HH 4 - The Mummy / One 4 The Mothers (Guest: Ben Burris)

Join us, with Actor/Writer/Director/Puppeteer/FAMILY (family...) member Ben Burris, as we dive into the annals for a deep inspection of "The Mummy," (Dir. Stephen Sommers 1999) Starring: Brendan Fraser, Rachel Weisz, and Arnold Vosloo. Enjoy this whopping 2hr 25min MOTHER OF ALL EPISODES! Really, it's mostly just special effects talk, Mr. T rapping, and a drop in from a very special guest. Happy Mother's Day!

Plot: At an archaeological dig in the ancient city of Hamunaptra, an American serving in the French Foreign Legion accidentally awakens a mummy who begins to wreak havoc as he searches for the reincarnation of his long-lost love.

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Transcript

For our 2 second cold open. Well, yeah. I am not shooting dogs. Alright? I just wanna make that very clear.

Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Review Review. I'm Paul. I am Ben. We have a member of the family here.

Sorry to interrupt you. And I am Benny. Ben and Benny. That's what it's gonna be today? Goodbye, Benny.

We'll get in there. You're on the wrong side of the river. Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Review Review. You heard our family member that's here, Bruce Burrito.

Ben Burrus is here with Ben McFadden and I. This is a special episode. This one's for the mummies. All of our mummies. All the mummies out there.

I just saw my mummy this last week, and I love her so much. Oh. That's nice. Glad she got to come down and visit and this this episode is brought to you by mothers or mummies. Yeah.

Or whatever. Mums. Whatever you call your madres. There is no other Mhmm. Like mother.

So treat her right. Totally. Remember that. The review review. What is this about?

We take a movie that is 7 years old or older. Normally, the movie cannot be part of any major franchise. There are some flexible rules here. Part of the reason we get a little flex here. This is a holiday helping episode for mommy's day.

They're more like guidelines and actual rules. Yeah. 7 years old or older, not part of any major franchise, 2 hours and 22 minutes or less unless you get a magic one off of one of our lists. And this one is from Ben McFadden's list. It is.

And it is the classic mummy, which we will get into very, very deep and sandy and dark. But first, Paul, how are you? Shit. I'm doing pretty well. I wanna also define when Ben, not Benny, Ben says the classic mummy.

This is the mummy from 99. Yes. So depend I mean, that's Not the 59 Wait. Not the 33. We didn't watch the Jake Johnson one.

From 2017? Yeah. That freaking classic? That's no one's called that movie a classic ever. Every And also the Jake Johnson one.

And also the Jake Johnson one. Not that's he's not the headliner of that movie. What do you want? Maybe not for you. Did we watch the same movie?

Shout out to all the Johnson heads out there. Do we try to watch the same movie? Jake Johnson has a pretty good podcast too. He's great. We will not be speaking on the Tom Cruise mummy.

Oh, shit. Except to maybe talk about how bad it is in comparison. I can't. You've never seen it? I've never been able to finish it.

You're you're probably So I can't speak on it. It would be unfair to the film and the filmmakers. No. You've seen the movie. It just doesn't make any sense.

That's too bad. And then the ending makes less sense, And then Russell Crowe is there. And that's It's like, why is general thunderbolt Ross here? And why is, like, Yakko Warner in the background? The transparency of their intentions in that movie of creating this universe, it's like you can see the strings.

You can see the producers being like, we need a we need a Nick Fury. We need a we need to bring these teams together. And you're like Yeah. They should've just given Russell Crowe an eye patch at this point. I mean, it's it's that problem where I think the studios and we know this now.

Studio took all of the wrong lessons from when the MCU was succeeding. Oh, yeah. Even the MCU took the wrong lessons from when the MCU was succeeding. Seems so. Yeah.

So I think, like, I think let's talk let's not talk about that movie anymore. Okay. Fair enough. Because, Paul, I wanna know how the fuck are you? I'm okay.

My back's, like, been mildly acting up at times. I'm really excited to be here talking about this as I always am. This is a recurring theme. I really enjoy this program. I'm producing this program.

I really enjoy the With folks like y'all and family members like Bruce Burrito. 20 to 40 people that listen to it. Oh, man. Our listenership went up by, like, 10, and nobody told me. That's pretty cool.

But overall, you know what? In the moment, I'm a okay. Benny, how are you? Doing alright. Getting on and stuff.

Keeping on keeping on. Are you doing blink twice if you need help. Yeah. Do we keep doing this segment? Do we drop this one?

You know, everything post pandemic has been like, how are you? It's like, you know? Yeah. I'm a person. It's just, you know, their work is almost nonexistent because of, you know, there's still strike stuff and everything like that, and I hope everyone gets what they need, and that's great.

And then, hopefully, people will book the sound stage I work at, and then I'll have work. Yeah. And that's great. The industry still hasn't and probably will never feel the same. Ben, before you tell me how you're doing Sure.

I'm going to try to compress the rant that I went on when we spoke off of the microphones. Okay. It really gives me a heavy heart that some of the folks that run studios and own studios seem to think that the way to produce content or, quote, unquote, art is by figuring out a way to marginalize the artists that create these beautiful things that we get to see and hear and feel. And, it really makes me wanna fucking puke that these non creative people want to create a situation that they can barf 8 sentences into a computer, and then it throws a 2 hour movie together and they say, I made that. And that's the world they wanna create.

And it makes me really sad. So I just want you folks that are listening to know this. We love you. We appreciate you. We're all people that sit and watch these movies and work hard on bringing you this program.

And, however many or few you are, you are loved and recognized. So thank you. Ben, how are you? Well, that was really well phrased. Thanks.

I am doing okay. I'm I'm alive in the world. Yeah. I'm feeling inspired to create these days and wanting to make things because no one else is letting me. So I love doing this.

I love doing this with you guys. Yeah. I I I enjoy it as well because you can't wait. No. Can't wait in this industry.

And so making shit is fun. And I really like talking about really good movies. Well, are you gonna have a chance to do that today at some point? I think I might. Oh, weird.

Well, I guess we'll decide on that at some point. Yeah. We've talked about how we're doing. Now it's that time. What are we watching?

Oh, I feel it. Oh, shit. What are we watching? You didn't you knew this was coming. I know, but I didn't follow.

It's here. On my drawings, that was because I was being accurate to what was being displayed in the movie. It was good. It was. It was just sick.

It was on our Instagram. But that's the thing. Like, you know, an artist inspired another artist. Yeah. Like, I don't know what you want.

He did a good job. The rendering was solid. I bit the bullet. I watched the White Men Can't Jump remake. Oh my gosh.

Oh. What If I had never seen the Woody Harrelson, Wesley Snipes, 5 star masterpiece, Stanley Kubrick's, but his favorite movie from that year, undoubtedly. It's not a bad movie. Interesting. I can't fully remove myself from the predecessor.

How could you? So I could never watch this again. Okay. But I can understand how the young folks with the Riz would think this is lit. No cap.

Boy, there are no children here at the 4 h club either. Am I so out of touch? No. It's the children who are wrong. It's got its moments and, like, folks now, the youths now, they struggle with some different things and they try to touch on that in the movie.

Sometimes it works. Sometimes I'm not sure how well it works. I don't fucking direct or write movies. I I'm an armchair quarterback. I also have been rewatching some of the grand tour on Amazon, and the movies that they make are so fun.

Like, the camaraderie that 3 these 3 gentlemen have, building insane cars and throwing dildos at each other and, like, doing whatever. It's like, man, who could be so lucky as to be like, yeah, I'm just gonna mod out this 19 seventies Maserati and drive it across the desert Yeah. And rock out to whatever and play pranks on each other. It's just like, man, these guys, like I'm sure it's extremely hard work, but it's like, man, they must live the dream. Sure.

Yeah. Remember seeing a clip from an episode they did in some town in one of our southern states? Mhmm. And then them getting followed and chased via car on the road, and they had to, like, hide until they passed. The thing that's really fun for me is I'm not always sure what is produced and what is real.

It's fun. I love it. Me. I started the Netflix series, Ripley, which is the talented mister Ripley series. And I've only watched 2 episodes, but I'm really enjoying it.

I actually enjoyed it way more than I thought I was going to. Okay. I remember being, like, I'll give this a go. Why not? And, it's engaging.

I think Andrew Scott that's his name. Right? Andrew Scott? Yes. Yeah.

Andrew Scott's one of those actors that when he does less, it's way more interesting to me. Mhmm. I think that, like, he is a very talented actor, and sometimes I think he thinks he can push it to a point of going, like, a little big. And it starts to his Moriarty in Sherlock is, like it's fine, but it it starts to become kind of unbelievable. You know what I mean?

But when he does less, like, when he's a hot priest in Fleabag or in this, I feel like he he really kinda, like, hits on a really nice subtle note. And not to compare it to Matt Damon because I think they're not really a comparable they're very different, but I'm enjoying it. Okay. Are you watching it? I watched the first episode Okay.

And I really enjoyed it. Yeah. And just to say, like, his more low energy stuff, as you were saying, it also allows him to then punctuate things a little bit of a higher Uh-huh. Yeah. Bigger moments.

Mhmm. Like, at the end of the first episode Dude, that's all I'm gonna say. Yeah. I wasn't yeah. But his look, he does he does a really good job in that show in particular of giving us so much story with just his eyes.

Mhmm. You can see a switch you see the switch. You can see Yeah. And the thought process and yeah. There is a list of dudes that I think Andrew Scott for me is on.

It's also Scoop McNary. McNary. Oh, sure. Sam Rockwell. I was gonna you know what's funny?

Viggo Mortensen. He he to me, he's a British Sam Rockwell. Oh, wonderful. Totally. Like, what a cool comp.

That's what I see. Like, he they they have very similar vibes. There are some of those actors out there that can just pull everything and understand that everything is really that's where all is is in the eyes. Yeah. And, that guy, I think, is in I'm surprised you haven't started it yet because I know you're a fan of the talented of I am.

I'm a huge fan of that. Is that why The new Minkhello movie. Is that why you've been hesitant? Yes. Yeah.

That makes sense. No. That totally makes sense. Yeah. It nail me hammer.

Yes. I'm feeling very confident now though. I feel like I'm on the wings of the dove now. I think you should give it a go. Okay.

Give it a go. I'm in. I'm gonna try to get my girlfriend in on that one because I'm sure she'd probably be into it. It's also weird to watch Dakota Fanning be, like, a sexy adult. I even feel weird saying that.

Yeah. Can can you leave? Yeah. Sorry. Wait.

That's disgusting. Weirder than her little sister, Elle? I think so because I didn't watch her, like, from, like, a young age True. Throughout. Like, we saw her in Super Aid.

Super Aid. That's what it is. Either way, this episode's for the mothers. Thing I ever saw. This episode is for the mothers.

This is for the mothers. Like, no other. You mean, like, the mother like, Sam Jackson mothers? Like, well get these snakes off this plane. Get these Monday through Friday snakes off this Monday through Friday.

Mad and frightened snakes off this Monday. I also don't appreciate Paul that you're always editing my when I'm saying them. Like just let me say sometimes. I'll never. I'll never.

Wow. Anyway. Fuck. Never. Burts.

Why didn't you you didn't you didn't edit me. You only edit him? That's that's wrong. He only edits my mother. I can't I can't believe it.

Burrito, what have you been watching? Okay. Ripley? Mhmm. Oh, I started also on Netflix, baby reindeer.

I hear that's good. Watch it. Yeah. Okay. I'm I am 3 or 4 in, and I hear that it just gets even more intense.

Okay. It's really well done. And it's Okay. Yeah. I'm I'm enjoying it.

It's a It's one that I don't really know where it goes. Anything about, which I kind of enjoy. Yeah. I've stayed away from anything. You're the 3rd person and the person I hold in the highest regard to say, watch baby reindeer.

This may be the key the this unlocks the door. You're the key master, and he's the gatekeeper. That's right. Yeah. There is no Dana, only Paul.

Sorry. Oh, great thing about the key master from Ghostbusters. You know, it's just a funny joke because he keeps losing his keys earlier in the movie, and then he becomes the key master. Have you seen my keys? Yeah.

Yeah. He keeps locking himself out of the apartment, and then he becomes the key master. And then he Brilliant. Shrinks those kids. I did in fact shrink those children of ours.

I just wanna be honest with you, honey. I didn't. I did, for a fact, if you do believe it, have a situation where I've accidentally shrunken those offspring of ours. And maybe the neighbors as well. We'll find them, I think.

Yeah. Oh, boy. We'll find them. Check your shoes. We'll look in Allego.

What else have I been watching? I watched, I've been watching a Dead Boy Detectives. Oh, yeah. Because I I love Neil Gaiman. So and this is apparently this is also part of the Sandman universe that they're building.

So intrigued. Not filmed in Washington state despite being set in Washington state. Mhmm. I don't know. I rewatched, the Babadook.

Oh. Oh. Which was enjoyable and, you know, creepy. You should tell Paul the story of when you watch it when we live together. Yeah.

It just came out, like, on DVD, so I rented it. And, and I was just watching it. I think you were out of town. I had all the lights off, and I was just watching the Babadook because it's summertime. It's getting, like, the creepy, like, she has, like, the cover over her head, and you hear, babadook.

And then, like, that moment passes, and then it's another really silent moment. I hear again, ba ba dook dook dook, except it wasn't coming from the TV, and it was coming from behind me. Behind me, my window was open, which is directly behind me, and our upstairs neighbor was watching it through the window and then just, like, decided to freak the hell out of me. That's awesome. It was amazing.

And, like, I, like, I had this, like, and I looked and he was, like, that's a great movie, And then he started laughing. He's like, yeah. I'm really enjoying it. You scared the shit out of me. Alright.

I spilled water on my pants earlier. I'm fine. Okay. See you later. Yeah.

That ain't piss. I just normally sweat this much. That ain't piss. Okay? So should we move on to this movie?

Oh, you bet me. Don't let me, Leo. Talk about some facts. Let's do it. Archaeology is the search for facts.

I'll I'll tell you this for So we all watched The Mummy. It is a Universal Studios Pictures. It was released in 1999. It is PG 13. It is 2 hour and 4 minutes.

The budget for this movie is 80,000,000. Adjusted, that's a 149.9. Opening weekend, May 9, 1999, 999, 999,000. 43,400,000 it made. Adjusted, that is 81 point 3.

Final gross, North America, a 156.5 adjusted, that is 293.4. That's a lot. That's a lot of money. Final gross worldwide, 417.1 adjusted, that's 781,900,000. That's a lot of money.

Is a lot. You gotta give. You gotta give. Good times and noodle salad. Other releases this weekend?

Not applicable. They were scared. They were scared off by the mummy? They should have been. By my mummy.

Mhmm. I mean, this is mummies can be scary. It's not shit. My mom was never that scary, to be honest. Mine is the scariest.

Weekend top 5. This movie, Entrepment, The Matrix, Life, Election. I appreciate they're all, like, short titles. Yeah. I like that.

Entrapment, the movie everyone watched just to watch Catherine Zeta Jones dip beneath a laser. How do we dip your ass between that laser, actually. Isn't that a direct line? I'm the man now, Dom. Top five films this year, domestic Star Wars, The Phantom Menace.

That's a that's like a satellite that they put in orbit. It's a French film, The Phantom Menace. Trying to do a thing. The Phantom Menace. Now this is podcast.

