'm like, you all realize their livelihood is gone. Insurance, hopefully, but insurance is a scam. Imagine, like, imagine them turning like that was this is this is petty criminals.

They're just been in my family for generations. This farm is gone. Oh, it didn't take the house. And these, like, group of randos are just, like, laughing and jumping off their property. Be so pissed.

Yeah. Like, what the fuck? Out of here. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of my house.

Like, the actors' choices in the ragtag group of, like, what they did. I mean, I get it as a movie. It's like, oh, yeah. They succeeded, but I'm also like, y'all realize this is someone's farm that's gone. Yeah.

It'd be great if the kids are all crying. Yeah. Yeah. And it just fades out. You see people dancing over here and, like No.

That's just my name. But yeah. Sorry. It's also that nineties trope of, like, we're gonna end this movie with a kiss. We are going to have I do like kiss.

But it is kinda I'm a sucker for it. But this movie is about them Tell me about that. Reuniting. About her and him getting over all their fucking marital issues. That's what it's about.

I really hate to do this. On air, I guess too. Like, what else All of my god. Yeah. I assume the card ends with a kiss.

Like All of them. My bladder's gonna explode. Let's keep talking. I mean, we're at the end of the movie, but, you know, do you have any notes do you have any notes that you haven't been able to share that you wanna share? I mean, it's just belts.

I always assume that they tied themselves to the tubing with belts, but it was more like harnesses for horses. Oh, interesting. That makes more sense, the harnesses. Yeah. Yeah.

I thought it was belts, but they're They're like the same thing, just longer versions. Yes. Belts for horse belt belts for horses. Belts for horses, baby. Those those are all my notes.

Like, I we went through everything. Yeah. I mean, this movie, it was in this this, like, long set piece where I was like, what the fuck is this? What is happening? I'm I'm into it.

Sure. And that's why I have this concern. I turned it I I asked her. I said, like, do you think Twisters do you think it's gonna, like, go harder? And she was like, oh, 100%.

It has to. It's gonna be hotter people, and it's gonna be hard. Twisters are going to be their own identity. They're going to, like But see, this is what I it's it's that level of, like, I don't want it to become for lack of a better, like, reference, I don't want it to become, stakes on a plane. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Like These both rats. In this movie, they don't it just never feels like goofy or satirical. No. Well and I wonder with Twisters too, like, how is the science advanced?

So what are they chasing now? So if you're if Dorothy went up a movie after the actual movie, Twister, I assume Dorothy gave us information. What information have we learned, and why are we still facing them? Well, I mean, I assume because now I forget who I was talking to, somebody who knows more about this than I do. We're like Could be anyone.

Mhmm. You don't even know what we're talking about. Nope. Offensive. That That's the point.

Literally, folks, like, there are there are people who drive who fly into tornadoes now and, like, buy planes. Like, that's something that people do for planes. That's, like, a thing that people do. Like drones, but, like, real planes flying into a Twister. Yeah.

Also, I know all the time. Yeah. No one's ever called it a Twister until now. Got it. Now.

They're gonna have a glass of nato stuff. I think I speak for me and maybe Paul. Do I speak for him? Goddamn it. I think Damn it.

I think we would love to invite you back on our show Oh, that's safe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To do an episode on twisters when it's when it's released. Oh, well, see it, and we should see it in, like, 4 d where it, like, blows Oh my god.

Where it blows us. Yeah. Yes. Wanted to blow us hard. Or it gives you the twister.

Yeah. Alright. We have to rerank this. We're at the end of the movie. We are at the the end of the movie.

I had 3 beers, and you'd think I'd had 12 or Excellent. I've changed my mind on the twister. Okay. Oh, you're going for no. Leonard Leonard fucking I choose me.

I this out by saying an f 4. That was your early ranking. Yeah. That was my early and then I went to an f 2.5. But I've changed my ranking to an f 3.25.

Woah. I love it. Because Big jump. Big jump. Because I've changed the the way I think about this movie completely, changing the twister into a monster movie.

It's changed everything for me. Wow. Yeah. It really made me wanna, like, turn it on after we get off of this podcast app because thinking of it that way, I love horror movies. I love monster movies.

And and thinking of it that way and not just like justice for Jamie Kurtz, an f 3.25. Nice. Thank you. Elias. Steph has been.

