Unlocking Success in Real Estate Wholesaling: Marcus Harvey

Unlocking Success in Real Estate Wholesaling: Marcus Harvey

June 04, 2024 The Professionalist Real Estate Investing Podcast
Unlocking Success in Real Estate Wholesaling: Marcus Harvey
Unlocking Success in Real Estate Wholesaling: Marcus Harvey
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Unlocking Success in Real Estate Wholesaling: Marcus Harvey
Unlocking Success in Real Estate Wholesaling: Marcus Harvey
Jun 04, 2024
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Can understanding the fundamentals of real estate wholesaling transform your investment strategy? Join us as we sit down with Marcus Harvey from Property Relief LLC, a seasoned expert who shares his insights on navigating the current real estate market. From identifying hot markets to analyzing the competition, Marcus provides a roadmap for aspiring wholesalers to boost their success. He emphasizes the importance of market research and understanding housing trends, equipping you with the knowledge to thrive in the fast-paced world of real estate wholesaling.

Ever wondered if direct mail still holds power in the digital age? Discover the secrets behind effective marketing strategies for uncovering real estate opportunities, especially in distressed properties. Marcus delves into the practicalities of "driving for dollars" and shares real-life examples that highlight the importance of hands-on methods. Networking plays a pivotal role in uncovering off-market deals, and Marcus's stories illuminate how one strategic contact can multiply your opportunities exponentially. With an emphasis on evaluating properties accurately, you'll gain the skills to spot those hidden gems in your local area.

Closing deals with confidence and precision is key to successful wholesaling. Marcus breaks down the essential tips and strategies for managing property transactions, from performing thorough due diligence to negotiating contracts. Building and maintaining a robust buyer's list is crucial, and platforms like PropStream can be invaluable tools in this process. Marcus also stresses the importance of nurturing relationships with property buyers, ensuring meticulous coordination between all parties involved. Whether you're a seasoned investor or just stepping into the world of wholesaling, this episode is packed with actionable advice to elevate your real estate game.

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Can understanding the fundamentals of real estate wholesaling transform your investment strategy? Join us as we sit down with Marcus Harvey from Property Relief LLC, a seasoned expert who shares his insights on navigating the current real estate market. From identifying hot markets to analyzing the competition, Marcus provides a roadmap for aspiring wholesalers to boost their success. He emphasizes the importance of market research and understanding housing trends, equipping you with the knowledge to thrive in the fast-paced world of real estate wholesaling.

Ever wondered if direct mail still holds power in the digital age? Discover the secrets behind effective marketing strategies for uncovering real estate opportunities, especially in distressed properties. Marcus delves into the practicalities of "driving for dollars" and shares real-life examples that highlight the importance of hands-on methods. Networking plays a pivotal role in uncovering off-market deals, and Marcus's stories illuminate how one strategic contact can multiply your opportunities exponentially. With an emphasis on evaluating properties accurately, you'll gain the skills to spot those hidden gems in your local area.

Closing deals with confidence and precision is key to successful wholesaling. Marcus breaks down the essential tips and strategies for managing property transactions, from performing thorough due diligence to negotiating contracts. Building and maintaining a robust buyer's list is crucial, and platforms like PropStream can be invaluable tools in this process. Marcus also stresses the importance of nurturing relationships with property buyers, ensuring meticulous coordination between all parties involved. Whether you're a seasoned investor or just stepping into the world of wholesaling, this episode is packed with actionable advice to elevate your real estate game.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome everybody to the Professors Real Estate Investing Podcast. I'm with the Property Relief LLC, mr Marcus Harvey. How you doing today, bro.

Speaker 2:

Hey, what's happening Just here for another good episode with you.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yes, yes, indeed. Yeah, this one is going to be about wholesaling. And I figured about the one with wholesaling is because me and you've been talking a lot about wholesaling and a lot of people probably don't even know what wholesaling is, and you know the way our housing, uh, the way the housing is here in the united states. I mean it's, it's ridiculous. So you want to work one about what can you do with all those abandoned homes, those ones that are boarded up, uh, empty lots. Yeah, this is a this is going to be a good one, good topic for everyone out there.