Yeah. So does anybody else think that the duel of the fates is like the ultimate fucking mind taper battle? I love it. The 6th Sense Toy Story 2, Austin Powers, the spon who shagged me. Yeah.

Look at me. And the Matrix. Banger year. Yeah. It that was the domestic top five.

I think we've done the global. So there's your domestic. And other films from 1999, Mumford, Jacob the liar, the Rugrats movie, message in a bottle, stepmom, end of days, the prince of Egypt, baby geniuses, there was no Steven Seagull released this year, the year of our Steve, 1999, Stevenson, Livingston, Seagull coming 2033. Benny and I are working on it. We're gonna pitch it.

Mhmm. Okay. It's gonna happen. Let her You missed one movie. Tell me.

She's All That. Oh. And I'm gonna There she goes. They took her glasses off. There she goes.

She was hot. Again. Funny moment from 9 other teen movie is when when someone says something about the girl with glasses and they're like, well, she could be hot. And they're like, what? Her?

She has glasses. And a ponytail. Hey, Burris. Benny. Sorry.

Thank you for mentioning that. I thought that was important. Yeah. I agree. There she Letterbox average 3.5.

Follow us on Letterbox. I'm at run b m c. I'm at Paul acts badly. Burris is at been there, been been here, been there. I think so.

You are. Ben, I was on the phone call. Last time. Okay. Good.

Ben done before. Bend over. Ebert at the movies, 2 thumbs up. Yeah? Rotten Tomatoes, 61%.

Gee. Metacritic, 48. Hey. Bullshit. Major movie award nom wins and nominations, Oscar nominee for best sound, which I will confirm, seeing in the movie theater, sound was fucking baller.

Yeah. Home home theater experience is also pretty fucking impressive. Like, going back to the theater and seeing this was like it just, like, reaffirmed that to a point where I was like, holy fuck. The sound design on this is incredible. I wanna say real quick, the Metacritic again was 48.

Benny, there's a word you said there. I want you to say it with your chest. You can go ahead and say it. Alright. You said the b s word.

Yeah. You said it. Go Bullshit. Yeah. Get them.

Okay. Oscar nominated film. What do you want? I mean, it's me, Paul. Snubbed for score.

Hey, Paul. Talking about people. Snubbed for best score. Great score. Yeah.

Director of this film is Stephen Summers? Van Helsing? Oh, GI Joe Rise of Cobra. Mhmm. Deep Rising?

Oh, boy. Rent Deep Rising starring Treat Williams. R I p. I, I just I remember being really excited for Van Helsing, and I went to the movie and saw it with, former guest of this podcast, Dymphense Need, and I was wildly disappointed. Boy.

Yeah. Wildly. I but I was very excited for it. It's like, hey. I'm gonna transfer from the sexiest cast ever to the sexiest cast ever.

And it's Summers What? Doing another monster movie. Yep. Like Mhmm. The the recipe for success is there except maybe he is not a writer?

Was that the original intent of Van Helsing? And, like, was was Steven Summers piloting that ship and then producers piloting that ship? Was it were there 2 attempts at a dark universe? Yeah. I don't know.

But he's really fallen off. He hasn't done anything in the last 10 years. Yeah. I got a fun fact Please. About Ben Hilsing.

That's where in NFL now, cameras are all done by chords. Yeah. You know, 3 or 4 points and done. That was invented for this movie. There's a big shot where this the camera just speeds down into a way up high into the town and then, like, stops right in front of Hugh Jackman's face.

That's was basically that that was that system that they invented for that shoot, and they had never done it prior. And so there was, like, this possibility that the camera wouldn't stop and then just smash into each other. I Take out Wolverine. I'm gonna say something I'll never say again. Thank you, Stephen Summers as Van Helsing Yeah.

For not only that fun fact, but also dope angles in the NFL. I mean, how close are we to NFL just having drones? Pretty close. Yeah. Pretty close.

Riders, Stephen Summers. Mhmm. Lloyd Fonville? Alright. Rest in peace.

Cherry 2,000 starring Melanie Griffith. And Kevin Jar Jare Jare. Rest in peace, Tombstone. Oh. Look at everyone's filmographies in terms of writing and watch some of those films.

Kevin, thank you so much for your work on this film. Yeah. Really appreciate the script of this film to a great degree. Director of photography was Adrian Biddle, RIP. RIP.

Alien dollar sign. Thelma and Louise, Event Horizon. Great. Wow. Music, Jerry Goldsmith, RIP.

Gremlins, gremlins 2. Leviathan, Rudy. My cat? Mhmm. You betcha.

Producers, Sean Daniel, Pootie Tang, and James Jacks, r I p, the great, the wonderful, please someone bring it, Raising Arizona. Brendan Fraser as Rick O'Connell. Airheads, the greatest reverse Die Hard ever. Hey, let's do Die Hard from the infiltrators perspective. And they're idiots.

Great movie. Yeah. Encino Man, great movie. Gods and monsters. And Cornish's favorite son.

Great movie. And Cornish's tied for second favorite son With Charles. Just behind Charles Norris tied with Benjamin Nefed. I guess Ben Burrus is I'll just chop liver over here. That's fine.

I you you guys have to fight it out with Charles. I didn't go to Cornish. It's between y'all. Burris, you're number 1 in my heart, my soul, my brain, my pantaloons. Great.

That's where it counts. This is peak phrase. Like, peak phrase in this movie. Yeah. His wheelhouse, peak sexiness.

He's he's hitting on all cylinders. Mhmm. Yeah. Rachel Weitz. Yeah.

I did that one too. Eevee, Black Widow, the fountain, the born legacy. A movie I've never seen. A franchise I enjoy. Oh, yeah.

But a movie I've never seen. John Hannah as Jonathan, The Hurricane, The Overboard remake, and Enemy Lines. Oh, Dead Fair, R Death, Deuce Bigelow, Male Gigolo, Resident Evil Extinction, Texas Rangers. Kevin O'Connell as Benny, Widows. Peggy Sue got married, the master.

Jonathan Hyde as doctor Chamberlain, Anaconda Jumanji, Titanic. Whoo. What, like, bang, bang, bang. Yeah. That one.

I saw him in a production of King Lear. He played fuck. I forget who he played, but he it was Ian McKellen was there. And he was my lord. Yeah.

He was in it as well. That must have been incredible. It was great. Arnold Vosloo as Imotep. Dark man, the severely underappreciated John Woo directed.

Sam Raimi produced. Hard Target. Jean Claude Van Damme starring Hard Target and also Wilford Brimley. Yeah. That's right.

As uncle Duchamp or whatever his name is. Charles, you come to see your uncle Duvet. And Blood Diamond. He was also in, do you remember the movie The Constant Gardener? Yeah.

He was also in that. Oh, yeah. With Rachel Weitz and Rafe Fiennes. Yeah. His name is is spelled neither Rafe nor Fiennes.

Just so you know. Man, Mike Myers. Eric Avary was Terence Bay. Mister Deeds, Stargate, Paul Blart, Mall Cop. Stargate, one of the only movies I've seen in the theater in the very, very front row.

Fun little personal fact. Burris? I hear you have some fun facts for us. They're fun. Do I?

Fun facts. Fun facts. Everybody, it's fun fact time. Brendan Fraser, nearly died during a scene where the his character is hanged. He stopped breathing and was nonresponsive and had to be resuscitated.

That's insane. Wild. I I just and, like, I watched the movie today, and that scene that's all I was thinking about because I didn't know this fact beforehand, but I was just like, that seemed that seemed dangerous. That seemed When he drops I don't know if that's a stunt person or not. And and also it's just like I know he did a lot of his own stunts.

Clearly. Like, he was Beautiful stunt working this way. And that's why his body is, like, suffered So no doubt. Since then. The entire library disaster scene was achieved in a single tape.

That's like a Buster Keaton. It's so good. That yeah. But, like, the I I remember they did that, and I turned to Jess in the movie now. And I've already I've seen the movie a 1000 times, but I turned around.

I was like, they had one chance to get that. Like, let's be honest. They had one They're not resetting it. Chance. No.

No. No. What a nightmare. Rachel Weitz being on that ladder straight up, like you said, like, Buster Keaton, Charlie Cha like Yeah. Incredible physical actors that I agree.

Like, it's just like Yeah. Like, it's fucking beautiful. Rachel Weitz was the only actor to be offered the role of Eevee. Fuck yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know if anyone else was offered Rick or if they read many people. Yeah. I couldn't find much about that. Lion, bear, and cougar roars are blended together to create Imhotep's painful and angry scream.

That was good. Thank you. I'd blend that in there. I've been practicing. Writer and director Clive Barker, formerly, for, Hellraiser and Nightbreed, was attached to this project during the early nineties.

Barker's film was envisioned as a very dark and scary full on horror shot on a low budget. Cool. Interesting. I'd be interested in seeing that. Sure.

Steven Summers is quoted as saying the average cost of an effects shot for this film was a $125,000. I'd watch a dollar 25¢? A $100.25. But for the price of a dollar 25 every day, you can support the starving mothers. Mother.

In need. Got a lot of mothers out there. You gotta give. You gotta give. That ain't piss.

Mhmm. As we discussed, the Babadook. This is all about mothers this episode. I am so pleased to meet you. Really good.

Really really good. Hey, everyone. Stay tuned. This is a really really important message for, to, from, with, about, the mothers. Oh my gosh.

We forgot the log line. I'm gonna try to riff one right now, and then I'll look it up and give you the real one. An adventurer librarian and some of their friends accidentally release the vengeful spirit of Imhotep as a mummy, and they must stop him with their wit and moxie to save the world. I don't think this says wit or moxie. At an archaeological dig in the ancient city of Hamunaptra, an American serving in the French foreign legion accidentally awakens a mummy who begins to wreak havoc as he searches for the reincarnation of his lost love.

This one's for the mummies. 19 ninety nine's The Mummy. Oh, hello, and good evening. This is Richington Victory in Mappenson 7th, Esq, CEO of Mommy Time. I love my mother, founder of Mommy Time, and creator of the kid contract, Verona Alera Marishka, Esquire.

I love her so much. And she loves me, and she's protected me for 53 years by her creation, the mommy time kid contract. Did you know that most children are able to speak and write or scroll little Johnny Hannoncock by age 4? So, technically, they are able to sign legally binding contracts. Our mommy time kid contract clearly communicates your parenthood of said chime that signs signator and also awards you power of attorney over your offspring indefinitely.

You'll never have to shop alone, go to the movies alone, go to work functions alone, but by Jove, even die alone. That's right. The mommy time kid contract ensures you'll have a best friend until the very end. And by that, I mean our kid contract specifically states in article 5 g gamma that when one party expires, the remaining party shall smoke the ricin cigarette from Breaking Bad and be buried beneath the other. Is it legal?

Well, it's gone from 3 pages when I signed some odd 50 years ago to 988,554,666 pages of AI bullshit just this last year. So good luck getting out of it. Mine was only 3 pages, and my lawyers are stumped. I am stuck. I am totally fucked.

And my mom doesn't have long, and I don't want a smoke to rise mother. Mother, is that you? If you'd like to make a call, please hang up and try again. If you need help, hang up and then dial your operator. Mommy time kid contract.

Never die alone. The rice and cigarette from breaking bad. That's that's not scary. Oh, what a future present. Hey.

It's Paul. Thanks so much for listening to our Mother's Day episode of the review review. Don't sign any contracts with anyone without having an attorney look over them. You can very safely follow us at reviewx2podcast on Instagram and TikTok. Ben is at run dmc on Letterboxd.

I am at paulax badly on Letterboxd. You know, thingies cross rolled. Richington, victory part 7 there, Yeah. Kid contract sounds like a rough deal. 1st robot food delivery.

Now this anyway. You know, when we're recording, I assume we already are. I don't know. I'm I'm more like the, like the Jeff Bate of school. This is yeah.

We're recording. Welcome to Ham Land. It is my honor, my privilege to introduce the star of Bless This Jess. Jessica Aaron Martin is here. Whoo!

To talk to us a little bit about Yes, indeed. To talk to us a little bit about previous current experience about the mummy Yes. Before the 3 of us unpack it, just in case it may give us a little perspective. I think this is very important. The floor is yours.

In 1999 oh, here's Rudy. Oh, we get a meow. Meow. He's just sitting there now. It's a good thing we have a cat here because it'll keep the mummies open.

Yeah. Exactly. That's why I brought him. Correct. So in 1999, I I remember the trailer for this film, and I remember it looking very scary because they use the scenes of, like, the sand mouth eating the plane and the scarabs, like, skittering down the hallway and the tomb at them.

It was not on my list of movies to watch at that time. And I still don't like scary movies. Then I married this guy. Rudy is touching my finger. Oh my goodness.

I guess you're not a mummy. Oh, you passed the test. I'm not a piece of shit. Wow. I'm not service, Rudy.

Oh my god. Oh my god. Finger service. So so Yes. Go on.

Go on. So we watched the film. And I'm, like, is this gonna be scary? And he's, like, no. And so we watch the movie, and it is delightful.

It's delightful. It is so fun, funny, and adventurous, and romantic, and it's like an adventure movie that does not get made anymore. Had a very enjoyable time the first time I saw it, and then we've watched it. I feel like we've had nights where it's like, let's just watch The Mummy. Yeah.

And we just put on the DVD. And then most recently this week, we saw the 25th anniversary screening of it, at the Universal AMC, a theater packed with millennials repeating the lines and cheering to this movie, and it it was wonderful. Yeah. I you know, 1999, that was a big year for a lot of things. And, you know, we got The Matrix, we got the prequels, we got The Mummy.

We we got a lot of things. We didn't know it at the time, but we were really spoiled in 1999. Al Gore's Internet had barely taken over. Do you want to drop your 5 sentence review and give us your star rating? Gotta get we gotta get a rating on this movie.

Gotta get it. I I had to be prepared. Thank well, Thank you for not doing it during my speech, unlike people during my show the first night I did it. Oh. Oi.

That was good. Probably. It wasn't me. You were shit. No.

I think I only saw it recently in in the last few years, I guess. I don't think my rating would have had time to change, you know, much like having seen it in my youth and then seeing it now. I think it's a pretty perfect movie. So I'm gonna say 5 out of 5 Cats. Okay.

I have to really quickly ask, is there a specific reason, a specific scene, a specific moment that it's just like, this is my shit. This isn't my zone. Watching it on Monday, I was reminded that the Rachel Weisz character you know, obviously, she's gorgeous because she's Rachel Weisz. But I feel, like, really smart, intelligent, young women, you know, the those, like, female leads, they didn't really exist. Or, you know, they would, you know, soon be in, like, a crop top, and it it'd be more revealing.

It was but I feel like they really kept her dignity intact. She was always fully clothed, you know, in varying degrees of, like, tightness and sheerness, but still Yeah. Yeah. Things were covered. It wasn't about, like, ogling her.

Like, the shots of of Rick seeing her romantically would be close ups of her face. And it was, like, who she was as a person and the fact that she's a librarian. Yeah. She just was so happy to be a librarian and to, like she's very serious about her studies. That's a lot of fun for me.

If I had seen this movie, I can't I regret not seeing this movie when I was younger. Like, in the theater, first run. Or or, like, you know, renting it at the video store. Okay. Probably what we would have done.