I nod in honor. Paul Paul German. Sarah said you were next. Oh, it's me? Next.

Oh, okay. Nice try, though. Okay. Yeah. No.

My bad. I'm I'm gonna stick with my 3 and a half cows. 3a half cows. You're okay sticking with 3. Okay.

I feel like I I've done enough of talking shit about this movie, about, like, what the fuck was that about, as well as talking about the things I really love about this movie and appreciate. And I think 3a half, again, it's a very very high score. Yeah. 3a half Coos in the Scottish pronunciation. Paul German.

Fuck you. That's just my name. That's that's my name. Man, I'm still waffling, like, a little bit. Like, it keep we're changing direction.

The to the the fatties changing direction. There's a part of me that wants to go to, like, 2.5 because there are other, like, you know, goofy or silly or whatever movies that Are you waffling between 2.53.5? And 3. Okay. Staying at 3.

There's there's a okay. So you had both mentioned that the special effects are rough. Visual effects are rough for me. Yeah. Goddamn it, though.

You know what? I think as I'm not willing to do this for cliffhanger, I'm gonna do it for this movie. The home audio experience is wonderful. And you both, like, not only on, you know, Philip Seymour Hoffman and Alan Rock, which we talked about a little bit, and some of the character actors, he'll, hear shouts to Todd Field. But, also, you know, we talked about a little bit with Carrie Owens and just like everybody in the cast in general.

Yeah. The cast is so soft. Job. No nobody's fooling it in. Job.

A 100%. Yes. Nobody's fooling it in. As hard as I can go is 2.5, but I can't give a soft 3. I'm gonna stick with, like, the 3 with the heart.

I will watch this again at some point in my life. 100%. Despite any and all flaws, I don't give a shit. I really love what you said, Ben, about, like it's like, guys, this is a monster movie. Just think of it.

Stop thinking of it as a force of nature. Stop trying to apply logic so much, and that's part of why I can't take that half point away. That's fair. So, what you said, like, helps maintain that that score that I came in with. Yes.

And, also, I love that we all kind of look at it not only the Kaiju way, but do we all kind of look at it the karate kid way too? Or it's like the bad guy you're trying the only bad guys are the tornadoes. There are no other real bad guys. Yeah. No.

I agree. Absolutely agree. We're done. What a blast. Sarah, thank you so much.

Like the calm after a storm. You know? We'll see you soon with a dollar sign. Is there anything you wanna tell these people about anything you're working on or anything you're doing or anything like that? You know, she's a working actor.

She's the voice of IHOP. No. Just follow I am the voice of IHOP. Thank you. Follow my journey is on the only social media platform I use, which is Instagram at scotesi.

It's s c o a t e s y. And I talk a lot about my dog that we met earlier. As you should. Not at saddle saddle I don't do side saddle. Yeah.

Watch out. Going on tonight and try to find at side Sarah, and it'll just be, like, a different personality. Oh, yeah. Be careful. Be careful.

Course. That should be one of your that should be one of your improv characters is Sidesaddle Sara. Yeah. Back pocket that. Real quick shouts to Ben McFadden for interstitials that are so wonderful.

Shouts to Matthew Foskett who does our what are we watching theme. Shouts to Jamie Henwood who does our book and themes that are so, so wonderful that we love. Please follow us on TikTok and Instagram at reviewxtupodcast. We'd love it. This guy is at run bmc on Instagram and Letterboxd.

I'm only on Letterboxd. Don't look for me. Fuck you. That's just my name. On anything you look for me.

That's just my name. On Letterboxd, I'm at Paul acts badly. Sarah, holy shit. What a movie. What a time.

Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. This was wonderful. Sarah is gonna be back for twisters. This is a verbal contract, y'all.

We'll sue her. If she doesn't, get back. And we all know she went to Trump University. So Oh, no. Don't do that.

I went to DC University, and I have a Donald doctorate in communication. All this greediness and lying and shifty lawyers and phony doctors. Phony doctors. Hello. But, oh, questionable.

Yeah. But what Questionable doctor. Donald is the You are the questionable doctor. The the actual duck. The bird.

The actual the real Donald. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Do you want a A blast. Better than a meteorologist. Maybe not a doctor, but a doctor. Thank you.

Aw. Alright, everybody. We're out.

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