Speaker 2:

Indeed it is, let's get to it.

Speaker 1:

Okay, all right. The first part of it about the step-by-step to real estate wholesaling in today's market would be the market research analysis, basically understanding the trends, identifying the hot markets. Analyze the competition, but especially the understanding the trends identifying the hot markets. Analyze the competition, but especially the understanding, the current trends, because real estate it goes in waves of how everything goes from a housing supply, the demand, interest rates, um economic uh conditions and everything.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, um, that's like the first step. You got got to know your market, you got to analyze the market. You got to see what's going on out there. If you're going to try to wholesale, that's like the first step. You got to do the market research, got to see what's going on, what kind of properties that are out there. Um, you know, um, what is it? See, identify hot markets. You got to get to the markets where the flippers are at. So if you want to try to find a wholesale deal, you know, go to the area that go, go to the neighborhoods where the flippers are flipping at, because more likely they're going to want to buy more houses in that area. They're already flipping in the area. So kind of just get a feel for what's going on.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. And then it says that the part with the analyze competition, you want to study what other wholesalers are doing when, when they hit these tight target markets, because you want to kind of you know, not go step-by-step with them, but you can put your own little twist on them. But you want to know how. You know that's how life goes. You want to know how you do about your own way. So it opens and broadens up your mind. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, exactly. You just want to be able to just like try to see what they're doing, kind of connect with them professionally. Don't make it too much of a competition, because you know there's always going to be other wholesalers in your market and other markets. So just kind of just, you know, check out what's going on by talking with them. Just know that you know it's a numbers game. So the deal that you don't get, maybe they do get, and the ones that they don't get, or having a hard trouble closing, you'll maybe end up getting. So you know, basically analyzing the competitions, see who's really, you know, doing wholesaling out there in your area, in your market, and just making sure you find opportunities to help each other.

Speaker 1:

Exactly and then figuring out what trends and everything going on with the other wholesalers. That brings us to the next step of building your network. How do you build your network? There's plenty of ways of building your network. How do you build your network? There's plenty of ways of building your network. First, the easiest way, off top of the head real estate agent. Because they know exactly what's going on with the market. You could ask them exactly like what area are they good at, knowledgeable at? If anything comes about? That's how a lot of the wholesalers and investors get connected is by real estate agents, because they usually have like off-market deals, and off-market deals help out huge. That's where the ones where basically off-market deal is basically something that hasn't hit the market or might be hitting the market soon, and if someone would like that, that investment or that property, it's fair game. And then with also joining real estate groups.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly yeah. Partner with real investors, connect with other. Connecting with other investors. It helps out a whole lot. Well, you know, philip, you know just like, with how you do it too, you make a list of the cash buyers. You basically synchronize everything that's going on. Be like okay, this person's a cash buyer, what is he looking for? Stipulations as to if they want a three-bedroom or a four-bedroom house, a house with a pool or if it's an empty lot. There's many factors that come into play with the wholesaling.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I usually go sometimes, like I was telling you before, just to the courthouse looking at who's buying those foreclosure trustee sale properties and stuff like that. I try to connect with those investors, try to get a feel, get their information, get a feel for what they're looking for. So that's like one of the ways I, you know, kind of build my network with, you know, going out of the courthouse and you know, just to see who's showing up by those foreclosure, foreclosure properties that are trustee sales.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, that's right. I forgot about that part right there going to the courthouse, because usually you know, especially where we live at it's, I believe, still every Thursday that those ones, those houses, are in foreclosure. So there's this basic cash buyers up there and they already done their homework as to what properties are going to be going to be offered up there. So that's a great way to leverage your time and your energy by going up there talking to other investors, wholesalers and real estate agents, as I said before, because networking is key. Your network is your net worth, so it's always that's so true when it comes about it. And then the next part.