We weren't a big, like, movie theater going family, but we would go to the video store. And I think I would have watched it several times before we had to, like it was, like, the 3 day rental. Remember? Yeah. Yeah.

So I probably would've watched it at least twice before we had to take it back. Right. And I think I would've loved it. Boy, we're gonna get into this while we're talking about it. But I can only imagine where it's like you're coming into watching this movie and it's like Brendan Fraser.

It's got all these graphics and explosions and all this other bullshit. And then you start to watch the movie and as a young lady, what you're talking about, I can only imagine where it's like, oh my god. This is my journey too. That's cool. Like, that's very cool.

Well, I think we're maybe doing better, but definitely in 1999, you're only marketing liar. Yeah. You're only marketing to young men. Yeah. That's it.

It looked scary. It looked tough. It looked all of these things, and these, like, more, like, soft romantic moments were not included in any of the marketing because Yeah. That's not the target demographic. Right?

Girls wouldn't like this movie. That's very much not the case. She's so capable. She's so capable. And it's so She's so I love it.

She's so cape but we talked about this too. Yeah. She still gets really goofy moments. And it's great. Like the like the buzzer key moment where it's like, when when else do you see get to see, like, a woman get to be goofy who isn't, like, a heavyset woman?

You know? Yeah. Like Especially at that time. Like, it's like this is not Like, women did not get to be funny. How.

Unless Yeah. They were the romantic female lead, unless they're Cameron Diaz, did not get to be funny at that time. And Unless they have cum in their hair. Right? That's, like, that's the thing.

It's, like Yeah. That's a good point. It has really stood the test of time. Okay. And that half of that crowd on Monday was women Yeah.

Who were there loving this movie just as much as the fellas, our non binary siblings, everyone in between. I feel like there's just a lot of representation in this movie for everyone Okay. To enjoy. Great. It's great that she's not she's not the damsel.

She's never the damsel. Yeah. She she can truly her own. Jessica, thank you so much. Thank you.

Yes. I am so confident in this. You're appearing for a holiday helping. I am using my invite for a holiday helping for an episode in December. Please watch Gremlins with us.

I think you'll really like it. I will watch Gremlins. You'll do it? I'll do it. I'll watch Gremlins.

Yes. We we could do, like, a live tweet. Live stream. Love it. What we what do you call that anymore?

I don't a Twitch, a Discord We've talked about this before. It's Yeah. It's not I gotta figure I'm lazy. I gotta I'm Yeah. Kinda dumb.

So I gotta figure some stuff out. But I just really I love a lot of what you said, and it hit me, like, 2 different times where I was like, I feel like you might really enjoy gremlins. I probably would. I hope so. I mean, I'm getting braver with movies.

There are some things, like, the alien. Loved it. So you thought I was gonna be too scared. I wasn't. Funny is I use Stranger Things as a litmus.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. 1st season of Stranger Things. That's spooky. But I'll say, like, it's it's not as scary as Stranger Things.

You're like, okay. Or I'll be like, it's a step above stranger things. Okay. And then I have to think about it. Because we're like you saw it, which I was like, I say it was a step above stranger thing.

Yeah. That's got a couple, like, solid jump scares. Yeah. It's spooky scary. Can we let's send Jessica off properly before we place in a file.

Do you have the theme to Oppenheimer? Is that what you're gonna play? I'm gonna I'm going to play the specific theme for Jessica that's been established on this program. Oh, wow. Like, hey.

Get excited. Okay. Alright. Thank you so much. Because you made me verify your work.

Is that the sound you think a firework makes? Like, when it goes off. Like, a woman can't Reverse that. It should Rudy does not like this. Shut up.

Shut up. I am just really touched that someone would even think of a sound at all for me. And the fact that it's out was sure great. Like, I what an honor to have a sound effect for me. Yes.

Podcast this is. 2, 1. We put So long, my wife. Thank you so much. I'm gonna go hang out with the cat now.

She'll be safe from the mummy. Don't worry. She has a cat. Okay. Promise.

Okay. No. That's a really good point. That was fun. Yeah.

I hope someday that was sound effect. I like that. We had a little we had a little cameo. Yeah. I like that a lot.

You know, she was in Oppenheimer. It's true. It won Best Picture. Wait. She did.

Oppenheimer? She was. You mean Best Picture? That's true. Oppenheimer?

Yeah. That movie award winner. Multi academy award winning movie Oppenheimer? It's really good that we got Jess' perspective. I definitely am my the wheels are already turning about how I feel about this.

I can see it through your eyes because you're that good of an actor. Man. Wow. For some what? Well Just gonna roll it out.

I was gonna gonna go in You're almost you're almost too present. Rolling. A quote from me in a Meisner program. Almost too present. Oh, no.

Alright, Marissa. Give us give us give us our, our poison. You're always good at this when you listen to it. I did. I did.

I did. I did. I did. I did. I did.

I did. I did. I did. You got the free buzz. What do we got?

Oh. Okay. K. Don't lock them. I can't.

I got I'm I'm I'm done. I'm I'm rambling, so I don't think. Just say it. Are you really? Lawrence Fishburne.

Okay. Give us the movie then. What's the movie? I'll do, Boyz n the Hood. Deep cover.

The Matrix. Matrix 2. Matrix, we may What's the what is it? Matrix 1? Full title.

Loaded. Matrix Revolutions. Does he appear in those movies? He's not in? He's dead by that point.

Yeah. He's not in. Revolutions is the third one. Right? He's dead.

The 4th one. Shit. No. You're thinking no. Rev Rev fuck.

What? This titling sequence. No. Okay. Okay.

We've already But he died in the he dies doesn't he die in the first one? No. He's in 2 and 3. He's in 1, 2, 3. But he's not in the 4th one.

No. But didn't I say the name of the third one? Did. The the 4th one is, resurrections. Okay.

Then it's your turn, Ben. Alright. John Wick 3 Parabellum? That's I'm almost sure that's right. Okay.

John Wick 2? No. Is he not in John Wick 2? No. We're gonna give you first appears in 3.

Yeah. I believe that's true. We're gonna have you start. 1st experience with this movie. Boris is gonna look it up.

Nope. Moving on. We're moving on. We've moved on. That's fine.

My first I'm gonna look it up while I'm talking about this. My first experience, I I saw this in the theaters when it came out. No shit. I don't remember much other than really liking this movie. Yeah.

You know, I was just like, oh, this is awesome. And that was that was kind of it. He's in John Wick too. Oh. Just just so you know.

I think that's fair. Higher learning. Oh, we're still we're still going. No. I, I got well, I got taken out even though it is Just keep going.

Talk experience. So just wanna make it known. You were doing really well, by the way. You you'll have an asterisk by your loss. Alright.

Yeah. I saw theaters. Had a great time. It was 1999, and I was You were partying like it was 15? 15.

You weren't 15 yet. No. Not 15. Where can we just start over this? I was 60 6.

I think you would have been 13 or 14. No. I was 11. No. I You were born in 85?

Yeah. So add About 9. 14? 14. 13, 14?

13, 16. This was May of 19. So you were you were 14. So you saw it in the theater either way. That's the that's the important part.

Oh, I'm so embarrassed right now. Well, put your dick away. What put your burrito away. How do I how do you talk about this movie otherwise? That's a good point.

This movie does require a full erection. I'm just following your lead. Yes. That's like a week old bean and cheese. That's a frozen bean and cheese.

Not a taquito. No. Full burrito. That's a king-size bean and cheese. So I froze.

I was 14. You know, I enjoyed it. I remember really loving it, and I've always loved it. 5. Can you give it a star from that point?

You know he hates it. Oh, yeah. He hates it. That'd be so amazing. He comes he's like, this is a one star movie.

This is garbage. It's like the whole shit thing. This is a dumpster fire. You guys are fucking 80. Like this you walked out of the theater on a fucking high.

This is like a 5 or what? I'd probably give this a 5. This was a movie that I loved Brendan Fraser. And that movie it just the whole movie just slaps. Yeah.

And it had effects special effects that were new. Yeah. And, like, there's a lot of acclaim to, like, the face in the sand and and, you know, like, the mummy itself. And I remember watching, like, making of things because, like, oh, those are rubber masks on those mummy monk, or priests. The priest.

You know? And, like, I was like, oh, cool. I was like, there's Yeah. Remembering, like, how they did everything. It's a fantastic movie.

I would give it, 5 Benny and the Jetsons. That's your current ranking? No. For for then. Let's just get rid of Benny.

Right? And you watched this again today. Yes. And where are we? Where are we now in this moment?

Post Jess, post viewing, where you at? About the same. I don't remember the last time I've watched it. I still knew the movie by heart. Like, I knew what was happening next, and it was just really fun.

And there's storytelling. We don't have that anymore. You know? This that was a time period where we had these really amazing action films or what you know? Yeah.

You compare them to what we're given now, and there's just you're lacking character. You're lacking plot. You know? There's no story. It's just all action.

I have high hopes for Fall Guy. 8 AI prompts that David's awesome. Looks like it might walk back. Getting way too in it Yeah. Oh, yeah.

And ruining a vision. You know? This movie would never get made today. Yeah. We're gonna talk a lot if we're going clockwise.

I guess it's me. It is you. The first time I saw this movie was at the Cineplex Odeon 6 in Tacoma, Washington. I can smell it. It wasn't a packed house.

I think it was, like, the 3rd or 4th week it was out. I had a pretty good time. I wanna say, like, I I walked out at 4. I'm gonna stick with the rating system I used. Pristine, cream colored, beautiful felines.

It's so funny. The Gorgeous cat. I knew you were That cat is fucking beautiful. God. Remember when I was guessing your ranking system?

I should've guessed because I I I Yeah. I had a feeling this was Anytime I can use some sort of cat, apparently, I'm going to. Oh, just as well. Willow also. Yeah.

A 4. I got this movie on DVD for Christmas from my great great great great great grandpa when I was 72. And I so I got this movie with Wild Wild West. Oh. Oh, Jesus.

And I was so mad about getting Wild Wild West. I didn't watch The Mummy except for, like, once on DVD. And then I wanna say I saw a piece I've seen pieces of it on cable and TV. It's inevitable. Sure.

And I this was the first time I had sat and really watched it in a long time, and I'd always really liked it. I still really like it. It's 3 and a half pristine white cats for me. The script is so fucking good. The performances are so good.

I almost wanna bump it up slightly already because of what Jess said and a little bit what Burris just said. There's some stuff that feels almost too throwbacky or too ninetiesy, and I'm a little too detail oriented where it's like, how does that 6 shooter have 14 bullets in it or whatever it is? Oh, yeah. Dumb shit like that. And the CG, I really again, you gotta fucking take swings.

This movie is great. It's super fucking fun. The score does a lot for it too, and it's got a lot of good shit going. But the CG at times where it's like, why are you showing this off? Why aren't you doing a little bit more in the shadows?

Like, why why aren't you kind of Freddy Krueger ing this? Can confirm from watching special features, they thought these looked great. I'm sure of it. This was the time frame. And compared to a lot in 1999 CG, it's not bad.

Yeah. It looked good for the for the time. I don't disagree, but also what year was Galaxy Quest? What did we say? 22,000?

Something like that. Sure. The the library sequence is so good, and it's practical. Yeah. The stunts are so fantastic Yeah.

And they're practical. Yeah. The movie then decides to lean really hard on CG. I feel like it's to its detriment, and it's hard to say, like, if it had a bigger budget or, honestly, if it had a smaller budget where it's like necessity is the mother of invention. If they didn't have as much money to go, we can spend a $125 on every effect shot.

Yeah. Maybe it would have worked in its favor. Yeah. But fuck. I'm tempted to already give it 4, but I'm gonna stick it 3 and a half pristine white cats.

I wanna hear everything before I move. Totally. What year was Galaxy Quest confirmed? 1999. Okay.

I thought so. I I just like, that movie is such a beautiful blend of CG and practical. Thing. I was just gonna go. Heads up, everybody.

I don't disagree. I and I I agree that sometimes the effects in this, aren't great. I'm pretty sure I saw this movie at the Redmond Town Center. I I on Skyline 1. I'm pretty sure I saw the Redmond Town Center.

Probably had to get a ride from my parents, but I was probably only there to, like, flirt with girls or whatever I was there to do. Yeah. But I owned this movie, and this became dropping me off. I had the VHS. I also remember this being one of the first DVDs I ever purchased myself.

Mhmm. Oh. And it was a regular rotation for me. I mean, I watched it regularly. I was Rick O'Connell for Halloween in 9th grade.

Nice. Nobody knew who I was. I felt like this was something the ascot and everything? Oh, I I was committed. I had the dual holster.

Nice. Borrowed from my friend's dad who was a cop. I went hard into it, and I even, like, put on, like, grizzled, you know, for my face because I They didn't know who you were or they didn't know the character? Well, I'd say Rick O'Connor only be like, who? I'd be like, have you seen The Mummy?

Brendan Fraser and The Mummy? And they'd be like, oh, okay. But I felt like this was kind of like a little secret for me. I mean, we all know Indiana Jones was like my still one of my favorites. I did a project on Harrison Ford in fucking junior high.

Oh, wow. This was, like, directly in that wheelhouse, and it just the nostalgia pull for this movie is still strong for me, and I watch it regularly. I own it on Blu ray. I own the trilogy. So, you know, if you ever wanna watch, Dragon Emperor.

Dragon Emperor, don't. So anyway I think I saw that alone in theaters. I would've given it Oh, wow. I would've given it a 5 back then. Oh, yeah.

That Yeah? That movie came out when we were Cornish. The 2,007. Right? Watch it regularly.

I would've given it a 5 back then. I haven't seen it maybe a couple years. We did, like, a viewing maybe, like, 2 years ago and went to the movie theater at Universal Studios, which a lot of this movie is shot at Universal Studios. Cool. Yeah.

The cinema experience with Jess was just phenomenal. The people there were were cheering. Everyone was there just to love and appreciate this movie. I'm I'm gonna stick at my rating despite I do have notes. Mhmm.

I feel in terms of, like, what the movie is set up to do, what it's trying to do, what the the performances capture, what the script accomplishes, and what even some of the effects kinda encapsulate the tone of this movie, where even from the beginning, you get this, like, ridiculous CG moon that's, like Yeah. Almost purposely fake. And it kind of, like, sets you up for the rest of the movie in a way that you're like, okay. Well, this world is other. It feels different.

And, like, yes. I can go on and on about the effects. But, anyway, I'm gonna give it 5 out of 5 chair throws. You're still at a 5, Burris, Fenny, you're still at a 5. 5 out of 5 chair throws.

Chair throws. That is a really I mean, it's pretty impressive. It's cool. And I assume you're gonna elaborate the way you're smiling. The chair throw.

I I don't know if we're gonna talk about how much more we're gonna talk about this later, but if we are gonna talk about it more later, like, I'm excited to hear. Yeah. I don't know if you heard him, but it it's the chair throw. The chair throw? The chair throw.

The marathon? The chair throw. The marathon. The chair throw. The chair throw.

The marathon. Alright. So So no. Okay. I wanna get this out of my system before we talk about the movie.

I'm not gonna cut myself off like I do with the theme. This is my 3rd favorite Indiana Jones movie, my second favorite National Treasure, my second favorite Dungeons and Dragons. Yeah. Clear yeah. Because the one with Jeremy Irons is so bad.

The opening of Temple of Doom is invincible. It's so fucking good. The But it's so good. Maybe next time, Lao Hsieh. Yeah.

So good. I I agree. Like, there is a tonal thing, a call to adventure, a thing where the character is so relatable. It's one of those things where it's like, it this isn't, like, an elite company. Yeah.

And I can only rate it versus movies that are similar. And it's really hard to find good adventure movies. And real hard. I feel like people have tried to replicate this movie Sure. And it never succeeded.

It crosses between millennials and Gen z, and that's hard. And it's also the tone of this movie. And I think we should start the movie, but the Stop the movie. Snack the RWBY. And now, our feature presentation.

Is a really hard thin balance beam. Because it is like joke a minute. There's, like, a physical comedy bit a minute. There's funny things throughout this movie, and then it still has to hold stakes and tension and keep you enthralled and keep you scared. Once the second act gets moving, there's some sort of action or suspense or horror type scene every fucking, like, 90 seconds.

It's just absolutely relaxing. Curious because Jess broke this down for me, and I I think I agree with her. Jess said this is a 5 act movie with a prologue. I think that's right. Okay.

It breaks breaks down. I'd mentioned the strength of the scripts and, birthday buddy Kevin Jahre Jahre. I'm so sorry. Alrighty. Like, also, August 6th, baby.

That the script is so damn good in it's like if you've seen some of these movies from the thirties or forties and the way those acts break down, this movie breaks down so similarly to the stealth that it wants to emulate and so successfully. Yeah. So the the the opening is the prologue. Right. And In Thebes we get a mixture of CG and miniatures.

Yeah. That opening With extras walking and kinda superimposed in there. Or And we meet the priest Imhotep, who is the high priest to Seti. Seti the third, which is the, second, first Seti the second? Seti Seti the second.

Who knows? The richest of his line. Why did I mention it? Anak Sunamun Is his lady. Did anybody notice Anak Sunamun.

We could correlate that to Anak Sunamun, what else she's been in? Oh, no. What else you've been in? Really? You don't recognize?

I I totally recognize hers. I'm I'm Her? Her? Her? Her?

Her? Her? Her? Her? That's the second Marta from the long standing Marta from Arrested Development.

Oh, you're right. I just put that together. Her. Holy shit. I didn't even realize that.

I might do this to you a second time. Probably not. I think you'll get the second one, but we'll see. Her Egg? Because they Motep and And Anox and a moon get it on.

And Seti catches them. And they kill that guy. He will tip. My priest? But and they kill him Papyrus.

Using shadows. Like, you you watch it Through the shadows. It's great. There's a lot of shadows in the night. That is a ongoing theme Yeah.

Of some story points being told through the shadows rather than actually just seeing it. Why not do that? Which is CG Mummy. And, like, I will say the I have not seen The Mummy the Boris Karloff mummy. Okay.

But I imagine, like, at that time, shadows and were probably very prevalent. And so I think this movie is you know? And listening watching the special feature, Stephen Sommer said that's the only movie he was he hadn't seen any of, like, the apparently, it was a bunch of German mummy movies. Okay. And then there's a 59, one with Okay.

Christopher Lee. Because But it Adam Costello meets the mummy. Oh, yeah. But, anyway, he I've seen the car lot. He was going shadow wise, like, really wanting to emulate that.

And I think they succeed, but they catch Imhotep, and they take him away to the city of Hamanatra. Hamanatha. Which is the city where they do all the mummification. And it's, yeah, it's mummy time for old adultering or whatever. Which Imhotep They should just kill them.

Curse. They should just kill them. Right? Well Yeah. Maybe don't curse him.

He takes Noxunno Sunamun's body to the land of the dead Oh, right. To To to resurrect her. Yeah. And then they catch him. And then they catch him right as, like, the soul enters her body.

And then they're like, guards, we're here. And, like, they just appeared out, like, you didn't see them standing right off? It's almost it's almost Yeah. Comic book. Oh, it's great.

Like the lair. It's very serial. Yeah. Oh, completely. The this is the phantom being execute for me, the phantom being executed at the absolute highest degree.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is my Willow, where I think, Ben, you walked away with a 3a half for Willow. Yeah.

I think so. This is like my Willow where it's an just enough world building, just enough fantastical, just enough magical where it's just like, fuck yeah. This is cool. Yeah. I like this.

And the verse, like you were saying, that original just like, here's Anak Sunamun who killed the Anak Sunamun. That first CG effect is like, okay. Like, when she comes out of the river Oh, the water CG bad. That was not that bad for me. CG is objectively bad, while the mummy CG is not as objectively bad.

Interesting. I think the world post t 2 It's like The It's very fucking distracting. The mummy, CG is only the only part about it that is bad are the is the face. I feel like the the sinews and, like, the body itself, especially in the early ages when it's supposed to just like a skeletal, it doesn't Yeah. That doesn't distract me as much as the eyes and the mouth do.

When it's like Matt, a lot of actual Arnold Vosloo. When he was actually doing motion capture for those moments. You can tell it's all him, which is really cool, especially he's, like, very talented. He plays this guy named Pick in hard target, and he has a tendency to play, like, kind of cold calculating psychos or whatever. He's very fucking good at it.

He's very good in this movie. Yeah. He is. I forget how much we see his actual I was like, he doesn't show up till the last, like, 20 minutes. Right?

And it's like, no, dummy. He's in most of the fucking movie. The effects for this movie, it vary for me depending because, the lighting has so much to do with it. Yes. Yeah.

Sometimes they light that corpse. We we'll get to later. You know, in a way, it's just like, oh, it looks it looks great. Yeah. And it's callback to, you know, Jurassic Park, how they use the rain.

The pinnacle. Right? Yeah. Yep. Yeah.

The the rain was the main thing that made the t rex believable. Everything had that sheen to it at the time. You know? It was like Yeah. Darken it.

Yeah. Environment. CG, world that we're coming into and, like, oh, well, just make it raining. It's raining. Yeah.

Well, this isn't a knock against Adrian Biddle, the DP, because he's incredible art. Shoots the shit out of this movie. Yeah. Aliens is one of my favorite favorite photograph movies of all time. This isn't necessarily trying to say Dean Cundey is better than anybody, but this is probably Spielberg versus anybody else in terms of, like, like, how to light this, how to create the depth, etcetera, with, like, Jurassic Park v Yeah.

This movie specifically. Yeah. And the use of CG is just so it's just so so prevalent. Yeah. I don't disagree.

And and it's it's fine. I wanna get to, like, this is where we now move from, like, these models and a lot of the CG stuff and mummification and shit to adventure where we have Brendan Fraser holding the fucking line with the French foreign legion for whatever reason. Yeah. And the During the great great war? What's the great war?

I think It's past that point. This is, like, some sort of weird Between 12. I mean, it's the French foreign legion. Yeah. Some sort of weird, like, off war.

The narration just real quick at the beginning is I forget the actor's name, but the, Odette. Fair. Yeah. The guy the guy who run which is The Magi guy. The Magi who are protecting.

And it's like, we have now we swear to protect that so that We're protecting the This beast can never come back. Grail. Yeah. And he goes, and screams over Anubis' face. And it says the mummy.

And then the way that they fast forward in time is you see the decomposition of this of this statue. Mhmm. And then we cut to this battle. They're they're, like, I don't know, 50 guys who are going off who are standing against a bunch of, like, I don't know, a 1000 people on horses. Yeah.

And the French general is, like, yelling orders and then just, like, drops his sword and fucks off. And I love that because Rick goes, where's where's he think he's going? I think you just got promoted. Yeah. He's now the commanding officer, apparently.

And we meet Rick O'Connell, and we kinda see his true colors here. It's fucking Benny's true colors who is A medium. Beautiful. A great foil for Rick the entire movie. Mhmm.

You know exactly where these two characters stand. Yeah. Immediately. It's such a beautiful writing device that it's like, by the way, Benny is an opportunist and a coward. Yeah.

Just so you know. And Rick Rick is brave and will stand up. Don't you close that door. Don't you close that door. It's so great.

Time and time again, Benny will never do anything other than what Benny does. Although Rick preservation. Comes to that Anubis statue, and he's surrounded. And the stunts in this moment with Brendan jumping around, grabbing his guns That's right. They're fucking great.

Rolling in the sand, and this is the first, like, supernatural moment where the horses freak out and they get the fuck out. He's clearly very, very capable. Like, that's the thing that's great about this movie is this guy is very, very capable as a combatant, a fighter, a soldier, and as, like, a naturist Mhmm. To a degree. Like, he understands, you know, the animals and terrain and the, you know Mhmm.

Things that are out in the world. Like, he's he's a capable, instinctive guy With a great know in this moment that anything at all is, like, necessarily missing in any way or, like, that he would need help in any way. He just seems like a completely fucking total badass. And he's got great hair. Yeah.

And then we go to the scene of Evie in the library. Well, so we fast forward. Right? Like, I think, a couple 3 years later? More in time.

More in time. After we've seen the standing up with him, at the statue, he runs statue's like he pulls his gun. He's like, this is the final stand. Like, I'm gonna die here. And then the they all ride up, and they aim their guns, and then they look up, and they see that it's a statue of Anubis, and then they all just run away.

And then Rick is, like, wandering in the desert, and the Ajai are watching from the cliffs. And, like, the desert will kill him. Clearly, as you were saying, he's very skilled. Like, he clearly survives the desert. Face come out of the sand also.

Do you have that screamers movie where the things run through the sand, and then the the face comes like for the first time and The the fucking Majai though, it's like, lord. Okay. Okay. Movie logic. Movie's gotta happen.

But if these guys were really trying to protect this thing, they would have fucking wasted that guy Told everybody. In the fucking 5 different opportunities they had. Does the Magi feel very borrowed from last crusade? Oh, yeah. Same with The Last Crusade.

If you're not seeking the grail, then my apologies. Your father is kept in the castle. Right? Like, there's It's like a Zelda There's a level Level break. Yeah.

But there's like a level of morality that these warriors overlooking this thing hold. Yeah. And it's ultimately what bonds Rick and the leader of the magi together is that they're they're both badass. They're both sexy, and they're both in this to fucking, like, protect, I guess, everybody. So, yes, the movie has to happen.

We're not gonna kill Rick. Right. But I hear what you're saying. I just love also the the transition, like, the way they cut through where it's like, why don't they just fucking kill these guys? It's like, well, by the way, this is a PG 13 adventure borderline horror movie.

We're gonna have this lady stand straight up on a ladder and destroy a library just in case you didn't know a movie you were getting into, Paul. Like Yeah. Calm down. Well, the and I think that the this moment is so great. Thank you, by the way, Benny.

Like, we meet Evie. I almost think this movie is dual protagonist. Oh, yeah. Because Evie, obviously, we all love Rachel Weisz, but she Yeah. We all we we immediately introduce that she is very capable and very smart, but also, like, has her flaws.

I have shared on this program that my original crushes when I was, like, young young were Sally Field and Karen Allen. This was, like, my how old was I? 52? You said you were 70 and you said you were, like, 60 something. But it was, like, this was a thing for me, and I really there's a part of me that is, like, a little bit, like, oh, good job, me, as people have been talking about this.

I'm very I've always been very attracted to these types of characters. Like, really capable like, Rachel Weisz is a physically absolutely gorgeous human being. Holy shit. But, also, like, the character and the way she portrays the character and the capability of the character and the command and the confidence is just like, oh. I I went back a few years watching this movie in terms of the, like, oh, wow.

I really not only I liked this movie for a million reasons, but also why I was so, like, Yeah. So we're in we're in the Cairo library, and Eevee has knocked down I love I love that how they're, like the way that the stacks are sort of, like, lined up doesn't in a circle, doesn't quite make sense as in terms of, like, logic, but domino the domino's effect is so it's it's so great. It's it's I also just, to go to the latter moment in particular, they set up a character so well of becoming this, like, quirky and smart individual with, you know, just that's, I guess, got a little bit of clumsiness, you know, or, like, things just happen. Yeah. With the, like, up the ladder, it just they set it up so well.

It's like it's like such a great comedic routine of, like, I'm putting the books away. This one's not supposed to be here. It's supposed to be directly behind me and then breach because I can't reach. Let me do the ladder. Yeah.

Now I'm stuck mid air. The Lotzy happens and everything just comes down. It's just it's it's so cool. Shot is great. Yeah.

The it all, like, really makes sense. And also the piece of exposition after where the Eric Avari character, the librarian head librarian is like, why do I keep you around? And she has an opportunity to say, I am a fucking expert in pretty much everything. Yeah. Necessary.

Yeah. And it's done so deftly. I really appreciate that whole scene. So the first 15 minutes ish of this movie, I don't necessarily appreciate the CG and matting and stuff at the beginning of the movie and what's See, the matting for me works. I understand why it's I get the the yeah.

Especially because what it's trying to do. Especially because we're talking about it's based on a movie from, like, the thirties. Yeah. It's trying to get that feel and that otherworldly I get it. It's the thing for me of, like, the thirties that works for me is the physical comedy piece, the piece in the library, and then just a beautiful setup of, like, this very modern touch of writing of Yeah.

Here's so much of what you need to know. Like, the first several minutes of this movie are are pretty much fucking iron clad. They're it's a very good first few several minutes of the movie. We we learned that Evie's biggest thing is that she was denied by the the summon scholars. The because she was a little Evie.

In a little bit. But just to to to yes and you on the, the perfect setup for her to to tell who she is. Yeah. And then the head librarian responding with, no. It's because your parents were the were the biggest donors.

Yes. They were with that one phrase, that also sets up her brother, Jonathan, who we have not met yet. Yeah. Right. And why has the He's a fuck around.

He has the nothing because their parents, assuming they were of money And But she always had to work harder. She had to prove herself. She's, like, she's the real fucking deal, and her brother's just, like, kind of a drunk fucking idiot that gets off on their trust or whatever. Well, and so Exactly. The moment that she he goes clean up this, and then she hears something in, like, the museum part of the library, and it gets a little horror y for a second.

And then Yeah. We have the joke of Abdul Mohammed Bob, and then Jonathan pops out. We meet Jonathan, who is a really good foil for Evie at the same point as Benny as a foil for Rick. Yeah. But Jonathan is drunk, and he's hanging out with a skeleton.

And this is the it's just so great. His performance in this is also great. Yeah. I really like John Hannah in this movie. Yeah.

He she says, like, I can't be messing around because there's something scholars I forget which the scholars denied me a gift. I'm sorry, old mom. We get this little tender like, they moms. Yeah. You love your mom.

And we see this tender, like, brother sister relationship. But Jonathan said, like, he's been trying to find something his whole life. Please tell me I found something. I think you found something, and it's that it's the key box. Through stealing and Yeah.

Being who we are. Who we find out through. Yeah. He found it in a dig. Pretty quick.

We found it we found it in a dig out in Thebes. Yeah. The original city where Seti the second was. They find a map hidden inside of it, and they bring it to the head librarian. And, you know, they're saying, like, maybe this is supposed to be this lost city of Hamanatra.

Yeah. It's city of the dead. Which he claims is a city that In Papyrus. Doesn't exist. Again, like James Cameron.