Speaker 2:

Go ahead, you got it. No, I was just going to say yeah, because you want to be in the game and you want to be playing the game and letting other people know that you're out here. You know to to look for deals just as well as they're you know like they're looking for deals, so you know. That's all I wanted to to say.

Speaker 1:

You just want to let people know that you're in the game, so yes, exactly yeah, because you get a familiar face and then you know the next time you come up there, just like a foreclosure, the next following month or the next following week, and then it's like I recognize your face, you get a conversation.

Speaker 2:

That conversation can go a long ways oh yeah, for sure, for sure, so, just always, so just always. Gotta, you know, stay connected, let people know you're in the game and just be well informed, you know, be well informed, um, uh, who, what groups are joining and who you're, you know, partnering up with as far as, as far as building your, you know, building your network.

Speaker 1:

Yes, all right. The next one is, uh, finding profitable deals. So on this part, right here, there's different ways how to go about it, especially, you know, we. We're in a special generation of everything just fast to our fingertips.

Speaker 1:

Um it says uh, it says direct mail campaigns, but a lot of people I know some people still do it, but a lot of people I know some people still do it, but a lot of people. Basically everything online. You go to your Zillow Zillow, you go to your realtor dot com, you go to your Craigslist, you go to your auction sites. There's, there's actually tons and tons of sites, when it comes to this, that you can look at or that you don't even really have to pay for. You can just look at and be like OK, and then you get the information that you need Right to pay for.

Speaker 2:

You can just look at and be like okay, and then you get the information that you need um right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, would you add something to that? Real quick, I need to get you off.

Speaker 2:

No, you're good, you're good. I was just gonna say, uh, yeah, the direct snail mail is still. You can still do that. But with everything I ai and online nowadays everything's so streamlined nowadays I think the only thing for direct mail now, if you want to do it, is a way to kind of like stand out than you know, just a regular little junk mail flyer or something. I would still, you know, consider doing direct mail just to have it out there I wouldn't keep spending a whole bunch of money on it. But to make it more personal and to kind of stand out from the crowd, it's a good way, I think, to still, you know, every once in a while, do direct mail.

Speaker 1:

That's what I was actually. Yes, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I was going to say also too, because the direct mail still works. I remember one time, a little bit over a year ago, me and Rocky we looked at a house. We could tell there was distress and I was able to get the address for him. And that address worked. It actually worked. Uh, he mailed a. He mailed a letter to a, uh, the lady who owned the house in texas, and the lady from texas actually responded back to him. So it it does work. It does work. I just said like, since we have this fast, fast, instant generation right now, a lot of people you know they deal with the, the emails, and they go about everything on the websites yeah, direct mail is like, you know, you can still get down with that.

Speaker 2:

but with everything where, with everything's going now with ai and internet and stuff like that, it's just it's slow, it's slow campaigning. Um, you want to be able to uh, stay ahead of the game. Like I said, with direct mail people want to, like, maybe stand out from the rest of the crowd, so they'll still kind of do that. But and it's, you can make it much more personable, uh, for who you're mailing it to. But still, it doesn't beat Internet texting, email calling, direct, you know cold calling. So you know, because you want to get, to get to these owners before anybody else does. That's the name of the game. Just talk to as many owners as possible every single day before everyone else does.

Speaker 1:

Yes. And then the next one I like too is like me and you, what you've done we're probably going to spend a day doing it is driving for dollars, and that's huge, because the driving for dollars, like you know, when a house is distressed you know when a house is distressed, ones that are boarded up or they're just not not maintained at all uh, basically, you know doing your homework at get the address. You know zip code, make sure the zip code is right, the address is right, and then do your research as to what's going on with that property.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. Yeah, driving for dollars is like a crucial, especially in like the areas that we live in here, right here in Shasta and Tehama, right here it's, like you know, a new property could go into like distress mode, like just instantly. Like you know, around here someone can move out instantly and then just it not being advertised already, you can jump on it first. You know you can be able to reach out to the owner first. If you see tall grass or if you see houses boarded up and just a distressed looking property, you could be one of the ones that can just jump on it before any other wholesaler or any other real estate agent will try to jump on it.

Speaker 2:

So it's, driving for dollars is a really good way Going to need some gas, but it's a good way to get property leads, you know, other than just sitting on like you know website trying to look up you know vacants and stuff like that, because they you know databases and stuff have so much information you don't know what's new and what's old, so you want to stay fresh. You know you filter out what's new, but you want to stay fresh by driving for dollars to see oh, I see this person's got a U-Haul in the driveway. It looks like they're getting ready to move. House looks in distress. Write down the address you know.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes. And then the last one is in this category right here Networking. Leverage your connections to find off market deals through word of mouth. Word of mouth still goes a long ways nowadays. I mean it goes seriously fast, because you could just that one. It's always been taught to me that one person can change your whole life. It can change your whole life when you're talking to the right person, because that right person can leave you to so many different channels, so much progression in your life.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's just because you don't know who they know. So meeting someone new, meeting new connections and being able to network to be able to find these deals, you know, is just an awesome way to be able to keep business going. You know what I mean. You want to be able to network to be able to keep business going and be professional when you network always, you know.

Speaker 1:

Yes, the next one is the evaluating properties, which is definitely huge, because me and you've talked about this a lot. When it comes to properties, yeah, it may be boarded up, but uh, for instance, an example, the one house that we was talking about when I seen you this past weekend, uh, remember how we first went to it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was smashed windows everywhere, some of the spots was boarded up, but then we went to the side of the backyard and the whole plumbing was all messed up. That's just a whole, complete mess and I was like goodness, what is this? So yeah, so, uh, perform your due diligence, um, conduct your research on each property, including title searches, zoning laws, um, uh, potential liens, uh, even even to this is huge. Also, being a real estate agent, make sure you know where the property line is at, because sometimes that property line you may think that's the property line it could be something else. It could be either wider or it could be shorter. So that's a good way of finding out, like, make sure you know exactly where the property lines are at.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you got to know where your boundaries are at. You got to know where the property ends, where it begins Very important. Got to do due diligence, you know, making sure when you go through these properties, checking out for zoning, making sure to see what other opportunities you can be able to make best use of the property. You want to do all that. You want to estimate the repairs, which is our next one.

Speaker 2:

You know people that are trying to wholesale kind of get caught up a little bit on how to accurately try to, you know, estimate the repairs on their own versus having a contractor come out and give you a bid to give you an idea you know what I mean of what it's going to cost. So when you're first getting started, it's kind of hard to a little bit estimate repairs. So that's when you got to really sit down and you got to go to maybe a Lowe's or Home Depot and start pricing stuff and start saying, okay, well, this is what these prices are for doing drywall or repairing tile or whatever it may be. You want to get familiar with estimating repairs and that's all included with doing due diligence, performing your due diligence, your due diligence as well, looking at the property, like you said, finding out where the property lines are and going from there, yeah, and the one to the next one.

Speaker 1:

it says that the calculate the potential market value of the property after repairs are made. Says that the calculate the potential market value of the property after repairs are made. That's huge, because you just want to, you, you want to make, uh, uh, some type of profit when it, when it comes.

Speaker 1:

You want to make some type of profit, and it's a lot of it. Um, a lot of it comes to you just being knowledgeable, being around the right people. Knowledgeable, uh, they can tell you the ins and outs because, like you said, you can go to home depot, you go. A lot of it comes to you just being knowledgeable, being around the right people. Knowledgeable, they can tell you the ins and outs because, like you said, you can go to Home Depot, you go to Lowe's, you could just spend a grip of money unnecessarily when you didn't have to.