You just took Papyrus. They made it for the they they made the Put it on a matoree. And that was it. And you thought that was fine. Tribal Papyrus.

Characteristic? Papyrus. It's alright. He burns half the map. Yeah.

He's trying to protect. Oh. Oh, clumsy. I really like as I know I remember that this guy is like a double agent kind of or whatever. I really like the performance.

I like the execution. I like that he just comes off as another, like, misogynist, like like, naysayer, like Yeah. Kind of, like, jerk or whatever. But it's like, I like the steps we go through with that character of what exactly his device is and goals are. It's fun.

Yeah. And then we are we're still in the first act, and we go to the prison now. We meet Rick in jail who's been gone, I guess, for I didn't hit me 3 years. Yeah. His hair's pretty long.

He's like, I thought you found this in a, dig in Thebes. You gotta put this out of the hills. Picked his pocket, actually. So if we could Dig in the annals of Brendan Fraser, full George of the jungle right here. They they confront him, and they they say, like, no.

You wanna find the lost city of Hamanatra. I've been there. I was he's confirmed. I love this line too. Do you swear?

Every damn day. Oh, it's so good. This kind where he steals a kiss. Yeah. Where it's like this guy's a scoundrel.

Yeah. The way they kinda set him up, like, right in the beginning. Yeah. And he's just getting relentlessly beaten. Yeah.

Like, these guys are just beating the shit out of him. Yeah. And Rachel Weisz, are you some kind of flimflam man? Rachel Weisz asks him that. Yeah.

And I was like, oh, shit. Confirmation that this is a thing. Flimflam is a thing. They're gonna hang him because apparently, he had a very good time. I love that line of delivery.

Yeah. It's really good. They're gonna hang him, and she's sitting in, like, the box seats. Yeah. Yeah.

It's like Roman time still in 19 twenties Egypt. And she's trying to Just haggling? Haggle with the word life. For his life because he has the map to Hamanatra in his head. Yes.

And so they know and he's been there. So they need a guide. He's the one guy who can take you there as far as anybody knows. Again, coming back to her core character, why she's on this, is, like, she knows they said the whatever scholars she didn't have enough field experience. So she knows that this thing is going to put her on the map.

Yeah. And knows that the legend is big enough in Egypt that she tells the warden, let this guy go. I will make you rich beyond your wildest dreams. He buys it, and they let him go. And they all get on the boat, and they meet the Americans, like this trio of guys.

What a coincidence. Right? What a coincidence. No one has found, Hamanatra, and it's rumored. And now these 2, exact times.

Exactly. Come across at the same time, Rick. And with 2 random American dudes and one guy, I'm gonna recommend that you vote for Leslie Knope for city council because this is Pistol Pete DeSilio. Yeah. That was the other one I wanted to hit you with.

I knew that. Pistol Pete from Parks and Rec. He also shows up in this movie. He also shows up in, oh, something else. But yeah.

That we did? No. Not really good. Anyway. Yeah.

So they is this relevant. Also, Rick, when he shows up, he's all, like, clean-cut with that haircut, and she's, like, going off about Look. Oh, my lord. I mean She's going off about, like, he's just, like sexy cast in this movie. The this movie fucks.

What a sexy fucking cast. You've heard that this movie is like the awakening for bisexuals. Right? I think it's been mentioned on this program. I remember Mike Bowers mentioned it, I think.

1 one or more people. I feel like Shannen Corbe did as well. Oh, yeah. I'm a straight dude Boring. Who I know.

Right? But it's like I'm sitting next to 2 very handsome gentlemen. It's like I'm yeah. Burris, come on. Look at me.

Look at me. It's you. Are you fully one of them? Are you fully erect or are you still a soft 3a half? That's as that's as come on.

That's as hard as Hard Car 3 and a half. Sorry. But it's one of those things. It's like you watch this movie and any reasonable human being is like holy shit. All the everybody in this movie.

Yeah. Just everybody has attraction quality in this film. Yes. It's Except for maybe Benny who we learned is leading other Americans. No.

You're wrong. No. See, because he's got Lot of performance. He's got, like, some eye shadow on in there. He's a he's, like, slimy.

And that's the person that's the person you go to to piss off your parents. That is a thing. And, like, that that's, like, that's where he's, like, attracted me about this is What brings you back to Hamanachir O'Connell? You never believed in the magic. She saved my life.

You always thought more with your balls than your brains. I I like Benny. Benny is a good mood character. Great Yeah. No.

He is. Soil. He's a great and he does a great performance. I His vocal quality is stuck with me since I saw it. What an actor.

Just like I just I don't Yeah. His voice is just so original. Rick and Evie talk about, like, the city. Benny, again, he was randomly a stowaway on this boat with all these people or, like, randomly or not a stowaway, but guiding the Americans. The randomness of it.

It's just like, oh, how convenient. Like, it ain't like, oh, there's a good amount of movie logic shit. Party are gonna are now opting for home. When they make a the Americans met with O'Connell who will get there first. We've got we've got a guy who's been there before.

Wildly, this breaks this breaks down as 3 or 5 acts, I think, which, like, again, is a strength to the script. Whereas, like, I think you can break this down from multiple different points. It's just like clockwork. It's just like really I think the west. The starting to the, like, journey to finding the thing is the second act for me.

Yeah. Cross Egypt is the is clearly the second act. Yeah. Especially in a three act structure to me. But, like, where it's like, Campbell's v horses v, like, we're we're gonna wait for Oh, yeah.

So, anyway, the Magi time. The Magi attack the boat. Well, I I I have more before this. Rick goes back to his quarters and back to, like, the shared area. He's taken out his ammo leather roll like, whatever.

Yeah. I don't know what to tell you. Yeah. Evey's down there, and then she goes, why did you kiss me? Yeah.

And he's like, seemed like a good idea at the time. Rolls it out. Thought I was gonna die. Yeah. And yeah.

He was like, I'm gonna die, like, seemed like the the right thing to do. Assault was a risk, but I went with it. And the fact that that was the reason was offensive. Yeah. And, like, like, this is the beginning.

Starting with the kiss in the cage, Rick has got high res. The like, the res is high. No cap. It is. Yeah.

And now his look is inflamed. His look is it's got drip. Dude, when he shows up with the fucking ascot and shit on the boat, just looking like a $100 as I mentioned when he was walking up, looking like John O'Mac coming in for a audio podcast for Minority Report just looking good. And that that action sequence on the boat, despite how many bullets anybody has or whatever the fuck, it's fun. And it's it's The stunts are good.

So we she goes back to her quarters, and she's, like, trying to read, but she she's, like, oh, it wasn't a very good kiss. It wasn't it was that good of a kiss anyway. I like that she thinks about it. It's fun. Chemistry, and it's, like, this fun romance.

And I think, like, Jess was right when she was saying, like, they didn't really advertise the romance of this movie, but it's a big part of the movie. Yeah. It's huge. Like, it's the driving it's the grounding force of the movie is the bromance. And that moment going into her going into her own room and, like, it wasn't that much of a kiss anyways.

Just reminded me very much of Indiana Jones. Raiders. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely.

We if he was injured and he was just like, kiss me here. Oh, god. I love that incident Raiders. Uh-huh. But it's okay to take something that's successful and say, like, we're gonna do something the same but different.

Okay. It's also a bone. They're, like, they barely hint at it. It just, like Yeah. This is, like, a same situation, but then that they don't do anything.

We don't do anything. We don't do anything. We don't do anything. We don't do anything. We don't do anything.

We don't do anything. We don't do anything. We don't do anything. We don't do anything. Is obviously, like, the Boris Karloff original.

A lot of Spielberg is in this this, especially in, like, the later scenes with the mummies fighting and stuff like that. And I think that, like, I was thinking of, like, directors who I think really love this movie. And, like, Edgar Wright, I think, is probably someone who looks at this movie. I mean, there's there's stuff in this that's in Shaun of the Dead. Like, I I think this movie just has a bigger impact than I think we necessarily thought at the time or at least I necessarily thought at the time.

I don't disagree with you as as everyone's been talking. This is one of those weird bridge gappers of millennials and Gen z where there's a level of respect and reverence for this movie that multiple generations have that don't necessarily always have a ton of crossover. Yeah. It's like no fucking way do I wanna watch. Revenge of is trash.

Woah. Hot take. Trash. Oh my gosh. It's nearly unwatchable.

He is every wrinkle I put And, like, this is one of those movies. And that's the thing is I was born in 1911. So I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. Mhmm. But it's it it it's really rare for a movie like The Mummy, like National Treasure.

See, National Treasure for me doesn't work. Okay. We're not gonna dig into this right now. Yeah. We can't.

I I We don't have enough time. Another podcast. Yeah. No. I tried, though.

I tried. Because I was like, oh, yeah. People say I should like this because we need Jones. And I tried, and I was like, Oh, I feel like there's a a a paprika of Indiana Jones, but it's, like, a little more Sherlock Holmes, a little a little more other things. To me, it just felt like Dan Brown.

Wow. It's so much better than Da Vinci Code. Or I mean, I don't really like Da Vinci Code, but I No. We're we can't get too in the weeds here. It just doesn't We're gonna get too in the weeds.

It doesn't really work for me. We're gonna go into the second act now. But, anyway, they get off the boat, and they're now They get attacked on the boat. They get attacked on the boat by the majai. Yeah.

800 Bullets and a 6 shooter. Good to go. The really funny bits of, like, he's against the wall. The bullets are exploding on the wall, and then she just pulls him a little bit to the left, and one goes right by his head. And just the look that he's like, thank you.

And, like, what a good team. The but the comedy the nonverbal physical comedy lotus in this art. Is actually the the, like, I hate that I I didn't Sensory. Do that for myself. Yeah.

He was there's always, like, thank you, but, he's beating himself up. That should I shouldn't have needed help. Yeah. There's just so many and, like, the warden, like, the boat's now on fire and everyone's jumping ship. And, Ocado.

Ocado. What do we do? Stay here. I'll go get help. And then Rick jumps off and the warden, like, sits there for a second on the burning boat and then he has a moment, like, like, realizes he got got and jumps off the boat.

It's just, like, little things like that and they don't feel quippy or forced, you know, like, like the Roadhouse where it was, like, writing quips in here for no reason. Oh, the the redo. They said this. Character driven and fun. Such lovely, like, side characters that The side characters are great.

Every single one. And they're not like, even the ones that are, like, are not really important. Yeah. We're gonna give them something, and we're gonna we're gonna make them full embodied. All I know about that one dude is that he wears glasses, and then he loses his eyes and his tongue, but it still makes me care about him.

Oh, I got I got I got something about that later. We'll we'll get to it. We have we don't have the time. This is one of this is one of the great people say cinema, people say films, people say whatever. This is a great movie.

There's not a boring moment in this movie. Even, like, as we transition to everybody on horses and camels, 2nd house Raising the hominopter. Cuts that you don't know what happened. Where they we see hominoptrat at the at first, that effect is a little rough for me. Sure.

And then there's it transitions by a couple shots, and then it gets smoother. It's a weird thing, this, like, spell this magical spell this movie does of being, like, oh, this isn't working for you. Well, we'll bring you back. Like, it brings me back quick. Yeah.

I've never really thought of that where wow. Also, really great uses of, like, overlays of warm red tones. Mhmm. Especially them waiting for the sun to rise. And the sky.

The sky is red, but also, like, it happens in the beginning of the movie and the prologue Mhmm. And also in this moment of them when waiting for the sun to rise. They're, like, everyone is just in these reddish tones. Like, it's, like, there's this everything's very warm. Hey, O'Connell.

Nice camel. And it also it makes it feel old. It makes it feel like I'm watching an older movie. The the matted sky CG Sky stuff actually is very effective for me. In that moment, it feels at times like Lawrence of Arabia.

The way it's, like, shot and lit, it's really, really cool. Like, little David Lean A lean knight. Kinda homage there to a degree. And I love that they're basically, like, shooting. That's like, there's no They're in Morocco.

No volumes in this movie. There's no there's no Exlocations. You know, and I it just In sets. Works. Like, if this movie were to say today, there'd be volumes.

Yeah. CG green screen. Does this fully work for anybody else where they're the horses and camels are racing and then Camels are worse. Have the moment where they look at each other? Like, where Yeah.

Like, where Evie's, like, besting him and he seems, like, really kinda, like, turned on and, like, really impressed and, like In the cool. Yeah. Like, I really dig that. It really sells that. And he throws Benny off yet another moving vehicle?

No. They're not. Goodbye. Fucking Batman. Yeah.

Fuck Benny. He's great. The actor's great. But No. Kevin O'Connor is fantastic.

He's so good. The they beat them to Hamanatra, and suddenly, we're at the race. They're looking for not the book of the dead, but they're looking for a book, a gold book. That's the The book of Amun Ra. The book of Amun Ra that they think is buried at the base of the statue of Amun Ra.

Of Amun Ra that they think is buried at the base of the statue Yeah. Of Amun Ra. The let there be light thing is cool too. Oh, yeah. Thing.

When they when they just show it, and we get our first horror moments. We also right before that, O'Connell gives her this, like Oh, yeah. Her The tools that you stole. The I love that. I stole these for you.

It's like, I got I got these And he's all nervous. My my mother's like, he's giving her flowers. I relate so hard to him at this moment where I'm like, hey. I I used to be a piece of shit. I kinda still am.

And it's thoughtful too because they're like Yeah. She loves this is something that she The way he does it, he's all, like, nervous and awkward. Right. And then she's like, thank you. And he turns around and the warden's right there and he goes, what are you looking at?

It's so good. He's, like, embarrassed. Yeah. It's so great. And then diagonal swipe.

Oh, love the swipe. Transition swipe. It is. Then we're then we're on track. Like that.

And then they're going down and he goes, Jonathan goes, what's that smell? And the warden's coming right down. He's like, oh, never mind. Yeah. The I actually really like this gun showdown, like, this proto office, like, everybody bringing the guns up and down where They all beat meet at the base of Anubis.

Yeah. The American team and the O'Connell team Yeah. All kinda converge. Hey. Those are my tools.

Think so. They're racing for who's gonna find the treasure in this tomb. That's the main goal outside of the book of Amun Ra Yeah. Is apparently there is crazy treasure in Seti. Book of Amun Ra is made of pure gold Pure gold leaf.

But, yeah, that face off is great. It's fun. This is my statue, pal. I don't see your name written on it. Yeah.

And and then Eevee is the one who realizes, oh, there's a basement to this. We can come out from underneath it. Levels. Yeah. It's like, don't worry.

We can live to fight another day. Let's outsmart them. Come on. This is not the right spot. They wouldn't have Another beautiful opportunity, and it's like a softball over the middle hit out of the park where it's like O'Connell and Evie understand each other.

There's a level of each of them bringing each other up, like, in almost any opportunity. And they communicate so clearly. It's just it's written and executed so well. Like Oh, yeah. Holy lord.

But the scarabs So this is where we go he said Yeah. It's like Blue blue. Sound? What was that sound? I think it was bugs.

Bugs. I hate bugs. Yeah. But I hate bugs. Notices those are bugs.

Yeah. Again, and a capable nature mentioned this a couple times of, like, I hope there aren't any bugs where we're going. I hate bugs. It's great. And he's also but he goes off in his own, like, where did our stinky little friend get to?