Speaker 1:

So a closed mouth doesn't get fed. You got it. You got to talk. You got to surround yourself with the people that are in the same niche as you.

Speaker 2:

And hey, from that point on, right there, everything, everything is going to go good from that point. Oh, yeah, yeah, you, just as long as you're taking it step by step, you're, you know, after repair value is very important because you got to be able to, you know, calculate what your profit is going to be after you, you know, do all your repairs, if you need to do repairs, that's a very important number to determine when you're wholesaling, like that's really important because you know you got to figure out what your profit is going to be, where your spread lies, you know as far as a wholesaler. So, really, running the numbers, which is the next one, using the wholesaling formula, everybody uses like 70%, or some people use 60 or 65, just depending where you're at. But you know, calculating what ARV, or determining, I should say, arv, and then running your numbers with whatever percentage you want to run, minus your repair costs, is going to become your MAO. So you have to know what numbers you're going to run to be accurate as possible.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a great formula right there that they use for the wholesaling formula that the ARV times 70% repair costs equals the maximum allowable offer. And then negotiating, negotiating, securing contracts. That's very huge, because now we're talking about documentation. We're talking about documentation on these properties and everything. So that's when it comes to negotiating with the sellers that have a clear understanding of their needs and present a win-win offer. You use assignment contracts, ensure that you have a solid contract that allows you to assign the property to an end buyer, and then include contingencies. Add contingencies to your contract, such as inspection periods and financing financing terms to protect yourself. These are all these. These three are all keys to help negotiating securing contracts because, when it comes down to besides buying it, you want to make sure everything that is contractual and that is dealt with in a professional manner that is contractual and that is dealt with in a professional manner.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, you want to make sure you have all your contracts straight. You want to make sure when you're negotiating with the seller that you're coming to, you're coming, both are coming to an agreeable number where it's beneficial for both parties. Yeah, never forget like any contingencies that need to be added to the contract. You want to be detailed. You want to be thorough when you're wholesaling properties, when you, when you're trying to be a wholesaler and you're going through, talking to sellers and going through these properties, you want to try to be as thorough as possible. That way no one feels like, at the end of the day, they're being cheated, you know, on the deal yes, exactly, all right.

Speaker 1:

And then the next one is a building a buyer's list, just like you're showing me. On saturday you have to buy a buyer's list and everything. A great platform for all this is prop stream. Prop stream is great at getting contact information. There's so much on it. Actually, I am working on having PropStream on the podcast to show everybody what exactly what's involved with PropStream because they are, I want to say, the best when it comes to if a person is not a, if you're not a real estate agent, even if you are a real estate agent like PropStream has so much valuable information that you can use, especially with investing. It's crazy how much that they have.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, propstream I definitely recommend. I'm sure, like all the experts, all the people that are doing wholesaling and doing other types of deals, they're using PropStream to their advantage to look up data and stuff like that. So I definitely recommend PropStream just because, like, I've used other software platforms and other databases and PropStream is really easy to use and they have a lot of good features that I've seen that other other platforms don't have, other data databases don't have. So, yeah, shout out to PropStream.

Speaker 1:

Oh, amen, amen. And then another one that comes to this building buyers list. I like that last one. It says maintain relationships regularly, update your buyer and new deals and your market trends. That's huge right there. And then it stayed, and then stayed in contact with them. You know, just maybe do a weekly call, or every two weeks a call, just just showing your presence, them hearing you, or just calling them or seeing them. It helps out a whole lot because they know that you're on board, like okay, this person is serious as to as to getting some proper helping me get some properties. This is not, it's not going to waste my time. Time is a value I can't get. I can't gain that time back.

Speaker 2:

Yep, yep. So, like you know, uh, maintain relationships. Um, they're very important. Like, uh, I was showing you, like you said, saturday I was showing you my buyers list. So I'm always trying to update that thing because, like there's always it seems like there's always every few weeks or every month or two months there's a new buyer to coming into this area, paying cash, and, um, it's important just to get their information because you want to, as a wholesaler, be able to move properties to them.