And this is our first, like, horror moments where we see him and we immediately know, like, oh, this guy's fucked. This guy has gone off his own. He's being greedy. He's breaking the moral code. Mhmm.

Revealed the magic scarabs that are encased in this blue gold who can eat through your flesh. The scarab itself, that effect is great. And the way it kinda, like, cracks out of the blue gold That just affects is bad. The way it goes into the boot is great. But then the way it's in the skin, Ben, is you're mimicking the, oh my god.

Because they were like, they were like, they were like, they were like, they were like, they were like, they were like, we don't really know what it's gonna do. So just generally slap at your chest. Right. And so it's like, there's a level of charm to it to me, I guess, the way you're putting it. Watching the special features though is like 30 minutes of it were just them talking about how this technology proud of this technology they were.

And I was like, okay, guys. Like, there's a lot to talk about in this movie. The pride in your CG does not age well. Yeah. And not he doesn't die by the bug though, but it's crawling around his fucking brain or whatever.

Oh, he's runs into a wall. Full speed and crushes his skull into a into a stone wall. Very effective. And at the same time, the American team, they were like, oh, we found this treasure. We're gonna open this thing.

And like, let's let the diggers open it. A bunch of red shirts. Which is exactly what, like, white imperialist Oh, yeah. Buccoids would do. And this is very, like like, this movie to I mean, it doesn't really but, like, it shows us that Egypt has been colonized by these British.

Yes. But, yeah, they let these and, like, the, Egypt ologist is, like, umcha. Ibsha. What what I'm saying, they Yeah. Yeah.

Egyptian and Hugh, were you just doing Ewok? Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.

Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. But they they they just get fucking sprayed with this sand acid, salt acid.

Yeah. Salt acid. And get melted. Melted. And so That effect is really good.

Yeah. That holds up. Yeah? Mhmm. But the the way they edit between these two moments happening simultaneously is so strong, and we're finally getting, like, horror moments.

God, the movie is stronger than dangerous place. Yeah. Yeah. And now we've got 3 people who have died suddenly, and they're still gonna stick around. They're gonna do it more.

But, like, that's the thing is only we as the viewers know the scarab is the thing that scrambled dude's brain and made him bust his head out. The salt thing is a booby trap that they sent red shirts to pop this open. Like, there's nothing super nefarious outside of Yeah. Basic booby traps that it's like, we wanna see exactly what these do. And at times in Indiana Jones, it's like Yeah.

He is effective at skipping them, and we don't always see them being effective in this moment. Like, we have a pretty good idea of what these things do. I have a question for you, Paul. Do you consider yourself a basic booby trap? No.

I'm a pretty complicated booby trap. Okay. Am I a booby trap? Yes. Just what level of booby trap are you?

I still haven't sprung, if that tells you anything. Oh. It's one of these. Mustache? Know which one to cut.

One of the mustache hairs. Yeah. Feathering his Fiskars on his mustache. And speaking of mustaches And you make it hard because there's a lot of mustache hairs. Like one of them.

You cut one of them, and it'll spring up the shelf. They're all hanging out post death camp. With the Magi. And well, the Magi haven't showed up yet. Right?

So even Pretty soon. Yeah. Getting drunk, though. And I think this moment has a lot of charm because this is where we finally get to meet he talks about her family, and she talks about Yeah. They're back up top now.

Right? Yeah. They're back up camping. Jonathan's passed out. He's found the bottle of the broken bottle of whiskey.

Yeah. Sherry something. Sherry in the in the wardens. But he has good taste. He's got he might have been a stinky man, but he has got a good taste.

Great taste. And she's getting hammered. Oh, super. And then he's like, I understand he's trying to get to the core of, like, who she is. And she he's like, I understand your parents, and I understand your brother, but why are you here?

It's like he's actually interested. It's crazy. And she's like Yeah. I might not be an adventurer, mister Caudle, but I am a librarian. And that moment in the theater got the biggest cheer.

Hearing on TNT, Wednesdays, 9 PM. Mhmm. But then, yes, the majai show up and just fucking slaughter a bunch of red shirts. I gotta say too about Yvie. She says, I'm gonna kiss you, mister O'Connell.

Oh, yeah. And she is drunk. And we do this shit on this podcast where we're like, is this okay? Is that okay? Or whatever.

They have established when she's sober, etcetera. This is something she thinks about. I'm not trying to justify anything he's done. But the movie makes all of it make perfect sense. The performances, the things that are not said Yeah.

I'm never touched. With eyes. Yeah. And then she passes out, and he kisses the air, which is very cute. Mhmm.

But, yeah, then they, like, there's, like, a slaughter. Alone. She pass yeah. There's a slaughtering that happens between Oh, yeah. The majai It's coming to just murder a bunch of people.

And then and then I love the move of, like, a a a nice little somersault in the sand with a stick of dynamite So good. Against the fire to make it stop. We will shed no more blood, but you must leave by tomorrow. Just kill them. I was like, we're done killing them for now.

We've killed enough. We didn't kill Have you? Main characters. You killed some of ours too. You prevented all of this.

But we're gonna be friends soon even though you killed everybody I know. If you could once you fuck everything up, we will be on the same side, and then we will become all good friends. White people fucking shit up. Van Damme in time cop. If you could go back and kill Hitler, why wouldn't you?

I just don't listen to this bureaucrat, man. Just go do it. I saw Tyson beat Strings on TV. If we're gonna go to the Snyderland, if you think there's even 1% chance that they could destroy the world, we take that as an absolute threat. I mean, it's a it's a good it's it's a good phrase.

Right? Like Yeah. And so, like, if you think there's even a 1% chance that they're gonna bring this mummy back, you fucking you kill them. But movie logic. But the curse.

I I really like the device of the curse. Like, this is the legend of the curse is like a thing. Like, they would never do this. This was never done. Dominoes that have to fall for the curse to come Right.

They just happen to. Don't read from the Necronomicon. Don't read from the book. Next day Joo little juicy mummy. I like that term.

Jonathan is golfing and the the, like, falling of the casket in between them. It's great practical. I like it. Mhmm. I hear you boys found yourself a nice juicy mummy.

I love that line. I almost gave this juicy mummies. And they find the Americans find the Book of the dead. Well, they find the book of the dead, and they also find the, like, the vase the, like, little statue and stuff. Some dude just grabs the boards the box and a hidden side opens.

Yeah. And they've What do you think this is gonna get us on the stage? You know? Yeah. Yeah.

For me, this is the moment that I brought up with Jess that I was, like, almost not a 5 star movie for me because I don't know. Once they steal the book of the dead from the Egyptologist, I feel like she's smart enough to not read from it. But Jess pointed this out to me, which I really appreciated. And she said, like, at this point, Evie is going off of pure adrenaline. Yes.

Because she's not used to the field. Fuck. I'm reinforcing your vibe. Totally. Yeah.

I agree with that. And, also, we're not so enamored. She's not expecting it to be the book of truth. Also said previously, she doesn't believe in car curses or hocus pocus. Correct.

And so, like, to her, she's just she's trying to prove that she like, she's got this thing for the first time, and she's just reading it because she knows how to read it. She can actually read it. Yeah. Well, and she steals it or borrows it. Which she takes from which she's, like, taking from Rick or Jonathan, whoever you wanna say.

She's, like, you know Like the Egyptologist. But, like, the way that she's, like, she wouldn't be stealing, but Jonathan steals. So, like, she's got a little bit of our She borrows. I happen to have the key. What the needs.

And the little, like, blow across the desert, the little, like and Rick goes, that happens a lot around here. Yeah. It's so good. The and also the name of the curse, the Hyundai. Hyundai.

The movie does just enough world building. It hits, like, that perfect King Griffey Junior like sweet zone. Ben McFadden. Me. You did or did not have a problem with the effect of the missing eyes of the gentleman in?

I did. How do you feel about the effects here They're not great. For Pistol Pete, the eyes and tongue. They're also not great. Yeah?

But I do like what I do like about when they finally read from the book and the locusts show up, You shouldn't live in the book. And we've been told that the plagues Well, Sam Raynal will go. Read from the book. Yeah. And they all get kinda, like, thrown inside the tomb because of the locusts.

This is now where we've transferred into a haunted house movie. Okay. Yeah. Like, trap doors. There's just things at every corner.

And a lovely moment with the same dude covered in locusts now going, what have we done? What have we done? What a great performance Yes. Here in terms of just being, like, the prick elitist white male. Like, what do women know, etcetera.

Mhmm. They get their information at the moment. Remorse for him and whatever. The you know his fate is coming, and then it's not gonna be great. But the dude with the glasses trips, and Benny runs by him and smashes his glasses and sees him Yep.

And keeps running. Yep. And we're like, Benny, you continue to show your true colors. Yeah. Well Never failing.

The Magi have been involved again and everything. They've been floating in and out. So Benny gets cornered by a only 10% complete emo tip. He takes out the eyes, what you talked about and Yeah. This is the first encounter we get with Eevee.

And he's coming after her, and then he stops and goes And he sees something in her because he she is a vessel that he could put He can bring his lady back. Back from. And the moment of Brendan Fraser like, there you are, Evie. Where have you been? Play hide and go seek.

Woah. And sees the mummy there. Yeah. And the scream off. Boom.

The scream off is really good. Yeah. I I mummy So Then Brendan goes screams back and then shock and blast. Also, he takes the eyes from a person who's nearly blind. And so why can he see so well?

Well, basically, he just needs a bikini eyes, I guess. When they all escape and Benny LASIK is one of his superpowers. Got it. Internal LASIK. He uses all of these different languages and religions to try to find his way out, and then he uses Hebrew.

The star of David. Yeah. And he says, as we know, that, Jewish people were used as slaves during ancient Egyptian times. Language slaves. The language slaves, maybe I can have use for you.

And he pulls gold out of his butt. Chest cavity, you know, just like up his up the ribs and to the left. And It's this beautiful piece of writing Yeah. Of, like, oh, the language. You get it.

I can use you. And then this really debasing, like, really weird piece of writing where the mummy pulls gold out of nowhere assuming, like, oh, you're Hebrew? Here's this. Oh. Like, like, now you'll do what I want.

To to me And, like, Benny's Hungarian, and that's broken down in the captioning, by the way. Yeah. If you don't already know. But it's just one of those things where it's just like I like that Benny's kind of like, like, here's Buddha, here's all these different religious symbols, and then just the immediate, like, here's gold. But this is his true religion.

Yeah. Is is currency. I agree. Yeah. It's just a weird I mean, he is that the mummy is like, oh, you're you're Hebrew.

Here's this. Yeah. Human I try not to take it as that more of just like, this is we know what Benny's character is. So That's fair too. That's fair.

You mentioned this off cam Mike, but, well, no camera. There's no cameras here. That's why we're all I know. That's why we have That's why we're all we're all we're all 2 listeners. Donald Duck in it and not wearing pants.

Doctorates. Yeah. Donner Donald Duck in it. Phony doctors. Hello.

You mentioned this off mic saying that the mummy in this is Dracula in the desert. Yes. And I I did They just apply all of Dracula's powers to the desert instead of This is Renfield. Yes. Yes.

We get a Renfield in this moment. Completely. And he is his servant now because Benny is a coward and will follow the power. So it's weird that, like, that's part of, like, why I give this a 3a half and not a 4. See, to me But I almost feel like I should give it a 4 in its credit.

I'm very torn. I'm almost to me I said this earlier. To me, this has every aspect of monsters in it. Yeah. We have Classic Halloween monsters.

There's a little bit of bride of Frankenstein in this. Sure. There's so much in this that I feel like is purposefully all the movie monsters. Yeah. I like what you're saying.

And I also like that Jess mentioned Eevee's adrenaline, because this is where it becomes really apparent. Rick is like, we gotta get the fuck out of here. Yeah. What the fuck did we do? And Eevee is so Beginning of act enamored.

This is act 3 starting in Egypt now. Okay. Edie is so enamored with this where she's like, I'm not okay. Bye. Yeah.

That bit too is great. The, like, putting stuff in the suitcase, taking stuff out of the suitcase. And we see the beautiful pristine white cat. Yeah. Mhmm.

This is a very, like colored This is very, his his girl Friday, quick female male. Oh, that's good. Like, quippy back and forth bit. And, yeah, they're he wants to get the fuck out because why would you not? They're at all.

No. Again, this movie is so good at introducing characters and actors just absolutely fucking executing. Winston. Yes. Yes.

When he shows up and, like, steps in the fountain and the exposition he's giving. This is my background and my expertise. Yeah. I should have died in the great war. Ugh.

And he's great. Instead of, was it dying, wasting away out here of boredom and booze. And Yeah. Because he steals shots from people. And we see Winston.

He's a pilot, old man pilot. Yep. And, this is Egypt. Suddenly, the mummy has returned as prince Imhotep is what he's and he's wearing this, like, badass black mask. It's cool.

Sitting across from the dude that he stole his eyes and tongue from. Yeah. Because Benny's ingratiated. Yeah. Benny's voice is so recognizable.

Well, I think he knows it's Benny because there's the only way that he Benny was the one who guided them. That's the only way that he could get the introduction. I got Part of me wants to be like, oh, yeah. He knows and trusts Benny. Benny has identified himself in the whole deal.

But part of me wants to agree with the point you're making because, like, I'm not necessarily convinced to go up. So am I trying to bring y'all down? I what is this program? Cancel it. We should always be trying to make everything better.

Is that toxic positivity? What is happening? Paul, calm down. Paul's having a stroke. The blood water.

I really love the blood water at the, the And that happens when he Hotelsa is so cool. The rest of this guy's vitality? I don't know. Yeah. But he when he when Benny says, like, Prince Imhotep really appreciates you all, and he appreciates your eyes and your tongue.

But he needs to finish the business. Dude, Pistol Pete. He's gonna take his back, his dunking ability. He's gonna suck him dry, bro. He's gonna give him the twister.

He's gonna put some sand in his mouth, and he's gonna suck it dry. We also we also noticed then Jonathan's not completely useless because he's the one who's then saying every curse that's coming. And this is, Jonathan has a great arc in this. Mhmm. Because he comes from a place at the beginning where he seems like he can't find his place in this world.

Yeah. And by the end I mean, we'll get there, but he starts to realize he's way he's way more capable than he thought he was. Yeah. I think he starts to understand his value. Yeah.

Absolutely. This is where Arnold Vosloo Imhotep is after All of the Americans. And and Evie. And everybody. The only time Evie gets carried off physically isn't to save her necessarily.

It's to stop her from being the propeller for everything, which is great. Kat beats mummy. Oh, yeah. Where Rick knows I will use this as a as a weapon because these are the guardians of the Underworld. Of the underworld.

And they say Fuck. I am a sucker. I love goddamn it. I love that. And they say the creature will be afraid of them until they fully regenerate because he is still partially in the underworld.

The first time he sees a cat, he freaks the fuck out. And Oh, yeah. Because I don't wanna. Right? I do love the Yeah.

Mouth stuff. Some of the effects in this really work for me. The way that his mouth grows sometimes, the sand stuff sometimes really works for me. Okay. When he is going after Evie, and now right?

Evie's locked in the room. And Rick says, like, nobody comes in. Nobody goes out here. And he's like, yeah. Yeah.

We're fully moving here. Cowboy dude has to get fucking killed. He's like, I'm gonna get Shot of bourbon. Shot of bourbon. A drink of bourbon and, A bottle of bourbon.