Speaker 1:

So, yes, you are, and then let's do the. When it comes to another step of it is marketing deals. Create attractive listings. The more attractive the listing is, the better, and the better that attractive listing is the more that you can get it under contract. Better that attractive listing is, the more that you can get it under contract. Right, investors, investors they love especially properties that they don't have to work much on. They can just basically flip it, yeah if it doesn't have much work to do it.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, that's, that's beautiful, that's a diamond in the rough for them yeah, those, those type of properties are wonderful because you just, you know the newer, more more likely wholesaling you're going to be dealing with sometimes work. That's even wonderful. That's even more, you know, more beautiful of the situation because, um, that, uh, that fixing flipper doesn't have to do much so you can move a nice light cosmetic fixer to a fixing flipper and it'll love you.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yes, yeah, and then. And then I'll be like then then what are you doing? You just growing a relationship right there, you're growing a relationship right there, you're growing a relationship right there. Now they're like okay, I can depend on this person. He knows what I'm looking for. And if he doesn't, on certain ones, then I can just tell him like hey, this is what I'm looking for at this time period. So yeah, that relationship works out, it'll work out great for both parts. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And then the next one Because I know you come across someone you're like closing the deal. Then they just want to act up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, you see that a lot. You know you've got to. You've got to get to the table first and make sure everything's straight before you get too happy.

Speaker 1:

Yes, this is closing the deal. Coordinate with all parties. Work closely with the seller, the buyer and title company to ensure a smooth closing process. It says double-check paperwork. Ensure all contracts and legal documents are correctly filled out and signed correct. Collect your fee upon successful closing. Collect your assignment fee from the end buyer. All those you want to make sure, everything you want to make sure those.

Speaker 1:

I want to make sure those i's are dotted and those t's are crossed at the time, like, say, if at the very beginning, if you're looking for something, and if they look at and if you get into contract, because the way that you have the wholesale contracts, I would even say that to this point where I mean it's contractual, but I even haven't notarized, because having a notarized that's a that's, that's a public officer Like you got to think just just anything in real estate has to be notarized. Without a notarization, that real estate process doesn't happen, it doesn't close without a notary. So yeah, if, if you want, if you, if you feel that you might set, that you might need, like you know, I'm gonna get this notarized. So be it as long as you feel comfortable with it. But make sure you have a good communication with the, with the, with the seller, the buyer, the title company, because the title company holds everything.

Speaker 1:

And that's a good place to find out, especially with the title company, is to find out also, too, with the, with the property lines. That's another, that's another, that's a. They're a great resource to find out, like, okay, where's my property line? I just want to make sure this is accurate and then you find out if it's just on point, if it's too small or it's too small or it's it's too big. So they have all that. They have each for each, each parcel in real estate the title companies has basically, I call it the whole, they have the whole DNA of that property.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they do, like you want to be able to. You just basically verify. You know you want to verify all information that you've gathered about it, that you found online, that you, you know, gotten through an email, all the square footage, your property line zoning, what is the property zone, just everything. You just kind of want to be detailed that way. You know, you know what you're getting into, you know, you know what kind of property you have and, as a wholesaler, you know just that basic information you're supposed to have anyway. You know, so you can be able to provide it for the investor because they might ask those questions. You know how big is the lot size and what's the square footage, of course, of the structure. And you know just, just, yeah, you got to have everything together.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and then the more you have it, the more comfortable you'll be too, so you don't have to dig around and do more research. Right, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so the four tips of wholesaling in a competitive market. It breaks it down to a smaller section Stay educated, be flexible, leverage technology, provide value. You do these four steps, you can be definitely productive in wholesaling. Because I wanted to bring this topic out, because this is this is this is your, this is your niche, right here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah this is, yeah, this is what I'm working on. I'm eventually going to be venturing to other strategies, of course, because I want to be well rounded. But yeah, this starts with wholesaling because, you know, brand new trying to get in, trying to get deals done, trying to raise capital to be able to do other deals done, trying to raise capital to be able to do other deals and, you know, just utilize other creative financing strategies. So I'm just trying to really nail down wholesaling and be able to hopefully have this on autopilot, you know once I get you know the process down on how it goes. So, yeah, definitely, and the thing about the thing about wholesaling too, is autopilot. You know, once I get you know the process down on how it goes.