Yeah. I'll get your damn bourbon. And then because he's the one who gets in a shadow, gets sucked dry, bro. Yes. He gets twister.

Our next our next shadow, moment of of vile of storytelling. Yeah. And that's after the Egyptologist got taken out in the dark alley that they all saw were Yeah. The Egyptologist wandering around in the dark alley for some fucking reason. Yeah.

But it's a great, like, monster movie moment of It is good. Yeah. And then she, the mummy sands his way through her keyhole. I am Vince. Vince Glortho, key master of Gozer.

No. No. Dude, yeah. No. No.

Pissed, and he wants his lady and his jars. Yeah. And when he kisses her and her his face turns Oh, that's that's a good effect. Yeah. And she wakes up.

I agree. And then Rick breaks in with the cat. Yeah. But that this is full on cat beats creep. Yeah.

Like, we found out cat wins earlier. This is, like, in a fact. We see this in practice. Oh, if you throw the acorn, it turns people to stone? Show me.

Oh, here it is. And the cat why don't they just have an armor of cat cats after this? Yeah. Again Give me all the cats. Movie.

Just strap a bunch of cats to their bodies, go back into the temple, and just and get everything done. Yeah. But now they go to the library. We don't want the book of the dead. We want the book of Amun Ra, and it is hidden under the statue of Horus.

And that is what she proves, which is disproving what the scholars had originally thought. Yeah. Uh-uh. The, what what was the what was the college or the the rah? None of us can remember.

I'm gonna say it is Pet. The mothers of scholars. Oh. It's the Marge Simpson night school for for because in the library little welfare That's when the horde of zombies Drones. This is where it gets to, like, a little carpenter.

Yeah. I I feel a lot of Stephen Summers' who he's homaging, who his influences are, like, through this movie. I'm not saying the movie is wholly unoriginal, but, like, there is a lot of influence of other folks through this in a way that feels inoffensive? I think every movie is an homage to another movie. In a lot of cases, especially when you're in the original anymore.

Filmmakers who are cinephiles, like, you can't not homage things. And I that's why I thought, like, when Jonathan's like, I'm gonna go get the call ready, and he runs around, and all the zombies are coming out going, emo and he just stops and goes, emoten. That's so good. That to me Shauna You're right. Shauna the dead.

Yeah. And they all stop. Emo Pretend to be one of them. Yeah. It works.

Eevee solves the problem. We learned that the head librarian is also a majai, and we're off again to race through the straights. And that oh, if you didn't know, the library exterior the exterior library, that's the clock tower from Back to the Future. That's the universal backlot courthouse. That doesn't super surprise me.

Yeah. That's the courthouse. I can tell it's like that feels like a backlot or a set. If you look at it again, if you look at it as still frame, it has columns, and it Yeah. And it's just being They're the same.

It's it's just being it's just just an overlay that, you would totally recognize if you just stick yeah. Just look at it. I like this car stunt with a bunch of the extras, like drones jumping all over the car and Rick and folks, like, punching them off and whatnot. This is a beautiful example of how great the stunts can be in this movie at times when it not just Brendan Fraser or but just, like, folks kind of, like, giving their all. Yeah.

The stunt cast in general is strong. And this is where Imhotep takes Eevee because Eevee gives herself over. Well, they Right? Basically cornered. And Yeah.

He says, like, come with me, and I'll spare your friends. Yeah. And she says, okay. I'll go. Like, she makes the she believes in Rick, which is so beautiful.

Yeah. She makes a logical choice because she knows it's gonna take a really long time to do the thing the ritual Yeah. That he needs to get done. You have time. Yeah.

Yeah. And I believe in you. What is the line she says? She's like, think of something. He's like, I'm trying.

And then he she says something like, well, think of something fast because if he turns me into a mommy, you're the first one I'm coming after. That is exactly what she says. Well done. And then you see Rick's realization that she's gonna Yes. Go with it.

The Great writing. Great acting. And they're like, the no. Like, are him, like, clearly, like, I I got gooseys. Like, the love is already there.

Like, they Yeah. They have grown this love in such a short amount of time. They hold him back. Like, no. No.

Like, the creature has to take her to Hamanatran and do the ritual, like, live to fight another day. And as Winston Yeah. This is when Winston is back. First, we lose the librarian. He sacrifices himself.

He could have just hopped down the sewer drain. He totally could have. I like that he's like, I'll buy you time, and it's like, it's almost like Job in Arrested Development. It's like, what does that buy us? Like, 20, 30 seconds, and it's like, what?

And it's like, no. You you're right. That's really important. It's like the awesome powers, the steamroll. The guy's like, no.

It's like, just move. Just just move. Yeah. Just move. You'll be fine.

No. Now we get Winston back. I love him. They're flying into Hamunaptra, and we get the Helen Hunt cameo for a second, which is pretty dope. The tornado?

That's gotta be an f 3. Right? Twister? F 3 or f 4? Yeah.

I love that. But it's like it's a it's a thing that they use, like, to travel, and it's manifested by mood. I that's so I don't need. I love that when they get Winston to come aboard, they're like he's like, is it dangerous? He probably won't live through it.

And he's like Yes. That's the thing that, like Yeah. Brings Save the damsel. And then yeah. Save the world.

Save the damsel. Kill the bad guys. Save the world. Has anyone seen Uncharted? Unfortunately.

Yeah. I have not seen that. Should I not? Mhmm. Don't worry about it.

If you play the games? Yes. Yeah. They're nothing like the games. There's a little bit that I'm watching the movie, and I'm like, in this moment, that feels kind of like Uncharted.

There's, like, a sort of Drake. Clearly, Uncharted was a Indiana Jones homage. Indiana Jones slash mummy slash National Treasure. Yeah. That's why the games are so successful.

The movie has, like, maybe 5 minutes of that. They they cut together moments from all of the games a bit. There's like, ah, this moment feels like But, like, the overall arc isn't It's just very interesting. I just I'm not a fan of the casting. Like, Mark Walrus.

But just not as these I don't want these are these are not who I envisioned as these characters. Yeah. I get that. But, yeah, they travel by tornado. Yeah.

And By like lot of tornadoes. Winston flying and the big sand face NATO thing that Imhotep is controlling after them and swallowing them. And the idea that Winston has been like, I've been wasting away. I wanna die. I wanna die a hero's death.

And glory. And also to my point that this is all Helen Hunt situation or at least akin to because when Eevee kisses Imhotep, tornado stops. NATO stops? Yeah. Distracts.

He's happy. No more Nattos. Oh, yeah. Winston impression. That's good.

Very happy. Y'all can't see that, but he's very happy. When they're flying and they have He dies with a smile. Jonathan's tied to one wing and the head of the Majai is tied to the other wing. Yeah.

And he's like, Jonathan, he's like, how's it going? He's like, how do you think I'm it's going? And then he turns to the other guy. How you doing? And he's just got a big smile on his face.

Big old grin. This is where I think of the mummy, the ride at Universal. There are not folks that are listening, there are not a lot of really fun rides that go forward as well as backward. Yeah. And the mummy ride at Universal goes backward.

And to me, I was watching this film and was like, oh, man. This is supposed to be, like, John Hannah and Oded Fehr, like, riding backward on that fucking on Winston's plane. And this is also Very fun. This is the beginning of act 5 for me. Is this Yeah.

Is this chase to ham and achar just to save. And my favorite Benny line short. By year end. Only takes place in Egypt. Okay.

My favorite Benny line is I love the wall of sand. That was just so Basted. The bastards. Yeah. They got a big laugh in the theater.

He's That's really good. And the sinking the sinking ship The quicksand. Winston, and they salute him Yeah. To give him Tiger's a smile. Mhmm.

Yeah. The scarab scare and Imhotep kind of, like, sending the homies, like, arising as priests. Yeah. What I love too is, like, the mummy is the worst of the bad guys. He has he brings again, they should have just killed him.

Put a stab him through the heart. Why curse the man to the point where if he is brought back, this shit happens? The most vengeful spirit. Just fucking just fucking kill him. What are we doing?

But anyway, yes. He's able to bring back his priests who are, like, zombie mummy. Killer guy. Yeah. Like, loyalists or what have you.

They're the undead from the D and D. They also make the silliest noises. But the undead from the D and D are, like, awesome, like, practical slash models. You know what's really funny too is that for this special effects, they actually built these models and live scanned them. So, like, there's models of all of these creatures that they then scanned in and then recreated.

And so, like, it's just about the time that this movie is made. Fucking way to go, Windows 95. You did your best. 1999, this was the people were on the pie in this was a I mean, George Lucas did the same thing. Sure.

We are talking about a time where everyone was, like, this is the future of movies, and it didn't age well. Yeah. And that's just I mean, like, the Matrix Reloaded fucking Agent Smith fight is probably the worst CG of anything. And that's, what, 2 years later? So so, like 2, 3 years.

For me, I forgive a lot of the CG in this because it's just that's the time. Also, the thing this movie regains stature with us is the sets, the the practical sets Yes. Are fantastic. They're amazing. The environments aren't fake at all.

Ugh. No. The environments are real. Everything, like, inside Hamanatra, like, the stone staircases, you know, or the the low lit, like, hallways and stuff. Yeah.

It's all just beautiful. The treasure room, you know, everything. The big thing for me with this movie and in general, I don't know, man. Dungeons and Dragons might be somewhere near an apex for me of effects just because it was Movie that was made last year? Yeah.

Yeah. Because it's a beautiful blend of practical But they weren't doing that at this time. No. I get that. And I understand.

Am I supposed to pat this thing on the back for setting back filmmaking? I don't see CG as something that's like advanced filmmaking. But at the time, it was. I get it, but I would rather I I I'm doing a cardinal sin of saying, I would have liked to have seen this stuff not happening. I I don't want the CG stuff happening.

I want practical continuing to move forward. Forward. They were doing I I get it. They were doing a bit of combination practical and CG because they had, like well, no. But also they had well, yes.

And but they also had, the priests. Yeah. They were CG coming out. Yeah. But then there are practical people in costumes after Yeah.

At times. Yeah. Going Yeah. Shaking violently. And, like, praying around while they're gonna sacrifice.

Like Yeah. And they did the things, like some of the fights. Like, they became there were practical people in outfits with, like, big rubber masks on. And they did things where, like, when the mummy There's a blend there. Yeah.

When the mummy is coming after Rick and he's shooting him, the gun In the gold room? The no. Way earlier. The bullets are blowing up vases behind him Right. As it's affecting the mummy as he's walking.

Oh, yeah. Real quick. Back up. I just wanna mention the time where Rick finds Benny in Egypt, and this is where he picks up a chair and fucking throws it at me to take him out. And that was my chair throw.

Mhmm. Is that a did Brendan Fraser or a stunt man throw that at Kevin O'Connor or a stunt man? Does anybody know? It doesn't matter because it just fucking works. Yeah.

No. This is, like, when you asked me about the certain things that white man can't jump, it's, like, who cares? It's, like, ultimately, like, with this, I agree with you. Like, who cares? I just remember rewatching that movie.

I was watching it and with former guest Brandon Marino. And it was just like, Benny, there you are. And, like, Benny starts to run. And from a Rick O'Connell point of view, he looks he's like, there's nothing he doesn't wanna shoot him in the back. Right.

There's nothing else he's gonna do except for pick up this fucking chair and fucking dodgeball him down with it. And I just think that is such a great character And I'm meeting. Yeah. Moment. Anyway Like the whole movie.

Come back to this moment. If you dodge a bullet, you can dodge a chair. Yeah. Come back to this moment and now Evie has been chained to a stone platform and she's next to the corpse of Anakshunamun. And the priests the priests are coming to take out, oh, and the, head of the majai has now seemingly sacrificed himself as well.

Yeah. Serve the creature. Serve the girl. Yeah. Yeah.

They get through the gold room, the treasure room. Benny's trying to rip everything off he can. They already they already dynamited a bunch of Priests. Priests and more Well, you should because all the priests do, they just they just give you they just blow blow you dry, man. Oh, they do bad stuff.

All your friend little kid? Mostly to Twisties. To little kids. Because all your friend little kid. The Rick save here Yeah.

Of Eevee. It's great. This sword the sword fight is Final battle pretty works pretty well for me. It's funny. It's heavy in action.

It's the The pharaoh guard thing is cool. The pharaohs come alive. And then this is where Jonathan has to Final riding device. This is where Jonathan has to prove himself is that Yeah. Like, continue the transcription, idiots, and you can control them.

And now we have Jonathan. Badass, like, pharaoh guards who are after Rick, and suddenly Jonathan's able to remember that he he grew up in the same household as Evie. Like, these are Yeah. His parents were the like, he transcription right at the second that the fucking blades I love it. It's great.

It's a it's it's a 10 high tension cinematic moment. Into his cheek. Yeah. The fucking blades are in Rick's cheek. Oh, yeah.

Has anyone ever thought about 2 things? 1 Yeah. You have cheeks outside of a hole on your body in 2 different places, which is crazy. We were talking about how I'm almost too present. I have ADHD, but I paid, like, very close attention to this movie.

And sometimes I think I have 84k. Maybe 80 Is that your is that your is that your hip hop name? 84k? Yeah. It is now.

But a great thing about that moment of Jonathan trying to read the thing, it was like, let's I don't know what this last figure is. It looks like a swan. And meanwhile, Eevee's fighting off Oh, yeah. The Anox in a movie. Yeah.

And is Trent, like Yeah. Transcribing with him. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, it's this thing.

And, like, meanwhile, like, battling for her life. Anox in a character, like She's great. Holding her own It's great. And she's good to And intellectually and strength wise, like, you know, do doing shit. And then he's like, oh, yeah.

That's what it is. And then he says it and then yeah. Then everything cheeks cheeks up. Well, I love the mummy's hubris here because he probably could've killed Rick at any moment, but he Like the Magi. He's a fucking asshole, and he's just like, this guy is just a pest.

I'm just gonna throw him around, toy with him. Me respect and for the rule of inhabit that I know she'll get. And this is where Eevee and him get to beat the mummy. Because Eevee gets to finally open the book of Amon Ra. Yep.

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Oh, they definitely saw this movie. A week before Halloween. Anak Sunamun is down. It's over By the Ferrogards. They take him out in a shadow.

It's great. In a shadow. Shadow. The invocation of who are these folks? Like, the cats, heralds, or whatever that come and take Imhotep's It's, like, immortal soul.

Yeah. They they take his immortal soul away. The Hades, for lack of a better, I don't know Okay. Egyptian. But yeah.

And that he's still coming after Rick assistance. He's come after Rick like he still has badass mummy energy. Oh, yeah. And Rick just confidence. Yeah.

Even in the point of right before Noxana Moon is killed It's so good. He's going after the book thinking I can read this and get them back on my side Yep. Before it's too late. And then he he should've just gone after his performance. I love it.

His performance in this is, it's so cool. Fast. Yeah. When he's walking through the desert with, a, walking in sand, rarely looks cool for anybody. Yeah.

It's a hard thing to do. In a fucking, like, cloak? In a big black cloak and a little, like, Mowgli, onesie on his on his wiener. Yeah. And he looks fucking awesome.

Yeah. Dude, this episode is for the mothers. It is. And, like, not only Brendan Fraser, but, like, shouts to Arnold Bosley with his codpiece, man. Yeah.

Like, I'm rocking the fucking codpiece. And Rick gets to stab him. Oh, all of the sound effects in this movie, but the, like Yeah. Of some of the effects, like, the sound effects. You hear bone.

Yeah. Well, I guess And then she just says, he's mortal. And, like, he sees he looks down. I I'm really torn about the mummy's death. Oh.

It's it's a similar reason why I don't I kind of wish he just fell down dead as a human because she says he's mortal. The same thing I wish we got at the end of Harry Potter when they technically killed the last horcrux, and at that point, Tom Riddle is no longer ethereal. He's he should be complete, and he should just die as a as a man. Mhmm. And his body should just fall instead in the movie.

He, like, flakes off into magic. He just yeah. And then there's the same thing. Drag him back down. And we see the we see the de evolution of the mummy, which that part, I think, is a cool idea of, like, seeing how he, like, regenerated, and now we're degenerating back to the, like, juicy mummy part and pulled in.

I I guess I'm gonna defend this in this moment to whatever degree. The performance is so good that I feel that his immortal soul gets carried off, and there's this thing that carries over through the Vaslu body language of, like, I'm not dead. Yeah. I'm not dead. And he just goes after Brandon Fraser as we were saying he was, like, toying with him.

Like, he's just gonna continue with his behavior. Yeah. And then he walks into the knife, like, the sword. He walks into it. Confident.

I am pretty sure she says he's mortal after the blade has entered him. Yeah. And so it's like a hoisted by your own petard sort of a thing. Like, your ego, your arrogance fucking killed you. Yeah.

Rick O'Connell didn't nobody you killed you to a degree. And it actually it carries for me. It floats for me in terms of this movie. That's an appropriate word. But, like, it works well.

And the escape, you gotta have, like, that whole place coming down Well, and and then, like, a ticking clock. And Jonathan trips in the book of mom and ra goes in the water, and then he had the moment of Eby coming back with, the book, can we just no. The Umbrella? Oh, yeah. They grab her and come back.

And then they go into the treasure room, and Champa's like, can we just and they both go back, no. And grab her. It's a great bit. It's fun. And Benny being the greedy fucking bastard who triggered the whole syncing of this Yeah.

With one little trigger that is just randomly out. He puts the satchel on it. Pretty fucking random. Like, there's nothing there to say, like, don't press this. But it's just a lovely moment of put the weighted satchel on there, beat great.

It's a very Indiana Jones thing. Raiders. And even at this point, Rick is still trying to help Benny. Yeah. He's like, come on.

Come on. Come on. Come on. The thing's sinking, and he's trying to grab Benny's house. Many times he's been stabbed in the back of his man.

It just closes, and he goes for the last time, he goes, goodbye, Benny. Brandon fucking Fraser, man. Another moment I wish I could rewrite a little bit is when Benny I get why we get the surrounded by bugs. It's a very, like, horror y moment, and the flame goes out. Yeah.

But how more horrifying would it be like that. If he just had to, like, be in there for eternity? Just now I'm I'm gonna die really slowly. I'm gonna die of thirst Yes. In this room of treasure.

It's mentioned surrounded by everything I've wanted this whole time. It's mentioned in this movie as well as Dune. This is the desert. Gold is invaluable with these people. Water.

Water is valuable to these people. And something I learned about the Friday 13th reboot produced by everybody's favorite in this room, Michael Bay. There is a cutscene where Derek Mears who brilliantly plays Jason Voorhees just waits someone out on the shore of the lake for them to drown. Mhmm. And they cut the scene.

And it's so good. And to your point McFadden, I want that. Yeah. Like, I like the the scarabs are fun enough or whatever in him. Like, there's one scarab and then there's a 1,000.

It's like, okay. But I had the exact same thought that you did where he just, like, the torch goes out and it's over. Yeah. He's just alone in the dark. It's more satisfying.

Surrounded by the thing he's wanted the whole time. Yeah. It's more satisfying. And then the moment, finally, I guess we got away with nothing. I guess we don't get anything.

He's like, I wouldn't say that. And we get Smooth Rex. It's a great romantic ending. And The Magi dude's still alive. Oden Fair made it out because of course he did.

Because they need him for the sequel. Well, and it's like he knows that place like the back of his hand. I think that's has been his whole life. Right? His dedication to this whole the temple, the whole deal.

The Majai salute you because you brought this thing back. So it's all your fault. And you killed a lot of my men. Almost all of them, actually. I'm the only one left.

But you know what? Madras I salute you. The last letter I that she taught me respect and for the rule of inhabitant that I know she'll get. Mother, there is no other. I know Mad respect to you, dog.

You're the man now, dog. I killed a lot of your people. You killed a lot of my people. You killed a lot of my people. You killed a lot of people there for me.

You left me for dead. Yeah. But you got it done. You did it, old boy. But when they're kissing We did it, old boys.

And Jonathan goes up to the camel. And that's a live camel who gives that reaction of like he's like, what about you? Would you like a little kiss? And they kinda like What? And they ride off to the sunset with the gold they don't know is on there that Benny loaded onto the camel.

Uh-huh. Yep. Lot of gold. Lot of lot of lot of gold. One of the things oh, man.

I just this movie That's so cool. What did we miss, guys? I'm good. What did we miss? You know, I think just talking to Rick's character of just it's like almost his mantra.

It's just I'm never gonna give you up. I'm never gonna let you down. Don't Rick roll us. Don't Rick roll us. Oh, man.

It didn't work. Damn it. Stupid. You want you went to Apple Music rather than just playing it. And that's what makes you really upset.

I'm gonna try this again. So, you know, there's this, like, this thing this mantra that, like, for for Rick, like, his his and the thing is, like, I'm never gonna give you up. I'm never gonna let you down. I'm never gonna run around and desert you. I love it.

He's a good guy, man. I love dessert. It gonna hurt you though? By the way, I have taken August 6th from hey, we dropped the bomb from the Enola Gay to to desserts day. Oh.

Let's have 2 desserts. Well, y'all, we have definitely passed the time of what we wanted to. Oh, we sure have. But let us re rank our movie It's worth it. And get out of here.

Can I make a request? Please. Burrus, you're not a guest. You're not a friend. Oh.

You're family. Oh, okay. And that means I can treat you like shit. Oh. I would like to go last because I feel like a lot of this is hinging on me.

Sure. And I need some time. Is that okay? That's fine. Okay.

So Burris, are you okay with that? Yeah. Do you want me to go first or you to go first? Is this a question for me? Yeah.

You go first. Let's go We'll go this 1st. Liking. Okay. So, we all know I'm high on this movie.

I I think for me, the for me, at least, like, that made me actually realize that that I wasn't a crazy child who, like, just was, like, obsessed with Indiana Jones and, like, that's why I like this movie was ruined. I showed it to my then girlfriend, now wife. As Yeah. And I think, you know, I feel like there's always gonna be a slight hesitation to show something that's so precious to you from your youth to somebody that you care about because you don't know you don't know if it's gonna hold up. You don't know if it's gonna hit with them.

You want it to. You want it to have the same effect that it did and does on you. The fact that she is, like, fucking balls to the wall for this movie and still is was, like You brought her in as a ringer. And it Just sweat. No.

But it really it really, like, reinforced that this movie not only was solid and, like, yes, made some very poor choices in the CG department, which they again, if you wanna watch them, they're on YouTube. Despite the behind the scenes, the dudes who wanna talk about it got some long ponytails and some gross mustaches and some weird glasses. But they're like they're like the first 30 minutes is just them talking about, like, the sinews and the muscles and the and, like, look at how we recreate it. Transparent. Yeah.

And I'm like, guys, should've thought about that at this age. Okay. But, not the thing that I keep coming back to the movie for. So I think that, like It's the writing. Yes.

It is the writing, and it's the performances. And it's that grounding romance that really makes this movie work. And it's weird because it's not a horror movie. It's it's it's an adventure romance comedy with horror aspects. Is this Temple of Doom in its, like, highest execution, do you think?

Because that movie borders on a horror movie at times. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure.

Sure. Sure. Yeah. Do you feel like that? Yeah.

Okay. Obviously, here, I'm sticking at my 5 chair throws. I actually might think you might come down, like, a half, but that wasn't obvious to me. Again, I think I could sit at a 4a half for some issues that I have with the movie, but the the nostalgia poll is just hard for me. You made a really good point, especially in, like, hey.

My person, this is also, like, this is our thing. Yeah. That yeah. I I get that. I'm gonna sit I'm gonna sit there at the 5 chair throws.

Just a yes, and you. Everything you just said and, like, the characters, there's such great character development. Everyone has a play has a journey that they go on Yeah. No matter how short or how you know? And and it's really strong.

I I could pick a a part and and go down, but everything that this movie was supposed to be, it hits really well. It's a fun, silly action adventure with romance. It's romancing the stone meets with some temple of doom and all this stuff, and it just it all it works. It worked, and it's memorable. I am see, I don't remember the last time I watched it, like, just sat down and watched it, but every moment I was like, oh, this is coming up.

That's coming up. I remember this line. I remember that. Oh, this is a great moment. Like, it sticks with you and it doesn't need to be The Godfather to get Right.

No. It's not that kind of number level thought, like, you know, like, the movie. Top of the mountain. But it is a The Paramount. Yeah.

For me, it's like it that is a movie. It's a movie that you can always rely on to entertain and give you a level of enjoyment and just Do you remember when Dane do you remember when Dane told us that this movie was, on par with Independence Day and we were like, you're a fucking psychopath. What are you talking about? Independence Day is like a 3 star movie. No.

Not yeah. Not wrong. Yeah. That's a movie that yeah. It doesn't I'm rewatching.

That movie did not age well, but I remember loving it when I saw it. Alright. We're gonna throw it to the Darth Vapor over there. Mhmm. He's vaping.

Call me lord vapor. Oh, sorry. I gotta think. I had to take 3 hits right now. I have to think so hard.

I had to kill at least 99 brain cells. We're done. We gotta get out of here. This is the theme for y'all for this movie is you're never gonna give it up. Boy, I thought I made some really good points, and I found myself defending this at times.

And then I found myself at times being like, fuck. Did y'all do, like, Mary and Ravenwood, like, on steroids where it's like, you wanna see me hit some dingers where it's just, like, constant home runs from this character, which is, like, so fucking satisfying. Yeah. God. It.

I wanna take a sip of water. Please do. I'll have one too. Thank you, senator. I like beer.

Bugs. I drink beer. I I shoot dogs. So That's Burris. This movie does I think this is the thing that's so hard.

I have absolutely no reverence for GI Joe or Van Helsing or so many things. And the CG for me is, like, harder to forgive because I think it opened a really difficult Pandora's box for a really long time. Pandora Avatar Papyrus. So it can be it's difficult for me to wanna give this what I think I'm about to give it. I I think I wanna give it a 4.

Yeah. I I think I need to forgive some of the inevitable shit that you were saying, McFadden. And really so something that both of you are saying where it's just like, this is so good at saying, like, the score, the score, the acting, the writing are so strong. These three pillars that, like, you really need to, like, lean on, those pillars are fucking indestructible. They really are.

This this is a 4 pristine slightly, like, eggshell colored cats. Yeah. Beautiful, enormous canines. It is. This this is one of those movies I agree with you, McFadden.

I don't know if you feel this way, Burris. Like, I I have a reverence for National Treasure for a million reasons. But where it's like Jon Voigt, you by the way, you are 100%, like, the conspiracy theorist in Psycho. That's true. It's so funny.

Mhmm. Yeah. I just think this movie really gets into it's like last star fighter really wanted to get into this zone. It's really hard, and that's a movie that has really rough CG and laid some foundation. Yeah.

This is laying some additional foundation that's just so much more digestible. I'm gonna I'm gonna go away with a 4. I like this movie. I will watch it again. I proudly owned this movie at a time, and I'm sure I'll watch it again.

But I also I can't imagine getting the satisfaction of sharing this with, like, a loved one or a future loved one and, like, getting that gratification, that verification through and from that. That's a cool thing. And I understand your your takeaway to, like, the visual effects and then what came afterward, but I you can't blame this movie for the decade and a half and more that came after it. I'm just like, we're gonna go full in CG. We're just gonna It was just like the It was just the people we're doing.

We were just, like, right at this It's kinda like what's happening with volumes right now Mhmm. Where everyone's using a volume to a point where you're like, okay. I can see the lines. Like, can you not And we were just at the birth of a technology, like, that had been building over the last 12 year you know, 15 years. Yeah.

The And slowly being honed, and it was, like, we're getting close. And then we just all just bankrolled it. The And it went too far in. Yeah. The matrix is such a specific and special thing when it happened and what it was able to do.

Yeah. And I I guess, like, I lose sight of that sometimes. And this was a good conversation to remember how great the matrix is. Thank you. We've gone way over our time.

Way over. Thank you. It's a special movie. It's for the mothers. And mothers and mummies and moms and moms, we love you all.

Absolutely. Truly. Our bookend themes You deserve some ranch or relax, though. Our bookend themes are Jamie Henwood. Our what are we watching theme is Matthew Foskett.

Some of those little tiny themes in there are me. And there's a little snippet of Chris Olds in there. Oh, yeah. And I think you might hear Zach Zoszewski in here, telling us that this is life as a house. We'll see.

That is terrible. Terrible. Burris, anything yeah. The one thing that could have made this movie just a little bit better would be, Jake Johnson. Ride the eagle.

Ride that eagle, baby. I believe you As a child, though, he'd be he would've been I don't know how old he'd been. Yeah. But with that one statement, if you worked at Universal, $5,000,000. Oh, no.

Seriously. Sir, this is my actual this is my actual statement. This movie would have made an amazing Universal Studios stunt show. Oh, it would have. Yeah.

You would have. Yeah. But it just, like, what the Waterworld stunt show came out in 95, and this movie came out in 99. Yeah. Thank you so much for listening.

You know how to follow us. You know how to find us. Thank you everybody that contributes musically listening wise. Burris, again, your family. And when I said that means we get to treat you like, poo poo.

Mhmm. Like, how, I got out of the game even though I correct made the correct movie with Laurence Fishburne. The Wow. He's gonna hold that. John Mc2.

And I was like, no. You're wrong. I was like, and we moved on. I was like, next time I'm right. We had gone We just I feel like we had gone too far.

Did Ben McFadden, did you and I both say, I think he didn't show up till 3. Did we both say that? Said that. Yeah. Yeah.

If you were wrong. I just wanna But you know what I wanna say? Wanna make sure. To all you mothers out there, thank you. Yes.

You know what? And I'm gonna say this, Burris, to make up for what we did We put you through. Mhmm. I think we owe you 1. Hold that in your pocket.

We owe you 1. You define that how you like. Like, he can bring 1? We owe you 1 of whatever he likes. Doesn't have to be on our list or anything.

We haven't let him bring one of his own in a while. What if we have to do somewhere in time again? No. How about what's this to, list to, Don't say it out loud. No.

Because I'm just joking. I was just not one that I actually bring, but I it's one that I just like the whole of your head as a threat. It would be, cabin boy. Not captain Ron. I that might be my last name.

We gotta get out of here. We really do. Thank you so much everyone for listening. Burris, thank you so much for coming. Mothers, we love you.

Good night.