Speaker 1:

So, yeah, definitely. And the thing about the thing about wholesaling, too, is it takes zero dollars. A lot of people think it takes, uh, it takes. When it comes to uh and wholesaling, it takes. It takes a lot of money, it takes zero dollars. You get that right property, get it under contract. You just you like it's like you said, you're leveraging, you're leveraging yourself right now, and then you just keep on going. You just keep on pushing, then you'll get something better, then get something better, then get some bad, and it just you just keep on going, keep on going up in steps yeah, utilizing the free resources when you're wholesaling is just crucial because people don't have a lot of money to start out in business, in any business.

Speaker 2:

So when you're doing this from home, you're probably going to spend a few dollars, but you don't have to spend startup costs like you would. A normal business no-transcript the process yeah, you're going to need like 10 bucks, a hundred bucks to hold it for, you know, to bind the contract and whatnot. You know good faith deposit type of thing. So other than that, yeah, you're right man, you don't really need any money. You could just start looking and start utilizing, if you can, free resources and stuff to look up information, if you can. Sometimes it's kind of hard, but if you can do public records when you're starting, then you can find certain information. It's kind of hard to find updated phone numbers, so you might have to pay or skip trace sometimes and pay for that service. But other than that, if you can utilize free resources that are around you, you can get a deal done. You could definitely get a deal done.

Speaker 1:

Oh yes, nice yes. From the Property Relief LLC, mr Wholesale himself. Oh yes, nice yes. From the property relief llc.

Speaker 2:

Mr wholesale himself I'm trying to get this wholesale process down so I can move on to bigger and better and other strategies, because I want to learn all of them. But I gotta figure out this wholesale thing down or get this wholesale uh process down so you know, be able to utilize it as much as possible. Everybody's got their own opinion about where you should start in real estate. Most people say wholesaling because, like normally, people get involved in wholesaling first. From what I hear in researching, you know, in my real estate journey, so you know why not just start off there. Um, you know, low budget status right now we have no budget, so we got a wholesale.

Speaker 1:

All right, all right, and then what's the best way for everybody to get in touch with you then?

Speaker 2:

Okay, so, once again, property relief LLC, that's the company. My email is propertyreliefbiz at gmailcom. If you want to text me or reach out and call me, if you're watching the video, it's 530-366-2116. Send me a text, send me a call if you want to six, send me a text. Send me a call If you want to, um, we can talk about it. If you've got a deal you want to, you know, link up and maybe do a transaction, we can do that. So, yeah, just uh, get at me um, instagram to property relief LLC on Instagram.

Speaker 1:

So All right, yeah, and especially in a direction you live in. There's tons and tons of homes that can be dealt with, especially coming with wholesaling. There's a lot of properties right there where you're around.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, this is a good little area. It's, you know, a little bit tapped, but not really tapped.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:

But there's good. There's good deals out here. There's a good group of investors and flippers out here, so just need to be able to be patient and work on deal flow and get deals going, because that's what it's about to getting your first deal going and then being able to have deal flow come in, because you just don't want to stop after that first deal closes.

Speaker 1:

Got to have something else lined up. Exactly right, All right then, world.

Speaker 2:

Mr Got to have something else lined up, exactly Right.

Speaker 1:

All right then world Until next time.

Speaker 2:

Until next time.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yes, indeed, and world, we're about to have a blessed week coming up and we'll see you next week. All right, peace.

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